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Right on the number, wrong on the "not all of them recoverable". That number is the "proven reserves" of coal.

I gave the total recoverable number simply to give some perspective on the IPCC prediction of 1000 ppm under their high emission scenario. That prediction requires extrapolating 20th century carbon emission growth until 2100, which is economically utterly implausible, no matter how many additional reserves we discover.

"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future," according to Niels Bohr.

However, they don't label this a prediction, they label this as "here is the high emissions scenario." The question "what happens if current trends continue" seems like a reasonable thing to ask. If I were looking for something to call their prediction, I'd look at the middle of their many scenarios, not the most extreme one.

But, by the way, why should "current trends continue" be "economically utterly implausible"? It's not economically implausible now, why does it suddenly switch to being implausible?

Bottom line, however, is that the comment subject is accurate: "Runaway effect? Nope" is right on the mark. "Slow but real increase in temperature over a time scale of a century" is more like it

No, the bottom line is that people keep misrepresenting IPCC predictions as being "established science", when they are a mix of a core of "basic science", and (I quote you) "feedback loops that are much more complex and less understood",

As you pointed out very clearly in your previous post, the current IPCC best estimate of climate sensitivity, 3 plus or minus 1.5 degrees per doubling, is pretty much identical to the one-dimensional constant-humidity model of Manabe and Wetherald. The only "feedback loop" is the assumption of constant humidity, which I don't think is particularly "complex and less understood."

predictions about poorly understood "effects of government action", and economic forecasts that assume that by 2100 we extract and burn the equivalent of all known fossil fuel reserves.

There needs to be a name for this logical fallacy; it's similar to strawman, but not quite identical. Basically, you took a whole array of different scenarios put forth by IPCC to look at the effect of all sorts of different possible things that could happen, you took the most extreme one, and you say "look at their prediction! It is absurd!". That wasn't their "prediction". That was their analysis "here is the result if this one particular scenario takes place."

On top of that misrepresentation comes even more fear mongering by famous scientists warning of runaway greenhouse effects (examples of which I quoted).

The one famous scientist you quoted was Stephen Hawking. He's not a climate scientist. He has said all sorts of silly things, among them that we should be afraid of aliens, AI, robots and nuclear war. What Stephen Hawking is afraid of is not really terribly relevant to climate science; if you want to know about climate, I'd listen to climate scientists.

The "slow but real increase" that you refer to and that basic physics tells us about is of sufficiently small magnitude not to warrant concern or intervention

That's a judgement call. I don't even disagree. I'm annoyed at people attacking the science beca

Seems like Twitter sold us out too: https://www.rt.com/news/407919-twitter-multi-million-offer-rt/

Granted, that's the RT and they could be faking it, but it's probably still worth having Congress send a subpoena duces tecum to get all of Twitter's communication with RT to make sure.

the corruption that creates and sustains that shit.

If you and the rest of america weren't so uneducated and ignorant you could all choose a correct political ideology, aka it's not right wing. The more right wing your country, the more you tell the world you don't understand you're being fucked by private power.

Crisis of democracy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYFxtNgOeiI

Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. See the manufacturing consent videos when you get the time.

Science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

Wikileaks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABDiHspTJww&feature=youtu.be

Manufacturing consent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwU56Rv0OXM

https://vimeo.com/39566117

  Other important info

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/10/michael-hudson-on-parasitic-financial-capitalism.html

Michael Hudson

The real news

The Citibank memo

Citigroup memo

http://www.rdwolff.com/

Richard wolf on capitalism

US distribution of wealth

https://imgur.com/a/FShfb

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

  This is a project of american empire, aka the rich (big business) vs the rest of mankind.

The grand chessboard

The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives

Grand chessboard user review

Reddit and intelligence agencies

  Wikileaks -- Reddit and intelligence agencies

Rubbish.

As of 24 September 2017 (less than three weeks' ago):

"Ecuador will extend Assange's asylum over fears for his life - President Moreno"

https://www.rt.com/news/404374-ecuador-president-asylum-assange/

All news agencies of the world for months, all intelligence agencies of the US, the heads of the FBI, CIA, NSA,

Students, pay attention! Here we have a perfect example of successful brainwashing and power of propaganda.

The subject actually believes that all the "official" news agencies on the planet are in sync with the message of the propagandists, including those of his master's enemies and those which stand back attempting to maximize their gain by joining the winners.

It also demonstrates the success of the propagandist's strategy of making BIG BOLD LIES and tiny retractions.

Splendid!

For the next lesson, group A please follow me for "Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq" demonstration in room 207 and group B go to room 208 for the "Sinking of the USS Maine" and "Gulf of Tonkin incident" practice!

Pfft, most likely reason for ban, no US CIA/NSA back doors, maybe FSB ones but definately no US ones. Who is most likely to hack, the US government, they have an insane spy on everyone and control everyone policy. So paying for one, I would go with the Russian Kaspersky because they spend their time fending off the CIA/NSA rather than cooperating with them. Are Kaspersky innocent, not in US government eyes, they are guilty as hell for in all likelihood being unwilling to install CIA/NSA back doors, not that they would be asked with security letters to hide that criminal activity because that would be major news on https://www.rt.com/.

Reality is, any security product I see approved by the US government I will likely avoid and any they attack I will take a second look at. The US government are by far the biggest most untrustworthy liars on the planet. They think it is a laugh that they found no WMDs in Iraq, killed a million Iraqis and thousands of their own allied nations soldiers all for a for profit giggle, tee hee.

Also this weekend, an ISIS supporter in Edmonton, Canada ran over a police officer with a truck and then jumped out of the vehicle stabbing the officer with a knife after which he ran off and managed to injure four more bystanders. https://www.rt.com/news/405221...

Holy shit, are you following me around Slashdot and posting utter fucking idiocy in response to everything I comment on?

Russia hasn't invaded shit, your braindead tool. Years of pictures posted to social media from your literal neo-Nazi pals in Ukraine, but not a single photo from a U.S. satellite or drone showing Russian troops in Ukraine or invading Crimea.

Ok, how about an entirely fucking biased source: https://www.rt.com/news/crimea...

the latter of which had an existing agreement for a Russian naval base - does the U.S. Army "invade" Germany whenever troops are sent to one of the existing bases there?

Remind me, when did the US take over communications and Government buildings in Germany and annex the country? Nobody was complaining about Russia having a military presence in the country, when it was there by invitation and treaty. It's the subsequent illegal invasion that's the problem.

voted overwhelmingly to joint Russia

What, in the illegal referendum in which men with guns bullied people into not campaigning against joining Russia and reportedly intimidated people into not voting unless they were going to vote to join Russia?

Shit, that referendum has less credibility than an Irish referendum on the EU.

in no small part due to your literal neo-Nazi pals in Ukraine and their xenophobia.

I don't think I know anybody in Ukraine, and none of my friends are neo-Nazis.

But even if all your bullshit on Russia and Ukraine was completely true, it would still be more justified than any American "intervention" you can name, given the fact that the U.S. overthrew the elected government of Ukraine.

Wait? Whether the US overthrew the elected government of Ukraine or not, that in no way whatsoever justifies the illegal invasion and annexation of part of the country.

International law offers various remedies, but none of them include stealing a big chunk of someone else's country. You're fucking deluded. I can only assume you're sat in an office in St Petersburg getting paid to vomit up this biased bollocks.

Next you'll be telling me that Russian anti-air units didn't shoot down a civilian airliner over Ukraine.

Go back to gargling Cheney's balls, shitbag.

Charming. You're projecting again.

Dumbo: WikiLeaks reveals CIA system to take over webcams, microphones

Details of the CIA's Dumbo project, a system that manipulates devices such as webcams and microphones on Microsoft Windows-operating systems, have been published by WikiLeaks. The program also corrupts video recordings, according to the leaked documents.

The whistleblowing organization released the files as part of its Vault 7 series on the CIA's hacking capabilities.

The program has to be executed âoedirectly from a USB thumb drive,â according to a field guide for the system released by WikiLeaks on Thursday. The document indicates that the thumb drive has to be connected to the machine for Dumbo to work: âoeFor the log to be maintained, the thumb drive Dumbo is executed from must remain plugged into the system throughout the duration of the operation.â

It identifies installed devices such as webcams and microphones, locally or connected by wireless (Bluetooth, WiFi) or wired networks, and it can block all processes related to the devices, including recording and monitoring.

A user guide dated June 2015 sets out Dumbo's capacity to mute microphones, disable all network adapters, and suspend camera recording. The program notifies its operator of any files to which those processes were actively writing so that they may be selectively corrupted or deleted.

Dumbo is run by the field agent directly from an USB stick; it requires administrator privileges to perform its task. It supports 32bit Windows XP, Windows Vista, and newer versions of Windows operating system. 64bit Windows XP, or Windows versions prior to XP are not supported.

I think he have a daughter but I highly doubt she would like to follow him so probably his next best hunchback will be the anointed.

I don't see his daughter as being in the game either.
He just answered that question in a Q&A session. He answered that people want leaders to choose a successor, but in the end, it's up to the people.
https://www.usnews.com/news/wo...
“the successor to the president is determined only by the Russian people in the course of democratic elections, and no one else.”
https://www.rt.com/politics/39...
It's revealing to compare the two reports of the same event.

The NYPD's stats show that white people who get frisked are more likely to have something. The discrimination does not reflect reality.

... which is itself based on the observation that black people are more likely to carry illegal items.

Do they really base it off evidence? Because the numbers show that NYPD should have frisked relatively more whites than they did.

"Specifically, the New York Police Department uncovered a weapon in one out of every 49 stops of white New Yorkers, while for Latinos a weapon was found for every 71 stops, and for African Americans that number was 93 stops." RT

FYI - https://www.rt.com/usa/354657-...

The presentation-slides you can find here:
https://www.blackhat.com/docs/...

Sounds like a cheap version of the wealth-sharing program that awful Gaddafi allowed Libyans to benefit from:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/l...

Here's what got him killed (thanks to central bankers):
https://www.rt.com/news/econom...

Lol. Have you been to Beijing ? When you can't see the building across the street?

The smoggiest days I can recall in the US have never even compared.

If people don't know, in Beijing, nearly everyone (who can afford it) buys a HEPA air purifiers for their flats and businesses, and often people walk around wearing N95 or N99 filter masks. It's not just hyperbole, it's really that bad on an ongoing basis. Most of the effect comes from the coal plants to the south and dust storms from Inner Mongolia.

However, even the measures they have taken to reduce the dependence on coal have some minor secondary side effects. The switch to more natural gas heating has increased the humidity near the ground favoring more ground smog. The wind farms in the north slightly reducing the average windspeed of the Siberian winds near Beijing that historically helped clear out the smog. The measures are helping, but the progress is glacial.

Here's a recent news article describing a recent "beyond-index" smog+dust conditions that happen with alarming frequency in Beijing. Yikes...

By Thursday afternoon, the city's air quality index (AQI) jumped from under 100 to 621 – from "moderate" to "beyond index." It went down slightly in the evening, but remained at "beyond index" levels. Beijing government data showed that the average readings of PM2.5 – the smallest and most harmful particles in the air – had risen to 684 micrograms per cubic meter in parts of the city by Thursday afternoon – more than 27 times the World Health Organization’s (WHO) recommended exposure level over 24 hours.

What's with all the Russophobia?

Common sense?

Do the Russians blow up little girls at concerts?

I certainly don't doubt that Putin would do so. The most you can say is that he won't see it as to his advantage.

Or perhaps they call for the murder of gays/lesbians?

They actually murder them

Do they advocate stoning women who don't wear tents in public?

No, they advocate throwing their enemies in the gulag.

And no, they aren't exactly good on attire, no.

Did their Prophet call for enslavement, rape, and murder of the Christians/Jews?

Russians aren't big on religious tolerance either, no.

I get it, you probably have the Russians precisely because they fight the radical Islamic terrorists. How fucking sick.

Oh so, they fight the Radical Islamic terrorists, so nothing they do can be wrong, is that it?

Maybe it's just like WW2, when Stalin and Hitler were BOTH MURDEROUS TYRANNICAL DESPOTS.

And since the Islamic terrorists don't have a tenth of Hitler's war machine, I see no reason to buddy up to Putin.

I will not give him a favorable reference in the House of Commons, the House of Representatives, or in the House of Saud.

That's cute, but have you heard about Russian propaganda about the US?

No, I haven't. What I have seen is a good deal of truthful facts and opinion about the US government and its policies. Some of it comes from Russia, some from Europe, some from the UK, Australia and Canada - and quite a lot of it comes from the USA itself.

Read the following (or as much of it as you can absorb) and see if what you learn is a little different from what the mainstream media are telling their audiences day after day.

http://russia-insider.com/en/o...
http://russia-insider.com/en/p...
http://www.strategic-culture.o...
http://www.paulcraigroberts.or...
http://awdnews.com/top-news/ru...
https://www.rt.com/news/387798...
http://michael-hudson.com/2017...
http://russia-insider.com/en/p...
http://kunstler.com/clusterfuc...
https://thearchdruidreport.blo...
https://irrussianality.wordpre...
http://johnhelmer.net/malaysia...
https://irrussianality.wordpre...

TPFTDL: $52.06 billion in 2013, according to an imperfectly legitimate Edward Snowden release of government information.

Years removed from the lessons of Iran/Contra, governments have learned to just fund the cloak & dagger bunch... saves on eventual, inevitable, embarassment as you're employing folks who have proven eager to scam the funds they need clandestinely.

Now reading from RT https://www.rt.com/news/383807.... The US managed to kill 2 civilians, three soldiers and injure seven others (so obviously the Syrians were fully aware of the attack and it looks like one of the missiles went a little astray), with a claim of 59 tomahawk cruise missiles fired, with an approximate cost of $1.59 million each https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..., excluding firing costs, for a total cost of $93.81 million, excluding firing costs, operation of vessels and crew, which could really blow that figure out, likely double. So who was punishing whom for what is looking like a false flag gas attack (did the US government just roundly punish US taxpayers), although people really did die but it is looking like they were kidnap victims from pro-Syrian government villages who were murdered. So all in all, just what the fuck is going on, this is looking all sorts of crazy. A profitable day for Raytheon McDonald Douglas but it makes the US look like a pack of idiots. So panic of the Obama spying on Trump disclosures, the Clintons are feeling prosecutorial heat, Trump has been set up for impeachment with an attack upon another country without Congressional or US approval or Raytheon McDonald Douglas, were bitching because profits for this quarter are a little low and demanded expenditure. Make no mistake, the attack was clearly rushed because the false flag story was falling apart and now the evidence will expose Uncle Toms Obama's Syrian rape brigades as the actual culprits and Trump will be blamed for acting with congressional approval, what a stupid debacle. It seems very much like the US spent more money than the damage they caused, especially when the US government values foreign people with brown skins at $2,500 per https://www.theguardian.com/wo....

The goal wasn't to kill people, it was to make it harder for Syria to undertake attacks like this in the future. So you take out hangars, fuel depots, aircraft, and runways. And when you are hitting an airfield, you don't just hit it once and call it a day. You have to put multiple craters on every runway as well as damage ramp areas and support facilities. One crater on a runway can be prepared pretty quickly. You put holes all along every runway and you knock that base out for weeks at least.

It looks like 59 Tomahawks were used when 15 could do the job. Did the 35 ones go astray or fail to explode?

Now reading from RT https://www.rt.com/news/383807.... The US managed to kill 2 civilians, three soldiers and injure seven others (so obviously the Syrians were fully aware of the attack and it looks like one of the missiles went a little astray), with a claim of 59 tomahawk cruise missiles fired, with an approximate cost of $1.59 million each https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..., excluding firing costs, for a total cost of $93.81 million, excluding firing costs, operation of vessels and crew, which could really blow that figure out, likely double. So who was punishing whom for what is looking like a false flag gas attack (did the US government just roundly punish US taxpayers), although people really did die but it is looking like they were kidnap victims from pro-Syrian government villages who were murdered. So all in all, just what the fuck is going on, this is looking all sorts of crazy. A profitable day for Raytheon McDonald Douglas but it makes the US look like a pack of idiots. So panic of the Obama spying on Trump disclosures, the Clintons are feeling prosecutorial heat, Trump has been set up for impeachment with an attack upon another country without Congressional or US approval or Raytheon McDonald Douglas, were bitching because profits for this quarter are a little low and demanded expenditure. Make no mistake, the attack was clearly rushed because the false flag story was falling apart and now the evidence will expose Uncle Toms Obama's Syrian rape brigades as the actual culprits and Trump will be blamed for acting with congressional approval, what a stupid debacle. It seems very much like the US spent more money than the damage they caused, especially when the US government values foreign people with brown skins at $2,500 per https://www.theguardian.com/wo....

The goal wasn't to kill people, it was to make it harder for Syria to undertake attacks like this in the future. So you take out hangars, fuel depots, aircraft, and runways. And when you are hitting an airfield, you don't just hit it once and call it a day. You have to put multiple craters on every runway as well as damage ramp areas and support facilities. One crater on a runway can be prepared pretty quickly. You put holes all along every runway and you knock that base out for weeks at least.

Now reading from RT https://www.rt.com/news/383807.... The US managed to kill 2 civilians, three soldiers and injure seven others (so obviously the Syrians were fully aware of the attack and it looks like one of the missiles went a little astray), with a claim of 59 tomahawk cruise missiles fired, with an approximate cost of $1.59 million each https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..., excluding firing costs, for a total cost of $93.81 million, excluding firing costs, operation of vessels and crew, which could really blow that figure out, likely double. So who was punishing whom for what is looking like a false flag gas attack (did the US government just roundly punish US taxpayers), although people really did die but it is looking like they were kidnap victims from pro-Syrian government villages who were murdered. So all in all, just what the fuck is going on, this is looking all sorts of crazy. A profitable day for Raytheon McDonald Douglas but it makes the US look like a pack of idiots. So panic of the Obama spying on Trump disclosures, the Clintons are feeling prosecutorial heat, Trump has been set up for impeachment with an attack upon another country without Congressional or US approval or Raytheon McDonald Douglas, were bitching because profits for this quarter are a little low and demanded expenditure. Make no mistake, the attack was clearly rushed because the false flag story was falling apart and now the evidence will expose Uncle Toms Obama's Syrian rape brigades as the actual culprits and Trump will be blamed for acting with congressional approval, what a stupid debacle. It seems very much like the US spent more money than the damage they caused, especially when the US government values foreign people with brown skins at $2,500 per https://www.theguardian.com/wo....

Really getting tired of those supporting right wing causes lying out their asses.

Trust in the press in "most of the west" is not at the levels you suggest. Gallup and other independent agencies run polls regularly and have found the opposite:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/195...

http://www.journalism.org/2016...

https://www.americanpressinsti...

Only members of a single party severely distrust the media and only because they are commanded to distrust the media by their party. That doesn't mean the press is un-trustworthy or a liberal bias, just that the conservatives regularly attack the media for reporting on just about anything that disagrees with what they are saying and their followers agree with the distrust without any effort of critical thought or even benefit of the doubt. When a story that has absolutely no political slant and only presents facts can be labeled as "liberal", as has been the case more than a dozen times in the last two years, it's pretty obvious that the right are not fighting any form of political slant but reality itself.

It's a matter of a significant portion of the population putting their party before fact or country and are willing to lie to support their causes and nothing to do with their opponents conspiring against them.

I should also mention that a particular country in the news a lot as of late has regularly used it's news agencies and intelligence agencies to also spread distrust of the US media.

https://www.rt.com/usa/340124-...

Pravda still exists. It did not morph into RT.

https://www.pravda.ru/

RT was established in 2005. I don't see where their "stated goals" include disrupting the US or breaking up the EU.

https://www.rt.com/about-us

And even if those were their goals, how the hell would they go about accomplishing them? If RT can successfully "disrupt the U.S." simply by airing TV programs and publishing things on a web page, then the U.S. has some serious problems. Who knew it would be so "disruptive" to report news that the Western media refuse to cover and offer perspectives that don't otherwise get represented?

"The basic problem is that we have not realized that Internet's anonymity's lets people say anything they want to."

Where have you been? I'd say pretty much everyone else realized this a long time ago. When you live in a climate where people can be physically assaulted for speaking unpopular opinions, having a forum where people can say anything they want to is not a "problem" it's a solution.

posting as AC just because I can!

Because rampant pedophilia among those in power is a completely crazy idea, right? Oh wait, it seems to happen more often, than you'd care to admit

"So instead of repealing the law, how about extending to also apply to Google and Facebook?"

Not going to happen, I'll get to why in a moment... check out the links when you get the time. The brain doesn't see the world as it is, see the science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

This is former national security advisor of the united states Zbigniew Brezinski, worried about the political awakening of the masses, the rich and corporations fear the political awakening of the masses of the globe, so see what they really think behind closed doors here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZyJw_cHJY

On social media -- social media are connected to intelligence agencies... if you think you are going to get privacy it's all bs and optics for the masses.

Reddit and intelligence agencies

Wikileaks -- Reddit and intelligence agencies

These links will take a while to digest, but if you want to understand what's going on in the world, you owe it to yourself to become informed about the true state of the world.

"Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role."

Crisis of democracy

Crisis of democracy - PDF

http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-D... ">Crisis of democracy - BOOK

Education as ignorance

Education as ignorance

Overthrowing other peoples governments

Overthrowing other peoples governments, the master list

Wikileaks on TTIP/TPP/ETC

Wikileaks

Energy subsidies

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2015/NEW070215A.htm

Interference in other states when the rich/corporations dont get their way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxp_wgFWQo&feature=youtu.be&list=PLKR2GeygdHomOZeVKx3P0fqH58T3VghOj&t=724

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

http://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499/

Manufacturing consent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwU56Rv0OXM

https://vimeo.com/39566117

Manufacturing consent (book)

http://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499/

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

Democracy Inc

http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Incorporated-Managed- Inverted-Totalitarianism/dp/069114589X

From war is a racket:

"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil inter

Wait, are you saying Assange is a freedom fighter?

So why is he in bed with authoritarians like Putin, Farage, and has engaged in mutual praise with Trump? Even if you believe there's no official connection then Assange is a regular on Russia's state propaganda channel RT, has met up with Farage in the Ecuadorian embassy:

https://www.rt.com/tags/the-ju...

https://www.theguardian.com/co...

You have a funny definition of freedom if it means support and praise of people who back things like elimination of civil liberties, strict control of speech, elimination of equality, and convergence towards dictatorship.

Assange is the last person I'd want fighting for my freedom, because he doesn't believe in freedom, he believes in absolute rule by only those who he personally agrees with and is trying to support that using Wikileaks.

He's a regular spokesperson on Russia's state controlled and directed propaganda media outlet RT, and even had his own show on there for a while:

https://www.rt.com/tags/the-ju...

So yeah, by definition he's a Russian propagandist. It shouldn't really be much of a surprise that he'd also abuse Wikileaks to that end.

He's also been in touch with other Russian puppets like Le Penn and Farage, so whilst there's probably some truth in what you say about him not intentionally starting out this way, he's well and truly down the path of being a defacto FSB actor even if he's not explicitly employed by them.

It's not that there are more US leakers than Russian ones, it's that he's explicitly focussing on acquiring US leakers because his only target or interest is the US. There have been other big leaks outside of Wikileaks - the Panama papers, the Russia/Crimea e-mail leaks:

http://www.independent.co.uk/n...

But no one trusts these leaks to go through Wikileaks because Assange has gained such pro-Russian, anti-US tunnel vision that you'd be putting your life at risk trusting them. As such whether it was ever intentional or not, Wikileaks is no longer impartial, it's purely an anti-Western organisation for information warfare because no one leaking anything that chimes with the West view would dare trust an organisation headed by a man who is outright being paid by the Russians via RT.

So I think how we got here is long past mattering, the fact is that Assange IS a Russia funded anti-Western propagandist at this point, and his organisation has ended up as a whole one sided anti-Western information warfare tool. These things shouldn't be controversial to say, the evidence is there for all to see.

'CIA dilemma: Must hire millennials, very group that respects the Constitutionâ(TM)

It is the younger generation that understands new technology. But it is hard to weed out the people who will work without any respect for the Constitution or without any respect for privacy, says former CIA officer Ray McGovern.

The former head of the CIA Michael Hayden came up with an explanation for how thousands of secret documents ended up in the hands of WikiLeaks. The files were released this week, showing how the agency hacks smartphones and TVs. Michael Hayden says they may have been leaked by insiders, most likely young CIA recruits, from the generation known as millennials.

RT: Michael Hayden doubts whether millennials understand loyalty and secrecy. Why would he say that, do you think?

Ray McGovern: It is very painful to hear General Hayden say those things, because these millennials, or whoever it is that is leaking information, are loyal in a way that he has not been, to their only oath, the only oath we all take, and that is to support and defend the Constitution of the US against all enemies, foreign and domestic. In an unprecedented situation, two of General Haydenâ(TM)s predecessors as head of NSA said he did illegal things in wiretapping and monitoring Americans. That was Bobby Ray Inman, who was pretty much the creator of the NSA, and who worked on the laws that prohibit these things. He said, âoeI drafted the laws, I know what is in those laws, and it admits of no exceptions.â Bobby Ray Inman, after it was disclosed that General Hayden had done this at NSA said, âoeHe clearly violated the law.â One more recent predecessor as NSA director was an Army General named William Odom, and Odom when he heard about Hayden, almost couldnâ(TM)t control himself. He said, âoeHayden should be court-martialed since he still on active duty, and he should be removed from office and so should George Bush who ordered him to do that.â

Here we have this same character⦠General Hayden accusing leakers of disloyalty. That is like the pot calling the kettle black because if anyone is guilty of not abiding by his oath to defend the Constitution, it is General Hayden himself. I have a little bit of difficulty refraining from being angry.

RT: If other people in the agency agree with him, what should they do now? Just recruit older people?

RM: The problem is they are caught between a rock and a hard place. They need the young people. The young people know how to do this stuff. Thatâ(TM)s really important. It is really hard to weed out young people who will do this stuff without any respect for the Constitution or without any respect for privacy. To weed those out and only let old people like me, who donâ(TM)t know anything about how to tap into these things. They cannot do this without the young people. And by hiring young people, it is really hard to say âoethis person will violate the Constitution, but this person wonâ(TM)t.â

One of the interesting things here is that when we gave Edward Snowden the award for Integrity in Intelligence that was in June of 2013. In July, we were at a hacker conference outside of Amsterdam, and we noted that we wanted to give this prize to Edward Snowden, but we had no way of getting there because he was at Sheremetyevo Airport and nobody knew how to get to him. Guess what? Those millennials, those hackers passed the hat around and collected enough money for the four of us â" Colleen Rowley, Tom Drake, Jesselyn Radack and myself - all whistleblowers to go to Moscow and back, pay for our fares and a fairly decent hotel as well. That is how strong these people who know how to do this technology feel about the need for privacy to protect our Constitution.

RT: WikiLeaks says the file dump is just a small fraction of what they have on the CIA. What else do you expect to come out?

RM: I suppose they

Qz is just trying to white wash the situation.

'CIA dilemma: Must hire millennials, very group that respects the Constitutionâ(TM)

It is the younger generation that understands new technology. But it is hard to weed out the people who will work without any respect for the Constitution or without any respect for privacy, says former CIA officer Ray McGovern.

The former head of the CIA Michael Hayden came up with an explanation for how thousands of secret documents ended up in the hands of WikiLeaks. The files were released this week, showing how the agency hacks smartphones and TVs. Michael Hayden says they may have been leaked by insiders, most likely young CIA recruits, from the generation known as millennials.

RT: Michael Hayden doubts whether millennials understand loyalty and secrecy. Why would he say that, do you think?

Ray McGovern: It is very painful to hear General Hayden say those things, because these millennials, or whoever it is that is leaking information, are loyal in a way that he has not been, to their only oath, the only oath we all take, and that is to support and defend the Constitution of the US against all enemies, foreign and domestic. In an unprecedented situation, two of General Haydenâ(TM)s predecessors as head of NSA said he did illegal things in wiretapping and monitoring Americans. That was Bobby Ray Inman, who was pretty much the creator of the NSA, and who worked on the laws that prohibit these things. He said, âoeI drafted the laws, I know what is in those laws, and it admits of no exceptions.â Bobby Ray Inman, after it was disclosed that General Hayden had done this at NSA said, âoeHe clearly violated the law.â One more recent predecessor as NSA director was an Army General named William Odom, and Odom when he heard about Hayden, almost couldnâ(TM)t control himself. He said, âoeHayden should be court-martialed since he still on active duty, and he should be removed from office and so should George Bush who ordered him to do that.â

Here we have this same character⦠General Hayden accusing leakers of disloyalty. That is like the pot calling the kettle black because if anyone is guilty of not abiding by his oath to defend the Constitution, it is General Hayden himself. I have a little bit of difficulty refraining from being angry.

RT: If other people in the agency agree with him, what should they do now? Just recruit older people?

RM: The problem is they are caught between a rock and a hard place. They need the young people. The young people know how to do this stuff. Thatâ(TM)s really important. It is really hard to weed out young people who will do this stuff without any respect for the Constitution or without any respect for privacy. To weed those out and only let old people like me, who donâ(TM)t know anything about how to tap into these things. They cannot do this without the young people. And by hiring young people, it is really hard to say âoethis person will violate the Constitution, but this person wonâ(TM)t.â

One of the interesting things here is that when we gave Edward Snowden the award for Integrity in Intelligence that was in June of 2013. In July, we were at a hacker conference outside of Amsterdam, and we noted that we wanted to give this prize to Edward Snowden, but we had no way of getting there because he was at Sheremetyevo Airport and nobody knew how to get to him. Guess what? Those millennials, those hackers passed the hat around and collected enough money for the four of us â" Colleen Rowley, Tom Drake, Jesselyn Radack and myself - all whistleblowers to go to Moscow and back, pay for our fares and a fairly decent hotel as well. That is how strong these people who know how to do this technology feel about the need for privacy to protect our Constitution.

RT: WikiLeaks says the file dump is just a small fraction of what they have on the CIA. What else

LOL give me a break, you know the entire upper echelon of US/UK is run by pedophiles anyway.

WikiLeaks publishes 'entire hacking capacity of the CIA'
Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

WikiLeaks publishes 'entire hacking capacity of the CIA'
Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

WikiLeaks publishes 'entire hacking capacity of the CIA'

WikiLeaks publishes 'entire hacking capacity of the CIA'

WikiLeaks publishes 'entire hacking capacity of the CIA'

No, North Korea is extremely poor, has few natural resources, and can not feed its people.

North Korea's nuclear posture is an extortion racket, intended to increase foreign aid. It worked for quite a while - they got money in return for not developing nuclear weapons.

Unfortunately, some US administrations decided to act tough, and North Korea simply increased the threat in order to extract aid.

This is a very simplistic view of things, and doesn't even make sense. They are building nuclear weapons to gain more foreign aid? They aren't stupid, it is exceedingly easy to forsee that their nuclear program would have the opposite effect. They haven't exactly tried to keep their nuclear program a secret.

North Korea is effectively a buffer zone between the 2 most powerful military powers in the world. They know this, and the Korean War never actually ended, as any North Korean will tell you. The US conducts massive military exercises on their doorstep every Spring. "Defensive only", the USA says. "What's with the amphibious assault exercises then?", the DPRK responds. It doesn't help that various countries have tried to make Korea their colonial bitch going back 150 years. The west reinforces this fear with yearly exercises, military planning to assassinate the leader, invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, military action in Syria, Pakistan, etc. North Koreans have a very legitimate fear of foreign invasion or regime change.

The nuclear program is intended to ensure North Korea's survival. They are in a precarious position, an animal in a corner considering their geographical location and geopolitical status. North Koreans aren't stupid, and know they will lose a shooting war, nuclear weapons or not. But on the other hand, no nuclear state has ever been invaded by a foreign power. It's the sharpest tooth a nation can bare.

You do realise that the An-225 is an appallingly low tech aircraft, all it has going for it is its size.

What else do you need for a cargo plane other than the size — and the lift, which it also has aplenty? The long distance, maybe, and the ability to operate in various weather conditions? It has got all that too..

Loading. Efficiency. Safety. Noise.

Face it, if the An-225 hadn't already been build to satisfy the USSR's dickwaving contest over space, nobody would touch it.

And the Ukraine

There is no "the" in front of the country name. The Germany? The France?

The Sudan. The Philippines. The Netherlands. The Bahamas. The United States of America. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Face it, you might as well object to me sending a letter to the Prussian Consulate in Siam by way of Burma.

Yes, and that's why they are now reorienting towards the Saudis as I already mentioned. And the Chinese. In other words, both of the markets mentioned in the write-up.

Is that why they didn't actually build any planes last year?

Face it, if the United States of America can sell out to the Kleptocracy of Russia, so will the Ukraine.

Of course RT isnt going to burn my eyes but it's basically worthless as far as news goes unless you just want to find out what the Russian government wants people to think. Sure you can point to Snowden and other events that were poorly handled by US media but overall they are most certainly willing to question the government on quite a few issues.

I tried to find even one article on RT's site critical of their actions in Crimea. All I found was lies and misdirection like this https://www.rt.com/op-edge/268...

Meanwhile, go back a bit and search any major US news media's site for news on our invasion of Iraq. You'll find plenty of stories debunking bad evidence given by the Bush administration. Could they have done a better job pointing out how misguided that war was? Sure, but you cant say they never pointed out many of the lies we were fed in regards to why we should invade.

CNN is not nearly as bad as RT. I did a search on the RT news sight to see if I could find a single article questioning Russian annexation of Crimea after I posted the above. Not only could I not find one I read through a great piece on whether the Brits views on their actions in Ukraine are based on "misunderstanding or distortion"

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/268...

I've never read a piece on CNN as blatently full lies and misdirection. It's well written though, read it without your critical thinking cap on and it "makes sense". Then you realize that "that UN charter doesnt apply to that at all" and "those two things dont equal that at all".

Let's see how quickly the Trumpanzees can blame this on Obama somehow, or call it all fake news :)

Not fake news, but it's certainly non-techie news.

Will we get an article about the Russian pranksters who pranked US Congresswoman Maxine Waters posing as the Ukrainian PM now?

That's not techie news either...

I suppose there are times when that's true. For instance, limiting the work-week to 40 hours, and after that time-and-a-half. You may prefer a 50 hour week or a 30 hour week.

It can be way more fundamental than that. Sometimes it can be even be an ethical disagreement over some issue.

But, long story short, I view that loss of freedom as similar to the loss of freedom living in a society. You miss out on some autonomy, but in return you get a range of benefits that should more than compensate you. And a voice (via elections) in what those benefits are. While occasionally you'll be screwed some, it's hard to imagine how a system could work that didn't do that to anyone, ever.

I'm fairly pragmatic about that, and I agree with you that sometimes you trade some fundamental rights by living in a society. But the system of that society is pretty important. The United States is currently polling as 70% Christian. If we straight off voted via an election to make that the official religion of the country and started enforcing certain beliefs over the remaining 30%, that would be a bad system of government. Instead we have a system that says that no matter what the majority of people believe in, individually everybody has the right to believe or not believe in whatever they wish, and that right is not to be infringed upon. Protecting individual freedoms from a tyranny of the majority is something I believe in.

It may be "unfair", but it is definitely the results of a free negotiation between two parties. Now, if you want to discuss limiting their freedom to enter into contracts with each other, that's fine. I don't think that freedom is absolute. But as most people professing your beliefs are fairly libertarian in outlook, I'd like to impose on you to explain why it's okay in this case. Especially since the right you think it is imposing on is your right to enter into a contract with one of those parties under your preferred conditions.

You've sort of got me pegged, but libertarians come in a spectrum. Sometimes when you just see the most vocal among us, you can get the wrong idea. For example, I'm a libertarian who is very much in favor of strong anti-trust laws. I come to this belief because even though I believe the free market is the way to achieve the best results, I also believe monopolies are a failure mode. In fact, the general distrust of the ability of government to take on duties that I believe are best handled by private enterprise is because the government is a monopoly, so having any one company be the monopoly isn't any better. In this case, I see the union as the monopoly, if you're not allowed to work without being a member.

I believe the original intent was to try to damage unions by allowing free riders, and also make it harder to have a de facto union shop.

I agree, and like I said, I'm against such laws.

Yeah, all the radioactive waste has short half-lives and by 2016 they'll be able to clean up the mostly harmless waste. [sarc]

Seriously though, Tepco lied and said the reactor cores didn't melt down, so what else have they lied about.

We're told the clean-up is safe and no-one is getting ill. Then we're told the Yakuza are in charge of hiring, they're hiring homeless people and workers rights are being ignored. That doesn't sound like a recipe for safe working conditions to me.

How the Yakuza went nuclear

Atomic mafia: Yakuza âcleans upâ(TM) Fukushima, neglects basic workers' rights â" RT News

Just recently, a cop in Sweden spoke out about the massively disproportionate crime rates among non-European people. He's been accused of a hate crime and may be prosecuted for speaking the truth.

The truth isn't always pleasant. Maybe crime helps cause poverty as well as vice versa. Maybe poor genes are somewhat responsible for poor IQs (and not just nutrition and culture).

@AbbyMartin
NYT spreads fake news while defending comical intelligence report, claims I quit RT during live broadcast. Issue a correction now @nytimes

And after NYT's "correction"

Abby Martin @AbbyMartin Jan 8
.@nytimes correction still insinuates I quit RT over Ukraine but I had my show for 1yr after denouncing Putin—disproving the article's point

Please, focus on the bold text!

Earlier today, Melinda Taylor (one of Julian Assange's lawyers) spoke to RT from The Hague. But unfortunately the interviewer stacked so many different questions on top of each other in his interview with Taylor, she could easily escape having to plainly answer whether Assange will turn himself in to the US sometime in May after Manning walks free. At one point (2m06s) the interviewer asked:

Right, so what is the likely outcome of that going to be? What's your best guess at the moment, you are one of his lawyers, what do you think is gonna happen next? Are we gonna see him going off to America? Is there some sort of deal behind the scenes as well, you think? There has been some surmising that there may be some kind of behind-the-scenes deal in Obama's last few days to finally try to get him to go over to America. Is that—any mileage in that or not?

RT's article about this (https://www.rt.com/on-air/374100-assanges-lawyer-melinda-taylor/) currently redirects to their news page instead of showing the article "Assange's lawyer Melinda Taylor talks to RT".

Can you give me some details about this Russian invasion you are talking about? Like for example the date it happened, how many divisions were involved and for how long the fighting between the Russian soldiers and the Ukrainian army went on? Is there any video of this invasion? I mean we now live in a time when everything is recorded by the cellphone of someone, so surely there should be thousands of recording of this invasion, right?

I'm asking all this because last time I checked, what happened was a referendum, not an "invasion".

Military intervention does not require ordered ranks of men in uniform and insignias, chanting that they are the Russian army. We have many reports and pictures of "little green men" or "polite people" as the Russian defense minister called them, in the Crimean conflict, men in new camouflage and weapons issued to soldiers of the Russian Federation. I believe it was Suomen Sotilas which first published a breakdown of the weapons those soldiers used. These were Russian soldiers and Russian military equipment with no insignias on them to cause confusion about their origin in Ukraine during the operation. Putin first said that they were local militia or "self-defense groups" who seized weapons from the Ukrainian army, but later admitted that they were Russian special operations forces. They set up checkpoints in Sevastopol and Simferopol and occupied the Crimean parliament. Shortly after, the parliament announced a referendum on secession, which was "secured," of course, by the occupation. The US DoD afterwards published satellite photos showing Russian forces shelling the Ukrainian military across the border after the referendum.

Andrey Illarionov, a former Putin adviser turned critic, stated two weeks before the annexation crisis that Putin had a plan to destabilize Ukraine to implement a military operation to impose political control over the Ukraine. YMMV over the words of a defector.

Fake news is likely to be on both sides.

That is, things are always NOT simple as black and white, as MSM, and some people here try to paint.
Recently, the Poles nationalists shouted slogans against Ukrainians, and a day later Poland quickly blamed Russia for this.
So, Yushchenko pro-Western president in 2004, granted Bandera "Hero of Ukraine", and Poroshenko pro-Western president in 2016, renamed "Moscow Avenue" to "Bandera Avenue", which more or less have raised the long, hidden conflicts between Ukraine-Poland are also Russian hybridwar?

Note: for another perspective, the difference between Time magazine 2016 and 1996?
1996: Yanks to the rescue. The secret story of how American advisers helped Yeltsin win

For four months, a group of American political consultants clandestinely participated in guiding Yeltsin's campaign. Here is the inside story of how these advisers helped Yeltsin achieve the victory that will keep reform in Russia alive.

2016: Russia Wants to Undermine Faith in the US Election Don't Fall for It

Your analysis would be beautiful, except that in reality, those who silicon valley and who claim to care the most about people, really don't. As a whole, you give very little to charity, minimize tax personal tax burden, and are very, very comfortable with the notion that your special snowflake tech jobs DESERVE 3x more pay than those who serve others. The corporations of silicon valley are notorious for talking the talk about social justice, but then surprisingly absent when it comes time to pay for it. I am looking at your Apple and Google.

So, I bet that you are very supportive about measures that address income inequality....just so long as it does not personally affect you. So, can you please cut the bullshit, SJW crap about how much you care. By all measures you don't. Having a "bad" feeling is nowhere near the same as actually doing something. Please, grow up or shut up.

Btw: Here is my supporting evidence.
Bay Area near bottom of nation charitable giving from SF Chronicle: http://www.sfgate.com/business...
Silicon Valley does not social give: http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2...
Lastly, there are numerous of these showing that conservatives are far more generous than liberals: https://www.rt.com/usa/193952-...

https://www.rt.com/viral/36724...

Yes he did.

"At least Fox puts out something truthful once in a while" is clearly a statement contrasting Fox with RT and thus is claiming that RT never puts out something truthful and thus the claim must be false.

Just like we know McGregor must not have KOed Aldo last year since it must be not be truthful: https://www.rt.com/sport/32580...

Assange doesn't have the funds and probably also not the influence.
In any case, the whole "russians are hacking us" is mostly paranoia.

"Mostly" is being generous.

Assange took the unprecedented step to say specifically "it was not the Russians". He has stated that they never reveal their sources, so to go that far (eliminating Russia gives information about the actual source) he probably felt the fear-mongering was a prelude to a declaration of war, or at least minor hostility.

(And to be fair, it sure looked, at the time, that America was ginning up for a fight with Russia.)

And as for Clinton wanting to kill him, she specifically asked in a meeting "can't we just drone this guy", apparently was not joking, and as a result of the meeting the aides sent her a list of "legal and non-legal strategies" for dealing with assange.

But then again, this could be fake news. Hillary doesn't remember joking about Assange, and Snopes has the "drone strike" claim listed as "unproven".

(Note: The "legal and extra-legal" link is to a copy of the actual memo sent to Hillary.)