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"Aw crap, here comes Enderle... what do you think, two or three reboots during this meeting just so we can listen to that stupid WAV? Doesn't he know he can just double click it?" (quoted from a post on Macslash) That would be too difficult for Enderle, regularly featured on AtAT as a not-terribly-bright in-duh-vidual. About the laptop itself, blech. I do give Acer some credit, though, that's among the nicest PC laptops I've seen in a while. Red just isn't my color, though 8^)

hairy hack not required, according 2 this article

Cool, now they just need to start replacing those crappy white square power adapters with something ugly but unbreakable ones, like those included with any cheapo windows Notebook.

the end that plugs into the computer, breaks the wires inside and develops shorts and funky sparks after few months of regular use.

check here for more info: Broken power adapters

As has been pointed out countless times again, the cost was NOT a "mere" $5M. Their total hardware cost was ~$7M ($5.3M for the computers and memory, another $1.7M for the infiniband hardware), there was another $1M to upgrade an existing building.

"The total cost of the asset, including systems, memory, storage, primary and secondary communications fabrics, and cables is $5.2M." (Source: http://don.cc.vt.edu/tcfslides.pdf)

That $5.2M INCLUDED the Infiniband cards, switches, and cabling.

"The total cost of the asset, including systems, memory, storage, primary and secondary communications fabrics and cables is $5.2mil. Facilities upgrade was $2mil. 1mil for the upgrades, 1mil for the UPS and generators." (Source: Interview with Dr. Varadarajan)

There was then an additional $1M for "facilities upgrades", and $1M for power infrastructure.

They also had the benefit of free labour (millions of Mac zealots)

Huh? Millions of "zealots", eh?

Even if we GROSSLY overestimate labor, let's say a MILLION DOLLARS, the total cost is still $8M. So screw the free labor argument: even if they paid a MILLION DOLLARS to put it together (which is a huge, gross exaggeration), they're still much, much cheaper than anything close. Also, ANY academic institution has this same benefit.

and have not factored in the cost of power and cooling (at 2MW total power and cooling, this is a pretty significant expense, about $5,000 a day) or the support costs.

Sorry. Other clusters don't include power in their capital costs. And cooling *is* equipment included in the VT cluster. Ongoing support costs are NOT included in the costs of any of the other Top 500 clusters. The only thing different about the VT cluster was that the $5.2M figure didn't include some of the infrastructure costs other clusters have. But even the ASCI clusters are asset + infrastructure only, and do NOT include buildings, energy, or support costs. So, sorry again. And even at $7M + our imaginary labor, it's still ridiculously cheaper.

Even NCSA's new Tungsten cluster is $12M for the ASSET ALONE. That does not include building, support, infrastructure upgrades, or anything. Just the computer. And Dell installed it for free. So are they "PC zealots", since it was free labor?

Hey! You pinched that from me! you insensitive clod.

Yeah, that's what I say too. Why can't Apple come out with a 5 GB player for ~$27.50/GB? That's a performance/price point that I can afford. Instead of dropping prices to improve that ratio they increase the performance, but that still means I can't buy one.

I dunno, a $100 iPod would be OK. Far more portable than the 33-100 CDs worth of music it represents, far more portable than the CD player I could install in only one of our vehicles for that price, and definitely much cooler.

No, the iPod Mini has a 4GB drive and sells for $249.

See here (among other sources)

Never, ever trust the Mac rumour sites. They are, without exception, crap.

Or at least something similar: www.macshash.org.

Come on! Lets show that asshole what trolling means!

Thank ghod someone is finally doing this -- I've been hoping for almost exactly this kind of drawer based, thumbnail enhanced tabs implementation for over a year now, and posted about the idea both at Slashdot and MacSlash last January. Others were writing about it, too. I also submitted it as a bug in Safari and as an enhancement on Apple's feedback page -- but then apparently they're deluged with such reports, never read them individually, and can't do more than statistical analysis of things people are reporting frequently, so I'm not optimistic that'll ever get noticed.

Anyway, it's nice to think that, even though this stuff hasn't made its way into Safari [yet? ever?], someone at Omni either read these posts or came up with the same idea independently. Either way is okay with me -- I'm just glad to see it's happening.

It seems obvious to me that this would be an excellent next evolution for browser interfaces. Wibbling over whether it's better to have tabs from the middle or the left (Chimera vs. Everyone else), what order new tabs should be inserted into the list, and whether to give tabs a fixed width (Safari) or let them collapse down to a certain minimum (Firebird) & how to handle spillover that doesn't fit in is all missing the point.

Whether or not people find it intuitive, a text column width of six inches or so is optimal for most people, which means that for the standard squat rectangular display most people have on their computers, a "well-shaped" browser window should have a lot of space on the left & right, while extending as close to the top & bottom of the screen as the user is comfortable with. In other words, vertical screen real estate will tend to be at a premium, and horizontal real estate will tend to be under-utilized.

Therefore, putting a row of tabs along the top, rather than the side, is a literal waste of space.

If the tabs are on the side, you get back another line or two of visible page text, and you have a lot more room to play with how the tabs are presented. As the Omniweb demo videos show, you now have room to put in thumbnail icons, which can give much better visual feedback than just a word or two of the title text. Another idea would be to put the favicon.ico graphic superimposed over part of that thumbnail, much the way that OSX puts the application icon at the corner of minimized page icons. You can put in fairly rich interface controls -- like for example a combined, hierarchical view of currently open tabbed documents, bookmarks, and a history listing, all accessible or hidable as you choose by disclosure/flippy triangles. And so on.

I'm glad this is finally happening. Time permitting -- so far, it hasn't -- I was half-ready to start writing this myself. Now that Omni has announced an implementation, I hope that tabs start evolving in this direction for every browser (except IE, which seems comfortably stuck in 1998 -- but then does anyone serious still use IE anymore?). In the meantime, this just might be worth finally buying a copy of Omniweb, and retiring Safari unless & until Apple comes out with a better version...

Thank ghod someone is finally doing this -- I've been hoping for almost exactly this kind of drawer based, thumbnail enhanced tabs implementation for over a year now, and posted about the idea both at Slashdot and MacSlash last January. Others were writing about it, too. I also submitted it as a bug in Safari and as an enhancement on Apple's feedback page -- but then apparently they're deluged with such reports, never read them individually, and can't do more than statistical analysis of things people are reporting frequently, so I'm not optimistic that'll ever get noticed.

Anyway, it's nice to think that, even though this stuff hasn't made its way into Safari [yet? ever?], someone at Omni either read these posts or came up with the same idea independently. Either way is okay with me -- I'm just glad to see it's happening.

It seems obvious to me that this would be an excellent next evolution for browser interfaces. Wibbling over whether it's better to have tabs from the middle or the left (Chimera vs. Everyone else), what order new tabs should be inserted into the list, and whether to give tabs a fixed width (Safari) or let them collapse down to a certain minimum (Firebird) & how to handle spillover that doesn't fit in is all missing the point.

Whether or not people find it intuitive, a text column width of six inches or so is optimal for most people, which means that for the standard squat rectangular display most people have on their computers, a "well-shaped" browser window should have a lot of space on the left & right, while extending as close to the top & bottom of the screen as the user is comfortable with. In other words, vertical screen real estate will tend to be at a premium, and horizontal real estate will tend to be under-utilized.

Therefore, putting a row of tabs along the top, rather than the side, is a literal waste of space.

If the tabs are on the side, you get back another line or two of visible page text, and you have a lot more room to play with how the tabs are presented. As the Omniweb demo videos show, you now have room to put in thumbnail icons, which can give much better visual feedback than just a word or two of the title text. Another idea would be to put the favicon.ico graphic superimposed over part of that thumbnail, much the way that OSX puts the application icon at the corner of minimized page icons. You can put in fairly rich interface controls -- like for example a combined, hierarchical view of currently open tabbed documents, bookmarks, and a history listing, all accessible or hidable as you choose by disclosure/flippy triangles. And so on.

I'm glad this is finally happening. Time permitting -- so far, it hasn't -- I was half-ready to start writing this myself. Now that Omni has announced an implementation, I hope that tabs start evolving in this direction for every browser (except IE, which seems comfortably stuck in 1998 -- but then does anyone serious still use IE anymore?). In the meantime, this just might be worth finally buying a copy of Omniweb, and retiring Safari unless & until Apple comes out with a better version...

...your competition is selling your products.

Now, Dell may not be selling iPods anymore since they've debuted their metoo!Pod-- but Dell is, astonishingly, selling a variety of Macs to the NYC school system. Talk about a bunch of whores who will do anything for a buck, huh? :-)

~Philly

Dell is selling eMacs to the NYC Board of Education.

For those of you not familiar with that situation, the author borrowed and modified some open source code for a terminal app into a Finder alternative. A bunch of GPL zealots then started a flame war with many actually demanding that he release the entire source code to the world under the GPL! What was worse was that the author had already helped the community by releasing many of the classes he had developed!

Hrm. I hadn't heard of this PathFinder GPL violation before, but a few minutes with Google paints an entirely different picture to the "GPL Zealots vs the Virtuous PathFinder Guy" that your story painted.

From here it seems that rather than "many actually demanding" a GPL release, it was very few people even hinting at a GPL release, and no actual demands were made. In any event, only the iTerm authors can make demands and even then they can't demand a GPL release.

For the most part, people were just exploring the possibilities in a mostly civil manner. If I was forced to polarise the discussion I would say the most significant minority of comments were anti-GPL trolls; typically saying things like "GPL BAD BSD GOOD" and other nonsense.

Later, the author of PathFinder apologises and admits it was an honest mistake. Many subsequent comments are then repeating that the mistake was honest so they should try and find a solution where everybody walks away happy. Nobody wanted to crucify the PathFinder guy... at least, not that I saw.

So I don't know where you got this entirely negative opinion of "GPL Zealots" from. My view is that the mistake was honest, the mistake was admitted, the iTerm authors seemed content to find an equitable solution, there were the typical anti-GPL trolls, and no actual demands for a "GPL release" were made.

Now contrast this with intentional violations of the GPL where the violator refuses to comply. For example, easyRDP.

"The truth is that the Mac OS is just as vulnerable as Microsoft Windows."

Does this guy have any idea what he's talking about???? He doesn't even mention A: the particular exploit and other OS's affected and B: how Apple promptly fixed it.

This Guy is an ID10T for posting this crap and scaring the media.

My weiner when soft looks like a thumb or a large clit, but when full-size, it can cause pain to both the anus and vagina...

That's the way (uh-huh, uh-huh) he/she likes it(uh-huh, uh-huh).

AcaBen

teh place for gHeys!

Looks like this guy is making the rounds. A more detailed post is at MacSlash. The highlight of conversation there is "Root is disabled by default, and SSH is off by default. Therefore the default settings don't make you vulnerable."

Apparently, it took 48 days from the time he informed Apple until now. Looks like he was itching to post something. There's his 15 minutes of fame.

as long as I'm reposting things from MacSlash

Hey, at least repost the right stuff. :)

... these /. mac fags should go get their own site and leave real enthusiasts/nerds alone.

Okay. I'll bite. Dear Mister Troll sir...as to us having a site of our own...we do. In fact we have several from which to choose. And, pray tell, what in your tiny little troll-like mind leads you to believe that Mac users are all of a particular sexual orientation of any kind at all? Or that mac users don't qualify as nerds? And by some strange twisting path of logic that we don't in some way belong here?Newsfalsh! The mac now not only sports a command line environment, but you can set your environment to your shell of choice!

I know, I know, please don't feel the trolls. Move along. Move along...

Yeah, there's speculation and innuendo, but the story has been around for over a month and there hasn't been too much movement. Don't expect a SlashBack reversal anytime soon...

This was discussed a while ago on MacSlash. The author directly wrote in apparently.

Here's the link: Employer Grabs Netflix Fanatic Software From Creator

No, VT did not do a lot of "assembly-level hacking" one man working two months did port a bunch of code and he did use the best compiler and LINPAK on the market (Professor Goto's libraries). If LANL didn't do the same or better, I'd be disappointed.

Also you keep harping on the fact that it was "self-assembled." But then you go on to compare it to a system not provided by IBM, HP, NEC, or Cray but one provided by Linux Networx. Perhaps if VA Tech had gone to them, Linux Networx might have beat out IBM's Opteron bid of $9-10 million. But could have they gotten as low as $4.2 million--the list price from Apple?

You're going to have to face the hard reality that the Opteron may be an integer demon but the IBM 970 has it beat handily in floating point. The Rpeak of the 2Ghz Opteron (2 Gflops/s) is 1/2 that of the 2Ghz 970 (4 Gflops/s). Even accounting for the fact that the Rpeak->Rmax dropoff might be larger for the 970, that's too much to make up. Also, Virginia Tech considered the Opteron, but found that at the performance they wanted (specifically floating point performance) the systems would have cost twice as much ($9-10 million instead of $4 million) which is why the correctly opted for the 970 and which is why they're #3 instead of #6.

And that's without using Altivec/VMX/Velocity, since that unit can't do double precision add-mults.

As for heat issues. The 2Ghz 970 uses 47 watts which puts it approximately 1/2 the heat of a Pentium 4 and significantly less than the Opteron. IBM will be selling 2x1.6Ghz 970's in a blade configuration early next year and I'm sure "heat" isn't the reason for the delay. The issue with G5s in a 1U rackmount is that they won't exist until 1Q 2004 and it came down to availability. If you did any reading on the subject, you'd find that Virginia Tech's first choice was actually 970 systems from IBM, but they wouldn't be available in time--same thing happenned to the Dell Itanium 2 bid (it could have also been cost, Dell was "exploring pricing options"). The IBM Opteron bid was too high as was the HP Itanium 2 bid so they opted for Apple after the announcement. Smart move, two months of coding and several hundred pizzas later they have the #3 supercomputer. Any compromize, NCSA's gigantic P4 cluster would have beat them out.

It's called running things twice. Look at the bottom of this article.

If one can't 17MB files to an iPod, how is one supposed to play the greatest psych-rock song ever?Seems like a pretty bad design flaw to me.

Read (troll) it at Macslash!!!!

Your notion of "free upgrades" would cost this cat nearly $3000 for the initial switch alone (and don't even mention buying used equipment, not an acceptable option considering Apple's current business model)... not to mention that regularly posted updates piped down from Apple won't cover the majority of his server needs.

Look, I'm not anti-mac. Hell, my old G4/400 is my recording studio and my Lombard is my portable networking tool (YDL 2.3), but switching platforms is not an an acceptable course of action just because your distro of choice forces you to examine an OS move.

RedHat's new business model will not end up with me tossing my RH 7.2 based K6 webserver or my RH 9 based XP2500+ anymore than this cat is going to toss his two perfectly usable systems.

If you want to justify your Macintosh zealotry... do it where it's warranted.

You damned evangelists are the whole reason I don't announce that I own Macs.

Walks off shaking head in disgust

And you... you, you bloody birkenstock wearing GNU hippies!
*pointing and grumbling at the snickering anti-social duo in the corner*

Put down that Mountain Dew, drop those multi-sided dice and pay attention! I've got a few choice words for you as well!

----

Person bags on me for talking about $5.7 million list price paid vs educational list price paid.

Yeah, you're right it was a little dishonest. In particular the part where I claimed it was $5.7 million when the cost was $5.2 million and included the cards/routers/cabling which (in Q&A) amounted to $1.5 million.

The G5s cost to $4.2 million not to $5.7 million. I was wrong and deceptive and I apologize.

As for the quibble about list price vs. educational list I apologize for that too: I took this information from the part where he said that they paid full list price and later assumed that it was the educational list. I'm wrong, you can spec 1100 G5's at AppleStore (non-education) for $3.27 million. If you get the 2GB of RAM from AppleStore at a rip off price, you still come in at $4.4 million--still under the $5.7 million I said in my post and (way under the $8-$10 million quoted by IBM and HP for their Opteron and Itanium2 systems).

A very good price indeed since it meant that you didn't have to "secretly explore pricing options" with Dell.

They'll patch it, they patched 10.1.x several times after Jaguar was released.

Not true.

The last Security Update for my 10.1.5 was last March. See here. That is from a similar story on MacSlash a week ago.

They'll patch it, they patched 10.1.x several times after Jaguar was released.

Not true.

The last Security Update for my 10.1.5 was last March. See here. That is from a similar story on MacSlash a week ago.

If anyone has run a beta release of 10.3, they've seen a very early build of the app that these groups have produced.

you will find this useful MacBuds: iChat AV Site For Gay Mac Users ... yes that is the real article headline

Not only what you say is wrong but you cross-post it all over the place.

This is the only problem I have using Macs in a Windows environment.

XBox saves music tracks to its hard drive in the new WWF game. Is this what the article was talking about? Something like it at least?

XBox saves music tracks to its hard drive in the new WWF game. Is this what the article was talking about? Something like it at least?

Sovereign Semiconductor

You're a day late and a dollar short yet again.

This story ran on MacSlash a day earlier. It also looks like the person who submitted this story plagiarized the submitter's blurb from MacSlash.

For shame, Pudge.

there wasn't a single coffee machine ... do they really expect a programmer to work without coffee ?

• Front door. How do people get in? Not very productive.
• Bathroom. Seriously, not one commode in any of those photos. Less of a problem if there's no coffee machine, I guess.
• Air. I didn't see any air molecules in the photographs, either. Coding without breathing is hard! (Although sometimes necessary; see pair programming.)

Like a lot of other people, this update seems to have completely screwed up ethernet networking for me. A lot of the reports I've read (Apple's site Slashdot comment, MacFixit article, MacSlash, etc) suggest that people with dual processor G4s running 400-500mhz are having a lot of problems, and a broken driver for the Intel gigabit ethernet chipset has been blamed -- though I haven't seen anything that conclusively says that this component is at fault. Other reports have come from people running faster G4s & PowerBooks, so if the Intel ethernet driver is a cause, it doesn't seem to be the only cause. All I can say personally is that my dual G4/450mhz is definitely messed up right now.

The best remedy I've seen so far is to restore the pre-10.2.8 version of the AppleGMACEthernet ethernet driver. If you can -- and for most people it'll be too late for this advice to do any good -- make a backup of the .kext driver before updgrading to 10.2.8, then use that to rebuild is things go awry. For everyone else, your best bet is to download it from Andrew McPherson's MIT site, either by establishing a dialup connection, by booting into OS9 and getting it from there, or by grabbing it with another machine and transferring it to your broken Mac by e.g. a burned CD, a Zip disc, etc.

Here are the repair steps, as slightly modified from McPherson's suggestion at Apple's site:

mkdir ~/enet_backup
cd ~/enet_backup
wget http://web.mit.edu/apm/www/AppleGMACEthernet.tar.g z
# note -- doing the above without network access is left
# as an exercise for the reader. i happen to have a flash
# card reader, so can transfer it that way, but I was
# getting pretty desperate before that occurred to me.
# others might want to try burning a CD, or getting
# online from OS9, or a zip disc, or...
# ...in any case, `wget` is about the only method that is
# almost guaranteed NOT to work right now...

cd /System/Library/Extensions
sudo mv AppleGMACEthernet.kext ~/enet_backup
sudo cp -r ~/enet_backup/AppleGMACEthernet.tar.gz .
sudo tar -zxvf AppleGMACEthernet.tar.gz
sudo chown -R root:wheel AppleGMACEthernet.kext
cd ..
sudo mv Extensions.kextcache ~/enet_backup/
sudo mv Extensions.mkext ~/enet_backup/
sudo shutdown -r now

This advice is close to that which McPherson suggested, but he recommended deleting the broken driver, and the commands I give above make a backup just in case. If all goes well you may remove that ~/enet_backup directory, but I have a hunch that somehow you're going to have to end up re-installing it, so keeping a copy around seems prudent to me -- and it's not like it even takes up that much space (well under a megabyte).

Other people have reported success with other solutions. One proposal was to run the command "ifconfig en0 media autoselect", but in my case that didn't work. Others have suggested rebooting, zapping the PRAM a few times, then letting the machine boot again; others have said that that didn't work either.

Replacing the driver, as described above, seems to be the remedy that has had the most success for the most users -- but even still, it isn't working for everybody. In my case, it has allowed me to reconnect to my PPPoE/

1. Your troll was too long winded. This is usually a dead giveaway to the bots that they're reading a troll. Things like footnotes need to be left out. If it's worth including, it's worth including in the main body. If it's relegated to footnotes or parentheses, it should probably be cut. This is a troll, not a research paper.
2. Apple fans are jaded to this argument. As hard as it is to believe, Slashdot is not MacTeens, so saying "Apple sucks," no matter how curtly or longwindedly, is not going to garner the response it might on other sites. Slashdot is good for Linux zealots. Slashdot's Apple fans tend be a little more mellow than, say, those on MacSlash.
3. Your post smells like a cut-and-paste of Dvorak's tripe: Too much like a magazine article (see #1).

Remember to keep it simple. With every bit of information you want to add to the piece, ask if it's relevant. Is it acting as filler that you need? Is it making a point or setting up a mark for a kneejerk reaction? Or are you just impressing yourself by seeing your wordcount grow every time you check it? Impact, impact, impact. This is something the British trolls never got and why you could spot them a mile away.

Better luck next time, make sure to keep trying!

Actually, this is the worst news ever.

Benchmarks are extraordinary: compiling kde on a G5 running at half speed takes 15 minutes, while it takes 1 hour on the fastest P4 available.

Bullshit. The only moved to Apple hardware recently with the acquisition of the Xserve. Otherwise Netcraft has them running FreeBSD as late as last December (link above), and they note that they only switched to the Xserve sometime since July 1.

Even though they updated it, they're still running an older version of Slashcode, so maybe it's not as relevant to this story since it's not the latest and greatest. I don't know the details of the porting issues to know if this is a factor at all... But unlike you, I checked my facts and admit when I don't know the truth!

Nothing caused the problems. MacSlash has been running on it for years--since 10.0, if not the first beta. Color me unimpressed. Pudge should've known this too.

They've been running Slashcode on an XServe for quite some time now, they even mention it here.
Somehow I doubt it's taken this long to get Slashcode running on OS X. OS X tends to be semi-trivial to port to for non-hardware or assembly code dependant software.

Macslash (see article) had this on the 14th.. come'on slashdot.. get up to speed :P

"The one thing I've never understood is the relationship between OpenDarwin and the distribution concerns."

"GNU-Darwin almost seems to be hindering the entire Mac OSS unix community."

"This almost surreal splintering can do nothing but harm the overall effort of ported OSS software for the Mac."

"If we can't agree that the PPC is the heart of the Mac, than what can we agree on?"

This was posted on MacSlash couple of days ago.

BuyMusic.com Ripping Off Artists

from http://macslash.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/29/151021 1

posted by Cannonball on Tuesday July 29, @09:57AM
from the oh-this-sounds-interesting. dept.

Jody Whitesides writes "My name is Jody Whitesides, I'm an artist that is about to be brought to the Apple iTunes Music Store. Of course I recently heard about BuyMusic so I decided to point my Mac browser at it (with Javascript turned off you can see the site)." Jody ran into some trouble with BuyMusic that is very troubling: they're ripping him off. Dig Deeper for the whole story.

I did a search for one of my old CD's that will be going onto iTunes and It turns out my CD was there on BuyMusic.com. As were the CD's of several other bands that I'm friends with. All of whom were not contacted about being placed for sale there.

Here's what I've deduced... BuyMusic.com (which I will refer to as BM) got their "vast" music library of 300,000 plus songs from a company called the Orchard. The Orchard is a distribution company that has consistently shafted artists by not paying them for CD's sold nor returning unsold CD's or cancelling contracts. So, without the express consent of what is likely lots of the Orchards catalog, BM has put it up for sale at the bargain price of $.79 a song.

So now, they can tout they're selling tracks at $.79 and they can say they have a library of music of over 300,000 songs. But what they don't tell you is that it comes from musicians/bands that were not asked for permission, and who will likely not see a penny of any sale made through BM. By their very own site policy they are committing copyright infringement. They have done this to lure PC/windows users to their site in hopes to sell the few major label aquired songs they do have, at a price that is much higher than Apple's $.99.

I'm currently looking into legal means to have my music removed from their site and strongly encourage users to not browse BM's site nor purchase from it."
We contacted Jody this week to discuss his story, and he's promised to keep us informed in his battle with Orchard and BuyMusic.com. He also gave us the following information:

"At that time I did a distribution deal (1997-98). The original contract was to set me up with Brick and Mortar distribution, nothing else.

Fast forward a couple of years. I dissolved the band, but kept the disc and still sold it, since I own it. At one point I was notified. That I had some sales with the Orchard, but since it was so random and I hadn't dealt with them in so long, I never got paid. Though they asked for more CD's.

Then they announced they were having financial troubles and were going to go out of business. At this point lots of artists with them were having difficulty getting their merchandise back. I just decided to "screw it" not worry about it, that I would never see the small amount from the sales and call it a loss.

Fast Forward again to last week. It came to my attention that BuyMusic was up. So I tried to get in to see the hubbub. Mostly cause I'm so excited to be finally getting onto iTunes. Immediately I wasn't happy with BuyMusic, being a Mac lover. I then got word that anyone who was with the Orchard may very well be on BuyMusic. I went to double check and sure enough my old CD (Amalgam - Delicate Stretch of the Seems) that I still control and own was up there, for sale without my permission. This made my blood boil.

I contacted several of my friends who had also done deals with the Orchard and found they are on BuyMusic as well, not mention that they were not told of this either and all of them thought the Orchard was out of business.

I started going to the Orchard's site, found that they still seem to be conducting business, unfortunately I can no longer get into my account cause the information there is so old that I don't have it anymore. I also started going through their catalog

Yes, that got brought up on the macslash article comments... it would be hilarious, and possibly quite useful to both the immediate situation and the DMCA one.

Go here.