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I would not expect any large revelations from the cold war era. What if someone just eats up a report they dont want to leak or like in the 7 World Trade Center i.ex
I dont think CIA,FBI would like to go on public that yeah secret papers have blown up or is out in the streets, oh and btw they used to give paychecks to the beard guys who did it ;-)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/11/05/archive/ main316911.shtml

"Loss of structural integrity was likely a result of weakening caused by fires on the 5th to 7th floors.
The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

Anyway: digitally created and signed documents and stored that way could in the future be a problem if haxored, it could create some histeria under cirtain scenarios. imagine the boredom to use those type machines.

The main challenge in bringing a building down is controlling which way it falls. Ideally, a blasting crew will be able to tumble the building over on one side, into a parking lot or other open area. This sort of blast is the easiest to execute, and it is generally the safest way to go. Tipping a building over is something like felling a tree. To topple the building to the north, the blasters detonate explosives on the north side of the building first, in the same way you would chop into a tree from the north side if you wanted it to fall in that direction. Blasters may also secure steel cables to support columns in the building, so that they are pulled a certain way as they crumble.

Sometimes, though, a building is surrounded by structures that must be preserved. In this case, the blasters proceed with a true implosion, demolishing the building so that it collapses straight down into its own footprint (the total area at the base of the building). This feat requires such skill that only a handful of demolition companies in the world will attempt it.

Sometimes smart people do stupid things. You can look at the case of Richard Illes, who was a heart surgeon. He was arrested and convicted of killing his wife, the motive being that they were in the middle of a messy divorce. When police searched his house, he had on his bedstand "They Wrote Their Own Sentences. The FBI Handwriting Analysis Book." (Handwritten anonymous letters were later received by the police trying to implicate a coworker as the perpetrator.) He also used a rare gun in the murder that he had inherited from a relative. And finally, when they eventually arrested him, he had a manuscript for a book about the murder on his computer. The book was written from the killer's point of view.

You forgot this one:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/1/24 /213349.shtml

Slashing tires to keep people from voting.

Or John Murtha:

http://news.netscape.com/story/2006/11/15/democrat ic-culture-of-corruption-john-murtha-bribe-video

Or William Jefferson:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/21/jefferson.s earch/

Or Teddy Kennedy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick

Or "Voted for the War before I voted against it" :

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/29/politics /main646435.shtml

Or Hiz Honor,Richard Daley:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Daley

Or Boss Tweed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_Tweed

Please, politicians by default are dishonest, not just Republicans. So just remember who's dog food you are eating when shilling for one side or the other.

"A spam-free world by 2006? That's what Microsoft Corp. chairman Bill Gates is promising."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/24/tech/mai n595595.shtml

Microsoft could have solved Spam by leveraging their monopoly for good (instead of evil), but they didn't, and show no signs of doing so.

>See you lose credibility when you complain Bush condoned use of torture. College fraternities do worse

I suppose I should be thankful that he spelled "lose" correctly...

'The prisoner died in a position known as "Palestinian hanging" '.
'When the men lowered Jamadi to the floor, Frost told investigators, "blood came gushing out of his nose and mouth, as if a faucet had been turned on." .

Yes, it's officially condoned: "...the decision to deport Arar was made at the highest levels of the U.S. justice department, with a special removal order signed by John Ashcroft's former deputy, Larry Thompson." "Deported", you see, to Syria. The Syrian torture the US knowingly sent him to made him say later "I forgot every moment that I enjoyed in my life".

The Canadian authorities have acknowledged that Arar had no connection to any terrorist group or activity.

We could have had a large off shore wind farm if Ted Kennedy hadn't killed it because of nimby. What a blow hard, we could have powered a few homes off of him alone!

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04 /27/kennedy_faces_fight_on_cape_wind/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/26/sunday/m ain560595.shtml
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion /oped/articles/2006/05/07/kennedy_doesnt_play_by_t he_rules/

The renal failure wont be changed by this. It's the result of actual physical damage to the kidneys, something that we have no cure for yet (beyond transplant), and are unlikely ever to unless we figure out a way to grow new ones.

Cloning?

The only thing this would help is reducing the progress of renal failure in those who are not end stage (i.e. those not on dialysis).

I guess we'd have to ask Art Buchwald about how accurate such diagnosis is...http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/12/12/sun day/main2251487.shtml

60 Minutes covered this about two years ago. It's a good segment if you can find the video.

So what? It will be neither the first nor the last mass extinction. Nature has recovered everytime, and the Earth has been shaken quite a few times.

We(Humans) have become the caretakers of the world environment through our technology and population growth. I believe it even says something about this in the bible. If we don't care about our environment - in which we live - than may we go extinct as well, since we will deserve nothing less.
Salt-Water Fish Extinction Seen By 2048 Seafood May Be Gone by 2048

If anything, it seems that biological diversity has been increasing except for some minor human-induced damage in the last two or three centuries.

Unless you're talking about the increase of invasive species, i have no idea where you're getting this.

We can't be sentimental about nature.

How irritating ;/

It isn't a person,

It supports the life around us.

and humans are different from animals

Not so different...many examples of this can be seen on the daily news.

For Islamists, the imperative to veil women justifies almost any means. Sometimes they try to buy off resistance. Some French Muslim families, for instance, are paid 500 euros (around $600) per quarter by extremist Muslim organizations just to have their daughters wear the hijab. This has also happened in the United States. Indeed, the famous and brave Syrian-American psychiatrist Wafa Sultan recently told the Jerusalem Post that after she moved to the United States in 1991, Saudis offered her $1,500 a month to cover her head and attend a mosque.

But what Islamists use most is intimidation. A survey conducted in France in May 2003 found that 77 percent of girls wearing the hijab said they did so because of physical threats from Islamist groups. A series in the newspaper Libération in 2003 documented how Muslim women and girls in France who refuse to wear the hijab are insulted, rejected, and often physically threatened by Muslim males. One of the teenage girls interviewed said, "Every day, bearded men come to me and advise me strongly on wearing the veil. It is a war. For now, there are no dead, but there are looks and words that do kill."

France's Toll of Destruction

Last night probably another hundred cars were set ablaze - as will be the case tonight, tomorrow night, and the following ones. Before large-scale rioting started on 27 October the police had already registered 30,000 car-becues this year - an average of, indeed, 100 a day. What a boost this must be to the French automobile industry. In the same period there were 3,800 attacks on police officers - a "normal" non-riot average of almost 13 a day.

The 751 No-Go Zones of France

They go by the euphemistic term Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive Urban Zones, with the even more antiseptic acronym ZUS, and there are 751 of them as of last count. They are convienently listed on one long webpage, complete with street demarcations and map delineations.

What are they? Those places in France that the French state does not control. They range from two zones in the medieval town of Carcassone to twelve in the heavily Muslim town of Marseilles, with hardly a town in France lacking in its ZUS. The ZUS came into existence in late 1996 and according to a 2004 estimate, nearly 5 million people live in them.

Comment: A more precise name for these zones would be Dar al-Islam, the place where Muslims rule. (November 14, 2006)

Nov. 28, 2006 update: For an insight into how bad things are, the police in Lyons demonstrated on Nov. 9, denouncing "violence against the forces of order." Things have reached a pretty sad state when the police have to demonstrate in the streets against the criminals.

The New French Revolution

They rule gangland style, combined with the male-dominated traditions of the Arab countries they came from. It's gotten so bad that, today, most of the young women only feel safe if they are covered up, or if they stay at home. Girls who want to look just like other French girls are considered provocative, asking for trouble......

"I was gang raped by three people I knew, and I couldn't say anything, because in my culture, your family is dishonored if you lose your virginity," says Bellil. "So I kept quiet, and the rapes continued. The next time, I was pulled off a commuter train and no one lifted a finger to help me. ...Everybody turned their head awa

Crap, I forgot to include the casualty numbers. Well, we know that 3000 or so died in the WTC. We know that one has died in abortion clinic bombings since 2000 (source), 168 died in OK City (source) and 12 died at Columbine (source). This totals 181, but we'll skew the numbers in your favor and say 200.

If you want to factor these numbers in to further my case, that's fine with me. By my quick math, that means that Muzzie terrorists have killed 150 people to every person killed by a Whitie, while only having .01 the numbers of whities.

So until Whities kill a lot more Americans in terrorist acts, I think that profiling is a good idea based on simple probability.

Are we really exporting all of our manufacturing? I just saw this story on the Couric Broadcasting System the other night. (Note that I have trouble viewing this video with Firefox. IE seems to work better for me.) While many jobs ARE going to China and India, there are plenty of jobs (and job growth) here in the United States.

The US has:
Diebold
Cheney & Halliburton
Jack Abramoff
etc.

less access to medical treatment,
The US has a rising percentage of uninsured
because of spiraling costs

more disease,
Yeah.

higher infant mortality,
The US the second highest infant mortality rate in the modern world

lower life expectancy, and in general a much shittier life then you, and me.
Agreed

I for one do feel bad.
I do too, but not just because of worldwide inequality. I feel bad that global outsourcing is not enriching other people in other countries much. I feel bad that corporations are free to pocket vast profits, while escaping tax burdens. I feel bad that the US is sliding downwards instead of managing to pull the rest of the world up. As a resident of the US, I feel guilty that we seem to have an "I've got mine, good luck with yours" philosophy. The free market has costs.

The US has:
Diebold
Cheney & Halliburton
Jack Abramoff
etc.

less access to medical treatment,
The US has a rising percentage of uninsured
because of spiraling costs

more disease,
Yeah.

higher infant mortality,
The US the second highest infant mortality rate in the modern world

lower life expectancy, and in general a much shittier life then you, and me.
Agreed

I for one do feel bad.
I do too, but not just because of worldwide inequality. I feel bad that global outsourcing is not enriching other people in other countries much. I feel bad that corporations are free to pocket vast profits, while escaping tax burdens. I feel bad that the US is sliding downwards instead of managing to pull the rest of the world up. As a resident of the US, I feel guilty that we seem to have an "I've got mine, good luck with yours" philosophy. The free market has costs.

--Rob

Maybe the NIST folks figured they'd finally have a little protection from getting censored or worse for giving their honest analysis.

"They were all acting together for their own amusement," said Capt. Chris Graveline. "There was no justification for what they did that night."

Graveline said the group took pictures of what they were doing "so they could remember that night, so they could laugh again at these men. ... There's nothing funny about what happened at Abu Ghraib."

Harman, 27, of Lorton, Va., was the second U.S. soldier tried and convicted in the scandal.

During Tuesday's sentencing hearing, she tearfully apologized for mistreating Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib.

"As a soldier and military police officer, I failed my duties and failed my mission to protect and defend," Harman said, her voice cracking. "I not only let down the people in Iraq, but I let down every single soldier that serves today.

"My actions potentially caused an increased hatred and insurgency towards the United States, putting soldiers and civilians at greater risk," she continued. "I take full responsibility for my actions ... The decisions I made were mine and mine alone."

Several of the worst abuses photographed took place on a single day, Nov. 8.

In one of the most striking images to surface, a detainee jokingly referred to as "Gilligan" by the MPs was forced to stand on a box of food, with wires connected to his fingers, toes and penis.

Harman said she attached the wires to "Gilligan" and told him he would be electrocuted if he fell off the box.

"Why did you do this to the detainee 'Gilligan'?" a military investigator asked.

"Just playing with him," Harman said.

Also that day, MPs punished seven detainees they said were instigating a riot in a part of the prison outside Tier 1A.

The detainees were stripped and forced to the floor of the cellblock.

"Graner was placing them into position," Harman told investigators.

"How long did the human pyramid last?" an investigator asked her.

"The pyramid lasted about 15 to 20 minutes," she said.

Why shouldn't people enjoy some aspects of combat?

I find it interesting that many Slashdotters enjoy violent RPGs, yet are anti-war, and do not understand that enjoying REAL combat is obviously part of human nature.

"Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot... It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right upfront with you, I like brawling."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/03/national /main671617.shtml

Violence isn't "just fine" with everyone. Say what you will about him, but at least the guy's consistent, unlike the fundies.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251 .shtml?id=1760111n

There's a video there of Putin kissing the 5 year old boy's stomach. This started a lot of speculation and I have read that the KGB gathered video from a hotel room proving that he was from years ago. When Putin headed the KGB all these videos obviously disappeared. There is stuff about it on teh web if anyone needs to do some research. I suspect it's true.

Who put you in charge of defining who is a "Christian"? I think the radicals would also say that you are not a "true" Christian. The first poll I found in a quick search shows that a majority reject evolution.

Yeah, it's pretty silly, but you can't deny the facts. Are you saying that most people who call themselves Christians are really not? And if so, what criteria are you using for that evaluation?

Well, we know there's at least one first person shooter.

I suggest a multi-thousand dollar prize for the first hacker who can open up their servers so the N.K. citizens can see the whole web.

I can't say there is much to recommend it. It is likely that there would be no meaningful payoff that would last more than minutes. Even if you were successful in creating temporary access to a wider range of internet sites, it is likely that the few North Koreas who use the web would be too terrified to make use of it, assuming they even knew about it. Given the nature of the regime, you can assume that their secret police record, monitor, review, and act on the traffic in ways that far exceed the most lurid fantasies about the NSA. Surfing unauthorized web sites would likely constitute a punishable act, especially if an unauthorized site was visited that contained unvetted political, economic, or religious information. If you've stepped over the line in North Korea, you could easily fall prey to the "heredity rule", developed the Dear Leader's father. Under that rule, the North Korean secret police arrest and imprison three generations of a family for the misdeeds of one of them, often for life, which can be short in a North Korean "prison camp" AKA death camp.

Besides, the international incident with the paranoid, now nuclear armed, barbaric regime which is starving its people wouldn't be worth it.

If anyone still insists on it, I suggest you stay away from at least the Koreas and Japan as North Korea has a long history of kidnapping people from those countries for various reasons. Given their ties to organized crime, due to their many criminal enterprises, they could reach even further. Life there is tough even when you are useful to them.

here's something else .. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2727471.stm

and other stuff .. http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/02/15/sprj.irq .protests.europe/

You'll notice the dates on these stories... just in case your going by rewritten history.

If you want to relive February 2003, google will help you.. but the sad history is really hysteria, I myself just could not believe that my government would ignore the rest of the world, and just do what ever they wanted. I was unfortunately wrong.

There have been several attempts to develop electricity generators using the tide, such as these:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/04/business /main2153298.shtml
http://www.nature.com/news/2004/040322/full/040322 -7.html;jsessionid=E3647E0B96B907DE7AF07B7FC3B0361 4
http://www.discover.com/issues/dec-05/features/oce an-energy/
I'm skeptical of the original article's device because it apparently is from "New Scientist," which recently reported on an Amazing Antigravity Device (not that I trust Discover much these days). But the wave energy gadgets have been proven to generate electricity (11kV for the third one), and you can use that for conventional desalination. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_power .

Presumably it can't be used for cooling, though -- can't simultaneously equip the Wave Beam and the Ice Beam. 8)

As I understand it, about half the world's desal capability is located in the Middle East, mostly in Saudi Arabia, and there it's oil-powered, done by high-pressure sprays against a grating. Even in the Middle East it makes up only maybe 3% of the water supply.

Long-term, we should be looking at greatly reducing the need for freshwater by making irrigation more efficient -- it makes up about half of our demand -- and that means drip-irrigation systems and maybe gengineering of plants for salt tolerance.

How about this: http://blog.pdamerica.org/?p=346 or this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/20/politics /main1731579.shtml

Good enough?

Which is what nobody seems to get nowadays. Does anyone think that had someone else been in charge they would have brought western style democracy to Iraq?

Well, yes. I seem to remember half the fucking planet - including the Pentagon - pointing that out before the war.

And wasn't it Rumsfeld who said that he had no intention of quitting and that Bush had given him his full support and would decide if and when Rumsfeld should leave? Oh yeah, here it is.

So let's see, first we lie about the invasion of Iraq being tied to the September 11th attacks. Then we lie that Iraq was hiding weapons of mass destruction. Then we lied that Iraq was tied to Al Qaeda. Throw in that we lied about not being the world's policeman, that we wouldn't be involved in nation building, that we would hold it to the Saudis in regards to our supply of oil, that the government isn't reading people's emails or searching their homes without warrants, and now this, and you have an entire administration built on lies.

Unfortunately, even with the Democrats taking control of the House, they've already said they don't have the balls to impeach the liar so we're stuck with another two years worth of lies.

yay

You are right... the economy will stay exactly the same (strong with a shrinking deficit ) and Iraq will stay exactly the same (a mess). The difference is now the Democrats will take credit for the economy instead of talking doom-and-gloom about it. Despite running on a campaign of change in Iraq - they will blame the Executive for not being able to do anything about it. Same facts. Different spin to suit.

I've never heard that interpretation of his remarks before, so I googled for the actual quote. Turns out you're completely wrong. The only defense of his comments is that he was wearing his "Republican Fundraiser" hat when he made them, not his "Voting Machine Manufacturer" hat and, to his (slight) credit, he got out of politics after people pointed out this conflict of interest. And if you dismiss the story below because it's from known Librul Media Outlet CBS, then you're the one wearing the tinfoil hat:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/m ain632436.shtml
"...A Diebold plot to rig the elections? Where did that idea come from? The rumors began with this letter from Diebold's CEO, Wally Odell, who was moonlighting as a Republican fundraiser. In his invitation to a benefit for Bush last August, he wrote, 'I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president.'

After a public outcry, Odell announced in May that he was getting out of politics.

'Our CEO Wally O'Dell's position from a political standpoint really does not reflect at all in our equipment or the functionality of our equipment. It has nothing to do with how elections are run,' says Radke.

But Rubin says he is not accusing Diebold of rigging elections. 'I'm just saying that they could do it and that we shouldn't allow our elections to be under control of vendors when there are ways of designing voting machines such that the vendors don't have the control of them.'

On a related note, I'm surprised that no one's mentioned Missouri's ballot initiative that is to be voted on today regarding stem cell research, Amendment 2. It would protect most forms of stem cell research, including somatic nuclear cell transfer, making it the second American state to do so. According to CBS it is supported by Missourians 51 percent to 35 percent, so unless the religious right shows up in droves today (which they very well might), it will likely pass.

What does "hatred for anything republican" have to do with Diebold, unless Diebold is Republican? Shouldn't a voting machine company be politically neutral?

Welll, actually yes. They are a steadfast republican company. How else would you explain away this quote by Wally O'Dell; former Diebold CEO? A Diebold plot to rig the elections? Where did that idea come from? The rumors began with this letter from Diebold's CEO, Wally Odell, who was moonlighting as a Republican fundraiser. In his invitation to a benefit for Bush last August, he wrote, "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president." (emphasis added)

Of course this quote is often used on sites with a clear agenda. I figured that CBS (the full article can be found here) can be considered as somewhat neutral.

Get this story out of the tech sites and into the major media outlets:

Media contacts:
* Contact CNN: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/
MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339/ (viewerservices@msnbc.com letters@msnbc.com)
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CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/feedback/fb_news_for m.shtml
* Contact the DNC: 202-863-8000 http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact
* Complain to the FCC: 202-418-1440, phone; 202-418-0232, fax.
* Yell at the NRCC 202-479-7000
* 1-866-OUR VOTE and get in the database if you get this kind of harassment

In the middle of a security breach? If it's really bad, like publishing nuke secrets in Arabic on the Internet while you're inciting the terrorist world, you should "stay the course". Accuse those disclosing the breach to authorities of "emboldening the enemy" and "disclosing security procedures". Attack, attack, attack. You'll get to keep your job, though your company might go out of business, perhaps in a mushroom cloud. Then you could claim you'd been "right all along", while you burn in hell for eternity.

"And, does that mean that we're still talking about having to check sources.... and all of that old stodgy professional behavior?"

The old style media was so >good at that, right?

one federal official recently briefed on the issue says "It's devastating." If a nuclear weapon were stolen, the information "would tell the terrorists everything they need to do to get a weapon to fire."

Bullshit. Someone else apparently wants to rewrite history.

Iraq: U.N. Inspections for Weapons of Mass Destruction (Updated October 7, 2003) (pdf format) Note particularly that while the inspections were taking place, and cooperation was good, the ONLY areas of contention were some ambiguities in Iraqi documents as far what was listed and what was shown.

Further, here is what ELBaradei is quoted as saying:

Director General ElBaradei reported that inspections since November 2002 have identified no prohibited nuclear activities but urged states to continue to provide intelligence information. ElBaradei specifically suggested that the inspection process "should be allowed to run its natural course" and that credible assurances could be provided within the next few months.

Inspector's Call U.S. Tips 'Garbage'

Iraq was wasn't justified, U.N. weapons experts say (note the lies that Dick Cheney perpetuated)

UN Inspection in Iraq Was No Sham

Shall I continue or would you like to keep repeating lies?

There is ample evidence of a) the ease in which Diebold voting machines can be patched and b) votes being switched to Republican candidates. Diebolds CEO vowed to deliver the 2004 presidential election to Mr. Bush.

Concerns are already mounting in Texas and Arkansas that votes are being flipped in early 2006 voting.

It's not a conspiracy when so many municipalities conclude that Diebold machines are not fit for elections.

They already got this grandma, the evil bastards!

sort of like how the 9/11 World Trade Center conspiracy theories have been debunked so many times, yet many people continue to believe they were controlled demolitions

Really? Someone has PROVEN that the buildings (especially including WTC7) could NOT have come down by controlled demolition? I must've missed that. (BTW, if you claim "you can't prove a negative" I will ask how you can claim this is debunked then?) It is also a fact that there have been no successful (published) models demonstrating the plausibility of the "official" collapse theory. (Oh wait, NIST claims to have computer models. For some reason we can't see them). The "pancake collapse" theory is a total joke, even the latest NIST report is backpedalling and admits that the pancake theory is unsupportable ("NIST's findings do not support the "pancake theory" of collapse", Source). So what are we to make of all the "experts" supporting the pancake collapse for the last five years?

But you know what? The whole "controlled demo" angle is a trap (Mike Ruppert, former NARC, has been saying this since 2001). The physical evidence was deliberately (and illegally) destroyed, making a conclusive forensic study impossible, so these arguments are doomed to go in circles endlessly.

But there's a lot of other stuff we can look at...

• Fact: Multiple top-secret wargames were being run on 9/11 which eerily mirrored (read: to an extent impossible to ascribe to chance) the hijackings of the day (same thing happened for London's 7/7, lookup "Ludicrous Diversion" video), which prevented an adequate military response due to confusion and diverted fighter resources. The existence of these wargames has been confirmed by Richard Clarke, Gen Richard Myers, and more recently by Sgt Lauro Chavez who was an eyewitness at CENTCOM that day.
• Fact: The finance trail for 9/11 leads to the Pakistani ISI, which is practically a branch of the CIA. Guess who trained and financed Osama and his mujahadeen against the Soviets in the 80's?
• Fact: There was extensive insider trading preceding 9/11, which has been shown to have ties to the CIA.
• Fact: The Secret Service allowed the President to remain in a public, indefensible location for 26 minutes after the 2nd plane had crashed and it was obvious the country was under co-ordinated attack. This indicates either mind-blowing incompetance at their primary job function, or inside knowledge that Bush wasn't really in danger.
• Fact: Bush and Co. actively tried to prevent a 9/11 investigation, then tried to get HENRY FUCKING KISSINGER to lead it, then made Philip "I Wrote a Book With Condi Rice" Zelikow the Executive Director (the guy most responsible for the final shape of the report), then completely underfunded the commission.
• Fact: John O'Neil, former deputy director of FBI, said "The main obstacles to investigate Islamic terrorism were US oil corporate interests, and the role played by Saudi Arabia in it"

It doesn't take a genius, and you don't even have to look at any of the (admittedly, highly speculative and often flawed) "controlled demo" or "no plane" theories.

It amazes me the number of people who recognize that the US is sliding towards fascism, but refuse to believe that the govt pulled off its own Reichstag. History is filled with false flag ops, look at the Gulf of Tonkin incident as one example. And spare me the tired "1000's would've had to know about this, why has nobody spoken up?". Military black-ops are compartmentalized for a reason, only key people at the top see the real picture. Actual whistleblowers (eg, Sibel Edmonds) are systematically marginalized; the MSM is no longer a free press (now ranked 53rd in the world!).

The govt. either knew this was coming and let it, or was actively involved in executing it, and they have d

I can understand why we'd want to go to Mars, but why try to scrounge up existing resources to get to the Moon? Sure, saving $35 Billion sounds great, but that's $35 Billion out of an estimated $108 Billion, which really means $200 Billion. The first time we went, we gained an unprecedented amount of technical knowledge, global press, and renewed patriotism from our people. The second time, we're planning on reusing parts to duplicate what's already been done. Who's going to care? And who's going to benefit other than the defense contractors?

This whole thing feels like when my wife comes home and says "look, I just saved $30 on this new pair of shoes" ... yeah, but you still spent $120 to make an addition to your 27 pair collection.

Chavez is considerably worse than just "not a saint". And comparing him to an elected President of the US is somewhat absurd. Anyone who thinks life in Venezuela under Chavez would be nicer than life in the United States under Bush should put their money where their mouth is and move there.

60 Minutes did a great segment about the the No Fly list (titled "Unlikely Terrorists On No Fly List") which aired 2006-10-08.
Great piece and it is pretty much guaranteed that you'll feel the watch lists are a joke (or a bigger joke) after you watch it.

It's on their annoyingly bad website. These links should work.
Video
Article

And "Security Theater" is an excellent way to describe the "security" measures that have been enacted over the past few years.

60 Minutes did a great segment about the the No Fly list (titled "Unlikely Terrorists On No Fly List") which aired 2006-10-08.
Great piece and it is pretty much guaranteed that you'll feel the watch lists are a joke (or a bigger joke) after you watch it.

It's on their annoyingly bad website. These links should work.
Video
Article

And "Security Theater" is an excellent way to describe the "security" measures that have been enacted over the past few years.

Counting all the innocent Muslims killed in the US and around the world since 9/11, well that would be a bit trickier.

But hey, they hate you for your freedom, ain't that right.

When the Governor of California isn't allowed to vote because of a voting machine cockup where 'test data' was still in the system and no one thinks, "Hey, what other bogus data is in there?" I pretty much give up hope...

These days, however, we have good old Johnny Howard getting up close and personal with Shrub and Blair, pi**ing everybody off and making us almost as big a target as all the other Iraq invaders. Nice one Johnny.

Do you have any ideas about what sort of thing might have caused this? Has it been going on since the 2003 Iraq Invasion? Is it an on-going problem in Australian society? Any idea what the grievance is?

Maybe New Zealand is a refuge from the trouble you see in Australia.

. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_comp any.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/m ain632436.shtml
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004 /03/03_200.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitraki s/031004fitrakis.html

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=New s&file=article&sid=26
http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx
http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.ph p

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.

http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.ht m
http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel 27.html

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.

http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/ 042804landes.html

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates /pfindex.html

10. Diebol

From TFS:

So, as we begin our discussion, then begin with that simple reminder: it's all of us who own the airwaves.

A quaint sentiment, indeed, that the private citizen is still sovereign; I'm afraid, however, that the Bolshevization of North America is well underway, and that more violent notions will be required to reverse it.

The Bolshevization of North America consists above all in:

1. the centralization of media, agitation and propaganda;
2. ubiquitous surveillance;
3. the nanny state.

Eminent domain, if anything, should prove how highly our gubernatores esteem “ownership.*”

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* Quod autem vide: DRM and fair use.