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Re:Well, they better start coding now...
There's nothing stopping you from building a 4 socket x 12 core Opteron system today... except for maybe your budget.
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x faster
Ok, thanks! (I didn't notice because the last 2 servers I've built I OC'd so I had to get a different cooling solution anyway.)
For the Socket G34:
Dynatron A6 77mm heatsink/fan $34.99
For the Socket LGA 1366:
Intel BXSTS100C heatsink/fan $29.99. Be warned: most of the reviewers don't like this one because it's loud, but it's the only one I could find rated at 130W TDP. -
Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x faster
Ok, thanks! (I didn't notice because the last 2 servers I've built I OC'd so I had to get a different cooling solution anyway.)
For the Socket G34:
Dynatron A6 77mm heatsink/fan $34.99
For the Socket LGA 1366:
Intel BXSTS100C heatsink/fan $29.99. Be warned: most of the reviewers don't like this one because it's loud, but it's the only one I could find rated at 130W TDP. -
Re:And 3 hours after reading this...
Not to burst you bubble too much but if you search say newegg for lga775 and DDR3 memory you get a bunch of choices. As for as USB3 and SATA3 I think you are right.
The url with the search is kind of long sorry:
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x fasterHmm, just for fun I priced out the highest end systems I could find on newegg:
This is just what it would take to boot the board. They have identical on-board video chips which are great for KVM-over-IP but you may want a different graphics card, and then there's RAID, an optical drive, etc.
AMD- ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
(There's something fishy going on with Tyan's boards. I read some pretty bad reviews on newegg a month ago but now they have all disappeared) - Opteron 6174 2.2GHz 115W 12-Core 2 * $1299
(Personally I would have gotten the Opteron 6128 2.0GHz 115W 8-Core: $280.99) - Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
(Personally I would get a different case and an Anteq TPQ-1200 1200W PSU for $249.99) - Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the Intel comparison)
Skip the DVD and hard drive(s) since that should not affect the comparison.
Total price: $3,439.96
Intel- ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 motherboard $249.99
(Put a fan over the intel 5500 northbridge. It doesn't come with one. It needs it. Also note you can only use up to triple-channel DDR3. The AMD setup above goes to quad-channel DDR3.)
(Note the quad 1207(F) motherboards wouldn't be an apples-to-apples comparison. A quad-6-core system will lose to a dual-12-core system anytime.) - Westmere 3.33GHz 6-core 130W 2 * $1723.15
- Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
- Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the AMD comparison)
Total price: $4,098.26
Conclusion: AMD's Magny-cours option is awesome at the high end. Best of all is its price. Anandtech sums it up: "Here the choice is less clear. At this point, we believe both server CPUs consume about the same power, so that does not help either to make up our minds. It will depend on how the OEMs price their servers."
Newegg prices put things way over on the AMD side of things. What am I missing? - ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x fasterHmm, just for fun I priced out the highest end systems I could find on newegg:
This is just what it would take to boot the board. They have identical on-board video chips which are great for KVM-over-IP but you may want a different graphics card, and then there's RAID, an optical drive, etc.
AMD- ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
(There's something fishy going on with Tyan's boards. I read some pretty bad reviews on newegg a month ago but now they have all disappeared) - Opteron 6174 2.2GHz 115W 12-Core 2 * $1299
(Personally I would have gotten the Opteron 6128 2.0GHz 115W 8-Core: $280.99) - Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
(Personally I would get a different case and an Anteq TPQ-1200 1200W PSU for $249.99) - Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the Intel comparison)
Skip the DVD and hard drive(s) since that should not affect the comparison.
Total price: $3,439.96
Intel- ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 motherboard $249.99
(Put a fan over the intel 5500 northbridge. It doesn't come with one. It needs it. Also note you can only use up to triple-channel DDR3. The AMD setup above goes to quad-channel DDR3.)
(Note the quad 1207(F) motherboards wouldn't be an apples-to-apples comparison. A quad-6-core system will lose to a dual-12-core system anytime.) - Westmere 3.33GHz 6-core 130W 2 * $1723.15
- Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
- Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the AMD comparison)
Total price: $4,098.26
Conclusion: AMD's Magny-cours option is awesome at the high end. Best of all is its price. Anandtech sums it up: "Here the choice is less clear. At this point, we believe both server CPUs consume about the same power, so that does not help either to make up our minds. It will depend on how the OEMs price their servers."
Newegg prices put things way over on the AMD side of things. What am I missing? - ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x fasterHmm, just for fun I priced out the highest end systems I could find on newegg:
This is just what it would take to boot the board. They have identical on-board video chips which are great for KVM-over-IP but you may want a different graphics card, and then there's RAID, an optical drive, etc.
AMD- ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
(There's something fishy going on with Tyan's boards. I read some pretty bad reviews on newegg a month ago but now they have all disappeared) - Opteron 6174 2.2GHz 115W 12-Core 2 * $1299
(Personally I would have gotten the Opteron 6128 2.0GHz 115W 8-Core: $280.99) - Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
(Personally I would get a different case and an Anteq TPQ-1200 1200W PSU for $249.99) - Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the Intel comparison)
Skip the DVD and hard drive(s) since that should not affect the comparison.
Total price: $3,439.96
Intel- ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 motherboard $249.99
(Put a fan over the intel 5500 northbridge. It doesn't come with one. It needs it. Also note you can only use up to triple-channel DDR3. The AMD setup above goes to quad-channel DDR3.)
(Note the quad 1207(F) motherboards wouldn't be an apples-to-apples comparison. A quad-6-core system will lose to a dual-12-core system anytime.) - Westmere 3.33GHz 6-core 130W 2 * $1723.15
- Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
- Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the AMD comparison)
Total price: $4,098.26
Conclusion: AMD's Magny-cours option is awesome at the high end. Best of all is its price. Anandtech sums it up: "Here the choice is less clear. At this point, we believe both server CPUs consume about the same power, so that does not help either to make up our minds. It will depend on how the OEMs price their servers."
Newegg prices put things way over on the AMD side of things. What am I missing? - ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x fasterHmm, just for fun I priced out the highest end systems I could find on newegg:
This is just what it would take to boot the board. They have identical on-board video chips which are great for KVM-over-IP but you may want a different graphics card, and then there's RAID, an optical drive, etc.
AMD- ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
(There's something fishy going on with Tyan's boards. I read some pretty bad reviews on newegg a month ago but now they have all disappeared) - Opteron 6174 2.2GHz 115W 12-Core 2 * $1299
(Personally I would have gotten the Opteron 6128 2.0GHz 115W 8-Core: $280.99) - Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
(Personally I would get a different case and an Anteq TPQ-1200 1200W PSU for $249.99) - Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the Intel comparison)
Skip the DVD and hard drive(s) since that should not affect the comparison.
Total price: $3,439.96
Intel- ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 motherboard $249.99
(Put a fan over the intel 5500 northbridge. It doesn't come with one. It needs it. Also note you can only use up to triple-channel DDR3. The AMD setup above goes to quad-channel DDR3.)
(Note the quad 1207(F) motherboards wouldn't be an apples-to-apples comparison. A quad-6-core system will lose to a dual-12-core system anytime.) - Westmere 3.33GHz 6-core 130W 2 * $1723.15
- Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
- Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the AMD comparison)
Total price: $4,098.26
Conclusion: AMD's Magny-cours option is awesome at the high end. Best of all is its price. Anandtech sums it up: "Here the choice is less clear. At this point, we believe both server CPUs consume about the same power, so that does not help either to make up our minds. It will depend on how the OEMs price their servers."
Newegg prices put things way over on the AMD side of things. What am I missing? - ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x fasterHmm, just for fun I priced out the highest end systems I could find on newegg:
This is just what it would take to boot the board. They have identical on-board video chips which are great for KVM-over-IP but you may want a different graphics card, and then there's RAID, an optical drive, etc.
AMD- ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
(There's something fishy going on with Tyan's boards. I read some pretty bad reviews on newegg a month ago but now they have all disappeared) - Opteron 6174 2.2GHz 115W 12-Core 2 * $1299
(Personally I would have gotten the Opteron 6128 2.0GHz 115W 8-Core: $280.99) - Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
(Personally I would get a different case and an Anteq TPQ-1200 1200W PSU for $249.99) - Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the Intel comparison)
Skip the DVD and hard drive(s) since that should not affect the comparison.
Total price: $3,439.96
Intel- ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 motherboard $249.99
(Put a fan over the intel 5500 northbridge. It doesn't come with one. It needs it. Also note you can only use up to triple-channel DDR3. The AMD setup above goes to quad-channel DDR3.)
(Note the quad 1207(F) motherboards wouldn't be an apples-to-apples comparison. A quad-6-core system will lose to a dual-12-core system anytime.) - Westmere 3.33GHz 6-core 130W 2 * $1723.15
- Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
- Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the AMD comparison)
Total price: $4,098.26
Conclusion: AMD's Magny-cours option is awesome at the high end. Best of all is its price. Anandtech sums it up: "Here the choice is less clear. At this point, we believe both server CPUs consume about the same power, so that does not help either to make up our minds. It will depend on how the OEMs price their servers."
Newegg prices put things way over on the AMD side of things. What am I missing? - ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x fasterHmm, just for fun I priced out the highest end systems I could find on newegg:
This is just what it would take to boot the board. They have identical on-board video chips which are great for KVM-over-IP but you may want a different graphics card, and then there's RAID, an optical drive, etc.
AMD- ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
(There's something fishy going on with Tyan's boards. I read some pretty bad reviews on newegg a month ago but now they have all disappeared) - Opteron 6174 2.2GHz 115W 12-Core 2 * $1299
(Personally I would have gotten the Opteron 6128 2.0GHz 115W 8-Core: $280.99) - Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
(Personally I would get a different case and an Anteq TPQ-1200 1200W PSU for $249.99) - Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the Intel comparison)
Skip the DVD and hard drive(s) since that should not affect the comparison.
Total price: $3,439.96
Intel- ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 motherboard $249.99
(Put a fan over the intel 5500 northbridge. It doesn't come with one. It needs it. Also note you can only use up to triple-channel DDR3. The AMD setup above goes to quad-channel DDR3.)
(Note the quad 1207(F) motherboards wouldn't be an apples-to-apples comparison. A quad-6-core system will lose to a dual-12-core system anytime.) - Westmere 3.33GHz 6-core 130W 2 * $1723.15
- Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
- Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the AMD comparison)
Total price: $4,098.26
Conclusion: AMD's Magny-cours option is awesome at the high end. Best of all is its price. Anandtech sums it up: "Here the choice is less clear. At this point, we believe both server CPUs consume about the same power, so that does not help either to make up our minds. It will depend on how the OEMs price their servers."
Newegg prices put things way over on the AMD side of things. What am I missing? - ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x fasterHmm, just for fun I priced out the highest end systems I could find on newegg:
This is just what it would take to boot the board. They have identical on-board video chips which are great for KVM-over-IP but you may want a different graphics card, and then there's RAID, an optical drive, etc.
AMD- ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
(There's something fishy going on with Tyan's boards. I read some pretty bad reviews on newegg a month ago but now they have all disappeared) - Opteron 6174 2.2GHz 115W 12-Core 2 * $1299
(Personally I would have gotten the Opteron 6128 2.0GHz 115W 8-Core: $280.99) - Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
(Personally I would get a different case and an Anteq TPQ-1200 1200W PSU for $249.99) - Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the Intel comparison)
Skip the DVD and hard drive(s) since that should not affect the comparison.
Total price: $3,439.96
Intel- ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 motherboard $249.99
(Put a fan over the intel 5500 northbridge. It doesn't come with one. It needs it. Also note you can only use up to triple-channel DDR3. The AMD setup above goes to quad-channel DDR3.)
(Note the quad 1207(F) motherboards wouldn't be an apples-to-apples comparison. A quad-6-core system will lose to a dual-12-core system anytime.) - Westmere 3.33GHz 6-core 130W 2 * $1723.15
- Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
- Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the AMD comparison)
Total price: $4,098.26
Conclusion: AMD's Magny-cours option is awesome at the high end. Best of all is its price. Anandtech sums it up: "Here the choice is less clear. At this point, we believe both server CPUs consume about the same power, so that does not help either to make up our minds. It will depend on how the OEMs price their servers."
Newegg prices put things way over on the AMD side of things. What am I missing? - ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x fasterHmm, just for fun I priced out the highest end systems I could find on newegg:
This is just what it would take to boot the board. They have identical on-board video chips which are great for KVM-over-IP but you may want a different graphics card, and then there's RAID, an optical drive, etc.
AMD- ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
(There's something fishy going on with Tyan's boards. I read some pretty bad reviews on newegg a month ago but now they have all disappeared) - Opteron 6174 2.2GHz 115W 12-Core 2 * $1299
(Personally I would have gotten the Opteron 6128 2.0GHz 115W 8-Core: $280.99) - Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
(Personally I would get a different case and an Anteq TPQ-1200 1200W PSU for $249.99) - Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the Intel comparison)
Skip the DVD and hard drive(s) since that should not affect the comparison.
Total price: $3,439.96
Intel- ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 motherboard $249.99
(Put a fan over the intel 5500 northbridge. It doesn't come with one. It needs it. Also note you can only use up to triple-channel DDR3. The AMD setup above goes to quad-channel DDR3.)
(Note the quad 1207(F) motherboards wouldn't be an apples-to-apples comparison. A quad-6-core system will lose to a dual-12-core system anytime.) - Westmere 3.33GHz 6-core 130W 2 * $1723.15
- Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
- Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the AMD comparison)
Total price: $4,098.26
Conclusion: AMD's Magny-cours option is awesome at the high end. Best of all is its price. Anandtech sums it up: "Here the choice is less clear. At this point, we believe both server CPUs consume about the same power, so that does not help either to make up our minds. It will depend on how the OEMs price their servers."
Newegg prices put things way over on the AMD side of things. What am I missing? - ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x fasterHmm, just for fun I priced out the highest end systems I could find on newegg:
This is just what it would take to boot the board. They have identical on-board video chips which are great for KVM-over-IP but you may want a different graphics card, and then there's RAID, an optical drive, etc.
AMD- ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
(There's something fishy going on with Tyan's boards. I read some pretty bad reviews on newegg a month ago but now they have all disappeared) - Opteron 6174 2.2GHz 115W 12-Core 2 * $1299
(Personally I would have gotten the Opteron 6128 2.0GHz 115W 8-Core: $280.99) - Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
(Personally I would get a different case and an Anteq TPQ-1200 1200W PSU for $249.99) - Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the Intel comparison)
Skip the DVD and hard drive(s) since that should not affect the comparison.
Total price: $3,439.96
Intel- ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 motherboard $249.99
(Put a fan over the intel 5500 northbridge. It doesn't come with one. It needs it. Also note you can only use up to triple-channel DDR3. The AMD setup above goes to quad-channel DDR3.)
(Note the quad 1207(F) motherboards wouldn't be an apples-to-apples comparison. A quad-6-core system will lose to a dual-12-core system anytime.) - Westmere 3.33GHz 6-core 130W 2 * $1723.15
- Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
- Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the AMD comparison)
Total price: $4,098.26
Conclusion: AMD's Magny-cours option is awesome at the high end. Best of all is its price. Anandtech sums it up: "Here the choice is less clear. At this point, we believe both server CPUs consume about the same power, so that does not help either to make up our minds. It will depend on how the OEMs price their servers."
Newegg prices put things way over on the AMD side of things. What am I missing? - ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
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Re:? Do you really think Intels are 4x fasterHmm, just for fun I priced out the highest end systems I could find on newegg:
This is just what it would take to boot the board. They have identical on-board video chips which are great for KVM-over-IP but you may want a different graphics card, and then there's RAID, an optical drive, etc.
AMD- ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
(There's something fishy going on with Tyan's boards. I read some pretty bad reviews on newegg a month ago but now they have all disappeared) - Opteron 6174 2.2GHz 115W 12-Core 2 * $1299
(Personally I would have gotten the Opteron 6128 2.0GHz 115W 8-Core: $280.99) - Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
(Personally I would get a different case and an Anteq TPQ-1200 1200W PSU for $249.99) - Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the Intel comparison)
Skip the DVD and hard drive(s) since that should not affect the comparison.
Total price: $3,439.96
Intel- ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 motherboard $249.99
(Put a fan over the intel 5500 northbridge. It doesn't come with one. It needs it. Also note you can only use up to triple-channel DDR3. The AMD setup above goes to quad-channel DDR3.)
(Note the quad 1207(F) motherboards wouldn't be an apples-to-apples comparison. A quad-6-core system will lose to a dual-12-core system anytime.) - Westmere 3.33GHz 6-core 130W 2 * $1723.15
- Athena Power CA-SWH02B65 case+PSU $169.99
- Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 ECC RDIMM 2 * $115.99
(Chosen to be an exact match with the AMD comparison)
Total price: $4,098.26
Conclusion: AMD's Magny-cours option is awesome at the high end. Best of all is its price. Anandtech sums it up: "Here the choice is less clear. At this point, we believe both server CPUs consume about the same power, so that does not help either to make up our minds. It will depend on how the OEMs price their servers."
Newegg prices put things way over on the AMD side of things. What am I missing? - ASUS KGPE-D16 dual socket G34 motherboard $439.99
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Re:bullcrap
This is the approach we took when buying a new printer. We looked into getting invitations for our wedding done professionally, and after seeing how much it cost, we just picked up some decent looking invitations from Michael's and went out to buy a new printer (it ended up costing about 1/4th what it would have cost to get them done professionally...and we got a printer out of it!)
We went with a Brother HL-2170W. $90 for a wireless laser printer, and it works AMAZINGLY well. Toner is super cheap (the extended carts can be found for $40, and last for ~2,200 pages under real world applications), the wireless was super simple to set up, it's quiet and fast...a great investment.
We didn't care about bells and whistles, we didn't care about color, or a copier, or "PC-free printing"...we just wanted a wireless laser printer that did nothing but print. This thing is easily the best printer I've ever owned.
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Re:News?
but is it $658 better?
Yes. That's why people are willing to pay money for it.
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Re:News?
I'm amazed that various OSS projects are held to the same standards as their proprietary counterparts despite the huge disparity in cost. Photoshop may be better than GIMP but is is $658 better?
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Re:Sweet. Maybe we can get PS2 emulation next...
Sony, in their infinite wisdom, didn't create PS3's that can read PS2 game discs.
My PS3 reads and plays PS2 games quite well, actually: 60 GB PS3
The original 20 GB units would play PS2 games also.
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Pigeon Bandwidth 4.2Gbit/s or OC-96
For a 50 mile range a carrier pigeons bandwidth would be 1.9TB per hour. Or 527MB/s or 4.2Gbit/s which is about the same speed as a dedicated OC-96 connection or a Infiniband DDR 1X.
average pigeon flying speed * maximum data it can carry given the current memory technology
Memory:
64GB SD card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139183"Their average flying speed over moderate distances is around 80 km/h (50 mph),[citation needed] but speeds of up to 125 km/h (75 mph) have been observed"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homing_pigeon"Well, the link below says 5-10% of the pigeon's weight, or 30-50 grams (1-1.7oz)."
http://interbug.com/pigeon/technology/homing_pigeon_with_gps.pdfWeight of SD Card
Weight (Approximate): 0.07 oz
make it 0.05oz taking off the plastic enclosure and metal contacts.1.5oz / 0.05oz = 30 SD memory chips
30 chips * 64GB = The pigeon can carry 1.9TB theoretically.
Previously:
In September 2009, a South African IT company, based in Durban, pitted an 11-month-old bird armed with a data packed 4GB memory stick against the ADSL service from the country's biggest internet service provider, Telkom. The pigeon named Winston took an hour and eight minutes to carry the data 80 km (50 miles). Including downloading, it took two hours, six minutes, and 57 seconds for the data to arrive, the same amount of time it took to transfer 4% of the data over the ADSL.
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Re:How about most mice/trackballs.
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still technically applicable
still technically applicable, just not computationally convenient.
Just one trillion millihertz to the gigahertz
I can respond in kind to your pedanticness about SI prefix symbols. :)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116283&cm_re=Pentium-_-19-116-283-_-Product
In base 10, only 3.6 billionths of a cent per millihertz.
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Re:I have first-ed this article...
Well why didn't you say so? Let the old Hairyfeet point you in the right direction. Now if you want a bad ass laptop I'd go with this one as I've had good luck with Acer and this one is top notch on CPU and GPU. Or if you are looking for something light and cheap I'd go with this one which I've sold quite a few of and my customers love it. I liked it so much I got one for my dad, it has a great picture and the Radeon 3200 is great for video.
But whether you go desktop or laptop the money you save by going AMD will allow you to have better hardware all around. That said I've always been a desktop man at heart because I like being able to pop the hood and hot rod it. Have you thought about a KVM switch? I currently have 2 desktops running on a 4 port KVM that cost a whole $20 and when I had my laptop (gave it away to my oldest when he started college) I just plugged it in and used it with the desktop monitor. Having a nice big screen to work just makes everything that much nicer IMHO. But either way you'll save serious cash over the i series which you can then use for nicer gear. Have fun!
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Re:MythTV ?
I'd personally try Windows 7 HP or Pro with Windows Media Center. Setup couldn't have been easier, just answer a couple of questions and it set up my cable perfectly, scheduling a series or genre DVR is a breeze, and you can build a nice shuttle AMD based HTPC with a nice built in Radeon for video acceleration quite affordably.
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Re:Open your wallets
They still have a few bugs on their pages, as you found out, but I've found just searching by genre or price works best. If you don't care for the humor Blood is an excellent BUILD engine game with awesome levels and LOTS of secrets. It has a little humor in it but it is more the Clint Eastwood "man with no name" kind of humor. Funny you using a Matrox, I sold one of those 16Mb cards not too long ago to a guy whose video chip burnt in his win2K office box. It worked so well he just bought the card rather than have me order another one.
If your machine is a decent P4 vintage (something 2GHz or better) and you want to keep it for awhile and still have great graphics I have been selling my AGP customers this card and have been getting nothing but good reviews. The nice thing is even if you aren't a big gamer the 3xxx series cards can really give your machine a kick in the pants by adding hardware acceleration to just about every video format out there. I just give them Media Player Classic Home Cinema and just about every format of video is accelerated. of course the fact that it makes games purty is just a nice bonus
;-)But I'm glad you liked the site and passed on the info. I'm a firm believer in putting your money where your mouth is and voting with your dollars, so I've been buying from GOG pretty much exclusively since someone here at
/. turned me onto it a year ago. They seem to get more great games in weekly, their sales kick ass, and their service and support is top notch. If you have friends or family that still enjoy good games even if they don't have the cutting edge bling GOG is the place to be. Now if you'll excuse me I keep getting my ass handed to me by an Archmage in King's Bounty and I smell a rematch. Peace. -
Re:Mac Mini + Plex
Sorry Don, my bad. working the shop all day you get used to using shortcuts and forget not everybody is in on the lingo. Here you go. If you don't mind some advice, if all you need is DVD quality or are setting something up for a kid's room the $50 player with a $30 USB HDD is all you'll need, just load it with their favorite movies and shows and they're good to go.
if you want to do the whole streaming bit this is what you'll want, as it is fully 1080p, has network by Ethernet or Wifi, and is an all around good choice. I hope that helps you out Don, enjoy!
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Re:Mac Mini + Plex
Sorry Don, my bad. working the shop all day you get used to using shortcuts and forget not everybody is in on the lingo. Here you go. If you don't mind some advice, if all you need is DVD quality or are setting something up for a kid's room the $50 player with a $30 USB HDD is all you'll need, just load it with their favorite movies and shows and they're good to go.
if you want to do the whole streaming bit this is what you'll want, as it is fully 1080p, has network by Ethernet or Wifi, and is an all around good choice. I hope that helps you out Don, enjoy!
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Re:WD HD Live
Same with the Seagate FreeAgent Theater+(TM) HD Media Player STCEA201-RK. I picked one up last week from Newegg for $50 shipped. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148499
They are OOS now but other places have them for about $80.
It will stream over the network, play from any old USB HD plugged into it, or has a custom slot for a Seagate Go drive. I have mine plugged into a bridged wireless router but it also supports several $15 and under wireless USB cards. I have it connected to several Samba shares and it works fine. The interface is a little cludgy and sometimes is slow to respond but I have not noticed any issues while it is actually playing content. I have also used he Netflix streaming and it played fine, quality was comparable to my Xbox with Netflix.
It is not perfect but damn, for under $100, it is small, silent, uses very little power, and will play 90% of audio and video formats. I've messed a little with some of the other features it has like Youtube videos, Picasa, and Flickr long enough to test them but not long enough to critique them. I never opened the included software that comes with it, I think it includes some type of sync software if you are using it with a USB HD.
The published specs of what it can play:
Streams Netflix
Easily enjoy your photos, movies and music on your TV.
HDMI connectivity and 1080p HD video playback.
Dolby Digital and DTS audio support
Ethernet connection for accessing shared content on your network.
Unique docking system eliminates fumbling with cables and connections.
Front-mounted USB port for digital cameras and additional storage devices.
Includes sync software for PC and Mac computers.
Intuitive user interface with DVD-style navigation.
Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7, and Mac OS X compatible.Supported Video Formats
Formats: MPEG-1, MPEG-2 (VOB/ISO), MPEG-4 (DivX /Xvid), DivX HD, Xvid HD, AVI, MOV, MKV, RMVB, AVC HD, H.264, WMV9, VC-1, M2TS, TS/TP/M2T
Subtitles: SAMI(smi), SRT and SUB
Video resolutions: NTSC 480i/480p, PAL 576i/576p, 720p, 1080i, 1080pSupported Audio Formats
AAC, MP3, Dolby Digital, DTS, ASF, FLAC, WMA, LPCM, ADPCM, WAV, OGG
Playlist: M3U, PLSSupported Photo Formats
JPEG files up to 20 megapixels, BMP, GIF, PNG, TIFFOutput
Video: Composite, Component, HDMI 1.3
Audio: Stereo, Optical S/PDIF, HDMI 1.3
Interface: 1x USB 2.0 at front, 1x USB 2.0 at back
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Re:XBMC + Acer Revo
Came here to post this same link. I just went with the same setup and I love it. The Revo is nice and quiet, and small enough to mount behind a wall-mounted LCD.
Any suggestions for wireless keyboard/trackpad combos? I plan to use the XBMC remote app for Android as the basic playback remote, but I'd like some kind of Bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo for more full-featured control when I need it. This looks kind of swanky, but might fall into that unusable middle-range between small remote size and large keyboard functionality. Maybe something like this? -
Re:XBMC + Acer Revo
Came here to post this same link. I just went with the same setup and I love it. The Revo is nice and quiet, and small enough to mount behind a wall-mounted LCD.
Any suggestions for wireless keyboard/trackpad combos? I plan to use the XBMC remote app for Android as the basic playback remote, but I'd like some kind of Bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo for more full-featured control when I need it. This looks kind of swanky, but might fall into that unusable middle-range between small remote size and large keyboard functionality. Maybe something like this? -
Re:Not on Mac? Really?
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Re:Does nVidia support HD and HD audio over HDMI?
Because to all those currently praying for some reason for the demise of ATI, they do. I can hook up my HD 5770 to my receiver and get sound and video in one. As of a few months ago no nVidia cards offered this.
My nVidia GT240 offers this feature. Note that this is the mid-range card from nVidia's previous generation, so I'm going to say you're wrong.
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Re:hard disk speed
First thing I found on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148348
The speed that a drive needs to be to saturate SATA II is 300MB/sec (2 bits of overhead per byte, if I'm not mistaken).
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Re:They'll just use them to play Elite all day
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Re:Unions being Unions
Glad to hear that. Then I'm sure that you would agree that unions have the same flaw that corporations and governments have: They're run by people.
While some declare that pure democracy is anarchy, my observation is that "interpreted" democracy - i.e., a union, a "republic", a "representative democracy", or a "CEO acting on behalf of the shareholders" keeps leading us all down the identical road with the exact same destination: Corruption and the abuse of power.
The issue seems to be that the people who run for positions of power within whatever entity lie through their teeth to gain those positions, and then - having achieved those positions - seek to enrich and empower only themselves and, perhaps, another select few.
Be nice to fit everybody who is in the electorate (the union, the Congressional district, a shareholder, whatever) that an elected individual is nominally responsible to with something like a neural impulse actuator and then when the feedback from those devices indicated that their "duly elected" representative or corporate board member or union leader was doing something that the majority of that electorate did not approve of, feed 10 KV (at 2 milliamps...or greater) into their representative.
As it stands, the immoral and unethical behavior of one individual is used to paint that entire entity or electorate; watching that individual shriek with pain occasionally might be revealing to those who have preconceptions about, say, unions or Congress.
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Re:Make them cheaper, not smaller
Does anyone actually make decent expresscard SSDs?
As it's been quite a while since I looked, your post inspired me to see if the landscape had improved at all.
It seems this one is ok, once you manage to find one that actually works.
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Re:Advancing the Past
Because solid state's main hold back has always been capacity.
SSDs have plenty of capacity. The problem is price per unit capacity. You can get 1 TB SSDs . . . they just cost over $3000. (But one of them claims 1.4 GB/s read/write speeds. Nice.)
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Re:Advancing the Past
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Re:Beh
The 40 GB SSD is $100, and the 80 GB is $200: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006692%2050001157&IsNodeId=1&name=Intel
Combine that with another 500 GB of spinning drive for $50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603%20600003274&IsNodeId=1&name=400GB%20-%20800GB
You can fit all of your games this year plus the OS on the 80 GB, and it's only another $50 to store everything that doesn't need to be fast. What I'm saying is that if you can afford the $200 SSD and $50 per game, you can probably part with another $50 for a "slow" hard drive.
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Re:Beh
The 40 GB SSD is $100, and the 80 GB is $200: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006692%2050001157&IsNodeId=1&name=Intel
Combine that with another 500 GB of spinning drive for $50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603%20600003274&IsNodeId=1&name=400GB%20-%20800GB
You can fit all of your games this year plus the OS on the 80 GB, and it's only another $50 to store everything that doesn't need to be fast. What I'm saying is that if you can afford the $200 SSD and $50 per game, you can probably part with another $50 for a "slow" hard drive.
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Troll feeding time!
That's right, because dick [sic] size is the only metric there is! Let's ignore seek time, streaming read/write performance, MTBF [wikipedia.org], power efficiency, shock resistance or any other number of characteristics that might be weighted in different levels of importance between laptop users, desktop users and server architects.
Real people, and not just people of the "my computer is faster than your's, so NYAH!" mentality, also look at cost versus value. It is nice that I can shave off a couple ms of seek/read/write time, and it is nice that it eats less power, but these benefits cost several times more. If the benefits don't outweigh the cost difference, then there is no point.
A quick scan of Newegg shows that a SDD costs ~$2.21/GB, where a comparable traditional HDD costs only ~0.33, thats quite a difference, I'm not sure if 15 minutes of battery life, and perhaps (very generously) a second a day in seek/read/write time is worth that much. Granted this is a quick comparison between a 2.5" 120GB SSD, and a 2.5" 120GB HDD. Both being at, or towards, the bottom of their price point. Granted this gap decreases with lower capacities (but remains very considerable), I picked 120 since that is more usable than a 50GB drive with todays amount of bloat.
Not saying that SSDs are pointless, just that their real world applications are rather limited right now, and most of them find use only with the same crowd that would cough up $600 for a graphics card that does 10% more than a $150 one. Some people find incremental improvement worth exponential price increases, these people are a minority. Yes, SSDs are also useful for netbooks, laptops with very limited use, and other people need fast access to limited amounts of data. They are not set to replace HDDs in desktops quite yet.
I recently bought a 1TB drive for a bit under $100, and a SSD thats around a sixth as big costs three times as much. Not nearly competitive yet. Of this drive, around 111Gb are used already, not counting another ~100GB on my data drive. To cover all of this with an SSD would cost significantly more than my full computer (which isn't a slouch hardware wise). I'm sure I could find better things to do with the money. Life build another computer completely.
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Troll feeding time!
That's right, because dick [sic] size is the only metric there is! Let's ignore seek time, streaming read/write performance, MTBF [wikipedia.org], power efficiency, shock resistance or any other number of characteristics that might be weighted in different levels of importance between laptop users, desktop users and server architects.
Real people, and not just people of the "my computer is faster than your's, so NYAH!" mentality, also look at cost versus value. It is nice that I can shave off a couple ms of seek/read/write time, and it is nice that it eats less power, but these benefits cost several times more. If the benefits don't outweigh the cost difference, then there is no point.
A quick scan of Newegg shows that a SDD costs ~$2.21/GB, where a comparable traditional HDD costs only ~0.33, thats quite a difference, I'm not sure if 15 minutes of battery life, and perhaps (very generously) a second a day in seek/read/write time is worth that much. Granted this is a quick comparison between a 2.5" 120GB SSD, and a 2.5" 120GB HDD. Both being at, or towards, the bottom of their price point. Granted this gap decreases with lower capacities (but remains very considerable), I picked 120 since that is more usable than a 50GB drive with todays amount of bloat.
Not saying that SSDs are pointless, just that their real world applications are rather limited right now, and most of them find use only with the same crowd that would cough up $600 for a graphics card that does 10% more than a $150 one. Some people find incremental improvement worth exponential price increases, these people are a minority. Yes, SSDs are also useful for netbooks, laptops with very limited use, and other people need fast access to limited amounts of data. They are not set to replace HDDs in desktops quite yet.
I recently bought a 1TB drive for a bit under $100, and a SSD thats around a sixth as big costs three times as much. Not nearly competitive yet. Of this drive, around 111Gb are used already, not counting another ~100GB on my data drive. To cover all of this with an SSD would cost significantly more than my full computer (which isn't a slouch hardware wise). I'm sure I could find better things to do with the money. Life build another computer completely.
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Re:Network meltdown due to hub cross-connects
Why would you want a hub in the first place? The only hub on newegg was some $650 24-port 10/100 deal. But unless you were trying to keep some crazy legacy network alive, why not spring for a modern 10/100/1000 switch?
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Re:I miss the pressure AMD used to put on Intel
This review:
http://it-review.net/article/hardware/cpu/Intel_Core_i7_980X,_Core_i5_650_and_Core_i3_530_review&3These processors:
Core i7-980X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223Core i5-650
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115220Core i3-530
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222Notice the performance of the 980X over the other two. There's no more than a 3x performance increase in media encoding. Compare the price tag differences, ranging from a six-fold increase over the i5 and an eight-fold increase over the i3.
The kind of premium Intel charges for the "Extreme Edition" brand is ridiculous. Based on those specs alone and knowing the price of the two lower models, I wouldn't expect to be charged anything more than $600 for the i7.
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Re:I miss the pressure AMD used to put on Intel
This review:
http://it-review.net/article/hardware/cpu/Intel_Core_i7_980X,_Core_i5_650_and_Core_i3_530_review&3These processors:
Core i7-980X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223Core i5-650
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115220Core i3-530
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222Notice the performance of the 980X over the other two. There's no more than a 3x performance increase in media encoding. Compare the price tag differences, ranging from a six-fold increase over the i5 and an eight-fold increase over the i3.
The kind of premium Intel charges for the "Extreme Edition" brand is ridiculous. Based on those specs alone and knowing the price of the two lower models, I wouldn't expect to be charged anything more than $600 for the i7.
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Re:I miss the pressure AMD used to put on Intel
This review:
http://it-review.net/article/hardware/cpu/Intel_Core_i7_980X,_Core_i5_650_and_Core_i3_530_review&3These processors:
Core i7-980X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223Core i5-650
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115220Core i3-530
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222Notice the performance of the 980X over the other two. There's no more than a 3x performance increase in media encoding. Compare the price tag differences, ranging from a six-fold increase over the i5 and an eight-fold increase over the i3.
The kind of premium Intel charges for the "Extreme Edition" brand is ridiculous. Based on those specs alone and knowing the price of the two lower models, I wouldn't expect to be charged anything more than $600 for the i7.
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Re:LINUX rounds numbers fine
Um, bullshit.
I omitted the MacBook Air from this comparison because, if we want to compare apples to apples (no pun intended), it should be a netbook we compare against. But there are no netbooks with a 2.36Ghz CPU and 3GB RAM.
I also did not know the exact configurations (you conveniently left out HDD size for instance, and graphics, and screen size, and screen resolution, and weight, and... I'll stop there), so I looked at just the base configurations. First, the $1500 MacBook Pro.
At 2.66 Ghz and 4GB RAM, we should be looking for a 3.16Ghz Toshiba with 5GB RAM. On NewEgg, the fastest Toshiba laptop is only 2.66Ghz, and they all have 4GB RAM, but the cheapest one is only $1300. Please note that $1300 != $450.
Next up is the $1000 MacBook. 2.4Ghz and 2GB RAM means a 2.9Ghz Toshiba with 3GB RAM. Again, the fastest Toshiba is only 2.66Ghz. And they all had 4GB RAM so I couldn't see what a version with only 3GB would cost. But the upgrade to 4GB on the MacBook was only $100. So $200 to step up 0.26Ghz.
So is it more expensive? It can be, but not nearly as much as your bullshit claims it is.
Lastly, the Toshiba I compared against. Y'see, unlike you, I'm not afraid to post the machine I compared against. Since, y'know, it wasn't fictitious.
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Re:Wake Up
Sounds like you missed the whole discussion then because it was never about "smartphones" (a very shifty definition in itself) exclusively.
In any case, to cater to your artful dodge topic adjustment, here is a $40 smartphone. There are a lot of other phones that qualify as being "smartphones" for under $100 as well, but maybe you can't afford those.
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Re:More hard drives.
Keep them as cool as Dells? That's not hard. Dell's drive bays are notoriously bad. Some of the ones from 4 and 5 years ago are much more poorly designed than the Supermicro cage.
I'm not quite sure I understand your argument. Both Dell's servers and the Supermicro cage are quite capable of keeping drives cool enough to fit into the low failure temperature bracket and you've already noted that keeping them too cool can produce negative affects.
Once you've hit "cool enough", any more is mostly pointless and at worst damaging.
The thermaltake bay converters with the 120cm fan, on the other hand, do a great job keeping the drives nice and cool.
Assuming you're talking about this, they'd damn well want to with only 3/5ths the density. Hell, it'd be a challenge to design the thing badly enough _not_ to keep the drives "nice and cool".
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Re:Wake Up
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Drive Bay Storage DrawersScythe KC01 - PBK - 5 "Kama Cabinet" a drawer in a 5.25" bay
Two of these drawers can hold some extra dvd's, flash drives, and whatnot. They are also rather stealthy.