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It was about time someone did something like this. We needed something like this!

It was about time someone did something like this. We needed something like this!

It was about time someone did something like this. We needed something like this!

It was about time someone did something like this. We needed something like this!

It was about time someone did something like this. We needed something like this!

It was about time someone did something like this. We needed something like this!

It was about time someone did something like this. We needed something like this!

It was about time someone did something like this. We needed something like this!

It was about time someone did something like this. We needed something like this!

It was about time someone did something like this. We needed something like this!

It was about time someone did something like this. We needed something like this!

these shots?

DesktopBSD is a distribution that is geared towards being a friendly and easyDesktopBSD intro BSD operating system based on FreeBSD. BSD is some might say is a closer relative to Unix than Linux is. BSD is more geared towards servers and workstations but, not DesktopBSD. DesktopBSD is supposed to be aimed towards user friendliness that people might not even find in a user friendly Linux distribution such as Xandros or Linspire, but is quite powerful enough that you can adapt DesktopBSD to your liking.

Installation of DesktopBSD is quite easy with its graphical interface. It gives you the option of what you want to choose when installing, whether you have another operating system installed say, Windows or Linux and you don't want to overwrite it or ruin the way it boots from your computer.

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Here and here.

Somehow, I think that new logo looks suspiciously like the one found here, or even here.

OSDir to the rescue

I don't like how it looks, but I'll probably get used to it. Having used FC3 and 4, the new 'f' logo looks pretty... weird. The theme is also a lot shinier than Bluecurve. Why are all desktop environments slowly tending to shiny?

The next release 6.04 will have a graphical installer - esspresso.

Do not question it, or we shalltaunt you a second time.

I didn't know I could run Windows 95 with Gentoo. Cool!

The Extra Packages page shows some really bad form. Calling the user "you hoser"? I know Gentoo is a hobbyists distro but c'mon, should at least maintain a level of professionalism.

~Rebecca

It would have been nice if they tried Xubuntu too. Ubuntu based, XFCE as a light, yet feature rich (to some extent) desktop. Clean, good looking, very responsive. Some screenies here.

Mark Shuttleworth is subsidizing the Kubuntu team is working on a software installer named Adept. I find this to be rather wasteful, since there is already an extremely feature-rich, robust and mature installer from SUSE named YAST. YAST is Free and Open Source (GPL) and it is built on the Qt/KDE framework and integrated in the KDE Control Center, so it would fit very nicely in the Kubuntu environment.

YaST is the app that makes the proverbial "Linux on the Desktop" a reality. It is the most robust, comprehensive and user-friendly configuration tool for GNU/Linux -- software management, hardware detection, system administration and much more. In short, it is everything the average newbie from W$ needs to set up and update his computer without having to touch the command line.

Devising a new GUI app for installing packages is reinventing the wheel by duplicating the gigantic functionality of YAST. This project will only yield a half-baked solution that will get abandoned as soon as it starts tackling the more thorny issues that YAST has already solved.

The YAST code is clean, and has already been used by Linux distros like Yoper, so it is definitely feasible to get it running under Debian/Kubuntu if their devs don't start reinventing the wheel. YAST might be complex, but then any program that excels at setting up and updating a Desktop Linux system is going to become complex no matter what.

Mark Shuttleworth is subsidizing the Kubuntu team is working on a software installer named Adept. I find this to be rather wasteful, since there is already an extremely feature-rich, robust and mature installer from SUSE named YAST. YAST is Free and Open Source (GPL) and it is built on the Qt/KDE framework and integrated in the KDE Control Center, so it would fit very nicely in the Kubuntu environment.

YaST is the app that makes the proverbial "Linux on the Desktop" a reality. It is the most robust, comprehensive and user-friendly configuration tool for GNU/Linux -- software management, hardware detection, system administration and much more. In short, it is everything the average newbie from W$ needs to set up and update his computer without having to touch the command line.

Devising a new GUI app for installing packages is reinventing the wheel by duplicating the gigantic functionality of YAST. This project will only yield a half-baked solution that will get abandoned as soon as it starts tackling the more thorny issues that YAST has already solved.

The YAST code is clean, and has already been used by Linux distros like Yoper, so it is definitely feasible to get it running under Debian/Kubuntu if their devs don't start reinventing the wheel. YAST might be complex, but then any program that excels at setting up and updating a Desktop Linux system is going to become complex no matter what.

Mark Shuttleworth is subsidizing the Kubuntu team is working on a software installer named Adept. I find this to be rather wasteful, since there is already an extremely feature-rich, robust and mature installer from SUSE named YAST. YAST is Free and Open Source (GPL) and it is built on the Qt/KDE framework and integrated in the KDE Control Center, so it would fit very nicely in the Kubuntu environment.

YaST is the app that makes the proverbial "Linux on the Desktop" a reality. It is the most robust, comprehensive and user-friendly configuration tool for GNU/Linux -- software management, hardware detection, system administration and much more. In short, it is everything the average newbie from W$ needs to set up and update his computer without having to touch the command line.

Devising a new GUI app for installing packages is reinventing the wheel by duplicating the gigantic functionality of YAST. This project will only yield a half-baked solution that will get abandoned as soon as it starts tackling the more thorny issues that YAST has already solved.

The YAST code is clean, and has already been used by Linux distros like Yoper, so it is definitely feasible to get it running under Debian/Kubuntu if their devs don't start reinventing the wheel. YAST might be complex, but then any program that excels at setting up and updating a Desktop Linux system is going to become complex no matter what.

I agree 100%. Although I'm not offended by the "gimp" name, it's hard to take it seriously after watching Pulp Fiction.

The worst part is that someone tried to fix the Gimp interface, but was told to keep his changes to himself. (It's been posted and duped on Slasdot as well.)

Wow, where've you been? In 2.0 and later, you click Actions -> Log out. They've changed the menu in 2.12, so now you click Desktop -> Log out or System -> Log out*. In either case, one of the choices in the window that comes up is to shut down the computer: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/original.php?rel ease=469&slide=76

*- Honestly, I'm not sure of the difference. I see the "Desktop" menu on my Arch Linux GNOME panel, whereas the Ubuntu screenshot I linked to has a "System" menu. I wonder if Ubuntu's is modified at all, though that seems only reasonably likely.

You can check out screenshots of the new graphical installer here.

This is one time I wish we did have some screenshots :(

PS

Its not just you; if you look at the last screenshot, you'll see they're still using OpenOffice.org 1.9.129 instead of 2.0.0 which was released over three weeks ago... If you check Ubuntu's entry on Distrowatch you'll see (under "snapshot") that they're still also using Firefox 1.0.7 instead of the nearly finished 1.5

To be fair though, after Breezy was released, a lot of the main people involved with Ubuntu went to Canada to attend UbuntuBelowZero, so they're just now getting back to business ;)

Disappointing to see Dapper will still include those awful, tired (6 yrs?) old icons.

Who really thinks of an old life-rescue ring when seeking help? When one wants to engage with an office productivity suite, do we think of an old typewriter? Scissors and Right Angle rule for 'Accessories'?? Nostalgia aside, it's time Ubuntu revisited 'polish' within a contemporary and aesthetic context.

Placement of icons are also still ugly: look at the 'help' and WWW icons in the menubar of this screenshot: they are several pixels closer to the top of the bar than the base. The icon in the middle is faded out to the point of being a waterstain. Why not replace those menubar icons with words and do away with these bizarre, misplaced symbols. Better still, why not draw upon the abilities of those contributing to Art dot Gnome dot Org or better still, the Tango Project.

Ancient. soggy icons that are poorly placed only impoverish the otherwise striking, and singular, visual field of Ubuntu as a whole.

" Any way to say "wipe the disk and start from scratch"?"

I believe it gives you an option: Erase entire disk (hda...info), or manually edit partition table.

You want the first option.

See this osdir screenshot

These fancy RH installs have messed with your mind :).

(from the beta )

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=419&slide=35&title=mandriva+linux+2006+beta+ 3+screenshots

SUSE 10 screenshots running GNOME, KDE, Windowmaker and others.

SUSE 10 screenshots running GNOME, KDE, Windowmaker and others.

SUSE 10 screenshots running GNOME, KDE, Windowmaker and others.

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=421&slide=29&title=suse+linux+10.0+oss+beta+ 3+screenshots

OSDir started a blog network like this today, but for tech.

funny, my synaptic looks more like this.
Anyone new to linux would find it cleaner and easier than click and run.

Yes indeed. It's called elive. Get it at http://livecd.debianitas.net/index.html
There's a torrent for it also: http://torrents.osdir.com/index.php?view=Elive%20B eta%200.1

From slide #4, at http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=403&slide=4

"Please take the time to carefully through all texts and explanations..."

LOL!

This is one of the reasons why most home users have problems with Windows - everyone has admin access.

Seriously, poor osdir.com servers!

On the other side, the KDE background is simply gorgeous:

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=403&slide=17

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=403&slide=18

Enjoy!

Seriously, poor osdir.com servers!

On the other side, the KDE background is simply gorgeous:

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=403&slide=17

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=403&slide=18

Enjoy!

Seriously, poor osdir.com servers!

On the other side, the KDE background is simply gorgeous:

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=403&slide=17

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=403&slide=18

Enjoy!

Seriously, poor osdir.com servers!

On the other side, the KDE background is simply gorgeous:

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=403&slide=17

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=403&slide=18

Enjoy!

The SuSE desktop in the parent post is a pretty highly themed one (superkaramba etc.).

By default (i.e. after installation) it looks like this.

I think you are referring to corporate policy here - i.e. what MS and/or it's partners choose to use. There are plenty of corporations out there, based on MS and also on other technology, that choose not to use OSS for a variety of reasons.

My point was more about this individual (the one being interviewed here) and his personal ability to be involved in OSS. This particular comment, and the title itself ("stranger in a strange land") seems to imply that working for MS and being personally involved in OSS are two mutually exclusive things. In reality, there are many people who do both concurrently.

In fact, you may be interested in doing a quick search around the web for a number of OSS projects that are led by MS employees. At least one of these is in fact even officially supported by MS.

Honest question, not trolling, etc.

You sure?
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/screenshots/document_vi ew
http://www.linspire.com/lindows_news_gallery.php?i mage=screenshot
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=110&slide=107

h, what the heck:
http://shots.osdir.com/

Looks as different to me as you can expect from themes and tweaks

Honest question, not trolling, etc.

You sure?
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/screenshots/document_vi ew
http://www.linspire.com/lindows_news_gallery.php?i mage=screenshot
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=110&slide=107

h, what the heck:
http://shots.osdir.com/

Looks as different to me as you can expect from themes and tweaks

Doesn't it look like Tux just got a beating?
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=388&slide=22