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Re:Too little open source?
I can understand your concern of running only Free software. But most people want to use software based on its utility rather for principles. If you want to use only free software then you may not be use official Firefox binary package which is non-free. You may have to use IceWeasel instead.
Ubuntu separates the components based on the repository they are stored. The main repository which is the core of Ubuntu used to contain only free software. Unfortunately now the main repository also contains packages that are not free. So it is difficult to segregate between free and non free softwares based on the repository. For those who like Ubuntu and want to use only free software gNewSense is the only choice available for them. -
Anything to do with Linux hang?
Does this BIOS call have anything to do with the soft lock problem encountered by me and many other Ubuntu users? My guess is not, but I don't know enough about these things to guess with much confidence.
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Re:You don't?
The next version of Ubuntu is expected to include things like accelerated graphics drivers (not open source) and other little spiffies that are currently 'hard' to get working. The last great barrier is wifi (both configuration and support), but that's coming along, too.
I disagree. I love Linux, I love (k)Ubuntu, and I use it as much as possible. But I can't honestly claim it's ready for everyday use (and pushing it on people at the moment will probably just drive them away).
Now I'm very passionate about Open Source and so on, so I live with the deficiencies or learn how to console around them. But the average user won't have so much patience. This is things like the fact that if my network or Internet is down when I boot up, I have to "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0" in order to get it online. Like how Firefox won't open PDFs in-browser and I have to download and use KPDF. Like how I have no way to play Quicktime or WMV videos. I know Ubuntu can do all of these things if you fiddle around and tweak, but again your average user won't stand for it.
I read the Fiesty roadmap.. it looks like they're planning to improve default support for some of these things in the next version, but not all. Also I was quite looking forward to showing off the "wow" factor (to use the Vista terminology) of having a composite desktop environment installed by default, but it looks like it's been deferred.
So not yet, I don't think... one day soon. -
Re:You don't?
The next version of Ubuntu is expected to include things like accelerated graphics drivers (not open source) and other little spiffies that are currently 'hard' to get working. The last great barrier is wifi (both configuration and support), but that's coming along, too.
I disagree. I love Linux, I love (k)Ubuntu, and I use it as much as possible. But I can't honestly claim it's ready for everyday use (and pushing it on people at the moment will probably just drive them away).
Now I'm very passionate about Open Source and so on, so I live with the deficiencies or learn how to console around them. But the average user won't have so much patience. This is things like the fact that if my network or Internet is down when I boot up, I have to "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0" in order to get it online. Like how Firefox won't open PDFs in-browser and I have to download and use KPDF. Like how I have no way to play Quicktime or WMV videos. I know Ubuntu can do all of these things if you fiddle around and tweak, but again your average user won't stand for it.
I read the Fiesty roadmap.. it looks like they're planning to improve default support for some of these things in the next version, but not all. Also I was quite looking forward to showing off the "wow" factor (to use the Vista terminology) of having a composite desktop environment installed by default, but it looks like it's been deferred.
So not yet, I don't think... one day soon. -
Re:Good News?
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Re:i see a naming conflict on the horizon...
Falcon is actually already an APT repository generator, look: https://launchpad.net/falcon
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Re:Python Bites my OO.o
I think you really meant to post here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs -
Re:Whatever.
OOo may not be part of the standard install on Ubuntu for too much longer. It is a listed goal (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/
+ spec/kubuntu-koffice-by-default) to replace it by KOffice in Kubuntu and there have been discussions about using GNOME Office in the standard Ubuntu install. I don't know that OOo is the unstoppable force you're suggesting it is. -
Core 2 Duo/JMicron Issues AGAIN
Here's a repost of my 2 or 3 whinges about a serious issue with Ubuntu that no-one on
/. seems to care about.
Seriously out of all the millions of /. readers I can't believe not even a single person has posted regarding the whole Core 2 Duo/JMicron thing (and yes I did a discussion search).
For more information:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68612
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux -source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28568 3&page=2 -
Core 2 Duo/JMicron Issues AGAIN
Here's a repost of my 2 or 3 whinges about a serious issue with Ubuntu that no-one on
/. seems to care about.
Seriously out of all the millions of /. readers I can't believe not even a single person has posted regarding the whole Core 2 Duo/JMicron thing (and yes I did a discussion search).
For more information:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68612
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux -source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28568 3&page=2 -
Core 2 Duo for God's Sake!!!
Seriously out of all the millions of
/. readers I can't believe not even a single person has posted regarding the whole Core 2 Duo/JMicron thing (and yes I did a discussion search).
For more information:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68612
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux -source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28568 3&page=2 -
Core 2 Duo for God's Sake!!!
Seriously out of all the millions of
/. readers I can't believe not even a single person has posted regarding the whole Core 2 Duo/JMicron thing (and yes I did a discussion search).
For more information:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68612
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux -source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28568 3&page=2 -
Re:My impression
If anyone is curious, I narrowed down the bug. It seems to only occur under particular circumstances (see comment in the bugreport; basically, it occurs only when your homepage is set to an empty string).
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Re:My impression
The ability to close and continue sessions later removes a major reason why many people kept their browsers open for long periods of time. Before when you close your browser you had to open your tabs again and get it in the same configuration, now it goes to being the same as before immidiately.
I'm running a fresh install of Ubuntu Edgy here, with Firefox 2.0. The feature you mention doesn't work, sadly; I filed a bug. Of course, this could be some freak issue with my particular installation (although it is a clean install from 48 hours ago), or with Edgy, and not Mozilla's fault. -
Issues in Edgy.I got my FF2 with Edgy and it's a great program. It feels much faster although I haven't benchmarked it. It looks great and it is my preferred browser by far.
Unfortunatly I've had some issues with it. Perhaps it's Ubuntus fault, but still. It's issues with FF for me.
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firef ox/+bug/68586
That's one. The browser just "closes" on some pages. That's the major one actually.
Also, they've changed so that ctrl-tab no longer switches tab (in kubuntu) but changes virtual desktop.
Come to think of it, none of the issues are probably firefox issues.
Hmm...
Forget I said anything. Firefox2 is a great browser. Keep up the good work. .haeger -
Re:Some early impressions
Yeah, of course it works fine in Dapper, I am talking about Edgy. Here is the bug report: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnom
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Re:Et tu, Kubuntu?
Unfortunately, Xubuntu Eft seems to have a bug upgrading from Dapper, at least with the with the update-manager. I'm not sure if using the aptitude/apt-get method works any better. I believe you can burn the image to a CD and insert it and Xubuntu will ask you if you want to upgrade. Or you can probably mount the iso and add it to your repository to upgrade, as per an earlier post in this discussion.
Luckily Automatix seems to be ready for Eft, even if EasyUbuntu's site is down at the moment. -
Logitech QuickCam 4000 Pro support is broken....
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linu
x -source-2.6.17/+bug/56090
And it was working in dapper :-( -
Re:Will it solve The Problem?
That is a really weird bug. You should try searching http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs/ for similar bugs already filed. I've not had that happen to me with my usb thumb drive. Ubuntu uses hal, dbus and pmount to make dynamic mounts accessible to the current desktop user. What that means is plug something in, and it sets the "owner" to whoever is currently using the computer.
The best way to find out and/or fix this problem is to file a bug and be prepared to answer questions about your installation. -
Re:Edgy wireless proglems
Because you use the forums, which are inappropriate for getting information reguarding bugs to developers? Launchpad bug tracking provides a way for INTERESTED people to be AUTOMATICALLY notified whenever a RELEVANT bug is filed. The forums are simply inadequate to connect the various people holding parts of the puzzle, despite the valiant efforts of folk like Sarah Hobbs.
I realize your wifi may have been the only connection with the internet, but has the initramfs shipped with edgy today fixed it, as suggested in the relevant bug report? Development versions are exactly that, and critical fixes can come in until almost the very last minute.
I suppose the other good news is that dapper will be supported for a long time, so you have at least that to work with. -
I hope the S3 video driver works this time
There's a bug since 6.06 in the S3 driver that comes from xserver-xorg 7.0
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserv er-xorg-video-s3/+bug/33504
I hope the patch works this time. -
This was sorely needed
The old flash player had some horrible issues with sound output that actually made firefox suck.
This has been a problem at Ubuntu and I guess others.
I work with a web-based application and usually watching any YouTube video would crash my entire browser session. -
the *Ubuntu* post on Overwrite mbrYour friendly Ubuntu post is here
;)Ubuntu isn't much different either: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub
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its grub doesn't like other distros either.But this is not to say that Windows' "overwrite mbr" isn't a bug...
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Re:Zomg? CD Keys?
Wow, a piece of software (In this case the WGA servers) had a glitch, I am totally amazed. When are we going to finally get software that never ever screws up and affects a large amount of people and companies? This never happens with F/OSS! There are plenty of bugs that are hunted and eliminated on a daily basis in many projects. I'm not saying Linux or F/OSS sucks, because quite frankly I'm eagerly awaiting my next purchase of a hard drive so I can get my Gentoo installed again (Maybe even take a look at the latest Slackware since it's been a while, but probably Gentoo). I'm just saying you can't expect software to be perfect. In Microsoft's case though, if they don't patch bugs people bitch. If they do patch bugs people bitch even more. Bart Simpson said it best, " Well... You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.".
As an aside, people running rolling distributions like Gentoo that don't have as tight a security/stability screening process that, say, Debian does, are at even greater risk than most other Linux users of royally screwing their computer if they end up getting bit by a nasty bug in some random piece of software. I always tell people looking for filesystem choice advice, for example, to avoid finding their answers in something like the Gentoo Forums (Great for many other things though), since it's pretty easy to FUBAR things when you think you're a hotshot putting all your critical data on bleeding edge code, then calling a project crap because you got cut.
By and large, though, if you don't steal, the measures don't bother you. And if you do steal, the measures don't bother you, unless you are noobcake.
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I hope they use the standard browser
This bug clearly shows why Debian/Ubuntu shouldn't muck with the browser's source code. I wonder what additional functionality they add besides disabling the 'Check for updates' button.
And of course security updates. It would benefit everyone if they just send patches upstream.
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firef ox/+bug/64844
I hope ubuntu sticks with the vanilla browser. -
Re:When Firefox ceases to be Firefox...
Yeah, as somebody who randomly hangs out on irc://irc.mozilla.org/firefox
... We try to support everyone, but sometimes we just get really confused by patched builds.
For example, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firef ox/+bug/33840 - this is Debian (and from there Ubuntu) specific and doesn't happen with Firefox builds from mozilla.com (on the same system). -
Perfect sample of a new Ubuntu user
Thanks, you are a perfect sample where Ubuntu gets its new users. Ubuntu draws its increasing user base from other Linux distributions but sadly not from Windows. So while Ubuntu is growing and is on the way to become the major Linux distribution, it still fails to overcome its own Ubuntu Bug #1 (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1).
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Get Proactive!It's a shame that Ubuntu's initiative is rated as Low Priority, as certain easily-taken steps can practically stop two of the most common forms of exploits - buffer and stack overflows - in their tracks.
Why are we making life so much easier for crackers?
I pick on Ubuntu in particular as it is by a large margin the most popular desktop Linux distro.
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Re:Finally!
Users will continue to click on the (unlabelled) blue world icon to start a web browser, just as they have always done.
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Re:It is Desktop ready...Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake and ATi Xn00- and X1n00-series graphics accelerators in laptop computers fail because of a stupid setting in xorg.conf that turns off your notebook's LCD screen straight away. xorg.conf needs
Option MonitorLayout "LVDS,AUTO"
which I believe to be causing bugs that appear as #22985 and #35601 among others. The initial rollout of Dapper has this problem but it may be fied in subsequent editions because 6.06 is a five-year long-term-supported edition of Ubuntu. You may need to register with Launchpad.net to see the bug reports. -
Re:It is Desktop ready...Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake and ATi Xn00- and X1n00-series graphics accelerators in laptop computers fail because of a stupid setting in xorg.conf that turns off your notebook's LCD screen straight away. xorg.conf needs
Option MonitorLayout "LVDS,AUTO"
which I believe to be causing bugs that appear as #22985 and #35601 among others. The initial rollout of Dapper has this problem but it may be fied in subsequent editions because 6.06 is a five-year long-term-supported edition of Ubuntu. You may need to register with Launchpad.net to see the bug reports. -
Re:a mile away
Good point. Businesses are adopting Linux rapidly. That's why I'm using it - as an EDA developer for work.
However, a major problem for Linux is the natural tension between businesses and the free software movement. OSS is threatening big software money. See:
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
Oddly enough, business managers don't like using stuff that threatens business. Funny how that works.
The name "Ubunutu" is unfortunate. Managers naturally ask me what it means when I recommend it, and the feel-good granola-crunchy meaning reinforces their feeling that I'm a granola-crunchy sort of guy promoting software written by acid-inspired junkies.
The home market is MUCH more promising, since most of those kids at home are busy downloading free stuff illegally anyway. They are on the side of free stuff, and love to stick it to the man. An OS for free? Sure thing! Kill Microsoft? Sign me up! It wont run the latest first-person shooter? Um... maybe not.
So, neither the business nor the home markets are truely open to Linux. Solving the game problem would do the trick for the home market, but that's not likely to happen. How can we ever get businesses to buy into anti-business software? It may be doable, but moving that mountain will take time. -
Re:Doo?
Ubuntu runs well and upgrades as gracefully as Debian.
Not really true. Upgrading from woody to sarge (which is a HUGE upgrade) resultet in no big problems for me on my desktop. Upgrading from 5.10 to 6.06 resultet in: -Wlan not working (freezing the whole system -> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux -source-2.6.15/+bug/35474 ) -Sound-system has some incredible lags (~2 seconds) Funny thing is, there are three ways to fix the wlan; however, the fixes will not be included in 6.06. Perhaps i will be lucky with 6.10, but till then, Debian testing is my distro of choice. -
A few things me likeyJust skimming the specs of some of the new things implimented:
- Optimized Live CD layout for faster boot
- Thin clients local device support
- Using dash instead of bash which makes the boot, "30s faster"
- updated Galago
- much faster shutdown process
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Re:Well, if you really want to
True, but Ubuntu has Mark Shuttleworth. Mark Shuttleworth brings two things to Ubuntu that most other distributions don't have: money and ambition. Just look at Ubuntu bug #1 - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1.
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Re:QA at Ubuntu?
...or finally fix that dreaded overheating problem that has been plaging Ubuntu for more than a year. Until now the best thing that they could come up with is the information that SUSE doesn't suffer from that problem. If they really want their users to switch...
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Re:OMFGI'm trying to find some kind of a side job that pays whatever money, and has deadlines
Doesn't sound like pitching in to an open-source project would really be your thing. It's rare to find one that runs on any sort of stringent deadlines, and rarer still to find one that pays.
I do have a few suggestions in the line of open source work, though. If you'd like to earn some money, you could try looking for exploits in Firefox and earn $500 a pop with Mozilla's Bug Bounty program. In addition, Launchpad lists a number of other open-source bounties for various projects.
If you're looking for something more formal, check Craigslist. Under the 'gigs' -> 'computer' section of your city, you should see a bunch of small projects people are looking to have done. Most of 'em are web design work, though I see a fair amount of DB programming, C++/Java etc. work offered. If you have a decent resume, it shouldn't be too hard to land one of those gigs on the side.
Just keep in mind that a lot of fairly small projects that you could do on the side for a fee could also be outsourced for a fraction of the cost. Working locally through Craigslist gigs is a great way to steer clear of that trap.
Shameless plug -- I'm currently trying to write a website about earning money on the side.
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STFW?
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Re:links?Sure enough: Here's the bug (#47371) which includes a description of what's going on... And this Ubuntu Forums discussion has a fix that worked for me.
It sounds like for all of these regressions enabling the "ati" driver in xorg.conf will fix the major issues. Of course, the problem then is that you're running the ati driver, not the fglrx driver, which actually comes from ATI. (Confusing as hell, I know).
You should see something like this in /etc/X11/xorg.confSection "Device"
If you first do (to make a backup of the xorg.conf file*)
Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000 Pro]"
Driver "fglrx"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSectionsudo cp
and then use your favorite text editor (with sudo) to change where it says "fglrx" to "ati" (make sure you DO have the quotes in there), then you should be running off the ATI driver which installs by default in Ubuntu. /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
Until such time as ATI gets their damn fglrx drivers in line and fixes that regression, it seems like using the open source driver is the easiest alternative.
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* - Sorry if this is totally pedantic, but you can reverse the effects of any bad edits you make to xorg.conf by the following command:sudo cp
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Re:Atheros worked for me
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linu
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Re:Me experiences
its the atheros firmware shipped with dapper. its a bug, fix here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linu
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Re:But there are so many bugs...!
Bugs, bugs, bugs, I can't get enough of them. On my fresh Dapper install a lot of stuff is just broken. The worst part about this is the fact that devs knew about this before the release and yet they decided to ignore this and fix it later even though they could release it on 30.6.2006 without breaking promises. For example, Azureus is completly broken , Krusader crashes all the time, smb/nfs/ssh over Nautilus is very unstable, video playback on many Intel integrated graphics is oversaturated... I could go on. Dapper was released too early. I wonder why did they release a RC version if they didn't care about fixing anything.
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Good for desktops, bad for certain laptops.
On May 29th, two days before release, an ATI bug was introduced via the xorg driver that makes Dapper unstable on certain ATI based systems. In my own case this means that my G4 is now unusable. Just as a reminder, if you think you might be affected, don't upgrade.
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But there are so many bugs...!For a release that was deleyed to make everything smooth and working as expected, I find that there are so many bugs! Not that I do not epect any bugs at all, but their number is so great.
Just have a lookat those assigned to the Kubuntu team...
https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+assign
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Re:Careful when Upgrading
Actually there are a few more problems than that on the mac (especially older G4's), i haven't been able to use any of the RC's on my 867mhz Quicksilver due to kernel issues during the boot cycle - more here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linu
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Re:Installable on an external firewire disk?
You can search for it
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Re:Crying Shame!
Well, looking at bug #1, I do think they try.
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Careful when Upgrading
As a Dapper user since before it was cool I'd like to warn everyone using Apple products, especially iBooks and other slightly more supported hardware, against upgrading just yet. A severe bug was introduced having to do with the ATI cards in laptops on May 29 that causes persistant systems freezes. (Why would you upgrade all of xorg two days before release?) The errors are unrecoverable and require a system reboot. There hasn't been much in the way of response, as everyone seems to be celebrating the release of Dapper.
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Re:Are you serious?
I had the same problem starting when I moved my Breezy box to Dapper. According to the bug report, it's been fixed.
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Re:Not ready for prime time (parent troll?)
I wouldn't call Ubuntu's release schedule 'aggressive', since other community distributions, namely Fedora and OpenSuse also follow a 6-month-ish schedule. As for stability, the beta version of OpenSuse 10.1 would not install on my laptop, but I've been running Dapper Drake for a month on it, with all the hardware configured correctly. So, from my perspective, Dapper is better.
I point your attention to Bug \#1 from Ubuntu's tracker