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Geim also won the Ig Nobel
TFA asks: "Finally, are you one of those Nobel prizewinners who is going to go crazy now that you've won? "
The interviewer probably didn't know that Dr. Geim won the Ig Nobel for levitating a frog.
Between that and the fact that he cited saving taxpayer's money as a reason behind not filing a patent and his Friday experiments (which led to the scotch-tape on graphite) discovery, I think I have a new hero. -
Re:Fox News! Burn it! Burn it with fire!
Yes, there is an error in the Fox News article. Here is a quote from the official site instead:
ECONOMICS PRIZE: The executives and directors of Goldman Sachs, AIG, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, and Magnetar for creating and promoting new ways to invest money -- ways that maximize financial gain and minimize financial risk for the world economy, or for a portion thereof.
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May we candidate him...
...for the Ig Nobel prize ?!?
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Ignoble Prize
I hope he wins the Ignoble Prize. I think it would be a fitting honor. http://improbable.com/ig/
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Ignoble prize, anyone ?
This looks to me like an attempt to win an ignoble prize. Just like this one, which was an actual winner: http://improbable.com/ig/2002/scrotal-asymmetry.pdf "Scrotal Asymmetry in Man and in Ancient Scupture"
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Wired is 15 years late.....
The Annals of Improbable Research, a published journal, has been doing this since 1995. http://improbable.com/
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-- Has been since 1995
---Has every issue published since the start
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Ig Nobel Prizes
Sounds a lot like the Ig Nobel Prizes... http://improbable.com/ig/
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You could RTFA
Or you could just read the source for these sorts of stories going back twenty years.
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Re:More to the point...
Don't go comparing AU / UK to US TV viewing habits with comparing Apples and Oranges!
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Re:Makes sense
Maybe it's a similar effect to one of the conclusions from "A prompt plus delayed contingency procedure for reducing bathroom graffiti". When a space is well taken care of maybe people unconsciously realize that someone's paying attention to the space and act accordingly.
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Cage match
We've got to get this thing together with this guy.
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One for the igNobel?
That is alot of poop! Maybe a researcher could study this a go for the igNobel award.
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Re:Cute robot
Your post reminds me a little of the "Postal Experiments" that I remember reading about amongst some comments here on Slashdot nearly 10 years ago:
We sent a variety of unpackaged items to U.S. destinations, appropriately stamped for weight and size, as well as a few items packaged as noted. We sent items that loosely fit into the following general categories: valuable, sentimental, unwieldy, pointless, potentially suspicious, and disgusting.
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Ig Nobel
A shoo-in! Nominate now at http://improbable.com/
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Nominee for igNobel awards.
This guy should be nominated for the igNobel awards.
The igNobel website:
http://improbable.com/ig/Nominate an candidate. Like this fellow:
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Nominee for igNobel awards.
This guy should be nominated for the igNobel awards.
The igNobel website:
http://improbable.com/ig/Nominate an candidate. Like this fellow:
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Re:My memories of Edward Teller
The SF Chronicle columnist Herb Caen ran a story the next day saying that Teller was dressed as the angel of peace.
An interesting story about a man who was awarded the first Ig-nobel prize for peace:for his lifelong efforts to change the meaning of peace as we know it.
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Re:Wow..
IT and science aren't known for their amazing comic value
What about the Ig Nobel awards?
This year's chemistry prize was split between two teams of doctors. One team discovered that Coke is an effective spermacide. The other team discovered that it is not.
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Re:Deserves an award... doh
Balls, I so much for not actually checking the links in the preview.
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improbable.com
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Re:I know it's all in fun...
Absolutely. The summary and linked article get it wrong. The Ig Nobel prizes are not about "irrelevant" research:
The Ig Nobel Prizes honor achievements that first make people laugh, and then make them think. The prizes are intended to celebrate the unusual, honor the imaginative -- and spur people's interest in science, medicine, and technology.
From the Ig Nobel WebsiteA lot of scientific research seems pointless or silly to people who don't know what it's really about or why it was done. Hence the regular "still no cure for cancer" and "I can't believe my tax dollars fund this" comments. The Ig Nobel prizes acknowledge that science can sometimes seem funny on the surface, but they definitely do not concede that it is irrelevant.
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Re:No Safe Harbor
No idea. I only heard about it when some silly people wanted to post a balloon (and therefore pay negative postage based on weight). They refused based on this rule although I imagine it's really meant for compressed gas.
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Re:a candidate for the ignobel prize?
Personally I'd recommend against nominating them. The Igs are
intended to celebrate the unusual, honor the imaginative, and spur people's interest in science. -- sourceI don't think I'd like to see them used to reward incompetence, or research based on contrived testing conditions and thereby leading to a foregone conclusion, which is what this is.
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a candidate for the ignobel prize?
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Re:Huge assumption in the title
Experiments have proven that red objects and blue objects exert the same gravitational force?
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure that if anyone had done the study, it would have been reported here.
I wonder if GP post was about the discrepancies in velocity of the Voyagers and some other satellites? It seems like gravity might have dependencies we don't know anything about.
Probably not color, though. Maybe shapes: maybe cuboidal gravity is different from spherical gravity is different from cylindrical gravity.
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Ig Nobel instead of Darwin
ok, tagging is beta, but shouldn't this one be tagged as "ignobel" instead of "darwinawards" ?
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Re:slashdotted
The Coral Cache version of the first two links:
http://en.wikipedia.org.nyud.net:8090/wiki/Annals_of_Improbable_Research
http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9837983-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20&coral-no-serve
I couldn't find cache on the third link, but the original appears to be up-ish (Up but slow)
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science myths
Hair is the source of all power.
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Re:Wow - Amiga
Much more different than apples and oranges
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Re:I support the IRS on this issue
Apples and oranges can be compared, and to try and claim that they are significantly different is flawed. Here are two studies that back me up.
http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volum e1/v1i3/air-1-3-apples.html
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/botrender.fcgi?bl obtype=html&artid=27565
Also, the fellow has a point, no matter that there are two or three levels of government taxing you, they are still taxing the same income. This is a flaw in federal systems. (In Australia, while both federal and state governments can raise taxes anyway they want (almost), the federal government is the only government that taxes income or has a sales tax on general items and services. The states have stamp taxes and the like, and the local councils rates. The federal government then provides most of the states their income (in fact the GST was intended to replace stamp duties, hasn't happened of course). -
Re:RTFA, again
Bah. Karma Whore?
Here are two links that compare apples and oranges.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcg i?artid=27565%22
http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volum e1/v1i3/air-1-3-apples.html
Basically, they are incredibly easy to compare. Simply get out a ruler, scales and other scientific instruments and measure each, then compare. Fucking easy.
And if you say that they are so obviously different, well not if you grind them down to a paste, heat them for fifty minutes at 48 degrees and then compare.
Come on, it is a stupid saying, get over it already.
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Re:apples and oranges
Posting anonymously so that I can use my mod points
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcg i?artid=27565%22
http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volum e1/v1i3/air-1-3-apples.html
Two links that compare apples and oranges.
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Re:Very low level API
Try comparing apples to apples next time, please.
"Comparing apples to oranges" is perfectly valid. Please use a different silly analogy.
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2001 Astrophysics Ig Nobel
My favourite Ig Nobel laureates still have to be Jack & Rexella van Impe, who won the 2001 Astrophysics Ig Nobel ". .
.for their discovery that black holes fulfill all the technical requirements to be the location of Hell." -
Re:For a moment...
I bet Scientist/Supermodel Symmetra could do it. http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volu
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oranges too...
And yes, these can be compared.
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Re:So
This has already been tried, in Australia. In fact, the law won an IgNobel prize for John Keogh and the Australian Patent Office for patenting the wheel in the year 2001. Apparently he did it to demonstrate that the new patent laws were pointless. I have no idea if his patent has ever been challenged in court!
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My nominee for...... the Ig Nobel Prize.
Of COURSE we are hard-wired (in some manner) for geometry!!!
We're visual creatures operating in (a perceived) Euclidean space!
How could we not be (geometry-aware)?
As to the implication that we have some innate ability to reason geometrically, I think the folks at MSNBC and the AAAS must not have tried any mathematical proofs recently (or perhaps ever).
THERE's an area where there is ample evidence that we have zilch in the way of pre-wiring (a.k.a. "instinct"), and must undergo extensive pain and effort to wire ourselves to perform logical reasoning -- a skill that is foreign to most of the human population.
There's a pretty substantial chasm between the ability to recognize lines and shapes, and the ability to develop a method for bisecting an angle (using straight edge and compass) and showing that such a method is correct (i.e., develop a proof).
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Re: Sense of humour
I don't know if anyone noticed, but the author of the original article is given as: Marc Abrahams is editor of the bimonthly magazine Annals of Improbable Research http://www.improbable.com/ and organiser of the Ig Nobel Prize. The
/. discussion has been very inspiring, far beyond what Marc had in mind when he published this. -
Re:Size matters...
Comparing apples and oranges is perfectly valid...
http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volum e1/v1i3/air-1-3-apples.html
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De-Bunking the Apples & Oranges Myth
Scott A. Sanford of the NASA AMES Research Center offers this dubunking http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volu
m e1/v1i3/air-1-3-apples.html/(WARNING: this site often returns 404s) of the Apples and Oranges comparison myth at the HotAIR website. So I think our friends at Mythbusters should not use that particular analogy anymore. -
Re:No favourites?Wow, that apples and oranges myth was well busted ages ago. In a scientific journal.
On the other hand, Kansas is flatter than a pancake
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Re:No favourites?Wow, that apples and oranges myth was well busted ages ago. In a scientific journal.
On the other hand, Kansas is flatter than a pancake
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Re:"Navigation system?"
In Australia, someone patented the wheel.
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Apples and Oranges - Re:Depends on the ApplicationZigbee is for low data rate- larger range. Bluetooth is high data rate- low range. like comparing Apples and Oranges.
There is nothing wrong with comparing apples to oranges.
Please see: Apples and Oranges -- A Comparison [www.improbably.com - Annals of Improbable Research]
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Re:Monopolosaurus Rex
I say socialize the monopolies. Turn them into government owned buisenesses like the USPS. The USPS is remarkably reliable. To give a recent anecdote: I ordered a hard drive from an internet buisness on the evening of Nov. 22. It was sent FedEx ground and I have yet to receive it. The tracking no shows it was picked up by FedEx on Monday. I ordered an external hard drive enclosure on Sunday and it was sent via USPS. I received the enclosure yesterday. Over the course of my life I have come to expect consitent good service from the USPS. I do not have near as high of expectations from UPS or FedEx, because they consitently disappoint.
If the telephone and cable companies were government owned, I would expect similiar levels of high service as to the USPS.
As an aside, buried on FedEx's website there is a notice as of October that they will no longer require signatures for any home deliveries. I would advise everyone to plan your holiday shipping accordingly. -
Re:Late again
This is comparing apples vs oranges.
Are you sure that you want to say this?
Comparing apples vs oranges is no longer considered valid
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Re:In related news
kansas is flatter than a pancake:
http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volum e9/v9i3/kansas.html -
Re:Not surprising
Well, Kansas is scientifically flatter than a pancake. http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volu
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Re:Confirmation?
He won a NOBEL prize. He literally swept the IgNobels, though.