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Re:Wow. So Hillary is the entire DoD???
That is just absolutely false. Where on earth did you get the idea that Interpol only tracks people who commit crimes in multiple countries?
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Re:The UK arrest warrant is still valid.
He fled Sweden and the Swedes issued an European arrest warrant. I'm sure if he'd fled the UK they'd have issued one for him. And if he was outside Europe they could issue an Interpol notice.
And actually Interpol have confirmed the existing Interpol red notice is still outstanding, so all the paperwork is in place.
https://www.interpol.int/News-...
Actually no he did not flee Sweden. To Quote Wikipedia: "He was questioned, the case was initially closed, and he was told he could leave the country. In November 2010, however, the case was re-opened by a special prosecutor who said that she wanted to question Assange".
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Re:The UK arrest warrant is still valid.
No, not really. If he'd fled the country instead of to the embassy. (which in many respects is the same thing), then he'd simply be beyond the reach of arrest unless and until he came back. This is pretty elementary; thousands of people have outstanding warrants who have fled the country; and unless the crime rises to a level where its worth pursuing international warrants; and he happens to hide in an extradition treaty country -- then fleeing a country and living in exile has always been something one can get away with for small crimes. The police don't normally spend a lot of time worrying about it.
He fled Sweden and the Swedes issued an european arrest warrant. I'm sure if he'd fled the UK they'd have issued one for him. And if he was outside Europe they could issue an Interpol notice.
And actually Interpol have confirmed the existing Interpol red notice is still outstanding, so all the paperwork is in place.
https://www.interpol.int/News-...
LYON, France - INTERPOL confirms that its Red Notice, or international wanted persons alert, issued for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at Sweden's request in November 2010 remains valid.
Confirmation that Mr Assange's Red Notice status remains in force follows Thursday's decision by authorities in Ecuador to grant asylum to Mr Assange, two months after he took refuge in its London embassy while fighting extradition from the UK to Sweden where authorities want to question him in connection with alleged sexual offences.
A Red Notice status is a request for any country to identify or locate an individual with a view to their provisional arrest and extradition in accordance with the country's national laws.
Many of INTERPOL's member countries consider a Red Notice a valid request for provisional arrest, especially if they are linked to the requesting country via a bilateral extradition treaty. In cases where arrests are made based on a Red Notice, these are made by national police officials in INTERPOL member countries.
INTERPOL cannot compel any of its 190 member countries to arrest the subject of a Red Notice. Any individual wanted for arrest should be considered innocent until proven guilty.
I.e. even if he left the EU he'd still be wanted man. Basically he'd need to flee to a country which would ignore the Interpol notice and refuse to extradite.
Ronnie Biggs for example spent 36 years in Brazil which didn't have an extradition treaty where he made some rather likeable records with the Sex Pistols.
"Ronnie Biggs was doing time until he done a bunk
Now he says he's seen the light and he sold his soul to punkGod save Martin Bormann and Nazis on the run
They wasn't being wicked God that was their idea of fun
God save Myra Hindley God save Ian Brady
Even though he's horrible and she ain't what you call a lady"However collaborating on a good song doesn't buy you immunity from judicial process.
Brazil eventually signed an extradition treaty with the UK but refused to extradite Biggs
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazi...
Brazil had no extradition treaty with the UK before the late 1990s, allowing Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs - who had escaped from Wandsworth Prison in 1965 - to enjoy the sun and sand of Rio for decades. Even if there had been a reciprocal treaty, Brazilian law prohibits the father of a Brazilian child from being extradited. In 1981, Biggs was kidnapped in Rio by a group of former British soldiers working for a security firm and ended up in the Bahamas, where it was hoped the government would extradite him to the UK. The country's high court, however, sent him back to Brazil. In 1997, Brazil and the UK signed a treaty, but Brazil still reject
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Re:And the 1000 sites are?
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Re:Did anyone believe this law would not be abused
I don't think the internet filter laws got passed. I thought the ISPs jumped in and said they would voluntarily use the Interpol Worst of list. I think the compromise seems reasonable. If the list is abused then it can be voluntarily not used. To be on the list you need to host porn of kids that are under 13 and this needs to be verified by multiple member countries.
I'm guessing that this has been implemented as a BGP blackhole list from TFA. An easy way for the ISP to go. They will already be running black lists for things like bogons and performance impact will be low.
The obvious fault with this is that when some kiddie porn domain gets blacklisted the domain becomes useless so the domain admin points their A record at some popular hosting company and takes them off line as well. If your going down take somebody with you.
Being on a black list sucks if there is no way to get off. Many years ago the company I worked for was on a net block that was on an outdated bogon list used by the US military. The military is really bad at keeping things maintained, something gets installed, the person who did it gets posted elsewhere every few years so all knowledge about what, how and why it was done is lost. The military don't update their contact information so even if your email server wasn't black holed you couldn't contact them anyway. Frustrating when there were treaties requiring this communication.
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Why back to Belize?
Hello,
From RTFA'ing, it seems that Guatemala and Belize have no mutual legal assistance treat and are, in fact, engaged in a territorial dispute over their border, so I am wondering why Guatemala would bother sending him back to Belize, as opposed to escorting him to the airport and putting him on the next plane out of the country, wherever that might be. Or Mr. McAfee* could certainly afford a flight back to the United States, Switzerland or pretty much any other place.
Even more strange is the report from CBS News quoting Guatemala's Interior Minister Mauricio Lopez Bonilla that "McAfee was detained by police at a hotel in an upscale Guatemala City neighborhood with the help of Interpol agents" (emphasis mine) as Interpol agents do not have arrest powers. Interpol can request that someone be provisionally arrested in order for them to be extradited, but a search of the Wanted Person's database on their web site reveals that no such "Red Notice" has been issued for John McAfee.
I do hope that Mr. McAfee is treated fairly by the Belizean authorities, and that his concerns of abuse and torture at their hands is simply an irrational fear.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky
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Re:Sexual assault, huh?
...and Interpol, by their rules can only be involved in cases where the crimes take place in multiple countries (unlike here) and the crime would have a punishment involving jail time (unlike here).
Who told you this drivel? An Assange support site?
From the Interpol web site:
INTERPOL does not issue arrest warrants. A member country may request the INTERPOL General Secretariat to issue a "Red Notice" (an international alert for a wanted person) on the basis of a valid national arrest warrant.
(emphasis mine)
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INTERPOL Notices are international alerts allowing police in member countries to share critical crime-related information.
Notices are published by INTERPOL's General Secretariat at the request of National Central Bureaus (NCBs) and authorized entities, and can be published in any of the Organization's official languages: Arabic, English, French and Spanish.
In the case of Red Notices, the persons concerned are wanted by national jurisdictions and the notices requested are based on an arrest warrant or court decision. INTERPOL's role is to assist the national police forces in identifying and locating these persons with a view to their arrest and extradition.
As for the sentencing for the sex crimes which Assange are wanted for, the maximum sentencing is indeed several years in prison. But that's beside the point - a member country could put out an Interpol Red Notice on you for any crime, except pertaining to those protected by international human rights (like race, gender, color, nationality, religion or political viewpoints). Assange is wanted for a sex crime, so neither applies.
There are people on the Interpol Red Notice list for theft and hooliganism, and there's even a category for "ROAD TRAFFIC RELATED OFFENCE".
Compared to that, yes, sexual crimes rate high.Go look up things and don't just blindly accept what the Assange support sites tell you.
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Re:Sexual assault, huh?
...and Interpol, by their rules can only be involved in cases where the crimes take place in multiple countries (unlike here) and the crime would have a punishment involving jail time (unlike here).
Who told you this drivel? An Assange support site?
From the Interpol web site:
INTERPOL does not issue arrest warrants. A member country may request the INTERPOL General Secretariat to issue a "Red Notice" (an international alert for a wanted person) on the basis of a valid national arrest warrant.
(emphasis mine)
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INTERPOL Notices are international alerts allowing police in member countries to share critical crime-related information.
Notices are published by INTERPOL's General Secretariat at the request of National Central Bureaus (NCBs) and authorized entities, and can be published in any of the Organization's official languages: Arabic, English, French and Spanish.
In the case of Red Notices, the persons concerned are wanted by national jurisdictions and the notices requested are based on an arrest warrant or court decision. INTERPOL's role is to assist the national police forces in identifying and locating these persons with a view to their arrest and extradition.
As for the sentencing for the sex crimes which Assange are wanted for, the maximum sentencing is indeed several years in prison. But that's beside the point - a member country could put out an Interpol Red Notice on you for any crime, except pertaining to those protected by international human rights (like race, gender, color, nationality, religion or political viewpoints). Assange is wanted for a sex crime, so neither applies.
There are people on the Interpol Red Notice list for theft and hooliganism, and there's even a category for "ROAD TRAFFIC RELATED OFFENCE".
Compared to that, yes, sexual crimes rate high.Go look up things and don't just blindly accept what the Assange support sites tell you.
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Re:Being a Brazilian I say ...
Today in the news, Brazil made Canadian Headlines by an announcement of major criminal charges against politicians, and friends. Bribes in the millions of dollars and scandals. Almost 50% of the opposition politicians were part of the corruption charges. More news at 11pm.
This is NOT news.... NEWS will be when they:
1) will be in jail
2) Recover the moneyPeople really do not know how things are in 'developing' countries...
One of our 'leaders' is wanted by interpol [1] and is only wanted because the US caught him laundering BIG money. IF was in Brazil he will be innocent and will earn money for defamation.and It is very friend of our last 'great' 'populist' Lula [2]
1 - http://www.interpol.int/Wanted-Persons/(wanted_id)/2009-13608
2 - http://g1.globo.com/sao-paulo/noticia/2012/06/maluf-oficializa-apoio-ao-pt-em-sp-em-encontro-com-lula-e-haddad.htmlAgain I know it is 'fancy' and 'intellectual' bash US but they are still the less evil
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Re:Hopefully...
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Re:I have mixed feelings about this...
USA can be a harsh capitalism country, but it's still a Lawful State.
(perhaps too lawful - but this is another argument).
I just can't see a former USA President making public arrangements with people charged with some felony and wanted by the Interpol.
http://www.interpol.int/Wanted-Persons/(wanted_id)/2009-13608
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This is a violation of Interpol's constitution.
Interpol's constitution states:
"in order to ensure the widest possible cooperation between the police authorities of its member States, it is strictly forbidden for organization to undertake any intervention or activities of a political, military, religious or racial character."
http://www.interpol.int/About-INTERPOL/Legal-materials/The-ConstitutionHow the hell did this get through Interpol's bureaucracy?
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Interpol Values
Values:
With such a diverse group of men and women, the organization's values play a particularly important role in maintaining a harmonious and effective working environment. The INTERPOL General Secretariat defines its values through the following qualities:
Respect for human rights
Integrity
Commitment to quality
Availability
Team spirit
Value for money
AccountabilitySource: http://www.interpol.int/Recruitment [interpol.int]
Action is taken within the limits of existing laws in different countries and in the spirit of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Source: http://www.interpol.int/About-INTERPOL/Overview [interpol.int]
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Interpol Values
Values:
With such a diverse group of men and women, the organization's values play a particularly important role in maintaining a harmonious and effective working environment. The INTERPOL General Secretariat defines its values through the following qualities:
Respect for human rights
Integrity
Commitment to quality
Availability
Team spirit
Value for money
AccountabilitySource: http://www.interpol.int/Recruitment [interpol.int]
Action is taken within the limits of existing laws in different countries and in the spirit of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Source: http://www.interpol.int/About-INTERPOL/Overview [interpol.int]
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Interpol Values
Values:
With such a diverse group of men and women, the organization's values play a particularly important role in maintaining a harmonious and effective working environment. The INTERPOL General Secretariat defines its values through the following qualities:
Respect for human rights
Integrity
Commitment to quality
Availability
Team spirit
Value for money
AccountabilitySource: http://www.interpol.int/Recruitment
Action is taken within the limits of existing laws in different countries and in the spirit of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
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Interpol Values
Values:
With such a diverse group of men and women, the organization's values play a particularly important role in maintaining a harmonious and effective working environment. The INTERPOL General Secretariat defines its values through the following qualities:
Respect for human rights
Integrity
Commitment to quality
Availability
Team spirit
Value for money
AccountabilitySource: http://www.interpol.int/Recruitment
Action is taken within the limits of existing laws in different countries and in the spirit of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
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Re:Why does Interpol even acknowledge this?!
What is even worse is that Interpol acknowledges blasphemy as a crime.
According to article 3 of Interpol's own constitution, they are explicitly forbidden to engage in matters of religious character. So either they were deceived about the nature of the "crime" or they ignored their own principles.
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Re:and where is exactly the problem?
True as that may be, what the hell was Interpol doing passing on the arrest note? Don't they at least bother to look at what it's actually for?
Like the article says, it's against Interpol rules to be involved in something like this.
Article 3
It is strictly forbidden for the Organization to undertake any intervention or activities of a political,
military, religious or racial character.The proper thing would be to not extradite him. What will actually happen is he well be extradited because of (pre-election) politics and he stands a reasonably high chance of being executed.
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Re:and where is exactly the problem?
According to the article, the tweet in question was a reference to the Prophet Muhammud. In some parts of the word, disavowing the religion of the majority (apostasy) can be punishable by death. Interpol's compliance in this act violates the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which Interpol itself is tasked with upholding by its constitution.
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Please mod parent up..This is the database in question.
The Database is maintained by Interpol, and is available to any ISP upon request, not just in Australia.
All Interpol member countries have given this project a green light and like "The Cube" is saying above, it is very strict in what constitutes a "Child Porn", i.e. age of 13, and the images have to show abuse.
The ICPO database in already implemented in a lot of countries, they have just done it without telling anyone, so only those that are actively seeking Child porn on the Internet are aware of the blocking.
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Re:Please: NO POLITICAL POSTURING.
The people who died that day were liberal and conservative, but all were American.
Do American's ever pass up an opportunity to look like an ignorant asshat?
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Re:Why does he fear Sweden will send him to US?
The european arrest warrant specifies that he is wanted on suspicion of: "Rape (less serious crime), unlawful coercion, and two cases of sexual molestation."
The first of those - "Rape (less serious crime)" - carries a 2-4 year penalty; Unlawful coercion carries a sentence of up to 2 years; (Source); Sexual molestation carries with it a penalty of a fine or imprisonment of up to 2 years. (Source)
Of course, the investigation may find no basis to proceed with the prosecution, and he'll be released and charges dropped. But implying that he's being made the subject of an international manhunt for a crime that, at its worst, carries a couple hundred dollars fine, is simply not the case. We know what they want him arrested on suspicion of, and it does carry fairly significant penalties, unless you consider a couple years of your life to be peanuts.
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Re:Rape allegations
Interpol can only be activated against individuals that are international criminals - their crimes spawn country boundaries.
Assange is a citizen of Australia. He went to Sweden. While in Sweden he allegedly committed acts against two citizens of Sweden that could be criminal acts. The citizens of Sweden complained to the Swedish police. The possible criminal acts were brought to the attention of the Swedish prosecutors who had some disagreements about how serious this matter was, and various legal actions took place. While the Swedish prosecutors were sorting things out, Assange - citizen of Australia who was only visiting Sweden, left Sweden for the UK. Eventually the Swedish prosecutors got things sorted out, and had a warrant from a Swedish court to detain Assange on, "probable cause suspected of rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion". Assange lost an appeal to the Swedish Supreme Court, so the warrant continued in effect, and the Interpol notice was made since Assange was no longer in Sweden, and refused to return. He is currently in the UK, under "house arrest", and fighting extradition back to Sweden.
In short: Assange is from country A, allegedly committed a crime in country S, and left for country B before the issue was settled in country S. That leaves him an international fugitive from justice. Interpol deals with that.
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Interpol efficiency
Interistingly, Interpol has this guy on their page for two years: Paulo Maluf.
On his twitter : twitter.com/paulosalimmaluf he not only talks about his whereabouts, but also gives a contact phone number!
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Re:Sorry, no "dirty tricks" campaign here...
then they charge him again, send out a warrent of the highest possible order for his arrest, for something they would never do that for if it was anyone else,
If you browse the list of people wanted by Interpol, you'll see quite a few red notices issued for sex crimes.
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Re:Sorry, no "dirty tricks" campaign here...
Why is a red notice odd in this case? It simply means they want him extradited. There are two types of red notices, those for people already convicted and those for people wanted for a trail (possibly just as a witness). The notice for for Assange is of the latter type. It's a 'red' notice because they extradited to Sweden, the other colors are reserved for information requests and missing persons. The types of notices are publicly documented as well.
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Re:Sorry, no "dirty tricks" campaign here...
Interpol didn't give him the highest possible priority, the just put him on their wanted list. He is by no means on top of that list, he is just there amongst ~160 others. That list is publicly available. That what interpol does when a participation police force sends a request, nothing more, nothing less. The media made him the number one person on the list. He also isn't convicted, just wanted. And as the interpol site states he "should be considered innocent until proven guilty."
Assange also went to Scotland Yard himself, so it's not like they went on a big hunt to track him down. It's again only a big show in the media, not anywhere else.
The next thing will be for the UK to decide whether they will send him to Sweden, before they do they will check whether the charges against him make sense and whether he can expect a decent trial. Once they've done that he will be send to Sweden and be heard by the policy first. After hearing both parties in the case they might still decide not to pursue it any further, but even when they do he will get a proper trial in Sweden and if he didn't do anything wrong he doesn't have much to fear. -
Re:Sorry, no "dirty tricks" campaign here...
Interpol didn't give him the highest possible priority, the just put him on their wanted list. He is by no means on top of that list, he is just there amongst ~160 others. That list is publicly available. That what interpol does when a participation police force sends a request, nothing more, nothing less. The media made him the number one person on the list. He also isn't convicted, just wanted. And as the interpol site states he "should be considered innocent until proven guilty."
Assange also went to Scotland Yard himself, so it's not like they went on a big hunt to track him down. It's again only a big show in the media, not anywhere else.
The next thing will be for the UK to decide whether they will send him to Sweden, before they do they will check whether the charges against him make sense and whether he can expect a decent trial. Once they've done that he will be send to Sweden and be heard by the policy first. After hearing both parties in the case they might still decide not to pursue it any further, but even when they do he will get a proper trial in Sweden and if he didn't do anything wrong he doesn't have much to fear. -
Re:LIttle comfort
And actually, these are very desirable genes, since they apparently also make you a world class football player, basketball player, soccer star, or golfer!
Or earn you a place on an Interpol wanted list.
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Re:Interpol alert rescinded?
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Re:Interpol alert rescinded?
If it has been lifted, Interpol hasn't updated their site yet:
http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2010/86/2010_52486.asp
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Re:He should hide out in Brazil
Brazil could be a good place for him to hide out at the moment - they have currently have a Federal Congressman who is wanted by Interpol for financial crimes.
No it couldn't, congressman Maluf cannot be arrested because he have congressional immunity, that doesn't applies to Assange.
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Re:Interpol does... what?
Maybe I don't get your point, but:
http://www.interpol.int/public/wanted/default.asp"A distinction is drawn between two types of red notice: the first type is based on an arrest warrant and is issued for a person wanted for prosecution; the second type is based on a court decision for a person wanted to serve a sentence."
http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2010/86/2010_52486.asp
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Re:Interpol does... what?
Maybe I don't get your point, but:
http://www.interpol.int/public/wanted/default.asp"A distinction is drawn between two types of red notice: the first type is based on an arrest warrant and is issued for a person wanted for prosecution; the second type is based on a court decision for a person wanted to serve a sentence."
http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2010/86/2010_52486.asp
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He should hide out in Brazil
Brazil could be a good place for him to hide out at the moment - they have currently have a Federal Congressman who is wanted by Interpol for financial crimes.
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Re:Out of curiousity...
Pretty often. INTERPOL is the default tool for apprehending any fugitives believed to reside abroad. INTERPOL Red Notice does not make any one guilty any more than a normal arrest notice. It even reads on their webpage:
Warning
The person should be considered innocent until proven guilty.
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ContextThe context of the statement
In short, INTERPOL is ideally positioned to represent law enforcement interests in developing global information security standards, as well as to assist in the implementation of such standards across its membership, including by developing specific standards for the police community.
But as you all know, even with the best standards in place, security incidents can always happen.
Just recently INTERPOL’s Information Security Incident Response Team discovered two Facebook profiles attempting to assume my identity as INTERPOL’s Secretary General. One of the impersonators was using this profile to try to obtain information on fugitives targeted during our recent Operation Infra Red. This Operation was bringing investigators from 29 member countries at the INTERPOL General Secretariat to exchange information on international fugitives and lead to more than 130 arrests in 32 countries.
This is why we constantly need to share our experience. INTERPOL’s Information Security Incident Response Team is a member of the Forum of Incident Response and Security Teams –– or FIRST ––, which I assume most of you know. Being a member of the FIRST enables INTERPOL to learn from the experience of other members and to share our own experiences for the benefit of others. But again, it is also a way to draw bridges between the police community and information security professionals from the private and public sectors worldwide.Also note that the actual statement says the impersonator was trying to gather sensative data, not quite the success as implied in the summary. The whole speech is available as a pdf here.
I don't know about the rest of you but one of the original reasons I grabbed a Facebook account was to prevent just that kind of thing happening - the same reason I've registered the most obvious forms of my name in as many social networking and emailing services as possible - if I hold the accounts then I possess some control over other people's ability to misrepresent themselves as me. -
Re:And so it begins
According to Interpol it is pretty much what I would consider rape. "Section 1 of the Swedish Penal Code 'A person who, by violence or threat involving or appearing to the threatened person as imminent danger, forces the latter to have sexual intercourse or to engage in a comparable sexual act, shall be sentenced for rape to imprisonment for at least two and at most six years. Rendering the person unconscious or otherwise placing the person in a similarly helpless state shall be regarded as equivalent to violence.'" Unless people consider rape to be something other than non-consensual sex, in which case I admit to being wrong, and I am kind of curious to see what you consider rape to be.
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Re:So essentially...
Hmm. Seems to me that some mods are modding "disagree." I don't see how this is a "troll" at all.
That said, shortly after Obama was inaugurated, Interpol listed 81 international terrorists with intent to attack Saudi Arabia. Seems like the greatest reason we were being attacked may be because the Bush family was friends with the Saudi royal family, and we were very, very loyal about protecting them, even to the threat of our homeland.
It also tells me that we make an easier, more productive target than the House of Ibn Saud. The best answer to the question of why we get targeted is the simple one. We're more convenient, and we don't live in a fortress. That and the President of the United States actually cares and looks bad when his people suffer, a curse the King of Saudi Arabia doesn't seem to have to live with.
So I would be very careful about making assumptions about who claims to be our friend and the invitations they send us. We're being used. This is exactly the kind of personal, family legacy war Kings would get into before we abolished them here in the U.S. because we were sick of all the stupid pointless warring.
All that needs to be done is to point the bastards at their proper target, and let the chickens come to roost at the House of Ibn Saud, so we don't have to tend his bitter flock. After we get ourselves off oil dependency first, of course.
I don't think left and right matter here. I think we just need to find a way forward that doesn't necessitate we become an authoritarian police state fighting an endless war like Oceania in 1984.
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Re:Snopes says this is an exageration as does NYTiUnfortunately, it's not blindingly obvious that they only have immunity from having their records seized. 2(b) (which they gained protection from under Reagan) says:
(b) International organizations, their property and their assets, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall enjoy the same immunity from suit and every form of Judicial process as is enjoyed by foreign governments, except to the extent that such organizations may expressly waive their immunity for the purpose of any proceedings or by the terms of any contract.
Notice, the act protects the organization, as well as the property and assets, "from suit and every form of Judicial process". Now, as others have pointed out, it looks as though INTERPOL doesn't have any agents in the U.S. The only people stationed in the U.S. associated with INTERPOL are American law enforcement. But that doesn't mean that this will never be an issue. INTERPOL has a huge government bureaucracy, which can be seen here. How much immunity the people that constitute this bureaucracy have is a legitimate question, is it not? Again, this isn't about records, because the plain language of the act doesn't limit itself to the organization's records or assets.
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Re:Damn are you doing this on purpose?
There's a difference between putting policeman A in contact with policeman B, and providing policeman A with data from a privately held database. That's my point, and the point that the other poster is apparently too dense to understand. They do more than just "coordination".
You can read up on it at Interpol's web site, or read a brief here:
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Re:Should have RTFA
If an agent of INTERPOL is "just doing his job" then he can do whatever he wants. Fortunately for us INTERPOL is very limited in what it can do. INTERPOL's constitution is very clear as Article 3 states: It is strictly forbidden for the Organization to undertake any intervention or activities of a political, military, religious or racial character. http://www.interpol.int/public/icpo/legalmaterials/constitution/constitutiongenreg/constitution.asp [interpol.int]
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Re:No, it's not full diplomatic immunity
By full immunity, I meant they have attained some form of immunity in all six categories of diplomatic immunity.
So by "full" immunity, you meant "partial" immunity in some categories.
Yeah, that's not bullshit. It's blatant bullshit.
Huh, I guess they don't maintained databases of criminals, child abusers, ensure secure communications between police agencies, help track down fugitives, assume crisis management of developing situations, or police training.
Yes, they're an information coordinator. They don't actually track down fugitives, they pass information from one nation's police force to another so that they can track down fugitives. They assist communication between police agencies. Yes. That's all they do.
Any actual investigation or arrest performed by a law enforcement agent, even if that agent is assigned as a representative to INTERPOL (i.e. has the privileges mentioned), would not be protected because it would not be official INTERPOL business. INTERPOL does not have that authority.
Do you even know what you're talking about, or do you just parrot what you read in other comments?
Why don't you learn WTF you're talking about, eh? Notice how even their INTERPOL Response Teams (under Operational police support services) only deals with providing information and advice? Not actual law enforcement activity?
Get a clue.
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Re:No, it's not full diplomatic immunity
By full immunity, I meant they have attained some form of immunity in all six categories of diplomatic immunity.
So by "full" immunity, you meant "partial" immunity in some categories.
Yeah, that's not bullshit. It's blatant bullshit.
Huh, I guess they don't maintained databases of criminals, child abusers, ensure secure communications between police agencies, help track down fugitives, assume crisis management of developing situations, or police training.
Yes, they're an information coordinator. They don't actually track down fugitives, they pass information from one nation's police force to another so that they can track down fugitives. They assist communication between police agencies. Yes. That's all they do.
Any actual investigation or arrest performed by a law enforcement agent, even if that agent is assigned as a representative to INTERPOL (i.e. has the privileges mentioned), would not be protected because it would not be official INTERPOL business. INTERPOL does not have that authority.
Do you even know what you're talking about, or do you just parrot what you read in other comments?
Why don't you learn WTF you're talking about, eh? Notice how even their INTERPOL Response Teams (under Operational police support services) only deals with providing information and advice? Not actual law enforcement activity?
Get a clue.
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Re:Snopes says this is an exageration as does NYTiINTERPOL also has law enforcement agents:
Each INTERPOL member country maintains a National Central Bureau staffed by national law enforcement officers. The NCB is the designated contact point for the General Secretariat, regional offices and other member countries requiring assistance with overseas investigations and the location and apprehension of fugitives.
If these agents work for INTERPOL, doesn't this order (and it doesn't really matter whether it was Reagan or Obama who authorized it) give those INTERPOL members immunity?
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Should have RTFA
This modification specifically allows INTERPOL the ability to enter into contracts, own and dispose property and has some ancillary language regarding taxes and immigration.
The real provision that is possibly dangerous is Section 7. (b) Representatives of foreign governments in or to international organizations and officers and employees of such organizations shall be immune from suit and legal process relating to acts performed by them in their official capacity
... http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/International_Organizations_Immunities_Act#Title_IIf an agent of INTERPOL is "just doing his job" then he can do whatever he wants. Fortunately for us INTERPOL is very limited in what it can do.
INTERPOL's constitution is very clear as Article 3 states: It is strictly forbidden for the Organization to undertake any intervention or activities of a political, military, religious or racial character. http://www.interpol.int/public/icpo/legalmaterials/constitution/constitutiongenreg/constitution.asp
Thus, we are safe from the administration asking INTERPOL to conduct operations on US soil. If that charter were to change though... it would be a different story.
Also, Obama's actions have had no change on their status in this regard. They have always had this status.
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Re:How's this different from embassies?
Interpol however, is an Organization of international police officers, and from time to time we've observed that police officers get corrupted. They've essentially granted a Gestapo Force in the States that is not directly controlled by the countries own government.
Except they don't have police officers, they have desk people who work to help each country police by sharing information and requesting assistance. They don't actually do anything directly.
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Re:Misleading title
So Afghan, Pakistani, Saudi, and Yemeni INTERPOL agents are now allowed to carry weapons and explosives into the US with impunity? Am I the only one who sees a problem with this?
What's the difference between US Interpol agent and Afghan, pakistani, Saudi, and Yemeni Interpol agent? Do they more likely to become rogue? Do you have any proof? number? statistic? anything?
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Re:Misleading title
So Afghan, Pakistani, Saudi, and Yemeni INTERPOL agents are now allowed to carry weapons and explosives into the US with impunity? Am I the only one who sees a problem with this?
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Fundining terrorism by pirating goods not new...
...and Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey isn't the first to draw a connection. INTERPOL (The International Criminal Police Organization) has identified potential links between IP crime and the financing of terrorist activities:
Many terrorist groups engage in a variety of organized crimes to fund their activities. As terrorist groups tend to act in similar ways to transnational organized crime groups, it is important to carefully monitor how their activities evolve. There is general agreement that IP crime is a high-profit, low-risk crime, which inevitably motivates criminals to engage in this type of activity. It is clear paramilitary terrorist organizations have traded in counterfeit and pirated goods to maintain their organizations and fund their activities. In light of this, INTERPOL remains concerned about the possibility that some other terrorist groups would seize the opportunity to finance their activities through IP crime.
It is an issue that needs to be carefully monitored, and evidence of terrorist groups actually engaging in IP crime must be collected in a systematic fashion, if and when it surfaces.A 2004 report by the Union des Fabricants also highlighted the links between counterfeiting and terrorism. One excerpt reads:
According to R.E. Kendal, former General Secretary of Interpol, the connections with organised crime are increasingly obvious. He has written that counterfeiting is a fully-fledged criminal activity that is not on the periphery of other criminal activities but, instead, at their very heart. Similarly, Christophe Zimmerman, a French expert advising the European Commission, has quoted an unusual example: fake boxes of Vaseline, a product used to make certain explosives, were intercepted at the Danish border, having originated from Dubai; the head of the network was a known member of Al Qaeda. According to Chris Merchant from the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry, the IFPI "has proof of links between terrorism and counterfeiting and industrial piracy". In Northern Ireland, nine arrested terrorists had financed their activities through industrial piracy. In Latin America, links have been established between Middle Eastern terrorist groups and industrial piracy networks. More recently, Islamic terrorist groups in Southeast Asia and the Philippines have used industrial piracy to finance their operations with Al Qaeda. There is nothing new about this phenomenon. As far back as 1992, Muslim fundamentalist groups were suspected of being connected with trafficking in contraband goods and counterfeiting designer products, watches and perfume. In 1993, the police arrested the owner of an import-export company in Paris, whose offices were being used as a base by an Islamic association. A stock of fake designer shirts was also found there. In November 2003, a counterfeiting network between France and Italy was dismantled and thirteen members of the Hijdra Oua Etakfir phalange were arrested. They are suspected of having supplied arms and false papers to Algerian terrorists via a network financed by counterfeiting clothes.
The assertion that "[c]riminal syndicates, and in some cases even terrorist groups, view IP crime as a lucrative business, and see it as a low-risk way to fund other activities" doesn't seem to be lie given the findings of others. It hardly seems necessary to make extensive references in a public speech given at the Tech Museum of Innovation when identifying supporting finding is easy to do. The speeches given by government officials are boring enough already without turning them into oral treatises to avoid being accused of telling lies.