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Winamp... I don't understand why people think it is going to suddenly disappear. I haven't needed to update winamp in years, I only have a newer version because I sometimes lose the installer.

You can get whatever version you want here: http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/

I kept this URL since I had some problem (I can't remember) with v5.622+.

You reminded me of a great application: Nullsoft Beep. Using Excitement-Generation Technology(tm), it makes your computer sound like they do in the movies!

http://www.nullsoft.com/free/jnetlib/ From the guy who initially made Winamp, he also made a lib called JNetLib which is a piss easy to use cross-platform C++ socket library. It also has pre-made classes for things like HTTP/HTTPS, to help speed things up, or to simply give you an idea of how to use the library. It is licensed under the BSD license, so you are basically free to use it for whatever you would like, commercial or otherwise.

...ever since Nullsoft's WASTE was released and AOL (or whoever) pulled it and revoked the license. From http://www.nullsoft.com/free/waste/ :

If you downloaded or otherwise obtained a copy of the Software, you acquired no lawful rights to the Software and must destroy any and all copies of the Software, including by deleting it from your computer. Any license that you may believe you acquired with the Software is void, revoked and terminated.

It was released under a GPL license (IIRC). So they have effectively revoked the license. They haven't tried (actively) to stop redistribution - indeed, there's forks on Sourceforge. I think Asus or someone even made a derivative product from it?

That's easy, conficker would just have to install this: http://www.nullsoft.com/free/nbeep/

I would use nscopy... http://www.nullsoft.com/free/nscopy/ Never had an issue; it doesn't crash like the built in copy.

It happened with nullsoft Waste, a p2p thing that was released by the Nullsoft guys then later yoinked by parent company AOL when they found out about it.

I have vague recollections of parts of it being used in a commercial product (I think from some motherboard manufacturer?) which was similarly later pulled, though I'm not sure why.

It is interesting because it was software that was released under the GPL by a company, and then later revoked. I wonder if this has been tested in court at all?

Speaking of editors, I love Notepad2 on Windows. Lightweight, small memory footprint and extremely well written. Not to mention useful!

And of course, anyone who's had to edit over a slow and bad connection (on *nix) would love pico/nano.

Then, back to Windows, there is Irfanview on Windows, which is a fantastic piece of image viewing software. Quite useful.

Finally, I love Safesex by Nullsoft. Other favorites include Winamp (in its traditional UI without the bloatware) and Opera.

try this out: http://www.nullsoft.com/free/nbeep/

Like this?

I think our good friend Justin Frankel is responsible for this thing. Damn it gets annoying real quick. :)

Yeah, irrelevant to 99.5% of slashdot.

Nullsoft Beep perhaps?

http://www.nullsoft.com/free/nbeep/

Nullsoft Beep is an application that makes your computer sound like computers sound in the movies.

Here's some information guaranteed to piss off the Winamp employees:
Change the download URL from this:
http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp5 13_full_emusic-7plus.exe
to this:
http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp5 13_full.exe

Then there's no more Emusic bundle. This url is not listed anywhere on the site.

Here's some information guaranteed to piss off the Winamp employees:
Change the download URL from this:
http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp5 13_full_emusic-7plus.exe
to this:
http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp5 13_full.exe

Then there's no more Emusic bundle. This url is not listed anywhere on the site.

(Note: Not all of these programs are open-source, but they are all free-as-in-beer)

Media Player Classic - while the VLC player is quite portable, I found it to be very slow on Windows. Media Player Classic is a fantastic replacement for Windows Media Player.

QuickTime Alternative and Real Alternative - codecs for Media Player Classic that will play QuickTime .mov and RealPlayer files.... no more need for crappy QuickTime player or RealOne!

WinAmp - still the greatest music player for Windows, IMHO. For those with iPods, you can download a plug-in call ml_ipod, which will allow you to synch your iPod with WinAmp... no more need for bloated iTunes!

Finally, AVG Antivirus, by far the best free antivirus product out there... easy to use, low memory resources.

Now all it needs is a plugin like SafeSex for the note taker.


I would have posted normally...but I wanna use my mod points.

Since July of 2003 -- http://www.nullsoft.com/free/milkdrop/. The author of the plugin is Ryan Geiss. His plugins are the best I have ever seen.

I think it a rather poor show that AOL grabs the bragging rights. AFAIK, they had nothing to do with it!

I found Milkdrop before Winamp 3 hit the scenes, and I had loads of fun being the one to introduce it to all my friends, seeing as Nullsoft only started including it by default with Winamp 5.0.

Anyone seen both in action?

You mean like this?

Better yet, MilkDrop is the shiznit.
The best features are the MilkDrop-is-your-Windows-desktop-background mode, and full screen mode.
The optimal performance requirements are kind of steep though, IMO.

Someone else mentioned it before, WWWinamp is a web-based front-end to Winamp. Better than VNC, because it doesn't need that much bandwidth, and it'll work better on a WLAN-enabled pocket device as well.

WWWinamp http://www.nullsoft.com/free/wwwinamp/ Simple, free works great, and tiny. I'm personaly working on a PHP version that does similar and more things. I was debating on making it public or not when im done. If your interested in it when im done, or want a beta when thats ready, send a email to: phpwinamp@wit.thisip.com

Download NullSoft Beep from http://www.nullsoft.com/free/nbeep/ (Windows only)

Seems that many people don't know about this, but the latest versions of Winamp include something called the "media library", including a list of live television like streams. Nullsoft has pitched the NSV format, which works awfully well -- it is really mp3 audio plus VP3 for video. If this was improved to use ogg vorbis for audio and say ogg theora for video (theora is based on VP3), it would use even less bandwidth. My point is, if you browse through the media library you will quickly see that TV is gonna die soon. Streaming video works very well, there are already lots of streams available and by utilizing peer to peer to overcome bandwidth constraints we're going to see a heluvalot more public streams out there, with lots of interesting content.

Regular television offers us next to nothing, and everyone knows it.

Nullsoft, SafeSex , Ass I/O, Waste, Cockos, Jesusonic... These are great names for products, IMHO. 2/3'rds of this page is fill with flamey venom for the names, sprickled with actual on-topic discussion. It's amazing how many dateless, lego-mindstorm-programing nerds are ridiculing the names he picks for things, while complaining about their rights online, the **AA's and corporate "evilness" in general.

Besides, the Cockos and Nullsoft products that aren't named in some humorous way are pretty much as immemorable as any other computer-ish acronames.

If you dont want to use or buy his products, simply because of the name, I suspect he really doesn't give a damn. The names are funny, sometimes witty, and just offbeat and so anti-marketing that it at least makes me happy, after 99.99 percent of my time being inundated with slick, cute, over-marketed, sterlized products and services.

So, to the enlightened masses of /. readerdom, that can't get over the names he picks, thanks a lot for voting with your dollar for all the vanilla corporate American marketers can fill your IV with, and tries to fill mine. /rant

And Justin, thanks for being a wildly successful punk ass. I, for one welcome our dastardly underminer.

Nullsoft, SafeSex , Ass I/O, Waste, Cockos, Jesusonic... These are great names for products, IMHO. 2/3'rds of this page is fill with flamey venom for the names, sprickled with actual on-topic discussion. It's amazing how many dateless, lego-mindstorm-programing nerds are ridiculing the names he picks for things, while complaining about their rights online, the **AA's and corporate "evilness" in general.

Besides, the Cockos and Nullsoft products that aren't named in some humorous way are pretty much as immemorable as any other computer-ish acronames.

If you dont want to use or buy his products, simply because of the name, I suspect he really doesn't give a damn. The names are funny, sometimes witty, and just offbeat and so anti-marketing that it at least makes me happy, after 99.99 percent of my time being inundated with slick, cute, over-marketed, sterlized products and services.

So, to the enlightened masses of /. readerdom, that can't get over the names he picks, thanks a lot for voting with your dollar for all the vanilla corporate American marketers can fill your IV with, and tries to fill mine. /rant

And Justin, thanks for being a wildly successful punk ass. I, for one welcome our dastardly underminer.

P2P Lives

Seditiously as always from an undisclosed, secure bunker
OUTSIDE of the United Gulags Of Amerika,

Kilgore Trout, CEO

First, many people have the misconception that Winamp 5.x sucks because they found that Winamp 3.x was terrible. The developers stuck to what worked and Winamp 5.x was in fact back along the lines of the beautifully engineered Winamp 2.x. Solid, functional, efficient. Download Winamp 5.x now if you haven't yet tried it.

Second, you obviously don't have to stop using Winamp. It supports MP3, OGG and much more. What else do you need?

Third, the Winamp Media Library feature under 5.x shows something amazing -- that streaming Internet television does work. The format is actually Nullsoft's own NSV and it works really really well. What is NSV? Just MP3 + VP3, where VP3 is now developed as Ogg Theora. The point I'm trying to make here is that the Nullsoft people have demonstrated that streaming Internet television works better with something cobbled together with existing, simple (and free) formats that anyone's been able to pull off with Real, Quicktime, or whatever.

Nullsoft is definitly big into open source. Just check out their website. Most of the tools they've developed are open source. Get em' before they're gone!

I figure their open source programs like NSIS will stay open, but what about programs like shoutcast?
And please tell me that someone will be maintaining BEEP

Just for kicks I made remote control streaming karaoke jukebox. I used WWWinamp by Justin Frankel. Pick a song, add it to the playlist, then watch it here. You'll need winamp to watch the streaming karaoke video. Kinda cool, kinda on topic, kinda free (well windows isn't but that's another slash discussion)

Third Generation (I think that's what they're calling it) P2P programs like ANtz and Mute rely on a sort of plausible deniability and waste a lot of bandwidth. They're strictly peer-to-peer and distributed. When you get a request for a file, you don't know whether the originator is the person connecting to you, or someone behind them. There is no request to make a direct connection. So while you could point the finger at them, you may be wrong.

The problem with this - and I've pointed it out to the developer of Mute - is that someone with enough resources (like the RIAA, or that British Porn group) could log on thousands of times, and make enough reasonable guesses about who's sharing what with who to pinpoint some of the major sharers, who would be smart to figure out how to change their IP address and what parts of their collection they make available on any given day frequently to avoid detection.

Also, as I said, this wastes a lot of bandwidth, because you're not making a direct connection to the person you're sharing with, you could be acting as a conduit as well, so people who pay for bandwidth will raise the familiar bittorrent protests - I'm paying too much for what I'm downloading. Of course, P2P not being bittorrent and being used for trading 99.99% illegal stuff (bittorrent at least is used to distribute things like linux flavors), all those people should shut up and be grateful they're not paying $20 (or their local currency equivelant) for the CD/DVD etc. they're downloading.

Also, once this third generation stuff catches on, it's just a matter of time before they start sueing the guys who make the software for aiding and abetting file sharing, or whatever that thing congress wants to pass into law says is illegal. You know, the thing that overturns the Betamax/Mr. Roges law. Then again, the guy who makes Mute told me that he's in it for the fame, so being sued could just make his day. Though sueing the developer seems like a free speach issue to me.

The ultimate irony is that most of these client are based on Waste, which was made by Justin Frankel (homepage, Rolling Stone article, Wikipedia entry), who was an employee of AOL Time Warner at the time he released it.

And what better way to share Free stuff than the Internet?

Nullsoft (of WinAmp/trouble-making fame) released NSV/Winamp TV. A good description:

NSV is a new multimedia container format designed for network video streaming. The format is known as NullSoft Video or simply NSV. NSV was developed by Nullsoft corporation, the same company that produced the popular Winamp and Shoutcast streaming audio software.

NSV consists of free software to encode, stream and view video. There are additional third party NSV applications being developed and distributed by stations and users.

Visit here for more info

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I'm still a fan of Justin Frankel's handy little note taking app known as Sex. Also available for the tinfoil hat wearing crew is an encrypted version called SafeSex :)

http://www.nullsoft.com/free/safesex/

I found Safesex to be a pain, though, because of the extra protection. I didn't think it was really necessary.

Obviously, if anyone sees Sex on your work computer, you'll more than likely have some 'splainin' to do.

Or, as a even better solution, use nullsoft's safesex. Then the virus writer would learn your safesex password but not your real passwords to things..

How do you identify someone to compare them to what's on your black list? IP address? Good luck cause you have to deal with DHCP and NAT. Use a token instead? What's to keep them from using a new token whenever they like?

Its easy to say, just use a list but it's not easy to do that.

A white list setup leaves you with a WASTE-like network not an anonymous one.

Because the thing is that Novell is selling linux, and in fact owns SUSE and Ximian, and as a result are bound by the terms of the GPL.

The neat thing about the GPL is its seemingly foolproof method of making sure everyone plays fair: they make it in everyone's interests to play fair, by making everyone not just borrow from everyone else, but depend on everyone else.

For example, let's say a company releases a piece of software under the GPL, then the next day decides to recant and announces that no, we changed our mind, it wasn't GPLed after all. If the company never sold anyone a copy, just put it up for download on a website, well then, who's to disagree with them? If someone had given them money for it that could be construed as having some sort of contractual validity, and the license that they included when they originally distributed the license irrevocable. But if it was just a free download, and the license included with the download as a written offer... well that's kind of fuzzier, isn't it? It would seem the company couldn't "go back" on their license offer, but the company could claim all kinds of things. They could claim the release was "unauthorized", or not intended for public release outside the company, or there were mitigating copyright and contractual cirucmstances the company was not aware of at the time doctrine of mutual mistake blah blah blah. And if this were the BSD license, that's where things would end.

But the GPL, among doing other things, adds an interesting wrinkle to things by legally intertwining to a certain extent everyone who cooperates using it. If someone releases some code they own under the GPL, they still own it and can do whatever they like with that code outside the context of the GPLed product However if someone is distributing or redistributing a product containing someone else's GPL code-- anyone's-- then they suddenly find themselves with a small and reasonable, but important, set of obligations.

So, here's another hypothetical example. Let's say Novell announces they own lines 5000-5435 of the linux kernel; that those lines were stolen from NetWare by a disgruntled employee who then submitted them to Linux as his own work at some point; that they have indisputable proof of this; and they further announce that anyone who wants to sell linux owes them $699 a copy for Novell's 435 lines of code there.

The problem here is that they can't do that; the instant Novell points out those 435 lines of code are unlicensed, distributing Linux becomes illegal, period. The reason for this is that the GPL says that in order to distribute under the GPL, you must be able to offer to anyone who you distribute it to an unlimited GPL license themselves, which includes the right to freely redistribute and modify. If you don't have the rights to distribute Linux under the GPL, you certainly don't have the right to distribute Linux by any other mechanism. And if you have to pay $699 to distribute the Linux kernel, then you don't have the right to distribute it under the GPL. The rest of Linux, everything except those 435 lines, is still GPLed and freely distributable; but the whole package, or any package that contains those 435 non-Free lines linked against GPL code, is something nobody-- including Novell-- has the right to distribute at all until those lines are removed or replaced.

So, Novell currently lacks the ability to attack Linux in this fashion without losing the right to sell Linux in the process-- which would be a major problem for them since they currently have a decent amount riding on their Linux-based products. And the really fun thing is, if Novell does as SCO did after raising their apparently fraudulent claims against Linux, and continues to distribute Linux even after they make the public claim that they own code in Linux that they never gave Linux a license to, then one of

Theora doesn't have a working windows codec.

Sorry, I maybe wrong, but what about this?

The nullsoft video format which by the way is embedded in winamp uses it...

I feel blinding using a computer without DU Meter 2.21 (bandwidth graph) and Nullsoft Netmon FoX Version (ping graph) running. The two are simple apps, and I guess their functionality might be included in the GKrellM app you list.

Your example isn't a good fit. Authority to act on behalf of a company is not binary. Could the manager also sell you the actual Walmart store for $5? He is allowed to act on Walmart's behalf, right?

I understand your point, but we're not talking about someone who was clearly overstepping his bounds at the company.
The case of waste is quite similar to my example. The guy may have been working for AOL, but he was in a postition to make decisions, hence waste was developed and later released.

It's also worth noting that there are a fair number of programs listed as "open source" at nullsoft.

Here you go, Mr. Lawyer:

You did catch the details that indicate you're doing a bad thing, right?

Perhaps they discovered a license violation and took it down to prevent a lawsuit.

It seems you are exactly right. More details here

shak's nude anime gallery

Perhaps this has something to do with it?

Doesn't Nullsoft's page on WASTE say " An unauthorized copy of Nullsoft's copyrighted software was briefly posted on this website ... Any reproduction, distribution, display or other use of the Software by you is unauthorized and an infringement of Nullsoft's copyright" ?

http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp2 81_full.exe

At least they still host it. (you can also s/full/lite in the URL)

I've got a bit of a surprise for y'all... have you tried the incredible 'Internet TV' (real-time video streaming) available in the Media Library feature in winamp? The quality is really good; the streams are relatively low bitrate, and they stream beautifully. Well, Nullsoft's NSV format is really just MP3 + VP3. So that's what VP3 looks like, and I think it's pretty damn good -- this is by far the best streaming video I have ever experienced. If Theora is an improvement on this, looks like they're heading in the right direction for streaming video.