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Re:Abuse/gaming
Here in Australia, a number of well-meaning public projects have been derailed because they had loopholes that allowed gaming of the scheme by beneficiaries, or were gamed or abused by insiders. I hope Bezos includes a lot of checks and balances in this scheme.
It's not easy when it's the politicians doing the gaming, on behalf of themselves - either through donations back to their party, or as jobs after they finally get booted out for their blatant corruption and/or incompetence.
To name a few:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/201...
https://www.news.com.au/financ...
https://www.brisbanetimes.com....
https://www.brisbanetimes.com....
https://www.computerworld.com.... -
Re:I think people just like saying "blockchain"
Not the same thing:
https://stackoverflow.com/ques...
However blockchain technology is still overhyped, because private blockchains are just inefficient databases. There's no good reason to use them where there is no trust problem between peers, so there are only a few niche industries where a blockchain would be helpful, such as digital notary services.
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Re:Ummm... Not Gonna RTFA
In China, I doubt there is. I imagine most hacking by Chinese nationals is, if not outright overseen by the Chinese government, is most certainly approved of.
Exactly. In China people are brought up believing they have a duty to help the common (Chinese) good. All the government then needs to do is put out news about the big, old [fill in the latest opponent] and the masses have a duty to perform actions to help the government where they can. The Chinese news say a certain committee is (in their opinion) trying to steal what rightfully belongs to China to give to an undeserving country (all countries other than China are considered undeserving), and Chinese hackers start attacking. While a person in China can be executed for hacking into a Chinese bank, and Internet use is highly monitored, attacks against outside systems are let through the Great Firewall and there are no repercussions to the hackers. Throw in that Chinese hackers get under the table help and guidance from PLA Unit 61398 (all denied by China of course), and you have a setup where China claims it isn't "them" doing the attacks.
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Re:For me, the uninformed
Except I'm not American. I am British by descent, and have lived and worked on three continents. But your point is irrelevant anyway: The term is commonly used outside the USA as well. For example:
UK:
http://arstechnica.co.uk/gamin...
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new...
http://www.theguardian.com/tec...
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news...
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2015/...
CA:
http://circanews.com/news/cord...
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/n...
http://www.chathamdailynews.ca...
http://www.canadiancordcutting...
http://shayne.tablotvweb.nomad...
AU:
http://www.computerworld.com.a...
http://www.theaustralian.com.a...
http://www.businessinsider.com...
http://www.cnet.com/au/news/co...
http://www.pcauthority.com.au/...
Just because you're ignorant of its usage, that doesn't mean the term isn't broadly used around the world in countries with large English-speaking populations. -
Right
This seems like more of a big deal to me.
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Caution: do not charge remaining eye
http://cdn.computerworld.com.a...
That's the sort of thing one of my bosses would draw up in two minutes and say "See? Only eight boxes. It's easy. Now you go and make it work in half a day."
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Re:Yea no...
Thats why a new net tax is needed to help with the costs.
"Secret government briefing admits metadata law cost and warns of 'internet tax' campaign" (October 30, 2014) (video)
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-...
AFP will use data retention to fight piracy (Oct 30, 2014)
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/...
""Generally they do this in real-time, so the two years of holding this data probably doesn't make a lot of difference. That process of resolving an IP address to an account name is relevant, and it happens all the time.""
Government introduces data retention bill to Parliament (30 October, 2014 )
https://www.computerworld.com....
"source of communication, destination of communication, date, time and duration of communication, or of its connection to a relevant service, type of a
communication, or a type of relevant service used in connection with a communication, location of equipment, or a line, used in connection with a communication"
Thats not "web browsing" history :) Just most details surrounding the content :) -
Re:They can't stop unlockers
You mean like this?
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Re:A risky gamble
http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/27/1228219/
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9243855/_War_Room_notes_describe_IT_chaos_at_Healthcare.gov
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labours-computer-blunders-cost-16326bn-1871967.html
My pet theory is that the key is knowing your requirements, understanding the difference between what it does and how it does it, and being able to distinguish genuinely important ones from "we've always done it like that, if you change it I won't be important any more"
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Re: LibreOffice & Apache OpenOffice merge
You know why you hate TMRepo, which BTW you should be fucking ASHAMED of comparing a JOKE SITE to Stromfront you douchebag, but you know why you hate it? Because like all good jokes its FUNNY BECAUSE ITS TRUE.
I can answer ALL of your arguments with the top 20 TMRepos, you know why? Its the SAME FUCKING EXCUSES the FOSSies have been using for a fricking decade, that's why! How do you think TMRepo came to be? a guy got tired of hearing the same old FOSSie bullshit and decided to just start listing them and tada! TMRepo.
So go back to your circle of loon, go back to pretending that the OEMs haven't all walked away from your broken mess because they got tired of the broken shit which even ESR can't make work while claiming that android is Linux.
Know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result and that is Linux in a nutshell which is why me and every other B&M retailer and OEM have run away screaming from your mess, why even Dell hides it on a back page and gives you multiple warning before they will even sell it to you and just FYI unlike the Windows versions NO SUPPORT because even they know that shit is gonna break. I mean for the love of God fricking God Windows 8, the most hated windows since MSBob, got more users by its second month than Linux has in its entire history, what more proof do you fucking need that your current bullshit direction ain't working?
BTW know why I can produce so many citations and all you can produce is insults? because just like TMRepo I've heard the same excuses from FOSSies for so damned long i know EXACTLY what to type into a search engine to cut through your lies, but you hang onto your bullshit but if you have the balls take the Hairyfeet challenge, I dare you, double dare you to film it and upload it, you'll find that even giving Linux just HALF the support cycle of Linux it WILL fail, know why? Because the "let the devs do it" driver horseshit is just that,total fucking horseshit and IT DOES NOT WORK, it will NEVER work, and THAT is why even the other free OSes refuse to use his fucked up driver model!
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Re:I didn't start using DuckDuckGo for privacy
Yeah, the fibre level is pretty hard to avoid. Here's something I spotted this afternoon, related to the reveal that the US was recording Telstra's Reach traffic:
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/520706/ludlam_demands_telstra_explain_role_us_spying/
Telstra issued a statement defending the agreement.
“This Agreement, at that time 12 years ago, reflected Reach’s operating obligations in the US that require carriers to comply with US domestic law," a Telstra spokesman said.
"It relates to a Telstra joint venture company’s operating obligations in the United States under their domestic law. We understand similar agreements would be in place for all network infrastructure in the US. When operating in any jurisdiction, here or overseas, carriers are legally required to provide various forms of assistance to Government agencies.”
Note the part I put in bold....
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More links on story
"The Australian Attorney-General Department's pig-headed push for Internet data retention were rejected by an Intelligence Oversight Committee for being vague and violating civil liberties. Greens Senator Scott Ludlam said the government needs to get the message and drop the scheme, and warned data retention could be used by PRISM. Head Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus says data retention is off the agenda for now, though when the last AG made a similar promise they caught everyone off guard and passed new laws 12 days later"
http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/06/24/national-security-inquiry-declines-to-endorse-data-retention
http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/06/24/keane-a-debate-we-had-to-have-on-security-measures
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/465679/data_retention_needs_oversight_inquiry/
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/465152/australia_suspected_prism_data_ludlam/
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/roxon-puts-web-surveillance-plans-on-ice-20120809-23x9l.html
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/312771,senate-passes-lite-data-retention-laws.aspx
The government is expected to lose office
Yes they are, but the opposition hasn't ruled out doing the same thing. -
More links on story
"The Australian Attorney-General Department's pig-headed push for Internet data retention were rejected by an Intelligence Oversight Committee for being vague and violating civil liberties. Greens Senator Scott Ludlam said the government needs to get the message and drop the scheme, and warned data retention could be used by PRISM. Head Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus says data retention is off the agenda for now, though when the last AG made a similar promise they caught everyone off guard and passed new laws 12 days later"
http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/06/24/national-security-inquiry-declines-to-endorse-data-retention
http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/06/24/keane-a-debate-we-had-to-have-on-security-measures
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/465679/data_retention_needs_oversight_inquiry/
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/465152/australia_suspected_prism_data_ludlam/
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/roxon-puts-web-surveillance-plans-on-ice-20120809-23x9l.html
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/312771,senate-passes-lite-data-retention-laws.aspx
The government is expected to lose office
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Oh, they run Windows. that explains it
Now let's compare to what costs are in Munich.
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/442894/switching_linux_saves_munich_over_11_million/
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Re:Follow the Digital Harvest Trail
Happy to help:
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/457047/nbn_fibre_splicers_strong_demand/
and the issues
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2013/4/2/nbn-buzz/nbn-co-contractor-relations-weaken-further
" largely blaming construction companies' inability to hire skilled labour quickly enough"
Australia has a closed system for tech - protecting a guild like union history and high pay for skilled locals.
Mining needs skills too - eg heavy diesel maintenance
Sadly Australia does not reach out to the USA, Canada, UK, South Africa for worlds best skills.
Pay for 'education' (then work), protection visa and family reunion visa needs seem to push out real tech needs.
What places are left get filled with wage lowering staff that know not to make trouble.... ;)
Now if the job is in need, time is tight and your skilled, no locals are around at the price-
Try a few days of google searching set to site:au and send out a "few" emails.
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Re:Put it down easy..
MS refusing to support DNS for NT users was the beginning of the end. Upon that announcement things took a dive. When MS retracted it, the damage was to far gone. The momentum of the product and stigma attached to it as a hackjob was establish and AD was able to gain enough momentum, even though it was an inferior product for many years to come.
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/42756/microsoft_halts_nds_support/
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Re:Sonny Bono
Nope. Lobbying has already started.
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/455848/disney_calls_extended_copyright_international_trade_agreement/ -
Interview with Contiki's creator, Adam Dunkels
Shameless plug: I had a pretty extensive chat late last year with the guy who Contiki. You can read it here.
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Re:Lots of Money
It worked with the XBox. Of course the XBox was also helped by Sony's stupidity.
According to data from here, the XBox sold 24,65MM worldwide and the PS2 sold 153,68MM. I don't see how that worked for them. Regarding stupidity (the removal of the OtherOS feature?); according to data from last month the PS3 has just recently got ahead of M$'s Xbox 360 (though only by a million) with total console sales of 77MM but the 360 had a year-long headstart...and if deviating from a "dominant" duopoly, 98.8MM Wiis have been sold .
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Re:Around your ass...
> My record can be used in court. Please do, it is more likely to save me than to convict me.
> "The only reason he was caught was that he paid for his McDonald's coffee with
> a credit card and the FBI used that information to track him down," Reeman said. -
Re:It's nothing personal, Linux
Microsoft cares about loyalty to their own products. They will never exclude them, and will always give them an advantage.
Not really, perfect example is Photosynth wrt Windows Phone, or on{x} on Android.
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Re:Sounds familiar
methods to ensure that every CPU cycle and byte of memory is consumed.
Talking of which, sounds like a constructive use of anonymous' DDOS attacks, for once...
I'd start with 24by7technohelp.com (mentioned in the linked video) and then have a look here:
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/383261/microsoft_loss_over_event_viewer_scam/
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Re:You're not thinking from RSA point of view
Their STATED goal is stamping out piracy. Their ACTUAL goal is make millions performing services of "stamping out piracy". So if piracy is up, the demand for their services and their profit obviously goes up as well- who else will defend poor huge software companies and their profits from the scary pirates?
They are a non-profit organization.
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Re:Aboriginal communities 3rd World
Unfortunately and shamefully many Aboriginal Communities in the outback have health and other standards that are 3rd world.
Here are a couple of links:
* http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/304648/olpc_boosts_outback_education_laptop_deployment/ (2012)
* http://www.itnews.com.au/News/300029,indigenous-communities-get-olpc-boost.aspx (2009)
And some research by Gina Milgate to put it into context. -
Re:release the source?
Oh look, its a FOSSie, aka basement troll. How's the koolaid, is it cherry? You want some links on breakage? be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it and that is showing that one of the largest OEMs on the planet can't keep your craptastic OS running without having to do their own fricking fork!
This is why a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? want some more? Nice thing about having the truth on your side instead of religious dogma, i can do this alllll day long! How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses
And how about that "great" Linux security that is supposed to be why we should put up with all this horseshit? Get ready, here they come! Kinda makes that koolaid just a little bitter now, don't it? Now why would anybody care when they could get a Mac or Win 7 and not deal with all this lies and horseshit?
BTW if you'd like a little more food for thought, what OS was 3 of the 4 CAs running that were compromised? take a look and see. Maybe they just had bad configs? Surely someone with knowledge would be safe right? Guess again and its not a fluke by any means.
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Re:And it's mostly areas that have decent ADSL cov
Seconded to previous poster, my parents live in the 'burbs in Sydney on the border of two exchanges and can't get ADSL, so no, this isn't a complete waste.
Targetting higher value areas where they are going to get a large take up and get income to support the roll out is also a good business decision.
CSIRO is building the technology to do NBN for rural. It's called Ngara:
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Re:Development costs?
Thank you for living proof that FOSSies are batshit. you still think that I'm a guy that I can't even get along with and to this very day we don't agree on anything OTHER than the fact you're batshit? delusional much? but if its a pimp slapping of your craptastic OS you want, enjoy! See that's the nice thing about reality, while all you have is insults I have facts! Where are YOUR facts? oh right, they don't exist
:-(Get ready, here they come! Kinda makes that koolaid just a little bitter now, don't it? I believe in using the best tool for the job, but to say Linux is secure or better than any other complex OS is frankly bullshit. Hell I was talking to a 15 year Linux admin on one of the other sites that had gotten so sick of Linux fuckups they were going to BSD and if THAT didn't "just work" they were gonna wash their hands of FLOSS on the desktop and just go Mac.
BTW if you'd like a little more food for thought, what OS was 3 of the 4 CAs running that were compromised? take a look and see. Maybe they just had configs? Surely someone with knowledge would be safe right? Guess again and its not a fluke by any means.
Would you like some more reality? well here it comes! Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?
Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses
.You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retaile
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Re:Basement lighting
Awww...did the poor little FOSSie have his perception bubble busted again? i do find that so delightful. I don't know whether to laugh at you or feel pity at your being so fucking pathetic, I mean I have wrote article on how to make Linux more accessible to small business, what have you done besides wave your tiny penis and scream shill at anybody that won't kiss RMS' sweaty ass? But don't worry i have some nice facts that will make your day, a place where linux is winning? Its vulnerabilities..
Not only does Linux have 4x++ the amount of unpatched security vulnerabilities its competitor Windows Server 2008 does, but it bears 3 remotely exploitable unpatched security vulnerabilities (THE WORST KIND!): one and a two and a three. But hey, what can you expect from an OS that actually has less users than JavaME which is a shitty sub basement OS they put on Tracphones. Of course when you were given an equal chance to compete a decade old Windows beat the shit out of your Linux on netbooks and even ASUS, which invented the whole netbook for the masses with a Linux unit even ASUS has given up on your bullshit How about how you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share ?
But you stick your head under your little blankie and start crying about how "Only a shill wouldn't love our perfect OS!" while ignoring all the bugs, the vulnerabilities, failures, hell even Dell has to run their own repos just to keep your "precious" from crapping itself. How much money you think that costs Alex? wanna bet dell is LOSING money on every sale? I bet you think they can make it up on volume though huh? You just keep telling yourself I'm a bad man, I must be a "M$ Ninja" when in reality I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that has tried your shit and seen what a turd it is. hell its not even up to WinXP standards, much less OSX Lion or Win 7. Hell Vista was the biggest POS on the planet and even with MSFT not even having a horse in the race they fricking STOMPED you with a decade old creaking POS, how fucking sad and pathetic do you have to be to get beat by an OS that is so damned old it came out before SATA or even dual cores and it STILL kicks your ass?
Maybe instead of calling names you should volunteer to fix some of the mess huh? i'm sure you think of yourself as some kind of programming genius because you can copypasta into a CLI. Of course in Windows we would call that a script kiddie, but I guess that means genius in your world. Oh a final bit of info, just FYI...Kernel.org pwnage , Linux.com pwned too oh and MYSQL.com throwing malware worse than a "look at teh titties" toipsite in case you missed it. Man gotta be impressed by that kick ass Linux security, them eyes that make bugs shallow must have cataracts huh?
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Re:The bottom line is we don't need IT department
In that context, cloud storage makes eminent sense because for the cloud service provider, providing reliable storage, or apps, or whatever, is their core competency.
And yet we still see failures from the biggest players like the EC2 crash, the Danger fiasco, iCloud failing or gmail outages. Go 'The Cloud'.
It is not your company's core competency. They will do it better than you. Period.
Yeah because we all know McDonalds' IT systems are managed by the guy flipping the burgers, they don't actually have qualified IT guys there. Seriously you haven't realized that it's just outsourcing the IT department? You think these 'cloud' providers are some other sort of entity that aren't just IT guys running an IT contracting business as opposed to internal division?
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Re:OH SHUCKS! Backward Incompatibility
Even Blowfish's author Bruce Schneier recommends against using Blowfish now. The world at large has moved onto AES instead, and any sensible user would want that instead of the old solution. There is a big difference between that and the sort of user hostile changes the GNOME team has made. You can't add serious feature changes like this to a file format and expect old versions to read them.
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Re:"Linux Command Line Tirckery" HA!
Riiiight, because
.NET is used by anybody, hell I haven't even bothered to install it since ATI replaced .NET with Visual C++ over a year and a half ago, its like Java. Oh and your problem? Took me all of three seconds with Google to find a Microsoft Fix it which involves a ...gasp! A Single button you push. No CLI, no tweaking shit, push the button and reboot. Tada! Now find a fix it for Linux if say, your broadcom worked and was crapped on during the GUI upgrade from 10.04 to 11. what you'll get is a pile of CLI which WILL HAVE TO BE TWEAKED because Linux is waaaay too God damned picky and every. single. thing has to be EXACT. So if the Bash CLI crap is for the broadcom 22.14x and you have the 22.16y you damned well better know it and fix it or you are SOL.;In the end numbers don't lie and even Asus, who started the netbook craze with Linux, well guess what? ASUS has given up most likely because of the amount support costs thanks to crap breaking. I'd bet my last buck that that is the reason that dell won't release their Linux sales figures because they are losing money on every sale since Dell has to Dell has to run their own repos because again you use normal repos? Its craploa on your drivers. That's right, even though they have a teeny tiny subset they can't even use the default repos without the distro crapping out. that's just sad dude.
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Re:Avast runs fine thanks...
Tell me which mean were you intending to invoke, was it works for me or works for me at home it does really because it really would help if you would just point to which meme you are gonna sling. Personally i think they ought to just number them, then you can say 'i'm gonna call a number 4, followed by a 6 and a 19" and call it a day.
You want something besides anecdotes? be careful what you wish for because you just might get it friend. BTW if your OS wasn't broken why did ASUS abandon it? could it be the the insane return rate from people buying your shit and finding it be broke? how do you answer the fact that dell has to run their own repo, even though they only offer Linux on a teeny tiny amount, because otherwise the deathmarch upgrades shit all over the drivers?
The simple answer is you can't, you can't and you won't because that would mean stopping all the koolaid guzzling and admitting the dirty little secret of FOSS, and that is the driver model is shit. Its shit because Linus Torvalds doesn't care if its shit and has said there will NEVER be an ABI, even though Solaris, BSD, OSX, Windows and every other OS that is NOT Linux has one. Do you HONESTLY believe Linus is smarter than every single OS designer in the world? arrogant much? Oh and please post that bit from one of the kernel devs against ABIs because i don't have that cultist rant bookmarked yet, thanks. When the guy goes so far as to say 'I hope anybody who uses non free drivers has their devices break often!" he has ceased being a developer and became a FOSSie, which like Moonies only accept "the one true way" all bow before the smelly feet of RMS.
But if you'd like more examples, please just ask, 5 minutes in google and i can wallpaper this page with link after link saying the same thing I am, your shit be broke yo.
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Re:Linux vendor?
Funny you should mention dell because they are actually a poster child for how broken Linux is a consumer platform is because Dell have to run their own repos just to keep there teeny tiny subset of hardware from being shat on when the devs scratch their itches. I will bet my very last dollar if Dell will publish their numbers (which they won't BTW, I even asked them out of curiosity and they won't give you the numbers) that Dell is LOSING money on Ubuntu because the costs of keeping a dev team to do nothing but maintain their own repo is costing more than they are making on the machines. Do you propose that ALL the OEMs lose money hand over fist to support you? Did you know that ASUS, the ones that started the whole Linux on tiny machines aka netbook craze has given up on Linux and no longer sells any Linux machines? or that a decade old Windows stomped Linux on netbooks or that even canonical admitted that returns were FOUR TIMES higher than Windows? do you think ALL of these people are lying? That they "just don't git it"?
Its really simple friend, to get the level of polish required to make Linux work on the desktop, where suzy the checkout girl won't have to learn bash or how to navigate a CLI when things break, where frankly things WON'T break in the first place, is gonna cost north of a hundred million easy and the FOSS model simply won't allow you to make that amount in the consumer market. Look at canonical, they haven't made a single cent, not one penny, on the desktop. if you figure in how much shuttleworth sunk in they have lost millions without a single dime of ROI, you think that is sustainable? in fact I'd bet my last buck that canonical will be out of desktops in less than 5 years, probably less than 3, simply because they won't be able to generate the operating capital. RMS may think you can have a utopia where everyone works for free towards the common good but that is a fallacy because we human like doing fun jobs and HATE doing shitty jobs and in the FOSS model the busted shitters don't get fixed. The FOSS model works in business because business is used to buying support contracts and they make money off their machines so spending money to make money is fine by them. the consumer market simply doesn't work like that and without the steady income you can't herd the devs and if you don't herd the devs you get what you have now, with bugs measured in years, updates that fix one thing and break three, hell I have Windows units out in the field that have been running since 2002 on a single install. can you imagine trying to update a Linux desktop from 2002 to current and still have it functional on the other end? it won't happen friend, hell take a distro disc from just 3 years ago and apt-dist-upgrade to current and watch things fall apart.
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Re:It looks awesome.
Hell why didn't you bring up toasters while you were at it? See its THIS kind of total flag waving horseshit you ALWAYS get from FOSSies. I said it QUITE clearly we were talking about DESKTOPS, not what your cell phone or TV for that matter runs. Newsflash: Nobody gives a shit, hell unless its Apple nobody even knows what the fuck is on their damned cell phone! Its a screen with buttons and THAT IS ALL. Linux is used there because its FREE and with a locked down cell phone nobody gives a flying wet fart what is behind the buttons, just that the buttons work. Supercomputers? Are nothing BUT CLI, that's it. They are trying to squeeze every little drip drop of horsepower they can so no shit they are using a CLI OS. It also again is the fact its FREE and MSFT frankly has always charged assraping prices on their server products.
Now back to the subject at hand, desktops. if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos? If it is sooo good then why does a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or why has ASUS has given up on your bullshit or why did Walmart run away from linux as fast as it can?
I'll tell you why, its because its too fiddly, too unintuitive, the kernel on up is as solid and stable as the shifting sands, its a geek programmer's toy and NOTHING more ATM. Funny how all the things you mentioned are controlled by......drumroll....geek programmers! who programs cell phone OSes and writes drivers for them? Who sets up Webservers and supercomputers? Why that would be geeky ass nerd programmers! Meanwhile you can't even give the damned thing away for free to normal folks NOR to retailers NOR to OEMs. Doesn't that slap you with the cluebat? or are you too gonna give me a treaty on how "CLI is leet" like this guy?
See i'm the community's worst nightmare, i'm a retailer. i have better things to do than play 'find the fix' on weekends and i don't think staring at your beloved bash prompt is a solution for ANY problem much less EVERY problem. Frankly Windows 98 and System 9 were more polished than the current Linux distros are, and when i have people on this very forum tell me "Well just don't update it" like Linux magically is immune to ALL software exploits? Well i have to think the whole damned bunch has gone stark raving loonie.
Now you be sure to call me a "nigger faggot cocksucker" aka shill troll astroturfer because I dared to point out that after TWENTY YEARS Linux is STILL lower than JavaME. Oh BTW every single lame excuse you used? There is a whole website dedicated to those excuses such as your excuse about supercomputers? Its been there since Dec 2009 so at least try to come up with some new BS, mmmkay?
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Re:Not for long?
Thank you, but I'm just a humble retailer that got tired of being lied to. I mean if their OS was actually good then why has ASUS has given up on Linux? If it is so stable then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? If it is so secure then
So you see somewhere on the way to be a good OS Linux quit being an OS and became a religion. Admittance of the myriad of problems is NOT allowed, anymore that you could question the Koran or Bible in the home of a fundie. Frankly Canonical could change the default picture to Goatse and we'd see apologists come out of the woodwork to explain that is actually a biting social commentary on our times.
Here are some facts: Fact 1- All the major OEMs frankly ignore Linux not because of some secret M$ Ninja conspiracy, but because its so damned unstable thanks to Torvalds treating the kernel as his own playground. this attitude which is expressed by the man himself right here mean a company either has to do like dell and pay a team to basically run their OWN distro, no small task, or deal with a broken mess when Torvalds goes 'Lol Goatse!" and breaks shit. this is why even Canonical admitted there is a FOUR TIMES higher return rate for Ubuntu netbooks which makes linux a money LOSER for any company foolish enough to try. Walmart, Asus, these companies don't just abandon a product willy nilly you know, they did it because of the reasons i listed.
The sad part? All the basic parts are there, a modern kernel, DEs that with some serious polish could be great, plenty of drivers, but the zealots and itch scratching devs make sure Linux goes exactly nowhere. the ONLY reason it has gotten anywhere on servers is MSFT's frankly ass raping prices on CALs. If MSFT dropped the price of WinServer to $100 and the price of CALs to a buck a pop Linux would dry up and blow away, anybody that was honest would admit this. As a Linux admin i know put it "if you give a Windows and Linux admin the same job that the Linux guy has done repeatedly then the Linux admin WILL win, but if its a completely new task? the windows admin will be home making a sandwich before the Linux admin is done Googling".
But instead of admitting that CLIs are for servers and GUIs for desktops you'll get 300 page treaties on how "CLI is leet!" and how much better the world would be if "They would only embrace the POWER of CLI" like its the god damned force. So instead all you get is flag waving and fangirls. notice how many above me rushed to say "And I'm not a fanboi"? Every time you read that the translation should be "I'm such a fangirl I squee like a tweener at a Beiber concert when i see a Bash prompt!"
Ultimately though their denial can't change reality and the simple fact is their precious awesome OS lower than JavaME , a shitty third rate cellphone OS. Why? If it is sooo good why is it so low? Because it ISN'T good, its a buggy, fiddly, unfriendly, unintuitive, CLI heavy fiddly bitch that is about as far from the level of polish from OSX and Win 7 as it is from here to Europa. If they weren't so busy drooling over bash prompts maybe they'd ask the most important question, which is "What are our competitors doing right that we are doing wrong?' but that would mean admitting 70s terminals are as out as Disco, and they'd rather choke on RMS's sandals that admit that little truth.
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Re: One again IBM.....
Well let us say, just for the sake of argument (and remember these were provided by OEMs trying to get lower prices and refuse upgrades of 7 from XP on netbooks, not to mention I can get pro and will be getting 2 copies for Xmas at $39 student discount and I kinda doubt students buying a single copy get a better deal than someone buying 100,000 copies, don't you?) that you data is correct. Now that is talking about Home Premium for $50, which would make starter at around $25. Now considering on last count the average netbooks has nearly FOURTY pieces of trialware installed (just look how many programs are listed under DeCrappifier if you wish for a citation since the OEMs refuse to publish numbers) you are looking at MOST windows costing $15-$30 after the trialware payback is figured in.
Now lets look at just ONE OEM has to pay for Ubuntu. they have to run their own servers, not cheap, they have to hire a team of developers to roll their own version of Ubuntu, what do a developer with experience in rolling their own distros and writing drivers go for? $100,000 a piece? probably need a dozen to run a distro at minimum, and then you have the returns which of course can't be sold as new and as HP admitted when they were looking to sell at an average of $8 profit per unit it really doesn't take but a handful of returns to equal a giant loss. And when we are talking 400% return rates it isn't hard to figure out which OS isn't worth the effort.
This is why ASUS, the ones who created the whole Linux netbook idea, quit carrying Linux, why Windows slaughtered Linux on netbooks where if Windows pricing made a difference anywhere THAT would be the market, yet the ALL abandoned Linux completely.
It is just simple common sense. Ask yourself just ONE single question...If Linux is so great and could save OEMs money then why aren't ANY of them using it? dell hides a handful of Ubuntu machines in the back, basically to get one more checkbox on their bulletpoint list, and the rest don't do even that, why? do you HONESTLY think it is some fast conspiracy to keep your miracle free OS away from the masses? Why isn't any of the little shops like mine using it to undercut competitors?
Because the sad and nasty truth that NO amount of mod points can EVER erase, nor can that one FOSSie going around claiming everyone that doesn't kiss Linus' booty MUST be APK ever change, is this simple truth, which is Linux is free only if your time is worthless and for the OEM frankly MSFT could double their prices and they STILL won't take your OS, because in the end it would cost MORE money. more money to fix broken drivers, more money to deal with the complaints, more money to run their own repos because the default one breaks more than it fixes.
here is a nice article I found several years ago and I hope that you read it. it is a perfect explanation, better than i could EVER write, of why Linux isn't going anywhere. But instead of addressing the problems outlined the "community" will just fling insults like monkeys flinging poo and proclaim their superiority. well I suppose being the biggest failure is still being the biggest at SOMETHING, not sure if I'd brag about it though.
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Re:Yay
And yet again multiple sources ask for citation and all you can do is fling shit like a monkey. Tell me something, how does it feel to be in absolute last place with NO hope of ever getting better? Is it one of those sad stories, where with no friends you turn to something that is unpopular like you are in the hope you'll have something in common? is it that you simply have nothing better to do on weekends besides read man pages so knowing how to "kinda sorta" copypasta makes you have a warm fuzzy feeling? does using a loser in the market somehow justify your own loser state? please tell i bet its an interesting story, probably involves bullying and child abuse. BTW enjoy some failure, just to make you feel at home.
Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?
Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses
.You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.
So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?
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Re:MICROSOFT VERSUS LINUX: FIGHT!
Oh please, they are making money hand over fist, getting paid for the majority of Android handsets AND their own WinPhones, and the case will take YEARS which is years of check cashing. Meanwhile you still think half a sentence proves...you can't copypasta? It doesn't surprise me, living in CLI copypasta is probably all you do anymore and you fail at even that. Perhaps you'd like some links on Linux getting pwned and failing, yes? Just to brighten you day? Maybe you can use a Daemon to download the pages and read them in an email client, just like your beloved RMS does. How sad though that you HONESTLY believe your OS, which BTW you STILL can't fucking update without the damned thing breaking, has a shot. remember what your numbers are?
Get ready, here they come! Kinda makes that koolaid just a little bitter now, don't it? I believe in using the best tool for the job, but to say Linux is secure or better than any other complex OS is frankly bullshit. Hell I was talking to a 15 year Linux admin on one of the other sites that had gotten so sick of Linux desktop fuckups they were going to BSD and if THAT didn't "just work" they were gonna wash their hands of FLOSS on the desktop and just go Mac.
BTW if you'd like a little more food for thought, what OS was 3 of the 4 CAs running that were compromised? take a look and see. Maybe they just had bad configs? Surely someone with knowledge would be safe right? Guess again and its not a fluke by any means.
And of course on the retail side you have a decade old Windows beating the shit out of Linux on netbooks proving that your latest and greatest couldn't even compete with a decade old OS,ASUS has given up on your bullshit, remember them? The ones that actually STARTED the whole netbook thing with Linux? And you can't even keep them! Or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Linux isn't planned it grows like a virus!, yeah that would be an STD and explain why you are still a decade behind on the driver front. Oh and when you respond with your usual bullshit and lame excuses could you please go here so we can see which lameness you are gonna use? The current most popular are "use esoteric workarounds" which is ALWAYS popular in Linux land, and "It works for me!" because you neglect to mention the weekend you waste every 6 months to make that statement true.
Oh and in case anyone is curious about the half of the sentence that makes him wet himself in fear the complete sentence is as far as the user is concerned there is NO command line in windows which of course is 100% true, because their OS simply doesn't need it. Here is another sentence for him to fear BTW Linux IS Windows 98, no more, no less because what was
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Re:Waiting for MS to underbid
Actually I just like pointing out that retards like you have taken over the Linux community and are frankly doing a better job of making sure Linux goes nowhere than MSFT could ever DREAM of doing, I mean I can give plenty of proof of the uberfails, such as Dell having to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? yet do you have enough sense to LEARN from your mistakes? To ask "What are we doing wrong that the competition is doing right"? Of course not, hell you can't even copypasta correctly! Instead you'll scream "They are noobs, we're leet!" while whacking off to the latest bash handbook.
Yet here you are, being given gift after gift by the competition and what do you do? scream "I'm leet!" and shoot yourselves in the face while whacking off to a bash script, I mean you aren't even smart enough to copypasta a single sentence correctly yet to expect the masses to sit around and copypasta pages of CLI mess? And you wonder why you are dead fucking last? Hell you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses. Have you seen that site? It is a WHOLE SITE dedicated to NOTHING but laughing at you and your kind and you know what? Its pretty damned funny!
So please go ahead, i consider it a wonderful chance to educate people on what pathetic failure losers like you have caused the community as a whole. Once upon a time they were making progress, but now there is nothing left of the community but pathetic fat losers like yourself that somehow thinks being able to copypasta into a term somehow makes you "better" than everyone else and that it is your duty to run off the "noobs" but you know what? You are just shooting yourselves in the face,making sure Linux NEVER gains any share, the hardware OEMs won't support you, and that mainstream users treat your OS like toxic waste, and i find that quite hilarious.
MILLIONS of manhours dedicated to linux, TWENTY YEARS of hard work, what do you have to show? you are less than the margin for error, and in large part it is due to douchebags like you that make Linux look like the home of fat losers and trolls. Bravo sir, MSFT couldn't ask for a better useful idiot than yourself. You really should ask them to pay you, after all the village idiot used to get coins thrown at him, didn't he?
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Re:No longer a monopoly
Notice I got modded down and will CONTINUE to get modded down for at least two days in unrelated subjects? This is what I find funny about the teabagger wing of the FOSSies, they think by burying anything that isn't "Gee isn't Linux perfect for the world? Why it sure is Skip, and RMS's farts smells like roses and cure AGW!" they can magically "make it not true! make it all go away, I can't hear you la la la!".
But the funny thing about the truth, one can always produce facts to back it up. Like how Dell have to run their own repos because the current driver model is so fucked up that if they dare to run the default repos the machines will shit all over themselves. not opinion, cold hard fact. How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks which should tell you something, when people would rather have a decade old fisher price GUI than the latest and greatest because its too fiddly and a PITA, or how about how the ones that invented the netbook ASUS has given up on the bullshit? I would bet my last dollar their support costs were THROUGH THE ROOF because of "update foo broke my stuff!" along with having to try to walk someone through a three page CLI "fix" over the phone. I bet the metrics on the calls were just nuts, or how about the kings of "low price at all costs" Walmart running away from Linux as fast as it can which again I bet my last dollar the support costs killed it. don't see that with the iShiny, even though that is about as unfamiliar a UI as you could get for a lifelong Windows user you do you? Maybe because they make it intuitive and easy instead of flipping the user the bird and typing "RTFM Windblowz Luserz LOL!"? How about how the community has the nerve to actually CELEBRATE 1% market share like that is something to be proud of when IRL after TWENTY YEARS of work Linux is actually lower than JavaME and the craziness and logic hoop jumping by the lunatic fringe has gotten so bad there is actually a website that turns the bullshit and excuses into memes which you then see once you know what to look for over and over AND OVER again.
You see, that is the thing about the truth, they can call me "nigger cocksucker faggot" all day long, aka shill troll astroturfer but you know what? It doesn't make black into white, up into down, nor can it change a single number or add a single user to the crazy parade. We retailers have been fucking BEGGING you to straighten your shit and give us some real choice, we have practically DRAWN YOU A MAP and handed you a GPS to keep you from getting off track, and now the competition is gonna give you a fricking 60 yard head start in the hundred meters by shooting itself in the foot TWICE with the fucked Windows 8 GUI and all those late model P4s and early dual cores being EOLed that could play farmville and run FB just fine.
NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY has so much been in your favor, your competition is run by an idiot, now more than ever before the world is doing more and more of their work and play exclusively online, and the visionary behind the second front has died and left a vacuum that they may not be able to fill. Oh and the economy sucks so folks want to save money and are willing to try things that will help them do so. You have the market wide open, the field is yours, so what do you do? say "Don't look at me!" and promptly start waving a gun around the track while masturbating to a Bash script.
But you've run out of exc
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Re:Umm....
Awww...is the poor wittle Lunix Luser getting butt hurt he is STILL in last place and getting beat down by JavaME which is a shitastic cell phone OS? NEWSFLASH STUPID: You don't give the people what they want? THEY WILL IGNORE YOU. And hey guess what? That is EXACTLY what they have done! Now lets let everyone enjoy your daily dose of fail, shall we fucknuts?
Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?
Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses
.You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.
So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?
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Re:If this is an issue...
STILL to afraid to post the correct quote huh? Afraid? For those that would like to know HERE is the whole quote and I DARE anyone to prove me wrong: as far as the user is concerned there is NO CLI in Windows and ANYONE with a brain (except fucknuts here, who was trying to insist that users launch programs by using start>>>run) would know THAT IS A FACT. Try it yourself, walk up to the next dozen people you see on the street and ask them "How do you get command line in Windows?" and they'll say "What is command line?" Because UNLIKE LINUX you do NOT NEED CLI IN WINDOWS. Don't blame me YOU HAVE A BROKEN OS fucknuts, I didn't design the POS.
As for TFA, somebody forget to cut the congressman a check? This is different than Yahoo, Google, Opera, MSFT....how exactly? Hell you have FB tracking you, Google getting every search, going though your Gmails, hell they can probably tell you your favorite color and what you like to have for breakfast. So NOW they want to complain?
Either they come up with MASSIVE new legislation to protect against the huge amount of privacy violations being done by every. single. Internet. company. or they are just blowing smoke. I wouldn't be surprised if they are pissed the Amazon data isn't going through the little back room at AT&T they were so quick to give retroactive immunity to AT&T for.
Oh and a final gift for fucknuts, here is some of the companies that have abandoned Linux, maybe you have heard of a few of them? Like ASUS who has given up on your bullshit or Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? Could it be because they don't want to run their own repos Dell has to to keep Linux from shitting itself?. You've lost, give it up. Even for free you can't give that POS away, you are even lower than JavaME. Nobody wants it, nobody runs it, hell you celebrate when you get a lousy 1% market share. Face it you couldn't give it away in a prison wrapped in pardons. Stick a fork baby, its done.
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Re:About time
Nice answer fucknuts, no proof, not even any experience with the product, just "nu uh!". And this is from an idiot that doesn't even know how to quote correctly so what should anyone expect?
Now let us see what he is AFRAID TO SHOW YOU because it is the TRUTH. The CORRECT quote is "As far as the user is concerned there is NO CLI in windows" and I DARE anyone to prove me wrong. walk up to 100 people in the street and ask them "How do you call up command line in Windows" and you know what you are gonna get? "Whats a command line" Because windows DON'T NEED A SHITTY TERMINAL just to do the tasks 99.995% of the population does. Linux? Puts the terminal on the desktop, why? Because YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. Its a SERVER OS that has been BADLY hacked to pretend to be a desktop OS, but in the end? Its ALL CLI. Here fucknuts, enjoy your fail...
Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?
Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses
.You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes. But here enjoy some of the wisdom of the great RMS and maybe you'll feel better
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Re:It feels too heavy and old
Considering you're the dipshit that can't even quote correctly? Glass houses and all that. at least have the balls to use the correct quote which is "As far as the users are concerned there is no command line in Windows" and I fucking dare you to prove me wrong. Walk up to the next 100 people on the street and ask them dipshit, ask them "How do you get the command line in Windows?" and you know what they'll say? "what's command line?" because nobody uses that shit in windows dumbass, nobody.
But hey, if you want to be IN DENIAL that your OS doesn't fucking work without a 70s era term, that companies like Dell have to run their own repos even though they only offer Linux on a teeny tiny subset of hardware because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos (quality OS you got there friend), that your brand new OS got its ass beat by a decade old OS on netbooks, that major retailers like Walmart are running away from Linux as fast as it can and that even the company that started netbooks with Linux have given up on your CLI heavy bullshit, or that there is even a site dedicated To your bullshit and excuses? Who am I to deny you your illusion?
Now you be sure to tell us how its all a conspiracy of Gates and the Illuminati, that anyone who isn't sucking the koolaid must be a "sekret M$ Ninja!" getting paid the big bux to keep your magical OS down, that if folks would just heed the great RMS the world would be flowers and ponies. it couldn't be that NOBODY WANTS TO GO BACK TO THE 70s! Nope, folks love punch cards and PDPs! CLI makes your neckbeard thick and gives you gonad powerz!
Kinda funny how the ONLY success Linux has seen is Android, which google took away from the community huh? and what IS Android? Why its all GUI, no CLI, all clicky clicky wonderful, that's what it is! So have the balls to quote me correctly or are you afraid I'm right?
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Re:file type
The parent post is from Alex Belits, a jobless Linux astroturfer. Last time he submitted his resume to anyone was when he tried to be Linus Torvalds bootlicker and was turned down for drool.
See how nicely that fits there loony tunes? Oh and I'm not working for anyone but myself, I am your worst nightmare...I'm a retailer. you see we have tried your product and found your bullshit and lies to be just that so maybe you'd like me to enlighten some of the masses, hmm?,
Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses.
Meanwhile i'll go back to enjoying my nice new Asus EEE Windows 7 HP netbook, which I got myself as a little prezzie with some of the profits I made from NOT carrying an inferior product. If you don't like being last? Try putting out a product worth actually stocking. You know what you remind me of? A religious nutball. When someone points out a hole in your dogma you go "La la la, it can't be true! U must be a M$ Ninja!" while we all laugh at your batshit insanity. But hey friend here is a nice video of your hero RMS showing why he is the great one so that should cheer you up.
Nice try, Ballmer.
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Re:file type
The parent post is from Alex Belits, a jobless Linux astroturfer. Last time he submitted his resume to anyone was when he tried to be Linus Torvalds bootlicker and was turned down for drool.
See how nicely that fits there loony tunes? Oh and I'm not working for anyone but myself, I am your worst nightmare...I'm a retailer. you see we have tried your product and found your bullshit and lies to be just that so maybe you'd like me to enlighten some of the masses, hmm?,
Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses.
Meanwhile i'll go back to enjoying my nice new Asus EEE Windows 7 HP netbook, which I got myself as a little prezzie with some of the profits I made from NOT carrying an inferior product. If you don't like being last? Try putting out a product worth actually stocking. You know what you remind me of? A religious nutball. When someone points out a hole in your dogma you go "La la la, it can't be true! U must be a M$ Ninja!" while we all laugh at your batshit insanity. But hey friend here is a nice video of your hero RMS showing why he is the great one so that should cheer you up.
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Re:Hey, big things have started this way
Oops, it seems I've woken up a delusional Linux zealot Sorry
/.. At least he's very amusing. See how nicely that fits? Oh if I wanted I could smack your ass around with the truth all day long, you see that is the nice thing about reality, you have the truth on your side, how about a teeny tiny taste?How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of the latest Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses
.Now right there is a ton of links showing WHAT I HAVE SAID IS TRUE now can YOU do the same? Why no, instead you'll go "La la la I can't hear you, CLI gives me gonad powers and copypasta into a 70s term makes me leet! You must be an M$ Ninja!"
Now accept you are WRONG AND FULL OF SHIT and move on kid. Nobody cares or uses CLI or start>run in Windows except guys that ran DOS and have a raging case of nostalgia. Your OS CANNOT RUN WITHOUT CLI and frankly wouldn't last even a day without one in most cases.
I repeat, do you know what the definition of insanity is? Because here it is, 2011, and as I politely gave you the link to your numbers are worse than a shitty Java phone OS and the numbers don't lie. How big of a damned clue bat does someone have to smack you with before you accept that NOBODY WANTS CLI BUT NECKBEARDS and that a good 99.999998% of the population is NOT NECKBEARDS.
Accept it, give the customer what they want, or watch as they ignore your CLI heavy fiddly little mess. You see, that is the nice thing about a free market, we are free to NOT TAKE YOUR OS if it sucks or doesn't behave the way we want it to. you hang onto your CLI like a Tux blankie and see where your OS is in 5 years, because I'll tell you EXACTLY where it'll be in 5 years if you don't change....less than the margin for error, just where it is now and has been FOR TWENTY DAMNED YEARS NOW.
I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than elitist douchebags like you that will happily take a broken worthless garbage as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.
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Re:Stroking a blow!
Oh please, Poor wittle Lunix user has to think everyone that dislikes your product is a shill. No I'm your worst fucking nightmare...I've actually used your product. And unlike the "stick it to teh man LOL!" types I didn't drink the koolaid. but hey don't take MY word for it, lets ask some people like ASUS who has given up on your bullshit or Walmart who ran away from linux as fast as it could how great your products are? would you like for me to post a couple of dozen point out the same with LO? I'd be quite happy to if you'd like.
Your compatibility? SHIT. Your support for macros? TOTAL SHIT. PPT support? RUNNING FOUL SHIT. Support for complex Excel sheets? BEYOND NASTY SHIT.
But don't worry I've banned anything to do with Linux from my browser, please go back to your circle jerks and I'll just laugh when it fails like Munich all over again. Would you like links to the article from slashdot where everyone had a circle jerk about how big a success THAT was gonna be? I'd be happy to post it!
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Re:Some might argue
So lets see, your response is...suckup suckup suckup, bullshit bullshit bullshit and finally "Fight teh powerz!" am I right? Sum it up?
I don't give a shit if in 1979 he invented the fucking takeout pizza okay? WTF does what he did in the past matter now? does that give him a "be a douchebag free" card? I guess it does as far as you're concerned.
And what are you fucking smoking? What corp in their right mind would be running 16 bit apps nearly 15 YEARS after support ended? Security hole much? hell why not just put some Win98 machines on the network while you're at it. Anybody who actually needs code THAT old has these wonderful things called "VMs" maybe you've heard of them? because nobody in their right mind is gonna let a gaping security hole like 16 bit crapola run on a modern desktop. Oh and how does that 16bit code run on 64bit Linux? Oh that's right IT DON'T.
And I'm about as jealous of Linus dumbass Torvalds as I am of any other cult figure, that is NOT AT ALL. If anything all I feel is pity, pity that otherwise sane people (I assume you're sane, can't tell by your post) would bend over backwards to kiss his ass and take the big steaming turds he hands you and say "Please sir, can I sniff your asshole?". FACT-It has been TWENTY YEARS and Linux is NO FURTHER on the desktop than when it started 20 YEARS AGO. FACT- OSX, BSD, Windows, hell even OS/2 have an ABI and guess what? the DRIVERS WORK which is more than can be said for Linux. But why am I wasting my breath, maybe you'd enjoy some nice copypasta where I point out what a TOTAL FAILURE LINUX IS? As for why it pisses me off, it pisses me off because it COULD be good, if it weren't for assholes like Torvalds and suckups like you. Enjoy
Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?
Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses
.You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandw
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Re:All computers are less secure
Watch out, once they lose the forced and convoluted arguments to support Apple and discredit MS, this what they will degenerate to:
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/188807/mac_worm_author_receives_death_threats/
After all
,it's a religion.