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Re:Why is it "Not News"?
"The article is from the Daily Mail, hardly a good source."
Why aren't they a good source? They're the second best selling mainstream newspaper in Britain. You're going to have to elaborate on this one.
The best-selling daily newspaper in Britain is The Sun. Here (NWS) is a "story" linked from their front page. They will have printed those pictures on Page 3. At least half of the stories on the (web) front page are about women (preferably topless), sport, celebrities (especially the Royal Family), and sex. A story about a topless sporting celebrity having sex with a member of the Royal Family is guaranteed front-page material for a week.
That's what sells in the UK, not accurate, in-depth news.
The Daily Mail doesn't have topless models but does have celebrities and royals (and more sport than the more serious papers).
Is that why they're not "a good source"? You don't like their editorial stance?
No. The Daily Telegraph has a similar political stance (UK right-wing), but I'll trust their reporting a lot more than the Daily Mail.
I would call the style of Daily Mail reporting inflammatory.
Compare the current front page headline articles (first few sentences):
Mail: "Six children at same school hit by deadly swine flu virus as British toll hits 27
Britain's toll from the deadly swine flu virus has hit 27 as nine new cases were confirmed by the Health Protection Agency. Seven children, five at the same school, were among the latest sufferers diagnosed with the killer disease."
Hit! deadly! hits! deadly! hit! sufferers! killer!Telegraph: "Nine new cases of swine flu in Britain with five at one leading school
Nine new cases of swine flu have been confirmed in Britain with five of them at one of Britain's leading independent [private] schools. The outbreak happened among Year 7 pupils at Alleyn's School in Dulwich, south east London, which became the fourth UK school to be closed down because of the H1N1 virus. There are now 27 confirmed cases in the UK. Of the nine confirmed today seven were spread by person-to-person contact among people who had not travelled to Mexico or the US."
Cases, confirmed, outbreak.Mail: "Despite fears a second 'wave' of the killer virus could erupt later this year, Hilary Benn admitted the disease looks less serious than first thought."
Ouch, criticising the politician for being cautious! The Telegraph's article on this isn't critical of anyone -- in fact, it seems to support the caution. -
Re:Why is it "Not News"?
"The article is from the Daily Mail, hardly a good source."
Why aren't they a good source? They're the second best selling mainstream newspaper in Britain. You're going to have to elaborate on this one.
The best-selling daily newspaper in Britain is The Sun. Here (NWS) is a "story" linked from their front page. They will have printed those pictures on Page 3. At least half of the stories on the (web) front page are about women (preferably topless), sport, celebrities (especially the Royal Family), and sex. A story about a topless sporting celebrity having sex with a member of the Royal Family is guaranteed front-page material for a week.
That's what sells in the UK, not accurate, in-depth news.
The Daily Mail doesn't have topless models but does have celebrities and royals (and more sport than the more serious papers).
Is that why they're not "a good source"? You don't like their editorial stance?
No. The Daily Telegraph has a similar political stance (UK right-wing), but I'll trust their reporting a lot more than the Daily Mail.
I would call the style of Daily Mail reporting inflammatory.
Compare the current front page headline articles (first few sentences):
Mail: "Six children at same school hit by deadly swine flu virus as British toll hits 27
Britain's toll from the deadly swine flu virus has hit 27 as nine new cases were confirmed by the Health Protection Agency. Seven children, five at the same school, were among the latest sufferers diagnosed with the killer disease."
Hit! deadly! hits! deadly! hit! sufferers! killer!Telegraph: "Nine new cases of swine flu in Britain with five at one leading school
Nine new cases of swine flu have been confirmed in Britain with five of them at one of Britain's leading independent [private] schools. The outbreak happened among Year 7 pupils at Alleyn's School in Dulwich, south east London, which became the fourth UK school to be closed down because of the H1N1 virus. There are now 27 confirmed cases in the UK. Of the nine confirmed today seven were spread by person-to-person contact among people who had not travelled to Mexico or the US."
Cases, confirmed, outbreak.Mail: "Despite fears a second 'wave' of the killer virus could erupt later this year, Hilary Benn admitted the disease looks less serious than first thought."
Ouch, criticising the politician for being cautious! The Telegraph's article on this isn't critical of anyone -- in fact, it seems to support the caution. -
For non UK readers even more info
The second part is just nonsense though, the kind of tripe put out by the Daily Mail.
Presumably you are referring to this Mail article which is in fact referring to a Daily Telegraph interview with Lord Ashdown the former leader of the Liberal Democrats? This has also been reported by the Times and the Independent, making your comment somewhat disingenuous.
The Labour Party won't split into two, no one (except Daily Mail writers) is even suggesting that.
According to the Telegraph article Lord Ashdown is suggesting just that. Of course no one knows just yet how many Labour MP's have discussed this yet, but a huge election defeat may make this happen.
The UK does not have massive debt, it's actually still a lot lower than most other developed counties (including France, Germany and Japan). It's big by our standards but put in perspective it's not particularly unusual, in fact our previous low levels of government borrowing were unusual.
The Labour government has been spending like a drunken sailor in port. This has been widely reported both in the UK and abroad. While the UK may have less government debt than other nations the next UK government is going to have to cut back on spending on a large scale.
At the moment a poll of polls suggests that the Labour party would remain in power were an election called tomorrow
Please provide a link to the poll you refer to.
I'm no fan of labour, and Jacqui Smith is a particularly nasty, authoritarian powermonger, but I try not to delude myself by believing everything I read in the right wing press.
I go further and view all press reports with scepticism.
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Re:where have I heard this before?
I don't get it. A person creates something, somebody else through very little effort on their part makes money off that work.
How is that right?
I don't condone the **IA's actions, or record industry contracts, I just don't see why people think it's OK to "get free stuff"
Do you ever listen to the radio? Check out the story from last month how a stable owner in the UK was forced to stop playing classical music from the radio for her horses because she received a cease-and-desist: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5061004/Woman-who-plays-classical-music-to-soothe-horses-told-to-get-licence.html
Then go on trying to defend the actions of the **IA and their international brethren.
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Re:Tele2 operates throughout Europe...
I wonder if they'll adopt the same strategy in other countries?
I certainly haven't seen any advertisements yet about "Tele2 - the company that brings small bills and big privacy".
The UK just decided that ISPs should record all internet traffic and store it for a specified period in case the government wants to dip in for a snoop...
so don't trust anyone in the UK, although exit-nodes here should be okay if they only store IP and timestamp.
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Explain this
American authorities reportedly refused an Air France flight from Paris to Mexico entry into US airspace because a left-wing journalist writing a book on the CIA was on board.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5217186/US-authorites-divert-Air-France-flight-carrying-no-fly-journalist-to-Mexico.html
There is excessive paranoia going on. Face it! -
Re:Seems like the Swedish know what to do.
Yes, the Nuremburg trials wer just "victor's justice". Regardless of the criminality of the defendants, when translators are allowed to intentionally mistranslate and make fun of defendants, you are dealing with a kangaroo court.
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Re:It does seem like trademark and cybersquatting!
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Re:BWM?
Haha, good one. How about this? Leftist terrorists were discovered - their plot was to dress as police and then open fire, but they spelled police wrong on their motorbikes, and were arrested when real cops spotted the mistake.
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Re:That's a lot of iPods
The G20 was talking about dumping the dollar, I see the name of this new global currency is the iPod. The money is going to be multi colored bright with the words 'In Steve we trust' emblazoned on it.
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Re:DNA Databases are good
For some reason a significant amount say yes... I can't understand why one would if they have already committed some terrible crimes, but they seem to.
The trouble is trolling through a large enough database will randomly create some false positives. Even if you assume the DNA data is reliable, which it isn't, then you still have the problem of "I bumped into this person, and through some strange series of events my skin cells contaminated the sample." There was already a case of the police desperately searching for a serial killer for 6 murders, only to later realize that the suspect was a technician who was accidentally contaminating the samples. Check out the story here, here or here.
The problem with modern DNA techniques is they can be too sensitive. They light up anyone who ever came in contact with the sample. Even if this is through accidental contact.
Good Luck if you actually had sex with the girl, and the rapist used a condom. Your going to be a suspect no matter what you do. Hope you have a really good alibi, a really good lawyer, and that the girl swears that you are a nice guy. Your going to need that alibi for the next 100 years.
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Destruction of evidence...
There is a fine line between merely caring for your customers and helping them get away with wrongs (be that wrong a crime or just a civil offense).
It is surprising, that it is legal, and they may be mistaken too — The Pirate Bay crew was just sentenced to a year in jail, however long them claimed, they did "nothing wrong".
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Re:Prepaid phones.
A Telegraph.co.uk article on this story suggests that this is specifically about prepaid phones. It appears that nearly all Mexican mobiles are prepaid.
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Re:Prepaid phones.
Actually, they'll be fingerprinting people.
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Re:Rent-a-cops
(impersonating a police officer is a serious offence)
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Re:Islam, eh?
Dear OSCT, please read the news before designating a religion as peaceful.
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Re:1 step forward, 2 steps back
I was a big fan of the Tesla until Top Gear's review.
that shows how ignorant you are. The BBC admitted Tesla car did not run out of power and need to be pushed into a garage as the Top gear review suggested. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/3933517/Jeremy-Clarkson-in-Top-Gear-fakery-row-over-electric-car.html
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Re:Imagine
Firstly, atheists are a minority at the current time, world wide so even if the percentage of atheists that were "militant" were the same as amongst muslims, you'd still be able to point out that there were more of the religious type. It's a non-scientific argument.
I disagree. An argument based on hard numbers and evidence of present actions is much more sound than a nebulous hand-waving about potential threats that don't yet exist (as you admit here) and one which you haven't even accounted for external factors (as you admit in the next point).
If anybody were making an argument that we should *encourage* atheist militancy as a counter to religious militancy, you'd have a point because then we'd have to take into account future consequences of that increased militancy, but I don't think anybody is doing that.
Secondly you have to control for other factors. How well does atheism correlate with rich populations enjoying periods of peace compared to poor populations under non-democratic rule and / or recent or ongoing periods of conflict? How are these correlations for Islam?
Okay go for it. I don't think you'll be able to. How do you put a hard number on violence or standard of living? Even among relatively similar societies it's very difficult to scientifically state that country A is "nicer" than country B.
Regarding the percentage of muslims that "support, rationalize, and defend their [terrorists] behavior", I'm going to have to ask for both citations and tight definitions of terrorism.
I can't give you a tight definition of terrorism. It's very subjective. Terrorism to Muslims is very different than terrorism to non-Muslims, for instance. Many would say that filming a beheading and showing it to others as a warning is terrorism, Muslims might say that it's a valid battle technique, and in fact many will argue that beheading is humane since you go into shock immediately and don't feel any pain or some crap. (I've heard it.)
Here's a poll about the tube bombings in England: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
99% of British Muslims condemn the tube bombings! Yay! 1% actually said they totally support them. 1% is larger than the "millions and millions" thing I stated... that would require less than 0.1%.
But the important part is that 20% feel sympathetic to their motives. That's what I meant by rationalizing. Muslims have this peculiar way of being "against" specific terrorist acts, but sympathizing with the terrorists' motives. Then when they talk about the solution to terrorism, it has nothing to do with them or their community but simply to make the host country more compatible with Islam so that terrorists don't feel the need to do bad things.
If you have been reading about the situation in Pakistan in the last few years, you can see what I was talking about ALL OVER. Nobody in Pakistan endorses the Taliban, yet a majority support making peace deals with the Taliban that gives them exclusive control over the border lands and tribal areas. You see, they'll say, these tribal cultures are very radical anyway, that style of Islam suits them. Completely ignoring the hundreds of thousands of refugees that have fled those regions as the Taliban takes over! They have no problem with the Taliban spreading the influence of Islam in other areas, as long as it's not their own. Note I'm not talking about attacks on US troops, I'm talking about the takeover of portions of their own country and civilian portions of Afghanistan. If you go online and check out the beheading videos, the bombings of girls' schools, the public beatings, the mutilation of dead bodies of policemen and "agents of the west" in these regions, I really don't see how you can argue that it's not terrorism, even without a "tight" definition.
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Re:Hard to be optimistic about Hungary
Thank you for your extremely informative post. (This is a hint to moderators).
I'm not optimistic either about the sincerity of this attempt.
Surely you are not suggesting that the Hungarian government would ever lie to voters. Such a thing would be unheard of. Though actually on that issue, when parties make promises to voters that they can't keep, I prefer the party that knows it's lying to the one that deludes itself into thinking it's telling the truth.
The guy who made this statement might not be a minister from next Tuesday, when there'll be a new PM, who will reshuffle the government.
Yes, the instability isn't just financial. I'm curious to see who the hell will actually be willing to take the job.
I also hope that Hungary might have a snap election too.
At the risk of getting further off-topic, I have mixed feelings about this. Hungary certainly needs a government with some degree of public support, and an election would elect people with that kind of legitimacy. But on the otherhand, from the populist and nationalist statements coming from those who are likely to win such an election, I think that they are the worst possible people to handle the crisis. As I said above, I prefer the liars who know a bit about economics to those who make the same promises and actually think that they can keep them.
In any case, the language the minister used is a bit deceptive. Unfortunately after taking a close look at what he said, it seems the money can only be spent on licences. Training costs, etc. are explicitly excluded from funding (have to be covered by the given organizations themselves).
Again, thanks for that. The whole thing just seemed so incoherent to me that I thought that I was misreading it. Now I understand that it is genuinely incoherent. I don't think that most slashdotters realize the extent to which Hungary is in deep shit. But let this be a small illustration of incompetence and murkiness (looks like someone is paying off someone else). And to make matters worse, in my opinion the current government is still better than the opposition.
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Re:Europe...
Comparing Soviet and Nazi occupations is just insane. It's way beyond bending of history.
Really? Why? Stalin killed far more people than Hitler. The difference between Stalin and Hitler was the target of the genocide. Hitler decimated Jews, Gypsies, and other undesired races, while Stalin decimated people accused of being bourgeois by the millions, performed ethnic cleansing and ethnic relocation to avoid separatism, oppressed and killed a huge number of religious people, performed genocide through engineered famines such as Holodomor...
In short:
Hitler: The German people is superior, and we will ensure our power through *whatever means necessary*
Stalin: Communism is superior, and we will ensure our power through *whatever means necessary*
Oh, and the Soviet "liberation" of Nazi occupied areas:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/1382565/Red-Army-troops-raped-even-Russian-women-as-they-freed-them-from-camps.html
Let me ask an interesting question: do you see any justification at all for
1) Stalin fighting alongside Hitler, until Hitler betrayed him (and then he defeated Hitler, and rewrote History to say that "The Soviets were always allied with^W^W against the Nazi comrades^W menace"
2) USSR occupying Eastern Europe? "Oh, to free them from Nazism, we shall occupy them, put them under a bloody communist dictatorship, and of course, perform genocide against all dissidents. They will thank us for that. Even though we helped the Nazis in the first place. Since we write the history books, they don't even have to know that."And now Russia helps the rebels in Georgia and other countries, because rebels are freedom fighters! They must be helped. Specially separatist rebels in other countries, of course. Specially if they want to get their territories annexed by Russia.
But the rebels from Chechnya? Oh, those are terrorists! They must all be decimated to keep Russian sovereignty!
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Re:Engineering with Nuclear Explosives
It would be funny to see our response if China or Iran made this proposal for their own use today.
China has proposed punching a water tunnel through the Himalayas using shaped nuclear charges. (This doesn't mean a row of spherical caverns; it's possible to make shaped nuclear charges and drive a projectile of molten metal through rock, much like anti-tank ammo.)
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Re:Seriously?
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Re:Being informed about the rules
If you are smart enough to know how to get men to pay you for getting naked on a web cam, then you are also smart enough to know that, duh, you have to pay tax for it.
I'm pretty sure you don't have to be too smart to be a prostitute. Even lesser mammals can figure it out.
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Re:Change
What difference does it make where people are being tortured by the US?
Obama supports torture. Guantanamo is just a publicity stunt.
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This bit intrigues meFrom the story:
Hundreds of public bodies and quangos, including local councils, will also be able to access the data to investigate flytipping and other less serious crimes.
So how many people will post on a website or email their friends to say "we just dumped the old sofa in someone's driveway"?
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Re:Truth in summary....Editors Stoned/Drunk....
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Re:Broken summary
Once again, for those who didn't get the top-level reply: I think this is the story Slashdot is attempting to post.
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Perhaps this is the story you were after.
Internet records to be stored for a year.
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Re:no guns
Oh and deaths (of which I was talking) there were 258 knife murders in 06/07 according to this trash piece:
Is that because knives are more deadly or more... I don't know... legal?
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Re:If the ice melts
sea levels are already rising
No, they're not.
"if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel MÃrner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr MÃrner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story"
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"When I spoke to Dr MÃrner last week, he expressed his continuing dismay at how the IPCC has fed the scare on this crucial issue. When asked to act as an "expert reviewer" on the IPCC's last two reports, he was "astonished to find that not one of their 22 contributing authors on sea levels was a sea level specialist: not one". Yet the results of all this "deliberate ignorance" and reliance on rigged computer models have become the most powerful single driver of the entire warmist hysteria"
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Re:Why does bad news out number good news?
there isn't a lot of money in showing people good news, or pointing out they are pretty much safe and nothing really relevant to them has happened.
Actually, the government spends a lot of our money showing people the good news about how safe they are. Whether it's true is another matter, of course...
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Whole discussion is bullshit
Google is doing the work of Islamic Jihadists, gathering data for the next terrorist strike.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3565918/Mumbai-attacks-Terrorist-suspect-arrested-in-February-had-Bombay-attack-plans.html -
Re:who cares?
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Re:Silly
You've probably seen them all, but I don't see them as the lead off news stories anymore.
Video of him tripping all over himself.
Quite a few random quotes.
More videos. Some already covered and includes some Biden classics.
I think these things are funny and bound to happen when you have the media attention that any sitting President would have. I thought many of the Bush ones were funny too. What I disagree with is attacking Bush for every verbal trip up while gushing all over Obama when he does the EXACT same thing on a fairly regular basis.
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Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian co
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Re:Adequate Reward? Please...
"$20,000/100 Days = $200 dollars, day. $200/24 hours = $8.33/hour"
In this economy, I'm sure plenty of people would be very happy to make 20k for lounging in a 19,500 cubic feet capsule for 3 months. Actually I'm sort of doing that now, except instead of a capsule it's a house, and instead of making $20,000 I'm actually paying to live here.
From the article: "This time, conditions will be much improved, with team members allowed to bring DVDs, laptops and books with them."
with hard drives as cheap as they are, put me in there with a couple terabyte of TV episodes and movies over the last 30 years and I'd be happy.
"scheduled for December, which will see another group of volunteers spending over 500 days in the same conditions. "
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Re:Hey KDAWSON! Please PROOFREAD your summaries.Actually the spelling is taken verbatim from the first paragraph of the Telegraph article:
"will spend the next 105 days living in a minimally furnished facility erected in a hanger on the outskirts of the Russian capital"
I'm wondering if this is the British spelling or did the Telegraph make a mistake?
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Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
Obama, puppet of the oligarchs and banking cabals. Throw the proles a "bone" but tighten the noose everywhere else.
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obam
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Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian co
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Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report
I trimmed it down for you, one whitespace.
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers i
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Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report
Again, a foolish stupid fuck you are. If you cant be bothered to read and understand what is happening now, and the dystopian authoritarian totalitarian state tht is being erected, you will be subjected to an untimely death that you deserve because if liberty means nothing to you, truth means nothing, then you will be enslaved like the prole that you have just shown yourself to be.
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN w
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Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian co
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Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report
Thats all you have? "SHUT UP." Alex Jones Aside , I doubt you can refute anything in there and the news-links provided indicate that there are massive changes to world finance that WE have no control over.
Kindly , fuck off you undereducated indoctrinated prole asshole. Its scum like you liking the boots of hitler, mao and stalin that cause 100's of millions of death, you fucking murderer. Eyes wide shut fucking moron.
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Is
-
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian co
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Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian co
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Re:What gives?
Sounded strange to me too. After Facebook changed terms of service in a way to allow them to license and sub-license whatever Facebook users share I was considering to leave the FB forever. It was rumored that FB could have backdoor allowing monitoring of the all communications between users. When I saw this headline http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/facebook/5046447/Facebook-could-be-monitored-by-the-government.html I decided to erase my account and leave the FB forever because I was afraid that new terms of service and looks was not all that has changed.
I guess that The Pirate Bay has nothing to lose. Facebook is probably the most closed community on the internet, so getting in the one such community might look like a good strategic move. -
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian co
-
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian co
-
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian co
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Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA
Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary
Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency
What are the reserve currencies?
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people'
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers
A False Choice
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands
Socialising and Privatising
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.
- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian co