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Examining a Tablet PC

Mister Buttons writes "There really haven't been any real technical reviews of the new Tablet PC operating system from Microsoft yet. Those marketing stories published on CNET and the like do little more than whet the appetite. Luckily it looks like someone finally took a close look at the Tablet PC. The folks over at AnandTech have a good tablet PC review up which includes information on both the hardware and software that the tablet PCs use. Maybe it's time to break open that piggy bank..."

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  1. That was quick by Malicious · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm surprised that it took the /. community this long to get their hands on one of these. Now how long till we see a tablet build of linux?

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    1. Re:That was quick by goldspider · · Score: 1

      Every review I have read about these Tablet PC's suggests that they are a nice in a gadgety kind of way, but not exceptionally useful. How would a Linux Tablet make such a device more valuable to the target consumer?

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    2. Re:That was quick by rosewood · · Score: 2

      Easy: Quickly improve the software. The hardware is very solid with just a few considerations (like power, heat). So, a better software package could make the day.

    3. Re:That was quick by goldspider · · Score: 1

      I wasn't really referring to the usefullness of the software; more like the device itself. From what I know of these things, there are already technologies available that do what these Tablet PCs can do (just not necessarily in a single device), so when I refer to usefullness, I'm referring to meeting a business requirement that hasn't yet been fulfilled.

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    4. Re:That was quick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, blow it out your ass. Linux software is no where NEAR the capabillities of the Windows HW recognition. If there were such a project, I'd give it 10 years MINIMUM.

    5. Re:That was quick by Mikeytsi · · Score: 1

      That's because the reviews are being written by people that are out of the target demographic. Tablet PC's are for people that want to transcribe notes directly to PC during meetings, so they don't have to rewrite the minutes and such, and people that would like to do artwork on the go. Graphic artists and such are drooling over these things, since they can do art ANYWHERE.

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  2. Not for me by Quasar1999 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can't see myself playing a first person shooter on this thing... Or a racing game... Heck, this thing just doesn't lend itself to games.... And that means that there is no reason for people like me (who make up most of the 'blow lots of money on new toy' market) to buy these things.

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    1. Re:Not for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sorry, but I think that the business sector spends *way* more money on "blow lots of money on new toy" than individuals ever will.

      Plus, it would appear to me (via all of the marketing that I've seen so far), that the Tablet PC is definately a business PC--not a home PC.

    2. Re:Not for me by youngerpants · · Score: 1

      I agree totally. I have already tried a wireless browser/ mail solution (IPAQ) and that was OK.

      To be honest, if I were to buy one of these I'd configure it to be a universal remote control for the house and I'd have to mothball the PDA, that would be about it.

    3. Re:Not for me by youngerpants · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've just changed my mind... what if you can skin it to LCARS (star trek OS)

      Now I'm sold

    4. Re:Not for me by BluGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, you're on /., so you must use your PC for something else other than games. Early adopters aren't always game-playing kids with cash to blow. Many of the (including myself) actually see things like Tablet PCs have a productivity advantage over a laptop. Carrying my laptop around all day is a hassle. If I had a tablet PC in my office, I could go from meeting to meeting, and not have to worry about missing an important email, have a presentation available to show to anyone I happen to bump into in the hall way, etc. Laptops are a pain to carry around, they are exactly the most ergonomic things around, and taking notes on them sucks. So there you.

    5. Re:Not for me by hermescom · · Score: 3, Interesting
      OK, so all the reflex-requiring games are obviously out of the question here... But I think I'd enjoy playing a nicely paced RPG or a traditional adventure game on this thing while sitting somwhere in a nice and cosy armchair.

      And it's probably awesome for those long hours of turn-based strategy gaming. A game of CIV3 anyone?

    6. Re:Not for me by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 4, Informative

      And that means that there is no reason for people like me (who make up most of the 'blow lots of money on new toy' market) to buy these things.

      Well, I am one person (IT guy) at a small-mid size company. I have a small budget to see if it is useful. If it is, then I will be purchasing 45 of them. We have 4 gamers in the company, if all four of them buy one they will come close to my sample budget. I think the math escapes you or you use cheat codes with your statistics.

    7. Re:Not for me by NeuroManson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ummm, what? Tablet PCs have USB support (and some even come with keyboards). You just plug in a mouse and keyboard and you're good to go.

      Judging from the specs on one I've examined, the Tablet PC DOES suffer graphics performance wise, but give it time, since we're talking a whole new version of an old concept. How long did it take for mainstream high end 3D to make it to the laptop? If you look around, you'll note it took almost 15 years.

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    8. Re:Not for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How long did it take for mainstream high end 3D to make it to the laptop?

      dont know.. it still isnt available...

      I cant buy a laptop with a geforce 4 in it.. let alone a old geforce 3 or even a lowly geforce 2.

      the chipset's in these laptops completely and utterly suck compared to an old Geforce 2.

      so to answer your question...... It still hasn't .

    9. Re:Not for me by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Many of the (including myself) actually see things like Tablet PCs have a productivity advantage over a laptop."

      I know a LOT of people out in the art world just *aching* to try Photoshop on one of these.

    10. Re:Not for me by Quasar1999 · · Score: 2

      I've just changed my mind... what if you can skin it to LCARS (star trek OS)

      You call yourself a Star Trek fan? LCARS is the Star Trek UI, not OS... sheesh...

      What next? Are you going to compare anti-neutrinos to anti-tachyons? Refute the warp 10 speed barrier with some whacked out trans-warp space folding argument?

      I thought not. :P

      and on a totally offtopic (as if this post wasn't off topic enough), What marketing genius would say 'as good as star wars' in a commercial for Star Trek:Nemesis? Piss off as many die hard fans as you can Paramount!

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    11. Re:Not for me by gaff2k · · Score: 1

      Mainstream 3d has really only been around for 4 years or so, so it's not really correct to say it took 15 years.

      Highend 3d is more like the nVidia Quaddro or 3d Labs cards, and I'm pretty sure it'll be a long time before you see pro3d cards that perform that much better than the consumer level cards in laptops.

      I'm not sure why this post has been marked 'insightful'.

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    12. Re:Not for me by stubear · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I'm one of them. I think I'm going to wait for the next gen of the TabletPCs though. My brother bought one and while he said it's very cool he doesn't think the power and battery life are enough to run something like Photoshop for an extended period of time. Alias|Waverfront's Sketchbook Pro might be a bit better because it was designed to run on the TabletPC and it might consume less power but I think I'll wait all the same.

    13. Re:Not for me by Eight+01 · · Score: 2, Informative

      What will your company use them for? I'm curious about real-world use of these, since handwriting would seem to hurt productivity too much for any non-field application. A PDA would seem much better for any roaming application such as environmental monitoring, package tracking, etc.

    14. Re:Not for me by briancnorton · · Score: 2
      What productivity advantage do you see over a laptop? I'm curious about this also. The ability to use a pen as an input device is no more efficient than a keyboard, and can introduce a lot of error. If it's size, have you tried small laptops (I have a 2.4 lb Fujitsu Lifebook P that is cheap, fast, and the battery lasts forever.)

      The one idea I did think of was mounting one on the front of a segway to act as auto-pilot and so you could use the internet while being driven to work.

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    15. Re:Not for me by Mr+Teddy+Bear · · Score: 1

      either on the left of the cursor (for right handers) or left of the cursor (for left handers) (from the article)

      Now this is just funny... typical Microsoft style hehehe... either on the left or on the left. LOL

    16. Re:Not for me by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

      going to all these meetings is productive?

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    17. Re:Not for me by Strog · · Score: 1

      Have you even looked around?

      You can get the Geforce2go chipset in a bunch of laptops. Go for the higher GeForce4(TM) 440 Go which is in the Geforce 3 range for performance

      If you are an ATI fan then you can get a laptop with a Radeon 7500 or Radeon 9000.

      Maybe these are a little behind the cutting edge but these are all decent 3d cards. It's all better than the Cirrus Logic and others that older laptops have had for a while now.

    18. Re:Not for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Save your money and buy the Wacom integrated display/drawing tablet and plug it into your current machine.

    19. Re:Not for me by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 2

      What will your company use them for?

      Don't know that we will, we will be investigating their use.

    20. Re:Not for me by Mikeytsi · · Score: 1

      Look at the ads for these things. Obviously they're not trying to sell them to YOU. It's not a damn gaming system. That's why they call it a "tablet pc", not a gaming pc.

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    21. Re:Not for me by zuzzabuzz · · Score: 0

      The guy from Penny Arcade got an Acer tablet. He said he likes it, but misses the ability to use keyboard shortcuts in Photoshop. I tried the Alias Sketchbook on my PC, and the menu system is a bit better for that sort of thing.
      Do these things take USB keyboards? I would use one if I had the option to attach a keyboard sometimes (and the $$$ to buy one)

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    22. Re:Not for me by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 2

      "Save your money and buy the Wacom integrated display/drawing tablet and plug it into your current machine."

      You mean the $3,600 device that must remain tethered to my computer?

    23. Re:Not for me by debber · · Score: 1

      If you don't wanna miss a mail during a meeting, then your wireless pcmcia card is missing from your portable.

      But I would like a tablet pc as a mega remote for my home pvr-mp3-storage-internet server :)

    24. Re:Not for me by Akilesh+Rajan · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps something like the $24.99 Jamstudio 7x5-inch USB/Serial Graphic Tablet with Software

    25. Re:Not for me by NeuroManson · · Score: 2

      Simply put, high end video back in the day (eg; 1995-1998) is now mainstream video. Anyone who looks up the history of 3D/2D accelerators will note this. Similarly, S3 and SIS graphics chips are slowly being phased out by Geforce2 and Radeon mobile graphics chips in preferred laptop configurations. Both of which would have cost a small fortune 7 years back, if they were available (case in point, 3DFX hardware, which often ran in the $300+ range, but could hardly compete with Nvidia's low cost approach as PC gaming became more 3D oriented and budget/DIY systems became more commonplace).

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  3. Re:damn by tomhudson · · Score: 1, Funny

    Relax. Take two tablets and call me in the morning ... :-)

  4. what about caplets by J.Stattlemeyer · · Score: 1, Funny
    and capsules? will they make an oral suspension computer?

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    1. Re:what about caplets by Mononoke · · Score: 5, Funny
      and capsules? will they make an oral suspension computer?
      Would you like to try this one as a suppository?

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    2. Re:what about caplets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Microsoft Anal Suppository PC, perhaps?

    3. Re:what about caplets by NeuroManson · · Score: 1

      I thought Microsoft OSes were ALREADY suppositories. About the size of a Buick, but then again, that's what doctors mean when they say "You're going to feel a little discomfort.".

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  5. Overhyped? by Nevermore-Spoon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Does anyone else out there have the same feeling I do, that the Tablet PC is over hyped? The only tangible benefit I can really see is totally comfort motivated. The laptop has never been that comfortable to work on sitting on the couch. The tablet PC would make such computing more comfortable. However when it really comes down to using my PC I really prefer a keyboard over a pen & screen combo.

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    1. Re:Overhyped? by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      The only tangible benefit to leather seats with built-in ass warmers is comfort oriented, and yet people pay a few thousand on top of the cost of a new vehicle to get 'em.

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    2. Re:Overhyped? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      However heated seats don't change a car on a fundemental level, tablet PC's on the other hand are fundementally different from laptops

    3. Re:Overhyped? by Meddel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      >> However when it really comes down to using my PC I really prefer a keyboard over a pen & screen combo.

      Why on earth would you have to choose pen and screen if you're doing something where a keyboard is better? Sounds like a convertible Tablet is right up your alley: completely normal laptop keyboard, high-end laptop specs, and you can rotate the screen into Tablet mode if you like.

      The fun of my Tablet is that I can take notes (I'm a CS student, being able to make diagrams in my notes is key), but that if I want to type an email, I rotate the keyboard into view and *type it*.

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    4. Re:Overhyped? by JordoCrouse · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only tangible benefit I can really see is totally comfort motivated. The laptop has never been that comfortable to work on sitting on the couch.

      As usual, Microsoft is taking a nitch and trying to cram it down Joe Sixpack's throat.

      I see thousands of uses for a tablet PC - virtual clipboards for loading dock workers, easy access to databases for doctors, ordering tablets for fast food workers, survey workers at the mall, the list goes on...

      But I don't think that this is some sort of thing that your average Circuit City consumer will immediately go out and buy, unless of course, they are geeky and want as many computerish toys as possible. Like you said, its not convienent, but most importantly, it doesn't scratch an itch, so to speak. The biggest question Microsoft (and anyone else who wants to sell one of these tings) is: What can a tablet PC for me do that a regular PC cannot?

      In short, I don't think the Tablet PC is over hyped, its just being sold to the wrong people.

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    5. Re:Overhyped? by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you're right. Microsoft is doing its damndest to convince us that we need this, without really explaining why. (The reason why is simple. Microsoft needs a new source of cash, but don't tell them I told you!) The best-written review of a Microsoft TabletPC can be found here. It's based on real-life impressions with one of these things.

      Then again, if Apple came out with one I'm sure reviewers would be falling all over themselves to praise it, because (a) it would be more polished, (b) Apple doesn't telegraph its punches, so you don't get disappointed when it DOES arrive, and (c) Apple still enjoys an image of coolness and scrappy underdogness*.

      *is that a word? Well, it is now...

    6. Re:Overhyped? by overunderunderdone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe then again it IS a new form factor for the PC - A stylus is NOT that good of an input device for most applications*, so it's basically a computer for applications that are mostly about output - accessing existing information. Surfing the web, watching DVD's, listening to music, using as an oversized PDA. But more and more PC's are being used as a way to simply access data rather than to input or manipulate data so perhaps such a machine will find a market.

      * One exception, tablets are great for artists, actually drawing on the screen would be cool. Wacom has a pressure sensitive tablet w/LCD screen (as well as a TabletPC). The problem I noticed playing around with it was that there was a delay between what you did and what happened on the screen. So the "paint" was following along a bit behind what you are doing - you don't notice this when the tablet and the screen are seperate but it is very noticable and distracting when you are drawing right on the screen. I played around with one a while ago so maybe advances in technology have advanced to where this is no longer such a big problem.

    7. Re:Overhyped? by digerata · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I believe the technology from laptops and tablets is going to merge. When you look at a tablet, there is nothing fancy about it other than its thin form factor and the fact that you can write on the screen.

      There will be a nice median where these are successful. The tablet that has the keyboard that folds around to the back just like a notebook will be king. You have the best of both worlds at that point. A standard laptop, and the form factor of a tablet pc when you need it.

      The most revolutionary item is the fact that you can write on the screen. Too bad tablets weren't the originator of that idea. So the whole thing is really an evolution of the laptop from way back when it was just a 50 pound PC with a handle.

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    8. Re:Overhyped? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, until Apple "invents" one. Then it will instantly be labeled the greatest innovation ever.

    9. Re:Overhyped? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A fair review of a MS product from the register? Are you fucking serious, because if you are then they're throwing snow balls in hell right now. WTF a pig just flew over my roof!

    10. Re:Overhyped? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2
      I recall reading on some site (/.)? about a year+ ago that MS was working on the tablet PC, and that we would get a first hand example of how the marketing engine at Microsoft works. A product in search of a market. Slow ramp up of hype, a few prototypes leaked at shows, and then the big explosion of advertising.

      I have yet to see what the Tablet PC does that hasn't already been addressed by another product, in many cases better. (ie. the Newton's handwriting recognition. Beos' BeIA wireless Webpad prototype.

      I think that tech for the sake of tech is by definition - overrated. Some things are cool indeed, others are just depending on Madison Avenue to get you to want them.

      I have yet to see much tech that would be useful beyond 'status' to most people.

    11. Re:Overhyped? by quintessent · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I really prefer a keyboard over a pen & screen combo.

      So do I, unless I'm doing something like taking notes in class, where I'd like to be able to easily draw diagrams and make other marks that a keyboard isn't good for. This is where I'd really like to have one.

    12. Re:Overhyped? by Bobartig · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Then again, if Apple came out with one I'm sure reviewers would be falling all over themselves to praise it

      But even if they have a good product with good reviews, when market adoption is slow, the doomsayers will all point to it and say "look, they just spent x $100 million on this thing, and it's not doing well, I predict they go out of business in 18 months.. yadda yadda"

      Personally, I'd love an apple tablet, since slouching in the couch with my tibook is just a bit awkward. But another computer, just for *slouching*?

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    13. Re:Overhyped? by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 2

      The only tangible benefit I can really see is totally comfort motivated.

      Look to see one mounted on an upright forklift, they are perfect.

    14. Re:Overhyped? by n8willis · · Score: 2

      Overhyped? No way. This new form factor is totally going to replace The Cube.

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    15. Re:Overhyped? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Does anyone else out there have the same feeling I do, that the Tablet PC is over hyped? The only tangible benefit I can really see is totally comfort motivated."

      Hey now, Geordi LaForge maintained the starship Enterprise with these things. Overhyped indeed!

    16. Re:Overhyped? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 2

      "Then again, if Apple came out with one I'm sure reviewers would be falling all over themselves to praise it..."

      Perhaps, but that doesn't mean people would scramble to buy one. To tell you the truth, I think it'd be a big flop for Apple. People tend to buy stuff like PCs based on their potential, not based on what they can do today. Lots of PC users see Apple as cool, but they'd be missing a lot. Imagine trading in your camera for a B&W camera with twice the pixels. You'd sit there wondering if the loss in color would bite you later even though the extra pixels do exactly what you need it to.

      Something like this *must* run Windows.

    17. Re:Overhyped? by Helter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A LOT Of tech is completely useless to most people. It's that silent minority for whom it IS useful that they design for.

      By your rationale microwave communications dishes are tech for the sake of tech too.

    18. Re:Overhyped? by dr_canak · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here at the hospital i work at, we've been using remote p.c. appliances for some time. The great advantage here is that (on our spinal cord unit), nursing and physician staff can walk into a patient's room, check the patient's chart, vitals, lab results, medications, imaging, etc... right there in the patient's room. We can also write orders, fill prescriptions (with the help of a bar coder reader attached to the unit) with a much lower error rate. Given the volume of information to which you want and need access, PDA's just don't cut it. And yes, you can put a laptop on a cart and wheel the cart around, but tablets make things much more efficient. I know this is a niche industry, but in medicine, units like this really help productivity and quality of care.

    19. Re:Overhyped? by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      I tried one at Compusa this weeked.

      I was unimpressed by the stylus interface and how slow it did handwriting to text.

      The price was a bit high I though as well.

    20. Re:Overhyped? by zbuffered · · Score: 2

      What about a regular laptop, complete with keyboard, that also featured this touch-screen sensitivity? I'd go for that...

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    21. Re:Overhyped? by zsmooth · · Score: 2, Redundant

      It doesn't matter how good something is that MS puts out - the register will always hate it. It's in the water they drink over there or something. The Reg dropped all pretense of objectivity long ago.

    22. Re:Overhyped? by zome · · Score: 1

      right..but when it comes an open-book exam, I don't think your prof would let you carry it into the test room :-)

    23. Re:Overhyped? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, u didn't try those, the feeling with a pen is so crazy... so smooth...

      im sure lots applic/games are gonna rox on this platform... 3d and graphics are gonna be so nice with these...

      cheers!try it out for a real opinion!

    24. Re:Overhyped? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've heard most run too hot to sit on your lap.
      Will it run Linux? That is what I want to know.

    25. Re:Overhyped? by Quikah · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I see thousands of uses for a tablet PC - virtual clipboards for loading dock workers, easy access to databases for doctors, ordering tablets for fast food workers, survey workers at the mall, the list goes on...

      All of these uses would be better served with a cheaper more specialized device. It is insane to buy a full blown PC for doing a single task.

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    26. Re:Overhyped? by quintessent · · Score: 2

      That would be nice, if it wasn't too awkward to draw on.

    27. Re:Overhyped? by edbarrett · · Score: 1
      Then again, if Apple came out with one I'm sure reviewers would be falling all over themselves to praise it

      Apple will never release a tablet anything, because people will immediately start bitching about how the first round of Newtons were crap.

      You have a better chance of the iWalk being real than Apple does of releasing a PDA.

    28. Re:Overhyped? by stubear · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wacom doesn't have a TabletPC, they developed the Pen input for Windows XP Tablet PC Edition (hardware and software).

    29. Re:Overhyped? by jarodss · · Score: 2

      How about one of these?

    30. Re:Overhyped? by tburkhol · · Score: 1
      Does anyone else out there have the same feeling I do, that the Tablet PC is over hyped? The only tangible benefit I can really see is totally comfort motivated.

      I can imagine using a tablet PC just like a lab notebook. With wireless networking and lab procedures online, you could carry a tablet around the lab, keep procedures in front of you and even update a central database of notes. Add a barcode scanner and you facilitate keeping track of samples. Tablet PCs definitely have a lot of promise in that setting, though they're probably of more limited value to people who don't move around every 5 minutes.

    31. Re:Overhyped? by bay43270 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What can a tablet PC for me do that a regular PC cannot?



      A better question - what can a notebook do that a tablet PC cannot? The writable screen only adds $200 to the price of a laptop. Why not replace all but the low end laptops with tablet PCs? So what if Joe 6 pack doesn't see the need yet? They'll understand it when they start using it. No one wanted the minivan either!
    32. Re:Overhyped? by zsmooth · · Score: 2

      If you had read the article, you would know that there are 2 kinds of tablet PCs:

      - slate: includes no keyboard and is completely display driven
      - convertible: which is exactly what you described that will be 'king'.

      The advantages/disadvantages of both are obvious. Slates are thinner and lighter, convertibles have a keyboard.

    33. Re:Overhyped? by overunderunderdone · · Score: 1

      My bad I just saw that link under their "products" section and didn't read it through.

    34. Re:Overhyped? by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      That's underdogedness.

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    35. Re:Overhyped? by Paul+Komarek · · Score: 2

      My wife's tablet is less comfortable when sitting on the couch than my laptop. However, the tablet is much easier to read from when laying down or walking.

      -Paul Komarek

    36. Re:Overhyped? by falzer · · Score: 1

      Yes. That'd be better than lugging a wacom tablet or something around with your laptop, if you wanted the best of both worlds.

    37. Re:Overhyped? by HamNRye · · Score: 2

      Naw, I want one... With wireless in the office, this would be too incredible. The only thing is this: How would it interact with a terminal window. I'm not about to tap in "xp21_verify -s images@images1 -n FN" all day long.

      But hey, as a mobile tech taking notes, getting help desk reports, etc... I can see where this would be mega handy.

      My $0.02

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    38. Re:Overhyped? by HamNRye · · Score: 2

      Oh, Yeah, they're expensive as all get out. Now I can see why this is overhyped....

    39. Re:Overhyped? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it looks like the FIC slate version (not convertible) of the tablet is going to be about US $1,500... That's about where you go for 1-1/2 times the price of a regular PC (with LCD)

      I agree and believe this is for the workplace to fill the gap between people who need PDA's or laptops. Why the heck would you want to play 3d intensive games on it (or even a notebook for that matter) I don't understand.

      This is clearly a Solitaire machine (ie meetings... imagine playing an FPS at a meeting you'd get fired unless you word for Id Software! ... Solitaire... you'd be ok)!

    40. Re:Overhyped? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wacom released an enhanced driver for the tablet PC that brings it up to par with the regular Wacom tablets in performance (and features)... incidentally, Wacom sells a variety of different stylus for these devices!

      With the enhanced driver it works the same on a variety of the Wacom tablet compatible programs as any other Wacom tablet does!

      I own an Art ZII Wacom Tablet... this might be an option for a portable device to sketch at design meetings and brainstorming sessions. It would be good, I imagine, to also sketch and plug the device in at a conference room video projector to share with the room. Cool for planning and design meetings I'd imagine.

    41. Re:Overhyped? by Kupek · · Score: 2, Informative

      I watched some of MS's propoganda for it, and seemed like they were selling it to office people, not Joe Sixpack.

      (Their propoganda worked on me, by the way. Any university student can easily see the benefit of one of these things.)

      What can a tablet PC for me do that a regular PC cannot?

      For me, that's simple to answer: I can't take notes with a regular PC, desktop or notebook.

    42. Re:Overhyped? by theedge318 · · Score: 1

      thats what aliases and scripting languages are for .. hell I wouldn't want to TYPE that all day long

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    43. Re:Overhyped? by ZvlvLord · · Score: 1

      >>
      Palm OS 200000 coders, in excess of 12000 apps. You're talking out of your ass...

    44. Re:Overhyped? by Sabriel · · Score: 2
      All of these uses would be better served with a cheaper more specialized device. It is insane to buy a full blown PC for doing a single task
      It is also insane to buy a dozen specialised devices for $20 each when you can buy one universal device for $120. Tasks don't exist in a vacuum; there's always more work to do! :)

      Sometimes specialised devices are better. But not always. Don't underestimate the economy of scale produced by mass manufacturing - especially not when it can be combined with the flexibility of modular software.

  6. Server /.ed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Luckily, I was able to capture the page with Microsoft Internet Explorer(TM) to post here:

    Action canceled

    Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable.

    1. Re:Server /.ed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course only Internet Explorer could manage to get the error message confusingly incorrect.

  7. Tablet vs Wacom by Nick+Harkin · · Score: 1, Troll

    I still don't see what the hype of a tablet PC is all about, for much less you can pick a a PC, or even a laptop and a Wacom Graphics tablet.

    well, i suppose its nice to see exactly what you are about to click on, but with a little skill, and co-ordinaton, the same can be achieved with a wacom, or copy of.

    Until they come down in cost, with handwriting reconition so good that i can scrawl quicker than i can type (which is very, very messy) i won't be bothering.

    Even graffiti on the Palms is hell-in-a-handbag to get used to, compared to typing. :)

    1. Re:Tablet vs Wacom by netsphinx · · Score: 1

      I have a Wacom 9x12 tablet. I use it on Mac and Wintel, and I love it for illustration, drawing, photoshopping, etc. I'd be in favor of a tablet screen (such as Wacom already makes, or like this tablet PC) anyway. A tablet takes up desk real estate, and my 'ergonomic' setup still makes my neck hurt. I have to have my eyes on the screen in front of me, my mouse (right) hand on the tablet, and my keying hand on the board. I'm a small person; this is a strain. I'd love to have my eyes where I'm working and get rid of the pain between right jaw and shoulder.

    2. Re:Tablet vs Wacom by rmohr02 · · Score: 2

      There's no way any handwriting recognition can allow me to scrawl faster than I can type. 100WPM is next to impossible with pen and paper.

    3. Re:Tablet vs Wacom by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I still don't see what the hype of a tablet PC is all about, for much less you can pick a a PC, or even a laptop and a Wacom Graphics tablet.

      Insightful?

      What are you going to do, walk around with it strapped to your leg?

      The entire point of the tablet pc is so you can use it standing or walking, situations where you can't easily open your laptop.

      In terms you might understand, it's the equivalent of having a clipboard and being able to jot notes and flip through pages of info. Yes, you can also use the clibboard on top of a desk, but that's not the idea- the idea is mobility.

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    4. Re:Tablet vs Wacom by praedor · · Score: 2

      Yes, you can also use the clibboard on top of a desk, but that's not the idea- the idea is mobility.


      Or...you can use the clipboard. It accepts handwriting input with 100% efficiency and no interpretation errors. It doesn't use any batteries, costs pennies on the dollar, is lighter, and the media is capable of lasting (in usable form) for literally 100s if not 1000s of years.


      Can a tablet PC do THAT?! Huh? Thought not.

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    5. Re:Tablet vs Wacom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It amazes me how anti-technology the "geeks" of slashdot seem to be when it comes to anything Microsoft. Your comment reeks of the people who were around when cars were invented who insisted that they weren't an improvement on horse and buggy transportation. "Why ride in one of those newfangled cars when a good horse and buggy does the same thing!"

      I simply won't believe that you can't see the difference between a clipboard and a networked digital note taking device.

    6. Re:Tablet vs Wacom by Captain_Jackass · · Score: 1

      Or...you can use the clipboard. It accepts handwriting input with 100% efficiency and no interpretation errors.

      That's because the interpretation errors come later. (At least with my handwriting.)

    7. Re:Tablet vs Wacom by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2
      Or...you can use the clipboard. It accepts handwriting input with 100% efficiency and no interpretation errors. It doesn't use any batteries, costs pennies on the dollar, is lighter, and the media is capable of lasting (in usable form) for literally 100s if not 1000s of years.

      Some of use want to run more apps than just the equivilant of Notepad.exe.

  8. One user's views on usability... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Informative
    Aside from the OS infesting it, Mike Krahulik/Gabe at Penny Arcade tried one out for doing his strip, here's a couple links:

    Scroll down to: Drawing on a Tablet PC

    Scroll down to Alias Sketchbook comment

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    1. Re:One user's views on usability... by Jason+Earl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Long story short. The Tablet PC completely replaced his sketchbook and pencil, but he still preferred to do the finish work on his normal PC (with a bigger monitor). Gabe liked the Tablet PC better than a laptop and a Wacom tablet. Here's a quote:

      The tablet PC takes the place of the sketchbook, not the canvas. Is it an expensive sketchbook? Yeah. But it's the only sketchbook I've seen that lets me check my mail and surf the web.

      Something tells me that most artists aren't going to be interested in a $2000 replacement for a sketchpad, pencils, and a scanner. Perhaps when these things become somewhat reasonably priced things will be different.

  9. First porting post! by NineNine · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Anyone know when a linux distro is gonna be available for these things?

    1. Re:First porting post! by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      linux distros like redhat and slackware have worked on tablet pc's for 3 years now.

      Hell I have 5 year old tablet pc that run's slackware fine.

      why would you think that something old like a tablet pc wouldn't have linux support?

      tablet pc's have been around for over 10 years.

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  10. Sorry to say. by FreeLinux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But, it looks really cool to me. I'd have to admit that MS has raised the bar with this OS. I wonder if the KDE team will show any interest in such things as the hand writing interface?

    1. Re:Sorry to say. by g4dget · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I'd have to admit that MS has raised the bar with this OS.

      I don't. It's just Windows XP with a few pen hacks added and a reasonable, but not overwhelmingly good connected handwriting recognition engine.

      Can Linux compete? Sure. It's had pen input for many years. You'll probably see good connected handwriting recognition for Linux before long as well.

    2. Re:Sorry to say. by ericdano · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doesn't Apple have something like this in OS X called Inkwell? Maybe Apple will join the fray in January with a tablet PC.

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    3. Re:Sorry to say. by mattyohe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Sorry to say But, it looks really cool to me" Thats really unfourtunate that the /. community is turning into a type of religion... making you feel guilty for enjoying a Microsoft product. Some of you say: "linux can compete with the tablet" ofcourse they can... but at this time.. Tablet PC is currently the only major product of its type. Find me a better laptop that swivels and is equipped with a digitizer. You won't be able to.

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    4. Re:Sorry to say. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm using one now, to type this on. Its a paceblade. Granted; they don't come preinstalled with linux. Thing is that the linux support is good, after you install it yourself; and the configuration panels (native KDE stuff) just looks nice :)

      And naturally its all open source!

  11. Tablet PC's by ccgr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've played with them at work. They have nifty features like voice dictation and handwriting recognition but they are about 85% accurate. It can even partially understand cursive! Very cute lil things but not quite there yet.

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    1. Re:Tablet PC's by jpmorgan · · Score: 2

      I've used them once or twice... the recognition rate improves a lot fairly quickly. I'm not sure whether it's the user adapting to the system or the system adapting to the user.

    2. Re:Tablet PC's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, In Soviet Russia Th*Blam BLAM Blam Blam Blam*

    3. Re:Tablet PC's by mattyohe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No. The software is not "learning" your handwriting. They found that by learning.. it ended up causing even worse recognition. Instead of "learning", Microsoft bought code from to companies that were working on this type of OCR, and combined their own code with them. I personally tried writting on one of these using the prodigal "Hello World" and it converted it to text very quickly. Then I wrote it again, but also adding twitching into the words... It still was able to read it. Very powerful software.

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    4. Re:Tablet PC's by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      I've played with them at work. They have nifty features like voice dictation and handwriting recognition but they are about 85% accurate. It can even partially understand cursive! Very cute lil things but not quite there yet.

      Sounds almost like one of the early descriptions I heard of the Newton.

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    5. Re:Tablet PC's by mattyohe · · Score: 1

      Well, its just another Tablet PC for the rest of us.

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    6. Re:Tablet PC's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Eat up Martha"?

    7. Re:Tablet PC's by ccgr · · Score: 1

      Yes it is powerful but if I had a choice to jot down notes fo a long meeting I would choose pen and paper over the tablet PC.

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    8. Re:Tablet PC's by mattyohe · · Score: 1

      Okay.. whats your reason?

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    9. Re:Tablet PC's by GarryOwen · · Score: 1

      Because it is Microsoft! Gees, you call yourself a slashdot reader?

      Everyone knows that the Newton had the best hand recognition software and everything else in the last 5 years has progressively de-evolved.

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  13. PDAs, Tablets, blah blah blah by ekephart · · Score: 0, Troll

    Who will buy these? Not me. I have no use for them. I have no use for PDAs either. Sure both are spiffy little toys but so what?

    A PDA is a glorified pen and planner at 20 times the cost. I imagine tablets will be the same. Take a look at a recent /. poll. They will be sexy when they run Linux? Only because then we /.ers will fall into the same consumer craze that everyone else already has. John Q Public likes a new toy, we like anything, especially new toys, with Linux. I'd rather buy an X-Box seeing as the last console I bought was an N64.

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    1. Re:PDAs, Tablets, blah blah blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A PDA is a glorified pen and planner at 20 times the cost.

      If PDAs were only 20X the cost of an 89 cent memo pad, I would have bought a case of them already.

      For the forseeable future, I expect my "PDA" to be the good old memo pad. If I need to keep something organized electronically, I'll just scan a page into my PC.

    2. Re:PDAs, Tablets, blah blah blah by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Who will buy these?

      Warehouses. Many processes in the warehouse are interrupted by leaving the "work area" (which might be a forklift, ladder etc...) to go use the computer. A tablet PC could be with the user instead of stationary. Interruptions of 2 or more minutes multiplied by pay rate and hundreds of employess = thousands of dollars in lost efficiency.

    3. Re:PDAs, Tablets, blah blah blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, let me know where you got that Franklin Planner that beeps to remind you of an appointment.

  14. Correct me if i'm wrong by smartin · · Score: 1, Redundant

    But it seems to me, from the couple i looked over at a local store, that tablets are really just nicely packaged laptops with touch screens. Since there seems to be such a variety of manufactures making these, hardware inteface must be reasonably well defined. It should be long before a real O/S is booted on one.

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    1. Re:Correct me if i'm wrong by SlaterSan · · Score: 1

      Actually they are not touchscreens. I'm pretty sure all of the screen / digitizer combos use magnetic sensing.

  15. Blatant karma whoring by _anomaly_ · · Score: 1
    it's pretty easy to tell that you were looking to be a karma whore... considering you didn't even notice that there were more pages to the story.

    for those who can't get to it, there are a total of 14 pages to this in-depth article. The text that was posted is just the first page, the introduction.

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    1. Re:Blatant karma whoring by aerojad · · Score: 1

      i was hoping to post the rest but then they wouldn't come up for me but go ahead and burn me at the stake.. geez

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  16. What would be the point? by jpmorgan · · Score: 1
    The hardware isn't anything all that innovative, the power comes from the software.... so removing the software and replacing it with something not designed to run a TabletPC would somewhat negate the point of buying one, wouldn't it?

    Seriously, the handwriting recognition is what makes the thing useful. They must have spent a lot of time working on it since IME from playing with the things, the handwriting recognition is way beyond anything else I've seen.

    Until someone writes comparable software, putting Linux on it moves it from being a paper replacement to just a laptop with a touchscreen.

  17. Drat by laughing_badger · · Score: 1
    I know I'm going to go out and buy one of these and I'm going to loath myself for using an MS product. Just being able to jot down notes in handwriting and keep the original somewhere while converting it to ASCII as well is going to be great. I'll probably get a lot of use from this at the gaming table and from surfing while watching TV.

    I really hope that someone does a Linux clone of this, but I doubt that a quality handwriting recognition package will come out of the open software world. Fingers crossed.

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    1. Re:Drat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why?

      go to ebay and buy a fujitsu point 510 for 1/5th the price and install linux on it and havethe EXACT SAME THING.

      Linux on tablet pc's has been around for nearly a decade. these are not new, they are NOT innovative.

  18. Textbook Replacement by iomud · · Score: 2

    It would be cool if there were a highly rugged inexpensive tablet that could replace textbooks. No need to worry about notes in the margins and the like.

    1. Re:Textbook Replacement by LinuxHam · · Score: 2

      I did some work testing some Linux-based tablets destined for school-aged kids (grade 3 and up) within the US's largest private school system. The tablets we were configuring and testing had built-in 802.11 and a CompactFlash socket. The plan was to publish school books as PDFs or eBooks each year and distribute a CompactFlash card to each kid each school each year instead of sending an 18-wheeler full of books.

      We actually met with most of the publishers to get them on board. We also met with some Office suite publishers to work on getting some features to automatically activate and deactivate based on whether or not the tablet was in or near the school. I liked it and thought it had a lot of potential. Too bad I couldn't snarf one at the end of the testing period :) I'd still be using it today..

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  19. Ink Balls by YAN3D · · Score: 1
    The game did prove to be entertaining and an interesting time waster but not much more than that.

    I've seen what most people use their PDA's for and believe me, Ink Ball is actually the main selling point.

  20. Does Anyone Here have A Real Job? by puto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suppose these days the majority of the posters are of university age or just the fact they might soley sit and code all day, do network support, or something desktop centric and thinks makes you somewhat of a computer purist.

    This thing will probably go gangbusters in the business world. Do I need to point out again they can use these things in hospitals, docs can carry them around and have instant access to patient data? You can't teach an old doc to type but you can teach him to point and click. Imagine all of the patients records for him to review right there, and also to digitally sign off on medications, release forms, paperwork? I worked in the medical IT in the mid to late 90's and we would have killed for this for our clients. AND our clients were always asking for this portability. You leave your office to do rounds of your hospital patients, you can have all of their records at your fingertips. Your staff can dump the records necessary and hand it to you. Plus keep your drug interaction software, E an M coding stuff. Scheduling, xrays. The screen is bigger than a pda, Doctors are gonna eat this alive.

    What inventory sytems. You are doing inventory and rely on a stock numner, you can carry one of this around with wand and it will show you the item as well as give you all the details.

    Companies can give these to employees so they can have access, to employee manuals, data, you name it. Much more portable than a lap top.

    Sales Departments can configure payments, interest options, the whole shebang, and then slide this sucker across the desk.

    Games? This aint for games. This aint for coding. This is for strict ease of use in certain apps. And I am sure if you sit down and put some thought into it you would come up withmany uses.

    I tested one and it recognized my chicken scrach, which my wife says could be confuse with Sanskrit.

    It is a good product and sad to say MS made it. IT is here now and has pretty damn good functionality for many things. Sure someone will hack up linux to run on it, more power to you. But in the business world you need what works NOW, not what will work, or what you can say can be made to work.

    We need to take over the Desktop, then move on. But to downplay something as usefuls as this with FUD from the OSS camp is just ridiculous.

    Anyone in IT who has been in it for more than 5 years, done heave support, and has had to be a solution provider will recognize this a a good item.

    Puto

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    1. Re:Does Anyone Here have A Real Job? by FurryFeet · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I'd love to see this used in medical environments...
      "Doctor? The patient on 313 is in shock... yeah, we followed your indications, 15 ml. of estricnin... What do you mean you wrote astrigent?".

      You can't teach old doctors to type, and you can't teach them to handwrite nicely. And you can't teach a Tablet to understand the infamous "doctor handwriting". /playful_troll

    2. Re:Does Anyone Here have A Real Job? by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2

      Patient needs a drug, doctor writes prescription, signs off on it, it gets uploaded to the pharmacy, they fill it, you pick it up. It saves them the time of calling it in, which means they can either concentrate on their patients more, or golf more, depending on your views of doctors.

    3. Re:Does Anyone Here have A Real Job? by Kupek · · Score: 1

      While I think it was implicit in your post, you still never said it: these scream to be a part of a wireless network.

  21. Tablet by aliusblank · · Score: 1

    I personally won't consider a tablet pc untill someone produces a *good* laptop/tablet hybrid. I would love the flexability of a tablet, but still have need for the functionality of a laptop, and the only hybrids I've seen so far have been marginal examples of either one. A foldout keyboard ala the sharp zaurus would ideal, provided it could swing out to assume the position of a normal keyboard. A solution such as that I would definatley consider, providing that the battery life was decent (~6 hours under light use).

  22. Tough luck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we get a refund for this version of windows as well?

    See what they say...

  23. It's all marketing by mao+che+minh · · Score: 2
    My father bought one of these and I, of course, had to help him set it up. After configuring it and playing with it for about an hour and a half, I can say this: it is nothing more then a really big Palm Pilot with laptop hardware and the attrocious Windows XP OS. And like a Palm, it only appears to recognize what you're writing 85-90% of the time.

    I don't know, I'm a Linux user that codes PHP as a hobby and still runs a P3 600, but my take on these tablet PCs is that they are for moms and dads that have money to blow and are easily drawn to shiny things.

  24. Fonts? by phorm · · Score: 1

    Yeah, getting it to recognise your/my handwriting might take awhile... especially when considering the time involved in getting a good font set in linux.

    Half the time it doesn't even print text nicely, how's it going to recognise it!

  25. Don't want to spend $1000+? Try a Progear! by Hollinger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Check out the SonicBlue ProGear. It's a Transmeta 400 Mhz CPU with 128 Megs of RAM, 5 Gig HD, WiFi, IR, and a touch screen. It comes in two flavors, Windows98, and a bastardized Linux (that can be replaced with your favorite distro). I've got one that currently runs Slackware 8.1, and I've heard of others that have RedHat installed.

    If you want to check out the "Progear Scene," head over to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progear/ to check otu the Progear User's Group. We've been hacking away at this thing for a a good six months (or so) now.

    <SHAMLESS PLUG>Check out www.mira2go.com to buy a PG for circa US$600.</SHAMLESS PLUG>

    1. Re:Don't want to spend $1000+? Try a Progear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, the problem with these is that SonicBlew sold them for $3000 last year. The whole reason that they're $600 right now is they aren't worth three grand. However, they ARE worth $600.

    2. Re:Don't want to spend $1000+? Try a Progear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out a review at Network Computing.

  26. Blatent Karma Whoring by SmirkingRevenge · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Page 1:

    Every few years a new electronic product comes along that promises to revolutionize the computing world. The past few years have seen everything from digital cameras to LCDs arrive in an attempt to change the way we use our computers. Obviously, some of these products are met with more success than others. For the most part, the success of these products is largely dependent on the backing of the product being announced. A truly revolutionary product may enjoy no market success without the funding and force necessary to ensure that the item both finds itself on the retail market and into the hands of consumers. At the same time, an inferior product may succeed wonderfully given enough funding. Getting the backing necessary to ensure a successful product launch is not the only roadblock in the way of success. In fact, even the backing of a major corporation does not always secure success. Take the Microsoft sponsored eBook "revolution" for example.

    You may recall the launch of Microsoft Reader a few years back. Touted as a new technology that could change the way we receive information, the launch of Reader was paired with the launch of dedicated reading devices. Called dedicated eBook readers, a number of companies entered this market including large brand names such as RCA. With Microsoft pushing the effort there was nothing to lose, right? Wrong.

    Sales of dedicated eBook readers were dismal right out the gate. It seems that the software giant had overestimated users' willingness to discard paper and ink for an LCD monitor and text. The poor sales trend continued, exemplified today by the lack of dedicated eBook readers on the market. Not only Microsoft was left to bear the consequences of the unsuccessful launch but so were the hardware venders who made products supporting the new software. Companies like RCA were left with a large inventory of unsold eBook readers which their were forced to let go at a fraction of their original price. This all goes to show that although money is important in a new product's success it is not the only factor.

    It has been four years since Microsoft first debuted Microsoft Reader software. Hoping to have learned from their past mistakes Microsoft is at it again, providing new software developed for new hardware. This time around Microsoft is suggesting you do something almost as drastic as throwing away your favorite book: it is now telling users to throw away their pen and paper and replace it with a Tablet PC. Launched less than a month ago, the Tablet PC "revolution" has drawn quite a bit of attention recently. The problem is that most of the information out there about Tablet PCs is very basic or just plain marketing hype. Today we solve that problem by taking an AnandTech look at Microsoft's latest operating system, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition, the various software solutions out there for the operating system, and the hardware that drives the software. Follow us as we discover if the Tablet PC is truly revolutionary or just another dedicated eBook reader.

    1. Re:Blatent Karma Whoring by santos_douglas · · Score: 1

      This is an excellent point. Microsoft has a long history of tenaciously chasing certain ideas even after repeated disastrous. This is only MS's second stab at this product, it will likely fail in the market, but they will continue to come at it because they believe this is the holy grail of personal computing for the masses, not that .1% of technical users represented here. Sales of regular PCs are stagnant, and making them faster or cooler is not going to help. Building a truly natural computer will likely be the next big jolt in the market. This definitely is not it, and it may not come for a long time, but it will eventually.

  27. Part 2 by SmirkingRevenge · · Score: 1

    Windows XP Tablet Edition
    The foundation behind every new Tablet PC on the market is Microsoft's newest operating system: Windows XP Tablet PC Edition. What are the differences between Windows XP Tablet PC Edition and the well known Windows XP Professional operating system? There actually are not that many.

    Windows XP Tablet PC Edition is based on Windows XP Professional, much like Windows XP Media Center Edition is. This means that Windows XP Tablet PC Edition maintains the full functionality of Windows XP Professional, including the advanced networking functions of the operating system. In fact, the majority of differences come with the software that the operating system includes, namely Microsoft Windows Journal, Microsoft Input Panel, and Microsoft Sticky Notes. We will get into detail about these applications in a moment but for now let's examine the operating system level differences between Windows XP Tablet PC Edition and Windows XP Professional, of which there is only one.

    Besides the bundled Tablet PC specific applications and tutorials, there is really one noticeable difference between Windows XP Tablet PC Edition and Windows XP Professional (besides the boot screen logo that is). That difference is the inclusion of a "Tablet and Pen Settings" icon in the control panel. Via this control panel. function, one can set the the tablet properties. A wizard actually runs after installation of the operating system to guide the user through setting the various tablet options, but the control panel option allows for easy control of the settings. A glimpse of this panel reveals the complex underlyings of the Tablet PC operating system.

    The first page of the settings dialogue box provides three tablet options. The first of the three allows the user to indicate whether he or she is left or right handed. How the tablet alters its recognition by knowing the user's hand preference is not something that Microsoft is willing to go into detail about, but the option does indicate that there has been a lot of fine tuning in the handwriting recognition software (which we will get to try out in just a bit). The second option on this page allows the user to set where pop-up menus are located. In a standard Windows XP Professional install, right clicking the mouse creates a menu that spawns to the lower left of the mouse cursor. In a tablet, this menu location would be fine for left handed users but right hand users would face the problem of having their hand cover up the newly spawned menu. This problem is solved by implementing a user selectable location of right click menus: either on the left of the cursor (for right handers) or left of the cursor (for left handers). The final option available on this page allows for calibration of the pen. Just like the PDA calibration screens you have probably seen, the Tablet PC is calibrated by clicking on a set of points indicated on the screen by X's.

    Click here to enlarge.

    The second tab in the Tablet and Pen Settings control panel allows the user to control the display of his or her tablet. On this tab the user can select the screen orientation (landscape or portrait) and the sequence which a hardware button changes the display orientation. In general we actually ended up using our tablet in portrait mode as opposed to landscape. We found this to be more conducive to taking notes and writing in the Tablet PC's interface as it more closely resembled a pen and paper in this mode. Portrait mode in most systems runs at 768x1024 while landscape runs at the customary 1024x768 resolution.

    Also in the display setting tab is a slider for screen brightness. Typically only available via function key combinations in notebook computers, this slider allows the user to set the screen brightness when plugged in and when on battery.

    Click here to enlarge.

    The final tab under the Tablet and Pen Settings dialogue box provides settings for pen options. Here a list of pen actions are listed along with their corresponding mouse functions, for example press and hold for right-click. In our test tablet we were not able to change any of these actions using the "Settings" option. Whether this is due to our specific build of Windows XP Tablet PC Edition (our unit came with an evaluation install of the operating system, not the full retail install) or a limitation in all Tablet PCs we do not know but should be able to report back about which is the case soon. Other pen options on this page include using the pen button for a right click and using the top of the pen to erase (both only work on supported pens).

    Click here to enlarge.

    Now would be a good time to briefly discuss how the pen input method on Tablet PCs operates. Unlike the PDAs that we are all used to, one need not touch the screen to move the mouse cursor in a Tablet PC. Hovering the pen input device above the screen about a quarter of an inch above the screen is all that is needed to move the pointer from one location to another. The pen need make contact with the screen only when doing functions other than moving the mouse, for example the pen is touched to the screen to left click, pressed and held on the screen for a right click, and pressed on continuously for writing.

    The pen on Tablet PCs operate in this fashion because it is more than just a piece of plastic like most styluses. The pen does not use a battery or require recharging but works by receiving an electrostatic signal from the tablet. This power signal is used to charge a small capacitor inside the pen device. Once the capacitor is charged, it activates a transmitter that broadcasts out a signal that indicates pen pressure level and/or button use from inside the pen. Very shortly after sending the power signal to the pen, the tablet base switches to receiving mode. Now the tablet acts as a receiver for the output supplied by the pen. It uses the data the pen sends it to determine pressure and/or button status and determines location by locating what part of the tablet (now acting as an antenna) is receiving the strongest signal.

    An electrostatic tablet configuration is a requirement of the Windows XP Tablet PC Edition operating system, meaning that all systems sold with this operating system use a similar tablet-type input. No Windows XP Tablet PC Editions systems will be sold that use touch screen type tablets (PDA-style).

    As we mentioned before, the real strength of the Windows XP Tablet PC Edition operating system is the software solutions that it is bundled with. Microsoft put effort into the bundled applications in order to make their vision of a Tablet PC a reality.

  28. How I use my Tablet by Diamon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was a lucky enough b@#%!rd to win an Acer TM C102Ti as the MS Tablet PC launch. After piddling with it for a few weeks I've definitely noticed some interesting usage habits.

    For taking notes I use MS Journal, they go in as ink and stay as ink. My recognition of my writing will always be better than their recognition and I don't feel like going through the correction just to get a smaller file size. If I was sharing the notes with someone else I might, but what I keep for myself I keep as ink.

    Browsing I do a mixture or pen and keyboard. I definitely like browsing in tablet mode with the pen it just feels more natural, however entering URL's with the pen is still 50/50 so if I have to pull out the keyboard it's back to landscape mode.

    Any type of command line work such as admin work or coding simply requires a keyboard, no two ways about it. If I remote accesss in to work I have to use a keyboard (they are running a version of MetaFrame that doesn't support pen). This is where the pen will fail to win over the gear-heads in my opinion.

    Also I do find myself using keyboard and pen more than I thought I would. Glidepoints still just don't cut it for me, so I'd rather do the extra grab for the pen.

    All in all I'm really happy with it (I should be since it was free) and I can't imagine buying a laptop without Tablet features after using a Tablet.

    1. Re:How I use my Tablet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah but your a fucking homo. FAG

    2. Re:How I use my Tablet by huie · · Score: 1
      Browsing I do a mixture or pen and keyboard. I definitely like browsing in tablet mode with the pen it just feels more natural, however entering URL's with the pen is still 50/50 so if I have to pull out the keyboard it's back to landscape mode.
      Why not just use the pop-up keyboard if you only need to enter one URL at a time?
    3. Re:How I use my Tablet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude it's nearly 2K-3k bucks, i can go get a notebook for that money and a pda and then I can surf on the internet looking for images of men having gaysexwithdogs

    4. Re:How I use my Tablet by Diamon · · Score: 2

      If it's only one or two URL's I do. If it's going to google and doing a search, or going to somewhere I need to fill out a form a keybaord is just quicker.

    5. Re:How I use my Tablet by Diamon · · Score: 1

      Somehow, I think my wife of 9 years and 7 month old daughter would disagree. This tripe doesn't deserve a reply, but hey it's the giving season

  29. What will they cost in 12 months? by timothy · · Score: 1

    I've finally played with a few of these (in stores), found the shape pretty neat, felt optimistic that the hinges on the models I saw were durable enough for a reasonable lifespan. (The Toshibas' hinge esp.)

    Prices are still around $2,000 (with a few costing less by a few hundred, and others costing more like $3,000), so I wonder -- how much of that is novelty surcharge, and how much is because of complexities inherent to the swiveling hinge and pen-screen?

    Like any (otherwise interesting but expensive) product, there's a price at which I would say "Hey, sure, I'll risk that!" ...

    What's your try-it-out price? And when do you think these tablets will cross it?

    timothy

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    1. Re:What will they cost in 12 months? by Gaurang · · Score: 1

      A thousand.

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  30. Microsoft never ceases to amaze. by pubjames · · Score: 1, Informative

    I understand that the Tablet PC operating system is essentially a modified version of XP.

    I use XP. Just two mintues ago the automatic update application advised me to install two critical updates, one of the being to the Java Virtual Machine. In order to install them I had to click through a EULA that included the following paragraph:

    You may not disclose the results of any benchmark test of the .NET framework component of the OS Components to any third party without Microsoft's prior written approval.

    So in other words, in order to install a critical security patch for an operating system that I have paid good money for, I have to agree that I won't publish figures that be show one of Microsoft's other products in a bad light.

    I find this stunning. Anyone who thinks that Microsoft has changed because of all the recent legal action needs to think again.

    1. Re:Microsoft never ceases to amaze. by NigelJohnstone · · Score: 1

      Why was this guy modded down?

      If they make you that statement in the EULA of Tablet PC XP then its on topic:

      "You may not disclose the results of any benchmark test of the .NET framework component of the OS Components to any third party without Microsoft's prior written approval."

  31. Here it is by NigelJohnstone · · Score: 1

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,4158,00.asp

    There are loads of these linux based things. But the above is the progear

  32. Powdered tablet by TopShelf · · Score: 3, Insightful
    On a loading dock??? They'd have to do a LOT of work to ensure that it could survive the abuse that your typical dock worker would put these babies through. Current handheld scanners or truck-mounted displays do a fine job of meeting those needs already.

    While there are some niche applications that could prove useful, I think this is a case of Microsoft trying desperately to find the Next Big Thing. The desktop/laptop industry is maturing, and with that comes a potential threat to the continued insane levels of profit coming from the Windows & Office products.

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  33. fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wow

  34. Compaq tc1000 by aspeer · · Score: 5, Informative
    I had a chance to use the Compaq TC1000 Tablet PC for about half a day at work. It is easy to dismiss these products if you have not used them (I did), but they do have some fairly innovative features (note that innovative in this context means "new to this form factor of x86/Windows computer" - I am not trying to start a Newton-was-first flame war)

    I found the stylus (pen) interface extremely good - the mouse will follow the stylus even if the stylus is not physically touching the screen up to a height of about 1.5 inches. This makes things a lot easier than having to drag the stylus physically across the screen when moving, say, a folder. A single click is acheived by just touching the stylus to the screen for most applications. The stylus on this machine was apparently "active", requiring one AAAA battery - I did not take it apart to verify this, and have no idea how long the battery would last, but it must be a fair while.

    The "lazy susan" type keyboard (note: not full docking) station is extremely space efficient, and the key feel is (for me) not too bad for the form factor. The tablet is "smart" enough to know when it has been plugged in to the keyboard base, and rotate the screen from portrait to landscape mode automatically. I was sold - it would be a great setup to take on the road, as it would actually be quite usable in an aircraft, on your lap etc.

    Apparently there is a full docking station available (with CD/DVD ROM etc), but we did not have access to it. Under most circumstances, given the inbuilt WLAN interface, the keyboard station would be sufficient.

    For those wanting to support Transmeta, this device contains the new 1Ghz Crusoe TM5800 processor. Battery life was claimed "up to five hours", realistically about 3.5-4hr max. Not stunning, but quite good considering the form factor. Speed was not lightning fast, but probably acceptable for most tasks you would envisage for this type of device. ZDNet bagged it in this review, but I did not find it as bad as they make out

    I hardly used the digital ink features, so cannot comment on them, but others in my section who tried the journal feature seemed to like it.

    When I first saw this device, I pretty much blew it off as a "toy" laptop with a detachable screen, but they really are a bit more than that. After using it for a short while I had to revise my initial hasty opinion, and by the end I did not want to give it back. I would use it in place of a "full" laptop without hesitation.

    Naturally for a new product the price is a bit steep for what you get, and since as far as I know no Linux geeks have had a chance to check it out, its Linux readiness is unknown - it is a given that Linux probably cannot support the software augmented hardware features such as the digital ink/journal etc - but even if the device supported a standard linux install with X, and the mouse and wireless card worked, these would be a great portable. workstation.

    If I can get my hands on one for a bit longer I will try a Linux install, but will need to be carefult to not blow away the OS if possible - it did not look easy to reinstall the base OS, given the lack of inbuilt CDROM device. Comments from anyone who has tried (even at this early stage) to install Linux are welcome.

    1. Re:Compaq tc1000 by praedor · · Score: 2

      Is there really much point to installing linux on one of these things yet as there is absolutely no linux handwriting recognition app that could make the most useful part of it (the pen) actually, well, useful?


      Depending on how these evolve, I may go for one once the price comes down commensurate with its real capabilities (it is less capable than a decent laptop but costs more). I would love to be able to slap a linux distro (any distro) on it if/when it could take advantage of the pen and handwriting rec.


      I'm not holding my breath on that last bit though. This is just not an area where I see open source coming through.

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    2. Re:Compaq tc1000 by aspeer · · Score: 1
      Although you cannot use the handwriting recognition, the unit would make an excellent portable device with the keyboard attachment (which includes a mouse pointer).

      I too do not expect much from Open Source handwriting recognition - it is one of those apps that seems to be in the "really hard" class (similar to voice and image recognition) - you need a lot of money, determination and research to present a reasonable product, and even then it is only adopted by a niche market.

      Doing it as an Open Source project is even harder. Only a limited number of people understand how to do even basic handwriting recognition, and any advances to the art are usually heavily protected by the companies that invent them. It would be a full time commitment to try and bring even the most basic graffiti like product to fruition.

      A quick google search located one potential commercial product for linux here , but it does not appear to be available for purchase yet, more a technology demonstration.

      However this device + keyboard station + Linux would still make an excellent portable unit. Depending on the way the pen hardware works, it may "look" to the OS as a standard mouse, so you could still use it as such, just not in conjunction with handwriting recognition.

  35. All 14 Pages (minus pictures) by ManUMan · · Score: 1

    The Tablet PC: An in depth look with the FIC SlateVision - by Matthew Witheiler

    Every few years a new electronic product comes along that promises to revolutionize the computing world. The past few years have seen everything from digital cameras to LCDs arrive in an attempt to change the way we use our computers. Obviously, some of these products are met with more success than others. For the most part, the success of these products is largely dependent on the backing of the product being announced. A truly revolutionary product may enjoy no market success without the funding and force necessary to ensure that the item both finds itself on the retail market and into the hands of consumers. At the same time, an inferior product may succeed wonderfully given enough funding. Getting the backing necessary to ensure a successful product launch is not the only roadblock in the way of success. In fact, even the backing of a major corporation does not always secure success. Take the Microsoft sponsored eBook "revolution" for example.

    You may recall the launch of Microsoft Reader a few years back. Touted as a new technology that could change the way we receive information, the launch of Reader was paired with the launch of dedicated reading devices. Called dedicated eBook readers, a number of companies entered this market including large brand names such as RCA. With Microsoft pushing the effort there was nothing to lose, right? Wrong.

    Sales of dedicated eBook readers were dismal right out the gate. It seems that the software giant had overestimated users' willingness to discard paper and ink for an LCD monitor and text. The poor sales trend continued, exemplified today by the lack of dedicated eBook readers on the market. Not only Microsoft was left to bear the consequences of the unsuccessful launch but so were the hardware venders who made products supporting the new software. Companies like RCA were left with a large inventory of unsold eBook readers which their were forced to let go at a fraction of their original price. This all goes to show that although money is important in a new product's success it is not the only factor.

    It has been four years since Microsoft first debuted Microsoft Reader software. Hoping to have learned from their past mistakes Microsoft is at it again, providing new software developed for new hardware. This time around Microsoft is suggesting you do something almost as drastic as throwing away your favorite book: it is now telling users to throw away their pen and paper and replace it with a Tablet PC. Launched less than a month ago, the Tablet PC "revolution" has drawn quite a bit of attention recently. The problem is that most of the information out there about Tablet PCs is very basic or just plain marketing hype. Today we solve that problem by taking an AnandTech look at Microsoft's latest operating system, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition, the various software solutions out there for the operating system, and the hardware that drives the software. Follow us as we discover if the Tablet PC is truly revolutionary or just another dedicated eBook reader.

    Windows XP Tablet Edition

    The foundation behind every new Tablet PC on the market is Microsoft's newest operating system: Windows XP Tablet PC Edition. What are the differences between Windows XP Tablet PC Edition and the well known Windows XP Professional operating system? There actually are not that many.

    Windows XP Tablet PC Edition is based on Windows XP Professional, much like Windows XP Media Center Edition is. This means that Windows XP Tablet PC Edition maintains the full functionality of Windows XP Professional, including the advanced networking functions of the operating system. In fact, the majority of differences come with the software that the operating system includes, namely Microsoft Windows Journal, Microsoft Input Panel, and Microsoft Sticky Notes. We will get into detail about these applications in a moment but for now let's examine the operating system level differences between Windows XP Tablet PC Edition and Windows XP Professional, of which there is only one.

    Besides the bundled Tablet PC specific applications and tutorials, there is really one noticeable difference between Windows XP Tablet PC Edition and Windows XP Professional (besides the boot screen logo that is). That difference is the inclusion of a "Tablet and Pen Settings" icon in the control panel. Via this control panel. function, one can set the the tablet properties. A wizard actually runs after installation of the operating system to guide the user through setting the various tablet options, but the control panel option allows for easy control of the settings. A glimpse of this panel reveals the complex underlyings of the Tablet PC operating system.

    The first page of the settings dialogue box provides three tablet options. The first of the three allows the user to indicate whether he or she is left or right handed. How the tablet alters its recognition by knowing the user's hand preference is not something that Microsoft is willing to go into detail about, but the option does indicate that there has been a lot of fine tuning in the handwriting recognition software (which we will get to try out in just a bit). The second option on this page allows the user to set where pop-up menus are located. In a standard Windows XP Professional install, right clicking the mouse creates a menu that spawns to the lower left of the mouse cursor. In a tablet, this menu location would be fine for left handed users but right hand users would face the problem of having their hand cover up the newly spawned menu. This problem is solved by implementing a user selectable location of right click menus: either on the left of the cursor (for right handers) or left of the cursor (for left handers). The final option available on this page allows for calibration of the pen. Just like the PDA calibration screens you have probably seen, the Tablet PC is calibrated by clicking on a set of points indicated on the screen by X's.

    The second tab in the Tablet and Pen Settings control panel allows the user to control the display of his or her tablet. On this tab the user can select the screen orientation (landscape or portrait) and the sequence which a hardware button changes the display orientation. In general we actually ended up using our tablet in portrait mode as opposed to landscape. We found this to be more conducive to taking notes and writing in the Tablet PC's interface as it more closely resembled a pen and paper in this mode. Portrait mode in most systems runs at 768x1024 while landscape runs at the customary 1024x768 resolution.

    Also in the display setting tab is a slider for screen brightness. Typically only available via function key combinations in notebook computers, this slider allows the user to set the screen brightness when plugged in and when on battery.

    The final tab under the Tablet and Pen Settings dialogue box provides settings for pen options. Here a list of pen actions are listed along with their corresponding mouse functions, for example press and hold for right-click. In our test tablet we were not able to change any of these actions using the "Settings" option. Whether this is due to our specific build of Windows XP Tablet PC Edition (our unit came with an evaluation install of the operating system, not the full retail install) or a limitation in all Tablet PCs we do not know but should be able to report back about which is the case soon. Other pen options on this page include using the pen button for a right click and using the top of the pen to erase (both only work on supported pens).

    Now would be a good time to briefly discuss how the pen input method on Tablet PCs operates. Unlike the PDAs that we are all used to, one need not touch the screen to move the mouse cursor in a Tablet PC. Hovering the pen input device above the screen about a quarter of an inch above the screen is all that is needed to move the pointer from one location to another. The pen need make contact with the screen only when doing functions other than moving the mouse, for example the pen is touched to the screen to left click, pressed and held on the screen for a right click, and pressed on continuously for writing.

    The pen on Tablet PCs operate in this fashion because it is more than just a piece of plastic like most styluses. The pen does not use a battery or require recharging but works by receiving an electrostatic signal from the tablet. This power signal is used to charge a small capacitor inside the pen device. Once the capacitor is charged, it activates a transmitter that broadcasts out a signal that indicates pen pressure level and/or button use from inside the pen. Very shortly after sending the power signal to the pen, the tablet base switches to receiving mode. Now the tablet acts as a receiver for the output supplied by the pen. It uses the data the pen sends it to determine pressure and/or button status and determines location by locating what part of the tablet (now acting as an antenna) is receiving the strongest signal.

    An electrostatic tablet configuration is a requirement of the Windows XP Tablet PC Edition operating system, meaning that all systems sold with this operating system use a similar tablet-type input. No Windows XP Tablet PC Editions systems will be sold that use touch screen type tablets (PDA-style).

    As we mentioned before, the real strength of the Windows XP Tablet PC Edition operating system is the software solutions that it is bundled with. Microsoft put effort into the bundled applications in order to make their vision of a Tablet PC a reality.

    Software: Windows Journal

    Perhaps the strongest application that Windows XP Tablet PC Edition has to offer is the Windows Journal application. This application serves to be a mainstay of the Tablet PC experience by providing users with an easy to use, pen and paper-like environment. Let's see just how Windows Journal works.

    Launching Windows Journal places the user on a blank page with lines on it, just as if he or she was sitting in front of a piece of notebook paper. The application can either be run in landscape mode (providing a wide, short page) or portrait mode (proving a narrow, long page). We found the application lent itself to the portrait configuration, as it was in this mode that the application felt most like pen and paper. The top of the page is dedicated to the title of the note, which becomes with filename that the journal entry is saved under (converted to text). The date is also imprinted on the top right.

    Properties of the lined page you write on are configurable. You can select the line spacing and type from a number of options, including college ruled, wide ruled, and gridded. You can also customize the line type to fit your preferences by setting the line spacing and color.

    As we mentioned before, the top line of the Journal is for the note title. The remaining space is for text input which is drawn on the screen using the pen and the pen tool. You can customize the pen used for writing from a number of different pens and there are options for pen color and pen type. For our testing we left the pen in its default state but turned on the pressure sensitivity function which changes the darkness of the pen stroke depending on the amount of pressure used to write just like writing on real paper would.

    Like other Windows applications there are a set of buttons atop the Windows Journal page that allow for easy access to commonly used tools such as pen, highlighter, eraser, select, and insert space. Of course, there is also a top menu bar which provides access to even more features of Windows Journal.

    To test the handwriting capabilities of Windows XP Tablet PC Edition, we chose to write down the first paragraph from George Orwell's 1949 masterpiece, 1984. We decided to choose a set paragraph from a known work because it should accurately reflect a reasonable usage scenario for the Tablet PC. As you can see in the above screen shots, we transcribed the first paragraph of the text in our natural handwriting in both landscape and portrait configurations. The text looked strikingly similar to the same text copied on a regular piece of paper.

    The handwritten text can be manipulated in a number of ways. Text can be underlined, highlighted, and erased just like on normal paper. The eraser function actually works particularly well, erasing a whole stroke at one time as opposed to just the part of the text that the pen goes over. It is also possible to insert lines of space into existing ink text, allowing one to insert handwritten notes anywhere in the text even after they are taken, something hard to do with regular paper without the help of scissors and tape.

    The handwriting capability of Windows Journal is only one feature of the software. With the paragraph copied over into Journal we could print out the page to resemble notes on a normal piece of paper, attach the page to an Outlook e-mail, or save the file to the Windows *.jnt file format for further editing or to a webpage or *.tif format for printing or viewing only. But capturing handwriting is certainly not the only thing that Windows Journal can do.

    Windows Journal also has the ability to convert written handwriting, such as that pictured above, into text. To convert written words into text, first one has to select the text to be translated using the lasso tool. The product of selection is shown below:

    From this pont one can go to the Actions menu and perform a convert selection to text function. Doing so brings up the Text Correction box. After a moment delay while the system converts the handwriting to text, the Text Correction box shows a text preview of what Windows Journal thought you were writing. In every case, Windows Journal chooses what it feels is the best match for that word based on both the letters written and a dictionary of words (which helps to guess words when some letters are unclear). Items that the Journal had questions about are highlighted in green. Clicking on a green word shows an image of the ink word translated and gives a list of alternatives to select from. Below you can see how Journal recognized our handwriting selection.

    In this particular instance, the handwriting function of Windows XP Tablet PC Edition recognized 100% of the words correctly. It had questions about a few of the words (the ones in green) but in every case chose the correct word by default. On the whole, the text conversion worked properly a very high percentage of the time in our normal script, averaging at minimum a 98% accuracy or so.

    We also decided to throw some horrible handwriting at the Tablet PC. We wrote another test page, this time in poor cursive that disregarded the lines of the paper (Microsoft suggests you write on the lines for maximum recognition accuracy). In this instance (shown below), the accuracy of the Journal translation went down to 91% (missed two words out of the twenty three). Staying on the lines would have likely increased accuracy a noticeable amount, although the poor handwriting is most likely to blame.

    A problem did arise when attempting to change a words that Journal did not recognize properly. When Windows Journal completely misinterprets a word you are limited to choosing a correction from the alternate list. You can not rewrite the word in order to get a new list of alternatives.

    Once past the correction phase of the text recognition, the next dialogue box prompts the user to select what he or she would like to do with the converted text. One can either copy the text to the clipboard for use in another application (Word, for example) or insert the text in a text box in the current Journal note. We chose the latter. Obviously, once in text in the Journal entry it is possible to copy and paste the text into any application by selecting it.

    Overall we were very pleased with Windows Journal; it worked just as advertised, able to convert our handwriting to text with ease. The recognition is many times better than that present on Pocket PCs and the like, most likely due to the more complex operations that the Tablet PC can perform thanks to its faster processor.

    The main limitation of Windows Journal is the way it formats converted text. The program completely disregards most formatting, for example new lines, bullets, and numbered lists. The recognized text is inserted into the clipboard or Journal in paragraph form. Any attempt to convert lists or specially formatted notes results in just a block of text, occasionally with odd characters in it (it turns bullets into periods, for example). This is something that Microsoft's OneNote software should take care of some time next year, but until it is released specially formatted text will have to stay in digital ink form to maintain formatting.

    Software: Input Panel

    Sure, handwriting recognition works wonderfully in applications designed for it, such as Windows Journal, but what about applications that do not have built in handwriting support like Internet Explorer and Word? How does one insert typed text into these applications? Using the Input Panel, of course. The other piece of software driving Windows XP Tablet PC Edition is the Tablet PC Input Panel, a bar that docks on the bottom of the screen and allows for input via the tablet's pen (it can also be set to float for those who do not like losing the desktop space taken by docking the bar).

    The Input Panel provides the user with a number of input methods to chose from. Perhaps the most useful is the writing pad feature of the Panel. In this mode, the Input Panel displays one or two blank lines on which text can be written and translated into text. The text is written using the pen on the Input Panel lines and then sent into the active application after a user defined delay period. We found ourselves using this method of input the majority of the time, using it to type in web addresses, share locations, and quick Word notes. To the right of the writing pad lies a set of quick buttons that give access to commonly used functions such as shift, control, and backspace. Speaking of backspace, if you make a mistake or decide not to insert the text you were writing, words written in Input Panel can be scratched out to be flagged to not be translated. Again, Microsoft implemented this feature in an attempt to make the Tablet PC feel as much like pen and paper as possible.

    The text recognition engine used in Input Panel is the same as that used in Windows Journal, so the recognition accuracy turned out to be very good. We had very few problems using the panel to input text into applications that do not natively support handwriting.

    If handwriting is not for you or if you need to perform a unique combinations of key strokes, the Input Panel software also offers an onscreen keyboard. The keyboard lies in the area reserved for the Input Panel and includes fairly large and easily accessible buttons that can be tapped using the pen. Through testing we actually found the handwriting method of input to be faster and fairly error free. In fact, we only really ended up using the keyboard when entering passwords, as the handwriting recognition tends to have problems converting a random string of letters and numbers into correct text (since it tries to pick a known word out of its dictionary first).

    The final input method offered by the Tablet PC Input Panel is the voice recognition method. Previously only available to Office XP users, the speech function of Input Panel allows users to perform basic functions and input text using their voice. Like other speech engines, you have to train the speech feature of Input Panel to recognize your voice via a 5 to 10 minute reading session. After that, speech can be used to enter text in any application. The speech engine appears to be the same one used by Office XP, so if you have experience using that program you should find the results provided by the speech feature of Input Panel familiar.

    Software: Sticky Notes

    Another extra that Microsoft chose to include in order to make the Tablet PC more appealing is the Sticky Notes application. Sticky Notes functions like an advanced set of Post-it notes. The notepad appears as a rectangular yellow pad and the pen can be used to write in the yellow area. This application is helpful for jotting down quick notes (such as the to do list below). A recorded message can also be attached to each note using the record function at the bottom of Sticky Notes. New pages can be added and old ones viewed by using the navigation arrows at the top of the note pad. The application has no convert to text function but does offer the ability to copy and paste the note information.

    Software: InkBall

    For the sake of entertainment, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition also comes with a new game. Called InkBall, the game is controlled by the pen. The object of the game is to direct each ball (orange or blue) into the proper hole. The balls' path is determined by drawing lines off which the balls are deflected from. Once hit, the line disappears. The game did prove to be entertaining and an interesting time waster but not much more than that.

    Software: Office Tablet Add-on

    Using the Tablet Add-on for Microsoft Office XP allows you to take notes using the pen directly into Office applications. Below we used the add-on to make some notes in an existing Word document. The drawings are then embedded in the Word document and can be seen by anyone reading the file with a copy of Word XP.

    Software: 3rd Party

    Most likely thanks to Microsoft backing, there are a number of free 3rd party applications out there that are designed to be used with Tablet PCs. Three of the most interesting applications are developed by major software vendors.

    The first of these is a sketching program designed by Alias called SketchBook, of which there is a free "light" version of the program available for download. SketchBook is a surprisingly full featured drawing program designed specifically for Windows XP Tablet PC Edition. The program functions like a sketch book using nothing more than the tablet PC and the pen input. There are quite a number of tools to choose from, including air brushes, markers, pens, and markers. Choosing from the built in pens, color, tools, or options is amazingly easy. To choose a color, for example, simply point on the color wheel present on the lower left selection tool. Doing this pops up up a color wheel directly above the wheel. Now, drag the pen in the general direction of the color you wish to select (there is a line indicating the selected color) and you are set. It is clear from using this program that it was designed with the pen input method in mind and it pays off.

    We are no artists, but we can assure you that SketchBook is a great program. If you don't believe us, a quote from Gabe one of the amazing Penny Arcade artists may help:

    I think Alias Sketchbook is absolutely incredible. Feel free to take a look at the sketch below and decide for yourself. Believe it or not that was drawn on my tablet PC using Alias Sketchbook. It looks just like a... Pencil drawing if you ask me. Sketching into it feels so natural that occasionally I forget that I'm using a stylus instead of a pencil and that my lines are being rendered by an 800 MHz Pentium 3.

    As you can see, Alias SketchBook is capable of doing some pretty powerful stuff. The Pro version, which is not yet available, is said to offer more advanced features and integration but it is unclear what these features will be as of yet.

    The second major vendor producing software specifically designed for the Tablet PC is Corel. The software is called Grafigo and it takes Windows Journal to a higher level. The program offers the same handwriting capabilities and convert to text features as Windows Journal but adds in shape recognition, and some neat features like "onionskins" which let you add a form of tracing paper to a document or picture and symbols for pre made symbol insertion.

    Overall Grafigo actually turned out to be a more useful program than Windows Journal and at a price of free it is hard to beat. We will have to wait and see how it compares to Microsoft OneNote, but we suspect that OneNote will one up Grafigo.

    The final program that is delivering exciting new features to the Tablet PC is FranklinCovey TabletPlanner. We only got a chance to play with TabletPlanner for a few moments while in Comdex this year but it looks to be a powerful calendar package able to search handwritten text. We should be able to report back soon on our experiences with this software package.

    The Options

    Now that we know more about the software side of Windows XP Tablet PC Edition than the basic "it can translate handwriting into text" it is time to take a look at the two types of hardware solutions out there. Tablet PCs come in either slate or convertible form, each with their own pros and cons.

    Slate form factor Tablet PCs are display driven Tablets. Rather than attempt to emulate a notebook computer, Tablet PCs combine a screen and a system in one unit. These units typically include an external keyboard that the slate docks into or can be used with an external USB keyboard and mouse. Of the two configurations, the slate configuration is the more radical of the two. On the go it requires one to use the pen input options only. The benefit of this: slate system are typically smaller and lighter than convertible ones.

    The other type of Tablet PC is the convertible Tablet PC. Convertible tablet systems resemble classic notebooks at first glance. They open like standard notebooks with the screen lifting to reveal a keyboard and touch pad in most cases. The system can be used in notebook mode just like any other notebook computer but what makes convertible Tablet PCs unique is their ability to turn into a tablet resembling a slate. The screens on convertible Tablet PCs fold back on themselves and over the keyboard to close like a dedicated tablet machine. Although the units bring notebook-like functionality to the Tablet PC, they are typically larger and heavier than slate-only systems.

    We covered a number of different tablet solutions in our Comdex coverage a few weeks back. Check out that review to see what venders were showing off on the Tablet PC front.

    The first tablet we have gotten the chance to look at is a slate form factor tablet created by FIC. Called the SlateVision, we were excited to see the tablet in Comdex and even more excited to get our hands on an engineering sample just last week. Although the sample we received is a prerelease version of the tablet (we should get the retail version in a week or so), we were more than happy to take a look at the system and evaluate it based on our experiences with it. We choose to hold off on benchmarks for this review simply because this version of the SlateVision uses an 800MHz Crusoe TM5800 processor while the retail version will ship with a 1GHz version of the chip. Instead we will have a quick look around the system and check out some of its internals to tide you over until the final SlateVision arrives in the lab for full testing.

    Construction: Build Appearance and Size

    FIC is a brand that many in North America may associate with nothing more than motherboards but the company has been working on the IA side of computers for some time now. The most recent product out of the IA labs is the SlateVision Tablet PC. FIC was lucky enough to secure a Windows XP Tablet PC Edition license for the product, as Microsoft has to authorize all hardware running the operating system. This is a huge advantage for FIC, allowing it to enter the Tablet PC market early.

    As mentioned before, the FIC SlateVision is a slate form factor Tablet PC. As of yet there is no keyboard or docking station available for our engineering sample, making the unit a slate and not much more unless external USB devices are used. There are plans to release these items soon and hopefully we will be able to evaluate them as they come to market.

    About the size of a piece of paper and one inch thick, the SlateVision weighs in at only 3.25 pounds (although the shipping unit is supposed to cut the weight down to 2.97 pounds by using a new battery design). The size of the unit is very impressive and actually does really resemble a notebook of sorts. The unit is all back with rubber on the top and bottom and one side of the unit to make holding it easier. The case is made out of magnesium alloy, keeping the weight of the unit down and the strength of the case up. The buttons are silver in color and give the SlateVision an attractive appearance.

    The unit uses a 10.4" electrostatic XGA screen that can run at a maximum resolution of 1024x768x16. The 10.4" screen is typical for the current generation Tablet PCs which keep size down by using these smaller screens. 1024x768 seemed like a good resolution for the screen to run at, although we were somewhat limited in desktop space while the Input Panel was open. Even though the maximum color depth of the screen was limited to 16-bit, we were pleased with the image that the screen was able to draw with the exception of some slight dithering in Windows dialogue boxes and high resolution pictures. The screen is advertised as having a protection sheet over it, but we would have to wait until we took the unit apart before we could find the truth in that claim.

    The screen is surrounded by buttons and LEDs of various sorts. In order to simplify things we will use the tablet in its landscape orientation to describe the unit and the button locations. The bottom of the unit is home to a set of three buttons which actually greatly add to the usability of the system. The first of these buttons is labeled "1st Menu" and is used to launch FIC's proprietary tablet configuration software which we detail in the software section of this review. The second button is a 4 way directional pad with a center click. The arrow buttons maintain their proper function no matter the screen orientation. This could be a problem because hitting the up button in landscape mode turns out to be the same as hitting the left button in portrait mode. Luckily the FIC software takes care of this problem and maps the buttons appropriately. Hitting the center of the button maps to the enter key. The button location proved to be excellent, falling into easily accessible positions regardless of screen orientation.

    The bottom of the unit is also home to three LEDs. The first of these is the battery charge LED. The LED glows orange while the battery is charging and turns green when fully charged. One limitation of this LED in our engineering sample is that the LED would not light up unless the unit was powered on. This made determining battery charge while the unit was off rather hard. Hopefully the retail version of the unit has this bug ironed out. The second LED serves as a hard drive activity light. The LED blinks orange during hard drive activity and remains off when there is none. The final LED is the power status LED. This LED glows green while the system is powered on and turns orange when the unit is in sleep mode.

    Moving to the right side of the screen we find the unit's single speaker. The speaker ont the unit provided to be slightly worse compared to what we have come to expect from notebook systems, but then again the SlateVision has much less space to work with compared to a full sized notebook system.

    On the top right side of the unit is the internal pen holder. The small gray pen that sits in this holder includes a single right-click button (which did not work properly on our engineering sample) but is not pressure sensitive. The unit also comes with a slightly larger pen that includes pressure sensitivity but it is too big to find a home in the system: it must be carried separately. The majority of the time we found ourselves using the larger, pressure sensitive pen if for nothing more than the fact it felt more like a real pen than the smaller pen housed in the system.

    The final item around the SlateVision's screen is the unit's internal microphone. The location of the microphone seemed to be reasonable as our hands did not get in the way often. The only problem we see with placing the microphone where it is is that left handed users may find themselves covering the microphone with their hand while the unit is in landscape mode.

    Although the SlateVision is a small machine, it does feature a pretty impressive port list. The ports are found, for the most part, along the unit's edges.

    The front of the system is home to five separate ports. The first of these is the DC-in port. This port accepts power from the small included power brick that outputs 19V at 3.16A. To the right of the power port is the docking port. This port is set to accept either the optional keyboard or the optional docking station. In either instance, this port works in conjunction with two small grooves in the back of the system to allow the unit to stand on its own while docked.

    To the right of the docking port are two headphone jacks; one for microphone in and one for headphones out. The final component on the front side of the unit is the VGA-out port. The port works via a dongle and can plug into any standard VGA monitor to drive two displays at once (the tablet and the monitor).

    The right side of the unit is home to the SlateVision's communication ports. The first is an IrDA 1.1 port used for IR communication with printers, computer, or other devices. The next two ports are hidden under a small rubber piece which folds down and out of place while the ports are in use. The first of these ports is a modem jack. The second is an ethernet jack. The final item on the right side of the unit is the PCMCIA slot. The slot is able to accept one type II PCMCIA card for expansion options.

    The remainder of the ports are located on the back side of the SlateVision. Here we find two USB 1.1 ports, a single unpowered 4-pin IEEE1394 port (firewire) and a lock port for securing the unit. Between the communications ports and the lock port lie the unit's power button (which slides to turn on) and reset button (which is pushed with the pen to reset the system).

    The bottom of the SlateVision is home to a few other items. First off there are a few cooling holes present on the system. Because of the low power processor the SlateVision uses, the system is only passively cooled meaning that there are no internal fans. There is also a row of cooling holes on the top of the system. The location of the cooling holes correspond with the location of the system's CPU. it is around this area that we were able to measure the system's highest external temperature of 98.5 degrees Fahrenheit (37.0 degrees Celsius). This low temperature makes the SlateVision the coolest running portable system we have seen to date; pretty impressive considering it is 100% passively cooled.

    On the back of the system you can also find two clip-out feet. The feet flip up at almost 90 degree angles and seem to be used to keep the unit from resting flat on a surface while in use on a table, thus allowing hot air to escape via the cooling holes. The feet are rubberized in order to minimize slipping.

    The battery release buttons are also on the bottom of the system. The battery lies on the right side of the system and is easily slide out by moving both battery releases towards the center of the system.

    The unit measures 11.25" x 8.5" x 1.0" and weighs in at 3.25 pounds (again, the shipping unit is said to be just under 3.0 pounds). The system is anything but big. Compared to the desktop replacements we have gotten used to, carrying around the SlateVision was a pleasure.

    Construction: Under the Hood

    In a Tablet PC such as the SlateVision the hardware chosen for the system was selected not to be the most powerful out there but to provide the best balance between performance and battery life. As a result, FIC turned to some fairly slow but low power usage components. Our engineering sample SlateVision came with an 800MHz Crusoe TM5800 processor, 256MB of PC133 memory, a Lynx 3DM8+ graphics chip, and a 20GB hard drive. Keep in mind that the specifications on the unit are said to be changing for the final shipping unit. The retail model is supposed to come with the 1GHz version of the TM5800 Crusoe processor and offer DDR memory; two items which should help speed noticeably.

    The brains of the SlateVision is the Transmeta Crusoe TM5800 processor. Transmeta earned a name for themselves a few years back with the announcement of the Transmeta CPU which promised to provide high performance computing with low power consumption. The x86 compatible processor was to combine hardware and "code morphing" software to allow the VLIW (Very Long Instruction Word) Crusoe to understand x86 commands. The benefits: a smaller CPU package that consumed up to 70 percent less power than competing chips.

    Transmeta CPUs have been used in portable computers for some time now and are the processor of choice for ultra-portable systems because of their low power consumption.

    The flip-chip Crusoe TM5800 is mounted directly on the SlateVision's motherboard and is not available in a socketed configuration. As you may recall, the Crusoe TM5800 includes 128K of L1 cache and 512K of 4-way set associative write back L2 cache. The chip also includes an integrated northbridge, providing DDR or SDR SDRAM support as well as a PCI controller and a southbridge interface. The TM5800 appears to improve upon the older TM5600 chip (used in the PaceBook Paceblade) by running at faster clock speeds (thanks to a smaller manufacturing process) and implementing a new version of Transmeta's code morphing software (now up to 4.2).

    The CPU is cooled via a passive heatsink much like the ones found over the northbridge of a good number of motherboards. The heatsink, although small, seems to get the job done as indicated by the low operating temperature we measured on the system.

    The video chip is also mounted on the back of the SlateVision's motherboard. For a video solution FIC turned to the low power Silicion Motion Lynx3DM8+ chip; also the same chip we initially saw in the PaceBook Paceblade. The chip, which came out almost two years ago, offers 2D and 3D support, although it is not meant to be a gaming chip and is akin to mobile integrated graphics controllers. The chip in our system included 8MB of integrated video memory and also includes hardware rotation, allowing the system to change from landscape to portrait mode, as well as fairly good power management technology. Again, although the Lynx3DM8 supports 3D, it is certainly not happy running it as even the animated Windows XP screens ran a bit slow and jumpy.

    The SlateVision's motherboard actually includes 128MB of integrated memory on it; half mounted on the back of the motherboard and the other half on the front. The SODIMM expansion slot is located on the back of the motherboard and in our engineering sample was outfitted with 128MB of Mushkin PC133 memory to bring the total memory of the system up to 256MB.

    The other expansion connector, the miniPCI slot, is also located on the back of the motherboard. In our unit the slot was occupied with an Actiontec 802MIP (W) 802.11b wireless card. The card is capable of accepting two separate wireless antenna inputs and the SlateVision is the first system we have seen take use of both inputs, with two antenna in the system: one on the unit's top and one on its left side.

    The internal modem is also found on the back of the motherboard:

    The final chip of importance on the SlateVision's back is a Realtek RTL8100L fast ethernet controller with power management.

    The front of the SlateVision's motherboard is much more bare than the back of the unit, most likely because it is this side which has to rest against the screen.

    Besides the system's internal battery and the remaining 64MB of RAM, the southbridge is also mounted on the front of the motherboard. For a southbridge FIC decided to go with an ALI M1535+. On top of a 2 channel ATA-100 controller, Super I/O controller, and Fast IR controller, the M1535+ also offers integrated audio with SoundBlaster Pro/16 compatibility.

    There was also a silkscreen for an additional chip on the front of the SlateVision's motherboard. If this space will be used and what will go there is still a mystery to us.

    While we were taking apart the SlateVision, we thought we would take a look at the electrostatic screen. Removing the 10.4" screen reveals that behind the screen lies a Wacom digitizer unit. It is not clear what the specific model number of the digitizer is, but you can be fairly certain that it is an OEM only solution.

    It turns out that FIC's claim of a protective sheet over the LCD panel is true As the picture shows, there was a fairly thick layer of glass/plastic resting over the LCD panel. This did more than protect the screen from damage: it also provided us with a hard surface to write upon. The texture of the screen was very pleasing, not smooth like glass and not bumpy. In fact, the surface feels a good deal like an actual paper surface which proves to be a nice touch. Also, the protective layer was not very susceptible to finger prints, meaning that we were not forced to clean the screen surface after every time we wrote something on the screen.

    Our unit came with a 20.0GB IBM Travelstar 40GN hard drive. The drive is one we have seen used before in mobile systems and features a reasonable average seek time of 12ms with a 2MB data buffer and a 4200RPM rotation speed.

    As we mentioned before, the speaker on the SlateVision was not the most impressive speaker we have come across. Then again, FIC was more considered with size than fidelity, and the internal speaker is certainly small. To give the speaker credit, it did a fine job at playing back Windows and system sounds.

    The battery on the SlateVision is a 6 cell 3600mAH lithium-ion battery pack. We did not have the change to run formal battery tests on the system, but from what we did get to observe we suspect that the SlateVision lasts from 3 to 4 hours on a full battery charge. Be sure to check back in our final SlateVision review to see just how long the battery does last.

    Features: Software

    While many mobile systems no longer come with proprietary software that enhances productivity, the SlateVision does. The system ships with FIC's 1st Menu program that provides easy access to many of the tablet's functions. Hitting the 1st Menu button launches the program which is navigated using the direction pad. Screen brightness, system volume, screen orientation, pen calibration, and system shutdown functions can all be navigated to using 1st Menu.

    The volume and brightness settings brings up an onscreen menu that is controlled by the direction arrows to set the items to the desired levels.

    We found that the most useful part of 1st Menu is the rotation function. In this menu, it is possible to select from a number of rotation settings with the application showing a preview of each setting relative to the position you are currently in.

    The SlateVision also ships with a 30 day trail of FranklinCovey TabletPlanner. Again, from what we have seen of this program, it looks to be fairly impressive.

    Conclusions

    Now that we have had some hands-on time with a Tablet PC, what are our impressions of the operating system and hardware solutions? We are very pleased. A Tablet PC will never replace our desktop, like some of the new high-end notebooks are beginning to do, but that is OK because the Tablet is not trying to replace a desktop; it is trying to complement it.

    By far the most useful application of the Microsoft Windows XP Tablet PC Edition involves those who take notes on a regular basis. This could be anyone from a student to a manager to a doctor. These individuals will benefit from moving to a paperless note taking solution as notes can be translated into text, manipulated later, and even exported to other programs. Right now you are somewhat limited due to the lack of formatting in the existing recognition software solutions but with upcoming note taking solutions such as Microsoft OneNote things are only going to get better. Artists also stand to benefit from using a Tablet PC. As Gabe from Penny Arcade demonstrated, it is possible to draw some realistic pictures using free 3rd party solutions.

    Microsoft has done a good job making Windows XP Tablet PC Edition fairly full featured right out of the box. With the bundled software applications, it is possible to use Tablet PCs without even owning a keyboard. The handwriting recognition had no problem deciphering our less than stellar handwriting the vast majority of time time, although typing is still faster for us. All in all it does not look like the Tablet PC will go the way of the eBook reader; it is far too full featured and productive to completely fail.

    As for our impressions on Tablet PC hardware, if the FIC SlateVision is a sign of things to come we could not be more happy. We were extremely pleased with the size and functionality of the SlateVision slate Tablet PC. We found ourselves opting to take the SlateVision to meetings and using the system to outline notes for reviews. FIC has done a very good job making the SlateVision a worthy competitor. Plus at a price of less than $1500 the FIC SlateVision looks to be an extremely attractive system (other Tablet PC units out there now go for $2000+). We will have to wait a few more days before we get our hands on the final version of the SlateVision and come to a decision on the system's value but if the engineering sample we got our hands on is any indication, the SlateVision could be the budget Tablet PC to own.

    The only problem we see for the SlateVision comes from the marketing end of things. FIC is very excited at the prospect of bringing the SlateVision to US shelves but unless the unit is picked up by large retail chains such as Best Buy, CompUSA, and Frys the unit will only experience limited success in the US market. We suspect that given the system's price and features, many users will opt for the SlateVision if the get the chance to use and try the unit in store running side by side comparable tablets from HP, Acer, and Toshiba. FIC promises they have big retail plans for the SlateVision and let's hope that everything goes as planned on their end.

    Be sure to check back in the next two weeks or so for our final SlateVision review. In the mean time think about what a Tablet PC can do for you and which form factor is more fitting for your needs.

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  36. AnandTech Site Speed by Matthew+Witheiler · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hey guys, I just wanted to let you know that we just finished tweaking the servers by adding another 3mbps to the image server. The site should be faster now (meaning it will actually load in most cases).

    Enjoy the review,

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  37. Grmbl... by Wouter+Van+Hemel · · Score: 0, Troll
    Maybe it's time to break open that piggy bank...


    No. Maybe you will not give your piggy bank to Micro$oft for once.



    This is an opensource forum with pro-free software people. Surely somebody must see that buying hardware from Redmond is feeding the beast? Especially since the thing comes with windows pre-installed?!



    Besides, in my opinion, the thing is a gadget. I see no use for a geek or poweruser, only for those management-types that always buzz around everywhere with all their 'cool' new toys that are way too expensive for whatever use it has... If it has a use, that is.



    It's funny how marketing people themselves always seem to fall for marketing talk, sales tricks and stupid show-off gadgets, you'd think they'd know better...


    1. Re:Grmbl... by swfranklin · · Score: 1
      This is an opensource forum with pro-free software people...

      Really? Huh, I must be in the wrong place. I thought this was Slashdot - News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters. I'm a Windows developer of quite proprietary software, and I use Windows and MS apps for my personal projects as well.

      I guess I missed the decree that Nerds had to use OSS...

  38. My experience by cptgrudge · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I suppose I'll start my post while I wait for the load strained pages of the article to load.

    I feel a little like I'm being a tool for Microsoft, but it's probably because I've made a few other posts on the subject. When someone puts together a great product I feel they should get credit where credit is due.

    I purchased the Viewsonic v1100 after playing with it in the store for an hour. If I had to do it again, I would probably get one of the Fujitsus instead, since that is what other slashdot users seem to buy. Don't get me wrong though, I love the one I got. It's worth every cent I paid. I figured that if I was going to plunk down some money on one of these, then I would embrace it. And embrace it I did. I stopped using paper whenever possible, and tried to convert as many documents into their electronic counterparts.

    I work as a technician between several buildings, so with this tablet I can connect, through 802.11b, to the help desk software we have. Using this, I have effectively replaced all of my notepads, lists, and papers that I used to carry around with me. It ends up replacing about the same weight, only now everything is organized, and I can bring it all with me.

    All I can say is that it just works. The interface is simple, yet works extremely well, and it runs all the apps I need.

    Oh yeah, and it hasn't crashed once in the three weeks I've had it.

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  39. Just another device? by domenic+v1.0 · · Score: 1

    I've been reading a lot of these posts and some have it right when they say it's just an over-sized Palm with XP. So, where shall I put the next device when I walk through the office with my Palm on the left side of my hip, my 2 cellphones on the other side with one of them having an ear-piece in my ear, my pager clipped to my pocket, and my laptop around my shoulder?

    1. Re:Just another device? by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1, Troll

      how about up your ass, i.e. where it belongs if you have that much shit that you carry...

    2. Re:Just another device? by domenic+v1.0 · · Score: 1

      Why should I? Am I not livnig in the cyber age...oh please intrigue me with your blissfull interpretation of communicating via the noise you make when you shit on yourself?

  40. MilSpec Ruggedized Windows Tablet by TheAncientHacker · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's already a full ruggedized version. The iX104-TPC from Xplore Technologies (iX104 Page) which is built to Military Environmental Test Standards [MIL-STD 810F] so I think it could handle a dock worker. Especially since Xplore already builds for that market and understands what's needed.

    1. Re:MilSpec Ruggedized Windows Tablet by alan6101 · · Score: 1

      That, I would like. I could put up with the extra weight for not having to be overly gentle with it.

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  41. Linux Tablet PC by Monkeyfarmer · · Score: 1

    Check out THIS And check out the X-tend tablet. Looks cool to me. I'll say it again... Not sure why no one seems to be interested in pointing it out as a cover story here on /. I guess people would rather talk about M$ stuff? I mean here is a really cool looking tool that seems to embrace open development, etc. etc. etc. and I've never seen any mention of it here.

    1. Re:Linux Tablet PC by veddermatic · · Score: 2

      well, for one, you can BUY a tablet PC, this looks like some computer renderings of case designs with photoshopped screenshots.

      neat concept, but vaporware != worth a frontpage story (well, most of the time =)

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    2. Re:Linux Tablet PC by Gaurang · · Score: 1

      this looks like some computer renderings of case designs with photoshopped screenshots.

      :-D Well Said.

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  42. Wrong Product by TheAncientHacker · · Score: 2

    The Tablet PC isn't what Microsoft is offering for being comfortable working on the couch. The couch PC is the Windows Powered Smart Display which is designed to let you use your existing PC on the couch by undocking the display and using the existing system remotely with a stylus. The Tablet PC is targeted at people who don't work at a desk and don't have a place to sit down and type.

  43. Did you just fart? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux software is no where NEAR the capabillities of the Windows HW recognition

    What? Software written for a particular platform is nowhere near as good as Windows being able to read the PCI configuration registers?

    Look, give us a call when you've finished Computing 101. Or English as a Foreign Language, whichever it is.

    1. Re:Did you just fart? by aed · · Score: 1

      I think he meant handwriting recognition, not hardware recognition :)

    2. Re:Did you just fart? by CKer · · Score: 1

      which Really is quite Nice in the tablet PC. actually using one Right Now. it is Rather Slow to work this way. although you Really have to watch your handwriting..(came out "B old Wily") the first time.

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  44. Recognition complaint by nhavar · · Score: 2

    The one complaint I've heard repeated hundreds of times is about text recognition. Most people are saying the text recognition is between 75-90%. Personally I've used a hacked e-pods with Caligrapher for over two years now and seen 98-100% recognition during that time.
    Having said that I will say there are some things I've noticed about writing habits (watching other people use the device). Some people like to write very small - for text recognition the bigger the better. Some people complaining about the recognition level can't write legible text i.e. I have a friend who will write something down for me and I can't read it. Two days later if I give him the same paper back and ask for an explanation he can't read it either. Recognition is relative.

    Gates wanted the recognition software to tailor to the user, but the product developers want the recognition to be more generalized and the users would have to adjust. Personally I think there has to be a compromise - people need to pay attention to penmanship and the recognition software should adapt somewhat to the individuals writing (much like speech recognition adapts to the individuals voice).

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  45. I dunno... by ryanvm · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I have limited faith in the potential of table-based PCs for one simple reason: I write like a fucking kindergartener.

  46. Mouse emulation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I tried a tablet PC for a few minutes at a MS booth during a mobile computing show and I have yet to figure out why they made everything so that you have to use the pen as you would use a mouse.
    When using a pen on a sheet of paper do you usually have to move the mouse pointer around or right-click with a button on your pen?

  47. this is not meant to be flamebait! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm just curious about this. How does the handwriting recognition on Tablet PC's compare to Apple's Ink in Jaguar? I saw a demo of Ink and it looked awesome.

  48. Nice but... by FJ · · Score: 2

    I really don't see much of a cost benefit over a high-end PDA. Sure it has more bells and whistles, but it is also heavier and not as compact. I use my Palm primarily for one thing. Reference. I store lots of notes there. I seldom edit them.

    I'd also like to see the durability of one. If it can't take some abuse then it will fail. It is too expensive to break if it drops on the ground.

    I really do hope it works because it would open up some interesting possibilities, but unless the price drops I really don't see it being a big seller. Don't forget that tech people will still be needed to fix problems which adds to the cost. There are backup & restore issues which adds to the cost. There are security issues where an expensive device vanishes (not to mention the data on it) and that adds to the cost.

    I'd also be curious to see how people who are not good with PCs react. Odds are they are comfortable with a pen and paper and would just as soon keep it.

  49. The next generation Picture Frame by jhines0042 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Tablet PC. I think I would like to get one and hang it on a wall. Then I could put pictures on it (in a screen saver like mode) and it will be plugged in so that battery life isn't important.

    Then when I need to control my MP3 Jukebox I can simply walk up to the "picture" and access my MP3 Jukebox (which I can control remotely) and request a new song.

    It would be like using a terminal in Star Trek!

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    1. Re:The next generation Picture Frame by koreth · · Score: 2

      If that's what you want, a hacked 3Com Audrey is a lot cheaper. Color LCD with touchscreen, networked, even runs a UNIX-ish OS. I have a bunch of them scattered around my house; they're great. They're about $100 these days.

  50. Recognition by TheAncientHacker · · Score: 2

    I'm guessing that when people here are saying that the text recognition is between 75 and 90% what they're really saying is that 75-90% of the time it gets everything they wrote correct. That's REALLY different than meaning it got 75-95% of the characters correct. (75-90% word recognition alone is more like 95-99% character recognition and 75-90% total recognition is 99%+)

  51. It's not the tablet that's expensive, it's the pen by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 4, Informative

    I went to a local CompUSA store with a co-worker who was very interested in buying a tablet PC. He currently lugs his laptop to meetings every day and he wants something a little more horizontal.

    There was one tablet on display, but no stylus to operate it. I tried using my PDA stylus to no avail. A salesperson eventually wandered over to help and said he'd have to go get the special pen they keep under lock and key. When he came back after a couple of minutes I asked why they didn't have it on some sort of chain so people could use it, he told me that the pens for the tablet PCs they stock sell for between $150 and $300 each depending upon the brand (they appear to be interchangable as we used a Toshiba pen on a non-Toshiba tablet) and they had already had two grow legs and walk away.

    As someone who has lost at least 3 PDA styli in the past few years (yes, I was one of those kind of geeks who bought a Pilot the first week it was released) I know it's just a matter of time before I would lose the tablet's pen, and there is no way in hell I'm going to tie myself to a PC that is useless without a $300 pen that can be lost that easily.

    After leaving, I got to wondering if the tablets could be used with the same kind of stylus that a graphics tablet uses, as those can be purchased for far less than $150. I'll need to remember to take my Wacom pen with me next time I go shopping...

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  52. No it's not.. by EnglishTim · · Score: 2

    This is an opensource forum with pro-free software people

    No it's not. It's just 'News for Nerds'.

    Yes, it has a pro-free pro-open-source software bent, but not to the exclusion of everything else. Don't assume that everybody here is a Linuxhead.

  53. Maybe in a year or two... by |/|/||| · · Score: 1

    I actually think that a tablet would be nice to use in some situations - e.g. as a "living room" pc on a wireless network. It has to get a lot cheaper, though, and it would be nice if the screen resolution improved.

    I don't know what the specs are on other tablets, but the one that AnandTech looked at had a screen resolution of 1024x768x16.
    1024x768 isn't terrible, but if you're simulating notebook paper it would be a lot better to double that in each dimension (not to mention if you're going to use it for artistic purposes). In addition to the resolution, the color depth needs to be bumped up to 24 bit.

    How many years will it be before I can buy one of these for under $1k with at least 1600x1200x24 resolution?

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  54. CrossPad? by Mr.+No+Skills · · Score: 1

    About $50. No voice regonition, but everything else.

    Link
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  55. Engineering sample--not the real thing by writertype · · Score: 1
    "Our engineering sample SlateVision came with an 800MHz Crusoe TM5800 processor, 256MB of PC133 memory, a Lynx 3DM8+ graphics chip, and a 20GB hard drive. Keep in mind that the specifications on the unit are said to be changing for the final shipping unit. The retail model is supposed to come with the 1GHz version of the TM5800 Crusoe processor and offer DDR memory; two items which should help speed noticeably."

    A review of a system should reflect the performance of the shipping product, or else it's just a preview. Especially when the product's specs are expected to change dramatically.

  56. One Question: by Blahbbs · · Score: 3, Funny

    How does one press Ctrl-Alt-Del with a Tablet PC? :-P

    1. Re:One Question: by TheQuestion · · Score: 1

      The Tablet PC hardware spec requires that any "pure slate" tablet have a "CTRL+ALT+DEL" button. XP requires you to enter that combination, as I'm sure you know, to enter it's "secure" mode for login switching, etc.

      --Lar

    2. Re:One Question: by daeley · · Score: 2

      You take your hand, tuck the thumb and pinky in so the middle three fingers are exposed, and trace them on the screen with the stylus.

      To shutdown, use just the middle finger. ;)

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    3. Re:One Question: by neo8750 · · Score: 2, Funny
      How does one press Ctrl-Alt-Del with a Tablet PC?

      turn it up side down and shake it much like an etch a sketch.

    4. Re:One Question: by NachtVorst · · Score: 1

      If you read the review all the way through page 10, there's a picture of the 'ctrl+alt+del' button ( http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/system/tablet/ FIC/SlateVision/buttons.jpg (minus any spaces introduced by the /code) , it's the button on the right).

      I'm sure it's just to enter in to secure mode, like the other poster said...;)

      NachtVorst

  57. Re:It's not the tablet that's expensive, it's the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thati is why some of them come with 2 stylus' when u buy it...

  58. Question by VoidEngineer · · Score: 1

    What's your definition of high end 3D, anyhow? Are you talking about a stereoscopic goggle system on your laptop, like in "SnowCrash"? I call that mainstream high end 3D, although it's not exactly mainstream on laptops yet. I do agree that it has definately reached the laptop market, however.

    For instance, CrystalEyes goggles were commercially introduced in 1978 for use on AIX and SGI workstations, as I understand. Although, computational rotary based goggles systems were being custom built by chemists for viewing of chiral molecules dating back to the 1950s. Anyhow, those 3D graphics were vector based, and typically were monochromatic and low resolution (240 by 320, similar to a television). So, by some dating systems, it's taken nearly 50 years.

    Anyhow, these PC Tablets are surely pushing a 600 by 800 resolution, with 16bit color, now days, due to LCD technology. I bet that these PC Tablets probably aren't going to be wanting for any graphic performance in regards to email, voice dictation, hand writing recognition, spreadsheats, and so forth.

    Lastly, isn't the point of tablet PCs to get away from the mouse and keyboard? Seriously, as long as there is a keyboard around, your computer is acting as a super powered typewriter; not as a graphics workstation, not as a database, not even as a punch card reader.

    My thinking is that there may be some comparison between apples and oranges going on here... similar to when auto manufactures introduce a new minivan, and the young folks say, "Well, geez, how am I going to win a race in this thing?" One person's junk is another person's treasure, after all...

  59. Absolutely Not OverHyped by VoidEngineer · · Score: 3, Informative

    I used to work at a computing cluster & cybercafe, which operated under the paradigm of collaborative computing. We had all the fun toys there, like tablet PCs, palmtops, high end 3D graphic stations, and everything in between. The lesson I learned about computers while working there is this: Due to the personal computer revolution, people typically conceptualize and use computers as one of two things: glorified typewriters or interactive televisions, depending upon their funtional goals. Both of these functional goals are rather sedintary in their usage.

    Tablet PCs are a major stepping stone in regards to mobile computing and collaborative computing. I don't mean to tell you what you do or do not like, but I suspect that you "really prefer your keyboard over a pen and screen combo" because you are doing a lot of typing, and not necessarily much else. If you were doing photo archiving, collaborative computing, pharmaceutical design, diagnostic imaging (MRI), or forensics work, a PC Tablet would be orders of magnitudes more efficient, ergonomic, and usefull than a keyboard.

    In environments where you have to be walking around a lot, such as in a hospital, a clinic, a research laboratory, or a research center, Tablet PCs are becoming the rage for good reason. The Hype is because they can be really, really usefull. One has to view tablets as 'compute and run' devices for them to be conceptually usefull.

  60. 1984 by zephc · · Score: 2

    I'm surprised that no one noticed several screenshots had references to 1984 by George Orwell. The reviewer having fun at MS's expense I guess.

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    1. Re:1984 by Gaurang · · Score: 1

      cool

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  61. Re:Tablet PC's` by mattyohe · · Score: 1

    "Because it is Microsoft! Gees, you call yourself a slashdot reader?" Please.. You haven't tried the recognition. I too was skeptical, but didn't knock it until I tried it myself. You "real slashdotters" need to lighten up and recognize that the world doesnt revolve arround linux, or yourself. Under any other name, this product would be cool to you, but because it's labeled Microsoft, you become intolerent. Im sorry I don't pride myself on hating microsoft. I don't remember that being the *point* of slashdot.

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  62. user review.. by Suppafly · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Penny-arcade had a decent review of atleast one tablet pc. On 2002-11-27 and 2002-11-28.

  63. finally.. by Suppafly · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I honestly don't understand why these weren't "invented" years ago. They are just touchscreen laptops that have the screen attached to the back. A lot of these tablet pcs even work like laptops except the lcd hinge is made in such a way they can be swiveled around and folded underneath.

    1. Re:finally.. by jpmorgan · · Score: 3, Informative

      The idea may be old and obvious, but the software and hardware necessary to make this kind of thing truly usable has only developed in recent years. There's a lot of Hard Problems(TM) with respect to user-interaction (good handwriting recognition, for one) that needed to be solved before they can be generally useful, and of course the hardware necessary to run the software.

  64. good - another user interface by spleenhead · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I always appreciate more options for entering data into a PC - and the Tablet PC is basically a laptop that offers another way to input data.

    just look around your desk where you work - see all those scraps of paper? you probably used them because its too much a pain to enter it in a computer. In my case, they are usually diagrams and drawings to help figure something out. No way could I enter those quickly and easily in a computer. no way can I easily search through all those papers for a specific drawing done a year ago. the Tablet PC offers this.

    for now, its a bit too expensive and probably not a good as it can be, but thats true of all new technology. in a couple years, it'll be just about right.

  65. Re:It's not the tablet that's expensive, it's the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I used to lose watches pretty frequently until I bought an expensive one :)

  66. Re:Underdogness? by BigBadBri · · Score: 1

    Try subcanitude - it's pleasingly Latin, unpretentious (hah!), and would also alliterate nicely with 'scrappy'.

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  67. My conspiracy theory by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1
    The WinCE devices running on XScale are slower than they should be. We know that Linux runs sweet on these devices. Why? Some of this is due to hardware issues that you can work around in software. So why has M$ not made moves to do this?

    TabletPC is Uncle Bill's pet project and has been for many years, so clearly it will get hyped big.

    The WinCE devices clearly also compete in the sub-laptop space. The WinCE devices have almost all the required features, but have improved battery life. Thus, fixing the WinCE devices to let them run at full speed would erode TabletPC. This would piss off Bill and seriously undermine all that ass-kissing you'd been doing.

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  68. Anybody try an io? by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone out there have or try one of the Logitech io's? This seems to be the real solution for note taking.

    I've got an old CrossPad as well and it was a great compromise between the new Tablets and regular old pen and paper. The best thing is that you always had a hard copy of whatever you wrote no matter what. I imagine getting an application crashing error after an hour or two of taking notes would absolutely suck.

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  69. The needs of A Real Job. by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Interesting
    For any of the tasks you mention a TabletPC is the wrong thing. A thin-client slate is far better.

    Nobody wants hostpital records, warehousing inventory etc done and stored on a heavy local harddrive. Nope, you want them stored back on the server. THus no need for the local harddrive (cost, size, weight, battery life).

    For any real job you need better battery life that can take you through a whole work day.

    In no real organisation will the BigBoss sign up to supply the blue-collar types with the latest most fancy and expensive computers..

    Jslate and aquapad-style devices are far more suited to this kind of role.

    They'll sell a few TabletPCs to the BigBoss who wants the coolest toy in town. That's it.

    M$ have screwed up every effort they have made to move off the desktop. This is mainly because they into a new field and try to force the Microsoft Way onto folks without understanding their needs. Unfortunately they have deep enough pockets to dominate (force out of business) anyone with real solutions.

    TabletPC is about Microsoft's sixth attempt in mobile space, why should this succeed when all their other attempst have failed? Naah, TabletPC can join the junk-pile with WinCE, Windows for Pen, Stinger for phones, CarPC (or AutoPC) and all their other stuff.

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    1. Re:The needs of A Real Job. by jpmorgan · · Score: 2

      If at first you don't succede, try try again.

      If at second you don't succede, try try again.

      If at... ah hell, you get the picture.

      They're bloody persitent, you've got to give them that. :P

  70. I'm disappointed with Anand's review... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where are the Unreal Tournament 2003 and 3DMark 2001 benchmarks?

  71. Umm... hello?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called Unix?? Unix had this 30 years ago!!

    1. Re:Umm... hello?? by TheAwfulTruth · · Score: 3, Informative

      Unix had a tablet pc based remote desktop 30 years ago?

      Windows has also hade remote desktop services built in and available as add on software (PC Anywhere) for as long as windows has been existance. This is not about remote desktops as a posibility, this is about a complete hardware unit that allows you to take your remote desktop with you wirelessly for short distances from your computer. It is less, but also about using a pen to it's fullest (so far) as a UI tool instead of a mouse or keyboard.

      Unix did not have THIS 30 years ago.

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    2. Re:Umm... hello?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you replied to a bot post. I've seen this guy post this exact same post to pretty much every slashdot story

  72. Durability by bkrrrrr · · Score: 1


    My progear is more durable than any clamshell laptop I've seen, largely because there's no hinged screen to bust. It also has magnesium shell and rubber bumpered ends to protect it. It's extremely tight and solid. Being light helps prevent damage, too.

    bkr

  73. Tablet PC: good idea for the business community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does most of the /. community seem to think this thing will tank? You think how *YOU* would use it, and not think of the broad picture.

    When I read about this, I instantly thought of the sales people in my organization. Instead of going about the aisles, writing stuff down, and then taking the paper to a terminal to write up a sale, they could take the tablet and get everything done and have the pick ticket waiting when they get back to counter where the customer is. It would also be great for inventory time.

    I see the salespeople really using this. Imagine car salespeople being able to call up a model list without having to leave the parking lot (thanks to the WiFi built into many of these devices). Lots of possibilities, as long as the software and hardware companies back it.

    Don't diss it because it's got Windows.

  74. Re:It's not the tablet that's expensive, it's the by jpmorgan · · Score: 2
    The screen on a TabletPC is just an LCD panel sandwiched between a protective sheet and a wacom tablet. =)

    So yes, I'd expect a wacom pen would work.:P

  75. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the only sane and insightful post yet on this topic.

  76. What about forumlas? by Barraketh · · Score: 1

    The article says that very little formatting is preserved when converting to digital text. What about scientific forumlas (roots, subscripts/superscripts etc)? This could be an amazing tool for university students. My handwriting is horrid - i'd much rather look at beautifull typed text than at my ugly notes. It is much faster to type text then to write it. However, writing formulas is much slower on a computer than by hand. While you can already write the formulas on the tablet pc, without converting to digital text this is just a glorified binder with digital paper instead of real. If it converts the formulas properly though - THEN it's definitely something that I would like to have.

  77. NO we want opensource tablets by ftide · · Score: 1
    no more microshit, inside or out.

    here's my article at OSOpinion.com

  78. I took a close look at one ... by telstar · · Score: 2

    ...when I dropped it off of the display stand at CompUSA. Damn thing slipped off the metal stand it was on and took a plunge towards the floor (and my foot which swung out to catch it). A real-life example that so far, these things can withstand a 4 foot drop.

  79. 2 questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) does it have IR?
    2) when does omniremote come out for win32?

    This thing would be a really nice thing for my home theater. Use it as a movie database looker-upper, mp3 remote, and such...

  80. Re:It's not the tablet that's expensive, it's the by GiorgioG · · Score: 1

    Please note, those $150-$300 pens at CompUSA can be had for $50 (for the Compaq model anyway) elsewhere. Supporting CompUSA is pure sin.

  81. Re:It's not the tablet that's expensive, it's the by stickb0y · · Score: 1

    Both are expensive. It's not as if the stylus were 90% of the cost.

    AFAIK, most of the tech is in the tablet itself, not the stylus.

  82. hate to point to the obvious by lingqi · · Score: 2

    what's wrong with chaining the pen to your TABLET? I suspect those ID holders (one with stretch-strings for access cards, company IDs, etc) seem perfect for the job. a little ghetto-rigged, but for the forgetful - hey beats 300 buxs eh?

    i mean, i wouldn't suspect you'd use the pens anywhere else later anyhow.

    and also - maybe you lose palm styluses (styli?) because they are cheaper? I can say the same thing like "i will never buy one of those 300 dollar Cartier or S.T.Doupont because I keep losing my BICs!" but that's just not true - knowing that i have shelled out massive dollars for the pen, I am (would be, anyhow) much more careful with it.

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  83. OT: Re:MilSpec Ruggedized Windows Tablet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    built to Military Environmental Test Standards

    Military standards? Does that inspire confidence in anyone who has actually been in the military?

    A (U.S.) Marine showed me her military standard laptop: the exhaust fan was flush with the bottom of the unit, and there were no feet on it. As a result, when you put the unit on a flat surface (like a table), the exhaust was completely blocked.

    She told me, 'we go into battle with equipment made by the lowest bidder'.

  84. other pen device - not a computer by yuvtob · · Score: 1

    Didn't see anyone mention this (probably cause it's not that close to the TabletPC), but there's this product from Logitech called IO Personal Digital Pen which is 200$, and does something similar yet different. While it is not a computer - meaning you can't access information, or run applications - it is an input device for handwritten data.
    The basic idea is that you write using a special pen that has a optical camera near it's tip, on special paper that has dots on it to tell it where it is. The pen records it's movements to memory, and later you can dump it on your computer. (I think it was also featured in a Wired edition about a year back).
    Once again, while it doesn't replace a computer, and there is the drawback of carrying/buying special paper, but it seems an interesting product; While I am not a computer-on-the-go user, I believe that it is extremely useful to digitize-save-archive written data (notes, diagrams, equations) - and not just for students (which seems to be /. main choice for tablets). The only analogy I could think of is my sister's use of her digital camera: while at first I was looking at the resolution of the camera and my printer and calculating costs of each print, I later found out that she takes about a 100 pics per-month, and saves them on the disk and share over the internet, thereby changing my original thinking of a digital camera as a camera which you can develop your prints with...

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  85. Question: Disk drives? by Ijada · · Score: 1

    I've been wandering around Microsoft's "Hardware Showcase" and reading the review on Anandtech, and I have a question... If all the disk drives are external - USB or optionally in a docking station - how the heck do you do a complete format and reinstall of your OS?

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