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Don't forget that a lot of the Linux stuff runs on OS X, so check out Quanta, a KDE-based web site editor.

One can create photo galleries, use advanced groupware applications, browse anything on your computer, be it a camera or a network share from the same interface, have a music player that fits in appearance with the rest of the GUI, and oh yeah, works on everything, from a Sun Ultra 2, to a PC, to a Mac G3. Yeah, there are a few niche applications where a mac may be good in, but for The Rest of Us, Linux is where it's at.

Off the topic, can anyone recommend a good HTML editor for linux? Something like Homesite in terms of features (coloring, validation) would be nice.

KDE's Quanta promises a lot... It comes with the modern KDE, or you can get the souped up Quanta Gold from theKompany.

Relax, don't worry, have a homebrew!

Decrem later issued a rather funny retraction which can still be found on archive.org. I wish the images that went along with the retraction were archived too, but it's still pretty funny.

Do you mean like this?

Behold, he is the Quizat Haderac

Those geeks having a recent KDE desktop (3+) should enjoy the benefits of pop3 email filtering in KMail that allows to kill the spam *before* it kills your bandwidth.

Has anyone looked at what educational programs work under wine?

They don't. They run under KDE.

"is a simple desktop publishing program similar to QuarkXPress, Adobe PageMaker or Adobe InDesign"

Or you could support the GPL fork, called Quanta Plus, which also seems to be coming along nicely.

KEdit.

Second of all this is an old idea on Linux -- both gnome and KDE have a taskbar newsticker which supports many different site feeds. Forget what the gnome one is called, and KNewsTicker for KDE.

I know that the KDE team uses DocBook,
for which there's a great guide (crash course)
that they encourage their writers to use.

m o n o l i n u x :: All Day Long. All Day Strong.

Yeah, I saw this one. Definitely a keeper. Since the site is down, check out the apps.kde.com info page. It has screenshots and all.

kdevelop
KDE Studio Gold
or just search through
apps.kde.com

KDE also has a kioslave for undeleteing files here

I don't anything about AutoCad, dwg or dxf but I noticed this on apps.kde.com the other day:

You can create an LGPL library on top of a GPL library. You can also create BSD or X-style licensed programs as well. The KDE libraries are indeed LGPL, and see the license to mosfet's Pixie.

This means your second statement is false. You can buy a Qt license and develop closed-source KDE apps. Want an example? Try Kapital, from TheKompany.

I do not think a lot of the developers are going to take the time to answer a RFP in the depth that most software vendors or VARS would.

Open source people are not going to be paid for a "sale" were as the normal software vendors are competing for some money if they can make a sale.

He sends them a large bill - $15,000 - for his services, and someone in the Accounts Payable department says the bill is too expensive for what he did, and needs to be itemized. So he itemized his charges:

• Making chalk mark, $1.
• Knowing where to put mark, $14,999.

One can sell one's expertise in selecting software as much as one can sell one's expertise in creating it. Or one can sell other things. We sometimes miss this in our industry because it is extremely rare for someone other than the manufacturer of a software product to provide maintenance and support of it. But because a product is open source, a purchaser can find anyone who is capable of doing so to provide maintenance.

In about 50 miles I need to change the oil again in my 1998 Dodge Intrepid because it's been another 3,000 miles. I can do the work myself and perhaps save money, I can pay a third-party perhaps $12 to do it, or I can pay a little more, take it to a dealer of the car to do it. It's a commodity operation and I can get anyone I feel qualified to perform it.

With non-open-source you only have the last option when you need something done (if they even will do it; consider calling up Microsoft and asking for a customized change to Outlook. Better be prepared to either be a huge customer, pay a huge fee, or suck air). With open-source you can get your hands as dirty as you want or you can pay someone else if you don't feel competent (or your organization doesn't have the direct ability) to make the changes. You have choices.

An RFP has some type of reward (sale) possible to the winner for them to spend time on responding to it.

A RFP is a request for proposal - A proposal for what? A proposal is a first step toward a contract. A contract with who? Who will get paid? I do not think a RFP process will get you very far.

For an open source product the cost of the software will be zero.

What is the cost of water these days? I can get it for free from a water fountain, perhaps pay almost nothing for a quart of water out of the tap, perhaps pay $20 for a filter every couple of months if I don't like the taste of tap water, or perhaps pay anywhere from 50c to $3 for a bottle of it in a store. That does not ignore the fact that the original price of the water was probably in the neighborhood of 1/10 of 1c per gallon from a public utility or a municipal water district. For all intents and purposes the original price of the water might as well be considered 'free' yet that doesn't stop companies from making money 'selling' water that cost them next to nothing to obtain.

Perhaps the customer pays for having the supplier provide and deliver 20,000 CDs of the software to sites so everyone has a copy instead of clogging network usage downloading it from servers. Or pays for a customized installer where the original product didn't have one or it's too complicated. Or pays for special services to go with it, like paying not only for the software but having someone write documentation. Or train people in how to use it. Or train their technical staff in how to support it. Or doing the support themselves. Or that the customer pays the supplier for finding the precise package that best fits their needs because the supplier knows what products are better for their particular circumstances.

Support and maintenance I guess would be in-house.

Let's say the Sixth National Bank wants to stop paying for Microsoft Exchange as their mail server and client licenses for Microsoft Outlook. I offer to provide them with an equivalent functionality using a Linux box running QMail (let's say that they want a highly reliable e-mail system so that eliminates use of Sendmail) and include for the client end some Windows port of an open-source client or group of clients that originally ran on KDE or GNOME, for less money than it would cost to have one person at the bank to maintain it because the maintenance I can offer on an as-needed basis to several companies.

The bank has people who could do the work inhouse but they are better suited handling the stuff that is the bank's core expertise (handling checking accounts and the billing of outrageous fees on those checking accounts), and the bank can pay me to provide them with updates and added functionality without having to have people doing work that isn't part of their core competency, BUT with the additional advantage that since the product is open source if I decide to quit, they can find someone else to do it or they could do it themselves if they choose to do so.

What's left then is comparison of different capabilities. This becomes a request for comments now (RFC).

A suggestion change here. Maybe send a RFP to consulting firms on helping you with project(s). A selected firm could help in gathering requirements, research products, help in the installation and maintenance ... If you trying to spend money anyways. :)

Paul Robinson <Postmaster@paul.washington.dc.us>

This page gets my browser (ie6) into an endless nested frame.

size below 200 k nice interface (like limewire but prettier -> KDE2 conforming)
Screenshots here!

Has all the features one would need. Of course it is a lot faster than Limewire.

Finally one thin I would like to see: A pure and true gnutella server daemon. No GUI. No nothing. Even gnut requires logging in. So how can I start a gnutella client by ssh? How do I control it ? Not possible, the program clkoses as soon as I drop the ssh connection. Now that would be a nice feature in a gnutella client.

I don't know, but I'm guessing it's because every time they try, they pick names that sound REALLY DUMB!

Check these out (no offense to the developers, I'm sure they're all great programs) :

Mr. Project

Pygmy

A (Don't know where that one came from...)

ToutDoux

Gramps

EtherApe

Shogiopening

Moleskine

Krabber

Koog Epsilon

Ogg Vorbis

I could go on, but I think you get the point. These people need some serious help when it comes to name-picking. Microsoft et al have apparently cornered the market on good names. Consider Outlook. Putting aside what you think of the program itself, you have to agree that it's a very good name.

I don't know, but I'm guessing it's because every time they try, they pick names that sound REALLY DUMB!

Check these out (no offense to the developers, I'm sure they're all great programs) :

Mr. Project

Pygmy

A (Don't know where that one came from...)

ToutDoux

Gramps

EtherApe

Shogiopening

Moleskine

Krabber

Koog Epsilon

Ogg Vorbis

I could go on, but I think you get the point. These people need some serious help when it comes to name-picking. Microsoft et al have apparently cornered the market on good names. Consider Outlook. Putting aside what you think of the program itself, you have to agree that it's a very good name.

http://apps.kde.com/na/2/info/id/1066

Descent? Or decent?
I assume decent.
Opera
Konqueror

BTW, whoever marked my post as flamebait is an idiot. Have a nice day.

There's KIllustrator (photo-editing), Konqueror and Mozilla (web browsing, HTML editing etc), and again a good many others.

Oh, and anti-aliased fonts are very very nice, but that's just a bonus of a superior toolkit...

There's KIllustrator (photo-editing), Konqueror and Mozilla (web browsing, HTML editing etc), and again a good many others.

Oh, and anti-aliased fonts are very very nice, but that's just a bonus of a superior toolkit...

There's KIllustrator (photo-editing), Konqueror and Mozilla (web browsing, HTML editing etc), and again a good many others.

Oh, and anti-aliased fonts are very very nice, but that's just a bonus of a superior toolkit...

There's KIllustrator (photo-editing), Konqueror and Mozilla (web browsing, HTML editing etc), and again a good many others.

Oh, and anti-aliased fonts are very very nice, but that's just a bonus of a superior toolkit...

First off, a minor question: Other than starting from scratch or porting, how else would you write a program?

As for the "lack" of KDE apps: if you're judging by Freshmeat, I'd agree. But (unfortunantly, IMHO), many many KDE apps aren't listed on Freshmeat. KDE has its own applications site, Apps dot KDE located at http://apps.kde.com/.

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Evan

It's nice to see that the folks at this Open Source Directory are modeling the software categories after Sourceforge'.s Software/application taxonomies typically vary from site-to-site and distribution-to-distribution. While I appreciate that all the site maintainers out there take time to organize information about software applications, the diversity makes it difficult to synthesize materials from multiple sources. I applaud this directory's deference to a previously-existing taxonomy.

A while back, I started creating a list of software categorization schemes/systems relevent to Linuxland:

http://freshmeat.net/browse/627/
http://apps.kde.com/na/2/categories&nav=f
http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/
http://dir.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Softwa re/
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/ binary-i386/
ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/
http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/index.html
http://www.userfriendly.net/linux/RPM/Groups.html
http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-category/
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/
ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/media- types/media-types
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
http://www.labs.redhat.com/gug/users-guide/main-me nu.html
http://www.linux.com/links/Software/

While it's no Nautilus plugin, it is a KDE application that is usable now.
I personally think that's two pluses instead of just one.

PS Does anyone have a mirror of that supposedly pretty eye candy?

Alex Bischoff
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I suggest you take a look here

Although it is not ready for prime time - it shows good signs of progress, and I expect the next release to have IMAP support.

Check it out at http://apps.kde.com/infofr.php?id=837Looks nice and might evolve to something great... I like it