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Fuck terrorism, or rather Islam. It's written goal is world-dominance.
http://jihadwatch.org/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018134.php

Religion of peace? They are creating a massive sleeper cell all over the US.

Fuck terrorism, or rather Islam. It's written goal is world-dominance.
http://jihadwatch.org/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018134.php

Religion of peace? They are creating a massive sleeper cell all over the US.

Oh really? Proof? Maybe you ought to report that to someone if you have information of a national security nature. Or are you just using vague scare tactics to push policy?

Well, first there's Beslan.

Proof? I have no more proof than the alarmists had on 9-10-01. I do have my reasons for concern, however:
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(of course, consider the sources as always!)

I've been looking for this type of thing since Beslan. Glenn Beck is reporting on it all week. Not that I expect you to be a Glenn Beck fan or anything, but his points on this are valid, if a bit alarmist.

Really? Hell to pay? Voluntary resignations and the firing/court martials of low level NCOs is hardly hell being paid. Maybe if someone responsible for OKing various abuses were ever charged, or [gasp] impeached then your sentiment would be comforting. From what we have seen thus far, a wrist slap is the most anyone has gotten. Case in point: although the FISA court was the ONLY legal way to tap certain international calls it was sidestepped completely by this administration. In total defiance of the law. Name one conviction of someone involved in ordering or executing those wiretaps without going through FISA. Zero accountability. It matters not whether the President, his legal council, or anyone other than SCOTUS thought the law should be different. It was defined, it was breached as defined, not one bit of accountability.

There is something more powerful than SCOTUS, POTUS and even COTUS (Congress). It's the Press. I linked to the Clinton trying to abuse political opponents by using their FBI files against them and they got caught. Just like if a Prez tries to use a wire tap against a political opponent for political or other nefarious purposes will also be caught and tried in the court of public opinion, much like we are doing here.

Nice play at taqiyya. It is the very core of Islam to spread its ideology through any means necessary, as dictated by it's "prophet".

If you want to really learn what Islam teaches, don't waste your time listening to the appologists for the religion. Research the issue yourself. Read the Koran. Yes thats right, the Koran.

Google some of the more unspoken terms like, taqiyya, Dhimmi, Dawa. Understand the meaning of prayer of Salat one of the five pillars of Islam.

"Righteousness is not turning your faces towards the east or the west. Righteous are those who believe in GOD, the Last Day, the angels, the scripture, and the prophets; "

Know that this prayer recognizes that:

"The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.'" Bukhari Vol. 4, Book 52, Num. 177 also 179 and 180.

That by religious obligation, every Muslim must be an anti-Semite and hate the Jews.

For more information, go check out Jihad Watch Urban Infidel, or Little Green Footballs

I'm not one to drink the neocon Kool-Aid, but your post is kind of ridiculous. Modern Iran is not the Persia of Cyrus the Great, emancipating Jews, building roads, and encouraging humanitarianism. American culture heralded the ideal that government should fear its citizens and that all men are created equal. Look at us now, and that's only been 200 years! The Persia you're talking about was 2500 years ago!

Yes, the Avesta says exactly what you say that it says. Do you know how many Zoroastrians are left in Iran? A little over 20,000-- half the number that were there before the Islamic Revolution. Why? Because they're being persecuted by the government, since, in the words of one of Khomeini's aides: "[Non-Muslims] cannot be called human beings but are animals who roam the earth and engage in corruption." (Source: "Zoroastrian Lawmaker Faces Slander Charges" http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009 215.php)

Finally, Iran does not need to fight an overt war of aggression, because we (the US) are a bunch of idiots who are accomplishing their goals in the region for them. By completely destabilizing Iraq and Afghanistan we've created a power vacuum that will give Iran's radical beliefs a place to spread, whereas before Saddam (Sunni) and The Taliban (Sunni) provided a natural foil for Iranian hegemony. They don't need a declaration of war when they can just train insurgents and send them into Iraq with supplies for their friends. They don't need a declaration of war when they can use their puppet Hezbollah to murder Iranian civilians.

It's a wonder to me how your post is modded +5 Insightful when it says nothing at all about Iran as it exists now, which is under a dictatorial regime who like saber-rattling at every opportunity about how Israel must be destroyed to pave the way for the 12th Imam. It's nothing personal, but I don't see how your post can be anything other than grossly misinformed, or a troll.

All of that said, I don't think we need to do anything. If wrecking two middle eastern countries didn't do us any good, wrecking a third one won't either. The PEOPLE of Iran are basically good, and want to be free as much as anyone else does. These aren't ignorant yak herders. Iran has several modern, cosmopolitan cities, as well as their fair share of intellectuals, artists, and dreamers. They are simply set upon by their own government, and that's a situation that can't last forever. I figure if we give it time the people of Iran will do just fine for themselves, and maybe this time the US and Britain will stay the hell out of it.

I was hoping you would look up details on this guy, but here it is for you all laid out. note CAIR. What kind of group is CAIR? well they were bad enough that barbra boxer (who is hardly a supporter of the war) decided to return an award from them recently http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014984.php

note the suspected terrorist ties part. this guy is a member of that group. I dont know if you are black or muslim, but he is also close to nation of islam and according to them everyone is not human. Louis Farrakhan has stated that "White people are potential humans...they haven't evolved yet." (Philadelphia Inquirer, 3/18/00).

I like this one from malcom X in playboy though. BTW im not american or white. I'm an asian buddhist, i wonder, are you black? muslim? i hope they spare you. I hope you arent jewish. First they came for the jews..

"PLAYBOY: If Muslims ultimately gain control as you predict, what do you plan to do with white people?

MALCOLM X: It's not a case of what would we do, it's a case of what would God do with whites. What does a judge do with the guilty? Either the guilty one repents and atones, or God executes judgment.

"

from : http://anklebitingpundits.com/abp_forum//viewtopic .php?t=4535
"Keith Ellison

"CAIR's Congressman"

Ellison attended the University of Minnesota, along with future CAIR heads Nihad Awad and Ibrahim Hooper, just prior to Awad and Hooper taking leadership positions with the Minnesota-based Bosnian Relief Committee. While at the university, Ellison became involved with the Nation of Islam (NOI), the organization led by notorious anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan. He kept this involvement in NOI for a period of ten years, participating in rallies, including the Million Man March hate fest; defending hate speech; and using such aliases as Keith Hakim, Keith X Ellison and Keith Ellison-Muhammad. (Scott Johnson, Power Line, 'KEITH ELLISON FOR DUMMIES,' September 30, 2006)

Amidst Ellison's run for Minnesota's 5th District Congressional seat, in 2006, he accepted tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions raised during CAIR-sponsored events, including secret CAIR fundraisers held out of state in Florida. As well, he accepted thousands of dollars in contributions from CAIR leaders themselves, including contributions from CAIR's Executive Director Nihad Awad (Nehad Hammad) and CAIR's Chairman Parvez Ahmed. (Federal Election Commission, 'Individuals Who Gave To: ELLISON, KEITH MAURICE,' November 2006 Congressional election) "

Obama is the 2008 howard dean. His scream moment will come. I suspect it will be his ties to radicals.

FYI the folks "we" (by this i mean the non muslim world) are fighting is islam. islam is not a religion it is a manifestation of fascism. There is no moderate islam since there has been no reformation movement. Religions do not dictate interest rates on loans or have detiled political systems (the caliphate). The iraq war is incredibly succesful in one regard and that is sunnis and shites hate each other even more. The kind of killing they are engaged in generates extreme hatred that lingers in a population's social memory. They are so blood thirsty that presented with the opportunity they slaughter each other. Everyone fighter they kill among themselves is one less person who will come to kill me. Its like the japanese fighting the germans for us in WWII.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011685.php

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004628.php

The Arabs are second class citizens who have very little control over their lives and the religious nuts deserve everything they get (especially for wearing those black dresses and beards which stink like crazy)

The Arabs are second class citizens who have very little control over their lives and the religious nuts deserve everything they get (especially for wearing those black dresses and beards which stink like crazy)

The Arabs are second class citizens who have very little control over their lives and the religious nuts deserve everything they get (especially for wearing those black dresses and beards which stink like crazy)

The Arabs are second class citizens who have very little control over their lives and the religious nuts deserve everything they get (especially for wearing those black dresses and beards which stink like crazy)

The Arabs are second class citizens who have very little control over their lives and the religious nuts deserve everything they get (especially for wearing those black dresses and beards which stink like crazy)

The Arabs are second class citizens who have very little control over their lives and the religious nuts deserve everything they get (especially for wearing those black dresses and beards which stink like crazy)

The Arabs are second class citizens who have very little control over their lives and the religious nuts deserve everything they get (especially for wearing those black dresses and beards which stink like crazy)

The Arabs are second class citizens who have very little control over their lives and the religious nuts deserve everything they get (especially for wearing those black dresses and beards which stink like crazy)

I don't know if they were ever prosecuted. Probably not. Something similiar was done in the UK, and incitements of violence and genocide were plentiful.

What's tolerated and what's not tolerated often depends on what ethnic group or religion you belong to.

Life under Taliban cuts two ways Consider the following list of edicts issued by Taliban religious scholars in Kabul in December 1996:

"To prevent music.... In shops, hotels, vehicles, and rickshaws, cassettes and music are prohibited."

"To prevent beard shaving and its cutting. After one and a half months, if anyone [is] observed who has shaved and or cut his beard, they should be arrested and imprisoned until their beard is bushy."

"To prevent kite-flying."

"To prevent idolatry. In vehicles, shops, hotels, rooms, and any other place, pictures [and] portraits should be abolished."

"To prevent washing cloth by young ladies along the water streams in the city. Violator ladies should be picked up with respectful Islamic manner, taken to their houses, and their husbands severely punished."

The struggle over sharia Is sharia harsh?
Followed literally, it can be medieval. Sharia divides all human actions into five categories: obligatory, meritorious, permissible, reprehensible, and forbidden. Among the reprehensible and forbidden acts are drinking alcohol, eating pork, theft, slander, highway robbery, murder, adultery, and losing one's faith. Traditional punishments include whipping and the amputation of limbs. For the most severe crimes, the penalty can be decapitation, crucifixion, or death by stoning. In Saudi Arabia, where sharia governs civil society, these harsh penalties are still meted out. Women are shrouded and segregated from men; suggestive Western photographs censored; and criminals punished harshly. In the capital city of Riyadh, beheadings are carried out on a brick-and-marble plaza that some have dubbed "Chop-Chop Square."

And more about Sharia here and here.

Some of us are slaves to fashion.
They want to make us slaves to them, or at the very least, dhimmis.

Our guys and their guys have very different ideas about what to love.

Dealing in Death

Another chapter from early Islamic history -- serving as a lesson for today's Muslims at war against the West -- is the concept of the love of death. This originated at the Battle of Qadisiyya in the year 636, when the commander of the Muslim forces, Khalid ibn Al-Walid, sent an emissary with a message from Caliph Abu Bakr to the Persian commander, Khosru. The message stated: "You [Khosru and his people] should convert to Islam, and then you will be safe, for if you don't, you should know that I have come to you with an army of men that love death, as you love life." This account is recited in today's Muslim sermon

Life under Taliban cuts two ways Consider the following list of edicts issued by Taliban religious scholars in Kabul in December 1996:

"To prevent music.... In shops, hotels, vehicles, and rickshaws, cassettes and music are prohibited."

"To prevent beard shaving and its cutting. After one and a half months, if anyone [is] observed who has shaved and or cut his beard, they should be arrested and imprisoned until their beard is bushy."

"To prevent kite-flying."

"To prevent idolatry. In vehicles, shops, hotels, rooms, and any other place, pictures [and] portraits should be abolished."

"To prevent washing cloth by young ladies along the water streams in the city. Violator ladies should be picked up with respectful Islamic manner, taken to their houses, and their husbands severely punished."

The struggle over sharia Is sharia harsh?
Followed literally, it can be medieval. Sharia divides all human actions into five categories: obligatory, meritorious, permissible, reprehensible, and forbidden. Among the reprehensible and forbidden acts are drinking alcohol, eating pork, theft, slander, highway robbery, murder, adultery, and losing one's faith. Traditional punishments include whipping and the amputation of limbs. For the most severe crimes, the penalty can be decapitation, crucifixion, or death by stoning. In Saudi Arabia, where sharia governs civil society, these harsh penalties are still meted out. Women are shrouded and segregated from men; suggestive Western photographs censored; and criminals punished harshly. In the capital city of Riyadh, beheadings are carried out on a brick-and-marble plaza that some have dubbed "Chop-Chop Square."

And more about Sharia here and here.

Some of us are slaves to fashion.
They want to make us slaves to them, or at the very least, dhimmis.

Our guys and their guys have very different ideas about what to love.

Dealing in Death

Another chapter from early Islamic history -- serving as a lesson for today's Muslims at war against the West -- is the concept of the love of death. This originated at the Battle of Qadisiyya in the year 636, when the commander of the Muslim forces, Khalid ibn Al-Walid, sent an emissary with a message from Caliph Abu Bakr to the Persian commander, Khosru. The message stated: "You [Khosru and his people] should convert to Islam, and then you will be safe, for if you don't, you should know that I have come to you with an army of men that love death, as you love life." This account is recited in today's Muslim sermon

as for western countries, it is only lately, very lately, that they have lifted their own outstandingly sexist laws regarding the prosecution of sexual assault.

i'd like to also point out that when i was studying sexual assault in canada, perpetrators of the worst offences were often white. but what do you care?

Fox news

Me: "Without planting these seeds, the cancer of fanatical Islam will inevitably spread unchecked and take over the entire world by numbers and by force."

You: "Oh, put a plug in it, you racist idiot. The same can and has been said about the Jews. I don't see any sizable numbers of Islamic fanatics on the verge of taking over the world, but if I did , then I would blame dickheads like you first."

That's a powerful argument you muster there by calling me a racist idiot. For that, I salute you. Let me respond, you ignorant motherfucker (and I say that with the utmost respect).

You don't "see any sizable number of Islamic fanatics on the verge of taking over the world"? Maybe you should open your eyes. Large portions of the Islamic world are being educated from birth to hate Jews, hate Israel, and hate the West. [1]

And it doesn't even take an army any more to subdue or destroy an entire country. All it takes is a corrupt regime to build nasty weapons ("we need power for our desalinization plants"), people with the will to do terrible things, greed, and an appreciation of martyrdom over life.

Every day prominent Muslims speak out without hesitation about punishing and destroying the Western world. [2]
- "You will find that the Jews were behind all the civil strife in this world. The Jews are behind the suffering of the nations."
- "We have declared a fierce war on this evil principle of democracy and those who follow this wrong ideology."
- "Democracy, human rights, and freedom are all but hollow illusions, with which they tranquilize inhabitants."
- "What you have you seen, O Americans, in New York and Washington and the losses you are having in Afghanistan and Iraq, in spite of all the media blackout, are only the losses of the initial clashes."
- "The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews -- even the stones and trees which were harmed by them...The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew."
- "The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it"

If you really want to find a dickhead to blame for this hatred, you'd be better off looking on another continent and in the another millenium, because it's been around since before any of us were here, and it's excessively amplified now by the threat of nuclear weapons. Keep your head up your stank liberal ass if you like, but the facts (and the people involved) speak for themselves. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If you want to open your eyes to reality, there's plenty more information out there. [3]

[1] http://www.science.co.il/Arab-Israeli-conflict/Art icles/Education.asp -- oh no, it's a link to a site in Israel... I guess you can totally ignore the contents, right?
[2] http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson2005081 20813.asp -- all of these quotes were from a single article... It took me 5 seconds to find them on Google. There are hundreds more out there.
[3] http://www.jihadwatch.org/ -- one of many resources... feel free to find your own.

For constitutional purposes, the joint resolution passed with but a single dissenting vote by Congress on Sept. 14, 2001, was the equivalent of a formal declaration of war. The Supreme Court held in 1800 (Bas v. Tingy), and again in 1801 (Talbot v. Seamen), that Congress could formally authorize war by joint resolution without passing a formal declaration of war; and in the post-U.N. Charter era no state has issued a formal declaration of war. Such declarations, in fact, have become as much an anachronism as the power of Congress to issue letters of marque and reprisal (outlawed by treaty in 1856). Formal declarations were historically only required when a state was initiating an aggressive war, which today is unlawful. -- FISA vs the Constitution

I want to live under Shari'a just so I can divorce my wife with a text message. How cool is that??? Do I have to convert to Islam to do this, or can we inferior Dhimmis do it too?

One could also put it in a slightly different way: Europe lacks what America still has, namely the so-called "conservative reserves," or as the German sociologist Arnold Gehlen explained over 30 years ago, "the reserves in national energy and self-confidence, primitiveness and generosity, wealth and potential of every kind." Every so often I travel to the U.S. to recharge my batteries, and I am not the only European Conservative to do so. From time to time one needs to breathe the air of freedom before submerging again in the stifling atmosphere of Europe.

It is interesting to contrast this....

Facing down a culture where they talk like crazies

In a more culturally confident age, the British in India were faced with the practice of "suttee" -- the tradition of burning widows on the funeral pyres of their husbands. General Sir Charles Napier was impeccably multicultural:

''You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: When men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows.You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."

India today is better off without suttee. If we shrink from the logic of that, then in Afghanistan and many places far closer to home the implications are, as the Prince of Wales would say, "ghastly."

... with this...

Beheading Nations - The Islamization of Europe's Cities

In an online story in newspaper The Daily Telegraph that was removed "for legal reasons," former Muslim Dr. Patrick Sookhdeo warned that British Muslims could soon form a state within the state. Dr Sookhdeo believed that "in a decade, you will see parts of English cities which are controlled by Muslim clerics and which follow, not the common law, but aspects of Muslim sharia law." "In 1980, the Islamic Council of Europe laid out their strategy for the future - and the fundamental rule was never dilute your presence. That is to say, do not integrate." "Rather, concentrate Muslim presence in a particular area until you are a majority in that area, so that the institutions of the local community come to reflect Islamic structures. The education system will be Islamic, the shops will serve only halal food, there will be no advertisements showing naked or semi-naked women, and so on."

The next step will be pushing the Government to recognize sharia law for Muslim communities - which will be backed up by the claim that it is "racist" or "Islamophobic" to deny them this. Sookhdeo noted that there is already a Sharia Law Council for the UK. "There are Muslim men in Britain who marry and divorce three women, then marry a fourth time - and stay married, in sharia law, to all four." "The more fundamentalist clerics think that it is only a matter of time before they will persuade the Government to concede on the issue of sharia law. Given the Government's record of capitulating, you can see why they believe that."

Europe is in trouble....

While such comments are totally unacceptable, the establishment does seem to be very selective in who they punish. For instance why are the people who made these statments not being locked up. Does political correctness only apply to white anglo-saxon protestants.

"I believe the whole of Britain has become Dar ul-Harb (land of war)," the Syria-born Mohammed said. Therefore, "the kafir (non-believer) has no sanctity for their own life or property," - Omar Bakri Mohammed

was Re:Crap, we have laws like that?

This is just one video game out of many that has been created to train / recruit / fulfill fantasies of would-be terrorists.

For example, http://jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003651. php/ details a game in which you perform terrorist activities against Israel.

Another example is a game called "Night of Bush Capturing". As its name implies, the goal of the game is to hunt down "a character representing" President George W. Bush. There are six levels with names such as "Jihad Beginning," American's Hell," and "Bush Hunter Like a Rat," and traditional jihadist songs play in the background.

That the Iranians are now doing developing a game to do the same is neither surprising nor should it be alarming. It could very well be an entertainment video game that is targetted to a very specific and narrow genre.

You're still thinking like a Westerner - you still look at behavior and expect to see behind it, the attempt to gain something or improve one's position.

JihadWatch.org

FaithFreedom.org

An thread at ESR's blog

By your post I can only assume either you have an astounding misconception of Islam or have been converted to Islam. Perhaps both, I don't know.

You may want to have a look at 'current events' over at http://www.jihadwatch.org/

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As a European I assume your Easter involves a lot of hating jews.

"I have killed my Jew; I am going to heaven!"

Anti-Semitic crimes frequently go unreported in the major press, suppressed by French authorities, victims fearing retribution--and news agencies.
French Jews live in constant fear, Poller said. Everyday activities, such as taking a taxi, going to synagogue or shopping can bring attacks. The entire community is traumatized. This pattern was effectively repeated with the November murders in Paris after initial reports indicated that both cases were anti-Semitic crimes.

Given intense and worsening anti-Semitism in France and Europe, there seems little hope that the government will actually investigate the arson, much less prosecute the perpetrator if it finds one. After all, EU officials deny the severity of the problem. Last week, they shelved an EU report on the subject for fear of antagonizing Muslims, who were behind many of the incidents examined.

Europe a vile place and a pradise for bigots.
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As a European I assume your Easter involves a lot of hating jews.

"I have killed my Jew; I am going to heaven!"

Anti-Semitic crimes frequently go unreported in the major press, suppressed by French authorities, victims fearing retribution--and news agencies.
French Jews live in constant fear, Poller said. Everyday activities, such as taking a taxi, going to synagogue or shopping can bring attacks. The entire community is traumatized. This pattern was effectively repeated with the November murders in Paris after initial reports indicated that both cases were anti-Semitic crimes.

Given intense and worsening anti-Semitism in France and Europe, there seems little hope that the government will actually investigate the arson, much less prosecute the perpetrator if it finds one. After all, EU officials deny the severity of the problem. Last week, they shelved an EU report on the subject for fear of antagonizing Muslims, who were behind many of the incidents examined.

Europe a vile place and a pradise for bigots.

Faith Freedom site of Ali Sina
TheReligionOfPeace
EuroJihad (in polish)
Cox & Forkum (funny drawings)
JihadWatch
PravdaOIslamu (in czech)
Saudi blogger
Egyptian blogger
Hizb-ut-Tahrir Islamic site

Dhimmitude is the status that Islamic law, the Sharia, mandates for non-Muslims, primarily Jews and Christians. Dhimmis, "protected people," are free to practice their religion in a Sharia regime, but are made subject to a number of humiliating regulations designed to enforce the Qur'an's command that they "feel themselves subdued" (Sura 9:29). This denial of equality of rights and dignity remains part of the Sharia, and, as such, are part of the law that global jihadists are laboring to impose everywhere, ultimately on the entire human race.

The dhimmi attitude of chastened subservience has entered into Western academic study of Islam, and from there into journalism, textbooks, and the popular discourse. One must not point out the depredations of jihad and dhimmitude; to do so would offend the multiculturalist ethos that prevails everywhere today.

You might be wary of the Muslims too if you'd seen the state of affairs across the bridge in poor old Sweden :(

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=121505E
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_(film_d irector)
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?typ e=topNews&storyID=2005-12-18T102039Z_01_FLE836834_ RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAN-ISRAEL.xml

Anyone who can still deny the threat that Islam presents to the freedoms we hold dear in the West is just not paying attention, or they're just afraid of ending up like Theo Van Gogh.

Your post has got to be the best example of European Leftist sanctimony I've seen on slashdot, right up to the liberal use of personal attacks and ugly language. Allow me to rebut your point of view:

You claim that the Muslim world "had a democracy". (I'll ignore for now that your use of the word "democracy" is rhetoric.) This is incorrect. The Muslim world, before its breakup, was the Caliphate, which was a Theocracy, ruled by Islamic law called Shari'a.

You claim that the prophet Muhammad practiced Democratic principles. In reality, he waged ethnic cleansing of the Jews (I know that hating Jews is in vogue in the Left nowadays), religious persecution, religious war, and coerced marriage with young girls.

You claim that the lack of a "democracy" in the Muslim world is due to "imperial influence". Not only is this false since I've already established that the Caliphate was a theocracy, but you ignore the fact that Muslims exerted a little imperialism of their own. Perhaps you remember that Spain used to be ruled by Muslims, and that the Muslim armies (who were conquering land by force in the name of religion) extended into France before they were defeated.

You ignore the fact that the countries which deny women the right to vote are Muslim-ruled countries, since woman's suffrage is contrary to Shari'a.

You ignore the fact that Shari'a also prescribes the death penalty for homosexuals. (As a gay man, I regard that as important.)

You ignore the fact that adoption rights do not exist under Shari'a. (As an adoptive parent, I regard that as important.)

You ignore the fact that offensive jihad had been pracised many, many times by muslim armies in the past (remember Spain?).

You ignore the fact that the belief that Islam will dominate the world is a mainstream view among muslims -- not an extreme view, a mainstream view.

You ignore the fact that many muslim countries voted against the UN declaration of human rights (not all of which I support, but you probably regard as important), arguing that Islam (Shari'a) was the only solution for all humanity.

You ignore the fact that muslims see the world in two and only two camps: dar al-Islam (the world of Islam) and dar al-Harb (the world of war), and you, in their point of view, are in the dar al-Harb and, therefore, at war with all Muslims.

I understand that you hate America and hate George Bush. I didn't vote for Bush, nor do I like his policies, nor do I support him. You have to let go of that hatred and recognize that all of us who value individual rights and freedoms, not to mention women's rights and gay rights, have a huge problem facing us regarding Islam. Please take your head out of the sand and learn about what Islam really *is* instead of what you merely want it to be.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

Also note that Muslims have a religious imperative to conceal information from and deceive the Infidels. (Look up the words "al-taqiyya" and "kitman") Moreover, in Islam there is no concept of "civilian". Non-muslims are either subjigated Dhimmis, when they live under Muslim rule ("Dar al-Islam"), or enemies, when they live elsewhere ("Dar al-Harb"- that is, "House of War")

Such fatwas are disingenuous and intended to placate the Infidels.

Read http://www.jihadwatch.org/ for more information.

Also note that Muslims have a religious imperative to conceal information from and deceive the Infidels. (Look up the words "al-taqiyya" and "kitman") Moreover, in Islam there is no concept of "civilian". Non-muslims are either subjigated Dhimmis, when they live under Muslim rule ("Dar al-Islam"), or enemies, when they live elsewhere ("Dar al-Harb"- that is, "House of War")

Such fatwas are disingenuous and intended to placate the Infidels.

Read http://www.jihadwatch.org/ for more information.

Also note that Muslims have a religious imperative to conceal information from and deceive the Infidels. (Look up the words "al-taqiyya" and "kitman") Moreover, in Islam there is no concept of "civilian". Non-muslims are either subjigated Dhimmis, when they live under Muslim rule ("Dar al-Islam"), or enemies, when they live elsewhere ("Dar al-Harb"- that is, "House of War")

Such fatwas are disingenuous and intended to placate the Infidels.

Read http://www.jihadwatch.org/ for more information.

You're a deluded fool if you think that will help.

We could bring back every soldier, throw Israel to the wolves, quintuple aid to the Muslim world, and not one thing would change.

Osama and his crew are still bent out of shape about the reconquest of Andalusia in 1492.

They harbor bitter resentment about the Balfour Declaration and Sykes-Picot Agreement and the fall of the Ottoman Empire, dating back 80 years or more.

They planned the September 11 attacks long before Bush ever came to power, at a time when the American military was fighting Christian Serbs to protect Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo.

The Islamists have made it abundantly clear that they will not stop fighting jihad until the whole world lives under a Muslim caliphate. There is no reasoning with such people. We kill them, or they will surely kill us. Now they have nuclear weapons in Pakistan and are on the verge of obtaining them in Iran. Next time they attack London, there could be a hundred thousand casualties rather than 50.

And with the relative birth rates of Muslims vs. the native populations of Europe, the time is rapidly approaching when Europe will have to decide whether to submit to Sharia law, or expel their Muslim population by force. I'm not kidding. Italian and French women are having 1.2 babies per lifetime, while Muslim women in the same countries are brood mares producing five or six little jihadis each. Demography is destiny, and there is no third option.

-ccm

You're a deluded fool if you think that will help.

We could bring back every soldier, throw Israel to the wolves, quintuple aid to the Muslim world, and not one thing would change.

Osama and his crew are still bent out of shape about the reconquest of Andalusia in 1492.

They harbor bitter resentment about the Balfour Declaration and Sykes-Picot Agreement and the fall of the Ottoman Empire, dating back 80 years or more.

They planned the September 11 attacks long before Bush ever came to power, at a time when the American military was fighting Christian Serbs to protect Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo.

The Islamists have made it abundantly clear that they will not stop fighting jihad until the whole world lives under a Muslim caliphate. There is no reasoning with such people. We kill them, or they will surely kill us. Now they have nuclear weapons in Pakistan and are on the verge of obtaining them in Iran. Next time they attack London, there could be a hundred thousand casualties rather than 50.

And with the relative birth rates of Muslims vs. the native populations of Europe, the time is rapidly approaching when Europe will have to decide whether to submit to Sharia law, or expel their Muslim population by force. I'm not kidding. Italian and French women are having 1.2 babies per lifetime, while Muslim women in the same countries are brood mares producing five or six little jihadis each. Demography is destiny, and there is no third option.

-ccm

Simple fact is that after attacking Afghanistan after 9/11 and going after terrorists aggressively for a change, the number of terrorist attacks has not risen from normal even during the "jihad against all involved" claims.

Simple fact is - no, terrorist attacks have not been on the decline.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/005946.php
They tripled in 2004 alone.

You can't sweet talk terrorists into being nice people.

I don't have a link, but in Saudi Arabia, they had a program where when a jihadi was captured, they were given the opportunity to debate with a muslim cleric, on the justification in Isalam for external jihad (Jihad waged as a physical war of violence against infidels, as opposed to the more accepted definition of an internal war within the believer to defeat a non-believing self). The conditions of the debate were; if the jihadi wins, he goes free. If the cleric wins, the jihadi goes to prison, and when released, must join in the effort to convince other jihadis that violence is wrong, and not an acceptible part of Islam. Each and every jihadi that went through this program (in 2002, when I read about it) was converted from radicalism. So yes, you CAN "sweet-talk" terrorists into being nice people, if you can accept the notion that not all muslims are radical. On the other hand, if you prefer to paint all muslims with the same broad brush, then perhaps you require some sweet-talking yourself.

The Reverend Franklin Graham called Islam a 'very evil and wicked religion' and said the Qur'an, Islam's revealed text, 'preaches violence.'

Converts are usually the most enthusiastic members of any faith. They often try the hardest to share what they now have with others. But you'll have to look a long, long time before you find another faith which motivates its converts to try to blow up airliners.

You'll find plenty more examples here, including examples of broad support for terrorism among Muslims even in the west. Also see The Middle East Media Research Institute.

... the responses have shown me that you, as a community, are ignoring the rotting buffalo carcass in the living room that is the very real hate-mongering within your ranks.

Defending the indefensible is great training for second-class citizenship under Islam (dhimmi status; also see here).

The Reverend Franklin Graham called Islam a 'very evil and wicked religion' and said the Qur'an, Islam's revealed text, 'preaches violence.'

Converts are usually the most enthusiastic members of any faith. They often try the hardest to share what they now have with others. But you'll have to look a long, long time before you find another faith which motivates its converts to try to blow up airliners.

You'll find plenty more examples here, including examples of broad support for terrorism among Muslims even in the west. Also see The Middle East Media Research Institute.

... the responses have shown me that you, as a community, are ignoring the rotting buffalo carcass in the living room that is the very real hate-mongering within your ranks.

Defending the indefensible is great training for second-class citizenship under Islam (dhimmi status; also see here).

...that you're not surprised when you read these things from the LA Times. http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004746.php