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Why it's a slippery slopeReaders of the Congressional Register will recognize the following future threats to free speech and free commerce online, which had been held up in committee until the Supreme Court ruled on the COPA:
- H.R. 4239, which makes it a felony to distribute any kind of sexually explicit material to a user who does not register with a government-sanctioned age verification service (like AdultCheck).
- H.R. 4551, which outlaws the creation and distribution of "electronic burglary devices" such as system cracking scripts and port scanners.
- H.R. 4608, which taxes all sales of goods over the internet that originate overseas.
- H.R. 4277, which requires all ISPs to keep 6 months of records of all user activity and give law enforcement access to the records without a court order.
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Re:Time to destroy hollings
The Libertarian Party runs a candidate in just about every district for US House Members and US Senate Members. They would never support anything like this and they would vastly reduce the size of government as well (a great second benefit). Change requires action on your part.
Randy Overbeck - What if Congress were measured not by the laws they passed but by the laws they repealed? After all we are told countless times that we are the freest country in the world. -
Re:The Constitution IS Enough, If it isn't Ignored
Join the Libertarian Party. We are doing exactly what you suggest. You can change things but it requires action.
Randy Overbeck -
Join the Libertarian Party
Get the leftists and big-government Republicans out of office. Join the Libertarian Party.
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Re:Get Out of My Head
A great first step is to join the only political party that is fighting for this very thing: The
Libertarian Party .
Randy Overbeck
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Re:Bzzzt? If not the patent-holder, then who?Enforcement is 9/10 of the law.
Oh no! Possession is 9/10 of the law, and now Enforcement is 9/10 of the law, that means there's 18/10 of the law! Aaaiiieeee.... Somebody, help! We have too many laws already without having 180% of them!
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Re:Technicalities
Isn't Rogan also one of those Republican party hacks who was very active in the House's prosecution of Clinton's impeachment?
That's one way of putting it, but from everything I've seen/read/heard about Rogan, he's a reasonable fellow. If I remember correctly, he was involved in the impeachment process because of his qualifications as a lawyer. It cost him his seat in Congress, if it makes you feel any better. One of those principle/duty versus practicality things. Doesn't bode well for those who think he's paid for.
Before you get on your high horse, you would do well to remember that it was your pal Slick Willie who signed the DMCA into law.
And Senator Foghorn Leghorn (Fritzie Hollings, the junior senator from South Carolina) is a Democrat, too. That said, there are many Republicans who support this bill. Would the president sign it if it got to his desk? Probably, unfortunately. Bill's biggest opponent in Congress? Patrick Leahy, a Democrat.
I think a big problem we've got here is that this isn't the kind of bill that's got the run-of-the mill congressman (like my undistinguished one) interested -- they'll vote whichever way the party leadership tells them to. Letters might help, but I think this is something that somebody important is going to have to pickup on, and sway quite a few votes. I'd focus on the senators whose states have the most to lose by open source development being hurt....
John Edwards and Jesse Helms, North Carolina
John Warner and George Allen, Virginia
Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton, New York
and so on....
And I'm not a member of either party...I belong to one of those third, so-called unimportant ones. If you're interested....click here. -
Here's a better solution.Privatize NASA
This is how NASA should be making its money:
- Royalties off of all inventions.
- Fees to manufacture, launch, and maintiain corporate satellites.
- All Government agencies that benefit from NASA pay NASA from their budget, and demand competitive bids for services, just like defense contractors.
- Drive profits from above revenue streams into R&D.
- Royalties off of all inventions.
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third parties> In these 13 words, you've just summed up everything that's wrong with our
... ...two-party, winner-take-all political system.Part of the problem is the electoral system. It needs reform. There are better processes: IRV (instant runoff voting); approval voting and PR (proportional representation for multi-candidate legislative districts); the use of NOTA (none of the above) on ballots; etc. See http://ny.lp.org/issues/election_reform.htm for more info about those.
Yes, Libertarians and other third parties have what you like about the D's (certain freedoms) and what you might like about the R's (fiscal responsibility). For the most part, they just mean what the Republicans say but don't implement: smaller government, true freedom--'hands-off' of anyone not hurting anyone else. But Libertarians recruit at Gay Pride and Marijuana Marches (May 4th, worldwide!), which is how it's so easy to tell them apart from Republicans/Conservatives. They are also 100% with the 'geek lobby' on cyber and privacy issues, unlike either of the two major parties. They don't want to tax OR regulate the internet.
It's NOT hopeless or out of your control, which is the sense I'm getting from this thread. Get active. Get involved. We are fortunate to live in the age of the Information Revolution--don't waste it.
For those who trend communist (voluntary, hopefully), go Green. Otherwise, support your local Libertarian Party (in the U.S., Costa Rica, and other counties), which is the closest thing to anarchism that you can vote for.
http://www.lp.org/
http://www.gpus.org/Please--our future depends on it.
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third parties> In these 13 words, you've just summed up everything that's wrong with our
... ...two-party, winner-take-all political system.Part of the problem is the electoral system. It needs reform. There are better processes: IRV (instant runoff voting); approval voting and PR (proportional representation for multi-candidate legislative districts); the use of NOTA (none of the above) on ballots; etc. See http://ny.lp.org/issues/election_reform.htm for more info about those.
Yes, Libertarians and other third parties have what you like about the D's (certain freedoms) and what you might like about the R's (fiscal responsibility). For the most part, they just mean what the Republicans say but don't implement: smaller government, true freedom--'hands-off' of anyone not hurting anyone else. But Libertarians recruit at Gay Pride and Marijuana Marches (May 4th, worldwide!), which is how it's so easy to tell them apart from Republicans/Conservatives. They are also 100% with the 'geek lobby' on cyber and privacy issues, unlike either of the two major parties. They don't want to tax OR regulate the internet.
It's NOT hopeless or out of your control, which is the sense I'm getting from this thread. Get active. Get involved. We are fortunate to live in the age of the Information Revolution--don't waste it.
For those who trend communist (voluntary, hopefully), go Green. Otherwise, support your local Libertarian Party (in the U.S., Costa Rica, and other counties), which is the closest thing to anarchism that you can vote for.
http://www.lp.org/
http://www.gpus.org/Please--our future depends on it.
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Re:Just question
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Re:Ummm...
Not if I can help it. http://www.lp.org
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Re:NO NO NO
Ok.. I've attemped to defend my position for over 40 minutes now and I've been bailing out the Titanic with a teaspoon..
I've made arguments against so many socialist in that last 40 minutes you've exhausted me...
If you disagree with me please read through my thread and read some of my responses...
If you still don't agree with me and wish to learn more on my position here is a list of reading materials if you are intrested.
Libertarian Party
The Mises Institute for Libertarian and Classical Economic Studies
Free-Market Network (Libertarianism & Economics)
A Little Bit Crazy Libertarian Lew Rockwell
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Re:just a bit more proof
OK, you're trolling, but I'll bite. Actually, I am a member of the Libertarian Party, and I pay more in taxes than I care to think about. I object less to the money than I do to the relentless quest for more and more of my money, and the intrusive and tyrannical rules that come with it. (For example, why should the government be able to look through my bank account, or keep me from taking large amounts of cash out of the country?) That said, when 50% of the people can vote, but pay no taxes, how can taxation possibly be representative? Something like 1/3 of the taxes are paid by 1/20 of the people. The voting/untaxed mass far exceeds the voting/heavily-taxed mass.
And no, I don't own a gun. I have small children around the house, and no immediate need to kill government officials to secure my natural rights.
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NO NO NO
My gosh... These things are just simply insane to me..
This is simple economics....
There is a market for DSL, wireless, and Cable. The government does not need to stick their foot into this market to make it work. As Adam Smith said, the 'invisible hand' will give these people their last mile connectivity.
By forcing them to move into market that is not profitable you are simply going to increase the price so that the people that you are trying to help aren't going to be able to afford it. (Not to mention the fact that everyone is at a net loss because of the added tax)
It IS NOT, repeat IS NOT governments job to force the economy into any position what so ever. If a company can figure out how to make these connections profitable they will, thanks to the 'invisible hand', and the company wins, the consumer wins, the economy wins, and it was all done without a negative effect. So how simple that works.
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Re:It's the Republicans!
Nice, Slashocrat.
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I would be a Republican, but I dont want forced Religion.
I would be a Democrat, but I dont want political correctness.
I would be a Libertarian, if they could win.
Maybe a Party already exists with Slashdot values.
* WASHINGTON, DC -- A new federal regulation that turns every cellular phone into a "homing beacon" -- and allows the government to pinpoint the exact location of a phone call -- is an ominous development with troubling implications for privacy, the Libertarian Party said today.
* The Libertarian Party joined with thousands of concerned Internet users in "turning its web pages black" in protest of President Clinton's signing the unconstitutional "Communications Decency Act" in 1995.
* The Libertarian Party continues to speak out today against the attempts by Democrats and Republicans to find loop-holes in the First Amendment, so they can turn the Internet into a government-controlled medium.
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Get involved in politics. YES SERIOUSLY...Time to elect some libertarians....
I was pleasantly surprised to see the Libertarian Party release a press release entitled "New copyright protection bill would turn government into entertainment 'rent-a-cop'" talking about the CBDTPA, and basically pounding a million holes in it, in typical libertarian-style.
I just noticed that the party is also yelling about the campaign finance reform law. Cool.
If you're seriously upset about the way that government is being run and the laws that are being passed, by all means get involved. The only way we're going to win this is by getting the people passing these laws out of office. Take an active stance on issues. Let you congressmen know how you feel. Consider running for office yourself (yes you can do that) or helping with a campaign, even if it just a local office or state senator/representative, etc..
Personally, I've found that the Libertarian party is the closest to how I do about the way things should be run - specifically that the government should keep their noses out of our lives. Their views may or may not be in line with yours. Do some research and figure out where you feel you're making a contribution. But get involved. If all you do is gripe on slashdot every once in a while you're not making an impact.
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Get involved in politics. YES SERIOUSLY...Time to elect some libertarians....
I was pleasantly surprised to see the Libertarian Party release a press release entitled "New copyright protection bill would turn government into entertainment 'rent-a-cop'" talking about the CBDTPA, and basically pounding a million holes in it, in typical libertarian-style.
I just noticed that the party is also yelling about the campaign finance reform law. Cool.
If you're seriously upset about the way that government is being run and the laws that are being passed, by all means get involved. The only way we're going to win this is by getting the people passing these laws out of office. Take an active stance on issues. Let you congressmen know how you feel. Consider running for office yourself (yes you can do that) or helping with a campaign, even if it just a local office or state senator/representative, etc..
Personally, I've found that the Libertarian party is the closest to how I do about the way things should be run - specifically that the government should keep their noses out of our lives. Their views may or may not be in line with yours. Do some research and figure out where you feel you're making a contribution. But get involved. If all you do is gripe on slashdot every once in a while you're not making an impact.
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Re:In other news...
97.4% of slashdot users, the popular Microsoft bashing site, are using Internet Explorer.
And 99.9% of visitors to the Libertarian Party website, the popular income tax bashing site, pay income tax.
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Re:Democrats no longer Populists?
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Re:Come on
When are we going to trust the government.
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Re:Give thanks to Democrats, Republicans, Greens,
Whatever. Do you know how fookin' stupid you sound?
Certainly less than you do. Your use of slang such as "cuz" and "fookin'" and your dismissal of arguments with the churlish "whatever" stands testament to that. Improving your vocabulary and grammar would do wonders for your argument. As is, you come off like a young, immature, arrogant punk.
Do you even know anything about Jello Biafra?
Yes, I used to be a big DK fan back in the days when I was young and used to know everything. And I know of his spoken word albums as well. I decided it would be a waste of my time to listen to them since everything that seems to come out of his mouth is decidedly leftist.
May I turn the tables and ask if you know anything about Harry Browne or Barry Goldwater?
The Libertarian approach is to let capitalists use law (and therefore "the deadly force of government") as a crutch to prop up their exploitation of the land and workers,
No, it isn't. Perhaps you should read about the Libertarian party before you spout off about it. Furthermore, define "exploit." I guarantee you can't define it without some kind moralism slipping in there.
I don't know why I even bother to vote
Because lawmakers routinely make laws that govern your freedoms. You are an idiot if you don't vote.
all business executives now considered royalty, workers are of course "free" to work their ass to the bone in factories that poison their neighborhoods for 80 hours a week.
More inaccurate garbage. Perhaps reading up on the Libertarians' position on environmental issues would be helpful to you.
I don't understand where you get the idea that the government is the savior of the "working man." Do you ignore the fact that 180 million people have been killed by their own governments in the past 100 years? -
(OT)When you cross Libertarians with Greens
On the political spectrum, the Green Party is about as far away from Libertarianism (and Republicanism) as two parties can get.
What do you get when you cross the Libertarian Party with the Green Party?
A quick Google search turns up the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party.
Godwin's Law, offtopic discussion ended. Let's get back to talking about ACPI.
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Give thanks to Democrats, Republicans, Greens, etc
Here's yet another reason why increasing the size and power of Government will only deteriorate the rights of the common man. These anti-speech measures will only increase in number as long as the average person votes for the three parties above.
Advocating liberty means supporting the decrease of big government. Stop asking for handouts, no matter what type (corporate subsidies, welfare, social security, etc) because those handouts come with reductions in our rights, like the big corporations want. If you want to end these ludicrous and obviously unconstitutional laws, then vote for the only party that advocates disassembling any law that is unconstitutional: the Libertarian Party.
I hate being a broken record, but ALL these laws (SSSCA, DMCA, etc) are unconstitutional, but as long as Congress is more powerful than the Constitution allows, they will never be repealed.
My view on copy protection: let manufacturers make an unbreakable copy protection scheme if they want. Let hardware developers get in bed with software developers. But DO NOT LET THEM have laws that prevent reverse engineering. Do let the free market consumer power choose between an encrypted uncopyable format, and possibly an open format advocated by another group of software publishers.
As long as we allow the RIAA and MPAA and other large organizations lobby Congress to overextend Congressional power, we'll always be victims. The free market works, but only if you get government out of it.
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Re:Again...
What is it going to take for us to work and get people into office who will actually try to change things, instead of sending yet another stream of RepubliCrats in to keep the system going exactly like it is?
Well, for starters, check out the Libertarian Party. They are the real alternative to the "big two"; who are essentially just opposite sides of the same coin. -
Is it immoral to take money for search results?
It feels unethical to me for a search engine to take money for top spots. I'm not saying it should be illegal, don't get me wrong - I'm as libertarian as the next guy - but it feels somewhere between sleazy and fraudulent.
Imagine if you called directory assistance and asked for the number for Burger King, and they instead gave you the number for McDonalds (since McDonalds paid a hefty sum), and then only after a pause gave you Burger King's number. Or if Channel 5 listed the top ten films at the box office, and showed you all Paramount films as being at the top (since Paramount paid Channel 5). It's dishonest.
So what can we do about it? Use Google instead. And click their ads occasionally.
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Re:The core problem
Check out this advertisement (PDF format for easy printing!) placed by the Libertarian Party in the USA Today and Washington Times.
The ad shows a huge blowup of the face of Drug Czar John Walters, and states: "This week, I had lunch with the President, testified before Congress, and helped funnel $40 million in illegal drug money to groups like the Taliban."
Right on target.
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Re:That's an interesting pointthe drug war industry is massive
Yep. Dig this ad run by the Libertarian Party parodying the ridiculous recent ads equating drug use with terrorism. It ran full page in the Washington Post & USA Today (!) today. Right to the point.
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Re:What's hate speech?
These laws don't need to be extended.
I concede that this may be the weakest point to my argument, but if you look at the last fifty years or so, government control of freedom has really gotten out of hand, thanks to an apathetic populace and the seemingly perpetual increase in the size of government. This seems to me another step in that direction. Look at the DMCA, SSSCA, this proposition, and the like. Who would've thought in 1947 that the greatest enemy to freedom worldwide would change from the Communists to ourselves?
<plug type=shameless>This is why I'm a Libertarian. I may not agree with everything they say, but I believe that when I'm actually fighting with them on those points on some larger more relevant scale, society will be far better off indeed.</plug>
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Re:A system without passwords
Except our government doesn't mind when we seek alternative political points of view, there's does, in fact they kill people over it. Thats the difference. As for a major dissent movment, the simple fact that we live in a democracy means that any such movement can simply be expressed on election day. See here and here for examples. As for forien news sources, this one is quite popular. And although this one isn't forien, its quite un biased compaired to the other major news outlets.
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Re:Don't like corporate-controlled gov't policy?Precisely. Until we have people in power who don't explicitly want to rape the world for their own benefit then "WE THE PEOPLE" are getting the shaft. I admit I was lax to start voting, but now that I do I look for a Libertarian option every time. If there is no Libertarian option then I research the individuals and vote for the one who comes closest to my ideals.. or write in if possible.
For those who don't know what the Libertarian party stands for, check here The Libertarian Option. Basically, the words less government should appeal to most. I personally want the government out of my reading, viewing, bedroom, and several other places they don't really belong. Their primary goal should be to defend MY RIGHTS and my life as given by (insert religious figure), God in my case, and the Constitution of the United States. It doesn't seem they are doing that anymore.. are they?
Vote people, vote. We can no longer afford to think it will get better or the masses will vote them out when they screw up. It isn't happening. The masses aren't as informed as they should be - until it is too late.
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Re:And, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
Couldn't have said it better myself. In fact, I've been saying this alot lately.
- just say NO to publicly-funded campaigns
- plausible alternative to finance reform (thread), with further elaboration
- another plausible alternative for limiting government
Of course, the best way to limit government is to de-fund it. Without a ridiculously inflated budget, gov't couldn't afford to trample our lives. Why won't the IRS and DoJ answer a few simple questions?
Only two "major" parties advocate Constitutionally-limited government: the CP and LP. I hope you're voting for them.
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just say NO to publicly-funded campaigns
Until we get rid of campaign contributions and begin doing public funding of campaigns
That's about the worst thing that could happen. Who gets this public money? Anybody that throws his hat in the ring, including my neighbor Jim-Bob who's just doing it for the cash? How do you decide who qualifies, and how it's apportioned? If it's based on previous elections, you've just decided to keep incumbent parties in office forever, which is precisely the current problem. What about third parties? What about people (like me) who object to subsidizing views I don't agree with? Or apolitical types who don't want to fund politicians at all? Why should you steal from (tax) them for politicians' gain? Thomas Jefferson said, "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Some of us still believe that. If I want to support X's campaign, I will...but I don't expect you to, nor would I force you to. If you want to support his opponent Y, you can go ahead, but don't expect or force me to help you.
(The Constitution and Libertarian parties refuse to accept any government money they qualify for on this principle. Rare to find a candidate that is willing to stand on principles these days.)
What we need is not campaign finance reform but electoral process reform. I should be able to give unlimited support to support the views I agree with. There should be no caps, no spending limits. However, current electoral process favors the incumbent Duopoly and discourages third parties. Why are they called "third" parties? Because plurality voting exposes a false sense of a two-party system! Ever heard of the "wasted vote" problem, or voting for "the lesser of two evils"? We should not have to choose between two evils! Condorcet voting gives every contender a fair chance, because voters' freedom of conscience is preserved.
Changing to the Condorcet method would be the single best thing that could happen to American politics. I don't see reforms like this happening any time soon. The entrenched parties have too much to lose, so they're not likely to make it easier to defeat them. But something must be done.
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Re:Political Messages and Terrorist Threats
He has had opinions which are essentially threats towards our government and country. Crime.
First off, our government and our contry are two very different things. Our country was founded on principles of liberty, our government is a collection of power hungry whores who will sell anything to anyone for the right campaign contributions. And who love nothing more than increasing their own power by limiting our rights.
Second off, it scares me that someone would actually say that having opinions is a crime!
In a couple of weeks many of us will be spending a Monday relaxing in honor of some men who had anti government opinions (Thomas Jefferson, George Washington). Every summer we shoot off fireworks to celebrate their anti-government opinions and violent revolution.
The first step of a fascist government is to restrict the ways people can oppose it by banning guns, labeling dissenters as traitors or terrorists, etc.
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Re:Fantastic
One thing you'll be able to look forward to: fewer sock puppet commercials, more anti-terror commercials.
Those aren't anti-terrorist commercials! They're anti-drug/anti-personal-freedom commercials!
They're taxpayer-funded government propaganda designed to fool people into thinking that users of ilegal drugs are somehow supporting terrorism. In reality, the only actual drug/terror link would be in opium-related narcotics (ie heroin), but I don't expect the super bowl ads will mention that. I also don't imagine they'll mention that opium exports from Afghanistan have increased since the Taliban was ousted, namely because the Taliban had (at our request) banned farmers from growing opium. No, these ads will just say that drug users support terrorists.
Personally, I'm 100% certain that when I buy MY drugs, they're locally grown and I'm in no way supporting terrorism. And it makes me awfully bitter that my taxes are being spent on a pair of superbowl ads that do nothing but slander me and the millions of other innocent americans who happen to enjoy smoking pot.
There are real threats to this country right now. The government was able to arrest 734,498 Americans for smoking pot last year, but was somehow unable to catch one lunatic in a cave in the mountains. It's downright shamefull. -
Who gives them the right?
How did government ever obtain to the right to tell me how to raise my kids? If I feel my kids are responsible enough to stay at an Internet cafe until 10pm or 11pm or 2am, they should be able to.
This is a presumption of guilt, people. I can understand placing restrictions on people who have already committed crimes---i.e., gang members who've been caught in fights already---but to punish a class of people for the actions of a few is not only immoral, it's unconstitutional.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
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Re:The difference between China and the U.S. . . .
"Too bad there isn't a party that takes the best of both worlds and puts it together..."
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Shorter version of the quiz @ lp.org
Yeah, BTW, check out the Political Compass
LP.org has a much shorter (10 questions) version of the quiz that has the same left/right and libertarian/totalitarian axes but uses a different scale.
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Look, you hypocrites...
If you are in favor of government stepping in to help your own pet project, don't act so surprised when they step in to help someone else's in a way that removes some of your freedom.
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Oops!Sorry, that wasn't the party platform, just an "issue" paper. The actual LP Platform does in fact call for the abolition of the EPA.
Mea culpa...
--jrd
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Oops!Sorry, that wasn't the party platform, just an "issue" paper. The actual LP Platform does in fact call for the abolition of the EPA.
Mea culpa...
--jrd
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Re:Equal Time
Before this discussion gets biased, we must present equal time for the Libertarian side of the argument:
What you're talking about is anarcho-capitalism, not Libertarianism. Libertarianism has always been about responsibility for your actions. By Libertarian standards, if your actions result in polluting the land and water of others, you are responsible for your crimes.If the people of Anniston simply stopped buying products from Monsanto, then they could use their "market forces" to stop this kind of activity.
In gaming parlance, anarcho-capitalism and the current regime in the US is akin to the difference between chaotic evil and lawful evil (Monsato cultivated the complicity of the powers that be)
A simple visit to the party platform explains this:
Pollution of other people's property is a violation of individual rights.
...Toxic waste disposal problems have been created by government policies that separate liability from property. Rather than making taxpayers pay for toxic waste clean-ups, individual property owners, or in the case of corporations, the responsible managers and employees, should be held strictly liable for material damage done by their property.
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Actually...I think the Libertarian argument would be that pollution is a crime because it harms the person/property of the victims (including, in this case, the State of Alabama) without informed consent. As such, there is no need to outlaw specific actions or substances, since there is already ample recourse in law to prosecute and punish harmful actions.
However, that doesn't mean there is absolutely no role for the EPA, or a similar agency. Libertarians recognize the need for police to defend against damage to the community from crime... they just wish the police didn't have to waste time arresting "consensual criminals" like prostitutes and drug users.
Prosecuting criminal investigations in the environmental arena requires expertise not normally found in the local cop-shop. So the EPA can have a valid role, even for Libertarians. However, most would prefer that the agency be slimmed down quite a bit, and/or perhaps merged with the "normal" police forces.
Sure, there are extreme elements in the LP, just like anywhere else. And many of these call for the outright dissolution of the EPA and other such agencies. But that doesn't mean they represent the mainstream of the movement, nor does the party platform seem to call for such action.
--jrd
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"We"? Who appointed you spokesperson?Dude, we're not angry about AOL, Hotmail, or online stores. These are all good things.
Eh, "we"? Who is "we"?
The problem, in the eyes of hackers and general Slashdot visitors
Why should we care about what criminals (i.e. "hackers") consider to be a "problem" (i.e. an impediment to their illegal activities)?
Why do you insist in speaking for the collective body of visitors to this site? Do you have mind-reading powers? Or do you just wish to usurp others' voices for your own ends?
The commercialization of the internet has given rise to free web page services that only give you 2MB of space and 300MB of bandwidth per month
Well, there's a lot that private individuals can do with that. So your objection is that it's not enough for heavy-duty warez trading?
cable modem services that will disconnect you if you run anything even remotely resembling a server
We already know why you want to run servers, right?
Anyway, did you stop to think that the people who pay for these cable modem services don't want an idiot on the same network as them creating a virtual traffic jam with his server? This is the exact online analogue to real estate zoning laws. People deserve to be protected from their neighbor setting up a big retail business right next to them, attracting tons of traffic and general degradation of life for the people who live there.
and a greater feeling among non-tech-heads that any site that isn't run by a multinational corporation that already owns fourteen newspapers and three TV stations "isn't trustworthy".
Yeah. They should trust tiny fly-by-night websites run by w4r3z d00dz in Slovakia, right?
The silencing of the average person for the sake of keeping internet speech under the control of multinational corporations because it is more profitable, however, is a bad thing.
Excuse me. I, contrary to what you seem to attribute to yourself, can't read minds. Would you explain to me which fruit (turd?) of your imagination you are talking about?
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Re:America, why bother?The communist party? Are you nuts? Islamic Jihad has nothing on the bloodiness of Papa Joe Stalin and Chairman Mao. Oh, and lest we forget? Enron is toast.
Personally, I don't like any of the fat cats, big business or big labor or big government. What I do like is personal responsibility. If you don't like somebody's labor practices, vote with your feet. Encourage others likewise. If you must organize, don't form a traditional union, form a guild. Train your people, set standards, start doing referrals. In the long run I think you'll make more for yourselves, and you won't be paying some fat cat to sit on his ass and whine every time the economy takes a hiccup, which actions tend to destroy perfectly good companies (and the union members' bank accounts into the bargain).
The party of personal responsibility is neither the GOP nor the DNC, nor the CPUSA nor the Greens. It is the Libertarian Party (http://www.lp.org). (and at least *I* told you up front whose party you're linking to...)
Now, I've finished ranting, somebody please mod that (blankety-blank) back into the stone age.
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Re:Warez: The New Drug?
I do agree that the FBI could be spending their time on terrorists or serial killers. Violent crimes should be their main job, then physical robbery, and everything else last on the list.
In the older warez days people put Cracktros into the games, old Amiga and c64 cracktros and demos. It wasn't about copying games, it was about hacking, skill, showmanship.
Today its about ripping people off, companies selling counterfeit office, windows, adobe. This goes against everything most hackers believe in.
The same thing goes for Mp3s, its like a bootleg tapes, even thou its illegal, people love them. I think this is a kind of double standard on morals, its ok to be robin hood and steal, but you cant sell.
Morals, laws and justice. 3 completely different things.
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Re:Bush?
Bush making a good decision...I must not understand the issue fully
:snip Sounds like a case of the latter
Stop being a moron and become informed on issues!
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Re:Oh? So then they finished the terrorist problem
Did anyone read the press release sent out by the Libertarian party last week?
Libertarian homepage
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Re:other ignition technologies
Damn it, another person who will trade freedom and control for government regulation. Stop trying to make your moral values into law.
We dont need more government regulations! We need less government.
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You commie!
Tecnically, I guess the word I am looking for is totalitarian, but commie sounds more demeaning. Do you honestly believe that a car manufacturer should be forced to place such equipment inside a car? That was the kind of things that Oceana was doing in Geoge Orwell's 1984. If you truly believe this then go to http://www.lp.org as they have much better argumets towards freedom than I.