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You're comparing worldwide sales to US registrations, derp.

You fail.

In 2018, Ford sold 909,330 F-Series pickups in the U.S. alone. In 2017, Americans purchased 896,764. And in 2016, U.S. car dealers sold 820,799.

https://www.freep.com/story/mo...

Derp back at you. Fucking ACs sure are dumb.

"Unscheduled learning opportunities"
Good lord take the sock out of your mouth you inhuman fuck

I don't know if this sounds soooo bad. It could be used as a more polite title for all the articles fact-checking presidential rally speeches and tweets -- or, literally, just about anything he says. For example, from Trump says Great Lakes have 'record deepness':

I support the Great Lakes. Always have. They're beautiful. They're big. Very deep. Record deepness.

(a) The Great Lakes are not among the deepest lakes in the United States, let alone the world. The deepest lake in the country is Crater Lake, a volcanic crater in southern Oregon with the deepest measured depth of 1,949 feet, according to Geology.com. Lake Superior is the Great Lake with the largest surface area in the U.S. at 31,700 miles. Its maximum depth is 1,332 feet, but it doesn't make the record books. (Even Lake Superior itself agrees.

(b) His 2020 fiscal budget proposal calls for a $270 million cut to the $300 million Great Lakes Restoration Initiative, according to The Detroit Free Press. So he doesn't actually support them.

That's the lie you're still stuck on?

That was just an example. Which one are you stuck on?

He incapable as a human being of being.. [expletive deleted] I don't even know the a good word to use... decent?

Do I think Trump's decent? Not really--I wish act more dignified. From what I've seen though, it's usually the left that is behaving indecently, whether it's the women's march, the histrionics over the Kavanaugh hearing, or some of their upstanding elected officials. You can't claim the moral high ground here.

How can you be the "victim party" that faces everyone's bias and be the party in power?

Gerrymandering.

How the GOP Rigs Elections
Republican Ruthlessness and Democratic Ineptitude Got Us Here
Five myths about gerrymandering
How Michigan is an extreme example of gerrymandering
Supreme Court favors Republicans in gerrymandering cases
N.C. has the worst gerrymander in US history. What else is new?
The Atlas Of Redistricting

The driver population of Teslas is likely to be a lower-risk population than other vehicles in the first place. You also have to factor in that you're comparing a small number of vehicle models against all other vehicle models. What happens if you compare against other brands individually? Try this report for instance - there are 9 non-Teslas out there with zero deaths per million passenger miles (and several others with more than 100!). Interestingly it is "economy" cars that have higher rates than expensive cars - which supports my theory that the demographic is likely an important factor, not just the vehicle.

That's an interesting link, but I can't help thinking that 0 is a very misleading number to use there, particularly because this isn't deaths per million passenger miles, it's deaths per million registered vehicle years. And consider the methodology:

"Although the latest numbers reflect 2011 models, the study included data from earlier-model year vehicles as far back as 2008 if the vehicles weren't substantially redesigned before 2011. Including older, equivalent vehicles increases the exposure and thus the accuracy of the results, the institute said. To be included, a vehicle must have had at least 100,000 registered vehicle years of exposure during 2009-12, or at least 20 deaths."

That article in particular highlights the highest and lowest death rates, which is basically the least reliable meaning to be found in this report - it's no coincidence that many low-sales vehicles are present on both the high and low end of the spectrum. Many of the zeros would have just barely squeaked into being included (considering the ~20k/yr sales on the Mercedes SUV) which means that you're reporting 0 deaths per million vehicle years on data of only 100k vehicle-years.

Based on those statistics you should estimate the rate to be 10 deaths per million vehicle years (basically assume that there was one observed death for the 100k vehicle years you have data on). If they wanted to report this more accurately, they would include the uncertainty - due to the nature of statistics on low-frequency events, there are very large error bars on these estimates. IIRC, the uncertainty on an event count of 0 or 1 will be around 10x in either direction - so really, the "true" value of the Mercedes death rate based on those stats is likely to be somewhere between 1 and 100 deaths per million vehicle years.

The reverse case is also a problem - the Kia Rio also had fairly low sales to be included in the study, so there were probably around 15 total deaths for 100k vehicle-years, which could mean the vehicle (or its average driver) is dangerous, or it could be a statistical outlier. Since we do have some actual observations in that case, though, we have less uncertainty to account for, so the "true" rate is probably somewhere between 100 and 200.

Bottom line - those figures are probably pretty reliable for your Honda Civics and Toyota RAV4s and other vehicles with a high number of vehicles and high number of observed events, but for vehicles with low sales figures, and especially for vehicles with one or zero observed events, we can't say with any confidence that the number is lower than 100 deaths per million vehicle years.

For what it's worth, it used to be my job to estimate how often an event would happen even if we didn't observe it in the test data - which is basically this same situation.

Removing responsibility for driving functions comes with the cost of lost freedom of the driving functions. You are now at the mercy of those who decided how things should function, rather than your own choices.

It doesn't even matter if the automatic choices are statistically better (e.g., lower crash rates, more efficient driving, etc.); they still impose a loss of freedom.

Which is better - safer but less free, or more free but less safe? I suppose society at large will make an aggregate decision there, but I'm guessing it will be an emergent choice rather than an informed one.

As an aside - those crash statistics aren't really comparable because there is inherent selection bias among the drivers. The driver population of Teslas is likely to be a lower-risk population than other vehicles in the first place. You also have to factor in that you're comparing a small number of vehicle models against all other vehicle models. What happens if you compare against other brands individually? Try this report for instance - there are 9 non-Teslas out there with zero deaths per million passenger miles (and several others with more than 100!). Interestingly it is "economy" cars that have higher rates than expensive cars - which supports my theory that the demographic is likely an important factor, not just the vehicle.

They got a huge tax break instead of an all-but-guaranteed tax hike.

Yeah, actually not. Clinton's plan contained significant cost reductions for people making under $50K/yr. Under trump, we got tax cuts for millionaires and tax bills for the middle class.

Unemployment is way down.

Not for rural whites. In fact, its still so bad for them that Michigan republicans are trying to exempt them from their draconian medicaid work requirements.
Also, those people at that Carrier plant that he "saved?" Yeah, they got fucked.

The stock market is way up.

(A) Doesn't mean squat for majority of people because they don't own stocks.
(B) Rate of growth in the stock market is slower than it was under Obama.
(C) China has stopped buying soybeans. Not just tariffs, full stop, buying em from somewhere else. China is the #2 largest market for US soy and soy is the #2 US crop export.

Denuclearization, peace, and potential reunification in Korea,

Not anything to do with trump. The sanctions only resulted in a ~20% increase in black market currency exchange, showing that it wasn't a big deal for a country that survived the great faminine of the 90s on nothing but Juche. Moon Jae-in is leading trump around by the nose. Though I guess you could say the fact that trump is so easily played by Moon is a point in trump's favor. So sure, promise that gloryhound a nobel prize if that's what it takes to keep him from screwing up everybody else's work.

Tons of sex cults and human trafficking rings have been broken up.

Ah, so now you reveal yourself as one of those RWNJ dumbasses. In fact, its the nothing of the kind. If anything, they've been cracking down on easy targets - adult sex-workers, not trafficking victims. Meanwhile Trump knowingly endorsed an actual pedophile.

Corrupt leaders and former leaders of many countries are actually being brought to justice.

Yeah. Putin. Duterte. Netanyahu MBS They've all been locked up!!! Yay!

The wall is being built.

Lol. He couldn't even get his own republican party to pay for it. Much less mexico.

Next year there will be no unconstitutional personal mandate for health insurance.

Yay! That's already working out so great for republicans.
Never mind how he totally fucked rural whites with empty promises about the opioid epidemic.

What's your proposed model for testing an autonomous car driving amidst normal traffic conditions that does not include actually having it drive among normal road traffic?

Secondly measured in terms of accidents and fatalities, autonomous cars have already caused less accidents per miles driven than your average human driver, so if that's your metric, the argument can be made that said bar has already been passed

There are entire test sites for self-driving cars. Once your car meets some standard in the test site, you could then take it on the road. https://www.freep.com/story/mo... Autonomous vehicles, in general, may be safer than ones operated by the average human driver. But that doesn't mean that the *Uber* vehicles are safer than ones operated by human drivers.

It appears that Waymo and such have done a great job getting their vehicles as ready as possible before putting them on the road and, as a result, have a great safety record. Uber just slapped a bunch of components together probably using technology that they "borrowed" from competitor without understanding, put it on the road, and watched the failures pile up. Their failure rate is one per 13 miles vs Gogole's one per 5k miles. Now there are some thing that make those not a perfect comparison but even giving Uber an order-of-magnitude benefit of the doubt, their cars are still awful dangerous things that don't belong on the road. That's different than saying no autonomous cars belong on the road.

(districts with more D votes than registered voters discovered by Jill Stein)

Please do your homework before perpetuating partisan myths. There is no evidence of "more votes than registered voters" in any of those precincts. Not even close.

Thank you.

... just not in the places she needed them.

Just watched 'The Australian interview' where she describes the bitterness of realizing millions of people hate her, which she blames on an misinformation campaign conducted mostly on Facebook. In her eyes, she won the public debates so the people should have voted for her. She was criticized for being 'soft on herself' with an example being her abusive attitude towards Trump supporters. Her attitude was 'Look at which people Trump cares about now (eg. neo-nazis): I was right'.

Good God, Hillary has turned into a delusional harpy.

Just. Go. Away.

Hillary is an inveterate liar with horrible political instincts - just go through the different versions she went through over her email server. First there wasn't one. Then there wasn't any emails on it. Then there weren't any classified emails on it. Then there weren't any emails marked classified. And so on, keeping the story alive for a whole damn year, because every few weeks more evidence would come out that proved Hillary's previous statements were, ummm, inconsistent with the facts as they were now known. In short, she repeatedly lied about her email server. Period.

Do you really think Hillary didn't go to Michigan or Ohio or Pennsylvania as the election approached because she didn't know what was happening? Like hell she didn't - she knew. Obama even spent the day before the election in Michigan campaigning for Hillary. Do you think Obama would have spent the Monday before the election in Michigan if Democrats didn't think it was critically important?

She KNEW the Rust Belt states were going to be close.

So why didn't Hillary go? Because when she made appearances there, her support DROPPED. (I actually saw an analysis of that phenomenon a few weeks after the election - unfortunately I can't find it now.)

NOBODY TRUSTS HILLARY. Period.

NOBODY LIKES HILLARY. Period.

They vote for her because the agree with her politics, unlike Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, truly personable and likeable people. And those two likely got a lot more votes because of that. Hillary will never get those types of votes - with Hillary, you vote for the policies, not the person.

Hillary has been a public figure for 25 years. A mere $100,000 spent on Facebook ads fully 24 years into her public life didn't change an entire nation's opinion about her.

Hillary was probably the ONLY Democrat who could lose to a blowhard like Trump. The only reason she won the Democratic nomination in the first place was because she'd bought off the entire Democratic Party apparatus, and after Obama surprised her in Democratic the caucuses in 2008, HIllary had her thugs in place to squash Bernie in Iowa.

Seriously - if you could pick any one Democrat to be President, would Hillary REALLY be your first choice?

"The union represents more than 12,000 casino and gaming workers, 25,000 higher education workers, 16,800 state of Michigan employees and 11,000 John Deere employees."

8 things about UAW you might not know

The Dems constantly try to dismantle charter schools because their outcomes are worse than public schools, and they also siphon funds away from public schools, bringing their results down too. That's what happened in Michigan when DeVos pushed charter schools, and that's what's going to happen now that she can push her agenda nationwide. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/betsy-devos-michigan-school-experiment-232399 http://www.freep.com/story/news/education/2017/06/18/charter-schools-profit-performance/393071001/

WTF: "Teachers in government schools are rarely held to any standard."

I guess you don't live in Michigan.

1. 
   Tenure is gone.
   Pensions are gone.
   Seniority is gone.
   Teachers are evaluated yearly according to a state approved evaluation model and if they are not ranked proficient two years in a row, they can now longer teach their grade or subject.
   Salaries are flat and losing ground against inflation.
   Health care costs are skyrocketing. Try living on $20,0000/year with a $3,000 health care deductible and student loan debt.
   Teaching standards increase every year and the standardized tests are a constant moving target.

Then if your school doesn't perform well on standardized tests, the state will shut you down, unless you are a charter, then you get a free pass.

You need to keep up with the times.

There is so much accountability, that we are already in a teacher shortage situation and it is only going to get worse. The richer districts are already recruiting (stealing) the best from the poorer districts. Some schools will start the year tomorrow will long-term substitutes.

Keep on bashing teachers and schools, just look forward to a day where you can't find one for your local government or charter school. It won't matter though, the state will just allow alternative certification and it will allow anyone to jump into the classroom.

There is also a shortage of bus drivers and substitute teachers.

I believe and I do believe I am right, that a strong democracy is built on strong public education.

Unfortunately, our teachers and schools are under constant attack but Besty DeVoss has a plan, unlimited for-profit schools and vouchers. If we keep going, we can transform into a bigger mess than the healthcare system!

Have you ever noticed that charter schools mostly teach elementary students? Very few charter high schools exist because teaching older kids is more expensive due to the cost of extra curricular content and sports. In addition, charters tend to mis-identify special education students as they cost more money to educate due to support services.

Some charter schools are for-profit. The for-profit model rewards management and investors by depriving the students of the resources that they need to get a Free and Appropriate Public Education (FAPE). In addition, for-profit schools deprive public schools of the resources that they need to teach all students. while simultaneously concentrating special education students.

Charter schools in our State accept public money without accountability, transparency, or academic achievement. This abysmal failure has been brought to us thanks to Betsy DeVos, and it is coming to your State soon.

In 158 precincts, the number of ballots tabulated by the optical-scanning voting machines was inexplicably less than the number of people who signed in to vote. At least 362 ballots were not counted in those precincts, even though the voters had been listed in poll books.

Then why did Jill Stein request a recount in three states?

Well they say the first stage is denial... or maybe it was just desperate hope that a manual recount would change the outcome. After all, why only do it in three states? If it was a real allegation of voter fraud, the she would not have said this:

Stein has said she has no evidence of fraud going into a recount of ballots in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan, but wants to ensure the integrity of the election.

But it certainly wasn't a widespread belief of the entire group called "the Left".

In Michigan and Wisconsin, adultery is a felony. In other states it may be a misdemeanor. And yes I know cheating on a partner is not always equal to adultery... well maybe it is in North Carolina, where adultery is when two people "lewdly and lasciviously associate."
http://www.freep.com/story/life/family/2014/04/17/in-which-states-is-cheating-on-your-spouse-illegal/28936155/
I do agree there are legitimate needs to hide some info. And you are spot on with your conclusion.

Wait, Underperforming compared with one of the most destitute Public school systems in the nation, after cherrypicking the most profitable students?
That really helps your case.
Not
Selective quote mining didn't help DeVos case either, since those massive failures were HER company schools

Trump still won. And guess what, that state does not use electronic voting machines. Here, read for yourself:
http://www.freep.com/story/new...

And even if Hillary were granted( cheated ) Wisconsin and Pennsylvanian -- which btw was rampant with voter fraud that favored Hillary -- she would NOT WIN.

And should we go in and remove the 3+ MILLION votes from Illegal Aliens, which you can bet your ass were for Hillary? What about the 4+ million votes for dead people that have been discovered -- which is probably on both sides, but so far the only people arrested were casting votes in favor of Hillary?

It's Turkey day! Eat and be happy! Let's make America GREAT again, for I'm Tony the Tiger!

Jesse Jackson sez...

they're washed up in politics and it's really not worth it.

That's just not true. They are drowning in money. The flow has not dwindled one bit.

And Trump will need her advice once Kissinger kicks the bucket.

Trump needs Hillary's advice for WHAT?!?!?!

How to marry Bill Clinton? Because that's pretty much the entirety of Hillary's accomplishments.

The fact that she was able to ride that to the cusp of the Presidency is more a comment on the low standards we place on our pols than anything else.

Jesse Jackson sez...

they're washed up in politics and it's really not worth it.

That's just not true. They are drowning in money. The flow has not dwindled one bit.

And Trump will need her advice once Kissinger kicks the bucket.

No, just that they're bad at water management.

See also: Flint, MI.

Which was being run by a fiscal emergency manager appointed by a Republican governor [Snyder], backed by a Republican House and Senate, and overseen by a Michigan Department of Environmental Quality run by a Snyder hack [Wyant], where the state agency and not the city was responsible for the technical decisions and implementation of a switch to Flint river water (without adequate corrosion control).

Blaming democratic officials for the lead contamination is like blaming your wife for failing to dodge your fist.

Pardonne-moi si je t'aime

How tone deaf must you be to announce that you're wiping out all small car production in the US and moving it all to Mexico at the height of a campaign that features the most vociferous anti-NAFTA candidate ever? Trump's Michigan win is smaller than the number of employed US citizens Ford is about to discard with that move. If you can think of a more effective way to get the attention of a "Reagan Democrat" please let us know, because I sure can't.

It's called daily life in the USA.

I'm a little, tiny person. Religious extremists can be extremely physically intimidating. As in, if one came at me, no gun required, I would be lucky to wake up in the hospital instead of dead. I'm somebody who prefers to just walk away, and I respect the wishes of business owners who don't need my money. I wouldn't draw on somebody just for being intimidating, but I can see how angry the xtians have been getting over this gay marriage bullshit. I was honestly surprised that our shooter was a moooooslim and not an xtian. It's only a matter of time really before an xtian flips out and kills people. Maybe once bathroom laws start getting struck down. Then you'll start to see a lot more violence from big guys who feel the need to rough up and assault people to protect the cisfemale hunnies... even when the person they're injuring is cisfemale.

Living around so much mental illness, willful ignorance, and high strung emotions that leads to religious extremism means that being a gay with a gun is the only way to be if one is gay.

Sounds like a Union on the wireless side would level the playing field.

Or it would just cost those people their jobs in the long run, as Verizon moved on to something else, somewhere else.

Even Ford, which has "worked with" their Unions for years, even avoiding BK 8 years ago...

http://www.freep.com/story/mon...

Can't afford to keep "working with them".

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As I said, the rules of the game mean that unions are not effective anymore, not against what corporations have become.

Only changing the rules of the game will help.

Already done and done in Detroit:

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/05/18/pedestrian-killed-hit-run-crash-detroit/84533226/

What's the tech/geek tie-in? What's the point of coming to a 'news for nerds' website when there are other much better sites to get the same news?

Well, she did design the Eli & Edythe Broad Art Museum, which was used for a location in the new Batman vs. Superman movie. Is that geeky/nerdy enough for you?

You really fucking believe Michigan is an Islamic state?

You are a complete fucking idiot. You are so deep in your own fucking delusions that somebody puts out a poor attempt at satire concerning Dearborn and *poof* we've got them mooslims all over the place and state-wide Sharia law!

That being said, since you are a complete fucking moron, let me try to keep this simple. We have Jihadists here in Michigan all right. They're the Michigan Militia. They practice Christian Identity. And you better betcha they want their own version of Sharia law. Just a few months ago some gender non-conforming friends and I had to deal with the "Merry Christmas" jihadis. It could have been worse. We've got people ready to rough up any cisgendered woman who would have the temerity to have short hair!

I'm really hoping my sarcasm detector is just low on tea. I mean, seriously, what the fuck? How can I take any of this shit seriously? Have conservatives gone this far off the fucking deep end? Why don't you head over to Dearborn some time? It's one of the wealthier suburbs in the Detroit/Ann Arbor region. The only Muslims we have are the ones providing tasty ethnic food.

In my local community in a redder part of the state, we mostly have a population of Hindus. I used to live just down the road from a Hindu cultural center that held services every Sunday. I never really inquired, but I have about the same apathy concerning the saner Christian denominations.

Whatever delusions make you happy. Just don't be surprised that the next person you try to rough up on suspicion that they're part of the gay agenda to make Christmas illegal or enact Sharia law has a concealed weapon. That's not a threat as long as you keep your mental illness limited to just shouting crazy shit at people in public and making yourself look like an ass.

Actually, this particular problem was caused by the State appointed Emergency Manager attempting to save money without regard for the lives of the people who live there. There is some dispute about this reported in a Detroit Free Press article. But it seems pretty clear that local representation would have had incentive to avoid this problem.
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It is an illegal action against the individual members of AshleyMadison.com, as well as any freethinking people who choose to engage in fully lawful online activities.

According to this, adultery is illegal in 21 of the 50 United States.

Ashley Madison as at the very least being hypocritical, considering their business is probably guilty of criminal conspiracy for its actions in those states.

Whew, I clicked this article in a hurry, all ready to be incensed about the unnecessary comment targeting "A place you would NEVER move to!" As the Golden Girls say, thank you for being a friend. I cannot speak directly about the job opportunities offered to a tech worker, but, for Bob's sake, it is inaccurate, passe, and just about rude to use Detroit as a whipping boy, especially in a way unrelated to the article at hand. The connotation here is clear, that nobody would relocate to Detroit because Detroit is Detroit. How dare you use an out-dated stereotype as a significant talking point of your summary? Detroit as a city and Detroiters as Detroiters are picking themselves up by their boot-straps and it is glorious. Large companies are championing the city; for example, friends of mine are working downtown for Quicken Loans. That company is actively encouraging employees to live in city limits in various ways, one of which is practically paying their rent entirely with subsidies. Shinola is proud to be more involved in the city. I am not necessarily a fan of the casino industry but we are known as a top 5 US destination. Ah, and from my morning Fox2 news, here is a more nationally recognized entity that hasn't felt like kicking those who are down and trying, and doing great- http://www.freep.com/story/ent... Detroit, #3 of 10 of up-and-coming restaurant cities. I can't lie, being a Detroiter out of state gives you a certain notoriety, even in metropolises like Chicago, but we are not just the background for Robocop. Things are happening here, going great, and I am just so proud to be a part. There is so much positive action happening here in south-east Michigan period in so many ways, & the fact of the matter is that a disturbing amount of people with stereotypical bad things to say about Detroit weren't even a twinkle in their parent's eye when the events happened here that gave them their impression. The riots are over. My parents were young at that time. Detroit is not the Wild West. Act right, and you'll be so pleasantly surprised by the neighborly attitude that Detroiters present to one another, including strangers. Get real. Drop the effing snide tone. Come by.

was joined by Google CEO Eric Schmidt at the launch of DOT's "Beyond Traffic" initiative

Because, What's good for Google is good for the country! .

I guess your opinion of "run roughshod" differs from that of the local liberal Detroit Free Press.
http://www.freep.com/story/opi...
And, how quickly he moved the city through bankruptcy.
http://www.freep.com/story/new...

Detroit had been run into the ground through massive corruption and democratic policies. And now you're going to complain that someone cleaned up the mess?

I guess your opinion of "run roughshod" differs from that of the local liberal Detroit Free Press.
http://www.freep.com/story/opi...
And, how quickly he moved the city through bankruptcy.
http://www.freep.com/story/new...

Detroit had been run into the ground through massive corruption and democratic policies. And now you're going to complain that someone cleaned up the mess?

The local weatherman, if he/she is a meteorologist, looks at several commercial models, the NWS models and adjusts due to his professional experience in an area, he/she is unlikely to go anywhere hell Sonny Eliot (Sonny Idiot) was on the air for 63 years.

Recently a Tesla Model S was stolen from a dealership and destroyed, and they haven't figured out how the guy managed to do it.

Detroit collapsed because people left as the auto industry there was collapsing. This had nothing to do with welfare. Also there was the whole thing with white flight which drastically drove down property values. Corruption of city officials and mismanagement of funds also contributed. However, if the pensions were adequately funded as they were supposed to be, then Detroit would be fine today. http://www.freep.com/interactive/article/20130915/NEWS01/130801004/Detroit-Bankruptcy-history-1950-debt-pension-revenue

Yeah just don't go.Financially, it makes absolutely no sense. You're in wage competition with people who have zero debt from other nations. Guess who wins? Your ,student loans are 100% unbankruptable and the price for college is set by the amount of money lenders will lend, which is basically everything you'll earn over your lifetime, since, as I said, the debt is unbankruptable.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/ripping-off-young-america-the-college-loan-scandal-20130815

Universities take that money and hire another level of administrators, give them all raises, build golden palaces for them to work in, build 5 star shopping malls / food courts, erect modernist pieces of architecture to house privately run research facilities and of course spend lavishly on their athletic programs , including more state of the art construction , high six digit salaries for everyone etc. etc.

This is what your student loans pay for. This is what the lifetime of debt you pay for goes to fund. This is the system the US has lying in wait for people who are, as Matthew Tabbi put it, people who are barely not children. An amount of debt that will push you into a life of literal indentured servitude before you even start of f in life.

http://www.freep.com/article/20130822/BLOG25/308220135/student-loans-debt-rolling-stone

This is purely predatory and the fact that the predation is by seasoned adults who understand the system and upon naive children who have been told since birth by the people they trust the most, most recently by Obama himself , that "college is the best investment you can make." , the fact that that is the predator -prey relationship says everything you need to know about higher education in America and America itself. From the housing crisis to the student loan bubble to the credit default swap to the savings and loans bailouts, it's a series of traps into which the naive are lured and pushed for the benefit of the sophisticated, the rule writers, the rich.

Don't go. You'll have incredible freedom. There is nothing at university you'll learn that you can't learn for free online. You and your friends can make your own way in the world if you don't have crushing debt waiting to seize everything every time you get ahead even a little. If you're not forcibly chained to an slave oar of a job that takes everything you have to give and leaves you with nothing to put into your own life at the end of the day.

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/8/20/matt_taibbi_us_student_loan_bubble

There are a million ways for young people to arrange themselves in this world , a million ways waiting to be invented discovered, tried and iterated upon in order to gain knowledge, have access to resources, advance themselves and establish their market value that don't involve college and the unbankruptable crushing debt. Just do it. Everyone. Just invent it. Just try it. No opportunity is passing you by by trying until you get it right. You have nothing to lose. Nothing at all.

Oops, forget the DFP Link.

but having to swap forbidden books using flash drives dwarfs whatever first-world problem crawled up your posterior and made you feel like you could ever possibly understand what it is like to live in a mind-controlling, life-or-death, blighted country like Cuba.

forbidden books, mind-controlling, life-or-death, blighted...

whatever first-world problem crawled up your posterior

I rest my case, your honor.

To kill a bunch of school-age children like this all you need are assault weapons and a credit card, both of which are readily available and take little smarts, planning, or money.

Best we can tell, he used pistols not an assault rifle. Even the headline is counter to the actual story. But why not "sell" the story instead of report the facts (comment aimed at the news source)
"Three guns were found at the scene — a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols — and a .223-caliber rifle. The rifle was recovered from the back of a car at the school. The two pistols were recovered from inside the school." http://www.freep.com/article/20121214/NEWS07/121214046/Source-20-year-old-suspect-had-ties-school-gun-used-223-caliber-rifle.

The shooter also "planned" his attack since he killed other people before going to the school. Most of these massacres are premeditated

Just look at the Great Lakes. They stand at record levels.

Actually, they're near record low levels due to drought.

Putting it in quotes makes it sound like that's the comment GM made. What they actually said:

We regularly review our overall media spend and make adjustments as needed. This happens as a regular course of business and it's not unusual for us to move our spending around various media outlets - especially with the growth of social and digital media outlets.

In terms of Facebook specifically, we are reassessing our advertising, but remain committed to an aggressive content strategy with all of our products and brands, as it continues to be a very effective tool for engaging with our customers.

Of course you can take it as a polite way of saying "Facebook ads don't work". Or you could take it as a way of saying "we're trying something else to save money and that was bottom of the list". That same guy (before he got fired) also ended their relationship with ad agency Campbell-Ewald, who they'd been using for decades.

And now GM is reconsidering their decision to advertise on Facebook. Why would they do this? Because:

"We certainly don't want to walk way from 900 million consumers and we haven't walked away," Perry said. "We're a big proponent of Facebook."

It was certainly embarrassing - disastrous, even - coming on the eve of the IPO, and yes, it's nice grist to the mill of FB bashers. In reality, sometimes things aren't that black and white. Wasn't there a story here the other day where people were fiercely debating whether marketing and advertising are just a lot of nonsense anyway, with merely rudimentary metrics?

True. Alaska produces massive quantities of oil, but the price of gasoline in Alaska has hit $6 per gallon.

Republicans in Michigan crossed party lines to give Jesse Jackson the win back in 1998, and also for the Gubernatorial primaries to vote for Geoffrey Fieger in 1998. Democrats in Detroit were urging their voters to turn out for Ron Paul today, which is what Daily Kos should have supported too if they had half a brain. Ron Paul pulling off an upset in Michigan would have really threw the GOP primaries. A Rick Santorum victory, not so much.

No need to be so optimistic.. Old world mass media still owns the pipe... If you don't believe me, just look at the types that are still winning elections. I mean, how is this possible? (That's a rhetorical question, no need to answer)

He's already lost his wife and daughter at least, that's a start. What a pathetic piece of shit.

He only lost his daughter because he stopped giving her money and took away her Mercedes. Seems she was pretty happy with the arrangement for the past 7 years since she didn't upload the video earlier (video's from 2004). He's not even up for re-election for 3 more years.

"...she warned her father if he reduced her financial support and took away her Mercedes, which he had provided, he would "live to regret it.""

What a spoiled brat. Isn't this blackmail or extortion? Give me money or else? It's already been ruled that it wasn't a crime, and even if it was she didn't go to the police, she uploaded it to the internet for all to see. I think she should be brought up on charges.

A CBS producer threaten to expose that David Letterman was sleeping with staff if he didn't pay $2 million. Police found out and the producer was arrested and got 6 months in jail.

How is this different? "Give me a Mercedes and money or I release the (perfectly legal) spanking video to Youtube!"

They get beaten to within an inch of their life by those who they thought were friends, and they never ever do it again.

like the "beating" he gave his daughter? So basically you'll do nothing, gotcha.

Watch the video, she isn't even crying after he leaves the room, and she only posted this video because he recently took away her Mercedes

I'd say someone's spoiled.

Another crazy towel head. Here is the link to the story.