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Unfortunately, I can not find a shred of evidence to support any of your claims. I honestly debated even responding, for one, because to do so effectively would require lots of references and I am feeling somewhat lazy, and two because I don't quite seem the point because IMHO the only way you could make the statements you have quite an emotional investment in the issue and I doubt any rational discussion would change this.

I am beginning to understand your confusion on the issue. Having followed and read the sole reference in your post, I myself am confused... is this really the source of your info or were you joking. For those to lazy to follow the link, here are some exerpts from this in-depth "analysis":

As AOL allows me to send out only 50 names or so at a time, I have only responded to those of you who question my existence or have asked for a clean, ungarbled copy of the "Layman's Guide" which I provide below.

further down the 'analysis' begins:

Q: I'm not a lawyer and I don't understand the recent Supreme Court decision in Bush v. Gore. Can you explain it to me?

A: Sure. I'm a lawyer. I read it. It says Bush wins, even if Gore got the most votes.

Q: But wait a second. The US Supreme Court has to give a reason, right?

A: Right.

To get you up to speed on what actually happened in 2000. I suggest the following, rather-unbiased law school FAQ. If you want to broaden your view and actually listen to an opposing viewpoint, you could try this obviously biased site. The main page of the site looks like they obviously have an agenda, but at least some the arguements are tracable, as opposed to your reference.

Of course, this is all moot as Bush would have won the election no matter how many times your recounted, even under the most Gore-favorable criteria. link (please read all of it) and link. (Is CNN part of the 'vast right wing conspiracy now too?')

Having spent the last couple hours looking reading up on this, I really am too tired now to respong to each of your assertions. However, I did want to highlight a few:

...the US Supreme Court then unconstitutionally intervened...

Pretty odd statement considering that the Supreme Court has the final say on constitutionality. By definition, the Supreme Court can not do anything "unconstitutional".

...The Florida Supreme Court tried to enforce existing Florida election law...

The Florida Supreme Court extended the deadline for performing recounts beyond the law, as passed by the legislature.

The problem was neither the butterfly ballot nor the 170,000 or 3% of Democratic-leaning voters (largely African-Americans) disenfranchised. The problem is that somewhat less than 0.01% of the ballots (less than 600 votes) may have been determined under ever-so-slightly different standards by judges and county officials recording votes under strict public scrutiny, as Americans have done for more than 200 years. The single judge overseeing the entire process might miss a vote or two.

I don't know what the heck you are trying to say here. If you are referring to the mass intimidations, and other irregularities, those have pretty much all been debunked IIRC.

They imposed a deadline of December 12 for the recount, whereas under normal federal election law Florida would have had until January 6 to complete the recount

A Free Republic post, taken from News Max, the place that produces such wonders as this. Even if the figures are accurate, linking to such a hugely biased piece of "journalism" might not be good for making your case in future.

Maybe they would have if Darl had given lots of money to the Democratic party. (Or maybe not) It all reminds me a little of Nixon, though...

How do you figure?

Diebold is not a "small company" as you so succintly put it. Quoting their website, "With $3.9 billion in government funding in the pipeline for election reform, Diebold is set to conquer the nation's voting system overhaul." Ironically, this link is under the "rock the vote" PR section of their website.

Cathy Cox (Secretary of State, GA) is an open supporter of Diebold. Furthermore, she's been acused of fraudulent election proceedings in 2000!

She's probably the next Cathy Harris. Cathy Harris was the 2000 Florida Secretary of State. She's the person that STOPPED the recounts and declared "BUSH" the winner. She's also now a US Senator under Bush. Furthermore, she was a Bush Campaign Vice-President a few years prior.

C'mon people? How much writing on the wall does it take?!?

The fiber optic Tiger Song air defense network was installed in Iraq during the 1990s by China in violation of the U.N. ban on weapons sales to Baghdad. The Chinese network has been bombed several times, suffering only a slight degrade in service until Iraqi engineers could repair it.

Tiger Song is a more widely distributed network than the French Kari system and is similar to the Internet, allowing Iraqi mobile radars and missile units to link into the network from pre-positioned fiber optic sites. Both systems are linked together, with the French Kari network providing the overall command and control.

U.S. warriors hope to be able to penetrate the Kari and Tiger Song systems through computer links from the Internet or Iraqi phone system. The Tiger Song network is reportedly also cross-linked with an Iraqi oil pipeline communications network that employs microwave communications links. U.S. forces could tap into the Tiger Song system using the microwave links.

Another alternative is for U.S. Special Forces teams to penetrate Iraq and plant active electronic taps into the Iraqi systems. The Tiger Song network of fiber optic lines is much more difficult to attach hardware electronic taps to. However, U.S. cyber warriors may be able to use the same pre-positioned link points that Iraqi air defense units utilize.

Cyber War Against Iraq

These are the same people who would remove qualified scientists from an advisory panel because their findings do not support a particular ideology or business model.
Exactly. Some people define "respected scientists" as only those who believe in their ideology (like global warming). All scientists who doesn't agree are labeled "industry stooges".

Some people would like to Outsource our military and subvert our "interests" to a corrupt organization of dictators and mostly corrupt elected officials (the U.N.). They would like to suppress any connection they don't want to find and repeat the same lie repeatedly until they think people will believe them. They also suppressed discovery of proliferation activity for political gain (China-gate).

Which way do you thing the activist hackers who would alter evoting dquipment would go?

See if anyone ever corroborated her little idiocy over Bush and Gore's grades.

Well, that is easy for anyone who is interested to test. The articles here and here give a brief overview of their performance, references some source material, including an important Washington Post article. I don't think that your opinion will stand close inspection.

preventing and prosecuting cybercrimes is now the FBI's No. 3 priority, behind anti-terrorism efforts and counterintelligence operations.
well, considering that anti-terrorism is what we developed homeland security for, they'll have to wait in line if thats going to be one of their primary goals.

"counterintelligence: The branch of an intelligence service charged with keeping sensitive information from an enemy, deceiving that enemy, preventing subversion and sabotage, and collecting political and military information."
Hmm....sounds like a job for CIA, NSA, SS, and several military agencies. They'll have to step in the back of the line there too. Maybe they meant to say "anti-treason" efforts.

Oh, and then there's prosecuting cybercrimes, which is what LAWYERS do. But speak of the devil, doesn't the DoJ have a...why YES they do! The CCIP, computer crime and intellectial property division of the DoJ. And we all know the FBI and DoJ are always holding hands....wait, wasn't the newly stated Director of FBI one of the DoJ? Why YES he was!

But if the FBI wants to prioritize its resources towards the CCIP, CIA, and Homeland Security, how are we going to keep up with the original FBI chores? Good question. (-thank you) (-your welcome) Unfortunately, bank robberies, serial killings, extortion, rackateering, theft, gangsterism, fighting communist expansion, fugitives, assassination attempts, watergate, hoffa's missing corpse, and the X-files will have to be postponed since the agency needs more money. On one hand, the FBI could try to defend joe schmo and joe tax evader, or they could defend the RIAA and MPAA who have pounds and pounds of money.

Some people don't agree with this and believe Dir. Mueller will run the agency a-fry:
They expect you to tinker with the machinery until you get it whirring along again. They want you to be the total executive who moves in, takes over and puts the place in order. In short, they expect you to do what a new CEO would do when taking over a major business operation that has fallen into disrepair: fix what's broken, shake up the table of organization, get rid of the deadwood, and start making big profits for the stockholders. But the FBI isn't a business. It's the investigative arm of the Justice Department. Its principal job is to go out and dig up the facts to back up whatever litigation DOJ is working on. Its field is interstate crime."

Seriously, I'm not trying to troll, but you could argue one way or the other and come out right: the FBI is doing exactly what it has been doing since its conception. Unfortunately, I think the diversity in crime has expanded past their "business model", and they'll eventually have to decide to split the agency apart -similar to why we should have split MS apart years ago.

I would totally agree for you except for Diebold and their un-auditable machines. Guess what, now even if you do vote, your vote might just be invalidated or part of a massive miscount.

Oh well, maybe I should just vote absentee ballot? Oh, did we have problems with those, too??

We're fucked.

Presenting selective evidence is no better than being selective with the experts chosen. It is estimated by some scientists that specialize in astrophysics and geology that the Earth was 6-7 degrees F. warmer during the years 800-1300 AD than it is today. In contrast, the Earth has warmed only 1 degree F. over the last century. The scientists used multiple sources for their data; whereas, the original global warming presentation to congress was highly selective with its data about the earliest years.

Conclusion: before rushing to judgement on their data, make sure that it stands up to thorough scientific review and not just political correctness review.

For more information, read here and here.

Presenting selective evidence is no better than being selective with the experts chosen. It is estimated by some scientists that specialize in astrophysics and geology that the Earth was 6-7 degrees F. warmer during the years 800-1300 AD than it is today. In contrast, the Earth has warmed only 1 degree F. over the last century. The scientists used multiple sources for their data; whereas, the original global warming presentation to congress was highly selective with its data about the earliest years.

Conclusion: before rushing to judgement on their data, make sure that it stands up to thorough scientific review and not just political correctness review.

For more information, read here and here.

The expanded contents of the zip file is around the size of a single CD. This points to the contents being originally distributed from Microsoft on CD-rom.

Microsoft has made so much fuss about retaining control of the source code. In May 2002, under oath at the antitrust hearing Jim Allchin, group vice president for platforms at Microsoft, stated that, because the Windows operating systems contained inherent flaws, disclosing the Windows operating system source code could damage national security and even threaten the U.S. war effort.

It's going to be interesting if it is subsequently found that Microsoft itself has been distributing said source code over the internet in zip format.

By the way, In February 2003, Microsoft signed a pact with Chinese officials to reveal the Windows operating system source code. Bill Gates even hinted that China will be privy to all, not just part, of the source code its government wished to inspect.

Dispite gaining more favored trading status with the USA, there remains many embargos over technology transfers which could put the US at future risk.

Either Jim Allchin lied under oath, to prevent code revelation being any part of the settlement, OR the Microsoft corporation is behaving traitorously, by exposing national security issues to foreign governments.

The exposure of Microsoft source code put users at risk because of the inherent design and implimentation flaws built into the source code.

In comparison open source development practices enables open source distributions and users to evaluate the source code from the start. This forces developers to build in security from the early outset of each project or risk abandonment for more secure alternate solutions. End users can particpate in the development process.

On Labor Day weekend 1970, Kerry - then a rising star with Vietnam Veteran Against the War - teamed up with Fonda as the two headlined an ugly anti-war in rally in Valley Forge, Pa., railing against U.S. policy in Southeast Asia from the back of the same flatbed truck.

The photo shows "Hanoi Jane" listening raptly as speakers denounced American soldiers for committing "genocide" in Vietnam and accusing the U.S. of "international racism."

Three rows behind 'Hanoi Jane" sits a man who bears a striking resemblance to the Democratic presidential front-runner.

Hippy Kerry

Of course the UN never has problems with beaurocracy or political expediancy overriding logic or good sense or even ethics and morals when deciding what to do. They never have problems respondingly quickly and adequately to problems that pop up. The UN always acts in the best interest of humanity. And, as we all know, pigs can fly. So armed with these facts, your idea will be the greatest boon to space exploration our planet has ever seen. ...

Competition is what drove the space industry to great heights. Lack of competition is what's caused it to stagnate. In every case that there's been an attempt at cooperation, it's been lackluster or outright failed. And the idea that you'd want to put a bunch of people that decided it would be neat for Libya to head the Human Rights Commission to be in charge of space exploration makes me question how in touch with reality you are.

Stossel will basically say anything to back up the story he wants to tell. He's not just fact-light, like this Evans article/opinion piece; he's willing to just plain make 'em up. He'll tell you Parkinson's Disease kills more people than AIDS, 'cause he wants less AIDS funding. He'll make up graduation rates for school systems out of thin air. And so on.

I'll say this, at least the BBC editors, or maybe even Evans, see fit to throw in an occasional qualification. ABC has known Stossel was abusing the truth for years and years, and they keep shuffling his producers and fact checkers off the job without disciplining their on-air "personality." The guy just goes on writing his facts to support the conclusion he's already reached.

Actually, Bush won.

Isn't Johnny playing Lex Luthor in the Superman they're making? It feels like they have him making like 6 movies a year these days.

Incidentally, I can't find where it was I saw that, but searching for "johnny depp lex luthor" gets you just about the funniest article I've ever seen. Apparently Superman, Johnny Depp, Alec Baldwin, and Larry Flynt are all communists now.

Funny that this makes it on the news. Where was /. a few years back?

Slashdot was busy covering News for Nerds. You may have noticed that Slashdot isn't really a political news site (let alone an overly conservative political opinion source). If there wasn't the electronic aspect, this wouldn't have been on Slashdot. What's interesting from a "News for Nerds" standpoint is that this appears to be electronic trespass. This raises a number of interesting geeky questions. Were the Democratic files reasoanbly protected? There is a report that the Democrats were warned about the security hole several years ago and failed to fix it; given that, what portion of the blame falls on them? It's not entirely clear exactly how the files were obtained, but there are some possibilities (say, accidentally left on a public share) that might suggest that it wasn't actually theft, simply unexpected use of a publically available resource. As a counterpoint, if it was actual breaking into a system you have no reasonable expectation of being on, what will be the punishment, given the generally extreme response to computer trespass these days? Will they get lighter sentences because they're politicians?

I fail to see how the link you provide is particularlly News for Nerds. It's just plain old political commentary. I don't want to see plain old political commentary as articles on Slashdot at all, regardless of who is accused of whatever. The core topics should be technology and other other nerdy areas (including how law and politics interact with technology). Should individual posts get political, so be it, but expecting top level articles on purely political issues is silly.

Office of the Independent Counsel
Wednesday, Sept. 20, 2000

Previously, this Office had announced the conclusion of the "Arkansas phase" of its investigation into matters relating to the original mandate of jurisdiction assigned to this Office on August 5, 1994: "whether any individuals or entities have committed a violation of any federal criminal law, . . . relating in any way to James B. McDougal's, President William Jefferson Clinton's, or Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton's relationships with Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan Association, Whitewater Development Corporation, or Capital Management Services, Inc." The Office expects to announce its findings and conclusions with respect to this matter during the Fall 2000. During this phase of our investigation, the Office conducted three jury trials, convicting three defendants and secured fourteen convictions of twelve defendants by guilty pleas.

link

WASHINGTON -- In a deal sparing himself possible indictment, President Clinton acknowledged Friday for the first time that he had made false statements under oath about Monica Lewinsky. He also surrendered his law license as part of an arrangement with prosecutors who had pursued him for six years. ...

To end disbarment proceedings against him, Clinton agreed to let his law license be suspended for five years and to pay a $25,000 fine.

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Funny that this makes it on the news. Where was /. a few years back?

I'll be sure to mention it on my way to talk to the attack helicopter pilot who shot these missiles or maybe those, or the sharpshooter in this bullseye.

Point is, it's two sides killing the other side. Using suicide bombing is not more horrible than using high-tech weapons and vehicles. It's just harder to have those handy when you're not receiving BILLIONS every year to buy to toys to murder your adversaries.

I haven't checked the tally yet, but last time I checked, Israel had a confortable lead in kills. They'll probably make the playoffs.

Learn.

au contraire... maybe you're not familiar with the statistics...

in the US of 1998, 100,000 people were shot, a third of these (>30,000) died from their wounds. a youth of 15-24 is 3 times more likely to be shot than the population at large. a household gun is 22 times more likely to shoot someone other than a burglar.

here in australia, where only the police (more or less) may have guns, we have on average, 4 gun-related deaths per year. the US has around 13 times our population, but has more than 30,000 gun-related deaths per year. some US schools have metal detectors for christ's sake...

yes i believe the US has a huge problem with its love of guns. why every person needs a gun in a modern, largely risk-free society is beyond me. statistics prove that guns only lead to more people getting shot, without decreasing violent crime.

no, i don't think the movies are indicative of modern-day america (i've been there!), although the typical hollywood depiction of US foreign policy is pretty much spot on.... can't wait to see Iraq, the movie... although i'm sure they'll actually have WMDs and have proven links to al quaeda in the movie version.

cheers.

For you idiots who don't have a clue about the thugs running this circus called the usa,
Bush likes to help supply drugs
that's what he calls fighting the drug war.

What this really means is that NASA might see a 1% budget increase instead of a budget cut next year, and after that (after Bush is re-elected or someone else is elected), it'll go back down.

Where is your reference for that? If you want to blame for NASA budget cuts, you should be looking in Clinton's direction first.

Here's an article on NASA's budget history and Bush's committment to NASA that debunks that canard.

And this wasn't reported by the news because the very day that 'President' Bush signed this into law, Bush's Iraq administrator L. Paul Bremer announced the capture of Saddam Hussein. It seems awfully convenient. Especially in light of a certain date tree.

Wouldn't be surprised if Madeleine Albright turned out to be spot-on ...

You're ignoring the giant number of threats that Israeli officials have made towards Israel, the fact that Sharon has made veiled threats to nuke Iran, and publically said that he will push for the US to attack Iran after Iraq. He made those comments in November 2002, when the US was just starting to press Iraq in the UN.

Iranians are both afraid of and angry at Israel. Israel accuses them of having nukes, despite having plenty of their own. Iranians are outraged that they are getting hassled for nuclear inspections, while Israel has barred inspectors from the Dioma nuclear plant.

Those worried about big brother may want to check out this article concerning On Star. Basically, once the FBI found out they could snoop on people (OnStar apparently has a "listen" feature) they were all over it.

Not to mention the possibilities of random strangers listening in...

"... but environmentalism is a religion".
Thats the latest right-wing talking point.

nobody appreciates a clean environment more than i do
"I'm not racist, I have black friends!". These right-wing "conversationist" types are the same people who think clear-cutting old growth forests is the same thing as saving it. Its the same type of people who release big game animals in a fenced-in area, let kooks slaughter them for a fee and call it "hunting".

I'm sure you visit these sites daily, but here they are anyway. These loons should suit you fine:

Lucianne.com
News Max
WorldNet Daily

No, it wasn't about WMD, nor can you back up your claim that it ever was supposed to be all about WMD.

It's about this.

There are posters in this thread who are obviously disappointed that W and the boys captured Saddham. That's sad.

No, it wasn't about oil, nor can you back up your silly claim.

It's about this.

There are posters in this thread who are obviously disappointed that W and the boys captured Saddham. That's sad.

Read news much?

No, it wasn't about WMD, nor can you back up your claim that it ever was supposed to be all about WMD.

It's about this.

There are posters in this thread who are obviously disappointed that W and the boys captured Saddham. That's sad.

No, it wasn't about WMD, nor can you back up your claim that it ever was supposed to be all about WMD.

It's about this.

No, it wasn't ever just about WMD, nor can you back up your claim that it ever was supposed to be all about WMD.

It's about this.

There are posters in this thread who are obviously disappointed that W and the boys captured Saddham. That's sad.

Read news much?

I'm sorry to hear about #5 perhaps the fact that the training for the 9-11 attacks was in Iraq.
"We were training these people to attack installations important to the United States," he added chillingly. "The Gulf War never ended for Saddam Hussein. He is at war with the United States. We were repeatedly told this."
Or the Number of Ties cited by the washingtontimes
The most conclusive evidence comes in a highly detailed list of intelligence reports revealed last month in the Weekly Standard. Senior Iraqis were said to have traveled to Sudan in the mid-1990s to teach bin Laden's operatives how to make sophisticated truck bombs.
Terrorists subsequently used such bombs to hit targets in Saudi Arabia and at two U.S. embassies in Africa.

I hope you feel alittle better now. I do.

No, it wasn't about WMD, nor can you back up your claim that it anyone in W's administration said they know exactly where they are.

It's about this.

There are posters in this thread who are obviously disappointed that W and the boys captured Saddham. That's sad.

No, it wasn't about WMD, nor can you back up your claim that it ever was supposed to be all about WMD. Cite something for that false claim. Go on, try.

It's about this.

There are posters in this thread who are obviously disappointed that W and the boys captured Saddham. That's sad.

No, it wasn't about WMD, nor can you back up your claim that it ever was supposed to be all about WMD.

It's about this.

There are posters in this thread who are obviously disappointed that W and the boys captured Saddham. That's sad.

No, it wasn't about WMD, nor can you back up your claims that it ever was supposed to be all about WMD, or that it was illegal in any sense.

It's about this.

There are posters in this thread who are obviously disappointed that W and the boys captured Saddham. That's sad.

No, it wasn't about WMD, nor can you back up your claim that it ever was supposed to be all about WMD.

It's about this.

There are posters in this thread who are obviously disappointed that W and the boys captured Saddham. That's sad.

Saddam Hussein Walks Out On Stage Right When The Script Demanded It

> FLASHBACK: U.S. Rep. Ray LaHood predicted imminent Saddam capture 10 days ago: A member of The Pantagraph editorial board -- not really expecting an answer -- asked LaHood for more details, saying, Do you know something we don't?

Yes I do, replied LaHood.

> Saddam 'had time to commit suicide': Yet chose to spend the rest of his life in a torture camp: WHY? Why did the 'evil tyrant' cower in a cellar? Unless of course this was a stage-managed theatre production.

> FLASHBACK: Saddam Key in Early CIA Plot: Their gopher boy all along.

> FLASHBACK: Iraqi Commander Swears He Saw USAF Fly Saddam Out Of Baghdad

> FLASHBACK: Iran continues to raise secret deal claim: US flew Saddam out of Baghdad in April

> FLASHBACK: Look at how many arrests they have faked in the past dd

Keep in mind folks that this has absolutely nothing to do with September 11

I guess you've never heard of Salman Pak. No surprise, it's received almost no coverage in the mainstream media, presumably the basis for your philosophy.

Basically, terrorists from around the world came to train on a Boeing 707 fuselage on how to take over an airplane using only knives, and infiltrate the cabin to take control of the aircraft.

Remember, don't get too many beliefs based on somebody else's view of events. Ideas are fine, beliefs are dangerous.

Try a google search, there's lots of documentation out there.

When Saddam's sons were killed, the ones who seem to be the most disappointed were the Democrats.

Now, one of the worst dictators in history is captured alive, and all they can think about is that it is going to help Bush politically. It's ignored that this is a great day for Iraqis and the world. The hatred for Bush seems to blind them from seeing past anything else.

The current US administration acts as if they believe that the UN is an organization somewhere between the Three Stooges and the Devil Incarnate, and they usually ignore the UN's resolutions and dismiss its statements.

You think that's a little loopy? Check out Kim's official policy on triplets.

Yeah, he's nuckin' futs.

A quick Google search ("russian hackers microsoft") comes up with:

http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/10/27/1800 52.txt

There's tons of others. It made a big splash on the tech news circles- and then was apparently promptly forgotten for some unknown reason. Strictly speaking, MS has already had one of their critical breaches they talk about and they couldn't have instituted a scheme like they're talking about in the timeframe from when this was discovered to now (i.e. It pretty much had to be in place or largely so because of the scope and scale of the effort in question...).

But in reality the US supplied just as much, if not more, materials to Iraq than the Europeans did.

This is an indefensible claim.

For a nice little table, look here:
http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/Trnd_Ind_IRQ_Im ps_73-02.pdf

If numbers alone are no fun, read this article here:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/3/17 /123424.shtml

If you're too lazy to look at either one of them, let me summarize: A grand total of 1% of Iraq's arms imports came from the United States between 1973 and the first gulf war. Alternatively, if you're considering arguing that it was American equipment moved to Iraq through third parties, I suggest you glance at the countries listed above the US in the table and think again.

Please try to refrain from spouting such ignorance in the future. Those of us who try to stay informed thank you in advance.