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"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid" --Einstein

I'm gonna be a party pooper and point out this isn't Einstein's:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/04/06/fish-climb/

> Yeah, it's weird but preparation often seems to be a super-strong magnet for "luck".

The harder I practice, the luckier I get!

The National Vulnerability Database is by design a lagging indicator: not lagging by great expanses of time, but lagging enough for the truth to pull its boots on.

A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes

Besides, as the vilest writer has his readers, so the greatest liar has his believers; and it often happens, that if a lie be believ'd only for an hour, it has done its work, and there is no farther occasion for it.

Falsehood flies, and the truth comes limping after it; so that when men come to be undeceiv'd, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale has had its effect ...

            — Jonathan Swift, 1710

It's no great feat to scoop a lagging indicator, as the swift had already figure out, 300 years ago.

And for those who didn't know the reference: The above is ancient quote attributed to Socrates (469-399 B.C.)

Debunked as ancient:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/

If you just want jobs, why not get rid of the cash register and have them count money by hand? Then instead of 90 jobs, you'll have 120 due to the further reduced efficiency.

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A meaningful job means they are making the pie bigger for all of society, not simply standing in a place doing a thing. In fact, that's a net cost because they have to travel/be managed/etc...

. . . they're probably not the kind of person that should be voting anyway.

“I would rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the telephone directory,” he said, “than by the Harvard University faculty.”

-William F. Buckley

Lefties like to think of themselves as intellectually superior and can't fathom that anyone with intelligence would every think differently than they do. It's both projecting and prejudiced.

This is not a strictly leftie trait by any means. I've seen more than my share of insults from conservatives saying liberals are "brainless," "morons," "can't understand logic," "feel instead of thinking," etc. etc.

As far as I can tell it's just a common trait. I do often wonder if there are basic differences in brain structure between conservatives and liberals (some MRI studies hint toward this) but I still believe the mind is free and capable of changing plastically through one's entire life.

Many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

I used to be with 'it', but then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it' anymore and what's 'it' seems weird and scary. It'll happen to you!

also:

The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.[1]

PPH observed:

Those who divide people into two types and those who don't.

Better known as Benchley's Law of Distinction.

The original version, which was part of the great man's humorous "book review" of the New York City telephone book, published in the February 1920 edition of Vanity Fair, is:

There may be said to be two classes of people in the world; those who constantly divide the people of the world into two classes, and those who do not.

It was misquoted - without attribution to Robert Benchley - in a New York Times book review in 1949 as:

There are two kinds of people in the world, those who believe there are two kinds of people and those who don't.

That's also the form in which it first appeared as Benchley's Law in the 1979 compilation titled 1,001 Logical Laws.

A whole bunch of other variants on the original exist, and Garson O'Toole gathers them in one place in The Quote Investigator's very interesting web page on the subject.

It's well worth a visit ...

(Posting as AC only so as not to undo prior upmods in this thread.)

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I hate the thought that we may look back fondly one day soon on an earlier era where most businesses welcomed all customers, regardless of their political beliefs.

From Quote Investigator:

“They are telling this of Lord Beaverbrook and a visiting Yankee actress. In a game of hypothetical questions, Beaverbrook asked the lady: ‘Would you live with a stranger if he paid you one million pounds?’ She said she would. ‘And if be paid you five pounds?’ The irate lady fumed: ‘Five pounds. What do you think I am?’ Beaverbrook replied: ‘We’ve already established that. Now we are trying to determine the degree.”

So continuing the game of hypothetical questions, if you were a Jewish person who had lost friends and family to the Nazi death camps and you were working back in the kitchen of a Jewish delicatessen and Hitler walked in and placed an order - what would you do? Would you be like "Here Mr. Hitler, sir, I cooked up your order as best I could - even though I don't agree with your political beliefs. I do so hope you like it!"

In a certain sense, the problem is not political beliefs, per se, it is the actions that result from those beliefs. If Hitler had merely believed that Jews should be exterminated then that might be something one could overlook in the name of polite civility. But Hitler actually did quite a bit to cause Jewish people to be sent to death camps which is much harder to excuse.

And here's the thing. Trump and his associates and his supporters are actually doing things that are cause horrific and unnecessary suffering for people in certain vulnerable populations - poor American children who need healthcare, people from foreign countries trying escape violence and persecution, etc. When Kirstjen Nielsen decides to go eat at a Mexican restaurant, that's only slightly less extreme than Joseph Goebbels fronting up to a Jewish delicatessen.

I mean, here are these people who have done these incredibly cruel and sadistic things to people in certain vulnerable populations - but then somehow it doesn't occur to them that people in these vulnerable populations might be upset about it and not like them? I suppose someone like Kirstjen Nielsen must see herself as a decent person. Wow, talk about living in a bubble!

If you're going go to great effort to do cruel and sadistic things to people then at least have the decency to accept that they're not going to like you.

Punk kid. I remember 1968 like it was yesterday.

Warning: According to Judy Collins, if you can remember the 60s, you weren't there. (Or somebody said it: https://quoteinvestigator.com/.... Which just proves it.)

Socrates (469–399 B.C.)
QUOTATION: The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

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I like that quote; used to have a poster with that quote in my classroom supply closet. It had been left by a previous instructor, but I kept it because it was fun.
However, it's spurious and was actually written in 1907 by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, and not by an actual old person.

Isn't it weird when the person accusing the young generation of being failures is a member of that generation?
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That's because it's an unattributed quote

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640 GB should be enough for anybody, then...
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QI has located the earliest instance of a close match to the saying specified by the questioner. This is the version that is often attributed to Gates today. It appeared in InfoWorld magazine in January 1990 in an article that presented a timeline for the development of the PC industry in the 1980s. The remark ascribed to Gates was placed in quotation marks [BGSF]:

IBM introduces the PC and, with Microsoft, releases DOS (“640K ought to be enough for anyone” — Bill Gates)

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So Sandvine are a bunch of scumbags who sell surveillance and malware tech to oppressive regimes that endangers journalists, political activists, and anyone associated with them, eh?

The Capitalists Will Sell Us the Rope with Which We Will Hang Them

There are earlier instances see Quote Investigator

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.

Attributed, in various forms, to many (including Churchill, erroneously) but there is no clear indication of who the original author is.

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If the memo were actually true and correct and its conclusions were founded in law instead of wishy-thinking, then blah blah blah

Was the Steele Dossier the basis for the FISA warrant (and much of the Russiagate investigation) or wasn't it? Lotsa table-pounders from both parties but this simple question is being avoided with a 20 foot pole.

Carter Page first came on the FBI's radar in 2013, and was supposedly the subject of a FISA warrant in 2014:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page#Foreign_policy_and_links_to_Russia

The fact that he came up, again, is hardly surprising given he didn't appear to change his behaviour towards Russia over the years.

Firing Mueller is a gross abuse and violation of the separation of powers.

Muller's investigation, like Ken Starr's before it, is a disgusting perversion of justice. Probable suspicion, initial investigation, probable cause, court proceedings is how this shit is supposed to work. None of the Russiagaters have come up with anything approaching probable suspicion, which means this is another open-ended writ of assistance where none of the indictments thus far have anything to do with Russiagate and Muller hasn't even bothered to examine the DNC servers.

Tell that to the people who (a) have been indicted, and (b) the people who have already pled guilty.

If the memo were actually true and correct and its conclusions were founded in law instead of wishy-thinking, then blah blah blah

Was the Steele Dossier the basis for the FISA warrant (and much of the Russiagate investigation) or wasn't it? Lotsa table-pounders from both parties but this simple question is being avoided with a 20 foot pole.

Firing Mueller is a gross abuse and violation of the separation of powers.

Muller's investigation, like Ken Starr's before it, is a disgusting perversion of justice. Probable suspicion, initial investigation, probable cause, court proceedings is how this shit is supposed to work. None of the Russiagaters have come up with anything approaching probable suspicion, which means this is another open-ended writ of assistance where none of the indictments thus far have anything to do with Russiagate and Muller hasn't even bothered to examine the DNC servers.

“Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas.”

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This particular comment has been praying upon my mind, even though I've read it before. Before the editing of my question, I actually asked for a rather larger Christmas present, a secret of deeper thinking, but maybe all I got was a deeper thought. If so, then I think this brief comment may have triggered it, though the chain of reasoning seems obscure as I think about it now. Even more obscure when I see that you [thinkwaitfast] were replying to an AC [Anonymous Cowad] post. My settings rarely show them...

My xmas present in the form of a deep thought is not that I'm too judgemental and intolerant. I already knew that, but I'm now wondering how much my judgment focuses on material things that are not affected by what anyone thinks of them versus people who naturally hate being judged, especially the negative judgments. I would say I'm even too judgmental about ideas, though I think I do have a much higher tolerance for bad ideas. The better to blow them away? Should my highest priority be to become less judgmental?

One related observation is that it probably explains why I have relatively few friends these years... Even worse that the old ones seem to be passing away faster than I acquire new ones. Worst of all that it doesn't bother me more?

The deeper topic underlying the quote as a possible example of 'great minds thinking alike' is the ontology of people that I've been working on over the last few months. Was it really seeded by some earlier encounter with that quote? I've been thinking about people divided into materialists, humanists, and idealists.

Many of the world's problems seem attributable to people who put material things (including money as a token for things) first. They love these material things above all else, leading to the state of corporate cancerism we live in today. They are avaricious and greedy beyond reason, to the point where they don't care if their greed injures or even kills other people. They may also worship such material things as drugs or alcohol or gambling (to acquire more material things), with all of their attendant problems. Last week's tax "reform" may be one of the materialists greatest triumphs in making super-rich people richer at the expense of relatively poor people who will suffer and die for their profits. As I've often said, under corporate cancerism, there is no gawd but profit.

The humanists focus on other people first, though I don't think they should necessarily be regarded as the "lowest class" solely on that basis. I believe many of my best teachers were humanists. However, some of the humanists are kind of despicable. For example, I regard #PresidentTweety as primarily a humanist, though his twisted form of humanism is to put himself first. Malignant narcissists are like that, eh?

Me? I'm obviously one of those idealists. Mostly harmless?

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Gandhi didn't say that.

When do you think bitcoin bubble will burst and why it is before Nasdaq bitcoin futures market open?

As John Maynard Keynes is quoted as saying, "The markets can remain irrational a lot longer than you and I can remain solvent."

(* no evidence that he actually did say this, though. The earliest use is A. Gary Schilling.

I love this quote.

Though it's totally unclear where it originated.

The quote pre-dates the Soviet Union by several decades: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/08/07/believe/

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"The earliest instance known to QI of this prototypical claim was printed in the August 1908 issue of a periodical for bicyclists called "Bassett's Scrap Book". A short item contrasted the modern age to ancient times and presented a variation of the epigraph:
    > The "good old times" seemed as bad to the "good-old-timers" as the present times seem to the modern man, as shown by the following translation on an inscription on a tablet in the Imperial Museum at Constantinople, Turkey:--
    >> Naram Sin, 5000 B.C.
    >> We have fallen upon evil times, the world has waxed old and wicked. Politics are very corrupt. Children are no longer respectful to their elders. Each man wants to make himself conspicuous and write a book."

But see also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"The lament for Sumer and Urim or the lament for Sumer and Ur is a poem and one of five known Mesopotamian "city laments"â"dirges for ruined cities in the voice of the city's tutelary goddess.
The other city laments are:
The Lament for Ur
The Lament for Nippur
The Lament for Eridu
The Lament for Uruk
In 2004 BCE, during the last year of King Ibbi-Sin's reign, Ur fell to an army from the east.[1] The Sumerians decided that such a catastrophic event could only be explained through divine intervention and wrote in the lament that the gods, "An, Enlil, Enki and Ninmah decided [Ur's] fate"[2]
The literary works of the Sumerians were widely translated (e.g. by the Hittites, Hurrians and Canaanites), and the world-renowned expert in Sumerian history, Samuel Noah Kramer, wrote that later Greek as well as Hebrew texts "were profoundly influenced by them."[3] Contemporary scholars have drawn parallels between the lament and passages from the bible (e.g. "the Lord departed from his temple and stood on the mountain east of Jerusalem (Ezekiel 10:18-19)."[4]"

Part of what is going on in various ways in cities expecially for millennia "like moths to a flame":
https://mitpress.mit.edu/books...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
http://www.paulgraham.com/addi...
http://web.archive.org/web/201...

Related books maybe of interest (all easier read than done):
* "The Cyber Effect: A Pioneering Cyberpsychologist Explains How Human Behavior Changes Online" by Mary Aiken
* "Wired Child: Reclaiming Childhood in a Digital Age Paperback" by Richard Freed
* "Reset Your Child's Brain: A Four-Week Plan to End Meltdowns, Raise Grades, and Boost Social Skills by Reversing the Effects of Electronic Screen-Time Paperback" by Victoria L. Dunckley MD

That's just a retelling of the Hammerstein-Equord quote

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Try to hack the voting system 150000 times and it's a statistic...
Try to do it once and you're likely a Trump voter.

It wasn't until I read this that it occurred to me that handing out smallpox infected blankets was an act of terrorism.

It wasn't an act of terrorism, but it may have been an attempt at genocide with bioweapons...but it's not clear whether it was an intentional use of bioweaponry or not.

It was neither an act of terrorism nor an attempted genocide because it didn't happen. The entire story is a fraud, perpetrated by a former "ethnic studies" professor named Ward Churchill.

The High Plains Smallpox Epidemic of 1837 was caused by personal contact with infected passengers from the riverboat St. Peter's, owned by a fur trading company. The epidemic on the High Plains centered around Fort Clark which, despite the name, was not a military installation. It was a privately owned fur trading post. The boss of Fort Clark was Francis Chardon, a fur trader. His personal diary survived to this day, one of numerous eyewitness accounts preserved from the time.

Not only were infected blankets not distributed, but correspondence from Joshua Pilcher, the Indian Bureau's sub-agent to the Sioux, Cheyenne, and Ponca at Fort Kiowa, just south of Fort Clark, to Mr. Chardon describes one particular problem interfering with attempts to contain the epidemic that is curiously relevant to today. A smallpox vaccine existed in 1837, but Mr. Pilcher noted "it is a verry delicate experiment among those wild Indians, because death from any other cause, while under the influence of Vaccination would be attributed to that + no other cause[.]"

Sound familiar?

In 2006, Ward Churchill was found guilty of seven counts of research misconduct by the University of Colorado Ethics Committee. He was fired in 2007. He promptly filed suit, and won a jury trial for wrongful dismissal. The jury followed the instructions to the letter in coming to their conclusion, but recognized Churchill for the lying shitheel he was and awarded him precisely $1.00. (One juror denied any such motivation in a public interview.) A judge vacated the jury verdict on the grounds that the (state) university enjoys quasi-judicial immunity. The Colorado Court of Appeals upheld that decision. The Colorado Supreme Court agreed to hear an appeal and in 2013 agreed with both the first judge and the Court of Appeals that the university was immune to suit in these circumstances. The US Supreme Court declined to get involved.

It took 19 years from when Churchill first published his fraudulent bullshit in 1994 to the time when the judicial system finished with the case. It could easily take four or five generations for his lie to finally exit the public consciousness. This despite the fact that humanity currently has the fastest, most ubiquitous communications systems in the history of the species.

"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still getting its boots on." —Mark Twain[1]

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[1] Except Samuel Clemens never wrote that. He was first credited with saying it in 1919, though he had died in 1910. The earliest known version of the sentiment in English was written by Jonathan Swift in 1710. His version was, "Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it;".

Here is an account from the economics writer Stephen Moore that was printed in the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Moore stated that he used to visit Milton Friedman and his wife, and together they would dine at a favorite Chinese restaurant: 2

At one of our dinners, Milton recalled traveling to an Asian country in the 1960s and visiting a worksite where a new canal was being built. He was shocked to see that, instead of modern tractors and earth movers, the workers had shovels. He asked why there were so few machines. The government bureaucrat explained: “You don’t understand. This is a jobs program.” To which Milton replied: “Oh, I thought you were trying to build a canal. If it’s jobs you want, then you should give these workers spoons, not shovels.”

In 1996 an instance of the anecdote appeared in an article by Jerry L. Jordan in the Cato Journal of the Cato Institute, a prominent libertarian think-tank. The cogent remark was delivered by a businessman visiting China:

I am reminded of a story that a businessman told me a few years ago. While touring China, he came upon a team of nearly 100 workers building an earthen dam with shovels. The businessman commented to a local official that, with an earth-moving machine, a single worker could create the dam in an afternoon. The official’s curious response was, “Yes, but think of all the unemployment that would create.” “Oh,” said the businessman, “I thought you were building a dam. If it’s jobs you want to create, then take away their shovels and give them spoons!”

On September 13, 1935 William Aberhart gave a speech to the Canadian Club in Toronto. He recounted an anecdote in which he delivered a version of the saying: 4

One of the school graduates came to me to pay his respects to the school; he told me he was in charge of helping on one of the Dominion air ports. I said to him, “I suppose you use modern machinery in your air ports?”
“No, sir.”
“Why?”
“Well,” he said, “if we used modern machinery in the establishment of air ports there would be very little need of men to help us to do it, for they would do it so rapidly and easily that there would be no need of man labour. We give them picks and shovels and put them out to do it in the old-fashioned way.”
I smiled and said to him: “It would probably be just as well to give them spoons and forks; it would take them still longer to do it.” It seemed to me so ridiculous; we let modern machinery rust at the road side or air port and make those men bend their backs in order to give them the purchasing power to buy the necessities of life, and hardly that.

In 1966 a variant of the story was told in the Irish Parliament. The orator referred to an earlier incident that he said took place in the Parliament of the United Kingdom: 5

Mr. N. Lemass: Earl Attlee at one time suggested in the British House of Commons that instead of giving farmers tractors, they should be given shovels, thereby employing ten men instead of one, but the then Minister of Agriculture said: “Why not go further and give them spoons, thereby employing 100 men?” That is not the solution. The farming community cannot sustain as many people, if there is to be a more equitable distribution of our national wealth, and if the people living on the land are to have the high standard of living we would desire for them.

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Go ahead. Dig into OpenSSL code and tell us if there are any more bugs lurking in there.

Let's put it this way: Somewhere in OpenSSL code, there has to be a pony.

and I still do but I'm slowly accepting there's some wisdom in forcing the software we all rely on to be transparent.

Just try to figure out OpenSSH - there's get to be a pony in there somewhere...

"Open source" != "transparent"

Edge case? They fucked up the same way as Gates did with his 640 kB goof, whether he said it or not.

Holy crap! That's a real quote!

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"Genius is 1 percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration." - Thomas Edison

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/12/14/genius-ratio/

There is no God, and Dirac is his prophet. (more)

I was referring to a legal aphorism, and you, "sweetheart", are still pounding the table. If you had an ounce of self-awareness, you might realize how neatly you fit the stereotype of a whiny leftist throwing a fit because the leftist doesn't understand the world.

I was curious about the quote and found this http://quoteinvestigator.com/2...

[...] how the news is spreading to establish a "credibility" rating for the news item in question.

I wonder if it takes into account the old saw about how "A lie can travel around the world while the truth is lacing up it's boots."

Careful! You (and bartleby.com and GP) might be spreading a misattributed quote.

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see also: * You can't believe everything you read on the internet. - Abraham Lincoln * Never, never be afraid to do what’s right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. - Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

This must be a lie, i've searched twitter for socrates' account and can't find anything like this.

Careful! You (and bartleby.com and GP) might be spreading a misattributed quote.

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see also:
* You can't believe everything you read on the internet. - Abraham Lincoln
* Never, never be afraid to do what’s right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. - Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Vent all you want but your words ring hollow when for the last eight years all we've heard is how bad things are, how horrible this president has been, how he should be impeached (for doing his job), and all the other vitriol cast upon him almost solely because of his race

References, please. Who said these things? Random Internet trolls, or what? I haven't seen any major figures in the Republican party cast vitriol on President Obama because of his race.

I can't claim that none of them are racists, but I can claim that none of them were caught saying such things, because the news media has a field day anytime a Republican says something stupid or hateful or embarrassing.

If things are so bad then why suddenly, when not a single thing has changed in the last week, are Republicans suddenly saying the economy is doing well and there are no problems?

Your reference does not support your claim. You said that Republicans are suddenly saying that the economy is doing well, but you linked to a poll about whether the economy will improve or not ("economic confidence"). And surprise surprise, Democrats polled believe that the economy will do worse now that Trump was elected, while Republicans polled believe that the economy will do better.

Because in a Republican's world if you don't bow down to your leader, if you don't blindly follow the leader, if you don't think like the leader, you're an enemy. Wouldn't want to open a Republican's hypocritical and bigoted mind by listening to others who don't agree, now would we?

I'm sure you could find some examples of Republicans like this, if you look. But I can find plenty of examples of Democrats like this, who feel that anyone who isn't a liberal Democrat is an enemy.

President Obama famously said that it's important to vote to "punish your enemies."[1] The Project Veritas videos show multiple Democrat operatives saying that Trump voters are violent and insane, and one referring to Republicans as "you f***ing ****holes".[2] In 2015, Hillary Clinton called Republicans "enemies" and Bill Clinton said she was right to do so. Here's an article detailing a list of Republicans or conservatives who are considered "enemies" by Nancy Pelosi. Harry Reid declared the Koch brothers are "enemies of progress."

Liberals don't like to praise Ronald Reagan, but he was very successful at working with the opposition. He had a famous saying: "It's amazing what you can accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit for it." (It appears that Harry S. Truman said it first... hey, it's bipartisan! And similar quotes have been found from over 150 years ago. source)

[1] Full quote for full context:

"If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, 'We're gonna punish our enemies and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,' if they don't see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it's gonna be harder and that's why I think it's so important that people focus on voting on November 2."

[2] Full quote for full context:

"It's a very easy thing for Republicans to say, 'Well, they're busing people in.' Well, you know what? We've been busing people in to deal with you f***ing ***holes for fifty years and we're not going to stop now, we're just going to find a different way to do it."

Nope.

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Steve Jobs once remarked that mediocre people focus on other people, while smart people focus on ideas.

He may have said it, but it certainly isn't his quote. It looks like the quote comes from Charles Stewart in 1901:
"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas."

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Bees are gone, we have about 4 years to live I understand Einstein said.

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He didn't say it, it wasn't even a scientist but a writer who made that claim. Also, 1 data point does not make a pattern, there are many bee hives that are thriving while yours are having issues caused by (as you admit!) local circumstances.

This concept is nothing new....

Choose a Lazy Person To Do a Hard Job Because That Person Will Find an Easy Way To Do It

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My guess is this appeals to people on the energetic/stupid spectrum.....

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