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case against unicode
Though I personnally agree with you (unicode, specially UTF-8, is way too useful for users of language that don't fit inside ASCII)...
Why not Unicode?
Unicode is extremely complex, and although it's not a turing-complete language, it can already be abused a lot to pretty much fuck up any layout.
(e.g.: When Slashdot didn't block them in the subject line, it was possible to abuse "text direction" marker to actually put arbitrary text on the right side of the subject. I.e.: write a troll flamepost with a title that could add "(Score: 5, Insightful)" right on the place where the actual scoring would normally go)
(e.g.: Zalgo text, where diactirics (extra accents on characters) and other such decoration is progressively used on text to make a complete unreadable mess of it)
etc.
Lots of potential abuse, so that's why
/. which is primarily a english speaking site will severly limit unicode use (and English itself is a language that can possibly be written by using exclusively ASCII - e.g.: by ignoring the rare word where characters could be optionally accented). -
You joke, but
Maybe he could construct some kind of protective cage around himself that would allow him to use his devices in relative safety without requiring a ludicrous amount of safety equipment?
I'm not sure what you would call the kind of arrangement you'd end up with.I know you're joking, but BMW has exactly released that :
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climate
Every new build water power plant (based on a hydro dam) has the problem of rotting vegetation.
Has nothing to do with tropes or Alpes.Has entirely to do.
In the most extremely exagerated case, the rotting vegetation is much more serious if you have submerged a whole chunk of tropical rain forest vs. only a bunch of rocks with a little bit of moss growing on them.
In real life, seriously, alpine climates tend to generate a biotope with is a bit more on the less luxuriant side of the scalat (similar to what you find going to northern latitudes).
There's a lot less thing to rot at the bottom if you have a lot less vegetation in the region and a lot less rich soil to begin with.
(Or another way to put it as a caricature : do you see much submersible tropical rain forest here ?)Also part of the decomposition process is assisted by the micro-organisms present in the water. Colder climate means less activity of micro-organism, meaning the dam doesn't emit as much methane as it would in warm waters.
In the end, a dam in Switzerland doesn't emit that much greenhouse gazes as one in Brazil.
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Re:Where's the news?
It looks like Titleist has 44 patents on their Pro V1 golf balls. These patents range from design to materials to manufacturing.
For example, the first patent in the list, 6013330, relates to UV curable inks and their application onto spherical surfaces such as golf balls. Reading the first page of the patent may give you a sense of the complexity of high-speed, production printing on a curved surface in a durable manner.
If you look at the patents you will notice that many of them are related to manufacturing processes. 9174088, for example, is a process for cleaning the seam created when the golf ball is molded in a way that allows the dimple pattern to be consistent across the seam.
There are a ton of BS patents out there and some of Titleist's may fall into that category. But it's not hard to imagine a lot of complexity goes into designing and manufacturing a golf ball. The company started in 1932 because of a golfer's frustration with the then state-of-the-art golf balls.
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Pre fab pavement
I understand where you are coming from, but I would point out that surfacing a road is not cheap. The raw materials are a small part of the cost. Closing the road, having engineers on site, equipment on site, labourers to do the work, and then confirmation that it meets the requires spec (particularly important on fast roads)...
Because on the other hand, pre-fab street pavement is going to automagically jump out of the factory and directly install it self where needed ?
(...though this might actually become possible within a century of robotics development...)Nope. Both will have costs for installation, both will require closing roads, etc.
The only difference is that, purely as a street surface material, (normal non solar) pre-fab street pavement might not that much more expensive than some of the high quality asphalt covering used accross Europe (the most durable possible to minimize needs to repair ; noise reducing properties ; etc.) and might be a little bit faster to produce and install.
So you've arrived at the logical conclusion that a plain non solar pre-fab street pavement might be not such a bad idea. So what's the next logical step ?
" - Hey, let's cram into the pre-fab tile a fragile technology that is awfully more complex, cost outrageously much more, will now require the presence of electricians just to install, and requires tons of engineering in the first place to actually get developped !"
Yeah, I don't see why so many people are complaining about this idea.In 2016, it simply doesn't make sens to even start considering putting photovoltaic cells on street pavement - for anything except just as a proof of concept at some science fair just to demo what we could be thinking to develop after a decade.
To me, it all makes as much sense as "crowd-funding to create a *fast-food chain* selling burgers out of vat-grown meat on the wonderful grounds of 'Cruelty-free, 100% guaranteed NON-murder-meat !'. Openning : Next month !". In 2016. When a single burger of cultured meat costs in the price range of million dollars.
Yes, one day, once the process is scaled to the point where it is economically viable - vat-grown bugers will definitely be the way to go
(on multiple grounds. Not only on ethical ground regarding animal welfare, but also on ground that growing a culture is much less stressing the environment than growing animal which in turn are going to need cultured food, etc.)For now, if you need that much desperately cruelty-free foods there are much more viable option if you want to open a fast-food chain next month (tofu, falafels, etc.)
and leave the vat-grown burger to the scientist for what it is worth now : proof of concept of what could technologically be achievable one day. -
*Beside the road* is still cheaper and better
Once they start mass production the cost will fall. When considering the cost, you have to factor in labour costs and the cost of closing the road for the time required to resurface it too, and how long the road surface will last, and what the on-going maintenance costs are.
And in the meantime, putting the solar panels *beside the road* (*) is still cheaper, more energy efficient and their installation is a tiny bit less invasive to traffic.
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(*) : like roofing over a bike path, on the roof of noise barriers, or simply along the road, etc. I.e.: places where the surface also belongs to the department of public roads, but where the panels are much more efficient by being better oriented and not shadowed by the traffic, where aren't subject to constant wear and tear by said traffic, and thus won't need tons of engineering to come up with a solution that could protect tham (like TFA's silicon layer).
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Re:So what?
You forgot to turn off "safe search".
Mona Lisa porn - Google Search.
"About 586.000 results (0,47 seconds)".
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Re:Desperate lies?
Adjustments: I don't misunderstand the reasons for these at all. However, numerous sites and scientists have questioned the validity of these adjustments. I'm not a climate scientist, but I do find it striking how the adjustments always go in the same direction: making historical temperatures colder, hence increasing the apparent warming trend.
As for Europe this Spring, I won't cherry pick any links - just search: There are numerous articles about how the entire Spring was unusually cold in all of German-speaking Europe. The climate maps I linked to in my original comment can show data for specific months - and they show that all of Europe had above average temperatures during this time.
This is simply nonsense, and lends weight to the idea that the historical temperature adjustments are wrong.
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Re:Desperate lies?
Adjustments: I don't misunderstand the reasons for these at all. However, numerous sites and scientists have questioned the validity of these adjustments. I'm not a climate scientist, but I do find it striking how the adjustments always go in the same direction: making historical temperatures colder, hence increasing the apparent warming trend.
As for Europe this Spring, I won't cherry pick any links - just search: There are numerous articles about how the entire Spring was unusually cold in all of German-speaking Europe. The climate maps I linked to in my original comment can show data for specific months - and they show that all of Europe had above average temperatures during this time.
This is simply nonsense, and lends weight to the idea that the historical temperature adjustments are wrong.
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Re:For research, this seems invaluable
Information on what Wesson is calculating seems hard to come by, but this may be it:
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Diffraction limited?
Your average phone has a ~4 mm (diameter) lens. This yields an Airy disc of some 1.15 minutes of arc.
Even at a wide field of view (say, 60 degrees), this yields a maximum lateral resolution of some 3200 pixels. Isn't thus any camera with more than ~10 MPixels diffraction limited by the tiny lens, and not sensor limited?
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Re:Interesting
All I can say is Jackass!
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/07/business/canadian-lumber-penalized.html?pagewanted=1
Canadian Lumber penalized
"American steel tarriffs"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2004/apr/28/brazil.usnews
"American Cotton Subsidies illegal"
My point is that America is neither better nor worse with respect to breaking the trade rules games.
But because of jackass's like you, you think that it is poor poor America that always suffers! BS!
Again I am not saying America is good, nor bad. America is dealt bad cards at times, and deals bad cards as well. So if you are going to complain please keep the argument to Google and the ISP's and not "America" and "Europe"
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Re:First post
Likening Bush to a monkey is not insulting him because he is white, and so is not racist.
Well that is a preposterous statement. I'm of the opinion that comparing any human being to a monkey is an insult to that person's mental capabilities. Whether or not it is also racist is a separate dimension of the insult, but fundamentally calling anyone a monkey is an insult. I might be wrong, but I think that those who called Bush a monkey were not using that word to make a factual statement about his biological makeup...
But then again, I come from South America, so I was never taught that "monkey" is a particularly racist insult (our monkeys are not all black, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Lion_Tamarin).
Btw, Google fail in Switzerland: http://images.google.ch/images?q=Michelle%20Obama - first result.
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Re:Come on.
> Burning of scientists at the stake? Uhmmm... I'm trying to think of an example. Do you have one? I really can't think of one.
One. Google. Query. Away: http://www.google.ch/search?q=Burning%20of%20scientists%20at%20the%20stake
First result: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno and now you know.> Galileo got in trouble as much for being a jerk about it as for what he taught.
Citation needed. What I have found about Galileo is this: "Most historians agree Galileo did not act out of malice and felt blindsided by the reaction to his book." There are *five* references to other scholars confirming this point of view in there.
> nor to the millions of Christians who regard Constantinian Christianity as no Christianity at all.
Ahh, the good old "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Why then do you even bother to defend "them" at all?
> Religion was a post-hoc rationalization...Witch burnings...were quite rare if not unheard of prior to that time...Anti-semitism was not a Christian invention...
Which all leads to the OP's point that Christianity was either a motivator, catalyst or used as a justification for those acts. You are really making his point for him here.
> the Christian church has been a progressive force for women when you compare it to the times, not a repressive one
By having as one of the central tenants that a woman is only perfect as long she is immaculate? While having no such restriction on men? By condoning rape as long as you compensate her father for the financial loss? (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
> it reads more like a tired list of he-said-she-said from someone who got everything he knows about religion and history from infidels.org
... So kindly exercise some discretion and actually learn something before you start flapping your gums and slandering things you know nothing about.Since after investigating your claims for about 15 minutes, I managed to find 5 issues with, I'm gonna go and say perhaps you should take some of this advice yourself.
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Re:Come on.
> Burning of scientists at the stake? Uhmmm... I'm trying to think of an example. Do you have one? I really can't think of one.
One. Google. Query. Away: http://www.google.ch/search?q=Burning%20of%20scientists%20at%20the%20stake
First result: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno and now you know.> Galileo got in trouble as much for being a jerk about it as for what he taught.
Citation needed. What I have found about Galileo is this: "Most historians agree Galileo did not act out of malice and felt blindsided by the reaction to his book." There are *five* references to other scholars confirming this point of view in there.
> nor to the millions of Christians who regard Constantinian Christianity as no Christianity at all.
Ahh, the good old "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Why then do you even bother to defend "them" at all?
> Religion was a post-hoc rationalization...Witch burnings...were quite rare if not unheard of prior to that time...Anti-semitism was not a Christian invention...
Which all leads to the OP's point that Christianity was either a motivator, catalyst or used as a justification for those acts. You are really making his point for him here.
> the Christian church has been a progressive force for women when you compare it to the times, not a repressive one
By having as one of the central tenants that a woman is only perfect as long she is immaculate? While having no such restriction on men? By condoning rape as long as you compensate her father for the financial loss? (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
> it reads more like a tired list of he-said-she-said from someone who got everything he knows about religion and history from infidels.org
... So kindly exercise some discretion and actually learn something before you start flapping your gums and slandering things you know nothing about.Since after investigating your claims for about 15 minutes, I managed to find 5 issues with, I'm gonna go and say perhaps you should take some of this advice yourself.
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Don't forget also culturally different concerns
My [swiss] co-workers were caught eating lunch at a restaurant that is derided as being for the uncouth masses (no, not McDonalds). [Sorry guys, if I just outed you on slashdot
:-)]
http://maps.google.ch/?ie=UTF8&ll=47.383045,8.505821&spn=0.002477,0.009645&z=17&layer=c&cbll=47.383047,8.505825&panoid=6fhJi7LDrhilQAciWe5PZA&cbp=11,155.84,,2,8.53
During the summer, every restaurant that can, puts tables/chairs outside because the swiss strongly favor it. -
Population density
Kill everyone and just take the oil.
Well, at least that part is going to be easier in Greenland
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Rule 34
If his fetish is, say, truckers and fat mexican grannies with mustaches, do you still want to be the cameraman?
Must... resist... urge... to verify... Internet Rule 34....
Ghaaa !!! 22k+ pages found. The Google, it doesn't do nothing.
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Google Zürich
The largest Google engineering office outside of USA is in Zürich. I work in this department http://www.google.ch/support/jobs/bin/topic.py?loc_id=1058&dep_id=1115, where we are responsible for the operation of a number of Google services. Such a job involves both system administration and engineering, and having good skills in both areas is the best chance to get hired. We currently need more people, so if you have the skills, there is a good chance of getting hired. We have equivalent jobs in a number of other places including Dublin and USA.
For getting a work permit in Switzerland, I know three things that can help improving your chances. Being an EU citizen, having a university degree, and having a job offer at hand. (Notice that Switzerland is not a member of EU, but has agreements with a number of long time EU members. Citizenship in a country that recently became member of EU is not that much help). I have not heard of any cases where a person satisfying all three conditions could not get a permit.
The only language you need to speak in order to get the job is English. The local language spoken in Zürich is a tough dialect of German, and it might not be the best choice for a second language. But if you learn high German, then you can get by (actually you can get by fairly well even if you only speak English). -
Internationally controversal.
Because I am not a citicen of the US. Of course I don't case what google shows on http://www.google.us/ [1] but if the logo appears on http://www.google.de/ or http://www.google.ch/ I am pretty pissed (which day is it actually? - so I can check). I predict they get flamed big time if the logo shows on http://www.google.ru/ - the russians won't like it at all.
And then - last not least is http://www.google.com/ - which is [2] "Commercial entities (worldwide)" - notice the worldwide here?
Martin
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us
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It is NOT an exploit on Google
I seriously doubt that a single individual has the ability to make a change on production boxes
I, too, think that Google wasn't probably hacked,
For the simple reason that it affects other search engines too :
keywords : "Bayesian networks and decision graphs Finn rapidshare"
(as seen on TFA - someone is looking for pirate copies of a book on rapid share, and misstypes the request, forgetting to use "inurl:" or "site:")
Results :
- You guess it, no copies of this book on Rapidshare.... (it would be a copyright violation, even in Switzerland were the website is hosted.
Besides, according to Swiss copyrights law, you are free, as a student, to go into your faculty's library take Finn's book and photocopy the chapters in Finn's book you need, because the universities are paying whatever is needed to make the books publicly available to their patrons) ...but a lot of chinese spam keyword-overloaded pages :
- Google (.cn only)
- MSN (.cn only)
- Yahoo (not all .cn but some)
- Search.com (not all .cn but some)
All those pages redirect to a page that start downloading an ActiveX installer containing a Trojan (...according to my clamav scan and to http://virusscan.jotti.org/ )
Note that google's pages are subtely different, they feature entries with non-ASCII DNS names.
So two probabilities :
- either google got hacked, and absolutely everybody else are in fact using google's search result instead of having their own database and engine.
- or it's probably another spamdexing attempt, operated by a zombie net.
With a ugly quick script :for ip in $((for url in `lynx -dump "http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=Bayesian+networks+and+decision+graphs+Finn+rapidshare&count=1000" | grep -Eo '[[:alnum:].]*\.cn$'`; do ping -c 1 $url; done) | grep -Po '\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}' | sort -u); do echo $ip : ; whois $ip | grep netname; done
we see that all those sites point to a couple of machine of some german hosting company.
So perhaps, their server got hacked and subsequently got involved into some spamdexing scheme.
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Re:Seize Their Building
Well, I'll give the board and management of Monsanto also quite high marks in the evil category.
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Liberty's angry at Unca Sam!How can you pay 500$ for such iShit and 500 billions to destroy a country when you've got 16 millions people starving in the streets?
All you motherfuckers are gonna pay. You are the ones who are the ball-lickers. We're gonna fuck your mothers while you watch and cry like little bitches. Once we get to Washington and find those neocon fucks who are making that war , we're gonna make 'em eat our shit, then shit out our shit, then eat their shit which is made up of our shit that we made 'em eat. Then you're all you motherfucks are next. Love...
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Screw the telescope
Soon, you'll be able to just fucking google for it :
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Wow. What the hell is wrong with you?
I hate Bush as much as any sane person, but you are really a fucked-up retard
First of all, wow, what the hell is wrong with you? What did I do to make you insult me like that?
Second, you're wrong. Does that mean that your insults actually apply to you now?
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Amnesty international, not so good press
Google, Yahoo and Microsoft were acused by Amnesty international were accused to "beeing evil".
a couple of days later google releases an accessible search which seems to be rushed out badly (their code doesn't validate to basic HTML standards, let alon WAI and other compatibilities which would really help disabled people).
just a coincidence ? I think not.
They have managed to avoid bad press in the tech world.
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Interesting insights on legal landscape in Europe
scholarly article
Brilliant but pricey. Oh the magic that Google can do... -
Re:Google - my secret lover
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Google censoring Germany, France, Switzerland...
They could start by warning people from Germany, France and Switzerland that they censor their results:
http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=stormfront&btn G=Recherche+Google&meta=
http://www.google.de/search?hl=fr&q=stormfront&btn G=Recherche+Google
http://www.google.ch/search?hl=fr&q=stormfront&btn G=Recherche+Google&meta= -
Re:Fear not, NapsterNote: Administrator privileges required for installation on PCs running Windows 2000 Professional, Windows XP Professional or Windows XP Home Edition.
Being a service provided by the fine folks of the Sony Corporation this makes sense of course.
That's so they can provide you with some free software.
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Re:Go Google!
fwiw, http://google.ch/ is great for people in Switzerland.
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What's really cool about GoogleThey think locally. Case in point is that since about a year you can enter a Zurich Geneva on their Swiss site and the first link is the current timetable of the federal railways.
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What's really cool about GoogleThey think locally. Case in point is that since about a year you can enter a Zurich Geneva on their Swiss site and the first link is the current timetable of the federal railways.
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Re:Madness
Europe will see though and reject this perversion. A Simple enviro tax will cripple US exports.
The EU actually encourages ink refilling.. an example:
http://www.google.ch/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=7&url=http %3A//www.inkjetmall.com/store/info/pdf/ink-pricing .pdf&ei=NYEgQ6uqMM7kwQHG-5mRCQ -
June 8th 1995
Reason #1: It was a thursday
Reason #2: It would be a nice conicidence if it was released the same day as Personal Home Page Tools (PHP Tools) version 1.0. :) -
Re: 'goto' is badOn the 10th anniversary of PHP, there is a minor flameware going on on the PHP mailing list over the inclusion of "goto" in PHP 5.1
P.S. Sorry about the previous premature post - somehow accidentally hitting CR whilst in the subject field submitted it, and then Slashdot seemed to disappear off the Internet, and then it wouldn't let me post, because I'd posted 11 minutes ago, which was less than 2 minutes!
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Re:Help .... who? (OT)
Yep, 50 mpg in liters per 100 kilometers = 5.7, which means many cars already make that here.
Hence the goal was actually to reach 3 liters, which was reached by a VW lupo (almost 80 mpg).
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Re:Yes it helps
So you're a C++ newbie ?
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Re:.de
But if you are in Germany and type in http://google.ca, low and behold, you get Google Canada, the Canadian Google site. Google.com, Google.se, Google.fr, Google.ch, Google.ru, Google.co.nz, Google.co.au, all appear to work from other countries, and I presume all of the 113 country local domains should also work. I have no idea if the search results vary, as that is a study for someone else to do.
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Re:Gentoo and Debian the only serious contenders
Oracle only runs on RedHat and maybe SuSE
Oracle runs great on Debian. I have two Oracle 9 production boxes running Debian Sarge and a third machine with Debian and Oracle 10 for some development and testing work. In addition to that I have lots of Debian (and RedHat) boxes that have the Oracle client software installed. We use Oracle for some internal company web sites and several bioinformatics databases because it's the "approved company standard" so we're not dealing with large scale installation stuff like clusters. That being said everything that we use it for works great including Intermedia which in the past has always been problematic, no matter what platform Oracle is on.There's a lot of resources online for installing Oracle on Debian and the notes on Oracle for Redhat are useful for Debian admins too.
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For the metric dudes like me
Propz to the story submitter for converting all the numerical infos except the aircraft range : around 15 thousands kilometers.
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yeah ... but how long will this stay valid ?
This is the Original url , which google has given it a Royal Screw at the behind.
Your url may still work, so is this one or this one or this one but for how long ?
We, the users, are SCREWED no matter how you look at it.
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Re:I like it!Well
...1). The new format wastes screen real estate. The default forces you to view a summary of the posts, with a left sidebar of where you've been lately, and a right sidebar of other messages. I liked it better when I simply got a complete list.
2). Looking at titles only causes the subject text to overwrite the date field, in a jumble of characters. Now, this may be because I'm using Mozilla, on Linux -- Windows with IE may handle the fonts better.
3). The old format had a click on the username, to instantly link to a search for that username on Google groups. I'd never respond to a new usenet posting until it arrived on Google and I was able to do this -- it's crucial to determining who's a troll. Even if trolling is not a problem, the ability to check the quality of the information by what the person's said before is important. You can do it here on
/., you know.4). I liked browsing sci.chem.analytical
, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips , or even rec.crafts.brewing in a clean format. I don't need to join a Google groups clone of Yahoo groups and participate in the newbie love-fest. (If I've missed other sources of web-based Usenet archives, I'd like to hear about them) -
original Google Groups
Unfortunately, as of December 5th, Google Groups Beta is back and you can't get to the original (wonderful) Google Groups anymore. just visit any regional Google Groups, like groups.google.ch and you can still use the old interface.
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Why don't they use WordPerfect?
Apparently Novell people use MS word (or at least the MS word file format)...
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Credits please...
At least give some credit to the author of the joke.
Couldn't find it, but I'm quite sure someone else posted it on /. a few weeks ago.
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Re:Mars Rovers
And if you need a more specific link...
Mars Rovers are running a real-time linux OS -
Re:On in the US
1,000,000,000 square light years per yoctosecond in square angstrom per yottosecond Link
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Re:On in the USEven bigger with some variations :
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Re:On in the USEven bigger with some variations :