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That's a poor paraphrase that doesn't capture the spirit of the original.

He left a quote not a paraphrase. But anyway, the full version is:

Ultimately it comes down to taste. It comes down to trying to expose yourself to the best things that humans have done and then try to bring those things in to what youâ(TM)re doing. I mean Picasso had a saying he said good artists copy great artists steal. And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.

Until It Is Officially Denied http://quoteinvestigator.com/2...

Wikipedia lacks citations.
Raw Deal may have citation, but I'd have to buy it to find out.
The Economist article has no citation, and specifically describes the story as "apocyphal."
This site does seem to have done a little research into it, with lots of citations.
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2...

The earliest reference to the story is differently worded ("Fords" not "cars") and describes an exchange between Reuther and an unnamed Ford manager, not Mr Ford himself as some later versions say. Later retellings continue to embellish and reword. Even when Reuther personally retold the story it changed slightly each time.

This suggests that there may have been an encounter that started the story, but it is almost certainly did not involve Ford himself and all other elements of the story should be considered as possible but unreliable. It might be even be an encounter that Reuther made up entirely - he never stated the name of the person he was speaking to or the date of the encounter, and there is no known witness aside from himself.

that automation is a good thing.

Foreseeing uses for technology - you make it sound so simple... Let me leave a few quotes you may be joining soon:

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
Thomas Watson, president of IBM, 1943

A misquote

"Television won't be able to hold on to any market it captures after the first six months. People will soon get tired of staring at a plywood box every night."
Darryl Zanuck, executive at 20th Century Fox, 1946

This one seems legit.

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
Ken Olsen, founder of Digital Equipment Corporation, 1977

He admitted saying it, but seems to have had different computers in mind.

"640K ought to be enough for anybody."
Bill Gates, founder of Microsoft, 1981

You are not even trying, this is probably the most questioned attribution on the web

I am surprised you did not misquote Henry Ford here, would be a perfect fit.

That's been said many tines.

This seems to be more reliably attributed to Oscar Wilde.

"Don't believe everything you read on the internet." -- Abraham Lincoln

This seems to be more reliably attributed to Oscar Wilde.

I think Woody stole that line from Groucho --

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/04/18/groucho-resigns

The saying definitely predates Twain:

http://www.twainquotes.com/Lies.html
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/07/13/truth/

> Too far, and simply not worth the trouble.

There are genuine and quite expensive difficulties, certainly. Please note that this is a quite different claim than "Only the Earth has anything remotely like the environment and resources that we need to sustain life."

The difference has reminded me of the very, very old joke described at http://quoteinvestigator.com/2.... The situation is somewhat reversed: instead of establishing that we'd "sleep with another world" if paid millions of dollars, and now haggling over whether we'd do it for $5, you're saying that "it would cost too much to sleep on another world". But how low would the price have to be to allocate the budget to pursue this?

For example, there are potentially very profitable reasons to establish bases near Saturn. If and as space industry grows, water is an expensive commodity to ship to orbit: Most hydrogen and oxygen in modern spacecraft are used as rocket propellant, unrecoverable for use in space industry.Hydrogen is relatively easy to gather from solar wind, but oxygen becomes a commodity for both life support and energy supplies. The icy rings of Saturn are a _tremendous_ source of solar sail portable water. It takes long-term investment to harvest them, and careful management to deliver them safely and usefully to Earth orbit space industries. But in the long terms of space exploration, it could indeed be profitable to have stable, regularly harvested water deliveries from the moons of Saturn. And a stable base on a moon like Enceladus could provide tremendous scientific research benefit on possible water based life there, and also serve as a stable navigation, communications, and repair center. And with a whole local moon for material resources, one much less susceptible to orbital perturbations than a ship or space station, it could be an invaluable location for stored or emergency resources.

I'm not suggesting this is the best option or best project to pursue. But it's precisely the kind of speculative engineering and multi-purpose mission planning that NASA should be considering for longer term projects.

As Albert Einstein used to say :" two things are infinite in this world. Stupidity is one".

Highly dubious.

That is the difference between the average and the great IMHO.

Or the lucky.

Yeah, but The harder I work, the luckier I get.

There is an element of luck, but Musk is a hard worker and knows how to surround himself with brilliant people that he has the ability to lead on a common task. This is something that most people cannot do.

IEEE Spectrum had an article last year describing some of the challenges we'll need to overcome in order to achieve exascale computing.

Here's another, somewhat pessimistic piece they posted in 2008 - a digest of a DARPA report that went into significant technical detail.

The biggest hurdle is power, and the biggest driver of that isn't the actual computation (i.e., the energy to perform some number of FLOPS), but rather moving that data around (between cores, to/from RAM, across a PCB, and among servers). Other hurdles include how to manage so many cores, ensure they are working (nearly) concurrently, how to handle hardware failures (which will be frequent given the amount of hardware), and writing software that can even make use of such technology in anything approaching optimal fashion.

Not to say its impossible, merely hard given the present state of things and projecting a bit into the future. But as we know, "it is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future." [source?]

The only external claim that I made was 25-50 storeys being 10 times 4 storeys. Rest all is concluded from that.

If you "value logical arguments very highly" (That was sarcasm), go ahead and provide substantiation for Increased taxes would materialize; property values would go up, and the owners of the property would make more money, thus paying additional taxes

While providing substantiation, remember this statement of yours is about the future, and extraordinary claims need extraordinary proofs.

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2...

I would say there is good evidence that Democrats don't think with their heads.

Calling Republicans stupid is ignoring the reality that you are the one being stupid there. Often you will find that there are very good reasons for Republican positions, you just don't understand them because you fail to even consider that people could think differently from you and still be intelligent.

That little story has been attributed to a number of people. I do not claim the joke for myself: Posting as AC, doing so would be particularly pointless. Note that I put the story in quotes. I have deliberately omitted names because the joke works without them.

No, he didn't have a point (nor did he actually say that). But why would you expect well behaved children in a situation where they're expecting to fight and possibly die in an incompetently run, losing conflict? Let us keep in mind that just before the collapse of the Athenian empire, they would still be reeling from their humiliating defeat at the hands of Syracuse, a city state with inferior military power (but a far better tactical and strategic position than the invading Athenian forces had).

This article suggests the most likely source for the quote commonly attributed to Socrates was actually crafted by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907.

Looking at the digital copy of the dissertation linked in the above article, it looks like the source for the Socrates quote is a combination of two sections of text on page 74 of the disertation.

Socrates quote from grandparent:
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

Quote noted as misattributed to Socrates and suggested as paraphrased from Aristophanes at end of wiki link from parent:
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Excerpt from Kenneth John Freeman's 1907 dissertation:
[Lines 5-7] "The counts of the indictment are luxury, bad manners, contempt for authority, disrespect to elders, and a love for chatter in place of exercise. [Lines 19-21] Children began to be the tyrants, not the slaves, of their households. They no longer rose from their seats when an elder entered the room; they contradicted their parents, chattered before company, gobbled up the dainties at table, and committed various offences against Hellenic tastes, such as crossing their legs. They tyrannised over the paidagogoi and schoolmasters."

Einstein did not say that.

"Only when the last tree has been cut down, the last fish been caught, and the last stream poisoned, will we realize we cannot eat money." (source).

If AGW is real and the global temperature is to rise unmitigated, the rich (who actually own the planet) will actually start doing something about that only when war comes knocking on their front doors.

Up until then there will be no tangible changes to prevent further warming of the Earth.

Correct on the misattribution: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2... TLDR: Created by Kenneth John Freeman a Cambridge, UK student in his dissertation in 1907.

Food for Thought: Oh, dear me, how unspeakably funny and owlishly idiotic and grotesque was that "plagiarism" farce! As if there was much of anything in any human utterance, oral or written, except plagiarism! The kernal, the soul - let us go further and say the substance, the bulk, the actual and valuable material of all human utterances'- is plagiarism. For substantially all ideas are second-hand, consciously and unconsciously drawn from a million outside sources, and daily used by the garnerer with a pride and satisfaction born of the superstition that he originated them; whereas there is not a rag of originality about them anywhere except the little discoloration they get from his mental and moral calibre and his temperament, and which is revealed in characteristics of phrasing. When a great orator makes a great speech you are listening to ten centuries and ten thousand men - but we call it his speech, and really some exceedingly smail portion of it is his. But not enough to signify. It is merely a Waterloo. It is Wellington's battle, in some degree, and we call it his; but there are others that contributed. It takes a thousand men to invent a telegraph, or a steam engine, or a phonograph, or a photograph, or a telephone or any other important thing-and the last man gets the credit and we forget the others. He added his little mite - that is all he did. These object lessons should teach us that ninety-nine parts of all things that proceed from the intellect are plagiarisms, pure and simple; and the lesson ought to make us modest. But nothing can do that.

Letter to Helen Keller, after she had been accused of plagiarism for one of her early stories (17 March 1903), published in Mark Twain's Letters, Vol. 1 (1917) edited by Albert Bigelow Paine, p. 731.
Mark Twain 1903-03-17

or

The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. - Albert Einstein

Einstein is more humorous of the 2 once you consider this in-depth look at it which infers Einstein plagiarized by rewording the quote.

I guess it depends on how much everyone learns from history or example. Of course, it's been joked that those who study history are condemned to watch others repeat it... :-(
http://www.historyisaweapon.co...

Those changes to Germany came from the values of a 1930s/1940s USA.
http://www.salon.com/2010/08/2...
"How did Germany become such a great place to work in the first place? The Allies did it. This whole European model came, to some extent, from the New Deal. Our real history and tradition is what we created in Europe. Occupying Germany after WWII, the 1945 European constitutions, the UN Charter of Human Rights all came from Eleanor Roosevelt and the New Dealers. All of it got worked into the constitutions of Europe and helped shape their social democracies. It came from us. The papal encyclicals on labor, it came from the Americans."

But, sadly, that USA and its values effectively no longer exist 70-80 years later. Today's USA has different values -- some are better (less racism and sexism overall, more respect for the environment), others are worse (less respect for workers, the "two-income trap", policies that promote a greater rich/poor divide, and more meddling in other nation's affairs which may produce profits for some connected few but produces huge costs for the whole USA let along the disrupted countries).

The real issue may be, like Gandhi is claimed to have said when asked by a journalist: "What do you think of Western civilization?", he said, "I think it would be a good idea."
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2...

At this point, as US citizen, I'm much more concerned about what the US government does both abroad and at home (including stuff like supporting a repressive Saudi Arabia, other actions abroad that make terrorist blowback more likely, domestic cage-like "free speech zones", domestic rulings saying border patrols can operate in a constitution-ignoring way up to 100 miles inland, etc.) -- than what people in the Middle East cradle of civilization do. And I remain always aware there are large numbers of nuclear weapons still ready to fly on short notice...
http://politics.slashdot.org/s...
http://www.salon.com/2015/01/2...

So, what will it take to civilize the USA? A basic income might be a start...

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/07/28/ford-faster-horse/

It doesn't invalidate the point, but it's important to be accurate.

Its pretty easy to find places where this is clearly not true (eg: Syria). But those are localized places and times. That's like finding a place where entropy seems to be decreasing; you can do that, but that only means elsewhere it increased more. Human society seems to follow Theodore Parker's principle: The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice.

This seems like a good place and time for my favorite Christmas song, written by Longfellow after he'd lost his entire family (wife included) during the Civil War:

I heard the bells on Christmas day Their old familiar carols play, And wild and sweet the words repeat Of peace on earth, good will to men.

I thought how, as the day had come, The belfries of all Christendom Had rolled along th'unbroken song Of peace on earth, good will to men.

And in despair I bowed my head: "There is no peace on earth," I said, "For hate is strong and mocks the song Of peace on earth, good will to men."

Then pealed the bells more loud and deep: "God is not dead, nor doth he sleep; The wrong shall fail, the right prevail, With peace on earth, good will to men."

Till, ringing, singing, on its way, The world revolved from night to day, A voice, a chime, a chant sublime, Of peace on earth, good will to men!

Yep, there are no natural monopolies, and where a company becomes a monopoly without any government intervention it does not mean it is a bad thing, it means the company is providing the best product at the lowest price at the time and place.

It is like Edison said: We will make electricity so cheap that only the rich will burn candles.

The free market (free from government abuse and protected with laws that are applied equally to all market participants without discrimination) capitalist (private property ownership and operation) economy works to lower prices and to increase choices due to competitive pressures and desire to get more market share, all of which is what 'trickle down' economics actually is.

The 'trickle down' effect does not come from money that is spent on leisure and consumption, the trickle down effect is the effect of the wealth being invested productively to lower prices and increase choices. This is something that many choose to ridicule, yet they benefit from this effect every time they get any benefit from the modern economy, which is all created from money that was made from businesses creating things cheaper and more efficiently (and when I say all was created by businesses, that is exactly what I mean, even the taxes that are stolen from the productive people are used by government in very few occasions to run yet another ponzi scam of a program, that money first had to be made by a business to be stolen by the government).

While I'm not a Gates fan, this whole thing looks like stupid urban rumor.

Looks like Bill's not too proud to revise history...

It seems to me that Bill isn't revising history here. He made the 64k to 640k comment in 1981, but never said anything about not needing more than that. Then infoworld pops this quote with no reference or anything. They certainly didn't interview him so where on earth did they pull that quote from? A lot of people have looked into it, including people from that page you sourced this from, yet nobody could find a proper source.

Which by the way, the page AC is referencing is here: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2...

The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money to pay for stuff.

Lets see here... over 5 thousand years of socialism and the most advanced technology is a horse drawn cart. Under 200 years of private propery laws and private property ownership and we are landing on the moon and curing some types of cancer.

Keep your socialism, there are plenty of places where you can practice that. Let me keep my private ownership of property and my advanced society. If you want to live in a mud hut and wonder if your leader will allow you enough food to live on, thats your choice.

Where's my '-1 ignoramus' mod when I need it?

You have absolutely no historical perspective, none of the "points" you're making have any basis in reality. For pity's sake, this should be your motto.

Considering

"Good artists copy; great artists steal." -- Steve Jobs misquoting Pablo Picasso ...

I'm not surprised.

The cautionary tale has turned into a tragedy.

Don't worry.

Comedy is tragedy plus time. - Various

Somehow it doesn't console me that future generations will be laughing at us,

The cautionary tale has turned into a tragedy.

Don't worry.

Comedy is tragedy plus time. - Various

New taxes are never the solution. Ever.

Taxes are the costs of living in a society. I own this country, and I don't want you to live in this country without paying me something for it.

That is because humans are territorial animals. I have no desire to allow you to live in this country for free, when I can take all the resources of this land for myself. If you want to live on this land, you're going to have to pay me, and the rest of us citizenry. Otherwise, GTFO.

Taxes are the tribute you, as a citizen, pay to other citizens like me, for allowing you to live in this country.

This is the punishment you get for having little power in life. Sucks, but your libertarian philosophy mistakenly led you to believe you had more power than you thought you had. This is why adults never teach their children to be libertarian, because that is the incorrect view of life.

Remember, life isn't free. People live under the power of others, and no one is interested in allowing you freedom to live your life on your own. You will always have to live your life under the rule of someone else, because someone else controls the land you live in.

If you don't like that system you will have to find a way to rule over the land you wish to live on without any other rulers over it. Maybe you can try your hand at becoming a Somali warlord?

That's not bad, but I think Oliver Wendell Holmes said it (he wasn't the first, but he's the one most often cited) more succinctly: "Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society."

Another important 'advantage' for Apple is that anything written in this language is locked to their platform, at least for now. The same goes for anything written to the new 'Metal' graphics api. Seen in that light, Swift-the-language and Metal-the-api are comparable to C#-the-language and Direct3D-the-api.

A bit like that quote Jobs 'stole' from a well-known artist: Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal.

4,294,967K should be enough for anybody.

640K ought to be enough for anyone.
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2...

There's a famous possible Einstein quote,

Everything Should Be Made as Simple as Possible, But Not Simpler

The fire theory fails the second bit. Assuming we can trust the facts published in the media:

• The transponder, located next to the pilot, was switched off before the pilot's last radio communication
• The plane continued to make controlled direction changes long after the loss of communication
• The ACARS system was turned off in a very specific way not consistent with a fire

What's dangerous about the fact that people continue to spread this theory long after it has been clearly ruled out by the facts is that it is exactly the kind of questioning of experts which a) looks stupid and so discredits questioning of experts and b) stupid people will believe it without checking the facts and so discredit the experts when they actually are right and are behaving like experts. Both of those things encourage stupid.

1982, Partners in Ecocide: Australia’s Complicity in the Uranium Cartel by V. G. Venturini (Venturino Giorgio Venturini), (Epigraph facing the title page), Rigmarole Book Publishers, Clifton Hill, Australia. (Verified with scans; thanks to John McChesney-Young and the University of California, Berkeley library system)

When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money.

[citation needed]

'At one of our dinners, Milton recalled traveling to an Asian country in the 1960s and visiting a worksite where a new canal was being built. He was shocked to see that, instead of modern tractors and earth movers, the workers had shovels. He asked why there were so few machines. The government bureaucrat explained: “You don’t understand. This is a jobs program.” To which Milton replied: “Oh, I thought you were trying to build a canal. If it’s jobs you want, then you should give these workers spoons, not shovels.”

yes - "innovation" will destroy jobs (file that observation under creative destruction) but that will also result in new (as yet unknown) opportunities...

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/10/10/spoons-shovels/

At one of our dinners, Milton recalled traveling to an Asian country in the 1960s and visiting a worksite where a new canal was being built. He was shocked to see that, instead of modern tractors and earth movers, the workers had shovels. He asked why there were so few machines. The government bureaucrat explained: “You don’t understand. This is a jobs program.” To which Milton replied: “Oh, I thought you were trying to build a canal. If it’s jobs you want, then you should give these workers spoons, not shovels.”

This is the obverse of the equally-timeless idea that the world is going to hell because the lazy, uncultured, over-coddled kids these days look/talk/act funny and play terrible music.

The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.

--Kenneth John Freeman (1907)

http://quoteinvestigator.com/tag/walter-reuther/

I really like that quote and I don't care that it was Churchill that said it - I'm not a fan of his but he came out with good one-liners.

Very little of what is attributed to Winston Churchill ever passed his lips. He wasn't really that witty in public.

Quotes Investigator: Winston Churchill

There was even one uttered by his son Randolph that was attibuted to his father.

Just because I know this information is vitally important to the continuation of the species, this quote was misattributed to Twain 20 years after he died. Extensive research on the phrase: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/06/09/urge-to-exercise/

Nobody ever said Bill Gates ever said that. The assertion was that he said that at the time that 640k ought to be enough for anyone. He has since avidly denied ever saying anything of the sort, but there is still some debate if anyone cares.

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/11/21/graveyards-full/

FYI. According to this quoteinvestigator article, there is no evidence Einstein ever said that.

Quote Invesigator (where you likely got your material from) makes a pretty good case that the modern quote actually originated from composer Roger Sessions in 1950, and may have been inspired by something Einstein had to say specifically about theories.

Holy hyperbole, batman – and this is what gets +5 insightful?

ClintJCL, you don't believe we should allow private ownership of nuclear weapons. After that, we're just haggling over price.

"It is bad to ruin the environment. But it is far worse to misattribute modern environmental sayings to ancient Native Americans."

Problem: It really did come from the Native Americans. Two centuries ago.