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Are all Texans as offensive as their elected representative?

No, not all of them. Unfortunately, those who dare to express their disgust (especially if CUR_LOCATION != "USA") don't get favorable treatment from certain particularly offensive Texans (who just happen to run country music radio).

Please explain how the US government is making "...attacks are specifically targeted at creating a state of terror in a civilian population..."

"There's the biggest difference. When Americans sit down to plan about blowing things up, they actually put potential casualties and/or collateral damage on the agenda for discussion prior to doing so."

We don't count civilian casualties

If our tax dollars are paying for it, it shouldn't be termed as "proprietary".

Because lowercase/uppercase could be a harder problem if you use a language which allows Unicode symbols (Perl6?). (Is this possible? I have no idea).

I once worked with some Java code written by Germans. The code won't compile if your locale is C, because they use a few umlauts. What fun, what fun!

-1 for massive propagandistic cut and paste. It's nice that he even copied the misspellings!

Here are some great sources for news online:

Financial Times - FT a good example of actual "news reporting" (as opposed to "news creating" exhibited by most companies). As a result of the commercial influence in all aspects of society nowadays, it makes perfect sense that some of the financial news sources may now be the most objective source of information. Check out this wonderful site and newspaper.

PR Watch - This site is run by the Center for Media & Democracy is a nonprofit, public interest organization funded by individuals and nonprofit foundations and dedicated to investigative reporting on the public relations industry. The Center serves citizens, journalists and researchers seeking to recognize and combat manipulative and misleading PR practices. There is an excellent weekly newsletter you can subscribe to from this site which summarizes news stories and special issues where media coverage was manipulated.

Disinfopedia - a collaborative project to produce a directory of public relations firms, think tanks, industry-funded organizations and industry-friendly experts that work to influence public opinion and public policy on behalf of corporations, governments and special interests. More than 2500 articles outlining information and credentials on key individuals and entities involved with public policy and other areas. This is a great resource to look up the history of people in the news.

Link TV - The first national network offering a global perspective on news, current events and culture, presenting viewpoints seldom covered in the U.S. media. We present first-run documentaries on global issues, current affairs series, international news, classic foreign feature films, and the best of world music. Link TV's programming, combined with innovative use of two-way digital link-ups and our participatory web site, deepens audience engagement and encourages active participation. If you have DirecTV, this network is channel 375 - ask your cable provider if they do not make this network available - it's worth it!

Democratic Underground - What has turned out to be a polarized web site has become a watchdog for the mainstream media, the Democratic Underground exposes the hypocrisy and sleaziness in the media. Check this site out folks -- with references (something you do not find on conservative sites)

CorpWatch - A great site for information on the nefarious activities of multinational corporations. Want to find out who's paid off whom? Which governments are under the influence of which corporations? Little-known corporate relationships that explain unusual social or political events? This is the site to check.

Adbusters - In our society it has become increasingly difficult to separate editorial from advertising and many argue there is no longer a distinction. This site addresses the social changes in how people are educated by addressing the impact of news and the advertising media and exposes the propaganda campaigns. Very good reading, and in many cases, shockingly thought-provoking!

Common Dreams News Center - Billed as "Breaking news & views for the Progressive community",
this site endeavors to carry stories that the mainstream media may either not be reporting, or not telling all sides.

Canadian Broadcast Corporation - Canada's state-owned news service is widely regarded as one of the most objective sources of information.

Independent Media Center - A good source for news stories that the mainstream doesn't pick up. This site is particularly sensitive to the influence corporate America has over what is and is

Is that the documentary about Chomsky? I think the documentary makers probably care about pirating. After all, they make their living off that. Chomky probably cares too. However, he is an anarchist and most anarchists don't respect copyrights* so I'm not sure.

* Not all anarchists ignore copyrights but many do. In case you are wondering why anarchists don't respect copyrights, it's because they view copyrights as being legitimized by authority (as opposed to choice). This is one of the reason anarchist or anarchist-like websites (eg. indymedia.org) have postings blatantly violating copyright. For exmaple, people post full articles without paying the copyright holder (especially from newspapers or from other people's websites). Even on Slashdot, some people post full articles even though that is a blatant violation of copyright).

Sivaram Velauthapillai

I wish I'd found this topic before it had picked up 1000+ replies, but in case anyone is still reading, here's my "you can't say that":

Natalie Maines, lead singer of the Dixie Chicks, throws out an off-the-cuff quip while on tour in England. She said, "Just so you know, we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas." Country radio stations, especially the corporate soundalikes, pull the Chicks' "Travelin' Soldier" -- a song about war and sacrifice in the Vietnam era.

Of course, this leaves people with the impression that country listeners are uneducated rednecks with a shotgun in the truck window and truck balls hanging from the bumper. That's not the case... not all country fans steamrollered their CDs, and those that did probably bought more (the album's 4x platinum). But it's hard to listen if the radio doesn't play something... so as long as Clear Channel & co. treat their listeners like fools, the Chicks won't get play.

Meanwhile, with a dozen Americans a week dying in Iraq (and my cousin serving in Tikrit to boot), I can't say I'm terribly proud of the Texan in the White House, myself.

Yes yes, somewhat offtopic I know, but a google search on the author gave me this piece which I found hilarious.

Although to be honest, I did expect this fellow to be a ranting flamer from the Inquirer article...

Listen what Ms say in its advertisements about Linux Server security:

Take a look at the german MS advertisement

- no GUI for linux server on old hardware
- authentification with uncrypthed text as default
- no Kerberos support
- no smartcart authentification support
- no public key infrastructure with directory service
- no default cryptho file system

translated "the protection of sensitive business data can only partiell be done with Linux"

- bug fixes by "free will" contributors (may be okay for hobby applications, not for sensitive business data)
- few professional trained specialists

- Linux as a problem and cost trap

--- don't tell me this is FUD :-)

No, not at all.

Paul Martin has made noises about 'increasing democracy' for years now, but the actual fact of the matter is that he only cares about democracy when it is 'clamoring' for his place at the top table, courtesy of his nameless, faceless attack goons.

Remember that this is the guy who was supposed to have put his assets (Canada Shipping Lines) in a blind trust, but didn't. This is the guy who out sourced / made redundant Canadian crews at CSL and then refused to talk about it. Corporate welfare? How about a C$4.4bn tax cut for corporations? He also canned affordable housing as a government priority.

I remember when he ran for election in my Montreal riding. I also distinctly remember voting Conservative, something I am rather embarrassed to admit, because the appeal of a second-generation politician running for election based on what Daddy could give him was in the negative figures for me.

There's only one reason he's PM right now -- the right in Canada is a fucking joke. After however many years of Chretien somnambulance Canadians want something that reinforces their complacency. Paul Martin fits that bill.

I think he should buy good kneepads and a bib for when he finally meets Bush, it's obvious he needs them.

No, not at all.

Paul Martin has made noises about 'increasing democracy' for years now, but the actual fact of the matter is that he only cares about democracy when it is 'clamoring' for his place at the top table, courtesy of his nameless, faceless attack goons.

Remember that this is the guy who was supposed to have put his assets (Canada Shipping Lines) in a blind trust, but didn't. This is the guy who out sourced / made redundant Canadian crews at CSL and then refused to talk about it. Corporate welfare? How about a C$4.4bn tax cut for corporations? He also canned affordable housing as a government priority.

I remember when he ran for election in my Montreal riding. I also distinctly remember voting Conservative, something I am rather embarrassed to admit, because the appeal of a second-generation politician running for election based on what Daddy could give him was in the negative figures for me.

There's only one reason he's PM right now -- the right in Canada is a fucking joke. After however many years of Chretien somnambulance Canadians want something that reinforces their complacency. Paul Martin fits that bill.

I think he should buy good kneepads and a bib for when he finally meets Bush, it's obvious he needs them.

Rush hasn't been charged with anything

Yet. As evidence accumulates, it may be difficult to avoid charging him.

although he was part of an investigation

He may still be under investigation.

The formerly tranked-up, aptly-named "Rush", may yet have his day in court. Given his advocacy of turning up prosecutorial heat on white drug abusers, he should strongly consider turning himself in and admitting his guilt in being the primary beneficiary of a private, high-dollar drug ring..

they were used on 9/11 by the Mossad to steer jets into the World Trade Center.

This could be carried further into a whole indymedia via BT. It would be even harder for governments and industry to silent dissident voices.

WSIS might sound like a boring bureaucratic exercise, but there's a strong chance that governments are going to walk away from it with new international agreements in their pockets to pass laws in their own countries restricting the free flow of information.

Quoting the "WSIS? We Seize!" press release:

'While the official agenda of this UN/ITU Summit talks about "free access to information", "the digital divide" and "equality of opportunities", in reality its doors are closed, its discussions exclusive and the agendas of those who attend it concealed. What's more, the right to demonstrate and protest has been suspended in Geneva at this time, as the usual parade of despots and tyrants fly in to Switzerland to define policy for their own citizens, and the rest of the world, based on the agendas of corporate multinationals, media conglomerates and infrastructure owners.

Geneva03 is a temporary network of groups and individuals set up to carry out agitational, educational and communications work during both the G8 and the WSIS. Geneva03 considers it critical to show, during such a display of media power and control, that independent groups and people have the ability to create their own media, to share media, self publish, build networks and communicate freely and autonomously. That's why we've titled our events during this time WSIS? WE SEIZE! We do not consider that negotiation and supplication before the altar of the UN will produce information autonomy for all. Instead, we are taking our autonomy now, using the means and technologies at our disposal: the Internet, peer to peer networks, Free and Open Source Software, community wireless infrastructures, pirate television and radio and streamed media. Beyond questions of communications technology, We Seize! seeks to open a wide-ranging discussion on the new social conditions that constitute today's world about which the WSIS has little or nothing to say: media concentration, expansive intellectual property regimes, casualised and immaterial labour and migration.

We insist that this urge to speak, to hear and be heard, is irrepressible. The Geneva03 group returns to Geneva following major attempts at repression during the G8 this year, in which the group were targetted by police whilst running an independent media centre. No charges were brought against the group, because - whatever the establishment would like us to believe - it is still lawful to freely express ourselves. We must, however, continue to exercise this ability, to expand and test it in diverse situations, if we are not to lose the freedom and potential that defines us as people.

Communication, language and information are essential to understanding both control and liberation in this new millenium. They are simultaneously the site of the most repressive and totalitarian suppression and disciplining we have seen since the 1950s and, we believe, the basis of a powerful, growing autonomous movement. Ultimately this movement must cut to the very heart of communication: for what we are able to articulate, we are able to create. We must speak of a new world without fear, and with all the creativity, energy and commitment we can find.'
(end quote)

If you want to know more, here are some useful links:

Good background article on Indymedia Global

WSIS? We Seize!

The World Forum on Communication Rights

Polimedia Lab

Civil Society news centre for the WSIS

Indymedia UK WSIS 2003 section

or show an increase or decrease in crime as guns are either outlawed or legagalized in a country.

Then how about Vancouver BC, Austraila, England and Whales:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/11/95799.php

I don't have a very strong opinion about how the last day at the Waco compound should have been handled. However, being a Texan, I have tons of opinions about how it should have been handled leading up to the disaster on the final day.

I didn't post any links regarding Clarke's involvement, because I thought it would be common knowledge by anyone who's read up on him. He was the commandant at Ft. Hood at the time, and authorized use of military vehicles and personnel for use by the ATF, which is a violation of federal law. You can find information here, here, or if you prefer threads, here, or if you would rather trust conglomerate media, you're on your own, as I don't hit any of those sites. You could probably google if you like though.

About how Waco was handled in the first place though...

The ATF went to Waco to serve an arrest warrant, although no ATF agent has ever been able to provide who actually had the warrant in hand at trial or to any congressional committee. Were the 5 family dogs shot before or after attempting to show someone this warrant? How would helicoptors aid in facilitating the peaceful service of a search warrant? And why would you need 76 agents if you're peacefully serving a warrant? Usually (here in Texas) Constables or Marshalls serve warrants, why the ATF? If they weren't planning on peacefully serving the warrant, where's the evidence that Koresh had arms inside (he did, but no evidence was ever provided during inquiries or trials by the ATF, which would have been required to secure the warrant)? Why did they open fire as soon as Koresh opened the door while waving his empty hands and saying "Wait, let's talk, there are women and children in here"?

Yes, Koresh was a loony, but there was an agenda in place for dealing with him already, and it included tanks, APCs, and personnel from Ft. Hood. If you're in charge of a military base, nothing leaves it without your consent. And in my mind, that makes Wesley Clarke a bad person.

Hopefully they will be as impartial through the use of automation, which is where google gets it's impartiality from.

Considering that Google removed Indymedia from its news sources a few months ago, but retains such worthwhile sources as the RIAA, I say that automation does not necessarily lead to impartiality.

>You make it seem as if Americans were robbed of Robotic Al Gore on a shoddy recount or something.

Yea! It is not like the electronic voting machines did something crazy like give Gore a -16,022 vote count and 16,000 votes magically appeared for others...

Ohh wait a second...

Maybe not. But, I have an idea of how good it should be, and we're not there. Don't take offense if it seems to me that you have no idea how bad we have it from just a few short years ago.

Until you've seen the face of a person terrified at the idea of meeting any police, or a person shaking after getting a ticket, or a person afraid to talk to anyone in government, then you should talk.

I can guess by your lack of experience that you're without a permanent tan and haven't been pulled out of line by airport security for having one. Not through any fault of yours, as we are all birthed in our skin by chance. I would submit that freedom isn't a state of being, but a continuous struggle against those who hypocritically only value their own rights while disregarding yours. Freedom isn't very anything. It simply is or isn't happening. It can start or it can stop. The freedom to access a lawyer when your arrest has been categorized as a "terrorist action" has stopped.

We are free. We are very free. You can walk up to the White House and picket it. You can drive your truck with a rifle in the back. You can say what you want on the Internet. You can read the books you want.

Anyone can do any of the things you've mentioned and more. It is simply a matter of the consequences that becomes the deterence to those activities. Even expressing yourself on the internet can be a dangerous proposition. To keep this reply short and educational, I'll simply point you to a source you can learn from.

Even if another terrorist attack occurs, do you think they're going to take these liberties away? No. The government won't. In fact, they can't. Because people like myself speak up and let people like you know what is going on.

You're statement has a naivete that is almost charming. On the other hand, it is also a sad indictment of our public schools' failure to teach history in any meaningful manner. This failure is one the reasons why historical events repeat themselves in such tight, short cycles in the U.S., which is reflected so heavily in our foreign policies.

Our founding fathers knew what they were doing a hell of a lot better than you give them credit for.

I give them all the credit. Many of them are my heroes. Unfortunately, they are dead. The dead cannot defend their dreams. Its up to you and me to defend them at home, so that bad things don't happen to other people.

= 9J =

My tinfoil hat may be on too tight, however:

1. Microsoft Loses Antitrust case.
2. Bush gets into the Whitehouse and expected results of antitrust case become very wattered down.
3. Microsoft employee becomes chief of cyber security for the government - authors 'National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace'.
4. Google is known to have former NSA people on the payroll.
5. Microsoft's 'trusted computing' strategy includes building an all in one DRM gateway.
6. Microsoft goes after Google...

It seems to me that Microsoft is tightening their ties with government in an attempt to influence the upcoming DRM war. What better way to do that than to have an inside man to set internet security policy, to control all access of electronic resources into the home, and to control the most important search portal. There are probably other evidence to support this view - but I don't have the time to 'google' it all for you (kind of ironic, if it wasn't so scary in a 'big brother is watching you' sort of way...)

To paraphrase Frank Herbert, "he who controls the access, controls the universe"

This is House Resolution 2239 which requires a paper trail and bans the use of non-open software.
Here's a story about it: link

...is over here. Despite what some flamers say on here, the many, independent Indymedia chapters have been on the forefront of civil rights battles since IMC was founded in 1998. We're still there, carrying on.

Courtesy of the Seattle Indymedia site.
http://d176.whartonab.swarthmore.edu/
http://d176.whartonab.swarthmore.edu/diebold_inter nalmemos.pdf
http://noisebox.cypherpunks.to/~visible/vote/vote. html
http://www.scifience.net/
http://emdx.org/r.php?U=BBV
http://opium.mine.nu/bbv/
http://centipede.provocation.net/diebold/
http://localh.kicks-ass.org/bbv/
http://d125.wortha.swarthmore.edu/
Source thread on Indymedia if you are interested.

If you don't like the newswires (and they can be pretty noisy) each local site has edited features, which should make note of the better articles in the newswire. Of course, it's all entirely volunteer, so results may vary.

Latin American Indymedia sites have been very active, while mainstream media ignores events there almost entirely. Bolivia and Argentina have been very active covering recent events.

If you don't like the newswires (and they can be pretty noisy) each local site has edited features, which should make note of the better articles in the newswire. Of course, it's all entirely volunteer, so results may vary.

Latin American Indymedia sites have been very active, while mainstream media ignores events there almost entirely. Bolivia and Argentina have been very active covering recent events.

Unfortunately, not even the Senate has the authority to negotiate policy on the FTAA. Why? Because on August 6th 2002 they gave up that right when president Bush signed into law 'Fast Track' trade promotion authority, granting the president the ability to negotiate trade treaties as he sees fit, independant of Congressional input. All Congress gets to do now is vote 'yes' or 'no' on the finalized text of agreements such as the FTAA.

The best action against this corporatization of national policy is to take to the streets. The FTAA's next Ministerial meeting is in Miami on November 20th and 21st. Get some friends in a car, drive there, and make your voice heard by the people making the decisions. Write articles. Put them in your local weeklies and on websites and in flyers and posters and handbills.

The FTAA isn't a national issue because there isn't enough public outcry. There isn't any public outcry because people don't know whats at stake. Educate yourself and others. Support Indymedia.

Folks, fuck the FTAA. Not only do we get fucked as far as IP-rights and other digital concerns go, farmers, trade unionists and other workers across the hemisphere will suffer. The FTAA is essentially an expansion of NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement), which cost thousands of jobs in my region (upper midwest US) alone.

There's some great information out there on NAFTA and the FTAA (even though the FTAA is still mostly secret...); read up on it, and come on down to Miami November 19 and 20 to help us shut down the FTAA ministerial. You've seen photos of activists in Europe fighting the new patent laws; take the stuggle off-line and into the streets! Thousands of folks, from hacktivists to anarchists to teachers to your aunt, are mobilizing for the demonstrations. Join us in Miami and help put a stop to the FTAA and its infringements on rights in most every sphere of life, from agriculture to the internet.

Some resources:

ftaaresistance.org , infoshop.org, autonomen.net/madftaa/miami, tallahassee.indymedia.org.

ZIONAZIS BLOW UP U.S. DIPLOMATIC CONVOY TO REGAIN AMERICAN SYMPATHY - Apparently it was THE JEW who killed the three Americans in Gaza this week.

roy horn of sigfried and roy gets what he deserves - The tiger realised he was a capitalist.

Zionism and Nazism: We Can't Tell The Difference, Can You? - THE JEWS are NAZIS!

Moscow demands Jewish tycoon's extradition - First Russian tycoon was A JEW? whatelse new!

Some cartoons: Israeli bus , Iraqi resistance comics , Iraqi rat trap , Iraqi quagmire , Tel Aviv bust stop

Thank Allah for these links! Allahu Akbar!

ZIONAZIS BLOW UP U.S. DIPLOMATIC CONVOY TO REGAIN AMERICAN SYMPATHY - Apparently it was THE JEW who killed the three Americans in Gaza this week.

roy horn of sigfried and roy gets what he deserves - The tiger realised he was a capitalist.

Zionism and Nazism: We Can't Tell The Difference, Can You? - THE JEWS are NAZIS!

Moscow demands Jewish tycoon's extradition - First Russian tycoon was A JEW? whatelse new!

Some cartoons: Israeli bus , Iraqi resistance comics , Iraqi rat trap , Iraqi quagmire , Tel Aviv bust stop

Thank Allah for these links! Allahu Akbar!

ZIONAZIS BLOW UP U.S. DIPLOMATIC CONVOY TO REGAIN AMERICAN SYMPATHY - Apparently it was THE JEW who killed the three Americans in Gaza this week.

roy horn of sigfried and roy gets what he deserves - The tiger realised he was a capitalist.

Zionism and Nazism: We Can't Tell The Difference, Can You? - THE JEWS are NAZIS!

Moscow demands Jewish tycoon's extradition - First Russian tycoon was A JEW? whatelse new!

Some cartoons: Israeli bus , Iraqi resistance comics , Iraqi rat trap , Iraqi quagmire , Tel Aviv bust stop

Thank Allah for these links! Allahu Akbar!

ZIONAZIS BLOW UP U.S. DIPLOMATIC CONVOY TO REGAIN AMERICAN SYMPATHY - Apparently it was THE JEW who killed the three Americans in Gaza this week.

roy horn of sigfried and roy gets what he deserves - The tiger realised he was a capitalist.

Zionism and Nazism: We Can't Tell The Difference, Can You? - THE JEWS are NAZIS!

Moscow demands Jewish tycoon's extradition - First Russian tycoon was A JEW? whatelse new!

Some cartoons: Israeli bus , Iraqi resistance comics , Iraqi rat trap , Iraqi quagmire , Tel Aviv bust stop

Thank Allah for these links! Allahu Akbar!

ZIONAZIS BLOW UP U.S. DIPLOMATIC CONVOY TO REGAIN AMERICAN SYMPATHY - Apparently it was THE JEW who killed the three Americans in Gaza this week.

roy horn of sigfried and roy gets what he deserves - The tiger realised he was a capitalist.

Zionism and Nazism: We Can't Tell The Difference, Can You? - THE JEWS are NAZIS!

Moscow demands Jewish tycoon's extradition - First Russian tycoon was A JEW? whatelse new!

Some cartoons: Israeli bus , Iraqi resistance comics , Iraqi rat trap , Iraqi quagmire , Tel Aviv bust stop

Thank Allah for these links! Allahu Akbar!

ZIONAZIS BLOW UP U.S. DIPLOMATIC CONVOY TO REGAIN AMERICAN SYMPATHY - Apparently it was THE JEW who killed the three Americans in Gaza this week.

roy horn of sigfried and roy gets what he deserves - The tiger realised he was a capitalist.

Zionism and Nazism: We Can't Tell The Difference, Can You? - THE JEWS are NAZIS!

Moscow demands Jewish tycoon's extradition - First Russian tycoon was A JEW? whatelse new!

Some cartoons: Israeli bus , Iraqi resistance comics , Iraqi rat trap , Iraqi quagmire , Tel Aviv bust stop

Thank Allah for these links! Allahu Akbar!

ZIONAZIS BLOW UP U.S. DIPLOMATIC CONVOY TO REGAIN AMERICAN SYMPATHY - Apparently it was THE JEW who killed the three Americans in Gaza this week.

roy horn of sigfried and roy gets what he deserves - The tiger realised he was a capitalist.

Zionism and Nazism: We Can't Tell The Difference, Can You? - THE JEWS are NAZIS!

Moscow demands Jewish tycoon's extradition - First Russian tycoon was A JEW? whatelse new!

Some cartoons: Israeli bus , Iraqi resistance comics , Iraqi rat trap , Iraqi quagmire , Tel Aviv bust stop

Thank Allah for these links! Allahu Akbar!

ZIONAZIS BLOW UP U.S. DIPLOMATIC CONVOY TO REGAIN AMERICAN SYMPATHY - Apparently it was THE JEW who killed the three Americans in Gaza this week.

roy horn of sigfried and roy gets what he deserves - The tiger realised he was a capitalist.

Zionism and Nazism: We Can't Tell The Difference, Can You? - THE JEWS are NAZIS!

Moscow demands Jewish tycoon's extradition - First Russian tycoon was A JEW? whatelse new!

Some cartoons: Israeli bus , Iraqi resistance comics , Iraqi rat trap , Iraqi quagmire , Tel Aviv bust stop

Thank Allah for these links! Allahu Akbar!

ZIONAZIS BLOW UP U.S. DIPLOMATIC CONVOY TO REGAIN AMERICAN SYMPATHY - Apparently it was THE JEW who killed the three Americans in Gaza this week.

roy horn of sigfried and roy gets what he deserves - The tiger realised he was a capitalist.

Zionism and Nazism: We Can't Tell The Difference, Can You? - THE JEWS are NAZIS!

Moscow demands Jewish tycoon's extradition - First Russian tycoon was A JEW? whatelse new!

Some cartoons: Israeli bus , Iraqi resistance comics , Iraqi rat trap , Iraqi quagmire , Tel Aviv bust stop

Thank Allah for these links! Allahu Akbar!

AC,

From that link I see that some anonymous person called someone else a Nazi on an open posting medium. A flamewar ensued. Film at 11.

Indymedia is the home of intellectual dunces, and mental midgets who believe George W. Bush is equivalent to Hitler, that some right-wing cabal is pulling all the strings, and supporters of cop-killers, terrorists, and murderers.

To make that statment more accurate you'd also have to add something about the people that produce radio pieces on raising awareness about AIDS in the Latino community, photojournalists that record labor struggles, stories about domestic violence, review books on the prison industrial complex, and videos on political hiphop.

It is very easy to pick out posts by trolls and vocal crazies. To say Indymedia is predominantly inhabited by such is not accurate.

AC,

From that link I see that some anonymous person called someone else a Nazi on an open posting medium. A flamewar ensued. Film at 11.

Indymedia is the home of intellectual dunces, and mental midgets who believe George W. Bush is equivalent to Hitler, that some right-wing cabal is pulling all the strings, and supporters of cop-killers, terrorists, and murderers.

To make that statment more accurate you'd also have to add something about the people that produce radio pieces on raising awareness about AIDS in the Latino community, photojournalists that record labor struggles, stories about domestic violence, review books on the prison industrial complex, and videos on political hiphop.

It is very easy to pick out posts by trolls and vocal crazies. To say Indymedia is predominantly inhabited by such is not accurate.

AC,

From that link I see that some anonymous person called someone else a Nazi on an open posting medium. A flamewar ensued. Film at 11.

Indymedia is the home of intellectual dunces, and mental midgets who believe George W. Bush is equivalent to Hitler, that some right-wing cabal is pulling all the strings, and supporters of cop-killers, terrorists, and murderers.

To make that statment more accurate you'd also have to add something about the people that produce radio pieces on raising awareness about AIDS in the Latino community, photojournalists that record labor struggles, stories about domestic violence, review books on the prison industrial complex, and videos on political hiphop.

It is very easy to pick out posts by trolls and vocal crazies. To say Indymedia is predominantly inhabited by such is not accurate.

AC,

From that link I see that some anonymous person called someone else a Nazi on an open posting medium. A flamewar ensued. Film at 11.

Indymedia is the home of intellectual dunces, and mental midgets who believe George W. Bush is equivalent to Hitler, that some right-wing cabal is pulling all the strings, and supporters of cop-killers, terrorists, and murderers.

To make that statment more accurate you'd also have to add something about the people that produce radio pieces on raising awareness about AIDS in the Latino community, photojournalists that record labor struggles, stories about domestic violence, review books on the prison industrial complex, and videos on political hiphop.

It is very easy to pick out posts by trolls and vocal crazies. To say Indymedia is predominantly inhabited by such is not accurate.

AC,

From that link I see that some anonymous person called someone else a Nazi on an open posting medium. A flamewar ensued. Film at 11.

Indymedia is the home of intellectual dunces, and mental midgets who believe George W. Bush is equivalent to Hitler, that some right-wing cabal is pulling all the strings, and supporters of cop-killers, terrorists, and murderers.

To make that statment more accurate you'd also have to add something about the people that produce radio pieces on raising awareness about AIDS in the Latino community, photojournalists that record labor struggles, stories about domestic violence, review books on the prison industrial complex, and videos on political hiphop.

It is very easy to pick out posts by trolls and vocal crazies. To say Indymedia is predominantly inhabited by such is not accurate.

Here's one example of indymedia's shining example of their free speech.

DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

The dynebolic-guys produce a lot of great software for special-purpose use. I, for example, got their bootable CD including MuSE for network audio streaming once, and it just works great. The last time I saw this software used was at an Indymedia station during the demonstrations in Geneve and Evian.

"By All Available Means"

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/17306

Its interesting that Kahane websites are considered terrorist but front groups which funnel money to them are not. See here.

There's got to be more political story behind this.

The more political story is that the world is getting more and more wise to the idea that the current US administration is at the least in bed with Sharon's government in Israel, and at the most is controlled by them. This is well-documented on many reputable media websites such as The Guardian and The Independent, not to mention independent media sites like GNN and Indymedia. The story mentioned in the article describes a plot, hatched by the US and Israel together, to dispel the rumors about the US-Israel connection before they become commonly accepted fact.