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Hmm... I'm familiar with this having played first and second violin in at least one very good orchestra as well. The idea being that the conductor is there to alter the performance as he sees fit. I remember us being told not to rush, or to play other passages in a certain way. However, the whole reason for doing this was that we were going to put forth a live performance, where we had only one (per performance) chance to play it as close to as directed.

However, what I'm proposing is slightly different. Think of it as instead of a theatrical performance, it's a movie, where people can do as many takes as necessary and you can actually do each take slightly different and the director can put it together differently later. (Or even worse, alter your performance with CG! heh) In this way, you could perform once and screw up, and then submit a better performance (or partial performance) later. It would be a continual iterative process, and thus the Open Source analogy.

I think we sort of already do this though, especially with those boy bands who can't sing; they get auto-tuned until it sounds in tune. You can get better music with less skill. As awful as that sounds... 8) Maybe it's better to say that we can extend the skills of even the best of us and allow people to choose.

By the way, in terms of remote conducting, they did already try this with a Russian conductor in Vancouver conducting an orchestra in Moscow Red Square in real-time during the closing ceremony of the Vancouver Olympics. http://mariinsky.rt.com/news/gergiev-orchestra.html I don't think it worked out just 'okay' but it would be interesting to explore how technology can continue to influence something like classical music.

Anyways, thanks for the discussion from everyone. This has been very fascinating.

In the intro to his show he says he's been held for 500 days without charge.

We have seen this news since about 2002. Every six months or so, a parade of neoconservatives who have failed at foreign policy (Ledeen, Wolfowitz, Bolton, Podhoretz, etc) shows up at the right-wing talk shows with breaking news that Israel is going to launch a strike against Iran "within 60 days". No joke, this is as regular as Autumn follows Summer.

Let's see here... the US and Israel started cyber warfare with Iran, attacking their SCADA systems and causing catastrophic damage to their centrifuges.
We've assassinated several of their nuclear scientists who have done absolutely nothing wrong in numerous car bombs.
We've flown our drone aircraft into their airspace to spy on them, and have the audacity to ask for it back after they take control over it, land it and reverse engineer it. Israel has already said from the beginning of this year that they planned on attacking between May and August of this year. There is zero negotiations, Obama only cares about the timing to only make him look better. In fact, he's purposefully put some of our troops INTO Israel to ensure our involvement if anyone decides to strike and put them at risk. Feel free to Google any of this stuff yourself.

Meanwhile, we're going to be in Afghanistan at minimum until 2024. We've still got troops in Iraq, on top of one of one of the largest embassies in the world that is about as big as the Vatican, where we are setting up our banks and westernizing their country to our profitable benefits and control of natural resources.

Iran is never going to be a threat to us. I don't give a fuck if Iran has 1 nuke or 20. Pakistan on the other hand has a stockpile of nukes, and where's the hysterics over that? They only harbored Bin Laden... The only thing I can possibly hope for is a president that will pull out of the middle east and Israel get nuked by every country in the Middle East if they show aggression. You won't get that from Obama, and you certainly won't get that from Romney.

It wasn't in drydock yet, it was still pier side. I'm pretty sure that means there were no hull cuts yet. http://rt.com/usa/news/uss-miami-submarine-fire-064/

Actually, Americans leaving US in record numbers

From the sound of it, it was just 10-15 students they all accused of the same thing

I haven't seen a report saying that they are students. But, regardless, how do we actually know they are innocent? There have been numerous targeted bombings and assassinations of Iranian scientists and academics. Some organised "terrorist" group has murdered these people, and others have supplied that group with information, weapons, money, safehouses etc. If this were happening in the U.S. - if American scientists and academics were being murdered by a foreign terrorist group - then Americans would be demanding justice, including assasinations and detention without trial. Maybe this man is innocent, but this dirty war is not. There are spies operating in Iran, and they will obviously claim that they are innocent if they get caught.

Zahiri's accusation is contact with Mojahedin-e Khalgh Organization (completely unrelated to the Mossad).

Mossad Caught Running MEK Assassinations of Iranian Scientists
Mossad hit-squads behind Iran scientists' murders - US official
Israel teams with terror group to kill Iran's nuclear scientists, U.S. officials tell NBC News

It doesn't help the "we're innocent" argument when U.S. officials have openly called for MEK to not be classified as a terrorist group, and the U.S. military has allegedly provided MEK with material assistance and special forces training.

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Seeing how the Syrian uprising and violence attributed to the military is actually is a CIA/Blackwater/Mossad driven coup, I have a hard time believing that this was the Syrian government. Even if it was, they are likely trying to flush out that element.

>>>you're just BS-ing

It's a shame you prefer to remain ignorant and live in the matrix, rather than read news sites and keep up to date. HERE take a Red Pill:

http://publicintelligence.net/fbi-suspicious-activity-reporting-flyers/
http://rt.com/news/fbi-terrorists-guide-security-171/ http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/constitutional_terrorists.htm
http://welfarestate.com/pamphlet/

Terrorists include those who:
-Defend the constitution
-Attempt to tape the police
-Lone individuals
-Non-lone individuals (members of groups)
-Rightists
-Leftists
-Pay in cash
-Deposting more than $5000 in a bank account ("Know Your Customer" regulation requires banks report it)
-Attempt to hide passwords
-Nervous
-Take pictures
-Stare

You seriously haven't heard of that? Assuming you're not a troll:

http://rt.com/news/fbi-terrorists-guide-security-171/
http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/constitutional_terrorists.htm
http://welfarestate.com/pamphlet/

Terrorists include those who:
-Defend the constitution
-Attempt to police the police (taping the police?)
-Lone individuals
-Non-lone individuals (members of groups)
-Rightists
-Leftists
-Pay in cash
-Attempt to hide passwords
-Nervous
-Take pictures
-Stare

This basically just confirms what has been the philosophy of the FBI for a long time (since its founding), including harassment of MLK and the civil rights movement.

Here's an interview where a band told people NOT to bu their CDs, because they get nothing out of such sales. Instead they ask their fans to acquire their music through the net (torrent), and to support them through concert sales.

Band tells fans not to buy CDs from dishonest label (2nd half of vid) - http://on.rt.com/ekn2z6

Not all high tech is in the field of electronics.
And material? They got a superconcrete who renders bunker busters useless
UHPC

to my knowledge this covers flights to/from the us and flights through us airspace.

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2759167&cid=39538673

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17764365

http://rt.com/news/eu-us-data-deal-491/

Not just those going to/from USA...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17764365
http://rt.com/news/eu-us-data-deal-491/

unless these two sites have published false information, you're just fear mongering.

do you have links to backup what you wrote?

unless you're referring to this http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/04/01/0020259/dhs-will-now-vet-uk-air-passengers-to-mexico-canada-cuba

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2759167&cid=39538673

but then still, you should not make blanket statements like this. that's just fear mongering.

to summarize: as far as i can tell this pnr agreement covers flights to/from the us and flights through us airspace.

solution is simple: just avoid the us like a pariah.

ps: i am referring to this definition of pariah - one that is despised or rejected.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17764365

The agreement applies to airlines operating flights between any of the 27 EU countries and the US.

It covers not only European airlines but also any carriers that are "incorporated or storing data" in the EU and operating flights to or from the US.

http://rt.com/news/eu-us-data-deal-491/

The agreement applies to airlines that operate flights between EU countries and the US.

The list of airlines covered by the new legislation extends beyond European carriers to include any carriers that are "incorporated or storing data" in the EU and operating flights to or from the US.

Do you ever watch RT ( http://rt.com/ ) ? [The russian CNN/BBC/Al Jazeera]

RTamerica has more about WHY they did this. The reasons ALMOT make sense..... if you want children to grow-up with no ability to deal with stressful words/ideas.

"Dinosaurs were thrown out, for example, as they call to mind evolution, which might upset fundamentalists. Birthdays shouldnâ(TM)t be mentioned because they arenâ(TM)t celebrated by Jehovahâ(TM)s Witnesses. Halloween appeared on the black list as it suggests paganism. Dancing is taboo, because some sects object..... Terrorism was considered too scary. Poverty is on the forbidden list as well as words that suggest wealth because they could make kids jealous. Divorces, as well as diseases, are also set to be forbidden in order to not traumatize kids having relatives who split from spouses or are ill.

"Officials say they are simply trying to avoid topics that "could evoke unpleasant emotions in the students.' " - http://rt.com/usa/news/school-test-list-ban-656/

Yes but changing your mind is a slow process, not something that happens in less than a year. Or worse: State one position, switch to position two, and then go back to the first position again. That's just saying whatever you think the voters want to hear to win votes. Or worse: Indecisive.

"Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me for being a stupid fuck." -- ______ (anyone stupid enough to vote for Warloving Obama or Romney)

Russia is Public Enemy # 1 - Romney
http://rt.com/news/romney-russia-enemy-obama-532/

finish his thought. The RT article is clearer: "The camera can search a staggering 36 million faces in less than a second for a match of the thumbnail photo." - http://www.rt.com/news/security-camera-hitachi-million-365/

This too is worth reading "FBI would like to follow you on Facebook and Twitter": http://www.rt.com/news/fbi-social-networks-privacy-781/

finish his thought. The RT article is clearer: "The camera can search a staggering 36 million faces in less than a second for a match of the thumbnail photo." - http://www.rt.com/news/security-camera-hitachi-million-365/

This too is worth reading "FBI would like to follow you on Facebook and Twitter": http://www.rt.com/news/fbi-social-networks-privacy-781/

Considering the British tourists who on arrival were detailed in a cell for 16 hours, and then put on a plane back home, experienced all of this because of a couple of tweets they made that somehow came to the attention of the DHS, I wouldn't want to make it any easier for these fucks to stumble across such things.

http://rt.com/usa/news/joke-marilyn-bryan-monroe-197/

Detained like terrorists because he tweeted about digging up Marilyn Monroe's corpse, and was going to "destroy America". Even after explaining that destroy was not meant literally, it being slang for getting pissed, it was presumably assumed that his intention to exhume Ms Monroe was genuine and that deportation was the only way to safeguard her bones. Fuckers - why does Congress even need these stories from us. Just read the news! This is just one of many very public stories that suggest the DHS/TSA is an out of control wannabe state secret police. How can we possibly trust these fucks to safeguard the nation if they can't differentiate between harmless tourists and terrorists. For that matter, how many terrorists have they caught during their Airport security theatrics? Fuck all. Their main contribution has been in making a trip to America seem like stepping back in to the Soviet fucking Union, complete with its humorless asshat fuck heads wasting their time fucking up the holidays and journeys of obviously innocent people. Who's minding the shop while they're fucking around with tourists? Does the DHS really have enough manpower to afford to have agents wasting time on such stupidity - if so, trim that fucking budget and cull the DHS from to bottom.

Pretty sure most people know of this, but just in case...

http://rt.com/usa/news/joke-marilyn-bryan-monroe-197/

Detained like fucking terrorists or drug dealers, all for making jokey Twitter posts that any normal person would, particularly after interviewing these tourists, realise were jokes. When asked about my plans for my stay in the US, if I answer "to have a smashing time", will I be dragged away on suspicion that I'll be going on a vandalism spree?

Will the British Government be filing a protest over this shoddy treatment? Not fucking likely.

The European Union isn't any better when it comes to censoring books or the teachers. See my sig: Sexy European teacher Boycotted by upset parents - http://on.rt.com/icha8v

If she had been fired for being black/fat/gay/religious there would have been lawsuits galore, but because she was fired for being attractive it's legal?

Yep, world's coming to an end.

... standard time was abolished last year. Really.

Get real, it is simply a Russian for profit multilingual tabloid, without ties to major US corporations, hence has no qualms about sticking it to US corporations. Of course they do tread lightly in Russian politics.

Off uniquely Russian political stance, you either sought power through wealth or through politics but not through both, to do both invites a more aggressive permanent solution to your excessive ego. In the interim http://rt.com/business/news/russia-privatization-1990-legitimacy-915/.

So is RT better or worse than US mass media, truth is, it is far better and nothing to do with politics, simply lacking ties to many multinational corporations it can stick it too them. I expect it will eventually be bought out and tow the psychopath corporate line.

I don't know rt.com, but it seems to tend toward the sensationalistic side.

For example, my 1 minute of browsing the site took me to the story "FBI might shutdown the internet on March 8", ( http://rt.com/usa/news/fbi-internet-server-servers-409/)

Maybe we should all be more worried about the internet disappearing than Monsanto's evil deeds.

I have already seen those and no script marked then as untrusted including the advertisers they use, and blocked their cookies. Cato of course is a right wing stink tank not a journalism site and NLPC,well, you can practically feel the oil oozing from that site. Of course there are tens of thousands of choices so why not try http://www.aljazeera.com/ or http://rt.com/.

Well, you could always try RT:

http://rt.com/search/?q=Soyuz&filter=news

(for those who don't get the joke -- RT is Russia Today, an English language news program which tends to bash the U.S. in general, and be borderline Russian propoganda. ... and right now, they don't have anything on this incident, but they'd probably have an interesting spin if/when they put it up.)

Of course, anyone who really cared about other coverage can just put 'Soyuz' into Google News:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=Soyuz

Unless you're boycotting Google, and then you can just go to space.com:

http://www.space.com/14381-russian-soyuz-spacecraft-cracks-march-launch.html

Ooops wrong link.
Correct link - http://rt.com/programs/capital-account/

I'm not an economics person but there are plenty of people who do (like Ph.D. Walter E Williams and Thomas Sowell), and they are warning us of the current danger.

Or you could just look at Iceland, Greece and Italy. The U.S. has almost the same debt-to-GDP load they have. We are not immune to the same collapse as they did.

Already China and Russia are abandoning the dollar in order to trade directly with gold (or gold-backed SDRs). It's time to wake up. http://rt.com/programs/keiser-report/

The "mainstream media" in question is RT, the Kremlin-funded TV. I kid you not.

better reporting than any of the american cable 'news' channels. Go watch RT America.

www.rt.com/usa

Anonymous Threatens to Take Down Facebook in Operation Global Blackout! Woohoo! :-) Now that's entertainment!

I was going off of what some people said at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3486268 It was stated that it is in the indictment, but I am unable to view it because the justice departments website is currently down probably due to anonymous.

http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/

If you could churn out houses for 5c, they would have to knock other houses down to destroy the supply.

Here's the problem. The price of anything is a function of supply and demand. If there is too much supply the price falls. If there is too much demand the price rises, and vice versa.

If all the demand for housing is ever met by the supply, the price of a house would fall to effectively nothing. This causes a problem with capitalism because the money to buy the houses, is borrowed into existence. Your neighbour bought his house, 5 years ago for 500,000 and now houses are worth zero. He has a half million dollar debt to pay on something now worth zero. The bank has lent money into existence on something worth nothing.

So. What do you do? You make damned sure that demand for housing (any product) is never met. Think about that for a second. Put another way, you make sure that there are not enough homes for people. That homelessness exists. Houses must be scarce to have value. They will literally bulldoze houses to make sure that remains true. [1][2]

You guarantee that homelessness and poverty exist because if they didn't, the banks wouldn't have anyone to lend money to and without money being loaned into existence, the economy would by definition, decline, not grow. "The economy" being the growth in credit.

You want to know why after 2000 years and the vast progress we have made in every other endeavour there is still poverty, still homelessness? The answer is, it's the nature of how money is created.

We rely on moneylenders to create our money for us. Isn't that the dumbest thing you've ever heard?

[1] http://rt.com/usa/news/bulldozing-america-bank-america/
[2] http://www.newser.com/story/124793/why-banks-are-knocking-down-foreclosed-homes.html

I've heard good things about RT too.

According to the results of a survey just released by the US Travel Association, two-out-of-five travelers this season are saying they’re trying to skip the plane and those pesky lines and checkpoints in lieu of other methods of transportation. It might not seem like a substantial number, but the association’s CEO, Roger Dow, tells US News & World Report, "Our research shows that reducing hassle without compromising security will encourage more Americans to fly — as many as two to three additional trips a year — leading to an additional $85 billion in spending that would support 900,000 American jobs."

And yet he produced no evidence of these atrocities.

Really?

Wow. You must get your information from completely different places than I do.

"While this week marks the one-year anniversary since the US formally ended military operations in Iraq, a diplomatic cable exposed by WikiLeaks unearths a gruesome incident in which Americans handcuffed and executed children during a 2006 raid.

An uncensored diplomatic cable released through WikIleaks last week shows that not only did US troops brutally execute 11 Iraqis during an incident in March of 2006, but they then ordered in an airstrike to destroy the evidence of their wrongdoing."

"The cable shows that the UN official was able to receive information from the autopsy of those killed, which revealed that each person in the house during the raid was handcuffed and shot in the head, including five children under the age of 5 years old and four women, one in her 70s."

http://rt.com/usa/news/wikileaks-iraq-children-killed/

The President has said he'll veto it; write to him and hold him to it!

I think the Americans and the ACLU are being hoodwinked.

If you believe Senator Cal Levin in his speech on the senate floor it was the Obama Administration that requested that the sections from the Bill that protected US citizens be removed.

Here is the Video Clip of Senator Levin's Speech where he says just that:
http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-detention-defense-levin-635/

Or read Senator Levin official Gov page about the speech:
http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/speeches/speech/senate-floor-speech-on-the-detainee-provision-in-the-defense-authorization-bill/

The Obama Administration has no problem with what they themselves requested it be removed!, The Obama Administration is objecting to (threatening a veto over) another section of the bill, section 1032 (see above link).

It is all over the web, just search:

obama levin section 1031 1032

Crazy stuff.

http://rt.com/news/yakutian-hachiko-stray-dog-429/

I suspect that isn't the only overwrought element here. In my, admittedly limited, search I have yet to find reputable sources confirming any but the barest of details in this story; let alone "Kill Half Humanity" (Wikipedia's already infected, care of rt.com.)

The Canadian Press, which brings us the Winnipeg Free Press article, fails to provide anything real to back up its statements. I can't really follow it any more than looking up the organizations provided and looking for related news postings (of which I found none.) Subsequent searching leads me to a Gizmodo article (links provided for those who wish to follow my searches.) Of it, there are two meaningful citations (that is, not links to the about pages of the source in question.) Science Insider and a pdf announcement detailing the schedule of the September influenza conference in Malta, in which this announcement is quoted as having been made.

The first thing I noticed within the pdf (aside from the garish design) is the absence of any announcement on GM influenza, (or Ron Fouchier, or his organization.) Admittedly, this hardly means this didn't occur; merely that this (what is essentially a flier) is not a meaningful source of information.

As for the Science Insider, it provides few additional details, mostly regarding vaguely related discussions on the classification/pre-approval of these sorts of studies. The closest thing it provides to something interesting is a (Dutch language) greenlight for what is supposed to be Ron's project.

Indeed, the Dutch link does concern GM influenza, and is an answer to a question on procedure for studying this sort of thing (of which they already apparently had a license to do.) It does not corroborate any of the stand out details of this article (how could it, considering it's from 2007.) Of minor note, there is no mention of ferrets; only standard embryonated [sic. Google Translation] chicken eggs.

Color me skeptical, to say the least.

"... less than a week after a United Nations agency warned that Iran was secretly working to develop a nuclear weapon..."

That is not what the UN warned or reported. The headline is repeating western propaganda. Read this, this, this, or this.

well, he also owns a computer, this is almost a 100% indication that he is a pedophile-terrorist, or a pedo-rist.

This is what government is for - making sure that the right people are always punished for their transgressions. That's why Jon Corzine is in charge normally, of some government and/or economic function somehow and disgusting people like Ron Paul are blacked out by the media because they challenge the status-quo.

Also USA is sending troops to Australia. You know, in case pro-Chinese Kangaroos join Al-Qaeda.

The administration, which is attempting to overturn a lower court ruling that threw out a drug dealer’s conviction over the warrantless use of a tracker, argues that citizens have no expectation of privacy when it comes to their movements in public so officers don’t need to get a warrant to use such devices.

The irony, of course, is how bent out of shape public servants get when you turn the tables and record them.

In depth, and by the Pacifica Radio Network.

http://rt.com/usa/news/occupy-wall-street-spreads-505/

http://www.pacifica.org/

http://www.kpfa.org/

And also I found, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Project-Censored/151690209993

I really don't see that this is any real revelation, It's NOT a free country (unless you're very, very rich) and it's NOT "By the people for the people", it's by the money for the money!

Actually, earthquakes could be, too.

Here's another one: Woman has to pay $1,122 medical bill after being forced to undergo a cavity search by police who allegedly acted "on credible information from a reliable source". Makes me wonder what's next on the agenda for the United Slaves of America...

You are mistaken, plenty of people vote for somebody that I would vote for.

Let's be real the stories we've been getting about the event are obviously suspicious.

http://rt.com/news/osama-dead-raid/

Seems more likely to me. "Hey look! We got Bin Laden!" Now don't pay attention to the massive decline of the American dollar.

Don't their databases have files on people? People like us?
Do you want Julian Assange reading your FBI file? Who the hell knows whats in it, we don't even know but if we find out do we want it to be through a leak or some other more private process? Corporations also have information about us, did the Sony customer information being compromised not prove this to you?

Also Assange just stole his idea from Cryptomes John Young who said the Internet is a spy machine. This isn't even his quote but he's receiving credit because he's Julian Assange.
http://rt.com/news/cryptome-classified-secret-wikileaks/

Yes http://www.ustream.tv/channel/yokosonews or http://rt.com/on-air/

There are alternative sources if one looks. Some material may be objectionable, viewer discretion is advised.

Besides the U.S. commercial and cable broadcasters, there is news service on PBS stations with some streaming and podcasts available from http://www.pbs.org./ Many PBS and other public stations also carry the BBC which has much available on the web too.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

A great many international newscasts are carried by the non-profit public satellite broadcaster MHz on their WorldView channel. (They have a number of other international channels also)

This guide is easier to browse than the one on their website:
http://proweb.myersinfosys.com/day.php?timezone=0&station=world&channel=MHz+Worldview&airdate=

They have free news and paid programs on-demand streamed through ROKU
mhznetworks.org/roku

Many of the news sources they carry have websites with some content available, here are some:

http://www.dw-world.de/ (Deutsche Welle from Germany)
http://www.euronews.net/
http://www.france24.com/en/
http://www.rt.com/ (Russia Today)
http://www.aljazeera.net/english
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=AlJazeeraEnglish#g/u
http://www.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/ (NHK Newsline)
http://www.youtube.com/taiwanmactv

Not sure where a country is? Here's a good but simple map.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/CIA_WorldFactBook-Political_world.svg

More info and a list of stations carrying WorldView:
http://www.mhznetworks.org/mhzworldview/

Sometimes a station has them on a secondary digital channel (Like KCET 28.4 Los Angeles) that isn't on cable. Ask your cable operator to add it if they're not carrying the feed.