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  1. Only a driver's license? by blair1q · · Score: 2 · on Will Facebook Become the Net's SSO?

    Microsoft issued me a Passport in about 1995.

    It gets me into everything...that Microsoft controls that links up with it. Which is to say, a lot of stuff I haven't logged into since about 1995.

  2. Microsoft Passport is now Windows Live ID. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2, Informative · on First Looks at Microsoft's New "Live Mesh" Platform

    "Microsoft still uses Passport for its own stuff."

    Yes, but now they call it Windows Live ID.

    After several nasty vulnerabilities and extremely bad press, they changed the name. Hey, maybe Jabba the Hutt could change his name and apply for a job as a supermodel.

    The description of Windows Live ID says, "Simplify your sign in". Yes, simplify, give Microsoft control, and increase the chance of vulnerabilities. If Microsoft didn't take advantage of the technical ignorance of its customers, how much profit would it make? In my opinion, far less.

  3. Slightly more complete summary by cbhacking · · Score: 1 · on Microsoft Wins Record Amount from Hotmail Spammer
    In the UK, there is almost no penalty for the general act of spamming, despite it being technically illegal. FTA:
    "What should change is there should be a penalty where somebody is identified as sending spam--at the moment, [all we can do] is send a notice telling them to comply with the law. If they continue... they face a maximum fine of 5,000 pounds ($9,353)."
    Microsoft was able to get the (relatively) high amount because, according to the terms of use for Hotmail (see section 3, which also mentions the anti-spam policy) this guy was in violation of the agreement. Individuals are also nearly powerless against spammers, in the legal sense; unless they can sue for significant damages caused by a single spammer, there isn't any legal action they can take against that person.

    While this sort of thing does help give Hotmail and Microsoft in general a bad name (thus justifying the fine) the point isn't that MS was able to get $84k out of this spammer; it's that without a violation of the terms of use, the most he could have been fined for is 1/9 of that. That's hardly a deterrent, considering how easy automated spamming is, and how few clicks would be needed to recoup the loss.
  4. Re:absurd by TubeSteak · · Score: 1 · on Net Neutrality Bill in Congress
    Companies can't distort a free market, only a government can.

    Prove me wrong. :)

    MSFT


    houghi (78078), You obviously don't have your Passport.net account.

    Get one at http://www.passport.net/ and welcome to the Miscrosoft Nation. President Gates will be glad you joined.
  5. Re:It's Too Hard!!! by Ravatar · · Score: 1 · on Do Kids Still Program?

    I'm sorry that the mysteries of Passport Registration are too much for you to handle. Was it the secret question section that baffled you, or the image verification?

  6. Re:Downloading by cybereal · · Score: 5, Informative · on Microsoft PowerShell RC1

    It takes five minutes to setup a passport account associated with any arbitrary email address and thus far has generated absolutely zero spam to my email account. You can also sign-up with a "Limited" passport account, which means, you can sign up with no association with any actual email address whatsoever. You end up creating a fake @passport.com address for signing in.

    The contracts are not any different than what you would agree to with Google, Yahoo, or any other online service provider.

    Furthermore, with only accepting the passport license, it's a bit shorter than hotmail's. Try reading it yourself. The TOS is actually very short and easy to read if you're not illiterate: https://accountservices.passport.net/PPTOU.srf?x=4 .0.5610.0&cbalt=www&vv=400&lc=1033

  7. Re:excuse my ignorance, but... by jZnat · · Score: 1 · on aMSN 0.95 Released

    Use your email address and sign up at http://passport.net/

  8. Re:It's hardly a leak.... by TwoScoopsOfPig · · Score: 1 · on Windows Vista Leaks ... Again!

    Forgot the link for you to follow.

  9. Re:Dear Mr Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Preview of New MSN Hotmail

    The Hotmail newsletter is blockable, but it isn't actually in your Hotmail options ... It's in your .NET Passport options. Log into http://www.passport.net/ and snoop around for it.

  10. how do you get in? by brenddie · · Score: 0 · on Preview of New MSN Hotmail

    mail.start.com redirects to the regular hotmail once yo sign in
    do you need a new account to get in?

    http://login.passport.net/uilogin.srf?lc=1033&id=6 4855
    Welcome to Mail Beta!

    We hope you will enjoy the simpler and more intuitive design, expanded message storage, and automatically saved sent e-mail messages.

    Since Mail Beta is being built from the ground up with new technology, we encourage you to use all the features. Tell us what you like as well as what you think is missing or needs improvement. Please don't hold back. We need and value your input. Thank you for your participation!

  11. Re:Whoa, whoa, hold up now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on MSN Takes on Google AdWords

    Does this mean that people logged into their .NET Passports will have the data taken from the passports in order to serve more relevant ads?

    Yes. I can't imagine any other way they'd collect demographic data (since it appears to go beyond the location targeting everybody does).

    If so, does this mean that web site owners will have the ability to look and see what data the .NET Passports hold?

    No. Microsoft can only share this information with sites on the Passport Network according to their privacy policy (you have to click one of those Passport sign-in links in order for data sharing to occur).

  12. the truth is out by MaroonWarrior71 · · Score: 1 · on Longhorn Drops 'My' Prefixes

    I guess they decided to stop bullshitting everyone about who really owns your computer.

    the .NET passport terms and conditions from 2001 (before people started reading it, which made them "update" it... and make it look prettier) should've been a clue...

  13. Re:Not on my system you don't by Phisbut · · Score: 1 · on Microsoft To Add A Black Box To Windows
    Is this the old or the new version of the agreement?

    It's the current one.

  14. We're from Microsoft and we're here to help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny · on U.S. to Require Passport To Re-Enter Country

    It's no big deal really, just sign in oneline.

    Trust us.

  15. Competitoin? by adennis · · Score: 3, Interesting · on Gmail's Birthday Presents

    Hmm... I wonder if this could have anything to do with yahoo and hotmail starting to catch up with mail space... One of the many things Google has always been good at was staying ahead.

  16. I doubt it by Tuqui · · Score: 1 · on Microsoft Loses Passport

    They are so shamed that they pull their Directory of sites using .NET Passport from http://www.passport.net/Directory/Default.asp

  17. Re:Not surprising by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 3, Interesting · on Microsoft Loses Passport

    Just take a look at where the "How do I become a .NET Passport site" link goes...

  18. Re:Edging into oblivion? by texaport · · Score: 1 · on eBay Retires MS Passport Sign-In

    Was Microsoft's single sign-on vision ever in danger of becoming main stream?

    And how about the PassportWallet link on the main page of PASSPORT.COM

    --
    Microsoft deleted your Passport Express
    credit card information and addresses.
    If you used actually used it at a site,
    they may have permanently stored it all.

  19. Re:Not soo fast..... by tsalem · · Score: 1 · on Hotmail Begins to Upgrade Free Accounts

    I have a hotmail account from the same month, and it hasn't been updated yet.... I only keep it because I use msn messenger a fair amount (through trillian or gaim of course)
    You can sign up for an MSN passport with whatever email you use, and it'll work with MSN Messenger (Trillian, Gaim, Kopete, etc.) http://www.passport.net/

  20. Re:WAR! by Apathetic1 · · Score: 1 · on Hotmail Means to Double Gmail Storage

    I suspect MS deliberately keeps this quiet because they want people to use Hotmail - you can use MSN with any e-mail address that has a .net passport. Just go to Passport.net and register

  21. Re:WAR! by Apathetic1 · · Score: 1 · on Hotmail Means to Double Gmail Storage

    I suspect MS deliberately keeps this quiet because they want people to use Hotmail - you can use MSN with any e-mail address that has a .net passport. Just go to Passport.net and register

  22. Trivial to merge AIM, ICQ, and Passport namespaces by tepples · · Score: 1 · on Microsoft Eyeing AOL?

    I wouldn't mind so much, so long as I get to keep my old screen names, which probably isn't going to be feasable with so many people using both services.

    Merging those namespaces would prove trivial, as MSN account names include a user name and an MX name, separated by the Commercial At Sign ('@'). For instance, AIM nick "PinocchioPoppins" would become MSN account "pinocchiopoppins@aim.com", and ICQ ID 98765432 would become, say, "98765432@icq.com".

  23. Re:Here's the angle I would take... by advocate_one · · Score: 1 · on Belkin Routers Route Users to Censorware Ad
    "Amazon (eBay?) did the same sort of thing. "We rewrote the privacy policy recently"
    (Oh, and in doing so, we reset your privacy settings. You now will get spam from us. To change it, visit blahdeblah.com). They never proactively told anyone, until it was found out and published."

    Sounds like they've been taking lesons from Microsoft's EULAs for Passport or MSN...

    Continued use after the conditions have changed is assumed to mean consent to the terms... and they don't proactively tell you of the change at all... just a change of the terms on their web page with no fanfare at all. It's up to you to check them regularly.


    Passport Terms Of Use

    "MODIFICATION OF THESE TERMS OF USE

    Microsoft may wish to update or change the terms, conditions, and notices for the .NET Passport Services from time to time to reflect changes in the Services, changes in the laws affecting the Services, or for other good reasons. You understand that Microsoft reserves the right to make these changes and that you are responsible for regularly reviewing these terms, conditions, and notices. Continued access to or use of the .NET Passport Services after any such change shall constitute your consent to such change. Unless explicitly stated otherwise, any new features that change or improve the .NET Passport Services shall be subject to the Terms of Use, as modified from time to time."


  24. Re:What a deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on RIAA Offers Amnesty to File Sharers

    So, in order to buy amnesty from the RIAA, I have to sell them my identity? Sounds fair...

    Yep, and Microsoft's helping to make it easier.
    Just log in using your .NET passport and read our brand-spankin-new EULA, then you may proceed to exposing your identity electronicly using innovative Microsoft technology.

  25. The answer by kiwimate · · Score: 1 · on Will Internet Users Pay for Content?

    But I won't give my credit card number to a thousand different sites...

    Until there's a standard for centralized payments

    Happy to oblige... here's your answer.

  26. Re:Hotmail by Peridriga · · Score: 1 · on Anti-Spam Webforms Leave Out The Blind

    BTW... If you hadn't noticed the link off the sign up page... Send's you to this page

    WHERE YOU MUST TYPE IN THE CHARACTERS FROM THE SIGN UP PAGE

    Kinda like Step 2) goto step #2...

    I dunno... I just found that intresting...

  27. Re:Hotmail by Peridriga · · Score: 1 · on Anti-Spam Webforms Leave Out The Blind

    BTW... If you hadn't noticed the link off the sign up page... Send's you to this page

    WHERE YOU MUST TYPE IN THE CHARACTERS FROM THE SIGN UP PAGE

    Kinda like Step 2) goto step #2...

    I dunno... I just found that intresting...

  28. ha ha, funny not. by twitter · · Score: 1 · on Security Vulnerability in Microsoft .NET Passport
    Passport is not the kind of thing you should take lightly. This might be amusing if Microsoft were not a monopoly and they were not trying to foce this "one name one passport" as the end all for comerce, identification and control. "Kids Passport" is especially creepy and Orwellian. Microsoft is too big to ignore and the evil things they do should not be understood as just another fact you can't do anything about, such as the world being round.

    Sure, it's buggy. Police States are always incompetent. They also reasure their victims with crap like, " Sign in on any computer that has Internet access. .NET Passport uses powerful online security technology and follows a comprehensive privacy policy to help protect your profile information. You manage your information-sharing options." The Nazis were equal dullards but look how far they got. Incompetence does not keep you from being nasty, thourough and powerful.

    Paranoid yet? You should be. Microsoft is bussy building tools and attitudes the most UnAmerican administration would value. They are just the kind of hacks the Nazis picked up and stuck into government and university positions. The time to fight the maddness is now, before it becomes official.

  29. Re:Remember... by frankthechicken · · Score: 2, Informative · on Security Vulnerability in Microsoft .NET Passport

    I don't know, this still seems to work.

  30. .NET Passport is the right answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny · on Amazon Subsidiary Alexa Patents Resubmitting Form

    Protest Amazon.com monopoly. Sign up for Microsoft .NET Passport and join millions of anti-monopoly geeks out there. Software patents and giant corporations should be stopped. Read more about .NET Passport - your passport to freedom.

  31. What is .NET? by r · · Score: 5, Interesting · on Microsoft Drops .NET Name For Next Windows Server
    i've been able to find at least three distinct meanings of the .NET tag:
    1. in the web development circles, it's used for next-generation tools and services for writing web applications. for example, ASP.NET, SOAP RPC, and various other web- and XML-based services

    2. in the web customer services domain, it was going to be a secure roaming account scheme, a.k.a. the Passport .NET

    3. most interestingly, in the windows application development domain, .NET is also used to describe the .NET Framework, a new set of libraries that's meant to slowly replace the standard Win32/64 libraries (see articles at ars technica for really detailed info). the framework is basically a cleaned-up, garbage-collected, language-agnostic version of Win32. it's great. but hardly anyone thinks about it when they hear .NET-this or .NET-that. :)

    in any case, the semantic shift of the label .NET has surely caused MS much grief. it's about time they cleaned it up.
  32. Re:Who uses passport anyway by sheldon · · Score: 2 · on Liberty Alliance Having Problems

    Wow, you are so right. Nobody uses passport.

  33. Re:Other option by AntiNorm · · Score: 2 · on Visa vs. evisa.com In Vegas

    *cough* passport *cough* *cough*

    You mean MSN Passport?