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Re:Big traffic cop is watching
These conditions persist at this one location for hours on end, every single day. How many hash challenges do you suppose there are in just this one photo?
My estimate is that there are 250 vehicles in the photo, generating 31250 hash challenges in a single moment of time at a single location.
Hundreds of billions of hash challenges per hour would be a severe low-ball on this planet, especially if we use your 10 mile radius figure. I am not full of shit as these conditions happen in hundreds of thousands of places around the world all the time
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Re:Assange'e ego
I have heard a lot of people say that Assange has a big ego, is a narcissist etc. But when I actually listen to him speak he strikes me as a level headed guy.
Why do so many people think he has a big ego?
From the picture that emerges in the media, Assange is generally good before a camera (not always), and can charm people. However, people who know him, even his friends, generally recognize that he can be dismissive, abrasive, and is encumbered with an ego at least equal to his substantial programming talents. He tends to berate, insult, and drive people away. If he was better with his people skills and treated people with consideration (after he gets what he wants from them), he probably wouldn't have two sets of sexual assault charges lodged against him by women who apparently threw themselves at him for a fling, not a long term relationship.
Unpublished Iraq War Logs Trigger Internal WikiLeaks Revolt
Domscheit-Berg announced his resignation in an interview with Der Spiegel. By then, a key WikiLeaks programmer had resigned as well, sources say. The coder was responsible for building the software tool WikiLeaks’ volunteers were using to perform a painstaking, line-by-line harm-minimization review of the Iraq logs.
Then Snorrason, the Icelandic university student, resigned after he challenged Assange on his decision to suspend Domscheit-Berg and was bluntly rebuked.
“I am the heart and soul of this organization, its founder, philosopher, spokesperson, original coder, organizer, financier and all the rest,” Assange wrote Snorrason. “If you have a problem with me, piss off.”
“I believe that Julian has in fact pushed the capable people away,” Snorrason said in an interview with Wired.com. “His behavior is not of the sort that will keep independent-minded people interested.”
Narcissism?
Assange: 'I'm the only victim' in rape scandal
"The only victim here is me," stressed the 39-year-old Australian spokesman of the whistleblower website notorious for having recently published nearly 77,000 classified US military documents about Afghanistan.
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Re:I hope the script gets leaked
Butchered? Civilians, children and reporters butchered with hollow point bullets, you're fine with that. Showing the world it's happening, you call that butchery.
Let me guess.... "collateral murder"?
The "civilians" were armed insurgents, apparently associated with running firefights and rocket attacks through the night. They were also probably in violation of curfew, which would once again make them targets. (You noticed how empty the streets were, right?)
The children should have been left behind by the insurgents attempting to rescue their comrades.
By accompanying the insurgents, and without marking themselves, the reporters made themselves targets. They weren't attacked because they were reporters. That was a risk they took upon themselves when they decided to accompany violent extremists fighting against the Iraqi government.
The lot of them were apparently engaged with the apache's 30mm automatic cannon. The military doesn't use hollow point bullets (Geneva & Hague Conventions, and all that).
2 Iraqi Journalists Killed as U.S. Forces Clash With Militias
Clashes in a southeastern neighborhood here between the American military and Shiite militias on Thursday left at least 16 people dead, including two Reuters journalists who had driven to the area to cover the turbulence, according to an official at the Interior Ministry....
The American military said in a statement late Thursday that 11 people had been killed: nine insurgents and two civilians. According to the statement, American troops were conducting a raid when they were hit by small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades. The American troops called in reinforcements and attack helicopters. In the ensuing fight, the statement said, the two Reuters employees and nine insurgents were killed.
''There is no question that coalition forces were clearly engaged in combat operations against a hostile force,'' said Lt. Col. Scott Bleichwehl, a spokesman for the multinational forces in Baghdad.
Butchery? No. If you want to know true butchery, look at Al Qaeda's attack on the Yezidi.
A U.S. air strike killed a senior al Qaeda militant who masterminded truck bombings on Iraq's minority Yazidi community last month that killed more than 400 people, the military said on Sunday.
"On September 3, a coalition air strike killed the terrorist responsible for the planning and conducting of the horrific attack against the Yazidis in northern Iraq on August 14," military spokesman Rear Admiral Mark Fox told a news conference.
Iraq's government has put the death toll at 411 from the suicide bombings, although the Iraqi Red Crescent has said it could be more than 500. The bombings in the villages of Kahtaniya and al-Jazeera were the deadliest militant attacks in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.
A U.S. military statement named the mastermind as Abu Mohammad al-Afri, adding he was the al Qaeda "emir", or prince, in the area where the bombings took place.
Or Al Qaeda's attacks on markets: Al Qaeda use two Down's syndrome women to blow up 99 people in Baghdad markets
Do you have any words for Al Qaeda's actions? Genocidal might fit, as they want to rub out the Yezidi as a people & belief system. What about the attack on the market?
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Re:We also need to refine the process.
Most "pollution" today (excepting CO2) is emphatically not from modern cars.
reinforcing what Anthony says, in addition to coal, the emissions from cargo ships using bunker fuel also results in a staggering amount of pollution. Automobile pollution is negligible in comparison, (although many L.A. residents would likely disagree). "A car driven 9,000 miles a year emits 3.5 ounces of sulfur oxides--while the engine in a large cargo ship produces 5,500 tons" and "bottom line: One giant container ship pollutes the air as much as 50 million cars" (Voelcker, 2009; linky). A Google search for bunker fuel pollution returns an article over at the Daily Mail, How 16 ships create as much pollution as all the cars in the world. (of course I doubt that this is news to most Slashdotters...).
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Pics or it didn't happen
This has a picture of the screw in question:
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Re:Hit them back
I sort of wonder if this is an olive branch from Wikileaks to the US government. After all, the United States has been pressuring Switzerland to allow investigators to peek inside Swiss accounts for awhile now.
This isn't an olive branch at all. The US Government already achieved much of what it wanted in 2009.
A Swiss Bank Is Set to Open Its Secret Files
By LYNNLEY BROWNING - Published: February 18, 2009
UBS, the largest bank in Switzerland, agreed on Wednesday to divulge the names of well-heeled Americans whom the authorities suspect of using offshore accounts at the bank to evade taxes. The bank admitted conspiring to defraud the Internal Revenue Service and agreed to pay $780 million to settle a sweeping federal investigation into its activities.It is unclear how many of its clients’ names UBS will divulge. Federal prosecutors have been examining about 19,000 accounts at the bank, but UBS ultimately may disclose the identities of only a few hundred customers.
...As part of the settlement, UBS agreed to cooperate with a broad summons issued by the Justice Department to turn over the names. Under the terms of a so-called deferred prosecution agreement, the bank and its executives could be indicted if UBS didn’t identify the customers.
UBS has said it is closing the offshore accounts of its American clients. But under the deal with the United States authorities, the bank must provide periodic written evidence of that to prosecutors. UBS earned $200 million annually from the business.
Prosecutors suspect that from late 2002 to 2007, UBS helped American clients illegally hide $20 billion, letting them evade $300 million a year in taxes.
So no, this isn't Assange helping the US, it is Assange doing what he can to screw people with secrets (legal or otherwise).
I'm sure there is a word to describe the overall situation.... i.. something...
Now Wikileaks suffers its own leaks - 12 Dec 2010
... a senior WikiLeaks activist told The Sunday Telegraph that she and others had resigned from the organisation because of their deep concern about its treatment of sources and "lack of transparency with relation to large sums of money".
This newspaper has learned that one of WikiLeaks's main funding channels, the Germany-based Wau Holland Foundation, has been issued with two official warnings by charity regulators after failing to file financial records....
WikiLeaks, which says its operating costs are about $200,000 (£125,000) a year, claims to have raised more than $1 million (£625,000) in donations in the first eight months of this year alone, before most of its highest- profile leaks were published.
Since then, according to one person connected with the group, further "serious amounts of money" have come in, mostly in small sums through the WikiLeaks website. However, in its four-year existence, the group and its associated organisations have never produced any accounts.
WikiLeaks promised to publish accounts in August, but did not do so. It now says it will provide them by the end of the year.
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What with their 50p fares, etc....
Ryanair shot themselves in the foot with this approach - they're pretty much a joke nowadays.
Fascinating Aida - Cheap Flights
And one of their little scams has been ruled illegal in Spain
(People still fly by them, bu the customer dissatisfaction levels grow daily)
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Susan Miller
"The popular astrologer Susan Miller called the news "ridiculous." In an interview with ABC News, she said, "We've known about this for ages. The constellations don't suggest what's coming up, it's the planets! The constellations are a measuring device."
"In ancient days there were, like, 50 constellations. Then they finally got together and agreed on 18. Then they narrowed it down," says Miller. "I'm getting so many tweets. Trying to explain something technical in 140 characters is hard!"
That's it. Two lines.
There is a LOT of media energy being spent focusing on spinning up a ton of confusion based on old, (OLD) news and very little spent asking people who know what they are talking about to clear things up. It's almost as though there is some sort of vested interest in muddying the waters.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Greenland saw the Sun rise two days too early this year. . ?
-A story which actually happens to be HUGELY important because it means our planet is changing significantly, (probably spinning more slowly.)
Though, I notice in the rush to forget about it as quickly as possible, they're actually trying to pin it to Global Warming. (As if they measure the annual sunrise dates against the tops of mutable ice and snow rather than a fixed horizon feature, like the ocean, for instance.)
Whatever the case. . , I smell distraction.
The world is changing in BIG ways, folks. But yes, let's confuse the issue by creating emotional links to nonsense stories that scientifically inclined people will then have to contend with should they ever wake up for long enough to notice the real issues happening around them.
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Re:The right wing is more prone to fear.
Conservatives, scientifically, are more scared of loud noises and scary pictures, were described as being frightened and easily offended as three year olds, and have a larger 'fear' center and smaller 'anticipation and decision-making' center
This isn't spin, it's established science. So seeing fear, anti-government sentiment, and a parroting of the Glenn Beckesque rhetoric that's unfortunately a large part of the news here in the US right now doesn't surprise me one bit.
Conclusion: In the age of three years, we were all conservatives.
So where's the conservative campaign to allow three-year olds to vote? :-) -
The right wing is more prone to fear.
Conservatives, scientifically, are more scared of loud noises and scary pictures, were described as being frightened and easily offended as three year olds, and have a larger 'fear' center and smaller 'anticipation and decision-making' center
This isn't spin, it's established science. So seeing fear, anti-government sentiment, and a parroting of the Glenn Beckesque rhetoric that's unfortunately a large part of the news here in the US right now doesn't surprise me one bit.
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Why Japan banned MMR
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Re:Ban guns
You mean "no incidents like this excluding those involving underworld characters."
-- Nagasaki mayor dies after being shot: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18151200/
Or "no incidents like this excluding those involving edged weapons."
-- 6 knifed to death in Britain in a 24 hour period: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1034472/SIX-stabbed-death-just-24-hours-Blade-Britains-knife-epidemic-spirals-control.html
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Re:Crazy people
if you preach violence and hate, you get it expressed
you reap what you sow
to absolve certain groups who have been violently expressing their distaste of government for an extended period of time from what is an obvious result of that rhetoric, represents a strange way to think about how the world and human nature works
yes, there are crazy people everywhere. but if you give the crazy person easy access to a gun, and yell at them crazy theories about how their own government is their mortal violent enemy, you get crazy people shooting at the government. its a pretty straightforward cause and effect
you can't absolve from guilt the demagogue who has been preaching violence and hate when violence and hate is expressed exactly as the demagogue's words intend
look at the violent anti-abortion rhetoric and the shooting of the abortion provider in kansas. the crazy people are enabled by the rhetoric. plenty act on their own, but plenty more act in the name of the group that enables them
plenty more are motivated to do what they sense everyone else wants done: they derive sustenance and support form the others who clearly want hate and violence expressed, they act as martyrs, they act as fall guys, but they do act in the name of a group and a cause, not completely on their own, when the larger group is clearly filled with violence and hate. don't absolve that violence and hate in certain movements from what crazy people do
they are the tip of the spear, they do not act alone, and you are a fool if you don't understand the hate-filled group and its rhetoric enables them
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-11-09-kansas-abortion-shooting_N.htm
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Human echolocation
Here are two links to articles about children who use echolocation to compensate for their blindness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1QaCeosUmw
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218291/Blind-boy-7-Briton-able-ears.html
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Re:Sensor payload?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1268535/Superspy-sky-soon-patrolling-British-cities-search-hidden-terror-cells.html
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You jest, but...
You jest, but check out The top-rated comments in this article. I know, I know, Daily Mail readers and science do not go well together, but seriously - the zoom in on the ISS proves that the photo is fake? The sun spots are birds? I despair, I really do...
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Re:The damage is already done
The post you quote is a fabrication. The article is 7 years old. That can see that here.
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Re:The damage is already done
You've been duped.
That article wasn't published today - it is 7 years old. You can see that here.
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Re:The damage is already done
Unbelievably the Daily Mail has published this today as well:
Mercury in flu vaccine is linked to autism.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-153722/Mercury-flu-vaccine-linked-autism.html
You couldn't make it up.... unless you were the Daily Mail.
Actually, you could:
And for American readers, you might like this:
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Re:The damage is already done
Unbelievably the Daily Mail has published this today as well:
Mercury in flu vaccine is linked to autism.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-153722/Mercury-flu-vaccine-linked-autism.html
You couldn't make it up.... unless you were the Daily Mail. -
Re:So many things wrong with this submission...
1. That quote is just under a year old, was a random comment with no evidence that the poster was who they said they were, that they knew what they were talking about, and was talking about the winter in 2009 to boot.
2. It doesn't matter globally if it froze people's balls off in England: Local Weather STILL isn't Global Climate.
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Reading up on this more I found...
Reading up on this more I also saw what the BBC reported with dailymail that
But Detective Chief Inspector Mick Neville said Scotland Yard has revolutionized the use of CCTV by treating it like DNA or fingerprints.
Treated like DNA eh?
Granted this isn't the same era as 12 Angry Men where the woman's eyesight is called into question (aha cameras!), but still it leaves much to be desired unless a clear shot is gained. Being that I do not know much about what is judged as clear, anyone care to help clarify this here for me? Is there some confidence interval? Do they run facial recognition? (Perhaps I just have bad reading comprehension haha)Point is when someone makes a comparison between fingerprints and DNA to CCTV (not always stellar HD) cameras, I start to wonder...
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Reading up on this more I found...
Reading up on this more I also saw what the BBC reported with dailymail that
But Detective Chief Inspector Mick Neville said Scotland Yard has revolutionized the use of CCTV by treating it like DNA or fingerprints.
Treated like DNA eh?
Granted this isn't the same era as 12 Angry Men where the woman's eyesight is called into question (aha cameras!), but still it leaves much to be desired unless a clear shot is gained. Being that I do not know much about what is judged as clear, anyone care to help clarify this here for me? Is there some confidence interval? Do they run facial recognition? (Perhaps I just have bad reading comprehension haha)Point is when someone makes a comparison between fingerprints and DNA to CCTV (not always stellar HD) cameras, I start to wonder...
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Re:Without specifics, I think we should be wary...
You will not find a credible mental health professional who agrees with his assessment. That's a really fucking scary view into his psyche. His own admission is that video games are fun. He likes video games. Killing people is like playing a video game. Therefore, "Killing people is fun." At best, he's a sociopath.
Soldiers would never enjoy killing? : US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies' "Other soldiers told the army's criminal investigation command that Gibbs boasted of the things he got away with while serving in Iraq and said how easy it would be to "toss a grenade at someone and kill them".
If you were the pilot of an Apache, cruising through the skies, taking out enemy tanks with Hellfire missiles, why would you not enjoy the experience? If you believe that you are doing good deeds, killing bad guys, and protecting your country, and getting a massive adrenalin rush, all at the same time, would you honestly feel upset that you are killing bad guys and "terrorists"? Do you think that the average soldier cries when they kill a bad guy "terrorist"? Of course not. These people are professionals, they are trained to be desensitised towards killing. The men like Peter Mercer (who killed himself after asking his father "How can you love someone who has killed so many people?") are in the minority - most soldiers do not feel a lifetime of suicidal regret for their killing.
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Old news
The Molycorp restart has been known for months. The IPO was back in July.
"Rare earths" aren't really that rare. There are many potential mining sites worldwide. They're sparse, in that huge amounts of rock have to be processed to get small amounts of metal. Because of that, rare earth mines produce vast amounts of useless tailings, contaminated with the chemicals used in extraction. That's why nobody wants one nearby. The big one in Inner Mongolia is considered an environmental disaster area even by Chinese standards.
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Re:it was
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Re:Really? People are surprised?
The US has no Official Secrets act. It is perfectly legal for anyone to tell classified information to anyone else as long as they have not sign documents stating they will not do that.
Basically, all punishment for leaking classified information is contractual. Mannings agreed to it, and hence he be punished.
Not quite.
18 U.S.C. 793 : US Code - Section 793: Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;....
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of
the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.This also looks interesting: 18 U.S.C. 798 (disclosing classified information)
As does this: 18 U.S.C. 2511. Interception and disclosure of wire, oral, or electronic communications prohibited
The Pentagon Papers case does not have the expansive application that many assume.
II. There is no Clarity in Current Constitutional Doctrine Over Whether The First Amendment Permits the Criminal Prosecution of Reporters for the Mere Possession or Subsequent Publication of Classified Material. There is, however, Substantial Reason to Doubt that Current First Amendment Doctrine Does Bar the Making of Mere Possession or Subsequent Publication of Classified Material Criminal. Testimony of Dean Rodney A. Smolla, United States Senate, Committee on the Judiciary
There is plenty of reason to believe that the investigation against Assange is motivated by his behavior, not by some government conspiracy.
10 days in Sweden: the full allegations against Julian Assange
The wildly promiscuous lifestyle of WikiLeaks boss Julian Assange: Look away now Jemima as our report reveals the sordid truthContrary to some people's ideas, Interpol does get involved in rape cases.
Since when does the CIA investigate crime?
The CIA has its own Inspector General, and no doubt other investigators. There are plenty of circumstances that might call for investigations when national security is involved in a large organization like the CIA.
I'm just a little baffled that the CIA is openly admitting the government is trying to figure out ways to charge Assange with a crime.
Assange was/is allegedly?/apparently? involved in a conspiracy to procure and publish hundreds of thousands of stolen classified US Government documents on the web so that any enemy of the United States can access them and hunt down named info
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Re:But Of Course
One possibility is that Wikileaks and Assange are losing public support.
They are.
WikiLeaks: A Document Dump Too Far
WikiLeaks Comes Under Fire from Rights Groups
Reports that Wikileaks released the names of Afghan informants hasn't helped
Sad, but true. Hopefully none are killed. We need as many informants against the Taliban as we can, both to protect the Afghans, and to protect the US from more terrorist attacks.
WikiLeaks Reportedly Outs 100s of Afghan Informants
profiles of Assange (such as the one in the New York Times) don't paint him in a very flattering light.
They aren't the only ones.
10 days in Sweden: the full allegations against Julian Assange
No one gains from this 'rape-rape' defence of Julian Assange
My understanding from the Times article is that even within Wikileaks, there is a lot of controversy about how Assange has acted.
Is WikiLeaks Reneging on its Financial Promise to Bradley Manning?
Former WikiLeaks Activists to Launch New Whistleblowing Site
‘Chaos’ at WikiLeaks Follows Assange Arrest
Although not internal to Wikileaks, thought provoking.
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Re:But Of Course
One possibility is that Wikileaks and Assange are losing public support.
They are.
WikiLeaks: A Document Dump Too Far
WikiLeaks Comes Under Fire from Rights Groups
Reports that Wikileaks released the names of Afghan informants hasn't helped
Sad, but true. Hopefully none are killed. We need as many informants against the Taliban as we can, both to protect the Afghans, and to protect the US from more terrorist attacks.
WikiLeaks Reportedly Outs 100s of Afghan Informants
profiles of Assange (such as the one in the New York Times) don't paint him in a very flattering light.
They aren't the only ones.
10 days in Sweden: the full allegations against Julian Assange
No one gains from this 'rape-rape' defence of Julian Assange
My understanding from the Times article is that even within Wikileaks, there is a lot of controversy about how Assange has acted.
Is WikiLeaks Reneging on its Financial Promise to Bradley Manning?
Former WikiLeaks Activists to Launch New Whistleblowing Site
‘Chaos’ at WikiLeaks Follows Assange Arrest
Although not internal to Wikileaks, thought provoking.
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Re:For the kids
In 2010 not a contrast.
http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1291648380371.shtm
If You See Something, Say Something'
"Informing on your neighbours? There's an app for that: Big Brother iPhone download encourages you to spy "
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1338738/The-Big-Brother-app-New-iPhone-download-lets-tell-tales-neighbours.html -
Re:Oh wow.
For perhaps the only time in living memory, the Daily Mail has one of the more measured articles about this:
'The plan is to allow parents to 'opt out' of the sites and they will then be blocked at the source, rather than using conventional parental controls...Adults who wish to view the material would have to choose to 'opt in'.'
The Metro is even clearer:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/850896-new-porn-controls-for-children-on-internet-planned-by-government
'He hopes to introduce a system that would enable parents to ask internet service providers (ISPs) to block adult sites at source, rather than relying on parental controls that they need to set themselves...Adults using the internet connection would then have to specifically 'opt in' if they want to view pornography.'
So Vaizey (and right now it's just him having a chat with the IPSs, not government policy) wants a scheme where parents can REQUEST a default filter for their connection, but Dad can opt back in when he's 'working late' at the PC.
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Re:Concocted?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1335888/WikiLeaks-Julian-Assange-release-damaging-secrets-killed-arrested.html
Killed OR Arrested.
No government is stupid enough to kill Assange. Evil, maybe, but not stupid. If he was killed, that would make him a martyr. And it wouldn't matter what information the organization had. His death would reinforce his point beyond control. Now if Assange committed suicide and made it look like a murder, he'd do 1000x more damage to the "convoluted" governments than releasing every secret from every government. -
Re:Temporary solution?
In the late 90's I remember hearing about research into encapsulating islet cells in semi-permeable capsules that let insulin out, but not immune cells in. They hoped to implant these capsules in a Type 1's liver as a durable treatment. Coupled with research like that, or the work that Dr Faustman is doing at Massachusetts General, this looks like the kind of progress that would have saved my father, or might save me from dying young with complications.
It's good to know that progress is being made. A cure has been promised "within the next 5 years" for as long as I can remember. You start to get jaded after awhile.
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Re:I went to Amazon and made a purchase
This isn't hatred of the US. Try to think beyond "they hate freedom." I'm an American and I'm pretty pissed that the government doesn't like what a whistle blower is doing, so the go about systematically trying to dismantle their life (including elected officials calling for assassinations and whatnot). Take a look at this article on Assange's "sex crimes". They just need an excuse to get him into custody for future extradition.
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Re:Assange is the guest of honor
You present this timeline:
Women do not want to press charges (so how does anyone know what happened?)Overzealous prosecutor "forced the issue." (How? What "Issue" is being forced? How did the prosecutor know?)
Director of public prosecution Marianne Ny decided to reopen the case, saying new information had come in on Tuesday. "We went through all the case material again, including what came in, and that's when I made my decision," [to reopen the case] Ny told The Associated Press by phone. She declined to say what information she had received or whether Assange, who was questioned by investigators on Monday, would be arrested. An arrest warrant issued on 20 August was withdrawn within 24 hours.
Later, a lawyer convinced the women to press charges. (Wait, didn't you JUST claim the prosecutor did that? How did said lawyer know about the case if the women never pressed charges?)
No, the prosecutor reopened the case, regardless of the will of anyone else. It does appear that one woman at least very much wants Assange punished... but only well after the fact. At the time when the alleged sexual assault was occurring she was more than happy to be there and enjoying the Julian Assange Experience.
Here's the timeline as I understand it. "Julian Assange is being harassed for slighting the feelings of two groupies who worshipped him before and after the alleged rapes and he's being hunted for something that's definitely not rape and not even a crime yet." There is plenty of evidence all over the place including multiple admissions from both women, deleted tweets made by one woman gushing about how happy she was about being with Assange which presumably included fucking him, relevant deleted blog posts, et cetera. The only question is whether there is a political motivation behind this, or it was just an opportune time to harm Assange without any concern by these women over the cost to freedom.
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Re:Assange is the guest of honor
At the very worst, it sounds like he was an opportunistic horn dog who doesn't like to use condoms and doesn't take no for an answer when he is in the middle of coitus.
Where do you get "doesn't take no for an answer"? We have no descriptions of the event beyond the account in the daily mail in which they have unprotected sex and she goes out and buys breakfast and makes jokes about the potential for pregnancy while they ate it by her own account. I don't care whether or not she's characterized as a "slut" or "groupie" since that has no bearing on her right to say no, I care about consent. Where do you get this thing about "in the middle of coitus"?
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Re:Assange is the guest of honor
Also, groupies? Really? You really want to go there, smearing the women with a derogatory name like that? Even if you had something to back up your claim that they are, it's just tasteless and crass.
I know we're all justifiably dismissive of the Daily Mail, but they have every incentive to summon up all their integrity when they report on this issue, and there is no evidence to the contrary; or if there is, I have not seen it. I do, however, invite it.
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Re:Assange is the guest of honor
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Re:Assange is the guest of honor
He's already in custody; he turned himself in in the UK.
I guess that's what happens when you get INTERPOL set upon you for the crime of having consensual sex with groupies without a condom. Groupies who remained supportive after their sexual trysts until they found out that he was sleeping around. Because that's the sort of stuff INTERPOL is there for, right? Certainly politics didn't play a role in THAT warrant...
consensual rape is a serious crime, even if the charges are dropped and then reinstated at a later time.
Wait, I guess "Less Serious Rape" isn't a serious crime.
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Re:okay thats great but
What? We already built a Time And Relative Dimension?
Yes, it exists, in the same sense that the sonic screwdriver exists.
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Re:Assange is the guest of honor
He's already in custody; he turned himself in in the UK.
I guess that's what happens when you get INTERPOL set upon you for the crime of having consensual sex with groupies without a condom. Groupies who remained supportive after their sexual trysts until they found out that he was sleeping around. Because that's the sort of stuff INTERPOL is there for, right? Certainly politics didn't play a role in THAT warrant...
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Re:They are behind it
There is nothing in the NYTimes article that justifies this elaborate portrayal of the events. Is there another source that justifies this?
Oh, yeah, I forgot that one. It comes from The Daily Mail, which claims copies of the women's police statements as the source for most of its reporting.
Though not for this one tidbit, which was the source for my description: "One source close to the investigation said the woman had insisted he wear a condom, but the following morning he made love to her without one."
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Re:Sorry, no "dirty tricks" campaign here...
...just two starstruck women sympathetic to WikiLeaks' cause — one of whom was a longtime activist and even a part of an organization that arranged one of his talks, and thus obviously not a CIA "sparrow".
All the sordid details here. It's a must-read for people who think US intelligence agencies are somehow behind this.
Would this have been able to happen without Sweden's strange "rape" laws? No, probably not. Would the case have received as much attention from authorities if it was an ordinary person? Again, perhaps not, but that's the price of fame and notoriety: famous and well-known people often get different treatment — and what treatment they do get garners massive news coverage.
You're delusional...
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Re:They are behind it
Really? It seems pretty foolish to pursue a false agenda. Right near the start of this very article someone linked The Daily Mail's take on it which gives a reasonably close interpretation to that he put forward. From the article:
"The pair went out for dinner together at a nearby restaurant. Afterwards they returned to her flat and had sex. What is not disputed by either of them is
that a condom broke -- an event which, as we shall see, would later take on great significance.
At the time, however, the pair continued to be friendly enough the next day, a Saturday, with Sarah even throwing a party for him at her home in the evening."
So apparently he isn't making stuff up at all, he's merely taking one of many interpretations as it is presumably the one he believes most likely to be true.
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Whores.thats what its all about. whores. 'activists' for a long time, 'feminist warriors'
.... ending up to be the whores who have given the powers that be, the VERY sources that propagate the male-dominant society, the means to end an effort for truth.
im calling them whores in front of the public. there are a lot of men who would stomach a rape in the ass so that these kind of filth came out, and truth be known, but these bitches werent able to handle a single man's infidelity.
curse on their souls, in both sides of this reality. i hope they get treated like whores they are, in this life.From the provided link: Earlier this year, Sarah is reported to have posted a telling entry on her website, which she has since removed. But a copy has been retrieved and widely circulated on the internet. Entitled ‘7 Steps to Legal Revenge’, it explains how women can use courts to get their own back on unfaithful lovers. Step 7 says: ‘Go to it and keep your goal in sight. Make sure your victim suffers just as you did.’ (The highlighting of text is Sarah’s own.)
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Sorry, no "dirty tricks" campaign here...
...just two starstruck women sympathetic to WikiLeaks' cause — one of whom was a longtime activist and even a part of an organization that arranged one of his talks, and thus obviously not a CIA "sparrow".
All the sordid details here. It's a must-read for people who think US intelligence agencies are somehow behind this.
Would this have been able to happen without Sweden's strange "rape" laws? No, probably not. Would the case have received as much attention from authorities if it was an ordinary person? Again, perhaps not, but that's the price of fame and notoriety: famous and well-known people often get different treatment — and what treatment they do get garners massive news coverage.
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Re:Leak DRM?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread556388/pg1
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/46616/whistleblower-rti-activist-satish-shetty.html
http://hollyonthehill.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/bp-whistleblower-found-dead/
Those are the first things Google brought up. I know I didn't provide any sources, the information in that post I learned while taking a Business Ethics class and I'm too lazy to dig out the text book and find examples.
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Re:In Soviet Russia...
UK police and security services are fully aware where Assange is (he's not hiding from them), but are not arresting him because of errors in the Interpol warrant. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1334899/Scotland-Yard-arrest-wanted-WikiLeaks-boss-today.html
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Re:"Sex crimes"
The one women in question also said she said to stop when a condom broke. If a woman (or guy) says stop and you don't, thats where it becomes rape.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/01/sweden-julian-assange-rape-investigation
Let him go to Ecuador, shorter flight for the CIA when they go to kidnap or kill him.
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Re:The true reason for this release
There was nothing criminal or even shocking other than the candid opinions of lower level personal in the state department about other countries and said countries leaders.
Look again. No one has even scratched the surface of these things in terms of sheer volume, people snatch out a couple bits that support their thesis and run with it apparently. One thing that has jumped out at me right off - Hillary Clinton violating quite a few laws. Will be interesting to see if she gets charged or not.