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You seem hung up on the choice of a binary example - an example chosen to clearly expose the bad logic at work. Saying its "averages" does not negate the underlying assumption that biology makes genders more suitable for different roles.

Over half the country is female - that's a HUGE pool to "statistically" pull from. Google employs ~75,000 people, but only 17% of engineers and 21% of upper management are female. Your argument rests on the assumption that out of the 100+ million working age women, there aren't ~100 or so suitable women to make it to upper management? Really? Come on!

He might not have argued that point, but all of the mainstream media reports are summarizing his argument as "not biologically fit" for tech roles.

Here is an example from a story on CNN about first amendment rights:
"Google reportedly fired a male engineer who, in a memo, argued women are not biologically fit for tech roles."
Source

implying that in his view there is no sexism that needs to be corrected for

In his (and mine) view, there is no evidence of sexism — certainly not on the scale, that could possibly justify the scale of the "corrective" measures.

It might exist, it probably does, but the efforts to "correct for it" are no better, and decidedly unfair. You do not "correct for" rape by raping somebody else. Though some may see "justice" in the rapist himself being raped (in prison), raping an unrelated party (or even a related one — such as his sister) is completely unacceptable to most people.

Such efforts to forcibly "correct" for *ism — even if the *ism were real, which remains entirely unproven — are bogus to the extreme. Yes, maybe, it would be nice, if every minority were equally represented in every field and walk of life. But deliberate efforts to that effect is like painting the grass green — fake, stupid, and ineffective.

Uhh, that's a 25% GROSS margin. The profit margin of TSLA is currently -12.06%. Negative. Tesla does not make a profit today, nor has it in the past.

Snapchat lost over $500 million in 2016, and was even arrogant enough to declare in their IPO that they haven't made a profit, and may never make a profit. Yet they're worth billions.

Your talk of "profits" and financial common sense has no place in 21st century business. Narcissism, fake news, and hype are the new currency.

Yeah yeah aggressive asshole male bosses are hugely popular with everyone.

Why don't ask these ladies what it is like working in the I.T. industry before making a generalization?

I think if slashdotters going crazy should hear the other argument before going on how evil Google is?

Uhh, that's a 25% GROSS margin. The profit margin of TSLA is currently -12.06%. Negative. Tesla does not make a profit today, nor has it in the past.

Anyone who qualifies for the subsidy can get it. It's just that there are very few companies in that space, which is why there's subsidies there in the first place, to help lower the barrier to entry.

I didn't skim the article, but did they mention that Telsa repaid a half-billion dollar loan from the Government 9 years early, in 2013?

http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/2...

I guess if the article does mention it, it'll grump about the fact that the government didn't get all the interest it was entitled to over the course of the loan......

Seems the recruiting season for Miss Dark Web just started.

Chloe Ayling, UK model kidnapped for dark web auction, reveals ordeal

Seattle Misery: Together with Microsoft and bad city management, Seattle is a miserable place:

Traffic: Seattle one of the worst U.S. cities for traffic congestion, tied with NYC (March 31, 2015) Quote: "An additional 23 minutes a day spent in traffic may not sound like much, but when it adds up over a year it becomes 89 hours." (Whoever wrote that must be accustomed to Seattle misery. An additional 23 minutes a day spent in traffic sounds HORRIBLE.)

Slow internet: Many areas of Seattle have poor internet connections. See the article, These places have the slowest Internet in the country. (June 25, 2015) Quote: "... Seattle ... CenturyLink (CTL) customers trying to access particular sites from 9 p.m. to 10 p.m. will have unbearably slow speeds."

Amazon: Worse than Wal-Mart: Amazon's sick brutality and secret history of ruthlessly intimidating workers (February 23, 2014)

Amazon: Inside Amazon: Wrestling Big Ideas in a Bruising Workplace (August 15, 2015) Quote: "The company is conducting an experiment in how far it can push white-collar workers..."

Amazon: Amazon Under Fire Over Alleged Worker Abuse in Germany (February 19, 2013)

Microsoft: Microsoft Is Filled With Abusive Managers And Overworked Employees, Says Tell-All Book (May 23, 2012)

Take out California, and Hillary lost the popular election too.

Even distribute the people of California throughout the country, and Hillary wins a dozen more states AND the popular vote.

Take out Texas, and Hillary wins the popular vote and the electoral college.

But seriously, why you suggest doing something STUPID like that?

At least the people pointing out that moving *three* counties in certain states are making a point about the arbitrary nature of the electoral college. You're just trying to flap your gums and saying something that lets you praise Trump.

Republican vote is suppressed in California in national elections because there is no point.

Oh no, with a turnout under 60% nationwide!

In any event, Trump won the votes that mattered.

And yet we're talking about something else. The thing the above poster went on about. Go read it.

Funny how, prior to the election - when it was thought that Trump might lose the Electoral College but "win" the popular vote, Democrats were all about respecting the outcome, but when the opposite happened, they think it suddenly de-legitimizes Trump.

No, they were about respecting the integrity of the election process since Trump was probably crazy enough to start a revolution, he called for that before.

But sorry, the people opposed to the electoral college are on RECORD before the recent election, making it pointless to try to claim hypocrisy. Not to mention the House malapportionment, the gerrymandering, and more.

Now I could wish Hillary showed some interest in that, but whatever, she's totally ignored it for decades already.

It will be *really* interesting to see what the Voting Commission turns up.

A lot of people think there has been a dramatic and intentional under counting of the numbers of foreign nationals illegally voting in Presidential elections.

Sure man, and the Republican Governors, Secretaries of State, Attorneys General, Legislators and Elections Clerks have completely missed it. And all of the elections are completely invalid. Good luck with that one.

Every claim he made in the above post was true.

Nope, in fact they were quite refutable. Not only that, you do realize it was trying to defend another post, with yet more falsehoods, don't you?

If you can't see that the Republicans cleaned house this election, you are mathematically challenged.

Unlike you, I can pay attention to the data, not just make the conclusions I want to believe are true, so recognizing that turnout was down, the actual numbers were relatively close, and only the distorting effect of gerrymandering and malappoirtionment misleads certain people into thinking that there's actually a substantial gap.

The "more people voted for Clinton" argument only shows your ignorance of our election system.

The argument, in case you don't remember, was regarding the American people, thus your denial of that factor shows your ignorance of the conversation. We're not talking about the electoral system. We never were. We're talking about something else. Your defensive deflection underscores the weakness of your argument, because you are desperately trying to evade the rebuttal of the original point being made.

Either that, or you are just innocently confused and mistaken. I doubt it.

I'm sure Trump's average golf score is lower than Hillary's but if Trump lost the election you wouldn't see me bringing his golf score up. You care to know why? Because both golf scores and number of votes mean fuck all in our election.

Indeed, I don't care how he scores on the Golf Course. I do, however, care that he rushes off to the Golf Course at the cost of millions of dollars, even after proclaiming that he wouldn't do that, nosiree, he'd stay on the job.

Of course, if he had lost the election, he'd be screaming tirades to get attention, but at least it'd be on his own dime.

The only thing that matters is electoral votes and Trump is better at scooping those up.

No, that doesn't really matter in this conversation, we were actually discussing something else in this post and you're merely trying to derail the conversation since factually this defense was mistaken, as pointed out already.

Cry about the game all you want but both parties knew the rules to the game before election day. If you can't understand this, please stick to spreading cream on your sore butt hole and bugger off with the "Hillary had more votes" line.

Cry about the electoral college all you want, but the rules of that broken, flawed, system, were known to be so long before election day in 2016. In fact, you might review a little history instead of trying to emulate a certain fool who can't even admit he lost the popular vote but has to proclaim without evidence, that the election system was broken enough to allow millions of illegal votes.

Which, of course, would invalidate his election, as well as the thousands of others on that day, but do you think he thinks about that? He still lies about a landslide.

Sorry, you lost again

Would that also be like the claims by the media, DNC and so on that Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton were just talking about grandkids?

You mean the hysterical screaming by the right-wing media, RNC and Trump that there was a secret conspiracy on the airport tarmac? You went on for weeks about it. Weeks on end.

Then you ended up attacking an innocent pizza parlor.

Or is it just a case that the FBI lied, the DNC and Obama administration covered it up, and the media directly worked with both to try and bury the story.

You mean the story that you were screaming over for weeks, if not months, that you, and the GOP and House Republicans kept trying to fan into a fire, desperate that we believe all their smoke?

But blow as hard as you could, it never happened. Never will either, and you know it.

That's what burns you the most.

Enjoy these FOIA documents, because the whole gigantic clusterfuck of collusion, lies, and complete bullshit from the previous administration and DNC is coming home. You can read the summarized version including the emails here if you don't want to read the ACLJ's stuff. Enjoy the part about the Washington Post wanting to bury the story.

Enjoy how Republicans admitted they faked a scandal. Go read their actual report nterview notes - ... where they desperately tried to claim something bad, but ended up with nothing.. Except in their own minds, where they proclaimed triumph over doing nothing.

Or we can look at Michael Flynn, Paul Manaforte, or Donald Jr. Himself. Now there is some meat. Or Trump's un-independent business dealings.

That isn't even touching on the stuff uncovered by Judicial Watch.

Ah, the famed blind Judicial Watch. Did they ever find Judge Roy Moore? I heard he killed Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory with the Candlestick. Why don't you just stop? But wait, I remember you lying with James O'Keefe videos and about Alberta's power grid. Yes, I remember you falsely claimed one group was responsible for it to one purpose, when it was actually the prior government for another.

What is it with you, can you just not resist the urge to lie?

Donald Trump seems to have that illness too. Who lies about the boy scouts? Oh wait, after his speech, he had no choice.

No, see, you don't understand. Foreign sources trying to influence our election by exposing the truth is fake news. Domestic sources trying to do so by blatant lying is perfectly acceptable and should be commended (as long as they try to influence in the right direction; otherwise you deserve to be targeted with the full force of the Federal Government).

North Korea shoots off new USA hitting Missle

The USA test anti-missile weapon July 30 http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/30/...

China test out anti-satellite weapon Aug 2 http://freebeacon.com/national...

Now this...

The Headlines;

Thieves Who Stole Cobalt-60 in Mexico Are Likely Dead Or Dying
Mexican Cobalt-60 robbers are DEAD MEN, say authorities
Mexican cobalt-60 thieves will soon die of radiation exposure
Stolen cobalt-60 found in Mexico; thieves may be doomed

The Reality; All were released from the hospital, with only one showing some exposure effects. None is likely to have any long term health issues.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/06/...

Of course when I argued at the time that the fears were overblown right here on /., the same old fear mongers simply ignored and posted their same old FUD.

You act like police haven't used a robot to hand deliver bomb to kill a civilian causing then grief (Dallas).

I'm sorry, calling a sniper attack 'grief' is just a tiny bit dis-honest.

The Dallas sniper that was 'blowed-up' by a robot killed five officers - that's a bit worse than 'grief'.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/...

The suicide rate among girls between the ages of 15 and 19 reached an all-time high in 2015 for the 40-year period beginning in 1975, new government data show.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/03/...

Allegedly created Kronos. I'd like to see the actual indictment, so hopefully that will be up soon. http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/0...

Oh.. I thought you meant the other - like Kronos.com - that's even more wretched than PC malware.

Allegedly created Kronos. I'd like to see the actual indictment, so hopefully that will be up soon. http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/0...

"... critics of Mao lose their jobs" (January 18, 2017)
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01...
"... For Blasphemous Facebook Comments In Pakistan" (June 13, 2017)
https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...
Social media is getting interesting around the world. The SJW are busy banning history.

        http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/0...

Man talk of the wrong link, the first paste tried to take one to facebook Correct link: http://www.investopedia.com/as...

        "At the beginning of the 1980s, only one of the five WPPSS plants was nearing completion. By this time, nuclear power had been reexamined and was found to not be as clean as was originally thought. Some cities boycotted nuclear power from the plants before the facilities were even up and running. The cost overruns reached the point where more than $24 billion would be required to complete the work, but recouping funds would be a tricky matter because of less-than-promising sales. Construction halted on all but the near-completed second plant; the first plant was once again being redesigned. WPPSS was forced to default on $2.25 billion worth of municipal bonds."

        http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/0...

I'm glad Tim Cook is trying to protect the environment, and that he's trying to avoid using conflict minerals. But I wish he'd stop making things in China, as long as China's government was so repressive. I also wish he wouldn't invest in Chinese companies, or build a "new research and development center" there.

Suppose Xi Jinping repressed only people of a certain race, or only gay people. That would be outrageous discrimination. But since Xi severely limits the freedom of all of his citizens, that's not "discrimination" - it's just "unfortunate". However, it's not unfortunate enough to stop doing business there. (I'm talking about all American companies that do business there, not just Apple.)

I'm very glad to read about the Apple-related manufacturing plants that will be built in India and the US. I hope this is the start of a trend away from manufacturing in China.

Re "leaks came internally?"
""Perhaps one day the source or sources will step forward and that might be an interesting moment some people may have egg on their faces. But to exclude certain actors is to make it easier to find out who our sources are,"" (July 27, 2016)
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07...

'The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks' (15 December 2016)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...

Think of it more as domestic US politics. Another Pentagon Papers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

What crimes? The entire The Russians! hacked the elections bullshit was completely made up to undermine the process.

Really? Are you sure about that?

But man..."smart" guns IMHO are NOT a good thing to have.

To the contrary, smart guns are a good thing to have, and the fact that they can be hacked is almost irrelevant.

The primary useful thing about smart guns is that they prevent your toddler from finding your gun and killing you, themselves, or each other. This happens all the time-- 1300 children get killed by firearms per year. (alternate source)(another story on the subject).

Even, if as you say "I mean, having a firearm that my life may depend on in a home invasion, that may not fire if I'm not wearing a watch" -- that's actually a good thing, because the thing that you should most be worried about in a home invasion is getting killed by your own gun.

Worrying that a hacker is going to break into your home, hack your gun, and then kill you with it is pretty remote.

You really want a gun that only fires when you fire it. A gun that fires when you don't want it to is not a good thing.

Yeah. Possible collusion like speaking to a lawyer that just happens to be a Russian national. Not every Russian is a KGB agent.

Wilfully blinkered, are you? In at least one case, we know exactly what was discussed (or, at least, what was intended to be discussed) because the candidate's son released and confirmed to the world what he had in mind when meeting with a Russian lawyer. Next time, pull your head out of your ass and take a look around before you decide to post a comment.

58% of Americans view drone warfare as positive even though they also feel that the US has failed to achieve its goals in Afghanistan. The US intelligence services continue to spy on all Americans. In comparisons the garbled tweets of the President are constantly analyzed by the 24 hour press.

And as far as the 'Drumpf' insult I really don't get it. So what if he is descendant from immigrants that changed their name.

You don't get the hypocrisy? The descendant of immigrants with the immigrant wife who wants to ban immigrants? It has nothing to do with the name change, just his xenophobia ... his racism (just ask the blacks who twice won judgments against Trump businesses for violating andti-discrimination law when trying to rent housing) ... his transmisogyny (btw - the joint chiefs of staff were not consulted for his latest brain fart. The head has said that policy will remain the same for the time being because they have not been consulted or even notified, and all those joint chiefs are the same ones who approved the change of policy to allow transfolks to serve openly in the first place).

The guy just can't keep his lies straight, because you have to have a modicum of intelligence to not get trapped in a web of your own lies. Intelligent people generally don't lie because they are smart enough to not get stuck in situations where they have to lie in the first place. That Trump lies every day - and gets caught every day - tells you all you need to know about how stupid he really is.

It's pretty bad when the head of the Boy Scouts has to issue an apology for Trump's address to them. Some choice quotes

And as far as the 'Drumpf' insult I really don't get it. So what if he is descendant from immigrants that changed their name.

You don't get the hypocrisy? The descendant of immigrants with the immigrant wife who wants to ban immigrants? It has nothing to do with the name change, just his xenophobia ... his racism (just ask the blacks who twice won judgments against Trump businesses for violating andti-discrimination law when trying to rent housing) ... his transmisogyny (btw - the joint chiefs of staff were not consulted for his latest brain fart. The head has said that policy will remain the same for the time being because they have not been consulted or even notified, and all those joint chiefs are the same ones who approved the change of policy to allow transfolks to serve openly in the first place).

The guy just can't keep his lies straight, because you have to have a modicum of intelligence to not get trapped in a web of your own lies. Intelligent people generally don't lie because they are smart enough to not get stuck in situations where they have to lie in the first place. That Trump lies every day - and gets caught every day - tells you all you need to know about how stupid he really is.

It's pretty bad when the head of the Boy Scouts has to issue an apology for Trump's address to them. Some choice quotes

They have been profitable for a while now: http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/2...

Actually, Amazon has been forced to collect sales taxes, even in states where it has no physical presence (at least as of April of this year). The only exceptions would be the five states e.g. Oregon) which do not charge sales tax.

Before got into office, the jobs reports incredibly wrong, he claimed. The very first one AFTER grab-them-by-the-pussy-Trump got into office, using THE EXACT SAME METHOD, was similar in numbers to the ones that were vastly wrong (according to grab-them-by-the-pussy-Trump), but he now claimed them to be right.... because they showed him creating jobs.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/10/...

If you ever wonder why people think grab-them-by-the-pussy-Trump supporters are fucking idiots... look in the mirror.

I had to check to make sure this wasn't fake news, but seems to be true; it's reported elsewhere: http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/21/...

Trump didn't collude with Russia. If he did, there would already be articles of impeachment and Pence would be the acting POTUS. Period.

First, the investigation isn't done. You don't really want to start a trial before you've gathered all the evidence you think you need. Second, impeachment is a political process, not a law enforcement process, and so it's entirely dependent on the majority of Congress deciding they want to bring charges. I think we've already seen that the Republicans want to cover this up.

As for the accusations, they're true. http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/... [cnn.com]

Umm... let's look at this article. First sentence:

Three members of the legal team known to have been hired so far by special counsel Robert Mueller to handle the Russia investigation have given political donations almost exclusively to Democrats

So *three* members. Three out of five. Three of them have given political donations "almost exclusively" to Democrats. From the use of the word "almost", we can conclude that they didn't give money exclusively to Democrats. It says later in the article that one of the three donated to Jason Chaffetz and George Allen, both Republicans.

And that's just political donations, not active campaigning. It's not terribly uncommon for people to donate some money to a political party. So what do you want? You want to disqualify anyone who ever donated money to a Democratic campaign from working on the investigation? That'd be absurd.

As for Robert Mueller himself has close ties to Comey. While is in of itself isn't a problem per se, it's highly biased.

You mean biased toward ethics and fair enforcement of the law? I'll take that bias. And if Mueller is so terrible, why was he being considered for the head of the FBI? Why was he appointed by the Deputy Attorney General. Why is it that of all the major Republican figures, only Trump has anything bad to say about Mueller?

I mean, exercise a little judgement. Think for yourself, at least a little bit.

Trump didn't collude with Russia. If he did, there would already be articles of impeachment and Pence would be the acting POTUS. Period. The GOP establishment wants nothing to do with the fallout! As for CNN and the rest of the mainstream media. Everything they've reported has either been exaggerated from supposition or outright fabricated. Essentially everything brought out against Trump in this regard is a big giant nothing burger.

As for the accusations, they're true. http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/...

As for Robert Mueller himself has close ties to Comey. While is in of itself isn't a problem per se, it's highly biased. For a high profile investigation, Mueller shouldn't even be leading this. It's more or less a conflict of interest.

I'm sure that somebody at TSA said "OMG, lithium batteries sometimes BLOW UP! We can't let TERRORISTS bring them on airplanes!"
Maybe they saw a scary news clip on CNN or something.

  http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/31/...
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/vide...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

...but then after a while, somebody said "hey, chill out. Terrorists aren't going to bring down an airplane with a laptop."

You mean the thing that is actually a discriminatory burden?

These court cases are crap and I'm sick of this argument that people are just incapable of getting an ID somehow. Everyone should have an ID. Here's a list of reasons why, provided by the NYC government:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/id/htm...

People object no matter how easy the local government makes it. People objected even when they were sending mobile voter ID vans into neighborhoods to make it easy. If those vans were giving out free phones people would have waited on lines for hours.

Voters are supposed to be adults. Treat them accordingly.

Is that Voter ID really free of charge or is it free after you pay a fee to get a certified copy of your birth certificate which is required in order to get your free ID?

You mean the part where you don't pay a fee and even with the existing ID that's available so you can get your free ID?

You mean the thing that is actually a discriminatory burden?

You can find lots of democrat and progressive talking points against free ID, using existing forms of ID which you're already required to use for everything from voting in your local primary(including entrance), to buying a pack of smokes, booze, or any type of government benefits for.

You mean the arguments that actually persuade a court of law, that the point out the discriminatory intent that is quite apparent from the actual statements of the legislators who enacted the law with the specific desire to disenfranchise voters? From legislators, who if your contentions are correct, were not lawfully elected in the first place, thus rendering their position suspect.

Can you make any valid argument where not having voter ID enhances and benefits democracy, democratic votes in any way shape or form?

Yes, I can. You forgot to ask it to be done though.

Can you make any valid argument as to how with such a huge problem with illegals, that not having voter ID benefits the state?

Yes, I can also do this. Of course, since you neglected to ask for any argument to be actually presented, so I don't feel any obligation to do so, and I won't until you address the question of what to do when the state legislature is found to have engaged in discriminatory intent in its passage of the laws. You instead resist any addressing of that concern at all, revealing at best, your own complicity in it.

Really, I don't know why you are so stupid that you go out of your way to dismiss the complaints, if you wanted to actually show your integrity, you'd condemn them even more soundly, and demand that the state ID its residents properly, rather than fail in their duty as has been consistently demonstrated.

It's kinda telling that you are though. It's like you don't know a little contrition would go a long way.

"getting help in Palm Beach during the season is almost impossible."

That's not the whole story. Here are the con artist's own words about using H-2B quotas at Mar-a-Lago:

"It's almost impossible to get help," the Republican presidential candidate told CNN last month. "And part of the reason you can't get American people is they want full time jobs."

Oh the horror. Americans wanting full-time jobs. But then, being the con artist, you don't suppose he's lying, do you? The next two paragraphs:

That is news to Tom Veenstra. He is senior director of support services at the Palm Beach County CareerSource office. It's a free service that links qualified job candidates with employers. And during the past two years, the agency has placed more than 50,000 people in jobs in Palm Beach County. Veenstra says he has no doubt he could fill Mar-a-Lago with U.S. workers.

"We have hundreds of qualified candidates for jobs like these," Veenstra told CNN. "That's what we do here. We help place local residents into jobs like those."

"Sir, please step out of the vehicle. You have 20 seconds to comply."

That's 19 second more than some people get now ... or you're an Australian woman who calls the police to report a possible sexual assault, and they kill you - and of course their body cameras are off.

We already know what their excuse will be - "I felt threatened so I shot her."

AC the "Julian Assange: 'A lot more material' coming on US elections" (July 27, 2016)
""Perhaps one day the source or sources will step forward and that might be an interesting moment some people may have egg on their faces. But to exclude certain actors is to make it easier to find out who our sources are,""
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new... (15 December 2016)
"they were handed over to him at a D.C. park by an intermediary for 'disgusted' Democratic whistleblowers"
AC its more like the Pentagon Papers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... all over again. US domestic politics.

He's already going to build a huge battery in Australia:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/0...

So he's getting there.

sure sure...
https://www.theguardian.com/us...
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11...

From the other side we have things like
https://thinkprogress.org/voti...
http://www.detroitnews.com/sto...

So there is proof that voter-fraud was happening in favor of the democrats.. But investigating that is somehow bad?

I don't support Trump or Hillary, but i think Hillary would have caused bigger issues than Trump will do..

How hard can it be to eliminate the majority of voter-fraud forever? Require voter-ID's (just make them free of charge to get for each election.) and have automatic upload of each vote, at the time of voting, to a central system. No manual counting and full tracking of who has voted. Using a chip on the ID for signing the vote would remove some of the required security from the voting-machine and a second machine could be provided where people could verify that their vote was counted and correct.

You're jumping to the end too quickly.

Blacks are convicted of crimes more often, certainly. Does that mean they're more violent, or that they get caught more? Or that they live in worse situations than whites? Are Asians particularly good at math, or do Asian parents favour certain qualities that lead to more favourable math outcomes? Are they in more stable communities so their kids have a better opportunity to study math? Is it cultural or innate? Are women actually bad at navigating, or is it that we're less likely to take little girls out to go camping and get experience at navigating? Is that your own bias, since I've always heard that women are better at navigating?

We actually have statistics that white people just aren't convicted as often for drug offences despite having similar or higher rates of use and dealing. Based on conviction data, a machine learning system would internalise the bias that blacks are more likely to have an involvement with drugs, despite that not being true. Garbage in, garbage out, right?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/e...
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/...

(Notice that those articles are from 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2014—this is not new data.)

So generalities are not necessarily based in reality. Indeed, your claim that 'Asians are good at math' is particularly bad since Asia is HUGE and there's no way everyone from that area of the world is good at math. And as a half-Chinese guy that's okay at math but much worse than my white partner, and who knows plenty of Chinese people that have no affinity for math at all, I feel like a lot of these generalities are based on folklore and a few selective tests that aren't really representative of ability.

The USA and Canada are not the bastions of equal opportunity that they purport to be, not for everyone. First Nations people in Canada and black people in the USA are consistently disadvantaged through broad government policy.

So all this to say that getting good, clean data for machine learning systems that remove human bias is incredibly difficult, since most humans are unwilling to admit their biases don't necessarily have a basis in reality, or are the wrong conclusions drawn from incomplete knowledge of data.

According to this article...

Maria Hellberg, a judge at the court, said that bankruptcy applications can be made by mailing a signed declaration of insolvency. The signature doesn't have to be notarized and there is no fee to file the application.

I suspect that this will all be changing shortly ;^)

The smashing, violence, and beatings is overwhelmingly coming from the left. That's how it's been for many years.

I have to agree.

So you feel obligated to agree with a falsehood? Interesting. Why not challenge it? Why not consider how the FBI's report on right-wing violence was suppressed?

My personal theory is that many of the violent people have convinced themselves that their political enemies are in fact bad people and "fair game" for anything.

Yes, the right goes out of its way to declare that people on the left are, in fact, bad people, and see themselves as the martyred heroes for saving themselves from the dastardly villains. That was, in fact, the whole justification of Nazi aggression.

Ever so slightly interesting that you don't mention it.

But it's hardly unknown, it's even in this movie trailer.

It goes like this: It's okay to punch a Nazi; conservatives are all Nazis... and then comes the punching.

Actually, it's conservatives who go to tortuous lengths to declare that liberals are Nazis. It's terribly amusing, and rather pathetic. Not to mention the Muslim accusations, the Communist accusations, and more.

Of course, it turns out the people dumb enough to sell out to the Russians were Trumps, but we can't be paying attention to that.

Here is a web page linking multiple articles arguing that the violence used to prevent Milo Yiannopolous from speaking at Berkeley was justified. "Violence helped ensure safety of students" is a real headline. There was also this quote: "...some white nationalists got their ***** beat." (Just like the Nazi thing above, only this time using "white nationalist". Someone who wanted to hear Milo speak --> white nationalist --> someone it's okay to send to the hospital.)

Here's a video of those white Nationalists's major work:

http://www.pbs.org/video/2365957904/

Do see how they're behaving and justifying themselves.

Even the removal of statues leads to threats of violence.

Some people can't even worship in peace.

Yet you show not the slightest concern about that.

Also, the media coverage may tend to embolden these people. The people who smash things, light things on fire, and send people to the hospital are described as "protesters". The people who wanted to hear Milo speak are described as "alt-Right extremists". I don't want to overstate the contribution of the media but I think it's a part.

The media coverage of the feigned victimization of right-wing speakers was indeed a part, people actually started to believe it was a real problem, or some sudden development, until it petered out, as comments by Milo that even the right-wing couldn't stomach came out, and he, the poster-child for the supposed martydom, became a persona non-grata. So it petered out.

Personally I think that the correct remedy for bad speech is counter-speech.

So not walking away? Not ignoring them? You don't say they're unacceptable, but why not correct?

But ok, enjoy my speech.

Violence isn't acceptable to prevent speech, even if you really disagree.

So is h

You do realize that it was a gun toting Sanders supporter that opened fire on a bunch of Republicans playing baseball. http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/...
You're holier than thou attitude is every bit as much of the problem. The Democrats put up just about the only person on the planet that could not beat Donald Trump.

I wish people would stop saying things about armed revolts and riots.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/...

Did more to help Trump than Putian ever did.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Since the US has active trade and diplomatic relations with Russia, it is extremely hard to call interacting with them treason.

Nope
Nope Nope Nope

There is no question that Russia attacked the US. The hacks on voter registration databases, not to mention the hacks on the democratic party are unquestionably acts of war. It doesn't matter whether the US government formally declared war in response, Russia attacked the US.

And not only was Trump aware of the attacks (because they were reported in the news and he started receiving classified briefings in August of 2016) but he actively encouraged the attacks and upon taking office he immediately set out to reward Russia for them upon taking office.

Treason is the exact right word.