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skepdic.com Entry
One of the best resources I've found for general healthy skeptism is skepdic.com. Here's their entry on cattle mutilations. The site is effectively a catalogue of all kinds of phenomenon; I suspect even non skeptics would enjoy browsing through it.
In regards to skepticism in general, I have a thought on that. The first thing skeptics do is question the essentials of any situation. In the vast majority of cases, it is simply the initial information that is wrong and the impossible scenario never occured, at least not how others believe it did. People like to tell interesting stories and they usually aren't very happy when a skeptic begins questioning aspects of their tale. Hence we make a bad impression.
Now if someone could explain the Joplin Spook Light I would be eternally grateful.
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skepdic.com Entry
One of the best resources I've found for general healthy skeptism is skepdic.com. Here's their entry on cattle mutilations. The site is effectively a catalogue of all kinds of phenomenon; I suspect even non skeptics would enjoy browsing through it.
In regards to skepticism in general, I have a thought on that. The first thing skeptics do is question the essentials of any situation. In the vast majority of cases, it is simply the initial information that is wrong and the impossible scenario never occured, at least not how others believe it did. People like to tell interesting stories and they usually aren't very happy when a skeptic begins questioning aspects of their tale. Hence we make a bad impression.
Now if someone could explain the Joplin Spook Light I would be eternally grateful.
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You can't have proof of fantasyThe problem with your challenge is as usual, you're asking for an explanation of "facts" that aren't true. In every case when claims like these are investigated the premises collapse.
For example, you ask for an explaniation of the "surgical tools." Who says there any cuts at all, much less of "surgical precison."? Who says surgical tools are required? Whether the evidence is of anything "surgical" is a judgment call and it turns out that the judgment is wrong.
I'd like to know how you leap from "You can't explain..." to "That proves it was done by aliens in UFOs." Those aliens must have lousy note taking capability if they have to keep doing cattle disections to figure them out.
Scientific investigation does not begin with such premises.
You turned around at your desk and you were surprised that I was standing right behind you. How did I get teleportation capability? Do I have alien technology? Don't just tell me that you think I snuck up behind you quietly!
Here's the explanation for you to ignore because it doesn't have enough fantasy: http://skepdic.com/cattle.html
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Re:Begging you not to Beg the Question
No, that's not what "begging the question" means, either. Begging the question is assuming true what you are attempting to prove.
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Re:Gnome's very problem
Congratulations!
First class example of pulling a Sokal on our ('Insightful' +4) Slashdot readership. -
Is this battery for real?
Sounds suspiciously like something Erich Von Däniken would have forged.... Chuck "Results! Why, man, I have gotten a lot of results. I know several thousand things that won't work." T.A. Edison
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Re:It's about time...
From what I understand, it is relatively easy to patent a mechanism with flaws that prevent it from working as stated.
This is why you should never lend any credence to a product simply because it is patented.
"But of all the requirements for being granted a patent in the U.S., having a working device is not one of them." - Skeptic's Dictionary
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Re:Cayce = Case
More likely, the name refers to Edgar Cayce a supposed psychic who predicted that California would fall into the ocean among other things.
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Begs the queston?
Do your research
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Re:Callipygian in pop culture
...out with a song called "Baby Got Back"...
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Callipygian in pop culture
Several years ago Sir Mix-A-Lot came out with a song called "Baby Got Back," hailing the beauty of large tooshes. In the video, there was an oversized magazine cover featuring a woman on the front, much like Cosmopolitan, but it showed her backside and the title of the mag was "Callipygian!"
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No need to beg.
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Re:Me, violent?
Psychology is all to often dangerous pseudoscience. All too often "psychological research" consists of starting with a conclusion, then designing rigged experiments to support it and/or spin-doctoring the data to support whatever cause they are trying to prove. Take anything the APA says with a large grain of salt.
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Why bother?
Why bother with praying? It doesn't do anything
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Ignorance of science as bs detection.Ignorance of science in our modern world IMHO is the main reason people fall for Baloney.
Examples that spring to my mind:Crystals storing healing "energy".Quartz is piezoelectric, 'nuff said.
Homeopathic cures. Anyone heard of Avogadro's number?
"Natural" cures being better than pharmacuticals. Lead and Radon exist in nature, should we take those too?
"Faith" healing. Confirmation bias anyone?
Aromatic healing. No comment needed.
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A strange case of synchonicity..
While reading in the slashdot postings below about Raelean leader Rael, I hit a link to www.skepdic.com on rael, when i cycled through and found this page charles tart. It describes an anecdote by an apparently famous crackpot about a psycic experience about an explosion a woman had the night before Port Chicago blew up.
I had never heard of Port Chicago before, and here I find it connected like Kevin Bacon to Slashdot. -
Re:Most people don't remember half of what they cl
My guess is these are things that the child has heard many, many times in his/her life, and eventually forms a 'memory' around it. Sort of how some people hear a story about something happening and incorporate that into their stock of things they believe happened to them.
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heh
You can't trust your own brain. You may think you remember things, but you don't. Whenever you "remember" something, your brain is recreating the experience. It isn't like a computer where it's stored as an exact sequence of binary.
Here is a short blurb on memory theory.
Incidently, I have no idea what my earliest memory is. How could anybody? I have numerous memories from when I was quite young (catching a fish, swimming, riding on a train) but how can I accurately say which is my earliest memory and how do I know that my brain didn't just brew them up based on stories I heard about my youth?
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Re:Its dangerous
How was the parent post flamebait? I hope someone meta-mods your ass unfair, you dumbass mod.
Parent post != flamebait. Check here for more info about false memories. -
Re:Sounds better than ScientologyAs a poster above pointed out, you can get some more info about the Raëlians here .
Choice quote from that article:
"Apparently, the Raëlians are not bothered by the rather absurd image of a race of superior beings working for thousands of years in a laboratory to create all our insects, fungi, bacteria, viruses, etc., not to mention all their lovelies that have gone extinct. Why would any beings do such a thing? And why would they wait 25,000 years to reveal their handiwork to a French race car driver who spots their UFO in a volcano? And then tell him that the message is to clone ourselves so we can be immortal. Then again, is this story any stranger than the ones in the Bible?" -
Raelians == UFO Cult
I wouldn't put too much weight on what they Raelians say, this is a publicity stunt and I wouldn't be surprised if the Scientologists were saying the same. There definition of a cloned human probably follows their guidelines too and not scientifically sound.
In my neighorhood for quite some time the Raelians have been trying to recruit ppl. They drive around in this van with sparkling stickers - kind of like a moving target. I got one of their fliers one day and had quite chuckle. I don't think they are too far off Scientologists either. There is some info on the Raelians here. -
Re:linux perversions
this guy goes into a psychiatrists office and the doc shows him some ink blots (rorschach test) - the first one reminds him of sex, the next one reminds him of sex, etc. The doc finally say, "I zee you are obsessed with sex", and the guy says, "Me? You're the one with all the dirty pictures".
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Re:Garbage voodoo marketing
It's worth remembering that all that `eat popcorn/drink coke` subliminal stuff was a hoax. It's not true - it doesn't work.
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Begging the question
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Re:Correct usage of "beg the question"? (O/T)
No. It's a common error. It should be "raises the question".
Here's a decent explanation or just do a Google search and you'll come up with a bunch of sites.
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Re:Simple Answer
When I buy a book, I get access to what Tom Clancy actually wrote. No human wrote the binary image of kernel32.dll. The Copyright Clause is very specific that the rights cover the "writings and discoveries" of "authors and inventors." Both of these imply that copyright should not apply to the output of a mere machine.
You're not paying for the source code. You're paying for permission to use a binary copy of the program and there is a big difference.
You're begging the question. Of course that's how it works now, but the whole point is that I (and the article) claim that this is artificial and unfair and should be changed. It's unfair to the public to allow software manufacturers to obtain copyright protection for something that is essentially useless for promoting progress when it hits the public domain.
While I agree OSS promotes academic achievement its hardly practical for making money off of.
Having source code != OSS. It means only that whoever buys a copy of the software also gets a copy of the source code that they can look at and modify for their own use, but not necessarily copy and distribute.
Could you please send me the HDL/VHDL [etc] source for a GeForce processor please? Can't? Didn't think so.
A GeForce processor isn't copyrighted either. I'm free to make my own if I can legitimately reverse engineer the design. Only patents can prevent that, but guess what. Patents are already fully disclosed to the public. Yet, as you pointed out, both Nvidia and ATI are doing just fine.
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Re:Doubtful [OT]
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Re:Spontaneous human combustion?
There are enough documented cases of [spontaneous] human combustion to at least give some credence to the phenomenon
I don't know of any documented cases. There are cases some have attributed to spontaneous human combustion that can be explained with an external ignition (cigarette, fireplace, etc.) and slow candle-like burning of their body fat. See the entry from The Skeptics Dictionary.
From other posts, it seems reasonable that getting hit by one of these things would do some damage -- equivalent to setting off a few grams of high explosive along the path of the object, but why would it be any more likely to trigger SHC than any number of other violent ends one could meet? Getting hit with large-caliber bullets, or setting off kgs of explosives strapped to one's body don't seem to do the trick so why would quark matter do it?
If SHC were a real phenomenon, militaries would have probably developed weapons to exploit it long ago. SHC-catalyst-tipped bullets? Yikes. -
Pictures in the flames
If you scroll
... you can see a nearly perfect image of a face.
It's a phenomenon known as pareidolia , and is quite a fascinating subject in its own right. Briefly, the human mind tends to seek patterns that it recognizes. When faced with a chaotic input, the mind creates patterns where none exist. Carl Sagan argues that faces in particular are hardwired into our recognition centres.
Incidentally, I can't see the face you're talking about there. (I'm probably not tired enough, as I find I'm very prone to seeing faces everywhere after an all-nighter.)
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N-Rays
Reminds me of the classic French physics fiasco with N-Rays. Can anyone think of others?
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Re:What are you waiting for!?
Actually, I was trying to be funny (ie/ there are reviews for a game that nobody outside of the company has even played yet). The reviews are from consumers, not futureshop.
Neither you nor the moderator got the joke (incidently, how can I be 'overrated' when nobody rated me yet?). Obviously, I'm not as funny as I think I am.
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Re:Safety Issue
Of course... I don't need any sort of headset. I am an excellent driver and I can concentrate on the road without a headset...
Of course you are. And every drunk driver that has ever been pulled over only had a couple beers and was sober enough to drive.
Your overconfidence astounds and frightens me. With your attitude, you are probably more likely to get in an accident.
Human beings are limited in the amount of information they can process at one time. I doubt you've done a controlled, double-blind study to prove you are superior to others in this respect. Perhaps you should read this, this, and this.
I really, really, really hope you were being sarcastic. If you were, please ignore/forgive my tirade. This still applies to any of you that think that you don't have to follow the stupid laws because you are obviously good drivers. -
Re:Safety Issue
Of course... I don't need any sort of headset. I am an excellent driver and I can concentrate on the road without a headset...
Of course you are. And every drunk driver that has ever been pulled over only had a couple beers and was sober enough to drive.
Your overconfidence astounds and frightens me. With your attitude, you are probably more likely to get in an accident.
Human beings are limited in the amount of information they can process at one time. I doubt you've done a controlled, double-blind study to prove you are superior to others in this respect. Perhaps you should read this, this, and this.
I really, really, really hope you were being sarcastic. If you were, please ignore/forgive my tirade. This still applies to any of you that think that you don't have to follow the stupid laws because you are obviously good drivers. -
Re:Safety Issue
Of course... I don't need any sort of headset. I am an excellent driver and I can concentrate on the road without a headset...
Of course you are. And every drunk driver that has ever been pulled over only had a couple beers and was sober enough to drive.
Your overconfidence astounds and frightens me. With your attitude, you are probably more likely to get in an accident.
Human beings are limited in the amount of information they can process at one time. I doubt you've done a controlled, double-blind study to prove you are superior to others in this respect. Perhaps you should read this, this, and this.
I really, really, really hope you were being sarcastic. If you were, please ignore/forgive my tirade. This still applies to any of you that think that you don't have to follow the stupid laws because you are obviously good drivers. -
Postmodernism definedThe authors decline to define postmodernism, for reasons of space. While I respect their decision, here's some insight from Frederick Jameson, William A. Lane Professor of Comparative literature and Director of the Graduate Program in Literature and the Center for Crirical Theory at Duke University, perilously near to where I live:
"Any sophisticated theory of the postmodern ought to bear something of the same relationship to Horkheimer and Adorno's old 'Culture Industry' concept as MTV or fractal ads bear to fifties television series."
If you don't know what this means, it's because your brain evolved to reject drivel. To be perfectly honest, I hope this is a hoax. Wouldn't be the first time.
But then, with postmodernism, you can't really tell the hoaxes from the honest nonsense.
Adam Gopnik of the New Yorker noted some time ago that the message of postmodern work is almost always trivial (like "violence is bad"), but couched in the most inscrutable and/or eye-catching terms (like "search for an interpretive skein within that overburdened word 'violence'" or "violence as style"). How about this one, from the paper: "Without a grand narrative, there will no be one common way to program, or even one common kind of interface between programs." More than one way to program? Sign me up for a grand narrative, post-haste!
I thought Slashdot was immune to this kind of idiocy. (Well...no, I didn't, but I can dream, can't I?)
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Re:I'm sure...
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OT: Begging the Question
The first article seems to make the case that all geeks demand open source exclusively, because if you don't make such demands, you're not a geek. (A classic falacy of logic).
Yes. It's called begging the question. It's where you make a make an argument where you assume what you are trying to prove. Some people call it circular logic. So if I say:"All geeks like open-source. If you are against open-source, then you aren't a geek."
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Re:Life?
Sounds like the 'psychic' strategy - predict enough weird stuff and odds are that one will eventually come true, make you famous, while the bogus ones are quickly forgotten by the beleivers / suckers. That's called the Jean Dixon effect.
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Re:The most long-lived virus/worm/trojan?
That isn't what begging the question means. Read up: http://skepdic.com/begging.html
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Probably used the good
ol' Indian rope trick .
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Great *rolls eyes*
where viewers are encouraged to examine...despite the fact that the majority of viewers have no idea what the code means.
Once again art critics are commenting on something that they have no business commenting on. Thus the definition of art broadens just a bit more and loses more meaning. Right now it seems that humanities study equates to being able to make up more BS with a straight face than anyone else.
It's like those conversations you have on some CS topic where Joe Average says something and you have to reply "Um... that isn't how it works at all."
Of course in the arts it doesn't matter what is being said but what sort of crack-headed theory you can come up with about it and how loud your posse of "experts" can beat their chests. Of course in science we have terms for that too: Lysenkoism or Pathological science -
Great *rolls eyes*
where viewers are encouraged to examine...despite the fact that the majority of viewers have no idea what the code means.
Once again art critics are commenting on something that they have no business commenting on. Thus the definition of art broadens just a bit more and loses more meaning. Right now it seems that humanities study equates to being able to make up more BS with a straight face than anyone else.
It's like those conversations you have on some CS topic where Joe Average says something and you have to reply "Um... that isn't how it works at all."
Of course in the arts it doesn't matter what is being said but what sort of crack-headed theory you can come up with about it and how loud your posse of "experts" can beat their chests. Of course in science we have terms for that too: Lysenkoism or Pathological science -
A little over the topThat article was a bit sensationalist. To read it, it sounds like the peer review system completely failed and the whole foundation of physics is crashing down. There certainly appear to be problems within that research group in that so many coauthors seemed to have been happy to attach their names to the papers without scrutinizing the results, but once the papers were published the scientific system worked.
It is a reasonable criticism directed at Science and Nature that they seem to compete with each other to publish attention-getting results (the recent bubble fusion experiment comes to mind), but what it comes down to is that a reviewer of a paper has no way to validate experimental data given to him. You have to take the research group at its word that the data are not fabricated. You can question their data reduction and analysis methods, but if they said they did this measurement and these are the resulting data then you have to take them at their word.
One of the ways science operates is that results like these are presented, and if the results are interesting enough (i.e., unexpected or never seen before) then other labs repeat and verify the experiment. When the results are confirmed, then great. If not, then the results (or at least the conclusions drawn from them) become suspect. This happened with cold fusion and it looks like bubble fusion is heading down the same road. This has happened in the past (N-rays are another example), and it will happen in many other instances that don't draw the big press stories. That is how it should work. The Salon article seems to suggest (among some valid points) that the paper reviewers should have had some all-knowing wisdom and immediately questioned the data.
I also doubt, as the article suggests, that the reputation of physicists has been harmed and that all over the world school children are crying "Say it ain't so Jan Hendrik." The biosciences have many many scandals related to data forging, or at least questionable massaging or analysis of data, because the stakes ($$) are much higher for a new drug to come to market as well as the difficulty in collecting consistent data. The biosciences continue to draw huge numbers of people into the field and it enjoys (deservedly) a positive reputation.
I also thought the article was way over the top with regard about the government funding aspect of this. It made it sound like that all the government money spent on R&D is a waste as it obviouly is going to charlatans and rouges. The author should have looked up the research dollar amounts in relation to the total government budget (such as its percentage of the GNP) as well as in relation to the total non-DoD R&D budget and see how well the NSF or the DOE compare to, say, NIH (I'll give you a hint, they are quite neglected). This isn't "Big Science" by any stretch of the imagination.
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Re:Bermuda TriangleNot even that. It is not at all uncommon for ships to disappear without a trace at sea, especially in the ocean where there are strong currents and the water is deep. It takes substantial effort to locate a sunken ship even when you know exactly where it sank.
The myth is more of a media phenomenon, much like the alleged curse of King Tut's tomb. It was a twisting of facts and numbers by a writer to create the illusion of something supernatural, with the aim of bringing in a lot of readers (because frankly, people love this stuff). It's essentially tabloid writing.
There were a couple of pieces written in the fifties noting disappearances in that general area, but the Bermuda Triangle as we know it was invented by a magazine writer in 1964.
The Skeptic's Dictionary explains the Triangle pretty well.
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Re:The Elegant UniverseI have to dissent - Dancing Wu Li Masters and The Tao of Physics are complete piles of doo-doo. They strain to pound the round "quantum" buzzword into the square hole of eastern religion, and it just doesn't work. Both authors make leaps of logic (when they use logic at all) to claim that modern physics somehow justifies, or reinforces, certain religions. The whole discussion devolves into a lot of oversimplified, overgeneralized, fuzzy-headed, feel-good blather that really makes little sense when scrutinized.
Check out the article on Deepak Chopra and Ayurvedic medicine at The Skeptic's Dictionary for more criticism of these books. -
*pffpf* Proven treatments indeed...
Proven medical treatments, such as silver, acupuncture, homeopathy, etc. (proven not by a few piddly years of research, but in most cases many decades or centuries of use)
I can't speak for silver (I've not done enough reading on this particular 'treatment'), but I can say that both acupuncture and homeopathy are NOT proven treatments, nothing even close. I challenge you to produce one paper in a reputable medical journal that demonstrates the effectiveness of these treatments.
Just because something has been done for a long time, does not mean it works. All it has to do is make people think it works, and people are pretty easy to fool. People believed in the 4 bodily humours for centuries too, and the entirety of Western medical practice was based on this premise for a long time. Eventually though, evidence-based medicine took over and properly so.
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I'm curious about your reference.
Occam's razor is the principle of simplification and minimalism taught by a Fransciscan monk named William of Ockham in the 14th century. It basically stated, "The profoundly simple is simply profound." In short, the simpler explanation, the better. Are you arguing for some sort of parsimony in attributing blame to the garbage in the music industry?
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The Forer effect
I remember another study where students were asked to fill out a small survey. The professor then reviewed all the surveys and gave each student a customized personality profile. The students were asked the rate the profiles, and all gave them very high rankings....
The professor was B.F.Forer and the Forer effect is named after him, there's an explanation here.
Elsewhere on the site is an explanation of how to give a cold readingThe whole site is worth reading, covers confirmation bias too.
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The Forer effect
I remember another study where students were asked to fill out a small survey. The professor then reviewed all the surveys and gave each student a customized personality profile. The students were asked the rate the profiles, and all gave them very high rankings....
The professor was B.F.Forer and the Forer effect is named after him, there's an explanation here.
Elsewhere on the site is an explanation of how to give a cold readingThe whole site is worth reading, covers confirmation bias too.