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Re:Maybe it is a good thing
This is actually a real theory. It is thought that polio is less likely to be a serious problem if you are exposed in infancy. Insufficient exposure to bacteria is also proposed as an explanation for the increase in asthma in developed countries
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Re: the U.S. is in a legal state of war - WRONGMuch of the information in your post is simply wrong. Regarding the "Authorization of Force" vs "Declaration of War" issue, Robert Turner, co-founder of the Center for National Security Law at the University of Virginia School of Law, writes:
For constitutional purposes, the joint resolution passed with but a single dissenting vote by Congress on Sept. 14, 2001, was the equivalent of a formal declaration of war. The Supreme Court held in 1800 (Bas v. Tingy), and again in 1801 (Talbot v. Seamen), that Congress could formally authorize war by joint resolution without passing a formal declaration of war; and in the post-U.N. Charter era no state has issued a formal declaration of war. Such declarations, in fact, have become as much an anachronism as the power of Congress to issue letters of marque and reprisal (outlawed by treaty in 1856). Formal declarations were historically only required when a state was initiating an aggressive war, which today is unlawful.
It's the reason they couldn't prosecute Jane Fonda for treason during the Vietnam war - there was NO LEGAL STATE OF WAR - it was a "use of military force".
Wrong again.
If they did declare war, they would be bound by the Geneva Convention, which would mean George Bush would be prosecuted as a war criminal for the torture at Abu-Garaib.
You are wrong on two counts:
A country is bound by the Geneva Convention once it signs the treaty, declaration of war or not.
Much of what is associated with the infamous acts at Abu Ghraib were conducted by rogue soldiers who have already plead guilty or have been convicted and are being punished, or faced other administrative action, as appropriate. The Army had already stopped the criminal acts by those soldiers and was already investigating them when it was publicized in the press.
Your views are commonly held, but wrong. -
Re: the U.S. is in a legal state of war - WRONGMuch of the information in your post is simply wrong. Regarding the "Authorization of Force" vs "Declaration of War" issue, Robert Turner, co-founder of the Center for National Security Law at the University of Virginia School of Law, writes:
For constitutional purposes, the joint resolution passed with but a single dissenting vote by Congress on Sept. 14, 2001, was the equivalent of a formal declaration of war. The Supreme Court held in 1800 (Bas v. Tingy), and again in 1801 (Talbot v. Seamen), that Congress could formally authorize war by joint resolution without passing a formal declaration of war; and in the post-U.N. Charter era no state has issued a formal declaration of war. Such declarations, in fact, have become as much an anachronism as the power of Congress to issue letters of marque and reprisal (outlawed by treaty in 1856). Formal declarations were historically only required when a state was initiating an aggressive war, which today is unlawful.
It's the reason they couldn't prosecute Jane Fonda for treason during the Vietnam war - there was NO LEGAL STATE OF WAR - it was a "use of military force".
Wrong again.
If they did declare war, they would be bound by the Geneva Convention, which would mean George Bush would be prosecuted as a war criminal for the torture at Abu-Garaib.
You are wrong on two counts:
A country is bound by the Geneva Convention once it signs the treaty, declaration of war or not.
Much of what is associated with the infamous acts at Abu Ghraib were conducted by rogue soldiers who have already plead guilty or have been convicted and are being punished, or faced other administrative action, as appropriate. The Army had already stopped the criminal acts by those soldiers and was already investigating them when it was publicized in the press.
Your views are commonly held, but wrong. -
Re:So only minor stat-based consequences, then.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181268,00.htm
l Scroll down to 'Mouse-House Tale Has More Holes Than Swiss Cheese.'
Sounds like the mouse probably didn't feel any pain...
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Re:Hype time already?
Or just maybe the BS CNN article was posted in retaliation to the BS Fox News story from the day before?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,180072,00.html
Fox's idea of a large margin between Narnia and Kong being only 1.3 million dollars. :rolleyes: -
Re:Those bastards
Apparently the main outrage comes from ICAAN reassigning control of the little used .iq Iraq domain from two Palestinian immiagrants living in the US, currently in jail after being convicted on a variety of charges resulting from their supporting terrorists organizations, and giving control to the Iraqi government (which just had an electionwith unexpected support). This seemed to have fairly strong support on Slashdot just a few months ago. It was viewed as a positive thing in Iraq.
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Re:Intelligent Design tantamount to teaching relig
What is sad now is that Dover PA has to pay legal costs for this farce. This is going to hurt the education of the children in this small town for years to come. These idiots should be run out of town on a rail.
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Re:I dont 'get' RSS
is RSS really important enough to put into the OS?
Sure it is.
I have the following RSS feeds for Firefox in my Knoppix remaster:
BBC News
Yahoo News
Slashdot
Google News
ABC News
FOXNews
Linux Today
Rapidweather Blog
I have just the one blog, mine. While I view a web page, I can quickly drop down the various stories from these feeds by just waving my mouse cursor across them. If I do see something I might want to read, I click on it. I get a lot of news scanned for interesting stories quickly with those seven feeds. The Rapidweather Blog RSS feed is there for others to check out, I already know what's there ;-)
I'd put more RSS feeds there, but I need the browser to fit 800x600 as well as 1024x768.
Oh, wait. Here's an interesting story now:
Disneyland Christmas Tree Catches Fire. -
Don't let the squirrels know to take those lights!
From last year's stories, Foxnews and CHannelCicinatti.com (video clips included, but don't know if they still work). Taken from AQFL.
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Re:Mod parent trollAnd how did they do that, denouncing the illegal invasion of Iraq, which lead to the current ongoing train wreck in said country?
Among other things, how about France's illegal trade of oil with Iraq against the UN sanctions and Oil for Food programs? Or perhaps their ongoing (since 1975) campaign to outlaw the use of English words in french advertising and government and scientific papers, like the word "email" because it's too English?
France and the french (yeah, I've been there several times on business) are a bunch of snobs who regularly thumb their noses at America, so screw 'em. There are just a few examples of how France is responsible for their own reputation over here.
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Re:code
Don't cry bloody murder every time something happens that you don't 100% approve of (and that goes for the grandparent just as much as you)
Sorry, I learn by immitating, and when all of my "leaders" in society exhibit this behavior I'm inclined to do just the same. Dear Google, the tides they are a changing. Hang on tight. -
Re:Palpatine loses oneAnd why was he elected in the first place? because of US military activity and Bush ridiculing the country. Reported on Fox, nonetheless: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160070,00.htm
l :Iran's spy chief used just two words to respond to White House ridicule of last week's presidential election: "Thank you."
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Massachusetts Should Close Down OpenDocument
Written by Jim Prendergast, executive director of Americans for Technology Leadership. Microsoft Corporation is a founding member of ATL.
This article is filled with so much bullshit it's difficult to know where to begin rebutting it:
OpenDocument applications would have to be built from the ground up.
Pure FUD. Applications already exist that implement OpenDocument. In fact, OpenOffice is mentioned in the article right in the next paragraph! Anyways, adding a new file format or converter to an existing application is easy enough to be trivial.
Massachusetts may be aligning with what becomes a second-rate file format as Microsoft
keeps expanding into XML and metadata and OpenDocument may have trouble keeping up.
Yeah, we all know Microsoft are the ones "innovating" with XML and those who choose an open format will be left out of all the great new proprietary lock-ins that MS will come up with. Give me a break. Reality is, if Massachussets goes with an open format, other states will follow, and Microsoft will do their best job of implementing it poorly to try to kill it. Same... as... always... (yawn)
The policy promises enormous and unnecessary migration costs to Massachusetts' taxpayers.
Yes it does. And so do Microsoft's closed formats. The difference is, this cost is basically one-time. Those other costs are recurring and arbitrary.
Businesses, organizations and citizens who interact with the state will also be forced to support Massachusetts' mandated technologies.
And they already do. The difference is, this mandatory technology is open and can be implemented by anyone, for free. Microsoft's mandatory formats require you to use Microsoft products, on a Microsoft operating system, on a computer built by a Microsoft partner.
Government is not directly in the business of innovation, but it should support policies that drive innovation.
So, do paved roads stand in the way of innovation? Should government outsource that as well? Are we really expecting a growth of *innovative* new ways to exchange text?
The main advantage to using Microsoft products in an office environment is that, in large measure, these products provide very reliable interoperability and rich functionality. Since most of our users are not IT experts, such interoperability and functionality are critical to the day to day operation of our offices.... We are unaware of any organizations with which we exchange documents that use products such as OpenOffice or StarOffice.
Obviously, not IT experts. Sounds like they don't even have IT personnel. Not even halfway knowledgeable users. They don't realize that OpenOffice and others do an exceptional job of reading and writing Microsoft's reverse-engineered proprietary file formats. And they think sticking with those file formats is the way to foster "interoperability". Ah, well, I should expect nothing less from an article written by yet another Microsoft shill. -
FUCK CHRISTMAS
Oh man, fuck Christmas.
Seriously - are you kidding me with this "There's a war on Christmas" bullshit? FOX News wasn't raking in enough cash already from all the Christmas commercials for Kill 'em All Barbie and Girls Gone Wild Brand Toddler Gear ? They had to start publishing books about some bogus attack on Christianity? And who did they pick to lead this particular charge?
John fucking Gibson. This guy has wiener written all over him.
Bill O'Reilly gets all the credit as the biggest nutcase in FOXville, but Gibson really deserves his own special wing in the happy house. This motherfucker's embedded assignment reads "Up Karl Rove's ass."
What makes him such a dick? I mean, besides making a fortune by screaming hysterically about how oppressed Christians are by the other twenty percent? How about advocating bombing countries that don't vote the way we want in their own elections? Way to encourage democracy, fuckhead. And maybe he was kidding when he wished, on air, that the French had gotten the 2012 Olympics instead of the Brits so the terrorists would "blow up Paris," but it might have been just a touch over the top to call for it again on the day of the London train bombings. Classy move, asshole.
And really? That's just scratching the fucking surface. Anyone remember who was responsible for the bombing of the Federal building in Oklahoma City? John does: Iraq. And speaking of Iraq, Gibson thinks Rove deserves a fucking medal for outing that CIA agent. And, like any good reporter, he wanted to burn the Florida ballots after his buddy Bush got "elected" rather than, I don't know, count them? "Is this a case where knowing the facts actually would be worse than not knowing?" That right there is why sometimes it's useful for journalists to go to, what do you call that fucking place? Oh yeah, journalism school.
And now he's all worked up about Christmas being stolen. What is this, the fucking Fairytale Network? It's a national fucking holiday and we're spending gobs of our hard-earned tax dollars on wreaths and lights for your special Santa day. But these bastards are all "But they call them Holiday trees!" Here's a clue: no, they fucking don't. Ok, maybe in a couple places, like on FOXNews.com and at the White House, but if Christmas is under attack, I'm Kris fucking Kringle.
And guess who's stealing Christmas, according to Gibson. Go on -- guess. "A cabal of secularists, so-called humanists, trial lawyers, cultural relativists, and liberal, guilt-wra
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FUCK CHRISTMAS
Oh man, fuck Christmas.
Seriously - are you kidding me with this "There's a war on Christmas" bullshit? FOX News wasn't raking in enough cash already from all the Christmas commercials for Kill 'em All Barbie and Girls Gone Wild Brand Toddler Gear ? They had to start publishing books about some bogus attack on Christianity? And who did they pick to lead this particular charge?
John fucking Gibson. This guy has wiener written all over him.
Bill O'Reilly gets all the credit as the biggest nutcase in FOXville, but Gibson really deserves his own special wing in the happy house. This motherfucker's embedded assignment reads "Up Karl Rove's ass."
What makes him such a dick? I mean, besides making a fortune by screaming hysterically about how oppressed Christians are by the other twenty percent? How about advocating bombing countries that don't vote the way we want in their own elections? Way to encourage democracy, fuckhead. And maybe he was kidding when he wished, on air, that the French had gotten the 2012 Olympics instead of the Brits so the terrorists would "blow up Paris," but it might have been just a touch over the top to call for it again on the day of the London train bombings. Classy move, asshole.
And really? That's just scratching the fucking surface. Anyone remember who was responsible for the bombing of the Federal building in Oklahoma City? John does: Iraq. And speaking of Iraq, Gibson thinks Rove deserves a fucking medal for outing that CIA agent. And, like any good reporter, he wanted to burn the Florida ballots after his buddy Bush got "elected" rather than, I don't know, count them? "Is this a case where knowing the facts actually would be worse than not knowing?" That right there is why sometimes it's useful for journalists to go to, what do you call that fucking place? Oh yeah, journalism school.
And now he's all worked up about Christmas being stolen. What is this, the fucking Fairytale Network? It's a national fucking holiday and we're spending gobs of our hard-earned tax dollars on wreaths and lights for your special Santa day. But these bastards are all "But they call them Holiday trees!" Here's a clue: no, they fucking don't. Ok, maybe in a couple places, like on FOXNews.com and at the White House, but if Christmas is under attack, I'm Kris fucking Kringle.
And guess who's stealing Christmas, according to Gibson. Go on -- guess. "A cabal of secularists, so-called humanists, trial lawyers, cultural relativists, and liberal, guilt-wra
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FUCK CHRISTMAS
Oh man, fuck Christmas.
Seriously - are you kidding me with this "There's a war on Christmas" bullshit? FOX News wasn't raking in enough cash already from all the Christmas commercials for Kill 'em All Barbie and Girls Gone Wild Brand Toddler Gear ? They had to start publishing books about some bogus attack on Christianity? And who did they pick to lead this particular charge?
John fucking Gibson. This guy has wiener written all over him.
Bill O'Reilly gets all the credit as the biggest nutcase in FOXville, but Gibson really deserves his own special wing in the happy house. This motherfucker's embedded assignment reads "Up Karl Rove's ass."
What makes him such a dick? I mean, besides making a fortune by screaming hysterically about how oppressed Christians are by the other twenty percent? How about advocating bombing countries that don't vote the way we want in their own elections? Way to encourage democracy, fuckhead. And maybe he was kidding when he wished, on air, that the French had gotten the 2012 Olympics instead of the Brits so the terrorists would "blow up Paris," but it might have been just a touch over the top to call for it again on the day of the London train bombings. Classy move, asshole.
And really? That's just scratching the fucking surface. Anyone remember who was responsible for the bombing of the Federal building in Oklahoma City? John does: Iraq. And speaking of Iraq, Gibson thinks Rove deserves a fucking medal for outing that CIA agent. And, like any good reporter, he wanted to burn the Florida ballots after his buddy Bush got "elected" rather than, I don't know, count them? "Is this a case where knowing the facts actually would be worse than not knowing?" That right there is why sometimes it's useful for journalists to go to, what do you call that fucking place? Oh yeah, journalism school.
And now he's all worked up about Christmas being stolen. What is this, the fucking Fairytale Network? It's a national fucking holiday and we're spending gobs of our hard-earned tax dollars on wreaths and lights for your special Santa day. But these bastards are all "But they call them Holiday trees!" Here's a clue: no, they fucking don't. Ok, maybe in a couple places, like on FOXNews.com and at the White House, but if Christmas is under attack, I'm Kris fucking Kringle.
And guess who's stealing Christmas, according to Gibson. Go on -- guess. "A cabal of secularists, so-called humanists, trial lawyers, cultural relativists, and liberal, guilt-wra
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FUCK CHRISTMAS
Oh man, fuck Christmas.
Seriously - are you kidding me with this "There's a war on Christmas" bullshit? FOX News wasn't raking in enough cash already from all the Christmas commercials for Kill 'em All Barbie and Girls Gone Wild Brand Toddler Gear ? They had to start publishing books about some bogus attack on Christianity? And who did they pick to lead this particular charge?
John fucking Gibson. This guy has wiener written all over him.
Bill O'Reilly gets all the credit as the biggest nutcase in FOXville, but Gibson really deserves his own special wing in the happy house. This motherfucker's embedded assignment reads "Up Karl Rove's ass."
What makes him such a dick? I mean, besides making a fortune by screaming hysterically about how oppressed Christians are by the other twenty percent? How about advocating bombing countries that don't vote the way we want in their own elections? Way to encourage democracy, fuckhead. And maybe he was kidding when he wished, on air, that the French had gotten the 2012 Olympics instead of the Brits so the terrorists would "blow up Paris," but it might have been just a touch over the top to call for it again on the day of the London train bombings. Classy move, asshole.
And really? That's just scratching the fucking surface. Anyone remember who was responsible for the bombing of the Federal building in Oklahoma City? John does: Iraq. And speaking of Iraq, Gibson thinks Rove deserves a fucking medal for outing that CIA agent. And, like any good reporter, he wanted to burn the Florida ballots after his buddy Bush got "elected" rather than, I don't know, count them? "Is this a case where knowing the facts actually would be worse than not knowing?" That right there is why sometimes it's useful for journalists to go to, what do you call that fucking place? Oh yeah, journalism school.
And now he's all worked up about Christmas being stolen. What is this, the fucking Fairytale Network? It's a national fucking holiday and we're spending gobs of our hard-earned tax dollars on wreaths and lights for your special Santa day. But these bastards are all "But they call them Holiday trees!" Here's a clue: no, they fucking don't. Ok, maybe in a couple places, like on FOXNews.com and at the White House, but if Christmas is under attack, I'm Kris fucking Kringle.
And guess who's stealing Christmas, according to Gibson. Go on -- guess. "A cabal of secularists, so-called humanists, trial lawyers, cultural relativists, and liberal, guilt-wra
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Of course..
Fox News jumps on a chance to give us gamers some negative publicity. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178130,00.htm
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Re:Question:
Market deregulation is good and all until someone wins outright and gains the monopoly then you'll be complaining about the skyrocketing prices and bad service
Put the blame where it belongs, on a government regulators that for the past 20 years has allowed for unprecedented consolidation in numerous industries. The high prices of cable TV, oil and telecom services show how this consolidation has done nothing good for the customer. Regulators should have stopped collecting bribes from the companies and instead applied some logic. Everyone knows that fewer companies providing a product or service with constant demand leads to higher prices.
Donald Trump had the right idea when he said
How come they allowed Exxon and Mobil to merge? Who was the genius that said these two big oil companies could merge, OK?.
He's right on the money here. -
Affaire Americaine
'"This means that oil imported into the U.S. financed about 52 percent of the illegal surcharges paid to the Hussein regime
... These percentages roughly correspond to the percentages of Iraqi oil sent to the U.S. and elsewhere during this period," Berkovitz said '
In other words, America accounted for more of the Oil for Food scams than everyone else combined, even excluding foreign proxies for Americans. I think the French word for that is "touché", or maybe "merde de taureau". -
Re:Solution...
The United Nation is not a for-profit organization? Really?
were arrested over bribery involving millions of dollars
in which one U.N. staffer, Alexander Yakovlev, was convicted in a Manhattan federal court this past August
step down from his post Monday amid allegations that he and the governing
Bailey's Compass Sacks Three Execs In UN Scandal
Germany Shocked by Damning Report On UN Scandal
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Slightly misinformed
It's a little of both, I'm afraid:
According to this news article, it's some residents of the city that are suing. Admittedly I didn't find the source before posting. I basd the posting on my recollection of a conversation with a friend. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170468,00.html
HOWEVER, I believed it because of the ongoing assault on Christian's rights from the ACLU which I have seen again and again:
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/11/01/desert.cross .ap/
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/27/ten.commandments /
http://www.aclu.org//religion/tencomm/16298prs2000 1012.html
http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpag e=1&id=91429
The constitution says "congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion" When a county puts up ANY display, that's a county matter, not a federal one. Where are the rights of the states? GONE!
Why does the ACLU regularly file suit on issues like government properties allowing the display of Christian religious symbols AT CHRISTMAS when the VAST majority of people in this country celebrate that at LEAST as a secular holiday. Is it really oppressive? No way! This kind of thing makes me sick!
What does the Boy Scouts having their jamboree on federal property have to do with the establishment clause? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! The Boy Scouts having 'under God' in their oath is NOT the state establishing a national Christian religion.
Non-ACLU assaults
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/venrtura.htm
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/wtccross.a sp
Here's the point, these are NOT about getting the state to endorse my religion. What it IS about is that there are a majority of people (still) who agree with the vast majority of Christian belief and practices, and who are not negatively affected by the city, county, state or feds recognizing that these ideas are consistent with community standards and offer some value to the community at large. Also, the facts are that the 10 commandments have a unique relationship to the rule of law in our country and it's revisionist history to claim otherwise.
Let's be clear, persecution of Christians for their religious beliefs DOES occur. Predominantly this is at the hands of atheistic or Muslim governments. More than 150,000 Christians were killed last year for their Christian beliefs. (Source: Missionary to Indonesia speaking at my church - not available on the web. This number is consistent with other sources I have heard.) What's happening here is not persecution. What is happening here is that the culture is becoming more intolerant and hostile to my worldview. Others may disagree, but I have observed management in my company tell people that they cannot discuss religion at work. This is a violation of free speech rights regardless of religious views, but there's a fear and perception that recognition of religious belief at work is unacceptable. It's only going to get worse and worse.
Do you believe that when the school system rents a church facility to have graduation (because school facilities are not big enough to handle the event) that this is the state sponsoring religion? What if the "church" is a synagague, mosque or temple? Frankly I would absolutely NOT care if the school system rented and atheist-owned hall for graduation. If my kids' worldview was going to be damaged by one incident in one location one time, my world view would be pretty indefe -
Re:Duh!Blockquoth myself:
You would love O'Reilly vs Donahue. I hope Phil runs for office someday.
Wow. I just read the Fox version. It wasn't the original version that I had read. Here's the one I read. The difference is subtle but interesting. A round of spin for everyone! -
Re:Duh!
You would love O'Reilly vs Donahue. I hope Phil runs for office someday.
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Re:Blog? Blech ...
Yeah, they sure a bunch of losers. Not contributing a damn thing to society, just uselessly wanking about how much their dog ate and why their friends from high school don't write. Serious people only get their news and information, from trusted, reliable sources.
Seriously, what the hell is it about blogging that inspires such hatred in some people's hearts? Too many of you guys got ex-girlfriends with Livejournal accounts?
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Re:Not ...... exactly.
That approach would not work because we already have extant species such as alligators that have not advanced for millions of years-- and this is attributed to them having a highly optimized design. They are certainly efficient killing machines, at least as long as you keep them away from pythons.
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Re:Yes, and stripper girlfriends
Where's the RIAA when you need them! Lawsuits against these pirates are sure to follow!!!
Pirates Attack Cruise Ship
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Re:Younger, Smarter... Fairer! Balanced! Not!
All I want is content, and I know there are still places to find it
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Re:The history of DDT
Hey, genius, how about this:
But when DDT is available, the results are nothing short of spectacular. Indoor spraying with DDT, for example, reduced malaria cases and deaths by nearly 75 percent in Zambia over a two-year period and by 80 percent in South Africa in just one year. DDT works like nothing else - there's simply no doubt about it.
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Re:The history of DDT
I see I have been modded down to 0. Why I waste my time here on slashdot I have yet to figure out. Folks, DDT could be saving millions of lives in Africa, but folks like you prefer to stand around with your thumbs in your rear ends and let it happen even though a simple solution has existed for decades. Please read this article:
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Re:The history of DDT
Wow, dude, pass that joint over here
....
Dude, I'd say you've been massively hoodwinked. It took me all of two seconds with google to find this:
http://www.junkscience.com/ddtfaq.htm
Now, that article is a bit long for you, and if you don't have time to read it, please at least read this:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,173766,00.html
Don't worry, Fox News has dumbed it down to your level, dude.
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Re:Try and stop it... it's so unfortunate.
But I bet you'll be happy to see the ACLU and its lawyers when someone tries to block something you do want to see.
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Kool-aid drinkers
"First off, yes, it is a crime to leak the name of an undercover agent (or any other classified information) regardless of intent."No, it is not.
Yes, it is. It's called "mishandling classified information" and you don't have to even leak it. Hiding notes about classified information in your socks suffices (remember Berger?). The whole point of having a system of classified information is that the people entrusted with the information aren't supposed to tell unauthorized people about it. Whether their intent is to impress their girlfriend, or burn a political adversary, or win a prize on a radio quiz show, or just make smalltalk while waiting in line at the theater doesn't matter.
As for the rest of your post, you might want to sniff the kool-aid you're drinking before you start calling names.
--MarkusQ
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Re:Wilma Is Not Global Warming
You're probably right. I can definitely see Big Oil getting together and hiring a cabal of slashdot astroturf posters to troll with stories from the Fox news website. The group opinion here is certainly important enough to bother with that, and this sort of thing is very swaying.
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Re:Is Allard still working for MS today?
re: your sig
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Re:You can't block the CEOLOL!!! Sorry I was just reading a good article about the sociopathic bosses. Always love those. Turns out they ARE the most informed. Ok just kidding.
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Re:Wow!
If you look at the temperature trends for the Arctic region since 1880, it appears that the Arctic generally warmed somewhat until about 1938. From 1938 until about 1966, the Arctic cooled to about its 1918 temperature level. Then, between 1966 and 2003, the Arctic warmed up to just shy of its 1938 temperature. But in 2004, the Arctic temperature again spiked downward.
See article here.
Now if the 1880-1938 warming trend had continued up until this day, there certainly would be some significant warming in the Arctic region to talk about. From 1918 to 1938, alone, the Arctic warmed by 2.5 degrees Centigrade. But the actual temperature trend is much different, showing that there's been hardly any overall temperature change in the Arctic since 1938.
Not only does the temperature data contradict the claim that global warming is overtaking the Arctic, but data on greenhouse gas concentrations ought to drive a spike through the heart of the claim.
During the warming period from 1880 to 1938, it's estimated that the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide - the bugbear of greenhouse gases to global warming worriers - increased by an estimated 20 parts per million. But from 1938 to 2003 - a period of essentially no increase in Arctic warming - the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide increased another 60 parts per million. It doesn't seem plausible, then, that Arctic temperatures are significantly influenced by atmospheric levels of greenhouse gases.
And even when the Arctic re-warmed between 1966 and 2003, the warming occurred much less aggressively (about 50 percent less) than the 1918-1938 warming and at about the same rate as the period 1880-1938, despite much higher greenhouse gas levels in the 1966-2003 time frame.
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Re:Isn't it obvious...
Cheers - that was extremely interesting, but hardly conclusive.
Taking your links one-by-one:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/06/05/iraq.mai n/
"U.S. Marines and Iraqi soldiers have uncovered a 503,000-square-foot underground insurgent hideout in central Iraq containing large stores of weapons, ammunition and supplies" - no WMDs there. I don't think anyone's trying to say Saddam didn't have underground facilities, but "Eek, he may have a few holes in the ground!" isn't doing anything bad, and the reason Bush gave for invading - WMDs (and terrorism!) were. No WMDs here, so it's pretty irrelevant. Finally, even worse, "it is not yet known if the bunker was built by Saddam Hussein's regime or if the insurgents created it from the remnants of the quarry".
http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/declassdocs/cia/199605 17/cia_65175_65173_01.html
Direct quote form the article: "Subject: UNDERGROUND FACILITIES IN IRAQ
Not Finally Evaluated Intelligence... CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
WARNING: INFORMATION REPORT, NOT FINALLY EVALUATED INTELLIGENCE".
Given the extremely dubious information typically initially reported in situations like this, and the humongous warnings plastered all over the report, isn't it just possible that this was an inaccurate initial report, that was perhaps proven wrong by later intelligence or analysis?
Wait a moment - I just noticed... This dates from January 1991 - it's from before the first gulf war. Saddam was known to have (and have used) chemical weapons (which, guess what, he got from the USA, amongst others - fourth paragraph). However, in the aftermath of the Gulf War, he was instructed to destroy all chemical and biological weapons, and cease any production or research of future ones. No-one's denying he had (and used) them fifteen years ago, but he was forced to destroy the lot, and this is simply not evidence that he still had them in the Gulf War II.
Did you not notice the date, or was this intended to be deliberately misleading? I don't mean to call your integrity into question, but so far you're 0 for two.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html
I'll see your Fox News link, and raise you a statistically-proven right-wing propaganda bias: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News#Controversie s_and_allegations_of_bias
(Particularly the paragraph "Reports, polls and studies").
Hell, I'll also raise you a direct quote from the article: "However, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said the results were from a field test, which can be imperfect, and said more analysis was needed. If confirmed, it would be the first finding of a banned weapon upon which the United States based its case for war". so, if Even Rumsfeld is casting doubts on the authenticity of the results, show me the article where it's confirmed, or I'll have to disregard this as a credible piece of evidence.
Oh, and if you want to dispute Fox's known and pronounced right-wing bias, please, please, please also read this.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic le/2005/08/13/AR2005081300530.html
"Monday's early morning raid found 11 precursor agents, "some of them quite dangerous by themselves," a military spokesman, Lt. Col. Steven A. Boylan, said in Baghdad". This is very different to finding actual w -
Re:Isn't it obvious...
Stop attatching political affiliations with every idea, and stop treating people with disdain simply because they have opposing views to yours, it simply implies ignorance on your part.
As far as huge underground bunkers go, read this(present evidence) and this(past evidence).
As far as chemical warfare goes, read this(present evidence), this(more present evidence over a year later), and this(past evidence).
If you're still too stubborn to admit that my original response might have an ounce of validity, go read about Iraq's previous tactics in recent wars... the U.N. told them to be good and Iraq ignored them, what made you think that Iraq all of the sudden became this nice little peaceful nation over a decade of time? Saddam had it coming.
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Re:Nice joband have appended a correction to the earlier version of the story.
Really??
Where on that original page is the correction?
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Checking out the old article
Which was at this link
It appears they do acknowledge their mistake at the bottom but it's not a major change.
However Fox News has always tried to maintain a fair and balanced version of the news, and it's good to see they did update the article, and has shown a good amount of the support for the move. Some of the points they make are more damming than the entire article (hell the fact they show it's 5 K to 50 K is impressive)
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Hi slashdot editors
Can you read a bit the article ?
From the header of the fucking article : "Time Warner's chief executive has denied reports that it may be about to sell a stake in its America Online (AOL) unit to Google and Comcast."
Fuck it really, slashdot is a total waste of time now.
Slashdot used to have some informations, now it's just garbage, slashdot is as worse as FOXNEWS ( hello the Japanese mafia using a Russian-made electromagnetic generator to launch terrific storms against the U.S. mainland => http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170064,00.html ).
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Zines would be considered Journalism
We have let a madeup word blur what a journalist is.
Has I have owned the domain http://www.zines.com/ for well over 8 years, See BTW below. I would guess it qualifies me as well, but my role has been more as an editor then journalist. Of bloggers, I would say they could be journalists. But Blogs are closer to being like Punditry. Un-original, un-researched, regugitations.
However, I can't see the test being anything that could exclude them from calling themselves journalists. If the laws say X number of stories in Y timeframe that isn't workable.
The test shouldn't be, did the person write stories that where "printed" on-topic to what they are trying to get protection. If somebody wrote a few fiction stories or opinions then went out an slammed a politico for some misdeed without showing clear proof. If they claimed Journalistic Privledge, then that a fair indication they are not covered. That falls into slander, if they can provide some documentation, like signed checks or pictures that's proof. Protect the source is one thing, have no proof is another.
A pundit should not be covered, they don't report anything. Unless your Bob Novack and your reporting on the identity of a undercover CIA agent. Or using the cover of a reporter to "report" for a fictious "News Organization" in the whitehouse press corps. I am slamming Novack because he's not reporting anymore. He's a full blown pundit. A pundit is a puppet.
Republican bashing aside, Air America barely squeaks by as a Actual News 0rganization. They do research, they report and opinionate much to the same degree like, I grudging admit Fox News is also an Actual News 0rganization.
Where as Talon "News" fails completely. From Wikipedia;
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The Standing Committee of Correspondents, rejected Gannon's application for a Capitol Hill press pass because of Talon News'lack of independence from a political organization. Committee chairman Jim Drinkard wrote in his letter:
The application for accreditation to the press galleries states that "members of the press shall not engage in lobbying or paid advertising, publicity, promotion, work for any individual, political party, corporation, organization, or agency of the Federal Government." Talon News has not demonstrated to the satisfaction of the committee that there is a separation from GOPUSA/Millions of Americans.com.
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Gannon was a blogger, but not a journalist. Other more topical orgnizations like http://www.circusnews.com/ are journalistic in nature and I would think that one of their self imposed limits would be where their reporter strayed off the topic (in this case Circuses) and into say Astronomy. Nothing really incendiary there (heh heh), however it's outside their organizations obvious field. This does NOT make it NOT NEWS, If that was to be an opinion piece in Astronomy, is the reporter from Circus News still covered as a Journalist? I would think in that case, no. If they were to report on any subject that could be construded as a legitimate news story then it's still a legit story by an 'employed' reporter. Just outside Circus News' normal market.
Likewise if a so called 'Blogger' wrote a real news story then they are acting as a journalist. A blogger should be seen in much the same light as the difference between a Taxi Driver and Your Mom. Both can drive you somewhere, like a hospital or a friend's house, but the diffence boiled down is one get's paid to do it as a profession (unless your Mom is a cabbie). But both can drive.
The test for a Journalist should be in the simplest term;
If you are acting as a Journalist at the time, then your a Journalist. If your using the claim to cover most crimes then your not one. It would get gre -
Guatemala
Plus the mudslides in Guatemala, which I haven't seen news of in the U.S., but then maybe my timing was off. It is listed over to the scrollbox to the side on http://foxnews.com/
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Actually, the Editors at Fox agree with you!While FOX probably fulfilled their obligation, listing someone as "Executive Director of Americans for Technical Leadership" is more misleading than it is helpful. If I were not inclined to look much further I'd infer from that organization's name its mission was to advocate best applications of technology. Maybe ATL thinks that about themselves, but if you know anything about ATL they (especially the author) are clearly are Microsoft shills.
Actually, it looks like the final verdict is that "You were Right, I was Wrong" (How often do you see that on Slashdot?); Fox didn't adequately fulfill their obligation... and even admits it. From a followup article over at FoxNews:
The column "Massachusetts Should Close Down OpenDocument" that appeared on FOXnews.com Sept. 28 identified author James Prendergast as executive director of Americans for Technology Leadership, but failed to disclose that Microsoft is a founding member of that organization.
ATL is a coalition of technology companies, professionals and organizations that advocates for limited government regulation of technology and for competitive market solutions to technology policy. In addition to Microsoft, ATL's founding members include Staples, Inc., CompUSA, Citizens Against Government Waste, CompTIA, Small Business Survival Committee, Clarity Consulting, Cityscape Filmworks, Association for Competitive Technology and 60Plus Association.
Mr. Prendergast's affiliation with Microsoft should have been stated clearly in the article.
It looks like the Fox News editorial board has standards and/or pretensions to serious journalistic ethics. I think I need to go lie down.... -
Re:FoxNews?
indeed clickety....
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Re:Nice flaming headline.
How do you argue against the fact that Bush has spent more on the poor than even Bill Clinton (now before you bash the Fox News link, are the stats stated within false?).
Fox News is one thing, but Bill O'Reilly? I wouldn't trust him to tell me what the weather is outside. Unless you can find another source, I'm going to assume that Bill O'Reilly simply pulled those "facts" straight out of his ass. -
Re:Nice flaming headline.
It has to do with the fact that he is a dangerous neo-con with absolutely no regard for the opinions or suffering or others. (emphasis added)
This is complete hogwash. You can no more prove this "fact" than the original poster can prove that Bush is only attacked because he is a Christian. How do you argue against the fact that Bush has spent more on the poor than even Bill Clinton (now before you bash the Fox News link, are the stats stated within false?). Now you can call Bush incompetent for his FEMA appointment and slow reaction. You can question his decision to go to war in Iraq (but remember that congress backed him on it). I personnally don't like the way he spends money like a teenager at the mall with their daddy's credit card. But you cannot make the claim that he doesn't care.
Have you spoken with him personnally? Do you know the reasoning behind his decisions? Have you seen his personnal reaction on receiving the news that another American soldier has died in Iraq? No, neither of us have. We cannot see what is going on in his heart. We have only his actions, and even those we don't see directly but rather through biased reporting -- whether it be CNN, FOX News, ABC or the BBC. The fact that he has called for so much spending for the poor and aid for hurricane victims would argue strongly that he does seem to regard the well-being of people -- or at least the "opinion" of the American public. I think that Bush cares very much about people, but like many caring people in this world, the way in which he tries to express it is flawed.
There are a lot of things that Bush has done that can be considered bad, but not caring is not one of them. Can you be absolutely sure that you actually care more?
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Re:Check out the OpenDocument author...
PS - See below for the Fox Editor's acknowledgement of the fact that Fox made a serious error: the author's affiliation with Microsoft SHOULD have been disclosed. Which was my point that you claimed to have 'eviscerated' with some unrelated assertion about Linus.
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Re:James PrendergastTo be honest, I didn't fully expect them to respond or take any action. To my most pleasant surpirse, they did respond (in a timely manner no less) and actually took corrective action. Color me amazed. I have to give FOX News credit for actually listening to my complaint and for filling in the ommission. The easy way out would have been to just ignore my letter. Kudos to them.
Thank you for writing.
The column "Massachusetts Should Close Down OpenDocument" http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170724,00.html > that appeared on FOXnews.com Sept. 28 identified author James Prendergast as executive director of Americans for Technology Leadership, but failed to disclose that Microsoft is a founding member of that organization.
ATL is a coalition of technology companies, professionals and organizations that advocates for limited government regulation of technology and for competitive market solutions to technology policy. In addition to Microsoft, ATL's founding members include Staples, Inc., CompUSA, Citizens Against Government Waste, CompTIA, Small Business Survival Committee, Clarity Consulting, Cityscape Filmworks, Association for Competitive Technology and 60Plus Association.
Mr. Prendergast's affiliation with Microsoft should have been stated clearly in the article.
An Editor's Note is now displayed on our Web site:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170724,00.html
and the disclosure has been inserted at the end of the original article:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170916,00.html
We are compiling the best responses to publish a rebuttal.
FOXNews.com