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Gnapster

gnome-napster

GTK Napster

iNapster

jNapster

Knapster

Linux Napster Client

Jnap

OpenNap

Would anyone like to throw some review of the different Napster implementations available for Linux? Or should I just run Napster over VMWare? ;)

EraseMe

That site is down. Here's a mirror

I dunno, he's not that bad. Some of his non-spam posts are somewhat amusing. Not to feed the trolls, but there is an interesting troll poll over here
. Most of the regulars seemed to score pretty high. Although the poll didn't include DMG, or the natalie portman guy.

BTW, I enjoyed your gritspoll

Here it is. thank you

JoeSchmoe writes "The United Coalition of Trolls for the Abolition of Moderation has announced that they are porting Natalie Portman to reality. This comes just weeks after UCTAM changed leadership." Troll Dreams can come true after all! ;)
Thank You,
Troll King

Yes.
http://www.geocities.com/usb_dev/.

Before they fix their security leaks, I've mirrored the members only pages at

http://www.geocities.com/usb_dev/.

Feel free to mirror this...

Much of the excitement we get out of our work is that we don't really know what we are doing. -- E. Dijkstra

Trolling is the ancient practice and art of being sarcastic, funny, and sometimes annoying. Trolling is said to date back to the 5th century BC, in northern Mongolia. But, back then trolling was punishable by death. Many troll martyrs have sacrificed their lives in their fight for the freedom of trolling. Trolls have a rich and diverse culture in modern times. They band together and fill our lives with wonder and heartfelt thanks to all that read their witty and insightful comments. But, the cuddly trolls have a dark enemy that threatens their very survival. They are the Moddur-Raetirs (more commonly known as the Moderators). The Moderators have declared all out war against the benign, peace-loving trolls. It is said the Moderators are evil creatures devoid of emotions and senses of humor that want to destroy anything bearing those qualities. But there are Rebel Moderators out there that have aquired these traits by trolling spells, and are helping the trolls in their never ending battle. Let us wish them luck.

Here are some troll links:

ustrolls

The boy who loved trolls

Rare photos of trolls

Troll page

Troll Lovers page

Yes, Bluth was a Disney animator originally, but he left Disney while they were working on The Fox and the Hound due to artistic constraints. You can find a lot of information about Bluth here and here.

Nice. ;-) (I was the Gendou at Otakon 99.)

(...well, there were a couple others. But they were only there on Saturday morning. So I win.)

I'll be there again this summer. Unfortunately, the number of Reis is diminishing, so I'll have to start molesting Lains. Lain is the theme this year, so I'm sure to have better luck.

I am the Lord.

For Linux MUI-alike attempts:

gtkmagic - a project to provde the dynamic application-specific customizability that MUI had in Gtk - there's a similar, but AFAIK unrelated, attempt by one of the staff at Rhad Labs, but I don't think it's seen the light of day yet.

There's also an attempt to clone the entire MUI API on UNIX - Zune

Console run you must type ./pfa where is a product of two primes. Disclaimer is that is only works for signed 64-bit numbers only.

enjoy!

The Java lacks of C++ feature is frustrating for a lot of pepole, in my own opinion. On the other side, now the new Smalltalks (as Squeak ) can offer a better environment of Java (and even C++)? What do you think?
Giovanni Giorgi

Now that's fast. I remember when 60ms was fast.

Several years ago when I worked for the university, I helped throw out an old word processing system that my boss insisted was outdated (it wasn't broke, so why fix it?) It sported an old 10MB hard drive and if I remember right it was powered by a three phase motor. I laugh when a person today says installing a hard drive is complicated. Today's drive weighs less than 100 pounds and doesn't require a special circuit breaker.

Makes me want to install my advanced MFM card and see how well those state of the art IBM drives will work with my 2.2.12 kernel. Does anyone still know what RLL means anymore?

"Library of Babel", anyone?

Every possible combination of characters. Every book possible. Every truth, and every possible way to disprove that truth. There's a library.

"No one can articulate a syllable which is not filled with tenderness and fear, which is not, in one of these languages, the powerful name of a god."

And so he says to me you wanna be a bad guy? And I say yeah baby I wanna be bad! I says surf's up space ponies I'm making gravy without the lumps!

Do you feel that 3rd party extensions to C++, such as Microsoft's ATL "attribute" constuct ( www.geocities.com/~chrisbe/Attribu tes.htm ), add or detract from the language, and why?

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This is like the only one I could find.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/1736/storm- I.jpg.

If you look at this link you'll find that you're not the first person to make this comparison.

Don't you mean Blame Shelbyville?

What Would Troy McClure Do?

How about: What Would Waylon Smithers Do?

Bart's Mom's a Big Fat Bitch

More like Ralph's mom. Bart's mom is hot! (God, did I just type that? Oh well -- I could be worse.)

There is no doubt that OO is the biggest bit of snake oil to come out of the programming "gurus" in ages. Think about it folks, OO has been pushed down our throats in one form or another for over twenty years. If it hasn't worked by now, it ain't working.

Work on any sufficiently large real project and you'll find it easier said than done to decompose your project into a whiz-bang hierarchy that actually works...and once it does, look out for the bloat on your object files, and the horror that ensues when you realize you made a mistake somewhere back there in a base class and you have to tear the thing to shreds.

And, to anyone who might know, the evolution of a programmer page has code that looks like LISP (senior year in high school). Is this so?

If you mean college senior, yes, that's lisp.

Also, will the code for the master programmer compile?

That's Windows COM code, some IDL, some C++. I suspect yes, though like anything COM, it'd take a while to get things set up right. I'm not about to try!

Real Software Engineers

Real Computer Scientists

These and many others can be found here.

And, to anyone who might know, the evolut ion of a programmer page has code that looks like LISP (senior year in high school). Is this so?

Also, will the code for the master programmer compile?


Here's my copy of DeCSS. Where's yours?

Real Software Engineers

Real Computer Scientists

These and many others can be found here.

And, to anyone who might know, the evolut ion of a programmer page has code that looks like LISP (senior year in high school). Is this so?

Also, will the code for the master programmer compile?


Here's my copy of DeCSS. Where's yours?

Real Software Engineers

Real Computer Scientists

These and many others can be found here.

And, to anyone who might know, the evolut ion of a programmer page has code that looks like LISP (senior year in high school). Is this so?

Also, will the code for the master programmer compile?


Here's my copy of DeCSS. Where's yours?

Real Software Engineers

Real Computer Scientists

These and many others can be found here.

And, to anyone who might know, the evolut ion of a programmer page has code that looks like LISP (senior year in high school). Is this so?

Also, will the code for the master programmer compile?


Here's my copy of DeCSS. Where's yours?

Ooooh, Enchanter flashbacks... Heh, it even fits. Writes a spell scroll into your spellbook for later use.

Cool.

(I'd suggest adding frotz for a command, but it's already a Z-machine interpreter...)

Let's see: gnusto (installation/package tool), rezrov ("unlock/open" == chmod?), malyon ("animate object" == filemanager/program launcher?), filfre ("useless fireworks" == eyecandy something). Oh, this has possibilities... ;-)

What the hell are you smoking? ASCII spam like this being posted all the time on /. The only way to moderate this is DOWN! Besides, if it's ASCII art you're looking for, there are plenty of places on the web dedicated to this, like here!

I also can't stress enough how important it is that we GET AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD AND GET OUT INTO THE STREETS, particularly in the United States. We need to make some noise about this. Get flyers printed and distributed!

Let me know at findcss@usa.net if you plan a flyer drop or other public demonstration in the near future. I'm making a list of demonstrations and flyer drops. Please let me know - every voice counts right now.

46
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I also can't stress enough how important it is that we GET AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD AND GET OUT INTO THE STREETS, particularly in the United States. We need to make some noise about this. Get flyers printed and distributed!

Let me know at findcss@usa.net if you plan a flyer drop or other public demonstration in the near future. I'm making a list of demonstrations and flyer drops. Please let me know - every voice counts right now.

46
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This article is fake!

Jon Katz was murdered!!!

See the Slashgrits article for more info.

More Scooby links:
ScoobyCentral
Scottish Scooby site
Shaggy's Groovy Pad
Scoobyland links

More Scooby links:
ScoobyCentral
Scottish Scooby site
Shaggy's Groovy Pad
Scoobyland links

Come On Scooby-Doo, I See You . . .
Pretending You Got A Sliver.
But You're Not Fooling Me,
Cause I Can See
The Way You Shake And Shiver.

You Know We Got A Mystery To Solve,
So Scooby-Doo Be Ready For Your Act.
Don't Hold Back!
And Scooby-Doo If You Come Through
You're Gonna To Have Yourself A Scooby Snack!
That's A Fact!

Scooby-Dooby Doo, Here Are You.
You're Ready And You're Willing.
If We Can Count On You, Scooby-Doo,
I Know We'll Catch That Villain.

Trolling for Scooby-doo!

Scooby dooby doo!

More Scooby links:
ScoobyCentral
Scottish Scooby site
Shaggy's Grovvy Pad
Scoobyland links

Come On Scooby-Doo, I See You . . .
Pretending You Got A Sliver.
But You're Not Fooling Me,
Cause I Can See
The Way You Shake And Shiver.

You Know We Got A Mystery To Solve,
So Scooby-Doo Be Ready For Your Act.
Don't Hold Back!
And Scooby-Doo If You Come Through
You're Gonna To Have Yourself A Scooby Snack!
That's A Fact!

Scooby-Dooby Doo, Here Are You.
You're Ready And You're Willing.
If We Can Count On You, Scooby-Doo,
I Know We'll Catch That Villain.

Trolling for Scooby-doo!

Scooby dooby doo!

More Scooby links:
ScoobyCentral
Scottish Scooby site
Shaggy's Grovvy Pad
Scoobyland links

As I said, I'm not knocking Freenet. But the reason Napster is such a headache for the recording industry is because it's generating one hell of a lot of traffic. My gnapster program currently is telling me that 2634 people are logged into this one Napster server right now. That's a lot of people per day through the network.

Freenet is a good idea, but it's also not an idea that is easy or quick to implement. From what I understand of the concept, there's a lot of technological overhead involved. A Napster-esque file transfer network can be implemented much quicker and, if it is made multi-platform, can generate a great deal of traffic quickly.

It's easy to sue three people. It's a bit harder to sue a hundred thousand people - the courts couldn't handle that kind of stress. They'd take decades sorting it out, even if they allowed it. The industry lawyers know this and know that suing half the Internet is not a solution.

Freenet is a good long-term solution. But projects such as the Open File Sharing Initiative, which is pursuing a Napster-esque file transfer system, is a better short-term solution. It'll generate the traffic that will act as a deterrent to lawsuits, while we develop distributed-storage technologies such as Freenet for long-term storage.

My point is that this isn't just a technical issue; it's a political one as well. While Freenet is a better technical solution, I feel Napster is a better political one.

Defendent 46
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Another possibility is taking the Napster route. Napster, really, is a brilliant concept and ultimately is probably more likely to succeed than Freenet. Don't get me wrong - Freenet is a good idea. I just feel that Napster is a more flexible way to go.

The Napster idea is that MP3's are never stored on any server, but on the individual's PC's. The server only acts as a negotiation point between transactions.

The same idea could be used to trade free software. Web sites such as Freshmeat could list new packages that are available, and then Napster-esque servers can negotiate between software holders. Package integrity can be verified by MD5 or some other method of checksum.

At that point, free software becomes as unregulatable as MP3's are now.

Anyone up for some fun? :)

Defendent 46
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Of course we can.

Turn off the goddamned cookies. Refuse to take them. If there's a website that you can't reach because it requires cookies to access (which are very few that I've seen), then sorry, you'll just have to decide which is more important.. the convenience of that service or your privacy and rights.

If you know what is going on, and take the attitude that you can't do anything about it because to do something would present an inconvenience (i.e., not being able to reach a website) then you're not being robbed - you're prostituting yourself. So unless you're willing to accept responsibility for the loss of those freedoms, stop whining about it.

Defendent 46
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I really wonder what has happened to the USA in the past 200 years to make people so blind to this kind of stuff.

They've stopped being citizens and they've become consumers. I've been getting the same thing from some people.. what I've heard is:

"If you Linux people would just buy the license like everyone else.."

"You Linux geeks are only a tiny fraction of the population, so shut up."

"When someone comes and takes my DVD away, then I'll care."

"There're much bigger issues to be fighting for than DVD players on Linux."
(which is true, but seeing that this isn't a DVD player issue, not really, I don't see the point.)

"They can't stop me, so no rights are being taken away."

That last one is my personal favorite.

I'm getting a lot of this from Windows and Mac people. Frankly, I think it's because Linux has stolen so much of their thunder in the last year, it's an easy and cheap shot.

It's sad, because beyond the First Amendment people don't really know what their rights are. Or they think they have rights that they don't.

It comes down to "if you just play along, conform and obey the rules, then massah won't beat you". It's the attitude of a slave. That's what these people are, for the most part - slaves, no matter how much money they have or how many toys they own. Slavery doesn't need a master - ignorance is that.

Defendent 46
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United States Law Has Been Rewritten To Allow Corporations To Write Their Own Laws.

Make sense now?

This battle, at heart, really isn't about DVD players for Linux. It's about the fact that the MPAA pushed laws into place to cover their asses when CSS would be inevitably broken, which they knew for a fact would happen. They knew this in 1996.

Of course this happens all the time in the United States. But this one is just ugly. The rewritten Title 17 of the U.S. code gives a copyright owner the right to apply "access control methods" to their work. If you circumvent those methods to gain "unauthorized access" (which could be defined extremely widely) then you're in violation of federal law. You don't have to infringe the copyright to do it, either.

Let me draw you an analogy. Say I've made a CD-ROM with the neatest coolest package on it. It's copyrighted under the new Title 17. I put a paperclip (yes, I know, it would scratch the CD but work with me here) over the CD so that you can't use the CD without taking the paperclip off. You'd destroy your drive otherwise.

That paperclip is my "access control method". If you remove it without my permission, you are in violation of federal law (5 years jail, $500K fine first offense) even though you legally purchased the CD from me and now own it. Of course, I'll let you take the paperclip off - so long as I'm there watching, can keep a log of exactly what you do with the CD and other information for "marketing purposes". I can legally do this now, because when you add Chapter 12 to the rest of Title 17, Fair Use gets destroyed. Copyright owners have been given legal protection for circumventing it; the copyright user has no rights other than those given or sold to them by the copyright owner.

A general maxim is that opportunity is a byproduct of freedom. Technology grows at it's best in an environment where information is freely shared, not hoarded for profit. This set of laws is not good for the growth of technology, and anyone truly interested in the advancement of technology will oppose it. To think otherwise is the same mindset that says that chaos is bad for the economy and that the only way to a healthy economy is rigid central planning. It don't work.

Defendent 46
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I've been saying this for a while now. This war is going to be fought on three fronts:

1. Code. Fact is, the only way government can shut this down is by shutting down the Internet. It should be interesting to see whether the U.S. government is really more interested in free markets or law enforcement - by even beginning to impose the kind of restrictions that they could have to, would virtually kill the booming Internet economy. My point is, even if every last website is scoured of DeCSS, someone will put together a Napster-like program for normal software trade. As long as communication is free of government monitoring, and it's legal to own a programmable computer, code is still law.

2. Court. Let's get one myth out of the way. If we lose in court, DeCSS will not go away. The MPAA will not start throwing tens of thousands of people into jail. Not even close. What will happen is that it will be tied up in appellate, and if we lose there, then things get ugly. You and I both know that the Open Source community won't say "oh, judge said it's illegal, better stop it or I'll get spanked". What happens then is war - it's not smart to piss off millions of very smart technical people in an Internet world. Bad things could happen; people could get hurt. A court victory can help prevent this situation from happening.

3. Street. You're right. We need to get away from the keyboard. I've just printed up 500 flyers, plan to pass some of them out at the Linux users group meeting tonight. Hope to get the rest out to general public within the next week. The text of the flyer will soon be up on my site, and I'm trying to put together a list of flyer drops around the U.S. If you've done a flyer drop recently or are planning one, let me know at findcss@usa.net. It'll be advertised.

Defendent 46
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here

Shouldn't you be off pouring grits down your pants while watching a statue of a certain Star Wars related actress?
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Most of the conflicts that imping on freedom of speech and thought could be resolved if the definition of what constitutes a "religious group" were expanded and the autonomy from central government enjoyed by those groups deepened.

This dives directly into the can of worms that is child protective law. All supremacist groups, be they Christians, Commies, Nazis or the Political Correctors, believe they have an inalienable right to legislate how others are to raise their children -- and what ideas are to be considered "virulent" enough to justify "prior restraint".

Christians via laws against heresy, abortion and pornography

Nazis via book burnings

PCers via laws against, not just hate speech, but against the very emotions that make us human and in which we all indulge, including the PCers.

The Christians, Commies, Nazis and PCers need to mind their own business, but they cannot do so if the government is allowed to intervene in their internal affairs on behalf of their enemies.

This means actions like the burning of the Branch Davidian compound are about as evil as can be imagined within the context of a pluralistic society -- for they force us all to compete, as special interest groups, in the political arena for control over the indoctrination of the children of other groups, lest we lose our children to our enemies.

Ultimately, the centralization of sovereignty is the enemy of all freedom, including the fundamental freedoms of religion and of speech.

Personally, I believe that genes are fundamental to social identity, but I cannot establish a community of like-minded people without the continual and very real threat that we will be attacked by police and military groups as "supremacist racist hate mongers". I would gladly mind my own business if other groups would cease imposing, via governmental pogroms, their religious beliefs about genetics (ie: that genes don't matter to social identity and anyone who believes otherwise is a clear and present danger to civilization).

The only way out of this black-hole of ever increasing centralization of sovereignty that I have been able to come up with, other than off-planet migrations, is warrior insurance.

Coming soon... the Slashgrits beanie awards.

How many bowls of hot grits should we pour down Rob's pants?

Thank you.

Defendent #46
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I'd like to know of any ladeez that read Slashgrits.

I would like a fresh bowl of Slashgrits poured down my pants.

Thanks you.