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The five minute meme is a common misconception.

From the linked article:

"Contrary to common perception, brain and other cells in the body can live for many hours after a person dies. There are different estimates on how long cells can survive without a blood supply and oxygen after death: bone cells for four days, skin cells for 24 hours. Although the oxygen and energy supply to brain cells is depleted within four to five minutes, brain cells remain viable but non-functioning for up to eight hours."

That's not quite right.

WikiLeaks Secret Diplomatic Cables Released In Full

WikiLeaks said it decided to publish the entire collection after about half of the documents, also without redactions, were discovered to be available on a public server earlier in the week.

WikiLeaks has disavowed responsibility for that release, which consisted of about 100,000 secret cables, but said that as criticism of the group mounted, they were left with no alternative "rational action" but to release the entire collection....

For months WikiLeaks has found itself increasingly at odds with some of the media companies they had previously partnered with. Their ties with The New York Times strained after an unflattering profile of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange appeared in the paper.

But this week's discovery of the 100,000 unredacted cables -- in which the names of government sources and other sensitive details were not obscured -- seemed to offer the final word on any effort to continue filtering the files through the mainstream media.

Leak at WikiLeaks: A Dispatch Disaster in Six Acts

Some 250,000 diplomatic dispatches from the US State Department have accidentally been made completely public. The files include the names of informants who now must fear for their lives. It is the result of a series of blunders by WikiLeaks and its supporters.

Ask and you shall receive: This guy is suing because the cops demanded that he consent to them occupying his house. When he refused, they sent a team to take his house by force and arrested him.

They will most likely send a SWAT team (without a search warrant):
Texas SWAT raid destroys organic farm:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/15/texas-swat-team-conducts-_n_3764951.html

Google has said it's not going to allow advertising on Glass.

They also said 'no porn'.
That won't work either. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/google-glass-porn_n_3644321.html

Now, that's for private, non-profit schools. Public schools it has jumped substantially, but not for any nefarious reason: it's what happens when the state legislature looks for easy cuts in the budget and axes higher ed first. When I went to William and Mary back in the mid-80s, 34.7% of the budget was covered by the state. It's 12.8% now, but they're still expected to offer everything they did before (and more) as well as give discounts to in-state students. That money can come only from two places: tuition and endowment.

Endowment is an entire 'nother subject. You might have noticed a serious drop in the stock market a few years back? We (and many other schools) run a three year trailing average on endowment draw, so that's still hurting badly. Oh, and you can't get bonds or other securities with yields higher than a percent or two these days.. Couple the two and your endowment income has cratered as well.

Can we cut budgets? Sure: I started here six years ago in IT and my budget is 20% less than was when I joined. Software vendors don't care: my SPSS licensing costs have tripled in those 3 years for example, and everyone else wants their 5% a year bump. And I'm at a healthy school: I've been at ones that aren't and it's worse.

The real abuse IMHO is the loan industry. We've somehow gotten this idea that it's ok to put yourself into debt for the rest of your life for a degree. (And that debt, unlike every other kind can't ever be vacated by bankruptcy) Nobody should take out $100k of debt for any degree, and the feds shouldn't back it, much like they shouldn't back flood insurance for people who want to live on barrier islands. That may mean you don't get your dream school. Maybe it means 2 years of community college before residential. There are plenty of ways to get an education- shop for them just like you would for an phone

Do you know where Weiner places in recent polls? Downful.

And yet, the UK has one of the world's highest densities of CCTV cameras, a capital police force that is one of the most aggressive in Western countries when it comes to hounding photographers, government-mandated Internet filtering, and is no slouch when it comes to excessive surveillance and implementing the worst the Americans could come up with.

Sanctimony from the British is pretty misplaced.

We voted for Change in 2008, the problem is that it wasn't a change in the way the Government was operating, it was a change in a candidate's stated views. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/obama-whistleblower-website_n_3658815.html

Well politicians in general are Sociopaths and are not really interested in serving the public. It's all about them and how power makes them feel. Look at that idiot Weiner in NYC for example. Wait, to call him a Sociopath is too nice and an insult to other Sociopaths; he's really a retard.

Once you understand the association of politicians and Sociopaths, it's no wonder why our laws and what we call justice has been tainted by these fools. Our leaders should be reluctant to lead, should not seek out more time in office and should go back to their private lives after a short time of service; not be re-elected over and over and over again to keep their positions of power. Yeah that term limits thing again, but think about it for a moment. If term limits were enacted you wouldn't have Racist homophobes like Strom Thurmond or Robert Byrd in office all of those decades! Worse yet drunk, lying, man-slaughtering Sociopaths like Ted Kennedy in office all of those decades. But no, we now have a system of entitled elite politicians where over 75% get re-elected at every turn. If they ever do retire they usually get jobs lobbying for companies or organizations, further corrupting the work of the "people's business." That's how we get TSA nudeo scanners and laws like the DMCA and legislative packages like SOPA pushed into the legislative agenda.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/08/lavabit-edward-snowden-email_n_3728005.html

Just wow. Mod my post a troll because you do not like what I say, but the fact is there is no privacy, and you can not do anything the authority, err US government does not like.

The US owns this planet, and will reach into whatever security they want, like a hot knife in butter. With an army 10 times the size of the next 12 countries combined, the US does WTF it wants.

I'm not taking a position about it being right or wrong, simply stating the facts.

There is no privacy, nor is there any reason to believe anything you can do can remain private, if the US wants to know about it. They got bin laden didn't they? You think any privacy measure you can come up with are better than what he had?

What you mean is actually "The Democrats couldn't even get a majority on board to support a public option". If the senate was all Democrats, they could have passed it easily

No, you're wrong. Stop lying and/or trying to rewrite history. The Democrats had between 58 and 60 seats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress) and at best had about 41 people on board with a public option: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/10/public-option-support-now_n_493725.html

That's ~67% of the Democrats. That's not widespread appeal. It certainly isn't bipartisan appeal.

What ideas did the Republicans want again?

A smaller, more focused package for one: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443989204577601583402450826.html

Or malpractice reform?

Or cross-state insurance?

How about any cost controls? (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/12/14/091214fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=all).

But it's not necessarily what they wanted moreso than what they didn't want. Alot of the ideas in the bill had crossover appeal, but they were overshadowed by a mass of crap that no one liked, such as the pre-existing condition mandate and the individual mandate (which is NOT the same mandate Republicans once supported -- for just one example, the Heritage plan covered only catastrophic, NOT comprehensive expenses)

Socialized medical insurance would be nice though. Maybe it's why Canadians seem happy and friendly all the time (or maybe that's the effect of too much maple syrup).

Canadians have province level Medicare. That's a far cry from the federal-level system US proponents of "socialized medicine" are clamoring for.

Sneak it through? The biggest political debate of that year, months and months of continual coverage and debate in the media, followed by votes in congress, is "sneaking it through"?

You might want to revisit that coverage/debate. Because the bulk of that "long period" was essentially brainstorming/committees/tossing-around-ideas -- the actual bill on the other hand was only on a docket for a very small period of time before being forced through to a vote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/olympia-snowe-obama-failing-grade_n_1382838.html

Ignore the biased conclusion made by the author of this article, and focus on the statement by Snowe: "she voted for the bill in the Finance Committee, only to turn against it when it reached the decisive vote on the Senate floor. Snowe complained that the process was happening too fast, and that it was too partisan".

Hell, the woman retired because of the hyperpartisanship she saw in the government, and that was a Republican willing to cross party lines. So yes, it was snuck through, using reconciliation because they didn't have enough votes for a straight passage. AND it was against public opinion (which was like 70% opposed at the time).

Suppose a rich super-villain is ensconced on his remote island. Suppose further that the island has adequate food, water and energy to make it self-sustaining, and that the super-villain has sufficient servants/slaves to keep the place running.
In other words:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/larry-ellison-island/

What difference would it make how rich or poor the rest of the world is? None.
That is what Elysium is about, and it is already happening.

Congress clearly considers Snowden to be a whistleblower, or they wouldn't be voting on proposals to restrict the activity of the NSA http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/24/plan-to-defund-nsa-phone-collection-program-has-broad-support-sponsor-says/ Yet Obama continues to label Snowden's actions as espionage. He knows this bullshit, because apparently he's taken down from the internet his promise to protect whistleblowers http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/obama-whistleblower-website_n_3658815.html Good thing we have the Way Back Machine, then, isn't it? http://web.archive.org/web/20090227184741/http://change.gov/agenda/ethics_agenda/

All with Amazon branding to boot for a mere $250 mil. With the Boston Globe just getting sold for $70M it seems as though Newspapers are cheap enough.

Now Bezos can pump the WP articles onto Kindles royalty free. It's a bit of a shame though, I do like the WP and had a subscription when I lived in DC.

This is yet another example of how the once great Slashdot has fallen. I can remember a time where to be moded up, you needed to have great depth in your thought or informative support with links, or really, really clever/funny. Now, apparently you just have to be gratuitously liberal.

Let me bite the cough, interesting troll for a second. How is Murdoch trying to destroy the US? By providing an alternative point of view than offered by the other 4 networks? That is bad why? I thought smart, informed people, like people who read this forum seem to think they are, LIKE to see differing viewpoints then weigh them. I thought smart, informed people would be against just a small group of people controlling all thought. It doesn't bother you that most media members with a near monolithic bias control what you read, see, hear? You want there to be less choice?

Or is it, you think Fox news is inherently more inaccurate. Like say, in the Trayvon Martin case where NBC altered the 911 tape to make it sound like Zimmerman said something racist, when he did not? Not to mention the other 3 letter networks biasing opinion by showing a picture of a sweeter Trayvon when he was younger, not the larger man he grew into. Or, failing to mention he was suspended from school, his racists facebook presence, or the fact that the neighborhood in question had been terrorized by recent crime and he was walking near windows? In the whole debacle, on Fox got it right and reported something near the truth. (whether the shooting was justified is another matter. Shouldn't we at least have the correct facts?"

Or, if you hate the uber-rich using their money so much to influence media, then can you explain the absence of complaining on these forums about George Soros giving million in grants to fund left leaning journalists. Not to mention the undue influence and bias of Hollywood/tv elite doing the same thing. Or, is it just only bad in your "mind" when people from outside your narrow perspective do these things?

Perhaps you should look in the mirror first. Perhaps YOU are the shallow minded one, who only reads from biased, dishonest sources. Perhaps YOU need to broaden your outlook to other forms of thought, and not be so very scared of challenging ideas. Perhaps YOU should understand that the US needs far more saving from the likes of NBC than FOX.

Or, perhaps I should stop even dreaming about it because this is modern slashdot, where ideas and support does not matter.

-Maize

Ps. Notice the supporting links I used were from more liberal sources?

The prey is certainly aware when it dies, just some predators make that awareness shorter than others.

I think the shortest time period would be like if you passed a stop sign, and halfway into the intersection you catch a glimpse as somebody else blows right past it and straight into you, followed by approximately 15 seconds of slowly fading to black, with or without struggling. That split second of fear would be the minimum that the prey feels IMHO, with an endorphin and/or adrenaline spike potentially canceling out the rest.

I think it would be exceptionally rare for an instant kill that lacks the feeling that I just described. At least in nature anyways; farm kills almost always involve a captive bolt pistol which truly is an instant kill (animal knocked unconscious immediately and the brain matter swells and crushes itself.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr00arV2XIw

All of those PETA videos about cows being tortured are just propaganda material - doing things those ways tends to make things more difficult and labor intensive. In fact, PETA abuses animals in its care much worse than any slaughterhouse. To be honest, I'm shocked people actually give them money.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html

Wee To Low

That isn't good, but it doesn't actually mean that celebrities have some kind of inherent or national right to control their likenesses. States which disagree with this kind of outcome should make sure they repeal, or don't pass in the first place, laws like California's.

It isn't exactly BAD either.

First, in the present case(s), these were college kids, playing in what is nationally asserted as a non-pro setting.

But also, it seems quite obvious that such rulings asserting some semblance of privacy are long overdue.
The violations of all norms of behavior often goes to absolutely ridiculous extremes, which makes it pretty much
a necessity for government to step in and even the playing field. Hence California's Paparazzi Law.

That isn't good, but it doesn't actually mean that celebrities have some kind of inherent or national right to control their likenesses. States which disagree with this kind of outcome should make sure they repeal, or don't pass in the first place, laws like California's.

It isn't exactly BAD either.

First, in the present case(s), these were college kids, playing in what is nationally asserted as a non-pro setting.

But also, it seems quite obvious that such rulings asserting some semblance of privacy are long overdue.
The violations of all norms of behavior often goes to absolutely ridiculous extremes, which makes it pretty much
a necessity for government to step in and even the playing field. Hence California's Paparazzi Law.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ira-weissman/7-reasons-why-you-shouldn_b_1720870.html

Neil deGrasse Tyson shares your viewpoint.

According to him:

""I wonder if, in fact, we have been observed by aliens and upon close examination of human conduct and human behavior they have concluded that there is no sign of intelligent life on Earth," Tyson said in a recent interview with Business Insider "

Next time, go and buy doggy treats and condoms.

What? I don't want my dog to ruin the fun by barking so I have to keep him busy somehow while I fuck hi... my girlfriend.

In a hilariously incidental twist, today is the ASPCA's annual adopt-a-pet gala on Capitol Hill...

I worked in a warehouse in the summers when I was in college - grocery warehouse. That was... cripes, about twenty years ago. I made $9/hr, which was pretty good for the time. I wasn't trying to raise a family or anything on that, though; just help pay some tuition and books and stuff. Tuition was (much) lower then, the student loan rates were lower, etc.

Now, if the wages had kept pace with inflation, they'd be making over $14.50/hr. So they're actually making less in real terms than I did.

Along those lines, here's some food - so to speak - for thought: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/mcdonalds-salaries_n_3672006.html

First of all, it's a warehouse job on the floor. If you are working out on the floor: It's going to be hot. It's going to be long hours of physical activity. Complaining about these things is like complaining that farm jobs involve touching dirt (oh no!) or that waitress positions are not glamorous positions.

Second, the warehouse jobs on the floor making 10-11.5 is quite high. I don't know about you but I don't expect it to make $100,000 a year especially for a temporary position. Management and staff positions might make more however these are not mentioned or considered.

Integrity Staffing places qualified candidates to work on assignments at Amazon Warehouses on a temporary basis. Assignments vary in length. There is no guarantee to the length of the assignment. Length of employment is based on client’s business needs which can change.

Third, Amazon sells more than books unless you haven't been paying attention. Mentioning indie bookstores does what exactly? Can I get diapers in bulk at my local indie bookstore?

Maybe the better point is how the President could do more assertive things for the country like in this op-ed piece rather complaining at a faux controversy.

It is necessary because some people of both Liberal and Conservative persuasions create laws that ostensibly designed to protect their side, until which time it becomes clear that it would benefit both sides, at which point they cry foul. Hypocrissy.

In this case, people want to defend a Liberal Feminist because she received death threats, but these very same people are okay with all the hatred and vitriol spewed at Sara Palin, including death threats, not only to her, but her children.

http://therightscoop.com/sarah-palin-gets-twitter-death-threats/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/sarah-palin-bristol-palin-death-threats-dancing-with-the-stars-all-stars_n_1954253.html

People act like this kind of stuff never happens, and we need a law against it. Until it impacts them.

It's not difficult; The concern is that these government organizations are blantantly, deliberately, and willing violating said law(s), and going ahead with mass spying on the public.

At least Google tell you up front that they're going to collect data on you in some form or another.. At no point do they ever state otherwise.

With the CIA and NSA, all we have is some dodged questions and weak promises that they're actually holding up to the letter of the law. We have no way to properly audit them to ensure that they're actually in compliance, and their congressional admissions are rather concerning that they in all likelihood aren't.

How about a conspiracy theory.

We know that Bin Laden worked for and was funded by CIA during the cold war.
What if he still is on the CIA payroll and planned the attacks against WTC to increase CIA's funding and power.
After the staged man-hunt his death was faked and he now has a new identity and is living comfortably.

I see I accidentally double pasted in my previous post. Woops.

Some summary sources suggest that spicec and herbs have been in use since early hunter times, with documented uses as early as roughly 2000 BCE ([1] [mccormicks...titute.com], [2] [wikipedia.org]; and I'm half of Chinese descent).

I guess the general use of spices and herbs from around the world does go back a bit further than I thought. Thinking about it a bit more, the use of potent plants for medicinal purposes also seems like something that has been around for quite a while: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_medicine
There also does seem to be evidence of genetic adaptation to certain herbs, such as coriander: http://www.nature.com/news/soapy-taste-of-coriander-linked-to-genetic-variants-1.11398

I guess all the evidence points to using copious amounts of herbs is a good idea, health-wise. On the other hand it doesn't really make a case for avoiding synthetic preservatives. In fact, if we focus on the anti-microbial properties of herbs and spices, synthetic (anti-microbial) preservatives should also sound like a good idea. If on the other hand herbs and spices are beneficial due to vitamin and mineral content, synthetic preservatives lose out completely.

I don't really know either. I've heard about things like red-meat cravings for people with mild anemia

You seem to have mentioned the 'one' exception :) ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/food-cravings_n_1940299.html )
They mention sugar and its connection to serotonin, which I found interesting and related, and that lead me to this:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201105/sunlight-sugar-and-serotonin (most interesting bit in the last paragraph)
Also, interestingly, other mammals tend to seek out (crave for) umami food:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867403008444

Returning to the point about evolution and nutrients, one wonders what humans generally consume in a primitive society. From what I can find, modern day tribes in Africa and the Amazon mainly hunt animals, grow starch-rich 'vegetables', and pick fruit, nuts and some herbs. Apparently, growing leafy vegetables isn't all that 'natural'. On the other hand, if herbs are beneficial to health due to vitamin and mineral content, it kind of makes sense to cultivate something that is almost all leaves and easily edible. As much as I like herbs, I'm not going to eat 200 grams of them each day.

I didn't mean that present nutrients would be less absorbed or that other nutrient signals wouldn't still exist, just that those signals would get bundled up with there always being a sugar reward no matter the food source, and we might learn to seek out food largely on this anticipated reward.

This argument would work if we would experience rewards from eating things with certain other nutrients (vitamins, minerals and such), which I believe is not or hardly the case. I.e.: I'm not so sure those other signals even exist.

Well if you want to go ahead and taste-test corn-starch slurries with varying degrees of starch and salt, you go right ahead. And tell me the results :-)

I believe that means we have arrived at a stalemate here ;-)
We need a volunteer to test this for us. For science!

Another idea that I've heard that I guess may be related to the taste inhibition idea (maybe you've alre

Obama promised not to scramble jets to get Snowden and two days later he forced a presidential plane down on suspicions that Snowden might be onboard. Of course, technically he didn't lie as he did this by his european puppet proxies. Eric Holder is even worse than Obama - overtly corrupt as contrasted to typical politicians who at least try to look honest. If he says he "won't torture nor kill", this is propably on the table. US of A desperately wants to make an example of Snowden - even if it will be messy and incur severe political costs. Those fucks want to prevent future whistleblowers by setting example now painful it is to have spine and resist criminal behavior of US government or US corporations.

Since Gen. Alexander & president Obama did "last second 'lobbying'" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/justin-amash-amendment_n_3647893.html [huffingtonpost.com] ONLY - & yes, I strongly suspect that of those mere 7 votes, the ones that sent it over the top were coerced. After all, nobody's going to tell me that J. Edgar Hoover style blackmail tactics or bribes/favors (ala lobbyists, since that is all that really is with another term assigned to it) didn't take place. Nobody in their RIGHT MIND likes this stuff going on, period. Nobody. Clapper & Alexander outright LIED to congress (twisting words using DIRECTLY, just like how they CLAIM there is no easy CENTRAL way to query their own mail but they do it to everyone else - I found that hilarious & disgusting, since mail is really DBMail and to select/insert/update/delete into those, you NEED to have abilities for that... What they told us, unless someone can show me otherwise, is total bullshit. Hypocritical bullshit). It's wrong. Just like screwing with protesters was. Just like the IRS used against political opponents of the current regime in office. I started looking at all of this madness & lunacy and just was utterly disgusted. Most folks, are. This is insane. Truly insane. Why does this concern me and it should you all as well? I was told decades ago by a history professor of mine in collegiate academia this: "Totalitarian regimes start with 'little laws' they pass, getting an inch, & reaching for a mile: Before you know it, you are Nazi Germany/Soviet Russia USA: DO NOT THINK IT CANNOT HAPPEN HERE" & even former President Carter feels the same http://now.msn.com/jimmy-carter-says-the-nsa-has-eliminated-a-functioning-democracy [msn.com] I used to think HISTORY was a waste of my time then. That was until I figured out that the "powers that be" use it as a guidebook for scamming the populace. Polishing up the mistakes those that set the pattern for what they're doing messed up on, & just trying it again, often a generation or two later. These guys have to be reined in. No questions asked. Why? "Absolute Power Corrupting Absolutely". Sooner or later, that kind of power goes to ANYONE's head and they will abuse it. Heck, they lied to Congress, nothing was done. The head of the IRS didn't lose her job either. I suspect that Clapper, Alexander, & the IRS head told Obama "Pal, you fire me? I will let the dogs out on the FACT you gave ME THE 'GO-AHEAD' to do these things and I will take you down with me. Try it!". That's how "politicians" operate. Thuggery, bribery, etc. and the USA isn't happy either http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/23/19644154-nbcwsj-poll-faith-in-dc-hits-a-low-83-percent-disapprove-of-congress?lite [nbcnews.com] and I certainly didn't see their machinations stop the Boston Bomber either. The trade off/cost-benefit ratio of effectiveness vs. actual crmiinals with their bogus programs is far outweighed by the potentials for misuse. As far as misuse of powers? See just SOME of the examples above that make folks have that all-time low faith in government. What they're doing is dangerous to us all, no questions asked, & fits the pattern described to me by my former history Prof. (smart man, he left a real impression on me back in 1985 with that statement quoted above in fact. I never forgot it, but felt then as a young man it was bullshit... funny how his words are coming to pass now, nearly 30 yrs. later).

APK

P.S.=> Quotes from that article: Conyers said the lobbying "was heavy. They were very worried about it." But, he added, "the fact that they won this narrowly means they still are worried -- because this thing isn't over yet. This is just the beginning

Since Gen. Alexander & president Obama did "last second 'lobbying'" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/justin-amash-amendment_n_3647893.html ONLY - & yes, I strongly suspect that of those mere 7 votes, the ones that sent it over the top were coerced. After all, nobody's going to tell me that J. Edgar Hoover style blackmail tactics or bribes/favors (ala lobbyists, since that is all that really is with another term assigned to it) didn't take place. Nobody in their RIGHT MIND likes this stuff going on, period. Nobody. Clapper & Alexander outright LIED to congress (twisting words using DIRECTLY, just like how they CLAIM there is no easy CENTRAL way to query their own mail but they do it to everyone else - I found that hilarious & disgusting, since mail is really DBMail and to select/insert/update/delete into those, you NEED to have abilities for that... What they told us, unless someone can show me otherwise, is total bullshit. Hypocritical bullshit). It's wrong. Just like screwing with protesters was. Just like the IRS used against political opponents of the current regime in office. I started looking at all of this madness & lunacy and just was utterly disgusted. Most folks, are. This is insane. Truly insane. Why does this concern me and it should you all as well? I was told decades ago by a history professor of mine in collegiate academia this: "Totalitarian regimes start with 'little laws' they pass, getting an inch, & reaching for a mile: Before you know it, you are Nazi Germany/Soviet Russia USA: DO NOT THINK IT CANNOT HAPPEN HERE" & even former President Carter feels the same http://now.msn.com/jimmy-carter-says-the-nsa-has-eliminated-a-functioning-democracy I used to think HISTORY was a waste of my time then. That was until I figured out that the "powers that be" use it as a guidebook for scamming the populace. Polishing up the mistakes those that set the pattern for what they're doing messed up on, & just trying it again, often a generation or two later. These guys have to be reined in. No questions asked. Why? "Absolute Power Corrupting Absolutely". Sooner or later, that kind of power goes to ANYONE's head and they will abuse it. Heck, they lied to Congress, nothing was done. The head of the IRS didn't lose her job either. I suspect that Clapper, Alexander, & the IRS head told Obama "Pal, you fire me? I will let the dogs out on the FACT you gave ME THE 'GO-AHEAD' to do these things and I will take you down with me. Try it!". That's how "politicians" operate. Thuggery, bribery, etc. and the USA isn't happy either http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/23/19644154-nbcwsj-poll-faith-in-dc-hits-a-low-83-percent-disapprove-of-congress?lite and I certainly didn't see their machinations stop the Boston Bomber either. The trade off/cost-benefit ratio of effectiveness vs. actual crmiinals with their bogus programs is far outweighed by the potentials for misuse. As far as misuse of powers? See just SOME of the examples above that make folks have that all-time low faith in government. What they're doing is dangerous to us all, no questions asked, & fits the pattern described to me by my former history Prof. (smart man, he left a real impression on me back in 1985 with that statement quoted above in fact. I never forgot it, but felt then as a young man it was bullshit... funny how his words are coming to pass now, nearly 30 yrs. later).

APK

P.S.=> Quotes from that article: Conyers said the lobbying "was heavy. They were very worried about it." But, he added, "the fact that they won this narrowly means they still are worried -- because this thing isn't over yet. This is just the beginning." ... They ought to be w

But with fluoride added to the water supply, we can reverse those gains..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/fluoride_b_2479833.html

It all traces back to this guy: http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/yiamouyiannis.html

then immediately lost it back with fluoride in the water.

But with fluoride added to the water supply, we can reverse those gains..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/fluoride_b_2479833.html

The NSA called an emergency private briefing to lobby the house against the amendment, so maybe it does matter: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/23/keith-alexander-justin-amash_n_3639329.html

"The federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, better known as "vaccine court," has just awarded millions of dollars to two children with autism for "pain and suffering" and lifelong care of their injuries, which together could cost tens of millions of dollars." ..

"Some observers will say the vaccine-induced encephalopathy (brain disease) documented in both children is unrelated to their autism spectrum disorder (ASD). Others will say there is plenty of evidence to suggest otherwise. link

Microsoft's Bill Gates, the worlds richest man and a former boy scout, wants the boy scouts to lift the gay ban. Gates said he had enjoyed being a Scout. When Allen turned the conversation to the organization's ban on gay members and leaders, Gates said the policy "absolutely" needed to be scrapped. "Why," prodded Allen. "Because it's 2013," Gates replied, prompting a spontaneous burst of boisterous applause from the audience.

ThinkProgress notes that Gates has shown his support for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) equality measures in the past, donating hundreds of thousands of dollars toward the Washington state marriage equality campaign.

The Boy Scouts has come under increasing fire lately for its longstanding ban on gay members, with poll numbers and a host of celebrities lending support to the cause.

Implying Obama hasn't taken care of business?

He's been getting so much done, he's had time to comment on a trial in Florida! Forget about the IRS, Syria, Benghazi, Fast and Furious (fuck everyone involved in this), NSA unconstitutional domestic spying, keeping tax cuts, patriot act garbage. There is a long list of issues that really need to be addressed in this country, and we're too busy squabbling about little shit.

He averted an econopocalypse. There were not runs on the banks. FDIC didn't come into play. The stock market bounced back, if not the job market.

The whole thing began because of pressure from the government on the banks. In addition, 290,000 fewer people were counted as unemployed because they were not actively looking for work. That drop in those seeking jobs was the reason the unemployment rate fell to 7.6%, the lowest since December 2008. Second Largest Employer In America Is Temp Agency. And the stock market? Is not a bastion for the American middleclass.

He ramped down our military action in Iraq and Afghanistan. In such a way that was a non-newsworthy event. This is a SLAM DUNK.

Not according to the facts. All because of this due to the military industrial complex not to mention the deaths of thousands, for what, freedom?

But all in all he's got shit done. Despite the massive resistance he's facing from the Republicans.

Fuck all the partisan posturing. What's the narrative when he had a democrat majority in the senate and House? Why don't we take an objective look at what both of the hands are doing to for the body they're attached to?

From the article you cited:

"I think he has committed crimes in effect by violating agreements given the position he had," he continued. "I think it's one of the worst occasions in my memory of somebody with access to classified information doing enormous damage to the national security interests of the United States."

The best thing to do with the Cheney quote is forget Cheney said it about Snowden. Re-read the quote, and imagine somebody else said it about Cheney. Which version rings more true?

Mod parent up.

We need more brave politicians to finally speak their minds about this instead of fearing the surveillance machine.

What are you talking about? There are plenty of politicians speaking their minds about Snowden -- but I don't know if I'd call them "brave." Looking at just the previous administration, George W. Bush:

I think he damaged the security of the country

And Dick Cheney:

I think he's a traitor

Of course, as another poster mentioned, they've got nothing to lose same as Carter.

Yeah, well Bush and Cheney are like two criminals who've never been tried for the scan of engaging the US in Iraq. I can't see them finding a silver lining in any of this. Somewhere along the line the Bush Whitehouse decided to behave like J. Edgar Hoover, sans dresses.

Mod parent up. We need more brave politicians to finally speak their minds about this instead of fearing the surveillance machine.

What are you talking about? There are plenty of politicians speaking their minds about Snowden -- but I don't know if I'd call them "brave." Looking at just the previous administration, George W. Bush:

I think he damaged the security of the country

And Dick Cheney:

I think he's a traitor

Of course, as another poster mentioned, they've got nothing to lose same as Carter.

If we never bother to explore the question we just don't really know. There very well could be many biomarkers for violence. How we act on that knowledge is the real moral dilemma. I personally think they are too close to the subject and really if they want to help others they would just fund the research. However, we already have one linked biomarker, and that's lead exposure - but we can't just start rounding up everyone with higher blood-lead concentrations and force them into chelation therapy. Obviously the benign solution is to remove lead sources, such as paints and leaded gasoline. If the culprit turns out to be DNA, then obviously this becomes a much larger issue.

Since the insight eludes you, Zimmerman could be taken for a German name which might suggest European ethnicity.

George Zimmerman's father: My son is not racist, did not confront Trayvon Martin
"George is a Spanish speaking minority with many black family members and friends. "

Trayvon Martin Case: George Zimmerman's Race Is A Complicated Matter

Is this really that hard? I'm pretty sure you don't know what you are talking about.

I agree with you that he should sue, and win.

The charges filed against Zimmerman, and that the trial went forward on, was 2nd degree murder. The prosecutor only added manslaughter at the last minute after the judge wouldn't let him add 3rd degree murder (due to "child abuse") as a change, just days before the case wen to the jury.

The case against Zimmerman is weak at best, and certainly appears to be politically motivated. That doesn't mean he won't be convicted though. The site Legal Insurrection has some interesting and informed commentary, by actual lawyers!

Racial politics supported by State power come down on George Zimmerman
In Audio Recording, Department of Justice Official Urges Protesters to Seek ‘Justice’ for Trayvon Martin
Branco Cartoon – Fanning the Flames ---> example ---> George Zimmerman Sues NBC Over Edited 911 Tape

I wonder if the SERE instructors who waterboarded this veteran were prosecuted?

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/mg_moore/waterboarding-101-inside_b_190318_23421768.html

I find very little credibility in what you're saying, and a lot in what this guy says:

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/ProudAmerican23/waterboarding-101-inside_b_190318_23413168.html

I wonder if the SERE instructors who waterboarded this veteran were prosecuted?

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/mg_moore/waterboarding-101-inside_b_190318_23421768.html

I find very little credibility in what you're saying, and a lot in what this guy says:

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/ProudAmerican23/waterboarding-101-inside_b_190318_23413168.html

Or Jackie Chan can prove he is not dead.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/25/jackie-chan-death-hoax_n_3498793.html

You might want to edit that. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/27/teenager-justin-carter-facebook-comment-jail_n_3512025.html I charge $100,000 for prank calling them though.