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The New York Times reports that the TSA has dropped its subpoenas. Probably because someone with some political sense finally got involved.

...restrain them in their seats an hour before landing?

I suppose you could gas the plane with sedatives and make everyone go to sleep. Better hope they have independant atmosphere in the cockpit though. Hey, maybe that was what they discovered on that flight, perhaps it was a test run? /s

Until someone shows me something with a keyboard, I am sticking with my BlackBerry.

The G1 was a good first attempt but everything since has been an iPhone wannabe, all shiny and pretty but missing that important item.

Exactly. The danger series had good keyboards, as did the antediluvian Motorola T-900 series. I could clock nearly 30WPM on those. And as much as I like the folks at Palm, I couldn't use their chiclets at all.

The G1 keyboard is just barely tolerable. I've noticed the amount of actual work I get done on my G1 is a tenth of what I used to do. Sure, I can see web pages more clearly and get the info I need more quickly, but as far as acting on it, without an ergonomic keyboard, I can't do much typing.

I wish Android partners would give up on being what David Pogue calls an iPhone wannabe, and focus on the real promise of small mobile devices.

Or, else, stop agreeing with as the Onion's quote attributed to Steve Jobs, "People who use keyboards are standing in the way of progress."

Feel free to test asteroid diversion schemes on an asteroid that has no chance of hitting Earth whether you succeed or fail.

A related New York Times article makes this point.

You can just as easily practice asteroid deflection strategies on an asteroid that has no chance of hitting Earth either before or after. That way the odds of catastrophic fail are zero.

A similar article in the New York Times makes this point, and ends up with the quote, “There are a million asteroids out there. Find another one.”

The best way to fight against extremist recruiting is to maintain low unemployment and to keep people socially engaged.

A recent study came to an opposing conclusion regarding unemployment - concluding that "unemployment is actually negatively correlated with attacks against the government and statistically unrelated to insurgent attacks against civilians"

A lot of what you read in newspapers is press releases and other advertising. I remember when I had a temp job as a college student at some government agency...someone told me to fax two pages to a list of phone numbers. Imagine my surprise when, the next day, what I faxed appeared IN THE NEWSPAPER VERBATIM. Nobody called to check, I was sitting right next to the phone number at the bottom of the press release. This is when I learned 20 years before Jayson Blair that nobody checks what appears in the papers. I mean, hell, assembly line workers get their work checked for quality using world-approved systems, but journalism is exempt.

1) The recession is partly DUE to this practice.

Really? Everything I heard was that it had to do with too much debt and too much access to cheap credit, and an era of deregulation and mergers.

2) It's not that the people won't work- it's that it's not being offered in the first place and they're claiming a "shortage" of workers (even though there's not...) and getting the H1B's in here

If H1Bs are such a threat, explain this: Given this time of cost cutting and layoffs, you'd expect companies to fire all their expensive American workers, and replace them with cheap foreign imports, yet this year it has taken eight months to reach the quota of 65,000, instead of two days, like the past 4 years.

Also explain this, why would you not want to siphon off the best and the brightest of the world?

I think it's misleading to call America's Army propaganda, given that one of the major reasons for developing the game was to keep recruits *out*. Quote:

"[Col. Wardynski] also hopes that by providing more information to prospective soldiers, the game will help cut down on the number of recruits who wash out during the nine weeks of basic training and subsequent specialized training, which can last up to a year. (All told, the Army loses 13.7 percent of recruits during training, according to a spokesman for the Training and Doctrine Command in Fort Monroe, Va.)"

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/11/technology/uncle-sam-wants-you-to-play-this-game.html?sec=&spon=&scp=1&sq=wardynski&st=cse&pagewanted=2

Yes, Wardynski wants more people to join the army, but he wants them to join because they think they'd actually like it, not because they like shooting people in games.

You can't produce technology with metal for a large population without having things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bingham_Canyon_Mine.

You can't produce food for a large population without things like this: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B0CE0D81438E433A25757C1A9679D94699ED7CF
WHEAT FIELD OF 25,000 ACRES.; It Would Take One Man Thirty Years to Plow and Plant Such a Field as One Californian Owns.

http://www.truthabouttrade.org/news/editorials/trade-policy-analysis/15288-china-moves-forward-on-biotech-crops
China is the world's largest producer and consumer of rice with 72 million acres devoted to rice annually

technology always involves raping (to a larger or smaller degree) the biosphere. with less people the biosphere heals faster than it is destroyed.

Without things like Bingham Canyon Mine, you don't have affordable computers.

It's at a point that I do not think is sustainable. I expect some kind of huge blowout in 30-50 years. Maybe we will invent our way out of it, but I think it's reached a point where new inventions are now just making the eventual blowout worse.

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The movie implicitly supports a small (I'd say minuscule) population where few individuals know how to do anything except hunt, gather, and sing.

It seems we slashdotted bugmenot for a second there, so here's a Google Cache of Turn On, Tune In, Veg Out.

I have a series of complaints for ThousandStars for using this during the submission...

1) Its a couple of paragraphs. SURELY you could have paraphrased it.

2) Its an unsourced op-ed piece. By Neal Stephenson, whoever-in-the-hell that is.

3) It is over four years old, and centers on Revenge of the Sith.

4) We just had a slashdot piece on the exact same topic that went into a lot more detail. The conclusion drawn by THAT discussion was vastly more conversation-worthy.

This is the entire point he is trying to make:

Modern English has given us two terms we need to explain this phenomenon: ''geeking out'' and ''vegging out.'' To geek out on something means to immerse yourself in its details to an extent that is distinctly abnormal -- and to have a good time doing it. To veg out, by contrast, means to enter a passive state and allow sounds and images to wash over you without troubling yourself too much about what it all means.

Some geek out, some veg out, and content that suits both is popular. Well, gee, ThousandStars, that really is deep. Lets ponder that for about half a second so we can really comprehend it. Lets not stop for a moment to assume that Lucas is just a bad author. No, no, no. There's magic behind the curtain. Right.

How is this part of the answer about the presumed conflict between technology and anti-technology? Is the enlightenment that the people making the movies don't really care, and that only plot-geeks would pick up on this?

Look, I know that a lot of people don't click the links. I get it. Please stop punishing those of us that do. Thank you.

I can't think of any other border where people act like it's an offense against the universe. Meanwhile, you see all sorts of anti-illegal immigration laws being tightened around the world and you don't hear boo about them.

More likely than not, these nations do not allow foreign entities to own their debt. Also, more likely than not, these are creditor nations who use their money to affect the policies of other nations by buying their debt. Perhaps China threatened to call their part of the debt if the US government tried to do something effective about southern border security. As long as wages are kept depressed through illegal immigrants, H1B visaholders and outsourcing, inflation does not exist~

See http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/opinion/05friedman.html

Racist truths or cosmopolitan lies: the choice is yours.

No, I was referring to TWA 800:

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/08/23/nyregion/readily-available-petn-is-easily-molded-and-hidden.html?pagewanted=1

What junk are you drinking? Smirnoff?

Ahem:

A Humble Old Label Ices Its Rivals (January 26, 2005)

Any vodka is basically just pure grain alcohol mixed with mineral water. It's virtually impossible to get a hangover from it, aside from just drinking a lot of it.

"Brown goods" like whiskey are a lot more likely to leave you in a poorly state, and lower-quality ones have more junk in them that will mess you up. It is therefore true that drinking cheap crap will result in more hangovers, but it really doesn't apply to vodka, and anyway, Smirnoff is not even a bad vodka.

A big part of AT&T's problem is really that the iPhone's radio sucks. When tests are done using a different device, AT&T scores pretty good. I switched from AT&T (not the iPhone) to Verizon, and I don't see any improvement in call quality.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/business/13digi.html?_r=4&ref=technology

Ummm, the techdirt article is based on an unsourced report - and if you look at the article that techdirt links to, it's a totally unsubstantiated piece of garbage, Are you really going to believe Amazon is losing money on every e-book transaction because of this nonsense article? No "facts" are provided, just unfounded conjecture.

This NY Times article says the same thing: "American publishers chafe over Amazon's pricing policy for the Kindle, under which it generally sells digital versions of best sellers at $9.99 - less than the wholesale price that Amazon pays for many of these books."

So does this article on Slate: "For a typical hardback that retails for $26--say, E.L. Doctorow's Homer & Langley--Amazon pays $13 and then sells it for $9.99 on the Kindle, taking a $3 loss on each sale." The same article also ran in Newsweek.

Here is an article at Publisher's Weekly: "That Amazon is currently treating the bulk of Kindle editions as loss leaders--items it either breaks even on or loses on to build market share in e-book sales and to fuel the growth of the Kindle--is one of the worrisome aspects of the current system."

Seems like a remarkable journalistic conspiracy by The New York Times, Slate, Newsweek, and Publisher's Weekly to cover up the truth. Or do you imagine that all these publications ran stories by all these reporters without making sure that the statements in them had sources?

When someone has pointed out that you've made a factual error, usually the best response isn't to get angry.

Yes.

In a quite unusual development, the government, the main trade unions, farmers and industrialists came together and agreed on a program of fiscal austerity, slashing corporate taxes to 12.5 percent, far below the rest of Europe, moderating wages and prices, and aggressively courting foreign investment. In 1996, Ireland made college education basically free, creating an even more educated work force.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/29/opinion/29friedman.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print

Considering the politician in question is a harvard educated lawyer, I'm sure he knows full well whats hes doing. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/weekinreview/01herszenhorn.html

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/21/nerd-and-geek-should-be-banned-professor-says/

"David Anderegg, a professor of psychology at Bennington College, says that merely mentioning terms like nerd or geek serves to perpetuate the stereotype. The words are damaging, much like racial epithets, he says, and should be avoided."

The banana went extinct 60 years ago.

No, really. Well, the best cultivar, the Gros Michel, anyway. It was a hugely profitable worldwide monoculture that was easy prey for the panama disease. The banana we eat today is the less tasty, more easily bruised Cavendish variety.

And now, panama disease has mutated and is threatening our Cavendish monoculture.

We never do learn our lessons, I suppose.

Yeah, something like that would never happen in the states.

We have already noticed problems with soot. In fact I recall reading books about terraforming where soot was sprinkled on an ice cap, so the idea is pretty old.

The article you are referring to is HERE. It was in response to Global Cooling, which as we all know was false and THANK GOD we didn't do anything about it. Regardless of our arrogance back then, science in the 70's was no where near where it is today. If we had acted on our ignorant assumptions, it surely would have led to an enormous disaster today.

I wonder what we'll be saying about Global Warming in 35 years.

Actually, I recall reading that this was actually being done and on a large scale. Some countries did this for years on. It was done to decrease see ice. But you won't find it in IPCC report.

There are actually Buddhist Monasteries, many in South Korea, that will take and train foreigners for extended periods of time.

We have already noticed problems with soot. In fact I recall reading books about terraforming where soot was sprinkled on an ice cap, so the idea is pretty old.

The article you are referring to is HERE. It was in response to Global Cooling, which as we all know was false and THANK GOD we didn't do anything about it. Regardless of our arrogance back then, science in the 70's was no where near where it is today. If we had acted on our ignorant assumptions, it surely would have led to an enormous disaster today.

I wonder what we'll be saying about Global Warming in 35 years.

We have already noticed problems with soot. In fact I recall reading books about terraforming where soot was sprinkled on an ice cap, so the idea is pretty old.

Short of pushing AIG through bankruptcy, he didn't have the legal authority to force the debtors to take less than 100%, and a bankruptcy would not have gone well:

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/02/another-view-imagining-an-aig-bankruptcy/

(That article is speculation, but it is more qualified speculation than I can make)

The demonization of opioids and the stigmas attached to them make it extremely difficult for one to seek adequate pain management. This is even more troubling because when one is in pain, it is already difficult to muster up the strength to perform basic daily tasks, let alone go through the process of interviewing doctors and advocating for yourself to find someone who will treat you properly. It seems that O'Bannon was well acquainted with this, based on the fact that, according to the article, he was working on a screenplay called "The Pain Clinic".

There was an article in the New York Times magazine about this -- link here. If you have personal experience, maybe you're already familiar with it; I only mention it because I read it recently and thought it raised really important and interesting issues. Maybe it could be useful for people who are struggling with this problem.

Pardon me, but when someone says something terribly ignorant, and that ignorance can be remedied with a 3-second google search, I feel somewhat compelled to step in. http://www.womensenews.org/story/rape/030330/sexual-assault-pervasive-military-experts-say http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/03/07/women_in_military/ http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/31/military.sexabuse/index.html http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/485424/franken_s_anti_rape_amendment http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/04/weekinreview/the-army-s-problems-with-sex-and-power.html Really, you missed all these articles? I guess you really weren't paying attention. You must be either comatose or deliberately blind to certain aspects of reality--you know, those parts that undermine your pithy little points.

> the problem was she couldn't handle the media and was eaten alive.

Yeah, the media was REALLY tricky when pressing her for answers on all those nasty questions like,"What magazines do you read?" What kind of jerk wouldn't take, "All of them," as an answer? I'm sure that if she were president right now, we'd be having news stories like this one, discussing the depth of her thinking.

Running a country isn't all that hard, after all. Everyone knows that all you have to do is hire a bunch of people who agree with your politics and let them work everything out.

I seem to recall this being brought up by a military commander, whose name escapes me at the moment, right at the onset of the current war in Iraq. Since then, according to this article, they are just now in the process of implementing encryption and it sounds like they're not planning on doing it for the older units at all. When I first read about this, the biggest worry was that not only the video, but the control of the drones could be intercepted. I really wonder.

Google Earth is not a uniform resolution.

Still, David Pogue is sure to arrive on site soon and tell us we should do this with a 3 megapixel camera and just be quiet about all this gigapixel tom foolery.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9507E1DD113FF93BA35751C0A9619C8B63

Everyone is basically saying "pretty pictures, but the story sucks"

The New York Times's hoity-toity film reviewer Manohla Dargis (who usually only likes stuff with subtitles) begs to differ.

Maybe some of the saving from strokes and heart disease mean you are more likely to eventually die of cancer. But the death rates from all these diseases have declined steadily since the 50s. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/04/23/science/0424-cancer-graphic.html

No. Murder, slavery, and imprisonment are absolute violation of others' rights. Beating, raping, maiming, bullying, are lessor violations of others' rights. It's only because of society's screwed up sensitivities that you put rape on the level of murder.

Look, some convicted slavers in New York got sentenced. The man got 3 years and his wife 11 years. Yes, for absolute violation of others' rights. They got off easy because they didn't touch any genitals. http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2007/12/200852512175449709.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/28/nyregion/28slave.html
No, it has nothing to do with proportionality and everything to do with sex. And children.

Nope. There's been a large reduction in cancer deaths due to research and treatment advances

Unfortunately, that's not really true - the overall mortality rate for cancers is roughly the same as it was in 1950, as aresurvival rates for people diagnosed with cancer.

I would suggest that spending more money on cancer research is unlikely to have a significant impact on survival rates. From the proteins on his surface to the sequence of his DNA, we know the enemy. What we lack is the bullet that can reach him and kill him - essentially the same problem that prevents us from curing AIDS, antibiotic-resistant bacteria, and many genetic diseases. Now that gene therapy has proven to be a dud, there's no incremental advancement on the horizon that could lead to a large increase in cancer survival rates. Funding is unlikely to help because the advisory boards making the money decisions prioritize incremental research deemed most likely to succeed over more ambitious experiments. The few major breakthroughs in treating specialized forms of cancer have mostly come from lone wolves who secured funding from private benefactors.

No one can argue against funding cancer research while so much of our economic output is earmarked for empire building or making really great sitcoms. But I do not believe that additional funding for cancer research is likely to produce a large increase survival rates.

Nope. There's been a large reduction in cancer deaths due to research and treatment advances

Unfortunately, that's not really true - the overall mortality rate for cancers is roughly the same as it was in 1950, as aresurvival rates for people diagnosed with cancer.

I would suggest that spending more money on cancer research is unlikely to have a significant impact on survival rates. From the proteins on his surface to the sequence of his DNA, we know the enemy. What we lack is the bullet that can reach him and kill him - essentially the same problem that prevents us from curing AIDS, antibiotic-resistant bacteria, and many genetic diseases. Now that gene therapy has proven to be a dud, there's no incremental advancement on the horizon that could lead to a large increase in cancer survival rates. Funding is unlikely to help because the advisory boards making the money decisions prioritize incremental research deemed most likely to succeed over more ambitious experiments. The few major breakthroughs in treating specialized forms of cancer have mostly come from lone wolves who secured funding from private benefactors.

No one can argue against funding cancer research while so much of our economic output is earmarked for empire building or making really great sitcoms. But I do not believe that additional funding for cancer research is likely to produce a large increase survival rates.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/26/us/texas-candidate-s-comment-about-rape-causes-a-furor.html

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/14/mccain-cancels-event-with-fundraiser-who-compared-rape-to-the-weather/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/rape-joke-returns-to-torment-mccain-campaign-848499.html

Welcome to the Internet. Enjoy your stay.

For an alternative point of view, this article is interesting because it claims that the iPhone design isn't very good and that is what is causing the problems.

That's like blaming Airbus for Sully's ditching in the Hudson. The A320 hasn't had to ditch anywhere else in the world but somehow it's still Airbus' fault?

To point: The iPhone would only be at fault if it were dropping calls worldwide. It's not, so very basic troubleshooting tells you to look elsewhere...specifically at something unique to the U.S. where that problem is occurring.

I have read that AT&T is mounting a rather significant lobbying effort to try to throw suspicions off of their network. Thus this NYT article and Erin Burnett's ludicrous statements on Jim Kramer. And why would they be doing that? It wouldn't have anything to do with groundswells of user uprising like this would it? Noooo.....

The New York Times has a little bit more info on the story. Apparently he sent this notice from prison, where he's serving a 54-year sentence (44 for rape, 10 for witness tampering).

I have it on good authority (AT&T ads) that AT&T has the fastest wireless 3G network, and they sold me unlimited data service, so I fail to see the problem. Having anticipated the tremendously huge uptake of the iPhone and other smart phones, they have upgraded their network to maintain their fastest 3G wireless network claims. Right? Haven't they?

Their network usage is up 4000% with the iPhone 3G intro. Seems they are upgrading their network and are still the fastest 3G network.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/business/13digi.html?_r=1

More evidence that AT&T’s data network is head-and-shoulders above Verizon’s comes from Root Wireless, a start-up in Bellevue, Wash., that is developing software for consumers to install on their smartphones to do continuous network tests. This generates empirical data for consumers who “today are buried under opinions and advertising slogans,” said Paul Griff, the chief executive. Root Wireless has no business relationship with any carrier.

This year, Root Wireless ran 4.7 million tests on smartphones for each of the four major carriers, spread across seven metropolitan areas: Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles/Orange County, New York, Seattle/Tacoma, the San Francisco Bay Area, and Washington. In every market, AT&T had faster average download speeds and had signal strength of 75 percent or better more frequently than did Verizon. (A Verizon spokesman declined to comment about these test results or those of Global Wireless Solutions.)

For an alternative point of view, this article is interesting because it claims that the iPhone design isn't very good and that is what is causing the problems.

I don't live in the USA so I have no idea how good or bad AT&T is, but what I do know is that the RF sensitivity of the iPhone isn't very good. I can think of plenty of times (and places) where my iPhone (and not just my iPhone) will disconnect and then can't get a signal again - yet friends on the same network with other phones do just fine.

Hell there are large periods of time on my morning train commute where the iPhone claims "No Service" yet my Blackberry (on the same network) is downloading emails and browsing the web just fine.

It was terrible on the original iPhone and the 3GS is better, but like the camera quality, I do think they need to work at it quite a bit more.

Counterproductive, but perhaps for another reason. The NYT ran an article on Dec 13th that indicated that AT&T's network is *better* than Verizon's, it's the iPhone's hardware that's the problem.

"Roger Entner, senior vice president for telecommunications research at Nielsen, said the iPhone’s “air interface,” the electronics in the phone that connect it to the cell towers, had shortcomings that “affect both voice and data.” He said that in the eyes of the consumer, “the iPhone has the nimbus of infallibility, ergo, it’s AT&T’s fault.” AT&T does not publicly defend itself because it will not criticize Apple under any circumstances, he said. AT&T and Apple both declined to comment on Mr. Entner’s assessments." and "The data seem incontrovertible: AT&T, while meeting 4,000 percent growth in data use, has acquitted itself quite nicely. But the company is saddled with an awful public image as the perennial laggard."

So...if I read the summary right...against a little article in the NYT...the plan is to attack AT&T with the exact devices that *cause* the problem, thereby proving that..I'm sorry...that seems an awful lot like stomping on the ground to teach it a lesson because you slipped on an ice patch.

Actually, the AT&T network is far ahead of any others, it turns out. The real problem is with the network handling layers in the iPhone. Some independent research was recently done - using laptops with 3G cards - and it was seen that the AT&T network is the best in the US.

Here is the article if you are in a state of disbelief, like me.

The important consequence of this is that this "Operation Chokehold" is going to do little to the network, since AT&T's network capacity is NOT near its limit with "normal" usage. The iPhones are effectively throttling their own data usage by (faulty) design.

And link 4 for the conclusion... "A Moroccan immigrant who was held for three years before his terrorism-related conviction was thrown out has filed a $9 million federal lawsuit against the prosecutor and two other figures in the case."

So do you have any evidence that a wrongful conviction would be admitted as such, thrown-out, and attempted to be redressed like this in Cuba? I ask the question in all seriousness. I'm not even sure one way or another if the Cuban legal system an official appeals process, much less if it works as intended.

There is no justification of wrongful prosecutions and convictions; they should never happen either in general, or in the specific case you mentioned (As a US citizen I am ashamed of the witch-hunt-like mentality against Muslims in general that followed 9/11). However, since all humans are imperfect being, wrongful prosecutions and convictions are possible in any legal system and thus to some extent will occur no matter what. Therefore, the capacity for the system to be used to correct its past mistakes as best as possible is an important consideration when evaluating how just it really is. Personally I'd rather live with a legal system that got things right 80% of the time, but had an appeals process with the same (or better) accuracy rate; rather than one with that got things right 95% the first time but didn't have an effective appeals process at all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/business/energy-environment/08fracking.html

The drilling boom is raising concern in many parts of the country, and the reaction is creating political obstacles for the gas industry. Hazards like methane contamination of drinking water wells, long known in regions where gas production was common, are spreading to populous areas that have little history of coping with such risks, but happen to sit atop shale beds.

And a more worrisome possibility has come to light. A string of incidents in places like Wyoming and Pennsylvania in recent years has pointed to a possible link between hydraulic fracturing and pollution of groundwater supplies. In the worst case, such pollution could damage crucial supplies of water used for drinking and agriculture

It isn't going to be climate change that kills us. We won't have any clean water to drink. Fun fact: the "safe water drinking act" isn't being enforced by the EPA, and even water that has very unhealthy level of arsenic is "safe". Does a 1-in-600 chance of getting bladder cancer sound "safe" to you?

Thankfully a project by the same company just north of San Francisco has been shut down. The last thing CA needs is more earthquakes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/12/science/earth/12quake.html

And link 4 for the conclusion... "A Moroccan immigrant who was held for three years before his terrorism-related conviction was thrown out has filed a $9 million federal lawsuit against the prosecutor and two other figures in the case."

And that the entire housing crisis was predicated by government interference in bank loaning patterns.

To wit...

Talk to conservatives about the financial crisis and you enter an alternative, bizarro universe in which government bureaucrats, not greedy bankers, caused the meltdown. It’s a universe in which government-sponsored lending agencies triggered the crisis, even though private lenders actually made the vast majority of subprime loans. It’s a universe in which regulators coerced bankers into making loans to unqualified borrowers, even though only one of the top 25 subprime lenders was subject to the regulations in question.

Oh, and conservatives simply ignore the catastrophe in commercial real estate: in their universe the only bad loans were those made to poor people and members of minority groups, because bad loans to developers of shopping malls and office towers don’t fit the narrative.