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Are you sure? I had zero problems using flash and java in Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox if the browser itself was installed via their executable installer which automatically adds the necessary registry keys for any plugin such as Shockwave Flash and Java to find FireFox and install itself correctly into its plugins folder.

Why spend $20 on a popup killer if you can download Mozilla for free? Seriously, I don't get it.

Yes. Mozilla. It does not have this vulnerability nor any of the numerous other unpatched IE security vulnerabilites. Plus it offers nice tabbed browsing and a working popup blocker. It works on all operating systems and is free. There's really no reason not to use it.

Once word: Firefox

Easy! Get a good browser and dump that piece of junk Internet Exploder!

Cheesy marketing drivel, yes, but with a grain of truth. At the risk of being moded down to Hades by Mac lovers, let me very carefully point out that to some of us, OS X is not the operating system to end all operating systems. It has some problems (like a clumsy finder that dumps its bloody .DS_Store files all over every filesystem it can get its hands on), some severe limitations (like a Mail program that doesn't do TLS), and lacks important capabilities (no well-integrated office program except MS Office).

Don't get me wrong, OS X is probably the best operating system available for pure-consumer type users. When my co-worker complained to me a few days ago that he caught some sort of dialer virus thingy, I told him (politely) to get rid of the problem (Microsoft) and buy a Mac. Is Linux for him? No. He would be very happy with Apple's closed-world, choice-is-bad philosophy.

Some of us, however, like choice, and don't want to, say, pay extra for modern features like virtual desktops that Apple's engineers consider too confusing for us and are covered by shareware. I want a modern mailer (good grief, even the 0.5 BETA of Mozilla Thunderbird has TLS), I want Konqueror instead of the brain-damaged Finder, I want my right-click-lelf-click-done! mouse back. But I love the hardware: My iBook G4 is quiet under heavy loads, for example, and battery life is good.

Linux on a PowerPC gives you the best of both worlds -- even more so because you can use Mac-on-Linux to run your Mac OS X applications from inside Linux. Nobody is talking about wiping OS X off the computer (well, except maybe for this guy), because, remember, though Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are jealous computer gods, Linus is not. I did dual-boot for years with Windows before swiching completely. You can have your cake and eat it, too.

A lot of Mac people I have gotten to know after buying my iBook have no idea how good KDE and Gnome have become, they seem to think that Linux users still have to figure out the refresh parameters for X11 by hand. With more and more Linux people moving to PowerPC hardware, I think we'll see more discussions between OS X and Linux users. Linux can give OS X a good run for its mon-, er, can force Apple to try harder, a lot harder, in fact. And that is good for Mac fans, too.

Mozilla Thunderbird has made a considerable effort to make S/MIME easy to use. Although not enabled by default, it's just a preferences checkbox away. I vaguely remember hearing that they came a hair's breadth from making it the default.

I certainly have noticed a significant increase in the number of S/MIME signed emails from Mozilla email clients showing up in the various newsgroups that I subscribe to.

Once they get to a certain level of installed base, it'll be fairly easy for your average internet user to not even notice that they're using S/MIME. This has the potential to go way beyond the short lived fad that PGP turned out to be and get to the point where many emails get completely encrypted automatically because both parties have sent signed messages to each other in the past.

Mozilla was originally the name for the Netscape internet browser. When Marc Andreesen developed the replacement for Mosaic, the first proper web browser, it was named Mozilla (Mosaic-Killer, Godzilla). The marketing guys at his new company decided to change it to Netscape Navigator, but the original core of developers kept the name.

Then a bunch of stuff happened, AOL bought Netscape, but at that point the source code had been released into the wild under its original name, "Mozilla". The team of developers working on Mozilla are in some cases the original Netscape team, with the additional benefit (depending on who you ask) of a slew of contribitors.

Mozilla is the name of their full-featured internet suite, much like Netscape had its Communicator edition that bundled email and newsgroups. But for people who just want an internet browser, they offer a trimmed-down version called FireFox (previously Firebird, Phoenix). As to your question:

Does that mean that Mozilla 1.7 will have Firefox 1.0 as it's browser?

The answer is: sort of. The Mozilla "core" includes some things you may have heard about like the Gecko rendering engine. FireFox is based on Mozilla's core, not the other way around. But FireFox is an independant development from Mozilla's internet browser, which is called Sea Monkey.

I know it can get a little confusing. This list of the different Mozilla components combined with this list of the different browsers based off the Mozilla core should put some faces to the names.

Man, I feel like an idiot asking this...

Feel like an idiot if you hadn't asked it.

Mozilla was originally the name for the Netscape internet browser. When Marc Andreesen developed the replacement for Mosaic, the first proper web browser, it was named Mozilla (Mosaic-Killer, Godzilla). The marketing guys at his new company decided to change it to Netscape Navigator, but the original core of developers kept the name.

Then a bunch of stuff happened, AOL bought Netscape, but at that point the source code had been released into the wild under its original name, "Mozilla". The team of developers working on Mozilla are in some cases the original Netscape team, with the additional benefit (depending on who you ask) of a slew of contribitors.

Mozilla is the name of their full-featured internet suite, much like Netscape had its Communicator edition that bundled email and newsgroups. But for people who just want an internet browser, they offer a trimmed-down version called FireFox (previously Firebird, Phoenix). As to your question:

Does that mean that Mozilla 1.7 will have Firefox 1.0 as it's browser?

The answer is: sort of. The Mozilla "core" includes some things you may have heard about like the Gecko rendering engine. FireFox is based on Mozilla's core, not the other way around. But FireFox is an independant development from Mozilla's internet browser, which is called Sea Monkey.

I know it can get a little confusing. This list of the different Mozilla components combined with this list of the different browsers based off the Mozilla core should put some faces to the names.

Man, I feel like an idiot asking this...

Feel like an idiot if you hadn't asked it.

Mozilla was originally the name for the Netscape internet browser. When Marc Andreesen developed the replacement for Mosaic, the first proper web browser, it was named Mozilla (Mosaic-Killer, Godzilla). The marketing guys at his new company decided to change it to Netscape Navigator, but the original core of developers kept the name.

Then a bunch of stuff happened, AOL bought Netscape, but at that point the source code had been released into the wild under its original name, "Mozilla". The team of developers working on Mozilla are in some cases the original Netscape team, with the additional benefit (depending on who you ask) of a slew of contribitors.

Mozilla is the name of their full-featured internet suite, much like Netscape had its Communicator edition that bundled email and newsgroups. But for people who just want an internet browser, they offer a trimmed-down version called FireFox (previously Firebird, Phoenix). As to your question:

Does that mean that Mozilla 1.7 will have Firefox 1.0 as it's browser?

The answer is: sort of. The Mozilla "core" includes some things you may have heard about like the Gecko rendering engine. FireFox is based on Mozilla's core, not the other way around. But FireFox is an independant development from Mozilla's internet browser, which is called Sea Monkey.

I know it can get a little confusing. This list of the different Mozilla components combined with this list of the different browsers based off the Mozilla core should put some faces to the names.

Man, I feel like an idiot asking this...

Feel like an idiot if you hadn't asked it.

At least your bug may be fixed. I don't think anyone is working on the two bugs that bug (heh) me the most:

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188706 left and right arrow keys in a textarea don't move cursor properly on very long lines
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238112 Focus is not set correctly when closing tabs

The first bug can be a real problem when using Thunderbird (or posting to slashdot). The second one no one has even acknowledged :(

At least your bug may be fixed. I don't think anyone is working on the two bugs that bug (heh) me the most:

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188706 left and right arrow keys in a textarea don't move cursor properly on very long lines
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238112 Focus is not set correctly when closing tabs

The first bug can be a real problem when using Thunderbird (or posting to slashdot). The second one no one has even acknowledged :(

It's happened. Corrupted profiles happen.

It's been noted HERE in fact.
Yeah, it's from 1.0 but the issue can still occur, especially if a crash causes it.

1. Go to about:config.
2. Select "Print Preview"
3. Crash.

That would be bug 218304 ("Print preview of about:config crashes"). FWIW, you'll have to copy-n-paste the address into your URL bar since Bugzilla refuses Slashdot referers.

> I think Phoenix was always supposed to be an internal codename like Whistler or Longhorn.

The slight difference between the two names is that Phoenix wasn't trademarked. Firefox is. They spent a lot of effort on finding a proper name and trademarking it and are not going to abandon it anytime soon.

They are keeping the name Mozilla Firefox. See the Firefox roadmap if you don't believe me:
"Firefox 1.0 will be called simply "Mozilla Firefox"... or "Firefox" for short."

what exactly does it take to crash Mozilla these days?

recommending mozilla as a more standards compliant browser can be tricky when it introduces it's own browser specific html elements: parsererror and sourcetext.

either element crashes ALL version of mozilla 1.x

see the source for yourself, or my previous post for the bugzilla reference.

- p

A partial fix to that problem has recently been checked in, and they're continuing to work on it. The bug is here, though as I recall bugzilla.mozilla.org doesn't let you link directly from Slashdot, so you might have to copy & paste.

It really is one of the most annoying Mozilla bugs though, so I hope it gets fully fixed soon.

You can help make this a great release, by downloading the beta and reporting crashes through Talkback.

Official torrent here.

Here's your answer (from the roadmap):

We are not retiring the SeaMonkey [Mozilla] application suite, or its XPFE front end, in the foreseeable future. Several companies have shipped and will ship products based on this venerable component of the application suite, and on the entire suite. Many organizations deploy it or a derivative of it, such as Netscape 7.x. We intend to keep supporting these deployments in at least a conservative, sustaining engineering fashion. However, we still intend to focus on evolving Mozilla toward the more flexible application architecture pioneered by Firefox and Thunderbird. That's where our innovative engineering effort should go.

Mozilla is not a technology preview. Note on mozilla.org it is listed above the line which says "Technology Previews". It's a stable product, suitable for consumer use.

You are correct in saying that Firefox, Thunderbird and Camino are all technology previews.

Gerv

While you're waiting, feel free to check out a nightly, it'll give you a good idea what's instore for .8, and will be years, well, months at least, more stable than .7:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/camino/nigh tly/latest/

CB

If you are still using Camino .7, go grab one one of these.

You will be amazed at the changes.

Warning: Sometimes the daily is a bit of a mess, but I use it daily ;)

Safe and Secure
Unlike many other products, Mozilla Thunderbird doesn't allow scripts to run by default.

True.

I fear that Microsoft is just trying to keep some token competitors around for the sole purpose of avoiding antitrust claims, while at the same time making sure that their "competitors" cannot actually threaten their entrenched monopoly position.

E.G. they get to rake in all the cash benefits of being a monopoly, while still being able to point to "competitors" which cannot actually threaten their monopoly position any longer and which simply protect them from antitrust complaints...

All the while, while faced with anemic "competitors," they could then claim that they do have competition but that they remain in their position because their products are "better."

In spite of deals like the one with AOL/Time Warner to use IE instead of Netscape/Mozilla, when IE is a total piece of crap (it has the worst security record of any web browser, period). Hell, I still remember being scandalized the first few times I heard about holes in IE that could lead to total compromise of a system. The worst I remember for any other browser offhand is the possibility of leaking cookies or weaknesses in their cryptography and such, none of which are even remotely comparable...

Oh well. There's not a damned thing I can do about any of this monopoly business, but ever since I started teaching basic internet courses to the community here, I've been able to at least tell them where and how to get Mozilla, and why they should never, ever use the piece of crap that is IE :]

That's Bug # 236755

Mozilla's "kiosk mode" is also intended for just such uses, and worthy cause or not the price is exactly US$0.00.

Well, you could go down to some used computer shop and pick up a $50 Pentium or 486 PC with Windows 95 on it, and a cheap 14" sub-$50 SVGA monitor, and put one of these combos on there. As long as you've got those minimum specs, you should be able to do any of these. Except for #3, which requires much beefier hardware.

1) Powerpoint ($$)
2) OpenOffice (Free) with either its Impress component, or Impress plus its built-in Flash movie (SWF) exporter (for which you will need the plugin, which is free) plus Mozilla (Free)
3) Flash development software ($$$) + Flash Plugin (Free) + Mozilla (Free) - note that this would require a much beefier system probably costing $300 or more.

So, you can do this for less than $100. That's about as cheap as you're going to get unless you do the VCR+TV idea someone else had.

Sorry about mentioning Powerpoint, but it's cheaper than Flash Studio for your purpose. Although, why would you use either of those when you can use OpenOffice for free?

The choice is up to you - hopefully my info will be useful in making that decision.

Well, you could go down to some used computer shop and pick up a $50 Pentium or 486 PC with Windows 95 on it, and a cheap 14" sub-$50 SVGA monitor, and put one of these combos on there. As long as you've got those minimum specs, you should be able to do any of these. Except for #3, which requires much beefier hardware.

1) Powerpoint ($$)
2) OpenOffice (Free) with either its Impress component, or Impress plus its built-in Flash movie (SWF) exporter (for which you will need the plugin, which is free) plus Mozilla (Free)
3) Flash development software ($$$) + Flash Plugin (Free) + Mozilla (Free) - note that this would require a much beefier system probably costing $300 or more.

So, you can do this for less than $100. That's about as cheap as you're going to get unless you do the VCR+TV idea someone else had.

Sorry about mentioning Powerpoint, but it's cheaper than Flash Studio for your purpose. Although, why would you use either of those when you can use OpenOffice for free?

The choice is up to you - hopefully my info will be useful in making that decision.

Building a complex application from source is not trivial. Not only must the application be compiled, but the tools used to build it must be built. Unfortunately, OpenBSD, the tools, and the application are all evolving, and often, getting all the pieces working together is a challenge. Once everything works, a revision in any of the pieces the next day could render it broken. Every six months, as a new release of OpenBSD is made, an effort is made to test the building of every port on every platform, but during the development cycle it is likely that some ports will break.

In addition to having all the pieces work together, there is just the matter of time and resources required to compile some applications from source. A common example is CVSup, a tool commonly used to track the OpenBSD source tree. To install CVSup on a moderately fast system with a good Internet connection may take only about ten seconds -- the time required to download and unpack a single 511kB package file. In contrast, building CVSup on the same machine from source is a huge task, requiring many tools and bootstrapping a compiler, takes almost half an hour on the same machine. Other applications, such as Mozilla or KDE may take hours and huge amounts of disk space and RAM/swap to build. Why go through this much time and effort, when the programs are already compiled and sitting on your CD-ROM or FTP mirror, waiting to be used?

Of course, there are a few good reasons to use ports over packages in some cases:

• Distribution rules prohibit OpenBSD from distributing a package.
• You wish to modify or debug the application or study its source code.
• You need a FLAVOR of a port that is not built by the OpenBSD ports team.
• You wish to alter the directory layout (i.e., modifying PREFIX or SYSCONFDIR)

You, Sir, are watching way too many TV ads...

Since 20 months I am on search for The Office package.

I just bought my first iBook (I'm a Linux native), and I agree that there is no good office package for Apple. AppleWorks is a joke, AbiWord doesn't do enough, and OpenOffice.org has to be fed through Apple's rather klutzy X implementation.

But make no mistake: This is Apple's problem, not OpenOffice.org's. There is no serious office package for Mac OS X except for MS Office -- but there is no way I am going to pay that much money, and I'm one of those old-fashioned people who things stealing is wrong. Given that OS X's Mail is too primitive (no TLS, so im using Mozilla Thunderbird), Safari doesn't work with online banking (so I'm using Mozilla FireFox), DVD Player is anal about region codes (so I'm using VLC, which has better quality anyway), I don't see much point in Mac OS X over Linux KDE 3.2 -- living without virtual desktops is simply hell, Expose or not. As soon as YDL gets sleep to work on the iBook, Linux it is again.

Apple is making a big mistake by not dumping AppleWorks and putting its programers to work on porting OpenOffice.org to OS X. They are not going to build a good office suite on their own, any more than they are going to make a good OS on their own. OpenOffice.org is there to help them, just as BSD was there to help them with the OS. Financing Microsoft through Office doesn't seem like a clever move.

On a more general note: One of the interesting things about native Mac users is that they are so in love with OS X they don't realize how Linux & Co are breathing down their necks, too. There seems to be a belief that Linux can only replace Windows, not OS X -- a form of "can't happen here" that is just fascinating. Apple is going to have to pedal really hard to stay ahead of KDE and Gnome, especially now since Novell, Sun, and (maybe) IBM are getting serious about the desktop: Mac OS X 10.3 is okay and flashy, but there is little there that won't be in KDE in a year, too.

Here's an enhancement request I filed for Firefox. This is something I think would be a nice use of Baysian filtering.

* { font-face: arial !important; font-size: 12pt !important; }
h1 { font-size: 130% !important; }
h2 { font-size: 120% !important; }
h3 { font-size: 110% !important; }

Many people here claim that this will backfire mainly because it will annoy everyone.
this is not true,
let me demonstrate with a little gedanken experiment.

1) would these popups annoy you ?
2) would you have considered voting for GW if it were'nt for those popups?

I think that this campaign is better targetted than one may think.
Remember that if spam & aggressive marketing were not economically viable, they would not exist
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i'll stop here, because the next conclusion is not PC, (actually though i believe that conclusion, it would (rightly so) be considered flamebait)

--
now, (OT) since nobody mentioned THIS favorite blocker... (i also use it to block flash advertisement, which is the best feature in the history of browsers)

It uses Javascript to detect the browser. (not the browser's string). Rather then get something wrong, refer to this bug:

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213450

--Sam

Actually, troll, I was using Mozilla Firefox.

The only seriously annoying thing about OOo is that they have decided to postpone the Mac OS X version until kingdom come, and I have to fool around with 1.0 via Apple's X11 program. This is partially Apple's problem, too: If they had any sense, they'd get rid of AppleWorks and MS Office for X and push OOo.

OOo, Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla Thunderbird put you in the wonderful situation of not having to give a damn about which operating system you use. This is terrible for Microsoft, of course, but great news for the rest of the world. We can now concentrate on fighting about other and far more important things -- like who makes the best chocolate bars, or who is the cutest witch on TV, or which sequal to the "Matrix" was the worst...

what am i talking about? this..

3) Lack of roadmap

Lack of roadmap, huh. Tell that to mozilla or open office or MySQL or Gnome or perl or
Fedora I could go on, but I think you get the point.

Of course, I prefer a different term than "roadmap" -- vaporware.

Yup, I remember that. I grew up in that. And I, ever the agent for change, was one of the principle students actively working to break the Apple monopoly and get Windows computers installed as well, mainly because at that time Windows tended to piss me off just a little bit less.

Now, of course, I am learning that life has a wicked sense of humour, and have spent the last 5 years or so prying the beasty Microsoft fingers from my family and friends, mostly in the area of moving them off IE/OE and onto Mozilla, or maybe even off Office and onto Abiword or OpenOffice. And of course, I am still personally a bit of a geek - my entire music collection is in Ogg Vorbis, and I usually run some distro of Linux on my home box. But I'm much more even tempered - I keep Windows and Office around for my wife's grad school studies, because that just makes more sense, and try to stick with the battles that win themselves (Mozilla vs IE/OE) rather than those that are uphill (Linux vs. Windows) with others.

MSFT claims that an additional cost of using OO is that it doesn't come with an email client, unlike Office (Outlook), so 'customers may incur a licensing cost associated with buying an email application'. I think it is noteworthy to point out that there are many free email clients, notably Evolution and KMail on Linux, and Mozilla Mail, Scribe, Mahogany, and YAMM for Windows/cross platform.

Mozilla has a nice Calendar extension you can use for scheduling: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/

Brian

Firefox is a huge step for Mozilla, and if it works for you great. But until IE and windows quit working for me or a more usable alternitave comes around I am going to keep using them.

Respect to MS for fixing the problem only 2 days later.

It's not the first and won't be the last IE exploit! Be prepared! Don't buy into the monoculture - use "second tier" software whenever possible. Mozilla Firefox is a fantastic free web browser with many security features and simple toggles. Eprompter is an excellent, simple, and free POP3\Hotmail\webmail client that lets you delete messages server-side before you open\view them.

Most important of all, keep up-to-date with Slashdot and other news services to stay aware of new vulnerabilities!

I guess Mozilla never has security issues?

"firewalls create problems while performing daily business tasks on the server from home"

Not a well-configured software one. It's not as safe as a hardware firewall, but it is a heck of a lot safer than running around with your pants down, not knowing when your machine is connecting and what it is sending. It makes it difficult to connect *to* the machine, but your home winbox shouldn't be a remote server anyway.

Grab ZoneAlarm NOW, and put up with a few extra dialog boxes until it is trained.

Furthermore, good Antivirus software will detect many trojans. Get AVG if you have alredy abandoned your AV of choice.

This must sound like free windows security 101 by now, but get AdAware and / or Spybot, and schedule a regular download / check for once every week.

For encrypting sensitive or old data, you can either use windows built-in encryption (which uses your user password, enable this now if your machine is fast enough) and / or pick up a (non-free) copy of Dekart Private Disk, AKA The Bat! Private Disk, a simple encrypted virtual disk creator. Anything you really don't want people to see should go here... Just remember to shut it down when you're done.

Furthermore, don't use I.E. and don't use Outlook. What many people refer to as "computer" viruses or "windows" exploits are really just I.E. exploits or Outlook viruses. Firebird, I mean, Thun... Firefox is a powerful little internet surfer, which while not as flexible as my beloved Opera (ducks), does render pages faster, is more beginner friendly, and is free. Thunderbird is a good mail replacement, though pegasus mail, Opera's built in e-mail client, and the non-free The Bat! are all good choices. If you want the most security possible, try Secure Bat. At 140 dollars per copy, it isn't cheap, but it does encrypt all of your personal files and utilizes hardware token authentication to ensure that you really are who you say you are.

Finally, don't forget to regularly back up your disks to something not normally connected to the computer. For simplicity's sake, I'd attach an external USB drive and run Polder Backup once a week, removing the drive when done. For a more automated approach, get a PC controllable X10 unit, and have it turn on and off the external USB drive, so that backups can be completely automatic.

"firewalls create problems while performing daily business tasks on the server from home"

Not a well-configured software one. It's not as safe as a hardware firewall, but it is a heck of a lot safer than running around with your pants down, not knowing when your machine is connecting and what it is sending. It makes it difficult to connect *to* the machine, but your home winbox shouldn't be a remote server anyway.

Grab ZoneAlarm NOW, and put up with a few extra dialog boxes until it is trained.

Furthermore, good Antivirus software will detect many trojans. Get AVG if you have alredy abandoned your AV of choice.

This must sound like free windows security 101 by now, but get AdAware and / or Spybot, and schedule a regular download / check for once every week.

For encrypting sensitive or old data, you can either use windows built-in encryption (which uses your user password, enable this now if your machine is fast enough) and / or pick up a (non-free) copy of Dekart Private Disk, AKA The Bat! Private Disk, a simple encrypted virtual disk creator. Anything you really don't want people to see should go here... Just remember to shut it down when you're done.

Furthermore, don't use I.E. and don't use Outlook. What many people refer to as "computer" viruses or "windows" exploits are really just I.E. exploits or Outlook viruses. Firebird, I mean, Thun... Firefox is a powerful little internet surfer, which while not as flexible as my beloved Opera (ducks), does render pages faster, is more beginner friendly, and is free. Thunderbird is a good mail replacement, though pegasus mail, Opera's built in e-mail client, and the non-free The Bat! are all good choices. If you want the most security possible, try Secure Bat. At 140 dollars per copy, it isn't cheap, but it does encrypt all of your personal files and utilizes hardware token authentication to ensure that you really are who you say you are.

Finally, don't forget to regularly back up your disks to something not normally connected to the computer. For simplicity's sake, I'd attach an external USB drive and run Polder Backup once a week, removing the drive when done. For a more automated approach, get a PC controllable X10 unit, and have it turn on and off the external USB drive, so that backups can be completely automatic.

A few things:

1. Add a firewall if you don't have one. IPCop on an old Pentium will work (and be less hassle hardware-wise than the 386 or 486 it could also run on), which you can probably get for free by asking around.

2. Encrypt the data on your hard-drive. DriveCrypt looks pretty good for that and can encrypt the entire drive as well as specific directories.

3. PGP/GPG-sign your email. Thunderbird does this with a simple plugin (takes about 15 minutes to set up). The commercial PGP works with Outlook if that's what you use and won't change.

4. Get rid of Outlook and Outlook Express. These two email programs are major security holes. There is little that Thunderbird can't do for email, and for scheduling use something like the old Lotus Approach or Microsoft Schedule+.

5. Use DVD-RAM for data backups to give you the reliability you need when you have to cover your back.

Damien

SVG is very useful on its own, but having an open alternative to Flash would be even better. SMIL, a W3C Recommended standard for adding timing and animation to things like SVG and XHTML, is that alternative.

The Mozilla team has (wrongly, IMO) decided to leave full SMIL implementation to plugins. However, the W3C has designated a subset of the SMIL 2.0 modules as being suitable for integration with XHTML, which is obviously functionality that belongs in the browser and is already available in IE6.

To keep Mozilla competitive, allow SVG to reach its full potential, and help kill Flash, I'd like to encourage everyone to vote for two Bugzilla bugs:

• XHTML+SMIL support in mozilla
• Implement SVG (SMIL) Animation

If you don't already have a Bugzilla account, you can get one painlessly -- if you use Mozilla you owe it to the community to help direct the project.

SVG is very useful on its own, but having an open alternative to Flash would be even better. SMIL, a W3C Recommended standard for adding timing and animation to things like SVG and XHTML, is that alternative.

The Mozilla team has (wrongly, IMO) decided to leave full SMIL implementation to plugins. However, the W3C has designated a subset of the SMIL 2.0 modules as being suitable for integration with XHTML, which is obviously functionality that belongs in the browser and is already available in IE6.

To keep Mozilla competitive, allow SVG to reach its full potential, and help kill Flash, I'd like to encourage everyone to vote for two Bugzilla bugs:

• XHTML+SMIL support in mozilla
• Implement SVG (SMIL) Animation

If you don't already have a Bugzilla account, you can get one painlessly -- if you use Mozilla you owe it to the community to help direct the project.

SVG is very useful on its own, but having an open alternative to Flash would be even better. SMIL, a W3C Recommended standard for adding timing and animation to things like SVG and XHTML, is that alternative.

The Mozilla team has (wrongly, IMO) decided to leave full SMIL implementation to plugins. However, the W3C has designated a subset of the SMIL 2.0 modules as being suitable for integration with XHTML, which is obviously functionality that belongs in the browser and is already available in IE6.

To keep Mozilla competitive, allow SVG to reach its full potential, and help kill Flash, I'd like to encourage everyone to vote for two Bugzilla bugs:

• XHTML+SMIL support in mozilla
• Implement SVG (SMIL) Animation

If you don't already have a Bugzilla account, you can get one painlessly -- if you use Mozilla you owe it to the community to help direct the project.