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Do you really think her old one ran out of space, or maybe it didn't have enough encryption for the US record industry's liking and so had to be replaced, either way, it wasn't newsworthy the first time ma'am's portable DRM box was discussed and obama barely increases that newsworthiness

June 2005 | CBBC Newsround | The Queen 'joins iPod revolution'

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=11875

Yes, I know this, poor Germans. I guess that's your country's "Geiz ist geil" mentality. ;-)

As I just posted a few comments up, here in Switzerland Apple held more than 50% of the educational market in 2006, and I doubt this rate has dropped. This is also what you'll encounter, 50/50 Macs vs. PCs. Market share for Apple in the whole IT business also is over 10%.

Except in non American countries, where they aren't.

Wrong, here in Switzerland Apple holds more than 50% of the educational market and the top spot in several other European countries. That was 2006, I doubt the rate has dropped, but have no data at hand.

The mac commercial was disseminating false information when they are clearly talking macOS vs windowsOS then all of a sudden claim their 16% market share of laptops for students makes them the number one laptop choice by college students.

Although Apple only has 16% of the total market, they say they will lead a particular segment. How is that false information? There is an actual study that says that this year, Apple will beat out Dell, HP, etc when it comes to college notebook sales. Last year, it was not the case. Now Apple never said it would lead overall notebook sales, just college ones. That's no different than Toyota claiming it is #1 in terms of truck sales in one state. In another state, Chevy or Ford might have the lead and Ford probably has the lead overall.

You'd probably have more success developing your own standard and convincing the world to switch (I'm not kidding).

Microsoft are trying to do something like that with Silverlight. Microsoft would do it, if Apple wanted to play.

Ironically, Woz also relates how his comments on Apple may get taken out of context:

[Jobs] calls me and he says he doesn't like something that I was reputed to have said. But he gets it out of context. A reporter's seized on a comment and strung along with that. I'm very positive on Apple, but I'll also point out things that could be better, or aren't the way I'd like them to be. To that point, several journalists have picked up this story with a very negative slant:

- Wozniak slams iPhone, MacBook Air
- Woz finds flaws in Apple's latest offerings
- Wozniak 'disappointed' by Apple iPhone
- Former Apple founder vents over iPhone's pitfalls

I travel a lot, so the lightweight thing is cool. The deficiencies aren't a big deal.
what about the

*slow processor (1.6 or 1.8 on the air vs 2.1 or 2.4 on the regular macbook)
*choice between a small slow hard drive or a faster but even smaller and very expensive solid state drive?
*£500 price difference from the regular macbook
*Shortage of USB ports (though admittedly the macbook isn't brilliant in this regard either)

are all theese downsides worth a 1KG weight reduction (about the weight of a 1L bottle of water) to you?

according to http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/index.cfm?newsid=20325 it is possible to install XP on a macbook air using an external USB optical drive.

Guitarist edge says: "iPod and iTunes look like the future to me and it's good for everybody involved in music."

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=9991#mainContent (MacWorld UK)

When Apple released iTunes for Windows, Bono joined the stage via iChat video conference and said said the new service was a "really, really cool thing." "That's why I'm here to kiss the corporate ass," said Bono, drawing a huge laugh and applause from the crowd. "I don't do that for everyone."

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/news/2003/10/60851 (Wired)

True enough, bad choice of words on my part.

I wasn't using it to support my argument, I was just giving my opinion of those people while stating my interpretation of why they finally went no drm after years of refusing to sell music from indie artists who wanted to sell no-drm music. My personal opinion is that anyone who thinks a company is either "evil" or "good" is an idiot. A company will always do what is most profitable for them and still allowed by the laws of where they operate. All you need to do is give me one example of why it would be financially better for apple to sell music without drm other than my theory that it was only so that they wouldn't have to open fairplay to competing companies, and I'll back off from that position.

I agree, but there's a reason for doing that which is just not compatible with the "absolutely no DRM's" model. They were trying to sell iPods, not music (the estimates at the time were that they were essentially breaking even with their iTunes sales between costs of operation and the label cut. I don't know if that's still the case). However, the more successful the music store, the bigger the incentive to get an iPod. Allowing people to burn their cd's was a good way of doing that (and not original. Rhapsody did the same for many of their cd's, but Apple did manage to negotiate their terms so that every song sold on iTunes would also be allowed to be burnt to a cd). At the same time, making sure that the mp3's would only work with iPod also guarantees that people won't switch to another mp3 player in the future. Would people really want to go through the hassle of burning their entire iTunes bought mp3 collection and re-ripping for another player? Even if they did, they'd end up with a lower quality mp3 due to the re-encoding process. And before you mention cracking fairplay without re-encoding, that wasn't exactly supported by Apple's ToS.

Actually, Universal had a three-year contract that expired last year, and they were on a temporary 1-year contract since, which was not self-renewing.

This article is replete with comments which assume that people who take items at gunpoint are desperate drug addicts of low intelligence. The association of force or the threat of force with paucity of wit is probably a manifestation of the poster's insecurity: a man stealing a laptop is likely the grunt input end of an organised fence->reburb->resell operation, just as the average programmer is the grunt input end of some business process.

Except that, as you imply, the highwayman is going to have to "become an expert pretty quickly" to avoid not just being caught, but the lethal force of retaliation; the worst a cubicle dweller has to fear is an embarrassing bug uncovered in testing. It's the kind of epic misunderstanding that leads to calling a suicide bomber "cowardly" - of all criticisms you could possibly bestow on a man who has decided that the best way to tackle some problem involves sacrificing his own life, cowardice is the least accurate.

Sure Apple, will not be able to maintain complete control of online store pricing or terms of use. Still, five bucks per episode is insane for a product of lesser quality than full movies and that is also available for free with ads. It's better for Apple to drop NBC altogether than offer something that will be ridiculed by customers.

"Flexible pricing" would be more appropriate as offering some combination of episodes and movies as a bundle, at a discount compared to everything bought separately.

Apple *has* made it clear in the past that their support of open source is conditional on it not being a threat to their business. That is why they heavily back the effort in Europe (along with Microsoft) to have software patents be legal there. Now whether they would take action against the use of CUPS in Linux is still an open question. My guess is they will allow it for now, but slowly change the licensing terms until they can force the Linux community to fork it in order to maintain the freedom of the code.

What market is that? Microsoft is all over the US smartphone market.

And 5.6% marketshare is "all over" the market? Methinks with that logic, Apple has a monopoly on the PC laptop market, with their latest marketshare figures. Consider that in the same article Ballmer is talking about trying for 60-80% marketshare. Think that'll work when they've got the iPhone for competition? I think I'll work about as well as the Zune has so far...

You all keep saying that (and of course getting positively moderated nicely for it) but nowhere on the Safari web site does it say "only for iPhone application developers" and Jobs' own presentation also does not make that distinction, and he CLEARLY states that Safari is intended to be a replacement for Firefox and other third party browsers. So do you have another source to back up the oft-repeated claim that Safari on Windows is only for developers, or are you simply rationalizing yet another aggressive anti-open-source action by Apple?

The share of the market which belongs to Windows Mobile is actually quite small, particularly compared to Symbian's industry dominating share upwards of 70%. It turns out that most people (well, all people with a margin of error of only 5.6%) don't seem to be obsessed with obscure Windows Mobile "business" features that are hard to set up and expensive to maintain (Exchange Server integration), on phones that don't work all that well. Here are some interesting articles on the market share of cell phone platforms.

Apple iPhone to exceed Windows Mobile by 2008?
Smartphone
Symbian tops Smartphone OSes, but challenges loom
Linux trounces Windows Mobile in Smartphone shipments
Smartphone market share


Your discussion of killer apps on phones seems ingenuous. Random access to voicemail, real web browsing, and an easy to use Google maps function all three appear to be of great interest to non-geek folk interested in the iPhone. Several business people who are heavy cell phone users have told me, without prompting, that the random access voicemail feature alone will spur them to buy an iPhone. Salespeople are really jazzed about all three features, including the Google Maps. They have maps and web browsing on their smart phones today, but they are not happy with the non-ease of use of current devices. And they get lots and lots of voicemail, and they've known for years that they wanted random access to it. Exhange Server integration, well, it never comes up in the discussion until a geek ask about it. Nobody (a number of people approaching zero with a margin of error of 5.6%) cares about Exchange Server integration with their phone.

Your use of the term "fanboy" is technically incorrect. The parent post relies almost entirely on hypotheticals to elucidate a point regarding possible reasoning behind Apple's Safari for Windows move. Furthermore, calling the parent a "fanboy" is an ad hominem logical fallacy. Please endeavor to raise the level of discussion here, and avoid cheap shots. If you don't have a point to make, read and think more before you post. If you do have a poitn to make, don't undermine your credibility by including ad hominem attacks with your argument. Although there are those here who reward such childish behavior with mod points, there are people here who mod down for inappropriate use of the term "fanboy".

Note the Ballmer quote in the article.
But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60 per cent or 70 per cent or 80 per cent of them, than I would to have 2 per cent or 3 per cent, which is what Apple might get."

Is PayPal a "bank"?

Paypal is about to become one, at least in Europe:

• PayPal becomes European bank
• PayPal Expands European Growth With Bank Charter And New European Headquarters

Will this do?

Alternately, www.justfuckinggoogleit.com, dimwit.

The last time someone posted a question about "How long", it was answered in the first post.

Unfortunately, I don't have a Mac, or I'd do it. But maybe this counts: http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/reviews/index.cfm?re viewid=2215

Layne

"The 10% discount is so you'll bring the iPod in to Apple, who can properly recycle it, instead of tossing it in the trash, where it ends up in a landfill. I'd say that's environmentally friendly."

The point is that continually replacing and recycling (on the other side of the world it should be noted) a product which could quite easily be made to last many times its current average lifespan is not environmentally friendly or ethical in any way, shape or form.

Unlike the electronic products of old (I still have a Sony Walkmam from the 80's which works, unlike my iPod from last year) the iPod is designed to last a pathetically small amount of time, regardless of the inevitable environmental damage caused, because Apple can then get $200 every couple of years (or less) rather than just once. To somehow try and turn that around and pretend the process is environmentally friendly is ridiculous.

Personally, its the fact that if iPods were released 20 years ago they would most probably be deemed "faulty" due to their pathetically short lifespan (particularly of their battery) that annoys me even more than the environmental concerns, but it all adds up to show how unethical a product the iPod really is (and that's not even considering the sweatshops that they are manufactured in with reports of $50 a month wages for daily 15 hr shifts etc http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=14 915).

I should also add that the BBC will also support OS X.

There has been so much speculation, but where's the proof? It'll have to run a slim OS like the iPhone to work well on flash due to the high rate of paging MacOS does.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=17 434

This "news story" was a hoax.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=81 38

Apple has the market on MP3 plays though, but I doubt they will have an increase in mac users any time soon.

Apple has already seen an increase in switchers to Macs. The First quarter growth of portable Macs was 65% year over year and was 3 tymes what the financial industry expected. Of the past 9 quarters, Apple has increased it's growth beyond expectations in all but one quarter. Sure, as compared to Windows users it's not much but it's wrong to say there hasn't been and won't be an increase in mac users.

Jobs is an arrogant control-freak, and he often exaggerates when talking about the coolness of Apple products or their potential - but he doesn't strike me as a liar. In fact, he is quite earnest in his own way. Do you have any evidence of him lying?

No, but I read and watch almost nothing he says either. I bet I could find something if I tried.

I don't see what refusing to license Fairplay has to do with wanting to be DRM-free.

You said in your previous post "When [Gates] says he opposes DRM, he probably means he opposes DRM that Microsoft doesn't control." Again, how's that different from Jobs wanting to control FairPlay?

Licensing Fairplay would make the DRM even worse.

How? By not locking iTunes customers into iPods?

So, Jobs has to include DRM, as the deals with the RIAA and labels demanded it.

And the MPAA would have demanded some degree of DRM for next-gen DVDs to play on Windows.

It's strange that you say he "fought tooth and nail" to keep other people from licensing iTunes. Who was he fighting?

Hmm, Norway (which ruled FairPlay illegal in that country), France (including saying that a law that would require them to license FairPlay was "state-sponsored piracy"), The Netherlands, Germany, and increasingly others. (The first two are the best examples.)

From what I can see, Apple simply said "No, we aren't going to license iTunes. End of story." No fighting involved. After all, it's Apple's property, they have no obligation to license it to anybody. So, why would there be a tooth and nail fight?

Interesting that you don't have a problem with Apple trying to retain control of their DRM but you seem to have a problem with the words you put into Gates's mouth about not liking DRM MS doesn't control.

Looks like it really is a scaled-down version of Mac OS X. From Macworld Expo:

The iPhone is running an optimised but full version of OS X that weighs in at "considerably less" than half a GB, according to Apple vice president of worldwide iPod marketing Greg Joswiak.

Joswiak confirmed that the operating system sits in the flash memory of the device and that Apple will "provide updates to the operating system like we do today."

Joswiak claimed that the reduced size of the operating system was a result of expertise of the team at Apple, rather than cutting out functionality or removing core technologies. "Remember that OS X on a Mac features a lot of applications that we don't have to ship on the iPhone," he added.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.c fm?newsid=16927

but the artists dont get *shit* when you buy your music there.

Because artists make SO MUCH on sales in this country...

(Don't particularly like using this as a reference, it's not exactly CNN or BBC, but it's the first reference I saw that looked decent...)

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=14 495

Rather than paying artists approximately 30 cents of the 70 cents it receives for digital downloads (after deducting payments to music publishers), the suit alleges that Sony Music treats each download as a sale of a physical CD or cassette tape, only paying on 85 per cent of such "sales" (due to a fiction that there is breakage of product), deducting a further 20 per cent fee for container/packaging charges associated with the digital downloads (although there are none), and reducing its payments by a further 50 per cent "audiofile" deduction, yielding a payment to the Sony Music recording artists of approximately 4 1/2 cents per digital download

I'd rather pirate the track and give the artist the buck directly. If only there were a way to do that...

I'm a little skeptical of someone's numbers here. According to this article: http://www.macworld.co.uk/education/news/index.cfm ?newsid=16335 Apple is #1 in European education market. According to this they're #2 in the US: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2006/10/25/macs HP is a distant 3rd with Sony trailing... and Gateway is supposed to be #1 for college aged kids? Something just doesn't add up here. In terms of total market share Apple is slightly below Gateway (which I guess includes eMachines, right?): http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061019104 418.shtml So maybe Gateway(eMachines) is the over whelming choice of the non-college bound college age kids?

IOW the quality control (using Windows PCs) was the problem, so how could it be the solution?

So Apple is one of those companies who practise modern slavery ? Macworld article here.

does anybody know just how many and just how much of this money will actually go to the artists?

what i would do is jsut ignore them.. if they get them to stop apple from "importing" them.. jsut start building them here

That'd cost them a lot more. Can you really find anyone in the USA that will work 15 hour days for £27 ($50) a month. I'll admit that that source may not be reliable since The Mail (cited as the source for the MacWorld article) is a particaliarly sensationalist paper, it could well be exagerated or an isolated case, it's still going to cost Apple a lot more to manufacture iPods in the US.

Oh, and nice headline. I'd even go so far as to call it a sensational headline. You get a slow clap.

They also had Einstein and Jim Henson, and I've never heard Apple is working on theoretical Physics or making puppets...

The article linked is a little hard to read but Playlist has a decent report on the story. Also note that MacWorld UK ran this story yesterday.

But this kind of raises an interesting question. When a company operates accross many countries, which country's law do they uphold?

We saw both Google & Yahoo! run into a bit of a jam with their services in China. They pretty much violated what would be considered ethical duties in the United States overseas. Is this wrong? Do they face legal implications in one country or the other?

With iTMS operating in the UK, the US & Norway, what are they to do? Fairplay seems to be violating laws in the UK & Norway while in the United States it seems to be law to have some form of DRM (and with lobbyist Herr RIAA in charge, that's not going to change anytime soon). Do they alter the way their service works in each country? If so, sign me up for some musikk!

Perhaps Apple will license Fairplay so that other devices can play the MP4 music ... though I doubt it. They've got quite a racket going and I'm sure they don't want to hurt iPod sales anywhere. Maybe they'll have to better define a few EULAs in order to avoid this, I'm not a law-talking guy so I'm not sure.

You know, to some degree, I do agree with you but I was being literal with the name of the organization, which is "Federation Against Copyright Theft".

Snort - FACT - yeah. Anyway, if you look up "Copyright Theft" on google (with quotes), it has very few hits (1500). I'm just remarking that it's an odd and ironic term, as no actual "copyrights" are being stolen.

Actual "copyright theft" is what you can argue the RIAA does against some unsuspecting artists (with their contracts in a way) or what faceless unscrupulous organizations do to others:

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=14 495&Page=1&pagePos=2

That's why when people copy, share, pirate - I prefer copyright infringement - it's more technical and says exactly what one did, not a confused term like "copyright theft." Unless you are telling me that someone stole sony's copyrights and are now legally licensing the content in their own name?

"With great respect to the trial judge, we consider he has reached the wrong conclusion. We felt that during the course of the trial we clearly demonstrated just how extensively Apple Computer had broken the agreement. We will accordingly be filing an appeal."

Apple sells 5-8 million macs a quarter.

Where in the fuck are you getting these numbers?

My googling took me to Macworld where they claim:

Apple sold 1,112,000 Macs during the quarter, returning $1.572 billion in revenue - a 4 per cent increase in units shipped and 5 per cent increase in revenue year on year.

That article is dated 12 days ago (4/20/2006).

For years now there's been competition between the two companies in one spot or another. Adobe's CEO, Bruce Chizen, made some rather cutting remarks a few years back about the Mac OS generally, and last April described the relationship as "like a marriage where you're in it for the kids." Adobe generally has grown in Windows markets more than with the Mac -- with products like Acrobat -- and has made a point of saying so.

Quark, meanwhile, took so long to be OS X compatible that they caused the entire world of graphic designers to be incredibly wary of upgrading anything at all now.

"Strategic" decisions aren't immutable. Notice the chips Apple is shipping in its latest machines.

...Did you mean Apple Computers or Apple Corp. I get them confused all the time.

Tom Caudron
http://tom.digitalelite.com

P.S. Yes, it's a joke. Laugh now.

I've seen LOTS of people using ipod headphones on non-ipod mp3 players and even cd walkmans.

You sure those aren't something like the RetroPod (Walkman modded as iPod case)? You might be less likely to get mugged if they thought you just had an old piece of junk.

Jobs needs to abandon proprietary hardware once and for all...Until he does that, he can expect to remain on the fringe irrespective of anything else he might do.

Fringe? Did you really say "... he can expect to remain on the fringe ..."

• HTTP inventor endorses Safari browser
• Tim Berners Lee invents first web apps and server on a NeXT computer
• Apple stock trading at $74 and change as of writing this
• More than 10 million iPods sold
• Half way through 2005 500 million songs sold via iTunes

All of which is really consistent with your point "...Apple are still going to remain largely irrelevant."

If you call those achievemens 'largely irrelevant' and 'fringe' I'd love to see your resume!

The submissions says pornographers are staying away, but I've been reading the opposite conclusion in the past few weeks:

iPod Porn Now Available

Apple iPod delivers "iPorno" revolution

I think it's silly to think pornographers won't be taking advantage of the iPod. Millions of people have them, and millions would love to have porn on them. It's easy business.

It was interesting to read this article after just last night hearing a short news blurb on my local CBS affiliate about the porn industry is "embracing" the new iPod with man on the street interviews with people who don't like the idea of having the "guy sitting next to them in class looking at porn," and overarching implications that parents should be alarmed and ready to take up arms to defend their kids' innocence.

Other perspectives:
Pornographers embracing iPod
Will iPod Be Eye for Porn?
Harness iPod's dollar power -- porn on the go
How do you know Apple's new device will succeed? iPod Porn
Apple iPod delivers "iPorno" revolution

um, you are wrong. apple invested in adobe way back in the postscript days but sold all its shares in the late 80s for a signficant profit.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?home&News ID=11340

perhaps you're thinking of microsoft's investment in apple:

http://news.com.com/MS+to+invest+150+million+in+Ap ple/2100-1001_3-202143.html

Consider that the one third of bots are now in the UK, where people bandwidth is the best over all. What's it going to be like when all of China is wired? (BTW, that is one of the PRC's goals, even remote farms without running water have DSL!)

Well, yes, that's what a lot of us, many of us Apple users, do deny. We have opened the cases, and looked at what's in them, and we just do not see it. We see the same drives, opticals, memory, psus, graphics cards as in our Dell boxes. We see main boards manufactured by, I think, Asus. We don't see any particularly wonderful layout of the components. We don't even see in general better cooled or quieter cases.

So which is it.

As I said, "according to some numbers." Marketshare is a difficult computation, because there's a lot of factors that can play into it. So depending on how you run the numbers, you're going to get different results. It's a bit like trying to determine which web browser is the most popular. Numbers tend to vary wildly. However, they do point to indications of increasing or decreasing.

So there's nothing I said that's incorrect. Only your attempts to twist what I said are incorrect. If you read the articles, the differences in methodology are apparent.

Lets do the numbers and say 1000 computers total (just for ease of math)

Nice sleight of hand there. A lot like the missing dollar paradox. But just like the paradox, we have absolute numbers that do work out in the end. According to the first link, Apple has shipped nearly 50 million computers last quarter. The article gives exact figures for the growth, so pulling that "BSD is dying" math doesn't hold water. (The amazing Kreskin predicted it!)

I think your best bet here is to try and convince other people I am a troll or to say you were trolling me to save face.

I'll never understand why you trolls think that garbage works. Claiming you're not a troll in an obvious troll is the surest sign that you *are* a troll. So have fun trolling, Mr. Troll.

(tips hat) Good day.

This is not a troll, just pointing out your errors.

So which is it.

I see the first link you have claims 4.7% market share. That seems about right (possibly even a little high)

Form the article.
"Apple's shipments grew 37 per cent year-on-year quarter, against a worldwide industry growth of 16.6 per cent,"

So overall growth was 16.6 percent but apple grew 37% year to year.

Lets do the numbers and say 1000 computers total (just for ease of math)

With apple at a 4.7% market share that gives then 47 of those computers.

After the 16.6% growth that gives us 1166 computer. Apple had 37% percent growth. So that would be an additional (.37 * 47) 17 computers. So now apple has 64 out of 1166 computer or ..... 5.4% market share . UP LESS THEN A PERCENT WITH 33% GROWTH. (but the 33% does sound impressive)

The second link makes no sense but just to point out . It does only claim a 26% growth on shipping computers(Yes, both articles talk about the same year)

I think your best bet here is to try and convince other people I am a troll or to say you were trolling me to save face.

Linky 1

Linky 2

And I made a mistake on the growth figure. It's 37%. But then again, you're just trolling to see how many Mac users you can make mad, aren't you?