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In the U.S., he actually bet against the female candidate.

Not at all! Once again, Illiberals fail to recognize their own. To wit, Hilllary Clinton:

• Offered Russia a "Reset"
• Routed billions of dollars of investments — and technology transfers — into Russia's high tech
• Forgave Putin's aggression against Georgia — and lifted all sanctions imposed for same — thus practically inviting Putin to repeat the same thing in Ukraine, as predicted
• Made vast amounts of proprietary Department of State information available to foreign intelligence agencies

Of course, Putin would've loved for her to retain — and elevate — her stature...

Is this like when Trend Micro said that Russia was hacking the French election and oh by the way they "had no proof of a Russian role".

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...

Until they don't need it.

States deciding the issue for themselves is exactly the kind of thing Trump expected would happen, so this isn't any kind of resistance.

As a Californian, I hope Trump stays consistent with the state's rights theme and allows my state to continue setting our own auto emissions standards which 13 other states have adopted.

Nah - as a Trump voter these numbers suck just as they did under the Obama administration.

It's just funny watching the Obama voters on here suddenly agree.

As an Obama voter (and someone who voted for Secretary Clinton), I think these numbers aren't so bad.

An unemployment rate of 4.4 percent isn't too bad, and recent data shows people that are re-entering the workforce was steady.

Unemployment rates that drop too much from where we are may cause inflation. I think the current rate could survive an increase of the minimum wage. But what do I know. I'm not an economist. I bow to the likes of Krugman ( https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.... https://twitter.com/paulkrugma... ) on things like this.

Yes, both sides have their extremes. You started with: "cozy up to the religious right, spawn the TEA partiers, and elect a cheeto.". The current batch on the left is anarchists, antifa, and riot. Obviously there is a stark difference as one is participating and advocating for violence.

At least be honest, or did you think we forgot? Did you think we did not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston_church_shooting/>remember? Did you think we were ignorant? Did you think we did not listen?

Your false sanctimony is rather egregious. Why do you bother?

That reddit is just The_Donald... What am I supposed to look at? I showed you specifically what I mean when I say "antifa" and "anarchists". Do you think someone is extreme for supporting Trump?

Are you incapable of studying that site on your own? Do you want others?

In the real human world you should prepare yourself to defend against attackers who don't respect other's body and safety.

The best defense is a good offense. A good offense disarms your opponent before they can hurt you.

Wouldn't you rather there not be any need to worry about being attacked in the first place?

Strangely enough, those that whine about "hate speech" are usually against having the means to defend against attackers, they'd rather everyone just be a victim.

Strangely enough, however, those that whine about the need to defend themselves tend to be hysterical, to the point where they spent 8 years desperately buying firearms for...no real reason. Panicky, idiotic people, who are so easily lead astray are the ones who make me the victim of their insanity.

That's the real humans in this world.

In the real human world you should prepare yourself to defend against attackers who don't respect other's body and safety.

The best defense is a good offense. A good offense disarms your opponent before they can hurt you.

Wouldn't you rather there not be any need to worry about being attacked in the first place?

Strangely enough, those that whine about "hate speech" are usually against having the means to defend against attackers, they'd rather everyone just be a victim.

Strangely enough, however, those that whine about the need to defend themselves tend to be hysterical, to the point where they spent 8 years desperately buying firearms for...no real reason. Panicky, idiotic people, who are so easily lead astray are the ones who make me the victim of their insanity.

That's the real humans in this world.

In other news, closer to the US, Canadian government workers are not getting paid due to a screw up in the payroll system. This has been going on for several months and isn't fixed yet:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/1...

https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/...

If the parents forgot to pay off a previous balance for school lunches, the kid's lunch gets thrown into the garbage to shame them. Only in America...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/30/well/family/lunch-shaming-children-parents-school-bills.html

On the first day of seventh grade last fall, Caitlin Dolan lined up for lunch at her school in Canonsburg, Pa. But when the cashier discovered she had an unpaid food bill from last year, the tray of pizza, cucumber slices, an apple and chocolate milk was thrown in the trash.

I don't know why this guy hates Trump so much. Just because Trump spews bad ideas does not mean he will not be a great King.

Bad ideas? King? Obama was close to a king, though he was clearly a despot.

Ideas - Like actually paying for stuff instead of just charging up the credit card until you're bust like Obama tried so hard to do. Like trying to secure the boarders, which no nation can survive without (check out Mexico, even they have a wall to their south for this very reason). Like trying to fix Obamacare that is really bankrupt right now with millions "insured", though the deductible is so high they effectively don't have any insurance. Those that did have insurance don't anymore. Like calling out the hate mongers on the left for being the hate mongers they are? Those ideas?

I know, you'll probably come back with something like he's lying. Check back. You'll find he was mostly right on everything he said. Wiretap - yup, even the NY Times called it wiretapping - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0... . Has to be true, it's the NY Times after all. Yet they seem to have forgotten their own article.

Even a vicious attack just hours into his presidency about Martin Luther King - http://time.com/4645541/donald... . The crazy leftist reporter just couldn't wait, in fact he was chomping it to bit to say he was a racist and got it wrong of course. Were it a right reporter we'd have protests and demands to fire him of course. Besides it's Trump's office after all, even if he did remove it so what? He doesn't have a say in what is in his office?

Then we have this fake Russian connection story even though Obama's best efforts using the full power of the government couldn't find any connection. They found where Russia tried and failed, however. There are LOTS of connections between Hillary and Russia, even Podesta who in fact is an un-registered foreign agent - http://dailycaller.com/2017/03... . Hillary's uranium deal - https://www.nytimes.com/2015/0... . Yes, uranium. Where's the outrage?

And so on.

I don't know why this guy hates Trump so much. Just because Trump spews bad ideas does not mean he will not be a great King.

Bad ideas? King? Obama was close to a king, though he was clearly a despot.

Ideas - Like actually paying for stuff instead of just charging up the credit card until you're bust like Obama tried so hard to do. Like trying to secure the boarders, which no nation can survive without (check out Mexico, even they have a wall to their south for this very reason). Like trying to fix Obamacare that is really bankrupt right now with millions "insured", though the deductible is so high they effectively don't have any insurance. Those that did have insurance don't anymore. Like calling out the hate mongers on the left for being the hate mongers they are? Those ideas?

I know, you'll probably come back with something like he's lying. Check back. You'll find he was mostly right on everything he said. Wiretap - yup, even the NY Times called it wiretapping - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0... . Has to be true, it's the NY Times after all. Yet they seem to have forgotten their own article.

Even a vicious attack just hours into his presidency about Martin Luther King - http://time.com/4645541/donald... . The crazy leftist reporter just couldn't wait, in fact he was chomping it to bit to say he was a racist and got it wrong of course. Were it a right reporter we'd have protests and demands to fire him of course. Besides it's Trump's office after all, even if he did remove it so what? He doesn't have a say in what is in his office?

Then we have this fake Russian connection story even though Obama's best efforts using the full power of the government couldn't find any connection. They found where Russia tried and failed, however. There are LOTS of connections between Hillary and Russia, even Podesta who in fact is an un-registered foreign agent - http://dailycaller.com/2017/03... . Hillary's uranium deal - https://www.nytimes.com/2015/0... . Yes, uranium. Where's the outrage?

And so on.

The "92 million unemployed Americans" was a number that right-wing echo chamber tossed about during the Obama Administration to argue that unemployment figures were wrong and Obama was doing absolutely nothing for one-third of America being unemployed. That number is true but misleading. The majority of those 92 million Americans are children, college students and senior citizens. Only ~6 million are unemployed adults looking for work. Trump is also doing absolutely nothing for those 92 million Americans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/16/trumps-absurb-claim-that-92-million-americans-represent-a-nation-of-jobless-americans/

As for coal mine jobs, Trump promised to bring them back. Those jobs are never coming back. Coal miners make nice props for ceremony signings of executive orders at the White House.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/02/climate/coal-jobs-prove-lucrative-but-not-for-those-in-the-mines.htm

That Apple uses a Nevada corporation to avoid state corporatation taxes in US.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/business/apples-tax-strategy-aims-at-low-tax-states-and-nations.html

This is a good example and drug companies perceive execution drugs are not good products for promoting their life-enhancing brand.

Amid the controversy generated by such cases, a number of pharmaceutical companies have restricted their drugs from use for capital punishment.

Fuck you for motivating me to do your goddam work:
It costs too much
It doesn't work.

of when the left took over at EPA and started converting Richard Nixon's little anti-pollution agency into a Frankenstein's Monster federal agency using CO2 as an excuse for regulating every aspect of human existsence and using constant tax-funded hyperbolic "the sky is falling" rhetoric to propagandize the masses.

I used to be in favor of obliterating the EPA on the grounds that the agency had become more toxic and hazardous to the citizens and taxpayers than the substances it was created to regulate. At this point, I sadly see it as an achievment that a politician has simply succeeded in slapping the grabby clutchy fascist hands of the EPA thugs away from carbon dioxide, and I'd just be happy to see them get back to worrying about industrial quantities of arsenic.

Government should not be a ratchet wrench where leftists get to distort and mangle everything to the left, but then it's an unacceptable thing for a very slightly possibly mildly right-leaning business guy to come along and push back one tiny teensy smidgen. CO2 is simply NOT a toxic pollutant, it's NOT the job of the EPA to regulate it, its NOT acceptable for the EPA to use it and imagined possible future worst-case scenarios to try to get the power to dicatate every detail of life, no matter how much a part of the population is successfully propagandized into it.

It's a damned WEB SITE, for Pete's sake! You people on the political left seem to have no sense of proportion, scope, scale, etc. The world was properly revolving on its axis and orbiting the sun before those damned propaganda pages went up at EPA and the the world will carry on without those pages. Perhaps the EPA can spend a little less time on propaganda web pages and more time doing things like NOT polluting an actual river in the REAL WORLD and quite contrary to its ACTUAL mission. Obama turned nearly every government agency into a mini-Ministry-of-Truth that was pushing the leftwing golden ticket that justifies all big government fascist policies: AGW. Anybody even remotely involved in any of that ought to be fired.

Oh, you want to talk about who is taking over ? Not to mention what they take out.

For decades.

I know you don't want to face it, but the right-wing is the bastion of the thought police.

You should probably just abandon your false conception of the left-right political spectrum, and make your arguments without it. Even if you had a historical point (which you don't), you'd be fighting uphill against reality. Of course, denying reality and living in fantasies is a hallmark of the right, so...you'll keep on keeping on. We will always have been at war with Eastasia, and the chocolate ration will be increased to 30 grams a week.

Yes, I wouldn't doubt that the standards have dropped precipitously since then.

When I attended, there was this huge push to make students more well-rounded; not only did this entail a slew of "humanities" requirements (FFS, I chose MIT for a reason!), but it also meant that admissions officers wanted to select people who were already well-rounded rather than freakishly specialized in topics of, you know, technology.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, then, the Dean of Admissions, Marilee Jones, was caught having lied about her own qualifications (she didn't even have an undergraduate degree), and she had spent a great deal of time during her 28-year career at MIT trying to assert that it wasn't necessary for prospective students to be perfect.

Hey, what do you know!? It turns out that she started working at MIT in 1979, and probably came to power not long after you left.

I bet she had a great deal to do with the dumbing-down of MIT's student body (yes, I realize that includes me; though I probably shouldn't have been admitted, even I found others' admissions suspect). And, this is not just my opinion; I had discussions with the old guard; members of the faculties of theoretical topics (say, of Pure Maths) found MIT's student body to be less capable than it should be.

However, I also blame the faculty of the more practical (read: profitable) fields; Course 6 (EE/CS) was filled with influence from "industry"—MIT eventually stopped teaching Scheme in favor of Python, because, you know, that's what Google wanted—companies wanted employees who were ready to work. Worse yet, it seemed like the professors were increasingly refugees from "industry", touting their "experience" as though it meant something useful to our studies. Well, it didn't. They were awful at communicating the theory that we actually needed to master (maybe we didn't; so many students just memorized most things), and that's when they could speak English well enough to understand them; sometimes, it was better to stay back in the dorm and just read textbooks.

In turn, this probably had an effect on the kinds of students who not only excelled at MIT, but who excelled at being admitted into MIT: As my time went on, it became obvious that I was surrounded by cutthroat ladder-climbers who had nothing but dollar signs in their eyes: A certificate from MIT was a ticket to the gravy train; there was no passion for any subject; there was no sense of intellectual adventure! A pre-frosh girl became upset with me when I didn't want to entertain her questions about which "major" would be most lucrative. (Now, for the record, I have no problem with assessing profitability; the point is that MIT seemed to be no longer primarily a gathering place for those who found passion in technological or scientific understanding.)

Long story short, it's useful for people to think that I'm a member of the Ubermensch on account of my affiliation with MIT, but the sad truth of the matter is that I don't feel much pride at all; in fact, it kind of rustles my jimmies to think that I maybe got cheated out of some mythical MIT experience, especially when it was so exorbitantly expensive (but hey! At least the gravy train has taken care of that, amirite?).

Nice pigeon-holing.

*Some* Republicans are conservatives. Some are Progressives. Some are Republican in name only (RINO) and vote with the Democrats often.

Some Democrats are conservatives. Some are Progressives. Some are Communists, some Socialists. Some are Fascists and wear masks, carry weapons, and dress in black while rioting and violently attacking others that do not share their opinions.

What, only black? Not red? Camo? You know, like Cliven Bundy.

Up until just a few short years ago, the Democrats kept a former KKK leader in office, Robert Byrd, as a long-time Senator until he died in 2010. That's right, the Democrats had a Senator who served for decades who was a former KKK leader. Not 'member'. Leader.

You know, it's funny how people who rail about Byrd never mention two things. First, they never mention that Byrd expressly and explicitly repudiated the racist KKK (some go so far as to claim he never did), and Second, they never mention how the beloved Strom Thurmond was belovingly embraced into the GOP, and served pretty much the same time as Byrd.

Can you explain it?

Coincidently, speaking of civil rights and minorities, Democrats (and the KKK) fully support Planned Parenthood is and always has been, to slow the birthrates of 'undesirables' like blacks, the poor, the mentally challenged, and other minorities.

Oh no, because Margaret Sanger didn't want women to be burdened with no choice except to give birth time after time, she's not only anti-black, she's anti-Semitic. A self-hating Jew. You tell others to google her? You should look beyond the nonsense you've found on the pages of right-wing propagandists. She was actually brought into Harlem by the NAACP and the leaders of that community, after they saw the effects of her work in Jewish areas. In reality, it's the KKK that opposed Planned Parenthood, and their adherents in the White Power Quiverfull movement that want to breed themselves into dominance like some sort of infectious virus.

But sure buddy, it's conservatives and Republicans who are racist, etc etc, blah blah blah. Yep. Uh-huh. o_0

Yup. Let's see, there's the wonderful Steve King. There's that state Senator in Florida. There's Reagan's history of Dogwhistling, and there's Trump's rampant birtherism. Not to mention his Mexican Wall, Muslim ban, and inability to remember who David Duke is.

Sorry dude, but it's a telling sign when it's a Republican opposing the removal of monuments to white supremacy.

The Paris climate accord took decades to achieve, and is valuable as the basis for further international cooperation to encourage industrial development without excessive pollution. In particular notice the cancellation of 104+ coal plants by China and India. 2C maximum as target, once achieve can be renewed with 1.5C, 1C, etc. as technology develops to achieve those goals.

Can we really credit the Paris accord with any of those accomplishments? The shift away from coal seems to be due to an increase in the levelized energy cost of electricity from coal. I suspect those economic forces have more to do with it than the Paris accord. This reminds me of the DOE's sunshot program which promised to lower the cost of solar energy and later took credit when massive investment into manufacturing technology and R&D from the industry drove down the module cost. I'm just saying, it's not safe to assume that correlation between a government program's goals and outcomes imply causation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...

Do you know who Paul Krugman is?

As for ridiculously increased income inequality, we've come a long ways since the era of kings and peasants :-) My only concern is that under progressive rule during the eight years of Obama income inequality increased dramatically so I don't believe either political party in the U.S. is in a position to claim to care about it, much less have a solution.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/04/experts-headline-grabbing-editorial-on-saturated-fats-bizarre-misleading/

"The report was written secretly and released by the National Obesity Forum, for which Malhotra was also a senior advisor. The Forum is funded by the meat industry and drug companies."

That's funny, because these people (Malhotra, Eades, Noakes, etc.) who get together at conferences, so let's call it a "movement", they say that the lipid hypothesis was pushed by the sugar industry back in the 50s and 60s as a way to push the blame away from sugar -- that the idea that fat might cause heart disease is what the sugar industry wanted to hear. Meanwhile the British scientist Yudkin thought that sugar was the more likely cause of heart disease. But he was disinvited too often and eventually ignored. If you can't eat fat, you will have to eat carbohydrates, and cereals, and so on. So it is the cereals industry which benefits from the "fat is bad" hypothesis.

Your or my conviction that, gee, fat really is bad, is merely because that's what we have been taught. We did not go out there and like, spend ten years doing a systematic review of all the literature going back 100 years.

That's what Gary Taubes did, spent 5 years writing a book about this, tracing the history of the hypothesis. And Nina Teicholz, whose recent book was reviewed in the BMJ with words to the effect, "you'd believe that science was a rational objective process, but after reading this book you'll realise that was naive and the science has been perverted..." (words to that effect, in the BMJ). And hea dof world hear foundation (something like that) recently said that the science behind the heart/lipid hypothesis was bogus.

How the Sugar Industry Shifted the Blame to Fat

So the plain and rather obvious fact is, EVERYONE has a vested interest, so at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is, on the word of no-one, is the science actually objectively correct?

We can play the who-funded-it game all day.

The Paris climate accord took decades to achieve, and is valuable as the basis for further international cooperation to encourage industrial development without excessive pollution. In particular notice the cancellation of 104+ coal plants by China and India. 2C maximum as target, once achieve can be renewed with 1.5C, 1C, etc. as technology develops to achieve those goals.

I'm fine with raising gas taxes to pay for roads.

Are you? Good, because it'd probably save you money in car repairs and reduced frustration.

Congress, not so much on board with it.

Not bike lanes.

Did somebody tell you that Bicycle Lanes are a major cost of highway expenses? They aren't. Furthermore, bicycle lanes can actually improve YOUR driving experience, by removing bicyclists from the driving lanes, and even adding additional width to roads in the event of some other emergency.

Add in the health benefits, and it's a net gain for everybody. Yet you resent paying for it. Why?

Not light rail.

Not streetcars.

Oh my, well don't worry, light rail funding can come from other sources, and it does offer significant benefits in reducing congestion and pollution. Same with streetcars.

But do you resent them? Why? Do you hate improving things so much?

Not pensions for people who retired from the highway district 20 years ago.

Roads. For cars. To drive on.

Roads need people to pave them, and yes, keeping up the obligations to previous employed persons is part of the duties of many agencies. That's a contract. Breaking it, just because you resent paying for it? That's kinda selfish, it seems.

And pointless, the fact is, the employees today will want the same treatment, and your taxes will pay for it too. They don't labor for free, you know. And if you start breaking promises to retirees, they're going to be very sketchy with you.

Look, all you've got is petty resentments and minor grievances, but you don't even have numbers. Would you be able to produce amounts for lightrail, bicycle, and streetcar funding that made up the gap in the highway spending?

obama wanted single payer. what we got, 'obamacare', is actually modeled after 'romneycare'.. a republican created fuck-up put in place in Massachusetts

Actually, what we got was based on, and followed very closely, the proposal put forth by the Heritage Foundation in 1989.

As the above article shows, there were two key parts:

1) All citizens should be guaranteed universal access to health care

2) Mandate all households obtain adequate insurance

And this article goes into more depth about how Republicans like Bob Dole and Newt Gingrich were pushing for mandated health insurance which required people, not employers, to buy insurance.

In other words, Republicans got exactly what they wanted, and they're pissed.

Criticism of UL is Long-standing. They did approve of aluminum wiring, neglected heater safety, and more.

Sorry, ScentCone, but your blind faith speaks for itself, your admiration of a group with known failures tells us that you aren't even wise enough to check that they don't have skeletons in the closet. They aren't as rigorous as they ought to be.

But then, you're dumb enough to esteem the judgment of a guy who hired someone dumb enough to take money from foreign sources and not report it as a National Security Adviser. Not to mention corrupt enough to owe millions in legal judgments, to waste time on the birth nonsense, and crazy enough to call for a revolution. Just notice the whining over his last loss in court. Can't you do better than the Toddler in Chief?

PS, it was the GAO.

Kalanik is a bully who should be in jail. The $70bn valuation completely out of line with reality; it's bigger than the entire industry it targets. Even if it's 100% successful, it won't provide an ROI. And, they've basically got no competitive advantage that can't be easily replicated.

Get away from Uber and any businesses in a relationship with Uber. It'll be gone in 2020.

Do you really want to take a ride in flying taxi that's run by a CEO who routinely breaks laws and regulations to get what he want?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/23/technology/travis-kalanick-pushes-uber-and-himself-to-the-precipice.html?

Oh, so that carrier group really was near North Korea after all!

UK already has exceeded 25% power generation from renewables
https://www.ft.com/content/30e...

China is moving to 25% renewable energy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...

So the argument of the era of cheap energy is over doesn't really hold up.

The next issue will be clean air and unpolluted water and land.

You are either a shill or a troll to offer 19th century solutions to 21st+ century problems when they have obviously had long term negative effects on us all.

China is the number 1 user of coal, and they have recently shut down 103 coal plants, while investing $600 billion into solar power.

That 'developing nation' America is the 2nd largest user of coal, and is ignoring the future while promising to bring coal back from the dead. Solar will produce hundreds of thousands of jobs, compared to the 6,000 or so coal jobs that will ever exist.

The idea of encouraging coal power production when solar provides cheaper power is just short sighted, or self interested at the cost of everybody else

I am no supporter of Obama, although I did vote for him over McCain for his promise of less war, and am glad we didn't have McCain, but he didn't fulfill many of his promises, so I didn't vote for him over Romney. But he did OK better than you show..

spending didn't double under Obama, Bush hid $2.7 Trillion of his spending, that Obama didn't.

> The number on health care did go up. But since you had no choice any more it had to go up.

Went up at a slowed rate. People payed their bills, thus taking many of the costs from the States/Hospitals and shifting them to the people (and to the federal government.) while decreasing bankruptcy due to healthcare expenses. ACA was a improvement, but is not enough. The extreme rate increases in AZ last yeare are exaggerated as they only went up in the marketplace by that amount, most people with insurance didn't have much of a rate increase here. Congress ended much of the enforcement and budgeting for the ACA, this allowed the insurance companies to fold the plans with high risk people, and keep the plans with low risk, putting more high risk people into the marketplace.

>As for the economy as a whole obama saw the greatest increase of 2.9%. Which is lower than Jimmy Carters 5.6% and Bush Primes of 3.8%

He also took over during the start of a huge depression started before him. It is hard to predict what if's, but even as a fiscal conservative, racking up a deficit during bad times is OK. Regan/Bush,etc racking them up during good times was much worse. I didn't agree with Obamas methods, but for the limitations put on him when a bunch of do nothing republicans entered the picture, he did OK considering.

>The number of unemployment did go down but the number not in the labor force actually went up by 13.5%.

Actually 3.1% according to your sources, and that was due to boomers reaching retirement age, and retiring.

What are you going to blame when we lose Florida? Is there a convenient river there to point the finger at? What ungodly amount of river water is flowing through the Solomon Islands that's causing them to disappear7?

The problem that the Democratic government of Louisiana made over the last 50 years? That one?

The 58.1% that voted for Trump.

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/louisiana

Sounds like a serious math problem in counting "servings." I recommend buying a kitchen scale.

My portions are correct for a 1,500-calorie diet. You're assuming that I should be able to lose weight if I'm eating less than the recommended 2,000 calories per day. A recent fat study of the 2009 Biggest Losers contestant showed that they had a slower metabolism that never returned to normal (one contestant's metabolism required 800 fewer calories) and gained weight on the recommended 2,000-calorie diet. It's possible that my metabolism requires less calories than I'm currently eating.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html

No, its spying on Trump.
What you are telling me is all Nixon had to say was "It was an investigation" and Watergate controversy would have never happened?

I generally don't debate liberals anymore. Their comments are so completely stupid, as yours was, that attempting to debate detracts from the idiocy they spout.

You want to talk about Trump's Russia ties? Let me help you out with that from a NYT article that shows ABSOLUTE proof of the presidential candidate getting bribes from Russia and then setting foreign policy to favor Russia for those bribes.

Story here

Whoops, I forgot to mention... It shows Clinton took FUCKING BRIBES FROM RUSSIA, not Trump. My bad. I guess you really don't care about ties with Russia now that I showed your hero was the corrupt one.

Proof of him taking Russian bribes right here.

Not sure why more people haven't been talking about the multimillion dollar bribes he took for setting Federal policy. I would think something like that would be a bigger story and disqualify him as president, don't you think so?

I just recently saw an ad looking for some plain clerk job applicants and wanting at least college level education. What the FUCK is going on there? Either the school system is so borked that you can't expect someone with a high school diploma to read, write and do basic math anymore, or companies are just completely gone nuts.

I think companies are deliberately devaluing college education to pay workers less money. When I skipped high school to go to community college to get an education in the early 1990's, I had trouble starting my technical career because level-entry jobs required a high school diploma. Never mind that I had an associate degree. If I was starting over today, my associate degree may not be enough to get a level-entry job.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/business/college-degree-required-by-increasing-number-of-companies.html

Textbooks are expensive, and should definitely be dealt with, if we want our country's future generations to be able to achieve higher education, but the real killer is tuition. While I was an in-state student, I saw my tuition quadruple from when I started in 1997, to when I finished my second degree in 2003. I did not receive 4x the education value for that additional price, nor were the facilities significantly upgraded. I never really knew why my tuition kept going up and up, until I read this article. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/0...

Well, ask the VW execs...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...

Presidents don't create jobs.

You mean he was lying about that too? NO, no no. He said it and we must believe!

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/0...

Since being elected, he's created over 600 thousand already. To wit:

http://www.opposingviews.com/i...

At the top of our agenda is the creation of great high-paying jobs for American workers, and we've made a lot of progress," Trump said, according to Politico. "You see what's going on," Trump added. "You see the numbers. We've created over 600,000 jobs already in a very short period of time, and it's gonna really start catching on now because some of the things that we've done are big league, and they are catching on. Already, we've created more than almost 600,000 jobs."

We're winning baby! We're finally winning.

The days when Boeing made most of the airplane in the US are long gone, and have been for a while.

That was because they tried to open a new factory in America, and the Obama administration said it was illegal for them to build a factory in a right-to-work state (which is most of them).

Don't blame Trump. Boeing has had some problems with quality recently.

In 2005, FIA (run by Boeing) was partly canceled. The New York Times called it "perhaps the most spectacular and expensive failure in the 50-year history of American spy satellite projects." From space.com, "But Boeing quickly ran into troubles on the highly ambitious and complex FIA program, which fell years behind schedule and overran its budget by billions of dollars."

In 2011, the SBI Net program was canceled. "It was originally envisioned to stretch the 1,969-mile border between the U.S. and Mexico but initial phases of the $1 billion project took longer than anticipated to complete and covered just a small portion, 53 miles, since the project began."

According to Wikipedia, the Joint Tactical Radio System (JRTS) project has had major problems. "The JTRS program was beset by delays and cost overruns, particularly Ground Mobile Radios (GMR), run by Boeing."

The Dreamliner had major problems, including fires. From Wikipedia, "The FAA issued a directive in January 2013 that grounded all 787s in the US and other civil aviation authorities followed suit. After Boeing completed tests on a revised battery design, the FAA approved the revised design and lifted the grounding in April 2013; the 787 returned to passenger service later that month."

This usatoday article, titled "Some of Boeing's programs have problems", lists other problems with Boeing. For example, "V-22 Osprey. The tilt-rotor aircraft, made in partnership with Bell Helicopter, is under congressional scrutiny because of concerns about its high cost of operation, reliability and safety." and "Joint Tactical Radio System Cluster 1. Boeing's management of the project for the military was so bad it received a stop-work order from the Defense Department. Eventually, the program was restructured rather than canceled but with Boeing in a diminished role."

I wonder if some managers are looking at these problems, and deciding that Boeing isn't the best company from which to order planes and services. That would hurt Boeing's sales.

There are actually are cases where it's definitely beneficial to the US to bring in highly skilled people from overseas. These instances tend to be quiet and non-controversial, but are dwarfed by the cases of abuse. Worse, in many cases that abuse prevents the use of the visa for the intended purpose, as highlighted in the article I linked above: https://www.nytimes.com/intera...

For whatever reason, too, the big tech companies (Apple, Google, Microsoft etc) have responded by lobbying to increase the cap, rather than to get the abuses punished. Maybe they think that it's easier to do that, or maybe they're worried that a focus on abuse will lead to the baby being thrown out with the bathwater. Maybe they like having the option to use those cheaper services, themselves, or feel that keeping lower-level salaries down isn't a bad thing. Who knows.

A good example of H-1B abuse is when Disney make their employees train their foreign replacements. It's blatantly obvious that the outsourcing company committed fraud on the H-1B application. There's no way to claim that US-based workers cannot be found for a job that those workers are currently performing. The Disney workers sued and lost.

Google, Microsoft, et al don't have standing to sue the outsourcing companies for visa abuse.

It's not just low-level IT - as the links above show, it's entire departments. Even it was targeting low-level IT only, that makes it harder for new college graduates to find jobs - everybody has to start somewhere.

A good example of H-1B abuse is when Disney make their employees train their foreign replacements. It's blatantly obvious that the outsourcing company committed fraud on the H-1B application. There's no way to claim that US-based workers cannot be found for a job that those workers are currently performing. The Disney workers sued and lost.

Google, Microsoft, et al don't have standing to sue the outsourcing companies for visa abuse.

It's not just low-level IT - as the links above show, it's entire departments. Even it was targeting low-level IT only, that makes it harder for new college graduates to find jobs - everybody has to start somewhere.

This article does a pretty good job of summarizing:
https://www.nytimes.com/intera...

In short, you have some companies that are using the visas as intended, but a huge share of those visas are going to outsourcing companies - Infosys, Wipro, Tata Consulting, just to name a few. Those companies hire low level IT tech people as contract service support, and then they market their services (Staffed by said H-1B workers) out to other companies. So a company like SoCal Edison or Disney (to name a few from the news) will decide to eliminate their IT department and contract out those tasks to a second company. In comes Tata Consulting/Infosys/etc, and voila, the jobs that were previously being done by US workers are now being handled by H-1Bs, because the actual position wasn't filled, it was eliminated and a new company was hired to handle the roles, acting as a middleman.

You quoted Judicial Watch 2 times. They aren't a reliable source.

Your disparaging assessment as an Anonymous Coward with no evidence to support your claim is unreliable. He also linked to a Huffington Post article, well ok it was by Andrew Breitbart, but that article links to a New York Times article:

"Here at the Caribou on Pennsylvania Avenue, and a few other nearby coffee shops, White House officials have met hundreds of times over the last 18 months with prominent K Street lobbyists -- members of the same industry that President Obama has derided for what he calls its "outsized influence" in the capital.

On the agenda over espressos and lattes, according to more than a dozen lobbyists and political operatives who have taken part in the sessions, have been front-burner issues like Wall Street regulation, health care rules, federal stimulus money, energy policy and climate control -- and their impact on the lobbyists' corporate clients.

But because the discussions are not taking place at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, they are not subject to disclosure on the visitors' log that the White House releases as part of its pledge to be the "most transparent presidential administration in history." "

If the GOP was dumb enough to try a coup d'etat by Constitution, they would find out that they don't run as much as they think. There is a reason why they lost the popular vote.

GOP won (by popular vote) 3/4th of state governerships.

Nope. Governorships are not allocated proportionally. Check out the raw numbers, you'll find it is a lot lower.

GOP won (by popular vote) 3/4ths of state legislatures.

Again, nope. Check out the raw numbers, it's heavily warped gerrymandering and voter discrimination. You'll have to do some work, but try the ones that have lost in court. Like North Carolina. Who also tried such a coup d'etat as already mentioned. It failed. Badly.

GOP won (by popular vote) the majority in the Congress.

Nope!

63,173,815 61,776,554 in 2016.
40,081,282 35,624,357 in 2014.
58,228,253 59,645,531 in 2012
44,827,441 38,980,192 in 2010
52,249,491 65,237,840 in 2008

Notice a pattern to it? Not quite what you think. They're still behind 2 million from 8 years ago.

GOP won (by popular vote) the majority in Senate.

Oh, you don't know how the Senate works do you? The Math works out in favor of the Democrats. By 23 million.

GOP won (via the electoral college) the Presidency.

Yes, exactly, relying on the electoral college shows where the GOP is failing.

Every election Democrats lost in 2016 except the Presidential election, was lost in a popular vote.

Oh my, you want to play that card? Turns out, that actually, when you look at the history, you're wrong. Check out the effects of gerrymandering.

Add in the illegal voter discrimination, the unlawful districts in North Carolina, Wisconsin, Texas, Alabama, and Florida, and the loss in their Arizona lawsuit, and it's not looking good for the GOP.

Yeah, I know you don't want to admit it, but the GOP can't afford a coup d'etat. They aren't winning. They don't have a wide swell of popular support. Frankly, they're lucky they didn't lose the popular vote for the House this time, if that had happened, they'd have really looked bad, the disproportionate representation is bad enough, but not quite