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Public Relations Marketing software does not interfer with the
operation of software but rather is an acknowledgement of the goodwill
of the sponsor. As such it should be noted that such acknowledgement
is of the same nature as is a software license giving credit to the
authors. One example is a startup notice (that will vanish on it's own
in very short time, and be disabled by user choice). Another is mention
of sponsor in the "About" menu item.

The value to give sponsors in exchange for their sponsorship is
acknowledgement of their sponsorship.

That's Goodwill!!! Something to respect! And something OSS developers
probably will respect perhaps as mush as they respect the license and
license holder of OSS..

They'd better watch out for Belgians with Pies.
No seriously, I think the most powerful statement we can make is to completely ignore the M$ booth.
Have the curious journalists make snapshots of the empty M$ booth.
The M$ era is over, and it's about time we showed the world... Which we will not do by making a big deal out of this..
It is *irrelevant*. Please act accordingly.

Similar to this?

You do mean pineal fluid, don't you?

Apparently the reporter had eaten som Lemon Wacky Hello candy :-)

The assertion that 4'33" didn't require an instrument is false.
For a very good analysis of 4'33" check out Larry J Solomon's essay on it.

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If you're a member on fark, someone has set up a pool. Sick bastards.


We all know it's inevitable. Quit jerking us around and get busy with it guys.

Asking Google: how do I cancel my Earthlink account" gives me this page with specific instructions: http://help.mindspring.com/modules/00800/00823.htm

Lay off the weed, ok? Makes thinking clearer.

the patent office would only listen to their own words.

From some -patent information clips (these were taken from the USPTO web site.

"An invention is a novel idea which permits in practice the solution of a
specific problem in the field of technology. Under most legislations
concerning inventions, the idea, in order to be protected by law
("patentable"), must be new in the sense that it has not already been
published or publicly used; it must be non-obvious ("involve an inventive
step") in the sense that it would not have occurred to any specialist in
the particular industrial field, had such a specialist been asked to find
a solution to the particular problem; and it must be capable of industrial
application in the sense that it can be industrially manufactured or
used."

It seems to me that the patent office has forgotten their own words, as
things like the one click Amazon thing falls into the "obvious" and common
solution to a particular problem, upin being given to a specialist in that
field.

The problem is that the patent offic takes no risk in issuing bad patents,
for to challange a granted patent the patent office still collects a fee.

Hell, last I checked, Mindspring's DNS servers were Itchy and Scratchy.

The Matrix....company Neo worked for...

And the 9 meta actions of doing anything.

Matrix Squared

Mass Squared

Mass Cubed

On a less meta-phorical note:

usenet posts from google Just call me Neo...

see lower part of page

These really are the primary set of meta action constants.

Who knows, maybe this will liven up this article responses...oh yeah, there is also my journal here in slashdot to consider.

The Matrix....company Neo worked for...

And the 9 meta actions of doing anything.

Matrix Squared

Mass Squared

Mass Cubed

On a less meta-phorical note:

usenet posts from google Just call me Neo...

see lower part of page

These really are the primary set of meta action constants.

Who knows, maybe this will liven up this article responses...oh yeah, there is also my journal here in slashdot to consider.

The Matrix....company Neo worked for...

And the 9 meta actions of doing anything.

Matrix Squared

Mass Squared

Mass Cubed

On a less meta-phorical note:

usenet posts from google Just call me Neo...

see lower part of page

These really are the primary set of meta action constants.

Who knows, maybe this will liven up this article responses...oh yeah, there is also my journal here in slashdot to consider.

The Matrix....company Neo worked for...

And the 9 meta actions of doing anything.

Matrix Squared

Mass Squared

Mass Cubed

On a less meta-phorical note:

usenet posts from google Just call me Neo...

see lower part of page

These really are the primary set of meta action constants.

Who knows, maybe this will liven up this article responses...oh yeah, there is also my journal here in slashdot to consider.

If we are to really believe some of Apple recent rhetoric, they are listening to the community. There was a proposal floating around the net and a petition to support it. Also the 'Feedback' button on the MacOS X support page apparently is attached to some Apple interns or some such who actually sort through the comments. The fact that the resources to start adding more meta data and journaling to HFS+ are available at Apple may indicate that they are listening. The way to find out is to continue to let Apple know that the BFS and its features (along with the features of other good, modern file systems) should be brought to HFS+ and that meta data as the primary MacOS X file association system should grow, rather than diminish.

The act of programming is to take something complex, though made up of simplers things and to automate it's use, so as to take the task of creating the complexity away in order to move forward sooner. As has been the way of human advancement since forever!

It seems clear that Computer Science has gotten entrapped in itself for the sake of itself and the sacrifice of advancing technology.

Do you really need to teach students how to re-invent or would it be better to teach students how to advance by putting things others have done together in order to advance?

Perhaps the focus should be on identifying the action constants of Virtual Interaction so as to be better skilled at building new and advanced things like autocoding.

see lower part of page and do a search on "autocoding" in groups.google.com

oops!

transposed a couple letters in the ISP URL

That should get you there, now.

this post's mod drops like a plane with an afghani pilot.

There are serious issues surrounding the legalities of a drivers license. There is a strong relationship to between the drivers license and the SSN (social securit number), the latter of which is not required of you to possess (but good luck trying to live without one).

It comes down to definitions. Words like "travel", "automobile", "motor vehicle", and amoung the most important, "driver". IANAL, but you have to understand that when you enter into the realm of law, you dont just have "general meanings" for words. They are each defined very strictly, and are often redefined in various sections so as not to have any confusion as to where or to whom the law applies.

"Motor Vehicle" is an important one. Definition in Title 18 USC 31 - "Motor vehicle" means every description or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways in the transportation of passengers, or passengers and property."

"Driver" is another one, definition from Bovier's Law Dictionary - "One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle..."

You'll notice that both of these definitions include mention of the thing in question (a Motor Vehicle or a Driver) involved in some form of commericial business. The argument exists, in what may people think as extremists circles, that licensing, by law, is only required for those who wish to use the public roads for commercial use.

So notice you are getting a "Driver's License" at the "Motor Vehicle Division", and you are not getting a "Traveler's License" at the "Automobile Division". Traveler and Automobile.. very different defintions on those 2 words than on the previous 2.

So you have "extremist" views and you have people who try to debunk them (cant find a legitimate link right now, but they most definitely exist). The difference seems to be one group is actively reading the laws and applying them (how dare they), and one group is saying "these guys are idiots, OF COURSE everyone has to have licenses, thats how we've done it for YEARS, so it MUST BE RIGHT!!!"

So again, there are lots of issues surrounding the driver's license. As one previous poster put it, if you dont like the requirements to get one, dont get one. But then life actually becomes hard, and no one wants life to be hard...

--- Check out this guy who lives a (semi)normal life without a Social Security Number.

http://www.mindspring.com/~bencochran/wfh/workfrom home2.html

silly slashdot spaces.

Actually, here's a link to a pretty crappy essay that touches on some stuff in that article. If I were you, though, I'd go look it up.

Putting blocks together (any kid can do it):
More than that in modularity concept
Consistant Common Connection
And the OS to handle the software side will be the Hurd.

Putting blocks together (any kid can do it):
More than that in modularity concept
Consistant Common Connection
And the OS to handle the software side will be the Hurd.

• His recent interview with RPG.net
• An insightful writeup at GameSpy
• A fairly thorough biography of the man
• And, of course, Gary's homepage

I don't use Microsoft products (I fired MS several years ago), but on my home computer, I maintain an MS-looking desktop, so my MS-dependent friends who visit, can use my computer without bothering me about how to use thing. It's very easy to do, especially with the qvwm window manager. Unlike the examples on the qvwm page, I made a point of customizing my start menu so users knowthey're using Linux!. This may be overkill for a home user, but in an office environment, especially where an admin is switching users off MS, it would help to ease the transition.

Check out a real screenshot.

My Desktop

Guitarzan: I don't remember any AOL CD's with anything other than a .0

AC: try AOL 1.5

AOL 1.x and 2.x came only on floppy bisks, not CD. One of the first mentions on Usenet of AOL software on a CD-ROM came on April 29, 1996, in the infamous "AOL Is Sucks" posting by Saunders to alt.aol-sucks.

Time Warner is sucks.

Perhaps I'm uneducated about what all is out there currently. But it seems to me that with a common base of GNU, Open Source Software, etc.. The building of the Public Common Wealth of computer operating systems and the benefit this is providing to everyone around the world, that there should be some sort of Sponsorship type of program or organization that would help to streamline the searching for and finding, the matching up of corporate sponsors to software projects.

Would it be so bad that in return the Sponsor gets a mention in the source code and perhaps even in any "about this program" information box or command line option?

A old paper of mine that might generate some ideas

As a side note/question:

I'm trying to figure out how to present a project for Linux and the Hurd that can be used for autocodng.

But I'm uncertain as to how to present it. Any thoughs, suggestions, etc?

"The US patent office can only search things in the library of congress or their library (i.e. stuff that is patent pending or has been patented (they discard the stuff they reject)). They can't do a google search for prior art since that would leak info to google."

The USPTO had an RFC regarding Prior Art searches a few years ago. Check out Written Comment #4 (chose it from the list - it's in a .doc file located on the USPTO site but you can use this comment #4 in html)

"The US patent office can only search things in the library of congress or their library (i.e. stuff that is patent pending or has been patented (they discard the stuff they reject)). They can't do a google search for prior art since that would leak info to google."

The USPTO had an RFC regarding Prior Art searches a few years ago. Check out Written Comment #4 (chose it from the list - it's in a .doc file located on the USPTO site but you can use this comment #4 in html)

It's a great way of establishing prior art or what will become prior art, in protecting something from such constraining IP grabs.

There is a growing list of people opposing Intellectual Property constraints like copyrights and patents.
Petition Against Software Patents (I'm signer 1552... look who the signer 1551 is!). Maybe you'd like to sign too?

For more fun on the value of distributed information and how it can be used to protect, see comment #4:
Issues Related to the Identification of Prior Art During the Examination of a Patent Application
or
for an html versions of comment #4

YES! Usenet is a useful tool because it distributes along with an unbiased date time stamp.

By speeding up development the estimation of time it takes will be easier to get a grip on.

I don't claim to be a programming language creator, instead 3000+
languages in less than 50 or so years should be enough to figure out that
the limitations of programming languages are not going to be solved by
creating another one. But rather in making use of the various languages
where they best fit, thru an action set that enable the creation of
automation of language use.

Comments from the LL1 article

USPTO Article specific reference is here.
Three Primary User Interfaces

The need for speed and language barrier to break:"

What's beyond the language barrier:

What I have found odd about the Virtual Interaction Configuration as I've
attempted to explain it to others over the years, is that there is an
extreamly strong tendancy to preceive in it terms of their individual and
specific mindset focus. i.e. if one is focused into prolog, they preceive
it as a prolog function set, which causes problems in correctly
understanding the actual general action set.

It's possible that communication of the VIC to Carl Sassenrath triggered
off the creation of what is now called REBOL. And it's also very possible
that SHEEP has as well gotten inspiration from the VIC.

Noodle baking...

SHEEP article

Another SHEEP article

By speeding up development the estimation of time it takes will be easier to get a grip on.

I don't claim to be a programming language creator, instead 3000+
languages in less than 50 or so years should be enough to figure out that
the limitations of programming languages are not going to be solved by
creating another one. But rather in making use of the various languages
where they best fit, thru an action set that enable the creation of
automation of language use.

Comments from the LL1 article

USPTO Article specific reference is here.
Three Primary User Interfaces

The need for speed and language barrier to break:"

What's beyond the language barrier:

What I have found odd about the Virtual Interaction Configuration as I've
attempted to explain it to others over the years, is that there is an
extreamly strong tendancy to preceive in it terms of their individual and
specific mindset focus. i.e. if one is focused into prolog, they preceive
it as a prolog function set, which causes problems in correctly
understanding the actual general action set.

It's possible that communication of the VIC to Carl Sassenrath triggered
off the creation of what is now called REBOL. And it's also very possible
that SHEEP has as well gotten inspiration from the VIC.

Noodle baking...

SHEEP article

Another SHEEP article

The BLU-82 Commando Vault (also known as the Daisy Cutter) is a 15,000 lb. thermobaric bomb, not "hyperbaric" as he calls it (although I suppose it makes sense in the way he uses it). And they certainly aren't dropped from unmanned planes. They are pushed out on skids from the back of Special Operations C-130s (or perhaps AC-130s).

For more on the Daisy Cutter and other thermobaric weapons, check the following links:

• Fuel air explosives
• In Afghanistan
• Psychological effect
• FAE animation
• Gulf War usage

Also notable: The bomb used in the beginning of Outbreak (1995) was a fuel air explosive similar to the Daisy Cutter.

What is seen as a good idea here can be extended.

There are various facets in use in the market today, in one form or another....... i.e.

"PC monitors that detach and become portable touch-screen tablets, allowing users to roam the house reading E-mail and accessing other information stored on a PC"

and of course this threads story on extigy

........in what is described below:
(replace "Linux system" where you see "amiga"!!!!)

Enclosures

Image of a modular system

another description of the image (note Raritan is not what it was in 1997 - which was a injection molding case manufacture)

and another perspective

Certainly a musician would find it beneficial to be able to add as many channels (actual hardware modules) into his processing/recording mix system.

What is seen as a good idea here can be extended.

There are various facets in use in the market today, in one form or another....... i.e.

"PC monitors that detach and become portable touch-screen tablets, allowing users to roam the house reading E-mail and accessing other information stored on a PC"

and of course this threads story on extigy

........in what is described below:
(replace "Linux system" where you see "amiga"!!!!)

Enclosures

Image of a modular system

another description of the image (note Raritan is not what it was in 1997 - which was a injection molding case manufacture)

and another perspective

Certainly a musician would find it beneficial to be able to add as many channels (actual hardware modules) into his processing/recording mix system.

What is seen as a good idea here can be extended.

There are various facets in use in the market today, in one form or another....... i.e.

"PC monitors that detach and become portable touch-screen tablets, allowing users to roam the house reading E-mail and accessing other information stored on a PC"

and of course this threads story on extigy

........in what is described below:
(replace "Linux system" where you see "amiga"!!!!)

Enclosures

Image of a modular system

another description of the image (note Raritan is not what it was in 1997 - which was a injection molding case manufacture)

and another perspective

Certainly a musician would find it beneficial to be able to add as many channels (actual hardware modules) into his processing/recording mix system.

What is seen as a good idea here can be extended.

There are various facets in use in the market today, in one form or another....... i.e.

"PC monitors that detach and become portable touch-screen tablets, allowing users to roam the house reading E-mail and accessing other information stored on a PC"

and of course this threads story on extigy

........in what is described below:
(replace "Linux system" where you see "amiga"!!!!)

Enclosures

Image of a modular system

another description of the image (note Raritan is not what it was in 1997 - which was a injection molding case manufacture)

and another perspective

Certainly a musician would find it beneficial to be able to add as many channels (actual hardware modules) into his processing/recording mix system.

I also seem to remember a ghetto translator at one point in particularly poor taste. (no link)

Another cool approach, and the one I see moving forward, is something that generates an MP3 of a performance, with scratchy Dr Sbaitso-esque (remember Dr. Sbaitso from SoundBlaster?) voices for all the actors, with some pitch modulation to differentiate between the dramatis personae.

Seems lame, I know, but this is precisely the kind of tech that gets better and better.

How many millions is this. Oh, and by the way, this reminds me of an Umberto Eco quote regarding the
MAC vs. PC Religious war..

He didn't even bother with Linux. But his concerns of DOS being protestant apply to Linux. Or maybe he believes Linux is atheist?

Get your bets in on when people will stop trying to define what is happening here in this natural evolution of software development (using terms that are not advanced enough to correctly identify it, not to mention communicate it accurately and in simple terms.)

Man has developed societies over time, in order to deal with growing complexities of population growth. Perhaps the tower of babel was one such example where a problem developed in complexity?

But we learn how to overcome such problems (who knows maybe we will overcome the language barrier, thru some new and improved portable babelfish speach to text to speech converter).

And in overcomming such problems encountered in the growing population of society, we build upon common ground what we have as a whole.

In the software industry, where does this "common ground" that we are building upon exist?

Consider the roads/highways in the US, where would business be if there weren't such common pathways of the quality and quantity of US roads?
And where does the money to build and maintain such roads come from?

As others have correctly pointed out, software is unlike any other product, it's non-physical in essence, though recorded upon very inexpensive media, perhaps even pencil and paper.

MicroSoft is a good example of trying to build a tower of babel into the heavens.

Instead the natural evolution of software development is building the highway that can handle the weight and transport alot more than a stairway or elevator can.

When Bill Gates yelled piracy, he in effect cause a distraction, a detour of this natural evolution and by the carrot of money. But that was when the software industry was small enough to do so in even gaining money hungry followers to help sustain the distraction, the detour.

Much of this works that trys to explain what is going on here, does so based on the current market share. Look back what others were saying even 5 or 6 years ago and realize this. Then project forward and realize that companies like Microsoft who want to control the road/highway with toll stations, simply will not exist. Instead they wil be more like vechicle manufactures (or at least that's a good distraction for them at this time.)

Without this common ground highway, we simply cannot go as far as the population demands. And the population is going to do what is good for it, rather than for the self selected few who want to put up toll booths. Even governments are more and more supporting the common ground highway as they also need to travel over the highway.

But it's not just software, it's information too, but one thing at a time.

From the intro to the original Article in Wired.

"Thomas Paine was one of the first journalists to use media as a weapon against the entrenched power structure. He should be resurrected as the moral father of the Internet. Jon Katz explains why. "

Let me suggest that size and force of the "media" has simply become ubiquitous. Can't see the forest that has grown, for the single tree you are looking at one foot in front of you, Jon.

Consider this forest enabling us all to integrate information in ways that would be impossible to even dream of before, not to mention now having the ability to share that new information with others so that they can help make productive use of new integrations.

As an Example integrating the world information to the computer industry to the individual....

Yep it is! Or at least what must exist in order for there to be "Theory."

equations along with concepts

Then there is the gears and bearings that all this happens on... but you have to figure out how to get there, to that link.

This ether field, this noise state from which all else comes out of..... What is the controlling factor that decides what comes out of the noise?

Life has an aura that we can even photograph. The human brain generates energy that it uses and transmits, perhaps similar to being near high power lines and feeling the charge, but on a much different power level, in that the mind can more fully integrate with the ether/noise and cause something like a chain reaction and cause such forces to come out of the ether/noise. Like putting a filter on white noise causing some frequencies to be suppressed and others to be emphisized to get tone.

Mind over matter? OH damn! Someone has a patent on that too!

Yep it is! Or at least what must exist in order for there to be "Theory."

equations along with concepts

Then there is the gears and bearings that all this happens on... but you have to figure out how to get there, to that link.

This ether field, this noise state from which all else comes out of..... What is the controlling factor that decides what comes out of the noise?

Life has an aura that we can even photograph. The human brain generates energy that it uses and transmits, perhaps similar to being near high power lines and feeling the charge, but on a much different power level, in that the mind can more fully integrate with the ether/noise and cause something like a chain reaction and cause such forces to come out of the ether/noise. Like putting a filter on white noise causing some frequencies to be suppressed and others to be emphisized to get tone.

Mind over matter? OH damn! Someone has a patent on that too!

What the World Wants

This is really important. That is the information regarding the amount of
the world military resources being three times that needed to solve all
the major problems in the world.

The logic is along the lines of preventitive health care.

Solve the problems, take care of the world, and you greatly reduce the
probability of conflict and of course prevent large bills of warfare.

The more people that digest this information, the sooner it will happen!

with heart! 3seas

P.S. Of the many ways computer technology fits in: this may be of interest.
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Perhaps you should explore my web pages. I'd posted the url before but have been working on a new homepage.
(warning - new home page does use a little java script - will be doing a decafe version in a day of two.)
me home page

BTW, there is a history of others making claims regarding me to only prove it of themselves in the same
communication. (shrug)
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Here's the ruling.

Gene having been in the military (Navy I believe) drew alot from his
knowledge of it as well as making many contacts for obtaining more and
ongoing information.

It is more likely that Roddenberry (sp?) created fiction based upon fact
and genuine science theory than the other way around. Though at some point
there is bound to be the creative license use.

One such example of technology existing prior to use in the show is what
many would recognize as the newer type of communicators, the combadges.
As it turns out, the technology these combadges are based on has existed
since before the original Star Trek show. That technology is what you can
do a google search on "neurophone".

And having been one who got a chance to play around with a prototype, I
can say that it does in fact work and what you read about it being better
for the high end of the hearing range is correct.

But this doesn't much support the imagination to reality direction, for
Roddenberry wanted to make his show as realistice in information as he
could and often would bug NASA for technical info (and they were glad to
help because in turn the show helped gain public interest in the space
program) while incorporating current social issues into the plot of each
show.

However, there were a few shows that Roddenberry did in fact write the
plot around the concepts of moving imagination into reality. In fact "Q"
was such a character capable of such power.

The reality is that there is a truth to it. In the process of creating
anything, we must first be able to imagine it. Take the general picture
and begin filling in the details. Really not so unlike the process of
creating software.

There is even an identified formula for it:

T1 (I + E) = v T2 (k)

T1 = non-mystical thought, T2 = things in physical reality,
k = the active constant, I = degree of Intent, E = degree of Effort,
v = velocity of conversion

A formula that like any math equation, makes two statements.
Here it is: All things in physical reality can be comprehended and
all things that can be comprehended in non-mystical thought can be
created.

But it really does all begin with imagination and the application of consciousness (see concepts)

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I spelt out no details, yet you have concluded a great deal out of so little I have said (which amounts to a general goal).

I have visited your web site, inspired by the .edu address of it and how it relates to the story this thread is a response to.

Perhaps you should visit mine? Let me suggest the "concepts" section of this web page

This way it just might be possible to design IP "can" based laws that work to genuinely advance technology, rather than being used to restrict and control technology and who benefits or not.

Gotta start with the general idea and then work on filling in the details. That's how creation works, even in the 3 most popular religions in the world.

Perhaps you have another reason for being opposed?
Are you somehow personally benefiting from "cannot" based IP laws?

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