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Been using it for about a month...
I've been beta-testing Kubuntu Feisty for about a month now, and it's amazing. It's already a huge improvement over Edgy. Everything is so intuitive and easy to use; Feisty is going to kick ass.
Some of the new stuff they've added are a new wireless network manager by default, big improvements to the package installation system, easy codec/flash installation, lots of user interface tweaks... It looks so polished now, I love it.
Here are the Herd release announcements, containing a subset of the changes Feisty brings:
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd1/Kubuntu
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd2/Kubuntu
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd3/Kubuntu
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd4/Kubuntu -
Been using it for about a month...
I've been beta-testing Kubuntu Feisty for about a month now, and it's amazing. It's already a huge improvement over Edgy. Everything is so intuitive and easy to use; Feisty is going to kick ass.
Some of the new stuff they've added are a new wireless network manager by default, big improvements to the package installation system, easy codec/flash installation, lots of user interface tweaks... It looks so polished now, I love it.
Here are the Herd release announcements, containing a subset of the changes Feisty brings:
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd1/Kubuntu
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd2/Kubuntu
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd3/Kubuntu
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Herd4/Kubuntu -
err, wtf crazy version/hardware 've ya been tryin?Ubuntu have frozen on boot on all computers I have tried it on, while Fedora and CentOS works flawlessly. I refuse to even try booting Ubuntu with a modified kernel command line, since most or all Ubuntu users tout the "ease of use" of Ubuntu, in contrast to such "hard-to-use" distros like Fedora.
Ubuntu won't be installed on any computer near me unless it can be booted without a whole load of kernel parameters. Ubuntu quite frankly sucks. I hate to claim FUD, but I'm not sure what else this could be.
What are you trying to install, some pre-alpha release of 5.04 or something? Or by "computers" do you mean you're trying to install the i386 version on, like, an old iMac or a PS3? Seriously, I just installed Ubuntu on an ancient Toshiba laptop (didn't even have an ethernet adapter) and the ancient 5.04 that the laptop's owner had installed himself even worked decently. I hate 5.04 (and it wasn't working with his pcmcia Wireless-G card, wouldn't even detect that it was there) so that's when I installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu . . . and 6.10 worked flawlessly. Well, flawlessly but really really damn slow ;) this thing had, like, 8GB of HDD space or something tiny. He really wanted Ubuntu, but I went and added xubuntu-desktop as the default and told him that, but he was quite happy to resurrect his laptop (and Xfce runs much, much faster than Gnome, obviously, which he could nonetheless boot into if he wanted the shiny "modern" GUI). Oh yeah, and his pcmcia wireless card? It even asked me in the install if I wanted to use it as the primary network interface.
That's only one example, yeah, but I'd argue it's a border case, something really old and rather proprietary. On the other end I also installed Kubuntu 6.10 on my sister's new Acer laptop about a month ago (the upside of Vista: XP machines clearanced recklessly). Too bad 7.04 isn't out yet, it has a few little tidbits that would be nice with a laptop, but despite having previously been an exclusive Windows user my sister is quite satisfied. And nearly all I did was just install it, clicking next-next-next and etc (weirdly the Acer laptop had half the HDD partitioned to a blank Fat32, it's like it was deliberately set up for a Linux/Windows dual-boot). I've also installed on a friend's old Compaq, another friend's Dell, and the AMD64 release of Kubuntu 6.10 on my semi-brand-new AMD socket 939 X2 (on a SATA drive, and the chipset the motherboard uses was unsupportable by Linux until relatively recently). And so on and so on.
At no point have I ever had to add a single kernel parameter.
That includes my older computer where I started with 5.10 preview release, started fucking with things that I shouldn't have (in many ways moreso than ESR, and I certainly know a hell of a lot less than him, especially at the time) and bungled several upgrades, and still, still I never had to do anything at all with kernel parameters.
Parent, I cannot think of many reasonable explanations for your troubles with Ubuntu, especially since you make it sound like every computer you've seen won't work with Ubuntu without unholy invocations. Perhaps you are the unluckiest person in the world, yet only with Ubuntu? -
Re:DOS
My AMD 64 3800+ has FreeDOS on the 2nd partition of my 1st hard drive. It is formatted as a FAT-16 partition. It is one of the choices on the GRUB boot menu. I only boot up DOS every once in a while, but it does run on my AMD 64 computer. About a year ago or so ago I had IBM PC DOS 2000 installed on the 1st partion which also ran well. I later reformatted that partition as NTFS and installed Windows 2000 on my first partition instead. I still have FreeDOS on the 2nd partition. I have Slackware Linux installed on my 3rd partition and in that case I have 32-bit version of Linux running on a 64-bit computer. On a logical partition I have the AMD-64 version of Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) Linux which is what I like best and use most of the time.
An easier way to run an old DOS program under Linux or Windows would be to just use the free DOSBox program. In the past, I also used VMWare and had PC DOS 2000 installed on one the the virtual machines. With VMWare I was able to run Linux, Windows and DOS all at once.
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Re:The Ubuntu Way of doing things ...
They use Gnome (which I don't like)
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You don't have to use Gnome.
Just download Kubuntu and enjoy KDE. We use it on five machines, and it is great. -
How much you want to tinker with the OS?
If you want an easy, out of the box solution go with Ubuntu or one of it's variants. http://www.ubuntu.com/ http://www.kubuntu.org/ http://www.xubuntu.org/
If you want to tinker with the OS a bit I'd suggest Slackware. http://www.slackware.com/ It isn't as easy to set up or maintain. However, you will have more of an opportunity to actually learn what is going on with they system. -
Re:The end of the line
The computer's operator, however, does not wish to take the time to learn the inner workings of Linux
To be honest, I don't really know the inner working of Kernel that much, or how many of the everyday applications I use exactly work internally.he (I) can do simple things like install a new piece of hardware.
In most cases, I've found just plugging in the hardware is all I needed todo (touchpads, scanners, webcams etc.). The only thing I've found that did not auto configure itself, was the printers (which was very easy since all I had todo was open http://127.0.0.1:631/ in a webbrowser, and use the wizards from there).
The only thing in particular that I have ever had hardware problems with under Linux, was support of RAID controllers (they either worked or they didn't) -- But that is not off-the-shelf hardware at all. Even getting that working under windows, you need to hit some special key while windows setup is starting, provide the drivers on the disk (you would need a diskdrive) and so on.Make Linux as simple to use as Windows -- in all respects -- and you'll have my ear.
In my opinion (as someone who uses Windows on daily tasks also), it is easier than Windows. As another post indicated, there is such a thing as a package manager. You would be amazed how many packages are in there. The only times I have ever needed to install something outside of it, was relatively easy too. Downloading installers off a website that usually come in a format your package manager recognizes or a compressed archive that has a graphical installer inside.I don't want or need to know how an OS works.
This is pretty much why I started using Linux in the first place. I got so fedup of tweaking Windows XP, using a bunch of registry hacks, investigating why the file -> open/save dialogs were taking so long to open up. Investigating why opening network shares would cause explorer to freeze up (to the point where I started avoiding using it, because I couldn't stand waiting minutes for it to unfreeze).An OS should be seamless, simply a conduit for running software and using hardware.
Agreed.
If I had to recommend a distribution of Linux to try, I'd mention Kubuntu Linux or Mandriva Linux currently. -
a link 4 u :-)
It says DVD -- use the torrent link!!!!:
http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php#latest -
Make sure to install media codecs!
Make sure to install the non-free media libraries (e.g. libxine-extracodecs, Adobe Flash 9 beta, libdvdcss2). Make sure they have main, universe, multiverse, and restricted all enabled in their sources.list. You might want to add the WINE repository (deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main) so they get the latest version of WINE (install that too).
If they use GNOME, I would still recommend installing Amarok [1.4.3] (deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-stable/ dapper main) for their music pleasure. Hell, you could install Amarok 1.4.4 which comes with a built-in music store (Magnatune).
In the case of whether to use GNOME or KDE, I recommend giving both LiveCDs to him/her to try and let them determine which one they like better; it's completely personal preference to non-geeks (us geeks seem to prefer KDE due to functionality and customisability, but others prefer GNOME for its simplicity as well) and geeks alike. I recommend KDE, but that's just my opinion (Kubuntu is a nice KDE distro; they provide backports for up to date KDE packages on kubuntu.org including KDE, KOffice, and Amarok). -
Kubuntu upgrade
I used the instructions from here and experienced zero problems. Worked perfectly
I am amazed how many people are reporting problems on here though, the #kubuntu channel on freenode hasn't exactly been getting that many people with upgrade problems either. -
Et tu, Kubuntu?
Kubuntu 6.10 has also been released. New features + installation/upgrade instructions are here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
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Re:Easy upgrade from Dapper
Also available is kubuntu (for those that like their desktop KDE.
Links to the CDs / Torrents here:
http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
Automatic update procedure is as follows:
1.In Konqueror go to /etc/apt, right click on sources.list and choose Actions -> Edit as Root
2.Change all instances of dapper to edgy
3.Launch a console with K-Menu -> System -> Konsole
4.In the console run: sudo apt-get update
5.In the console run: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and follow the prompts to upgrade
6.In the console run: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal and follow the prompts to install
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Packages already avaliable for Kubuntu
Take a look here --> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-16.php
or, add these to you /etc/sources.list :
* deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/koffice- 1.6.0/kubuntu dapper main
* deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub /kde/stable/koffice-1.6.0/kubuntu dapper main
* deb http://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/kde/stable/koff ice-1.6.0/kubuntu dapper main
* deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-16 dapper main -
Packages already avaliable for Kubuntu
Take a look here --> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-16.php
or, add these to you /etc/sources.list :
* deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/koffice- 1.6.0/kubuntu dapper main
* deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub /kde/stable/koffice-1.6.0/kubuntu dapper main
* deb http://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/kde/stable/koff ice-1.6.0/kubuntu dapper main
* deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-16 dapper main -
Re:American Tardis?
Duuuuuude, just ask John Titor. Time Machines are SO real. The aliens are waiting for us in the 5th dimension. Let's go! Come on, LET'S GOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo!!!!!11111111111111111111
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err... Whoa, I did NOT see that one coming. Damn acid flashbacks. Where was I? Ah yes, back to running kubuntu with 2.6.18-rt5 :P
(This has to be one of the weirder posts I have written on Slashdot.) -
Re:THREE words
If you do decide to setup Linux for a media center you could use MythTV to create your own personal video recorder (PVR). I haven't tried it yet, but I am a Linux user who has been thinking about trying MythTV. I plan to get a copy of the book "Hacking MythTV" and try it out. The easiest option would probably be for me to use KnoppMyth which is a Linux distribution specially designed to make installation of MythTV as easy as possible. I also ran across some info about KnoppMyth at KnoppMythWiki. I am not really sure what effect a DRM restricted future might eventually have on a Linux media center. Perhaps Hollywood, Microsoft and Congress will somehow eventually block access to most content for open non-proprietary solutions.
If someone isn't already a Linux user Ubuntu or Kubuntu might be a good choice for general use. I have not looked into how they would be for multi-media or PVR use though. With Ubunutu or Kubuntu you can use the Synaptic package manager to download free software from the list of thousands of free progams that are avaiable and have it installed with the dependancies taken care of automatically. For various legal reasons most versions of Linux don't come preconfigured to play DVD movies or MP3 files. That is somewhat of a nuisance, but instructions on how to do that are available on the Internet and in some books.
With Linux I can rebuild my computer with a new motherboard and other hardware without worring about licensing issues. With Linux, no need to scan for viruses or worms either! My understaning is that viruses and worms are pretty much a Microsoft only problem. It's not a significant issue for Linux, Mac OS X, or Unix. As much as I like Linux, a barely computer literate computer user would probably be best off hoping that the day eventually comes when local stores start selling boxes with pre-installed with Linux just like Windows. Go ahead and make Windows licensing as annoying as possible to help that day eventually come.
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Time for Ubuntu to step up to the plate.
This is the time that the Ubuntu crowd will really need to step up to the plate. They offer the premiere desktop Linux distribution at this time. If any Linux distribution will challenge Vista, it will be Ubuntu or an Ubuntu-based distribution.
It'd be very beneficial to the open source community if Kubuntu could be hyped as much as Firefox was. With even just a fraction of the momentum that Firefox once had, we may see the landscape change over night.
I'd recommend Kubuntu only because it uses KDE, which at this time is a more mature and usable desktop than GNOME. I have moved several relatives to Ubuntu (using GNOME) and Kubuntu (using KDE). A couple of those relatives using GNOME visited the relative using KDE, and they wanted to switch after seeing how much better it was. So from my own experience and that of a few people I know, KDE would appear to be the best desktop to go with, thus Kubuntu is naturally the best distribution to choose.
It'd take a lot of coordination and effort to pull something like this off. But I think it is well within the grasp of the Ubuntu community to get the word out about Kubuntu. The purchase of an ad in a major paper might be a good way to start, as it did help the Firefox community when they tried it. -
Re:Got what he deserved
There is plenty of software you are allowed to charge money for after you download it. Here is one example
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Re:Intuitive Gui installer
No, but apparently you can add an entire live-cd with games, a web browser and more to the installer. http://www.kubuntu.org/ I fail to see why that isn't good enough.
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Re:Let me explain Large Print and Speech software
There is no operating system that actually has speech and large print capabilities built into the core. Accessibility has always been a "bolt on" solution. In many cases, large print software and screen reading software has altered and even mangled video drivers in order to try to figure out what was being put on the screen to work with it. However, in the last few years there has been a move to incorporate the ability for third party software such as screen readers and large print software to be able to access the data in otehr apps more easily so that the text can be read by the screen readers. Unfortunately, it is still possible (and common) to run into applications that use odd ways of writing to the video cards that the large print software is unable to intercept. Therefore you will get issues such as in Microsoft Word where if you insert Word Art it is invisible when you are using large print software but visible when you disable the software.
And of course, we all hate Microsoft for being a monopoly so the adaptive technology industry is rather happy (I'm sure) that MS doesn't incorporate a useful large print and screen reader software built into the OS. Now, there is large print and speech applications built into Windows. However, they are no better than many two-bit freeware packages and are not practical for long term use if you're going to be as efficient as a sighted person at work.
I found what you had to say very interesting. However, I wonder how you define a 'operating system', since what I call an operating system (the kernel) doesn't know anything at all about the fonts and text being used by a GUI application like an office suite! I came to the conclusion that you were referring to the "desktop environment", and did some playing around with my preferred one, KDE.
My results may be of interest to you: I found that I could set all the graphical user interface font sizes in one step, and then those font sizes were used in all KDE & Qt applications. This of course means that KOffice, which is an ODF-compliant office suite, has large print support out of the box. I also found a setting for the minimum font size allowed on web pages elsewhere in the KDE Control Centre. (I actually use this anyway: I have a very high resolution monitor, and if I don't use it the text on some websites is unreadably tiny).
The latest version of KDE also appears to have a text-to-speech engine built in (another of this evening's discoveries), but I haven't tried it out.
I appreciate that not every application one might want to run is likely to use the Qt GUI toolkit, but KDE does include a *lot* of applications. With KDE + KOffice + Lyx-QT, one has a system that can do everything expected of a modern office system: instant messaging, browsing the internet, low-end and high-end document preparation, website editing, software development, system administration...
If you'd like to play around with KDE I recommend getting a copy of the Kubuntu live-CD. While I agree it might not yet be ready for blind users, it might well perform better than the equivalent Windows setup for users who require large fonts.
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Re:Missed the Memo
Apparently, you missed it. Apple's new Mac Pro is cheaper than a comparatively configured Dell workstation machine.
I trust the Dell not to have the hardware issues (I have sensitive hearing) the "Mac Pro" has. Even though I don't like Dell that much more, at least I can get hardware that works with my preferred OS (I use Kubuntu Linux). -
Re:Short answer: depends on the user.
Linux, on the other hand, may not ready just yet for the desktop. But it will one day.
If it wasn't ready before, it became ready with the release of Ubuntu 6.06. I have been searching for five years for a desktop Linux that just works — as in Grandma friendly. I tried RedHat 7.3-8.1, Debian Sarge, Knoppix, and Kanotix. All of them had their issues unless you were at least a power user. Not so with Ubuntu, or my preference, Kubuntu. I'm not saying it's perfect or will replace standard Debian or Gentoo, but if K/Ubuntu isn't ready for the desktop, then neither is Windows.
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At first...
At first I was just thinking to myself that: "I'm glad this guy is just a pundit and in no position to do anything about implementing such a cruel device of torture."
But, then he had to mention 'the monopoly' and suddenly things seemed plausible. Not a nice thought.
The thought has passed in that I need not concern myself with such matters since I have both FreeBSD and GNU/Linux experience (with Solaris 10 soon to follow).
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Re:Bologna!
I used to be a big RH fan until my personal subscription was cancelled early around the end of RH9 days. I struggled with Fedora for a while, but it was always flaky and updates seemed to break more than they fixed. I moved to Slackware... which I liked for the same reasons I really liked Gentoo -- it was easy to install packages from source; however neither of those distros is as easy to manage in a commercial setting as other more popular distros.
Then a colleague mentioned CentOS and I have not looked back. CentOS3 is still 2.4 kernel based and would be a good replacement for the older RH7x/8x/9x versions. CentOS4 is 2.6 kernel based and a great distro. I have moved everything I had from RH to CentOS and not looked back.
I even use CentOS4 on my work desktop with the KDE-RedHat repository and the Dag Wieers repository supplying packages for software that RH/CentOS do not.
I think I am going to revisit Kubuntu in the near future though, because I do like apt, I simply cannot stand Gnome (no offense - I simply prefer KDE). -
Re:Ubuntu, umm, maybe not
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Re:Painless Upgrade
I did the same thing except when i did it and rebooted as instructed on the http://kubuntu.org/ site. My raid 5 couldn't be found and my Xwindows failed to load, oh and i was off the network.
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So then i figured i would try a fresh install, but as soon as i booted the live DVD, neither of my mice,Logitech mx700 and mx510 worked.
So i had to reinstall Breezy 5.10
Needless to say im slightly disapointed in Dapper Drake -
Re:Adept
Adept is now 2.0 with many improvements:
Adept 2.0 will add the ability to find more detailed package information including a file list, relations to other packages and available information
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperPackageManag er -
Kubuntu
Kubuntu 6.06 has also been released and is fully supported by Canonical. You can download it and order free Kubuntu CDs through Shipit.
Kubuntu features the latest version of the ever popular and advanced K Desktop Environment, which has killer apps such as the AmaroK music player, the Kaffeine movie player, the Konqueror file manager and web browser, and the KOffice suite. -
Kubuntu
Kubuntu 6.06 has also been released and is fully supported by Canonical. You can download it and order free Kubuntu CDs through Shipit.
Kubuntu features the latest version of the ever popular and advanced K Desktop Environment, which has killer apps such as the AmaroK music player, the Kaffeine movie player, the Konqueror file manager and web browser, and the KOffice suite. -
Kubuntu
Kubuntu 6.06 has also been released and is fully supported by Canonical. You can download it and order free Kubuntu CDs through Shipit.
Kubuntu features the latest version of the ever popular and advanced K Desktop Environment, which has killer apps such as the AmaroK music player, the Kaffeine movie player, the Konqueror file manager and web browser, and the KOffice suite. -
Kubuntu
Kubuntu 6.06 has also been released and is fully supported by Canonical. You can download it and order free Kubuntu CDs through Shipit.
Kubuntu features the latest version of the ever popular and advanced K Desktop Environment, which has killer apps such as the AmaroK music player, the Kaffeine movie player, the Konqueror file manager and web browser, and the KOffice suite. -
Re:To convince your friends
Also, if you don't want the hassle of installing with GNOME and changing to KDE, you can order Kubuntu (Ubuntu with KDE as default) Desktop CDs as well.
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Fedora's version of KDE is broken
KDE is broken in the latest Fedora release, which doesn't really surprise me given the fact that Red Hat has always had abyssmal support for KDE.
I think applications like Konqueror File Manager, K3B for burning CDs and DVDs, AmaroK for listening to music, Kaffeine for watching movies, etc are a must for a desktop computer. It's a shame that Red Hat doesn't put more resources into ensuring KDE is usable on their systems.
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Re:I don't get the point
Why in the world would I want to choose this over (U|K)buntu?
I don't know what Kbuntu is, but you might want to choose Freespire because it uses KDE instead of Ubuntu's Gnome. Or you might want to look at Kubuntu.
Some people might go with Freespire to check out the features of Linspire. I'm pretty sure there will be an upgrade path somewhere. It could well be that there are non-geek humans out there that want to try Linux, but also want corporate support backing it. Novell (SUSE) and RedHat have had reasonable success since they brought a community-driven version on the market (allthough that's not the point of Fedora, but hey...). -
Some words on the installer and Easy (K)UbuntuKubuntu (and i am pretty sure Ubuntu too) will have a graphical installer for the live cd; Espresso It will even include a GUI tool to resize and edit partitions and the default option is no longer to format the entire harddisc.
And when Automatix is concerned, EasyUbuntu has the advantage of being able to install ATI drivers (or at least they claim so) and it works for Edubuntu and Kubuntu too (though unsupported).
But you to get it to work on Kubuntu, you need some Gnome packages, so you might want to take a look at Easy Kubuntu :) .
And lastly, some explanation about all these install-apps by (one of) the maker(s) of Easy Ubuntu:
keyes
11-15-2005, 04:10 PM
If you use Kubuntu please use Easy Kubuntu (created by Olwin and Anbreizh from Ubuntu-fr in collaboration with me, they help me creating Easy Ubuntu and I help them to create Easy Kubuntu, source code is very similar). Automatix is a fork of Easy Ubuntu written by arnieboy (from ubuntuforums). Automatix is more complicated but have more features than Easy Ubuntu, it's the good choice for advanced users. Begginers must use Easy Ubuntu, it's a very easy way to set up correctly Multimedia, web and other needed things. Easy Ubuntu is very safe and don't change the default applications and behaviors of Ubuntu. -
Re:So many choices...
Uh, if you're such a huge-ass KDE fan, maybe Kubuntu? Duh.
I use the default Ubuntu, GNOME's not any worse than KDE. They both suck but so does Windows and OS X. K3B, khexedit, and a couple other minor proggys are the only worthwhile KDE apps. -
Re:Extortion
True Windows users mainly run as admin mainly because most programs require them to have that many rights.
Two of the biggest targets in Windows is Internet Explorer & Outlook which all Windows computers have at least Internet Explorer & Outlook Express. You can never truly remove either of these programs without causing major problems on the computer.
The reason Linux is even harder to target is you have several different e-mail apps to choose from & everybody isn't using the same app with the same secuirity flaw. This makes it harder to target Linux users although not impossible as I mentioned earlier. One package that seems to be in many flavors of Linux is the Apache web server which was targeted by several viruses.
So my point was Microsft would have to release 100+ different flavors of Windows that prefered a different set of software & had a different user interface. That would make it a harder target like Linux is right now, since flavors that prefer KDE for the GUI use mainly KDE apps & flavors that prefer Gnome use Gnome apps mainly. The other advantage I can think of for Linux is that because you can see the source when you post about a bug or flaw, assuming you know enough about programing, you can also include a patch for the problem. This happened with the 0-day exploit in Wine, when the flaw was posted a patch was posted at about the same time.
That is why I think making Windows safe by making it more like Linux would be bad in some ways. I think making admin right needed was a really bad idea for the programers who did it. I know that Intuit has learned from that mistake, in the 2003 version of TurboTax you needed Admin rights to install & run the program, while in the 2004 version & the 2005 version you only needed admin rights to install the app with regular user rights being enough to run it.
Windows Vista is supposed to fix the issue with users always running around as an admin evven though they almost never need it.
For an example of Linux running around as root check out Linspire Linux. Yes I know running as root is a bad idea which is why I'm considering either Kubuntu or Ubuntu when I make the switch to Linux, they both only give you sudo access & if you decided to install root support the forum users will assume you know enough to fix it yourself & will not help you other then tell you to re-install Linux, this is because running as root on that flavor of Linux causes problems if you are not an expert & know what you are doing with it.
My current problem is going to be reformating my data drives from NTFS to FAT32 without loosing any data, the reason for FAT32 is because they are external & I'd like to be able to use them on other Windows computers, currently I can because the other computers I connect them to are also running Windows XP which supports NTFS. That means I need to either move the data around & format one drive at a time or use a tool to convert the partitions. I will no longer use Partition Magic as it is now owned by the evil Symantec company. -
Re:Developing a Linux Desktop would distract us.
I wonder if google has plans to take over Ubuntu's sister project, http://www.kubuntu.org/ that is KDE based? And what would they call it? Gooooookubuntu?
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upgrade
upgrade to faster connection, switch to kubuntu (free AND secure), or anything else equally secure.
If you need (unsecure) windows for anything, use vmware player (free), or wine (free), or if you need to play games with 3D acceleration then cedega (nonfree).
Remember about http://www.openoffice.org/ for office work, http://www.gimp.org/ for drawing, http://www.k3b.org/ for burning DVDs... and the list goes on and on.
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Re:KDE vs. Gnome. Ready...FIGHT!
FYI, there is a KDE version of Ubuntu called Kubuntu http://www.kubuntu.org/. They also state how "KDE is a great platform" to develop on here: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-commitme
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Re:KDE vs. Gnome. Ready...FIGHT!
FYI, there is a KDE version of Ubuntu called Kubuntu http://www.kubuntu.org/. They also state how "KDE is a great platform" to develop on here: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-commitme
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Re:In defense of Gnome
Good point about Ubuntu. I just started using Ubuntu and found Gnome to work pretty well. After years of prefering KDE I am now using Gnome. That being said maybe it is just the way Ubuntu pieced Gnome together. Maybe if I try Kubuntu I would go back to thinking that KDE was the dogs bullocks.
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Re:Well then
Fine, so just use Kubuntu instead.
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Kubuntu packages available
KDE 3.5 packages have been released for Kubuntu http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
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http://ubuntu.com
Or, if you prefern KDE over GNOME, http://www.kubuntu.org/
No mumbo jumbo. Drop in the CD, enjoy! Enough said. -
Do *NOT* install Gentoo
While Gentoo can be an extreemly powerful and FULLY customizable distro, I found myself spending a large portion of my time compiling/tweaking/fixing my distro rather doing my work.
I've since switched to a debian-based distro (http://www.kubuntu.org/) to minimize the amount of time I spend installing/tweaking/fixing my distro. -
Re:What is new with ubuntu?
Don't blame the screenshots. After all, they do just show GNOME. GNOME is a very small part of Ubuntu. Many Ubuntu users even choose to ditch GNOME in favour of KDE (thus Kubuntu).
The main thing to focus on is the fantastic package management system, the up-to-date packages, and the overall integration of the system. It's a distro that just works, and that is exactly what a busy user needs. -
Re:Ugly Theme
If you don't like GNOME, like myself and many others, feel free to try Kubuntu. It offers all the goodness of Ubuntu, but replaces GNOME with KDE.
Of course, you can still install and use GNOME software, although I don't know why you'd want to do that when you've got the power of KDE available to you. -
Kubuntu
Kubuntu, anyone?
Kubuntu is fully free (supported by a non-profit foundation, and not tied to a commercial distro or the whims of random flailing companies), and will always use KDE, becuase it's userbase/community driven. -
Re:Best KDE-centric distro now?
Gentoo of course!! Or for easy to install and upto date releases kubuntu
;)see http://www.kubuntu.org/