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Re:But,,,
I did the search on Ebay and came up with nothing. Try "irradiated dime" instead. It gave me this dime for example.
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Simple solution
Take your $$$ elsewhere. No matter how much love you have for the game, it has forsaken you. There's too many other quality games out there; why waste time on sheer frustration?
eBay is great for finding used games, sometimes at hardly more than the cost of a month of EQ. -
Re:Best Game No One Played on PC
The games that fall through the cracks don't necessarily end up in discount bins. Look at The Neverhood, for example.
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Re:wi-fi advice
I would suggest finding a yagi or panel style antenna with a wide enough radiation pattern to cover your house and hooking it up pointing so it covers the entire house. I know that you can hook it up to antenna connector on the linksys routers.
Personally I have a 16DB Andrew Panel antenna on one end of my apartment. I am able to go through 3 apartment buildings and get a link with this setup. A Homebrew cantenna may actually work better.
You can get a cable made to convert a SMA conenctor, found on the linksys routers to a N connector, and hook it up to the antenna of your choice.
I know you can buy premade linksys connectors here Their cantenna would probably work to cover your whole house if it is elongated as well; however I have never used their equipment so I would not know for sure.
If you want more info, or ideas contact me. rusty@NOSPAMdestroymicrosoft.org (minus the nospam)
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Have Your Micro RC and Eat it Too
Just because the spammers are ruining your day doesn't mean you have to forego the item completely... Buy a different manufacturer/model. I highly recommend the original Bit Char-G Micro RCs at either your local japanese toy shop, or lacking that-- a listing on eBay will do the trick well enough. $25-$30 is generally the going price and yeah, the instructions are in Japanese, but if you can't figure out the large obvious pictorials, you shouldn't be using a computer anyway (in other words some assembly required, takes under 10min for the average first time user). Bit Char's were around before the micro RC craze here and they're good quality and well supported. Upgradable motors (up to 30,000 rpm!) and tires in addition to the bodies. Good stuff.
What gets me is the number of people who let spam alter their shopping habits. Avoiding the seller I can understand. He spammed you, you're pissed. But boycotting the entire brand? Come on now. The manufacture most likely doesn't have a clue and even if they did, there's not a whole lot they could do about it. So just get your present as planned form either the store or a more reputable website. Easy, ne? -
credit card chargeback
This post really belongs under some of the other top level posts regarding credit cards, but I wanted it at the top level to get more attention to an issue I think many people are not aware of.
Not all credit card purchases are safe. When a eBay seller asks for _only_ Western Union wire transfer or C2IT, you should be wary. Both of these transactions are billed to your credit card as cash advances and are not subject to credit card fraud protection charge back. YMMV - read your terms and conditions for your credit card.
I maintain a page of scam auction red flags here:
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A link to a guy who does this
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Re:OMG!!!
I've seen the ROM. Unfortunatly, the actual cart had a set of dip switches on it (here's a better pic, too) which were used for setting the time limit on the game.
If you're interested perhaps you might find it online somewhere. Though don't ask me where. ( :
If you do find it, be sure to read the documentation in the zip file explaining the dip switch hack. You'll need a good emulator too. NESticle, while good in it's day, won't cut it with this. -
A good conversation piece, but...
These lists are never accurate at all in terms of rarity, and so much of what constitutes the term "collectible" is subjective. Take Radiant Silvergun, for instance - is a game so easily available really all that rare? It may be desirable, but it's hardly a rare game. Contrast that with Chase the Chuckwagon, which I've seen maybe once in the entire time I've been checking out Ebay (and it sold for around $500, if I recall), and you see the obvious difference.
A lot of games are rarer than any of those on this list, but nobody wants them because either a) there's no story behind the game (this is why people want Chase the Chuckwagon), b) the game sucks, or c) both. On the other hand, a lot of games are a lot more desirable to most people than any of these, but they're quite common. When coming up with a list like this, you're obviously trying to find the balance of games that are ultra-desirable and at least fairly rare - but then I don't think the intro of this list (where the rarity alone is hyped) is all that descriptive of what the list really represents.
If I sound overly analytical, it's because I am one of these collectors myself. When deciding how much is a fair price for a game you really, really want that you know you'll probably never see again, these are the kinds of questions you mull over.
As far as PC games go... no way Zork, Wolfenstein, Leisure Suit Larry or any number of other games I've seen mentioned here are in the same league as a game like Chase the Chuckwagon in terms of rarity. These games were on regular store shelves for years and hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people bought them. All of my friends had them, and I still have them. They're obviously somewhat rarer *now* than they were at the time - but think about it. Chase the Chuckwagon was rare when it was produced (and by "rare" I mean you could not ever walk into a store and buy it, you could not and cannot find it at flea markets or garage sales, you cannot find it online). Just imagine how rare it is now 20 years later.
Regardless, "rare" PC games are generally not nearly as collectible as console games because they're not as much of a commodity. I've never personally seen anyone pay $500 or even $200 for a rare PC game, although it's possible someone has at some point. -
A good conversation piece, but...
These lists are never accurate at all in terms of rarity, and so much of what constitutes the term "collectible" is subjective. Take Radiant Silvergun, for instance - is a game so easily available really all that rare? It may be desirable, but it's hardly a rare game. Contrast that with Chase the Chuckwagon, which I've seen maybe once in the entire time I've been checking out Ebay (and it sold for around $500, if I recall), and you see the obvious difference.
A lot of games are rarer than any of those on this list, but nobody wants them because either a) there's no story behind the game (this is why people want Chase the Chuckwagon), b) the game sucks, or c) both. On the other hand, a lot of games are a lot more desirable to most people than any of these, but they're quite common. When coming up with a list like this, you're obviously trying to find the balance of games that are ultra-desirable and at least fairly rare - but then I don't think the intro of this list (where the rarity alone is hyped) is all that descriptive of what the list really represents.
If I sound overly analytical, it's because I am one of these collectors myself. When deciding how much is a fair price for a game you really, really want that you know you'll probably never see again, these are the kinds of questions you mull over.
As far as PC games go... no way Zork, Wolfenstein, Leisure Suit Larry or any number of other games I've seen mentioned here are in the same league as a game like Chase the Chuckwagon in terms of rarity. These games were on regular store shelves for years and hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people bought them. All of my friends had them, and I still have them. They're obviously somewhat rarer *now* than they were at the time - but think about it. Chase the Chuckwagon was rare when it was produced (and by "rare" I mean you could not ever walk into a store and buy it, you could not and cannot find it at flea markets or garage sales, you cannot find it online). Just imagine how rare it is now 20 years later.
Regardless, "rare" PC games are generally not nearly as collectible as console games because they're not as much of a commodity. I've never personally seen anyone pay $500 or even $200 for a rare PC game, although it's possible someone has at some point. -
Re:Its all about ease
Merry Christmas Sir.
Here's something so much better.
Let me cite the link for the less click-happy of the readership.
P4 2.4 GHZ
512 Megs Ram DDR-333
80 gig HD
DVD 16X
CDRW 48X
without shipping its $779
With its $838
little less that a thousand, but we can still see that it costs leaps and bounds more than a console.
But I would rather play new demos for free than have to save up for a new game (dont start with Blockbuster, I will never pay to try a game)
Of course, I love computers more as a MP3/DVD/ONLINE GAMING machine because the options are so much better for the PC. Thats why it costs a freaking huge amount. -
Re:Hard to find toys?
And a few guys I talked to didn't even know what the hell they were
Hurry up and educate them!
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They sell EVERYTHING on ebay
If you're having problems finding it in a brick and mortar, buy it on ebay. Trust me, if it exists you can find it on ebay eventually. I'm positive that something as common as a kaleidoscope will be available on ebay. Here are 544 listing on ebay right now... It shouldn't be a huge surprise that some things go out of fashion for a while.
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Re:Offtopic, Yes, But...
They have a list of authentic eBay URLs here.
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Re:What?Sounds like they've mentioned it on the website to me.....
Have you tried to find it on their website? Check their front page. Nothing there. How about under "help?" Nope. Maybe under "SafeHarbor (Rules & Safety)" - sounds promising. Nothing there either.
I search for a couple of minutes and didn't find it. Do you think someone not even looking for it would find the warning?
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Re:I hate to be a nay-sayer ...
Understand that these 'screen savers' really don't save your screen, current monitors die before any real burn in happens, but that is a different story.
I've seen a lot of people say this, but I spent some time researching used monitors, and I've found that burn-in is still a problem even on newer monitors. Here is an example.Or read the last FAQ on this page.
I'll admit the problem has mostly (but not entirely) gone away with newer technology, but it is still worth running a screen saver/blanker and/or enabling the power saver mode to keep your monitor working it's best.
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Re:TiVo 2 vs. the spirit of CopyLeft & HDTVThat is only 4 years away! Why would anyone want to pay at least $200 + $250 subscription for a total of $450 on something that the NTSC tuner can't be replaced in??
Well as someone who just bought one of these outdated Tivo Series 2, I went ahead and purchased the lifetime subscription. All you need to do is go over to Ebay and search for "tivo lifetime." You will see a bunch of series 1 tivos going for $300 to $500. So a couple of years from now, selling my tivo for $300 seems like a good deal to me. Plus, I usually don't keep hardware for more than a 2 years with the exception of my TV. I don't think anyone is worried about HDTV considering 1/2 of the United States was suppose to have it by now, yet I don't get any HDTV feeds unless I get directv which my landlord will not allow. Even then, its only a few channels.
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Re:What?
It's tough to find, but here's the warning:
Some members have reported attempts to gain access to their personal information through email solicitations that are falsely made to appear as having come from eBay. These solicitations will often contain links to Web pages that will request that you sign in and submit information. At eBay, we identify these as 'spoofed' emails or Web sites.
We encourage you to be very cautious of emails that ask you to submit personal information such as your credit card number or your eBay password.
To be sure that you are signing into a genuine eBay Web site, look at the Address/Location area of your browser. At an eBay.com sign-in or log-in page, the URL (link) that appears in the Address/Location area of your browser will begin with "http://cgi.ebay.com/" or "http://scgi.ebay.com". Please pay close attention to all characters in the address, including the forward slash (/) that follows "ebay.com". Even if the Address/Location includes the word "ebay", it may not be a genuine eBay Web site. If you receive or suspect you have received such an email, do not respond to it or click the links. Immediately send a copy of it to spam@ebay.com.
If you have any doubt as to whether or not the website you are on is an official eBay web page, please visit our Account Security page for more complete information on the URLs used on eBay web pages.
For more information on how to protect your eBay password and your account, click here.
Regards,
eBay -
ebay Response for 06-Dec-2002Here is the archived ebay response:
General Announcement Board
There may have been something else more specific on the main page, but this page is all that seems to be left.
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Shows.
No, no, you get fucked on the shipping if you use eBay. Go to your local computer chop shop, or (better yet) a computer show---Cogan Fairs in New England, for instance---and pick them up for one or two bucks each.
Though, a buck each, including shipping, ain't bad.
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Don't circumvent ebay's safeguards!Ebay has fraud protection program. Why didn't this guy go through them. Sure they're not going to go arrest the guy, but they'll certainly close him down on ebay. Even now he can get some of his money back from them... if it was an ebay transaction
For that matter if Mr. Christmas had done this a lot, why didn't the seller look at the buyer's feedback? Certainly if Mr. Christmas has been ripping people off the sellers would leave negative feedback.
Well, it turns out that videopro55 has no feedback!
Looking on ebay for the transaction turned up nothing either.
From a more careful reading of the story, I infer that the seller took it off of ebay and sold it privately. This was a bad idea. Yeah, you have to pay ebay a commission, but that's their business, and you wouldn't have sold it without them. It's also against ebay's seller policies to do this.
So while I'm really very sympathetic about this guy getting ripped off, I think he could have been a little smarter about it.
Lesson to all of us: Don't circumvent ebay's safeguards.
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Don't circumvent ebay's safeguards!Ebay has fraud protection program. Why didn't this guy go through them. Sure they're not going to go arrest the guy, but they'll certainly close him down on ebay. Even now he can get some of his money back from them... if it was an ebay transaction
For that matter if Mr. Christmas had done this a lot, why didn't the seller look at the buyer's feedback? Certainly if Mr. Christmas has been ripping people off the sellers would leave negative feedback.
Well, it turns out that videopro55 has no feedback!
Looking on ebay for the transaction turned up nothing either.
From a more careful reading of the story, I infer that the seller took it off of ebay and sold it privately. This was a bad idea. Yeah, you have to pay ebay a commission, but that's their business, and you wouldn't have sold it without them. It's also against ebay's seller policies to do this.
So while I'm really very sympathetic about this guy getting ripped off, I think he could have been a little smarter about it.
Lesson to all of us: Don't circumvent ebay's safeguards.
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Don't circumvent ebay's safeguards!Ebay has fraud protection program. Why didn't this guy go through them. Sure they're not going to go arrest the guy, but they'll certainly close him down on ebay. Even now he can get some of his money back from them... if it was an ebay transaction
For that matter if Mr. Christmas had done this a lot, why didn't the seller look at the buyer's feedback? Certainly if Mr. Christmas has been ripping people off the sellers would leave negative feedback.
Well, it turns out that videopro55 has no feedback!
Looking on ebay for the transaction turned up nothing either.
From a more careful reading of the story, I infer that the seller took it off of ebay and sold it privately. This was a bad idea. Yeah, you have to pay ebay a commission, but that's their business, and you wouldn't have sold it without them. It's also against ebay's seller policies to do this.
So while I'm really very sympathetic about this guy getting ripped off, I think he could have been a little smarter about it.
Lesson to all of us: Don't circumvent ebay's safeguards.
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CrossPad?
About $50. No voice regonition, but everything else.
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Why not just sell your copy?A place I've done some consulting at has put Linux on all of their laptops (the desktops are in-house and ran Linux from the get-go). They peeled the "Sticker/Certificate of Authenticity" off of the bottom (using an X-acto knife) and are planning on sellingthe CDs and certificates on eBay. Totally legal, and they expect to get about 80% of the retail price of the software (which is a good bit of money). I bet it'd be even easier when the sticker/certificate is on a users guide and not on the case.
I don't know if anybody else has tried this, but it would be great to know if other people have had success.
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EBAY
for those who can't type, i've done it for you
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Re:DJsEbay
Sure, a pair might be a little more expensive than $250, but when you buy 1200's you know you're getting QUALITY. I got a pair of 1200's, 4 slipmats, with Groovemaster and $200 Shure carts for around $600 a few years ago... Aside from replacing the styli (cheap), they still work just like the day i got my hands on them. I haven't ever heard anyone talk about how durable their DJ CD players are.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to buy a pair of some nice cd players just for tracks I dont have on vinyl, but I would need about $1000 for some really nice ones.
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Call vendors...ask for demo units.
You have a couple of options -- you could just call the vendors and tell them that you're a VC funded software startup and you want to evaluate thair systems. They'll send you a demo unit, and you'll be able to build on their systems (for a short time). Sure, its dishonest, but I leave the ethics up to you. You could also tell them the truth -- maybe some of these struggling Unix vendors would give you a free workstation (or a deep discount on one) if you're selling 3rd party software that will enhance their platform (though its a longshot).
An alternative would be to start looking for ISP's who will sell you shell accounts on a month-to-month basis. If any of your employees are alumni of colleges and universities, some may still have accounts on legacy Unix systems...these may help too.
The downside of using shell accounts on other folks' systems for building commercial software is that you run the chance of building on inconsistent environments. This can lead to a host of problems that you will not want to deal with.
The final alternative is to go out and buy the systems (I recommend this one). It may be cheaper than you think...although the affordable systems may not be so cutting edge, I'd recommend eBay. There are tons of old SGI, HP-UX, Digital Unix, Sun, and AIX stations out there for very cheap...probably as cheap as a year's worth of shell hosting (and you'll own the machines). You'll also have the security of knowing that you're building on a "clean" environment.
I hope this helps!
-Turkey
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Call vendors...ask for demo units.
You have a couple of options -- you could just call the vendors and tell them that you're a VC funded software startup and you want to evaluate thair systems. They'll send you a demo unit, and you'll be able to build on their systems (for a short time). Sure, its dishonest, but I leave the ethics up to you. You could also tell them the truth -- maybe some of these struggling Unix vendors would give you a free workstation (or a deep discount on one) if you're selling 3rd party software that will enhance their platform (though its a longshot).
An alternative would be to start looking for ISP's who will sell you shell accounts on a month-to-month basis. If any of your employees are alumni of colleges and universities, some may still have accounts on legacy Unix systems...these may help too.
The downside of using shell accounts on other folks' systems for building commercial software is that you run the chance of building on inconsistent environments. This can lead to a host of problems that you will not want to deal with.
The final alternative is to go out and buy the systems (I recommend this one). It may be cheaper than you think...although the affordable systems may not be so cutting edge, I'd recommend eBay. There are tons of old SGI, HP-UX, Digital Unix, Sun, and AIX stations out there for very cheap...probably as cheap as a year's worth of shell hosting (and you'll own the machines). You'll also have the security of knowing that you're building on a "clean" environment.
I hope this helps!
-Turkey
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Call vendors...ask for demo units.
You have a couple of options -- you could just call the vendors and tell them that you're a VC funded software startup and you want to evaluate thair systems. They'll send you a demo unit, and you'll be able to build on their systems (for a short time). Sure, its dishonest, but I leave the ethics up to you. You could also tell them the truth -- maybe some of these struggling Unix vendors would give you a free workstation (or a deep discount on one) if you're selling 3rd party software that will enhance their platform (though its a longshot).
An alternative would be to start looking for ISP's who will sell you shell accounts on a month-to-month basis. If any of your employees are alumni of colleges and universities, some may still have accounts on legacy Unix systems...these may help too.
The downside of using shell accounts on other folks' systems for building commercial software is that you run the chance of building on inconsistent environments. This can lead to a host of problems that you will not want to deal with.
The final alternative is to go out and buy the systems (I recommend this one). It may be cheaper than you think...although the affordable systems may not be so cutting edge, I'd recommend eBay. There are tons of old SGI, HP-UX, Digital Unix, Sun, and AIX stations out there for very cheap...probably as cheap as a year's worth of shell hosting (and you'll own the machines). You'll also have the security of knowing that you're building on a "clean" environment.
I hope this helps!
-Turkey
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Call vendors...ask for demo units.
You have a couple of options -- you could just call the vendors and tell them that you're a VC funded software startup and you want to evaluate thair systems. They'll send you a demo unit, and you'll be able to build on their systems (for a short time). Sure, its dishonest, but I leave the ethics up to you. You could also tell them the truth -- maybe some of these struggling Unix vendors would give you a free workstation (or a deep discount on one) if you're selling 3rd party software that will enhance their platform (though its a longshot).
An alternative would be to start looking for ISP's who will sell you shell accounts on a month-to-month basis. If any of your employees are alumni of colleges and universities, some may still have accounts on legacy Unix systems...these may help too.
The downside of using shell accounts on other folks' systems for building commercial software is that you run the chance of building on inconsistent environments. This can lead to a host of problems that you will not want to deal with.
The final alternative is to go out and buy the systems (I recommend this one). It may be cheaper than you think...although the affordable systems may not be so cutting edge, I'd recommend eBay. There are tons of old SGI, HP-UX, Digital Unix, Sun, and AIX stations out there for very cheap...probably as cheap as a year's worth of shell hosting (and you'll own the machines). You'll also have the security of knowing that you're building on a "clean" environment.
I hope this helps!
-Turkey
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Call vendors...ask for demo units.
You have a couple of options -- you could just call the vendors and tell them that you're a VC funded software startup and you want to evaluate thair systems. They'll send you a demo unit, and you'll be able to build on their systems (for a short time). Sure, its dishonest, but I leave the ethics up to you. You could also tell them the truth -- maybe some of these struggling Unix vendors would give you a free workstation (or a deep discount on one) if you're selling 3rd party software that will enhance their platform (though its a longshot).
An alternative would be to start looking for ISP's who will sell you shell accounts on a month-to-month basis. If any of your employees are alumni of colleges and universities, some may still have accounts on legacy Unix systems...these may help too.
The downside of using shell accounts on other folks' systems for building commercial software is that you run the chance of building on inconsistent environments. This can lead to a host of problems that you will not want to deal with.
The final alternative is to go out and buy the systems (I recommend this one). It may be cheaper than you think...although the affordable systems may not be so cutting edge, I'd recommend eBay. There are tons of old SGI, HP-UX, Digital Unix, Sun, and AIX stations out there for very cheap...probably as cheap as a year's worth of shell hosting (and you'll own the machines). You'll also have the security of knowing that you're building on a "clean" environment.
I hope this helps!
-Turkey
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Call vendors...ask for demo units.
You have a couple of options -- you could just call the vendors and tell them that you're a VC funded software startup and you want to evaluate thair systems. They'll send you a demo unit, and you'll be able to build on their systems (for a short time). Sure, its dishonest, but I leave the ethics up to you. You could also tell them the truth -- maybe some of these struggling Unix vendors would give you a free workstation (or a deep discount on one) if you're selling 3rd party software that will enhance their platform (though its a longshot).
An alternative would be to start looking for ISP's who will sell you shell accounts on a month-to-month basis. If any of your employees are alumni of colleges and universities, some may still have accounts on legacy Unix systems...these may help too.
The downside of using shell accounts on other folks' systems for building commercial software is that you run the chance of building on inconsistent environments. This can lead to a host of problems that you will not want to deal with.
The final alternative is to go out and buy the systems (I recommend this one). It may be cheaper than you think...although the affordable systems may not be so cutting edge, I'd recommend eBay. There are tons of old SGI, HP-UX, Digital Unix, Sun, and AIX stations out there for very cheap...probably as cheap as a year's worth of shell hosting (and you'll own the machines). You'll also have the security of knowing that you're building on a "clean" environment.
I hope this helps!
-Turkey
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I got mine on EBAY!
I got mine on EBAY already - haven't you?
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8-D
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Prices.
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Re:Spectrum Saturation?
Tell that to my cordless phone! I have 5 devices running on my 802.11b network and for one ifyou're on the phone at the computer you can watch your signal go all to hell. If you are near the microwave while it's on, your signal is shot to heck, and every once and a while the the phone nails the DSS of the WLAN and you get a loud static burst out of the earpiece.
My WLAN has also rendered my X10 cam useless.
This frequency does not 'play well with others'.
Can just imagine if a neighbor put up one of them omni's with the 1.2 watt kicker I saw on ebay up. It's probly take out 2.4 Ghz cordless phones for a block. I was thinking about it, but I'm sure that kit would guarentee me a visit from the FCC.
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Re:Used Equipment + OSS = Cost SavingsI saw somebody selling 50 Sun Sparc X terminal 1s on s Dutch auction this weekend. These things were being offered for $12.00 opening bid and nobody bid!
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Not to toot my own horn...
...but I offer my own Open Source Software CD to people at my school and recently on eBay. I used Slashdot's story a few months ago about what software for Windows to include on a CD-ROM to get about 666 MB worth of software.
First I gave out a few for free to friends. Then others that are in our computer science classes -- people I barely know -- started asking me for my "open" CD for the DJGPP compiler that's on it. My school uses the ancient Borland Turbo C++ 3.0, and DJGPP's IDE, RHIDE, emulates it very well -- a great alternative to paying $70 for the suite. So far a few tens of CDs were sold at my school and two online.
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My Alpha
I'm glad I got my Alpha when I had the chance, a 21066 chip on a Digital AXPpci 33 motherboard. Sure, it's not one of the fastest ones out there, but I paid $150 for it and it works fine with RH 6.something.
One of these days, I want to snatch up one of several Alpha's on eBay and they have some really nice ones for not much money at all.
For example at this auction, with 5 hours left (at the time I'm writing this) you can get a dual 533MHz Alpha with everything you need for $520, install an OS and you're ready to go. I'd only want to exchange the 6 4.3GB drives for bigger capacities. -
Re:Would Somebody Please. .
Ahem.....
click here -
Easy PC Disposal...
Easy PC dispoal: www.ebay.com. Sheesh, did California forget they had that?
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Re:Chicago Museum of Science and Industry
The old model railroad is on EBay. In pieces.
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Re:No stings necessary, just signs
I would therefore like to present my new invention, the Cell...er...Radio Boost...um...Zapper. Simply peel off the protective backing, and apply to the dash directly above your radio. The Zapping Technology (TM) uses a unique pattern of conductors that channel outgoing energy and dissipate it harmlessly. It will also be like having a FOUR FOOT ANTENNA on your car! I mean, it will protect your privacy in order to prevent others from spying on radio listening habits.
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CorrectionThere were a fair amount of other applications for Alpha-based NT boxes. If I remember correctly, MS SQL and Exchange both supported the Alpha platform. There also was a wide variety of other applications, from PTC's Pro/ENGINEER to the accounting package Great Plains Dynamics, that also supported the Windows NT Alpha platform. Microsoft even had Alpha native versions of Word and Excel 97.
Even if there was no native Alpha application, you could still install and run most x86 applications using DEC's FX!32 x86 emulator. It ran at about half the speed. But this is when DEC had 1 GHz Alphas -- about five years ago! The fastest processor from Intel was only about half that.
Having a dual-boot Alpha with NT and Digital UNIX was a real treat!
5 years ago, Intel had a goofy Pentium 150MHz and Alpha was at 400MHz (+200MHz in a quick fab core shrink). Alpha could've been at like you said 1ghz at the time if only they had the
.13 micron process then, but they made do with .35 micron process. Despite, age, the performance for Alpha is still excellent and a Pentium 3 1000MHz is *maybe* almost upto the quality of performance as a 500MHz Alpha (21164) that was so long ago created. It isn't necesarily about the CPU registers being 64bit; it is all to do with the platform's consistency. The memmory bus of a 5 year-old Alpha is 128bit while Penium 2 and Pentium 3 are still at only a 64bit memmory bus. Take into effect that the Alpha was always setting ontop of Intel's PCI technology: first Alphas were using 64bit PCI slots on 33MHz bus, and DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) always impressed everyone by implementing multiple independent dedicated PCI BUS(s) to minimize bottle-necks. The Alpha is *IMPRESSIVE* and AMD and Intel are only able to *LEARN* from this seamingly-ancient, yet high-tech, masterpeice so few people are willing to re-linquish on eBay and yahoo auctions.I must say that DEC's FX!32 is reason Alpha failed. Microsoft didn't implement Windows NT 4 on Alpha; DEC asked Microsoft if they would be allowed to port Windows NT to Alpha and Microsoft has nothing to do with the implementation other than Microsoft owns the code outright. Windows NT is not broken in any way other than the memmory addressing is not implemented as it should; it is true 64bit in *ALL* other matters and there is no emulation of any kind. As I was about to say, FX!32 is the reason Windows NT on Alpha failed...to an extent. Windows NT, though Microsoft didn't pay DEC for the port, and DEC donated their own resources to undergo the task, failed because of the general high cost of both Microsoft's service cost oof Windows NT on Alpha for being a smaller install base than x86, support response from Microsoft was *ALWAYS* behind schedule, and DEC's cost of creating the Alpha was always too high and passed onto the customer because DEC had difficulties receiving loans to offset cost to make Alpha more affordable to customers. Do you actually think Intel and AMD can make CPUs cheap? NO WAY! Intel and AMD had to hoof it with design shortcuts and slaughter independent developers with licensing fees; and GNU is quite hurting them, yet who cares now that hundreds of thousands of people can port software on x86 and Intel and AMD can benefit with small royalties and a software support base to ensure survival of x86. And to top it off, circuit fabrication has actually lowered in cost so much that they've SURVIVED the digital divide and are now in a point to sun-bathe on beaches of cheap silicon.
FX!32 is a tombstone of supporting a platform nobody understood. Just lately, linux and *GNU* (choke!gasp!) has allowed the Alpha, as well as the other niche platforms, to be supported through and through with excellence.
Microsoft, who are they in the Alpha world? Aren't they the people who constantly announce warnings about some sort of V-I-R-U-S getting those darn Pentium and Athlon computers?
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Re:Woohoo?
Great, now I've got to go buy an Ultra 60. Thanks for removing the illusion of unavailability I had going.
An ebay search for an Ultra 60 workstation turned up some promising results.
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Re:Woohoo?
Great, now I've got to go buy an Ultra 60. Thanks for removing the illusion of unavailability I had going.
An ebay search for an Ultra 60 workstation turned up some promising results.
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Re:And each time he needs more funding...
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Re:Who uses passport anyway
Except for a few select Microsoft sites which use it, (You really have the same thing for AOL), no site I have visited in the past 2 years has used Microsoft Passport (tm).
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-1: FunnylessSome people have the nerve to talk about the Alpha CPU... They just pull allegations out of the air and say the Alpha wasn't popular because it was too costly. Excuse me, friend? I own an Alpha and I traded them that useless golden calf for it! The Alpha is still ahead of it's time! When Intel produced the 233MHz Pentium, Alpha was ballet dancing to Alice In Chains at 600MHz. The Alpha was all about quality, the Pentium was all about affordability. Alpha was verry much backwards compatible with software just as well as X86's only in a sense that the Circuits simply got faster and only a few machine codes (PAL) were added and didn't overall destroy the backwards compatibility.
Then you people pull another nugget of Balmer's shit out of your Microsoft'en assholes saying, again, the Alpha is too expensive. Go visit eBay: you can still buy that 4 year old 164LX / 164UX / AlphaServer for... $500.00.
GADZOOKS! For being 4 years old, maybe you're right!
Maybe that explains why so many people are relunctant to upgrade...it's already faster than a Pentium 4 or Athlon rated at 2,000MHz. Alpha is such a well-designed architecture and Processor.