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Sonuds like NetMail would fit the bill, on your choice of platform (NetWare, Windows 2000 or Linux). Scales to jillions of users. Requires eDirectory, but you can make that replicate with ActiveDirectory at no additional cost.

http://www.novell.com/products/netmail/

Have fun!

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I'm such a moron... I can't believe I entirely forgot about a great piece of Linux photo management software - F-Spot! Larry Ewing (of Tux fame) has been working on it for some time for Novell.

It looks to be an iPhoto work-alike for Linux.

Errr... okkkk... you must be a debian user (which uses exim) - as an example the following use sendmail as their default MTA:

Solaris
HP-UX
RedHat
Suse
Slackware

Netmail is the commercial product on which Hula is based. Things like eDir integration was ripped out of it before the source was thrust oppon the world.

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/11059.html links to two (somewhat dated) comparisions of GW and Netmail. 3.5 supports iCal, for example. http://www.novell.com/products/netmail/features.ht ml is the up to date list of what Netmail offers.

Netmail is the commercial product on which Hula is based. Things like eDir integration was ripped out of it before the source was thrust oppon the world.

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/11059.html links to two (somewhat dated) comparisions of GW and Netmail. 3.5 supports iCal, for example. http://www.novell.com/products/netmail/features.ht ml is the up to date list of what Netmail offers.

With Outlook. I can even get someone's telephone extension by right-clicking their name in an email. Outlook 2003 also tells me when they're free by checking their calendar.

These aren't really features in Outlook itself; this information is provided by the Exchange server that your organization is using. If you were to use Outlook outside an Exchange environment -- say, for checking your personal email from home -- you wouldn't have these features either.

Outlook's advantage in this case is simly that it supports using an Exchange server, while most other mail clients do not. For business use, Exchange is valuable, but for personal use it isn't really applicable, and there are other approaches, such as iCal files published on the web, that are better-suited to the less-centralized patterns that personal communication often follows.

btw, Evolution

should be more than enough to break Mircosoft's monopoly on the desktop which certainly will have a mighty impact on their ability to throw around with money. How?

Assume you have a 1000 developers who would one year fully concentrate on writing OpenSource applications according to the guidelines of wyoGuide (http://wyoguide.sf.net/). This would easily achieve up to a few hundreds cross-platform applications which are better or at least equally good as any Windows-only application. This base stock will force any software vendor who wants to stay in business to change their applications as well to comply to wyoGuide. Any application soon will be converted to cross-platform that's no question. Together with the already cross-platform Mozilla and OpenOffice this will definitely break MS monopoly on the desktop.

Then nobody would ask again for none-Linux applications anymore as here (http://www.osdl.org/dtl/DTL_Survey_Report_Nov2005 .pdf, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread .php?t=105955 or http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16798. html). The Ubuntu Bug #1 (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1) would finally be solve and the future as outlined here (http://wyoguide.sf.net/papers/Cross-platform.html ) would become true. All would win, well maybe not MS. So why doesn't IBM size up with Novell, Sun, Oracle, Google and others and throw in 10 million each? I think each of them are able to scrap together this 10 millions without much problems.

O. Wyss

I'm so impressed I just bought 500 NOVL shares ;-)

Dell might be saying that they want only one "major" distribution is horse hockey. In many, many conversations with IBM and HP, both those vendors want the opposite. They want two major distributions that have full enterprise support. Novell/SUSE as one (see IBM investment in Novell) and Red Hat as the other. Why do they want this? Because they don't want another Microsoft. They want to encourage standards, competition, and hardware upgrades. They can't do this if everyone runs the OS of the year from Microsoft. They can do this if everyone runs either SUSE Linux, Red Hat Linux, or Microsoft. Doing that creates lots of churn for them to take advantage of when trying to sell boxes equipped with the latest bells and whistles.

As far as Umbuntu... I don't know what to tell you. Most of my customers (anywhere from 100 users in a local township to 30,000 users at a Fortune 100 company) won't install software X on OS Y on hardware Z unless it's 100% supported and certified by both vendors. Problem with Umbuntu is, as far as I know, no major software or hardware companies are doing that. That alone will put the screws to Umbuntu. At Novell/SUSE, our biggest challenge (and our biggest success) has been getting third party companies like Intel, Dell, HP, IBM, Oracle, PeopleSoft, BEA, etc. to certify our OS as a platform that they will support. Check to see if the app you want is supported here http://developer.novell.com/yessearch/Search.jsp. Without a company behind Umbuntu, getting that kind of support is going to be impossible. And, as we all know, without supported software, no one will use your distro.

That's just my opinion... I certainly could be wrong.

Why doesn't Novell look at its own Cool-Solutions web site (http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16798 .html)? And why doesn't read Novell this LXer article (http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/54009/index. html)? Then they would recogize their chance to overtake Microsoft. Sure enough they will anytime in the future but only after they have done their homework.

O. Wyss

http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/preview.htm l

I believe these are what you are looking for...

My opinion is this. People who are ready to use Linux in this situation will continue to use free open source versions for quite awhile. http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/howtobuy.ht ml this pricing structure is unlikely to lure people away from the "proven performance" of MS. MS may have proven themselves to have several problems, but the bottom line is that MS-Office, and MS-Windows will work 95% of the time for most people. Linux requires tweaking, checking and special configuration. Once you get that done it is very stable but the ROI just isn't there yet. I would also like to hear some examples of Sysadmins and desktop support folks supporting the "typical user" on Linux; this seems to have enormous potential to be either divine or a nightmare. I think Linux can overcome MS but it's still a several years out.

Yup, check out the screenshots.

Right here.

You have the choice of running either Gnome or KDE, but Gnome will probably give your office workers all the warm fuzzies they are used to, and then some.

Fear not, for Novell has a world-class support infrastructure, and they fully support NLD9, SLES9, etc. Their knowledgebase and documentation are second to none.

Fear not, for Novell has a world-class support infrastructure, and they fully support NLD9, SLES9, etc. Their knowledgebase and documentation are second to none.

Get innovative, people -- invent something new and useful that Windows *doesn't* have, and then they will come.

Oh, how about all that nifty Xgl stuff they incorporated into SLED10?

Check this for a brief glimpse of the sweetness.

By the way, the Hula project is pretty much dead at this point.

66 messages in the Hula svn-commit mailing list in March (so far) (and ~150 in February) disagree with you.

http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfmod/maillist/arc hbrowse.php/hula-commits/2006-March/thread.html?id =1613&prjname=hula&mlname=commits

There has been ALOT of discussion on Calendars, and EXCHANGE. There was a comment made that EXCHANGE is the clear choice (and something only choice) for corporate informational exchange. Well, the company I worked for refused Exchange. What they are using is OpenXchange. http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community// Which is a open sourced version of novells Version http://www.novell.com/products/openexchange/screen shots.html/ For those who need a "Calendar" or "Email" Server without sticking your stuff into google.

The Open Sourced version is a little hectic to setup as it does not contain an administrative backend, so most of of the work is done through the command line... which is a small price to pay if you compare what is costs for MS Exchange. A Demo could be located here http://www.openexchange.com/EN/product/onlinedemo. html/ and here http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/onl ine.htm/
Plugins for OUTLOOK are available, seamless intergration.

There's official Novell screenshots (a nice sneak preview) online at http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/preview.htm l.

What he'd really like to see, is for the popular Linux distros to converge on a common core platform, according to the article.

I was taking a look at the Novell SUSE website the other day, and they seemed to answer to that idea that the Linux distros are incompatible. If you actually look at Linux and the greater Unix universe, everything is so modular that it is much easier to be compatible. It's sort of a myth that there is this incompatibility. Though Novell has a vested interest in promoting SUSE, their arguments against the "Get the Facts" campaign are very good. URL: Linux vs. Windows.

Man, I used to report bugs (and fixing) but no more!! To understand HOW lost they are look at : Annoying Bugs , the filesystem f_up is NOT a joke!! I was bitten BADLY!! Stupid of me to have an beta on my ordinary desktop, but I thought that since there was a late beta one could be safe... MAN .. the stuff they shoehorn into this late beta... god grief!! its like ... whats the name... eh "the so called belgian beer" (internal joke... hihi). Seriously.. I had "invested" my time in Suse.. and came to the conclusion that I better cut here... there is a saying (chinese??) "Don't throw good money after bad" s/money/time/ ... anyhow... sorry to spread FUD here but... PLS, take a good look at the open bugs before "investing" your time on this...

For me this is really sad, I don't "know" any other distro... I installed Mandriva on my wiped (thanks) box, so here we start from scratch again...

• NDS(eDirectory) released 1993
• Active Directory (released with Windows 2000 in 2001

More on topic, I admin a server farm of about 40 Netware 6.5 servers. Unless Novell stops supporting Netware, I really don't expect to migrate to Suse. What I would like to be able to do is migrate some of the Windows app servers to Suse (or Netware, whatever). Unfortunately, the apps are only supported on Windows, so that's what we have to run.

Novell isn't making things any easier on themselves. I want to install Novell's patch management and asset management products, and they BOTH RREQUIRE Windows servers!

Argh!

• NDS(eDirectory) released 1993
• Active Directory (released with Windows 2000 in 2001

More on topic, I admin a server farm of about 40 Netware 6.5 servers. Unless Novell stops supporting Netware, I really don't expect to migrate to Suse. What I would like to be able to do is migrate some of the Windows app servers to Suse (or Netware, whatever). Unfortunately, the apps are only supported on Windows, so that's what we have to run.

Novell isn't making things any easier on themselves. I want to install Novell's patch management and asset management products, and they BOTH RREQUIRE Windows servers!

Argh!

Identity Manager plug in for Eclipse is shiny...
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/dirxml/designe r/existinginstall_instructions.html

We did a comparison about a year and a half ago, and the MS licenses (for comparable Novell services) were cheaper - but not by much. It was something like a nine year return on investment (which your finance person would tell you is not worth it).

Of course, what you really want is what the directory gets you: if all you need is login name + password, then it doesn't make sense to pay a lot per seat. If you need more, then it may be worth the money. For example, adding ZENworks gives you the ability to remote-control the desktop, and even re-image the desktop, all from eDirectory. Spending money on Ghost?, Hassling with getting your users to provide you with their IP address (which on a locked down machine means more work on your end) for remote control? It all costs money.

Rather like Metcalf's law, the value of a directory increases with the extended services it enables.

FWIW, eDirectory 8.8 on Windows does now requires NTFS. ... you can install eDirectory only on an NTFS partition. I don't know when that change was made.

tackle the most important Linux problems. The OSDL Linux desktop survey (http://www.osdl.org/dtl/DTL_Survey_Report_Nov2005 .pdf) clearly lists Application support as the first top inhibitor to Linux adoption and Novell's own Cool-Solutions web site (http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16798 .html) shows that Quickbooks is the most wanted Linux application. So why doesn't Novell sponsor a real OpenSource alternative?

No I don't mean to sponsor GnuCash, I mean to build up a cross-platform solution which is able to compete against Quickbooks on all platform (including Windows). I guess it doesn't need more that just a few developers to create an alternative within halve a year and within a year Quickbooks will notice its business diminish. Well lets see then how all the others Windows-Only vendors will react when they see what happened to Quickbooks.

I'm quite sure these few developers have a much more important impact on the success of Linux that dropping another fifty developers into Suse. It will even be better for Suse if these few developers are taken temporarily away from it.

The way to success is quite easy when you follow a few rules:

- don't have unsolvable obstacles
- don't have killer arguments against you
- don't have inhibitors
- do have something valuable the others don't have
- look at our products with the eyes of your customers or users
- ...

O. Wyss

"Nooooo, I swear I was only updating. I sweeeaaaarrrrrgghhh!"

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16592. html

It strikes me curious why the authors choose Gimp and GnuCash as sample project to layout their theory. The ODSL survey (http://www.osdl.org/dtl/DTL_Survey_Report_Nov2005 .pdf) proves that even Linux users still wish for Photoshop instead of Gimp and it proves together with the Novell's Cool-Solutions web site (http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16798 .html) that users prefer other cash applications than GnuCash.

Does this prove that OpenSource development is wrong? Or is not done properly? I think not, the way how OpenSource development is done is fine but it shows some other problems. It shows that OpenSource development has a leader problem, a problem in which direction (towards which goal) the development should head.

So if OpenSource doesn't head into a common direction as e.g. outlined here (http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/54009/index. html) I don't see a possibility how it can eventually overtake ClosedSource development.

O. Wyss

http://www.novell.com/news/press/item.jsp?contenti d=1b969adfd1695010VgnVCM1000000100007f____

Whatever Distro...
Maybe you should track down counterparts in the Hoosier State

Novell puts out a monthly (free) magazine called Novell Connection. I just got the latest issue a few days ago and I do remember noticing a Dell / Linux Advertisement on the back cover.

• I belive SUSE 10.0 supports the Nvidia 6100. Check for yourself here.
• The Eval version of SUSE is free (as in beer) and includes a JRE pre-installed. No hoops.
• When building a system, it pays (both meanings) to find out requirements before purchasing. If you knew ahead of time that Linux was an option, you could research any distro's supported hardware list and by that equipment.

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They're probably getting pretty sick of being sued...
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Then perhaps they should have taken the matter up with Novell, who owns this IP. SCO doesn't even have the right to sell SVRX licenses on behalf of Novell without Novell's prior approval for each license, in writing.

http://www.novell.com/licensing/indemnity/pdf/6_24 _03_n-sco.pdf

Which would be quite odd, because Novell owns those copyrights, and the APA between Santa Cruz (SCO's predecessor) and Novell prohibited Santa Cruz from selling new SVRX licenses without Novell's prior approval, in writing.

http://www.novell.com/licensing/indemnity/pdf/6_24 _03_n-sco.pdf

It boggles the mind that complete BS from an anonymous source can be modded insightful and interesting. I guess there are still people that trust everything they read on the internet.

You are wrong of course, but you knew that before you posted.

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Home

Many of the Linux desktops are as usable if not more usable than M$ Windows. I have many non-computer literate users with Linux desktops happily operating.

Heck even my three year old can start the computer boot Linux, select the correct KDE menus and run Supertux, enter the game and start playing.

Are you really saying you are less able than a three year old to operate a computer running Linux?

http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/

rgds

You are wrong. In fact, Novell itself suggested these programs: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16917. html

The article title says "Novell Suggests Linux Program Replacements"

Unless Novell has been taking a page from Micro$oft, and has aquired Ziff Davis, this is entirely incorrect. If they have taken a page from M$, they really should give it back. That article sucked wind on so many levels it was of low standard even for Ziff Davis.

If I were a Novell executive, I would seriously be looking at firing off a gently worded cease and desist order to Slashdot for associating my company's name with that garbage.

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/16646.html

Linux substitutes for "most wanted" Windows-only software
Feb. 15, 2006

DesktopLinux.com has reported recently on Novell Inc.'s survey of the "most wanted" Windows/MacOS-only applications among Linux users. As a result of over 14,000 votes and comments that have been registered since the beginning of January, some useful suggestions about good Linux substitutes have come to the fore.

Adobe Photoshop, Autocad, and Macromedia Dreamweaver continue to run 1-2-3 in the balloting, according to the online survey currently in progress on Novell's CoolSolutions community website.

"All the feedback and participation has been great thus far. As the survey continues, I wanted to share some of the suggestions that people have made regarding the top-requested applications. They have been both impressive and helpful," CoolSolutions site editor Scott Morris said.

"The more people we can expose to the survey, the more the independent software vendors (ISVs) will listen," he added. "For right now, there appears to be an abundance of software available that we can use while we are waiting for our favorites to be ported to Linux. Take a look and see if you can't find something that fits your needs."

By a good margin, Adobe Photoshop is the one application that most people want ported to Linux, Morris said. Free and open-source software (FOSS) already available for Linux that have similar feature sets to Photoshop include:

        * Pixel Image Editor
        * The GIMP
        * Krita (Part of Koffice)
        * Photoshop also works with WINE

"So, if you're looking to get Photoshop ported to Linux, you might give these suggestions a try [in the meantime]," Morris said.

Many suggestions were listed as replacements for Autodesk AutoCAD, including:

        * VariCAD, which has a version specifically designed for SUSE Linux
        * LinuxCAD
        * arcad
        * Cycas
        * Synergy

"After checking these applications out a little, some of them look pretty slick. If you need a CAD app, check these out," Morris said.

Macromedia has a couple of applications on this Top 10 Most Requested list, Morris said. Two suggestions for what to use in place of a Linux version of Dreamweaver are:

        * Nvu
        * Windows Dreamweaver, via WINE

"There were a handful of great suggestions for iTunes (replacements)," Morris said. They include:

        * AmaroK
        * gtkpod
        * Syncpod
        * Yamipod

Fifth on the list is Macromedia Flash. "Surprisingly, there are actually a number of useful resources already working on Linux," Morris said. Those are:

        * SWF Tools
        * KToon
        * Blender3D (Available directly from YAST)
        * SoftImage|XSI

"There are quite a few people taking advantage of making their opinions known," Morris said. "Let's see how many people we can get to take this survey, so the ISVs will pay attention and start porting their products to Linux."

Novell's "most wanted" Windows/MacOS-only applications survey is located here.

I wonder if the GnuCash developers know that even Linux users wish for none-free cash application, see

and would like to know what they consider to do against.

O. Wyss

You can find videos and more info here:
http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/

Forget 3D desktops - the real beauty of Xgl is that allows the use of OpenGL to render parts of your desktop, which means your video card won't just be using 1% of its potential anymore. This is done by OSX and it means faster and sleeker graphical desktops.

    Also, combined with the new X.Org extensions (Compositing, Damager, Cairo) it means, of course, eyecandy galore :)

http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/

http://www.linuxedge.org/?q=node/55

Can't be bothered to check the article links hey? Check the Novell link.

http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/

Novells conclusion from the survay

Novells conclusion from the survay

Note that the survey asks what apps are required for "switching to Linux in their data center", not what's needed before your mom will let you install it on the family computer.

See Novells Complaint from page 44

I'm not sure how far this suit has progressed, but it would appear that at the time Microsoft made specific documentation available to ISVs on a case by case basis depending on how much of a threat the ISV represented to them.

According to the document Microsoft refused to include the specifications for using the windows Dialog Box Manager, a feature that is now fully documented on MSDN and seems to be regarded as ancient history by Windows developer Raymond Chen.

If such a major chunk of functionality was really initially reserved for MS Applications it would seem as though the Novell case couldn't fail to succeed. My guess is that they will end up settleing for some vast payout and the whole issue will disappear.