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Re:My question
Beagle 2 simply had a small painting with known color values bolted in front of the camera to be used for calibration. I guess NASA does something similar.
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Re:Save Disney site.
save disney? are you joking?
They re-tell stolen stories. They create little original work, for instance; nemo; atlantis) not to mention it robes timeless popular tales then defends them as disney's own creation. They use child labour to make garbage for hyper-consumers in the west (for instance, from a little googling: "A Haitian worker earns only 7 cents for every pair of Disney Pocahontas pajamas she sews, which sells at Wal-Mart for $11.97. These wages amount to one-half of one percent of the sale price of these pajamas.")
disney also plans on undermining poor sustanance fishermen in HongKong, dredging up toxic material in order to build a themepark.
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Re:Echelon?
All that chatter, with the codewords they use, could possibly be understood by a football field full of Linux rackmounts, and might foil something.
You don't need much technology to predict future terrorist attacks. I just used google.. and look what I found! -
Re:It amazes me
> He broke the Taliban
The taliban is not only still together and performing occasional attacks, they're working with local warlords. Essentially, Karzais government doesnt extend too far from Kabul. Lets just admit it, Bush left Afghanistan in the cold because his administration wanted Iraq so much more.
> He conquered Iraq.
A fourth rate military decimated by sanctions and weekly bombings for over ten years? Bulgaria could have "conquered iraq." I hate to break it to you but the war is still going on, the war was justified by lies, there's no government or security to speak of, and people are still dying.
> He created a new federal agency.
A lumbering giant that has yet to prove its effectiveness, especially for what it cost us.
> Do I need go on?
No, but you shouldn't oversimplify things to praise Bush.
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Yes they did. Almost *half* of them did at least.
8 of 19 alleged hijackers are still alive.
Waleed M Alshehri - alive and well in Casablanca, Morocco
Marwan Al Shehhi - Alive; same link as above
Ahmed Alghamdi - Alive; same link as above
Wail M Alshehri - Alive
Ahmed Alnami - Alive; same link as above
Abdulaziz Alomari - Working for Saudi Telecom
Salem Alhamzi - Working at a petrochemical company
Saeed Alghamdi - Alive; same link as above -
Re:Fuck Tim Berners-Lee
Sure, because they were afraid of being ridiculed by their socialist chums for selling out and or kissing up to the monarchy. Not having seen TBL reading out of the little red book lately, I see no reason why this shallow and superficial ( and meaningless ) gesture should prevent him from accepting this mark of recognition from a group of UK civil servants.
Keep refusing those honors, technologists! After all, you won't have any indie cred otherwise.
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Fuck Tim Berners-Lee
Fuck Tim Berners-Lee for accepting an honor from the "Queen" of England. Hundreds
of great men and women have sensibly refused to accept such honors from one
of the last remaining "divine right" monarchies on the earth. Why wasn't Tim
Berners-Lee among them?
Upon learning of this news, my estimation of Mr. Berners-Lee has dropped quite
a bit. Who you will accept honors from says a lot about you. I would have
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link to story....Re:Daily Telegraph
Bypass forum. Go directly to the story. iPod buyers singing the blues
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You mean Acoustic Kitty?
Here's a link.
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250 years is a lot of mass graves
The stated reasons were WMD, Iraq-Al-Qaida relation and relation with 9/11.
You are entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.
First off, this was a discussion of international law (not that I remember the US ceding its sovereignty to the UN), not Bush's justification for the war.
Bush gave three reasons in his speeches before the war. Pay attention now:
WMD, war on terror, liberate Iraqis/democratize the region. Also, make the region more safe. From liberal NY Times columnist EJ Dionne in January, 4 months before the war:
(1) taking weapons of mass destruction out of Saddam Hussein's hands, or (2) removing Hussein from power, or (3) bringing democracy to Iraq and revolutionizing the politics of the Middle East.
Then why the same logic was not applied to UN inspection team ? why is it that UN team is supposed to find the WMD in a short time and US has to be given 250 years for the same.?
Because Hans "Cleuseau" Blix wouldn't be driving Saddam into a rat hole. The Left's idea of "containment" was Hussein's thugs training Muhammed Atta and throwing people into acid baths and wood chippers.
Given the choice of 1) "containment (see above definition) and 2) Dragging Saddam out of a rat hole, I'll take the latter. -
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Re:WMD detectorYou don't get it, it seems. You also seem to like to pick and choose your news. You just want to deny, deny, deny. And that's fine.
Iraqi colonel who told MI6 that Saddam could launch WMD within 45 minutes
Read the article. This was covered by every
major news agency. You just seemed to have missed it.
Login for the telegraph:
user: thetruthhurts@doesntit.com
pass: wmds
Here's a few snippets for you:
He said they were to be used by Saddam's Fedayeen paramilitaries and units of the Special Republican Guard when the war with coalition troops reached "a critical stage".
The containers, which came from a number of factories on the outskirts of Baghdad, were delivered to the army by the Fedayeen and were distributed to the front-line units under cover of darkness.
The devices, which were known by Iraqi officers as "the secret weapon", were made in Iraq and designed to be launched by hand-held rocket-propelled grenades. They could also have been launched sooner than the 45-minutes claimed in the dossier.
"Forget 45 minutes," said Col al-Dabbagh "we could have fired these within half-an-hour."
Local commanders were told that they could use the weapons only on the personal orders of Saddam. "We were told that when the war came we would only have a short time to use everything we had to defend ourselves, including the secret weapon," he said.
The only reason that these weapons were not used, said Col al-Dabbagh, was because the bulk of the Iraqi army did not want to fight for Saddam. "The West should thank God that the Iraqi army decided not to fight," he said.
"If the army had fought for Saddam Hussein and used these weapons there would have been terrible consequences."
Saddam was in a whole in the ground because he was a coward. He was captured alive! With a gun at his hip, and plenty of time to use it (being that he was in a whole that had to be uncovered, a process that surely took several minutes)
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More links to story
Spain and Morocco to build train tunnel under sea
Spain and Morocco plan tunnel link
Tunnel to link Spain and Morocco agreed
Tunnel link for Africa and Europe
Spain, Morocco to build tunnel under Mediterranean Sea
Spain, Morocco plan undersea tunnel
DON'T MOD THIS UP. MY KARMA IS ALREADY EXCELLENT (has been for months!)
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Re:Are you from the UK?
I'd be interested in seeing where you found this information about the Telegraph receiving false information (not the Christian Science Monitor) I would find it highly strange that it got it's information from some random "source" as it clearly reported to be getting its information from the Iraqi Coalition Government itself.
"However, the tantalising detail provided in the intelligence document uncovered by Iraq's interim government suggests that Atta's involvement with Iraqi intelligence may well have been far deeper than has hitherto been acknowledged."
In addition, as of today, December 14, the Telegraph is still publishing new articles about the Atta/Nidal/Baghdad link, as seen here.
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Re:The Election's over...
"When, exactly WHEN did Saddam "go after America"? When, and how?"
Read and learn something -
Re:No connectiontelegraph.co.uk
wow, i wish i could have such a simple minded view of the world like you, this thinking for myself bit is such a strain -
Re:bin laden..
go read the telegraph.co.uk story about hussain support of al qaida - will you call it a vast right-wing conspiracy if it proves to be true?
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Re:Saddam-9/11 LinkI couldn't get that link to work. I had to lop off the end. Here's the clickable link:
Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
Other highlights:
"We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaida," said Dr Ayad Allawi, a member of Iraq's ruling seven-man presidential committee, according to the London paper.
"But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far," he said. "It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaida, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks." -
Re:Random ramblings. (Ignore this post.)
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Re:Enough already
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Re:The Election's over...
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Re:Clinton and Bush
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Re:See no evil, hear no evil...
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Re:WMD && Oil != the issue
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Wrong, again, but who is counting?Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
"The fact that it has absolutely nothing to do with... Al-Qaeda, making America safer, the War On Terrorism, WMDs..."
UH HUH... Next...
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Re:The Election's over...Saddam supported al-Qaeda. There's oodles of evidence for that. He even supported a terrorist training camp called Salman Pak that had an airplane where they trained terrorists to hijack airplanes. Sure, there is no non-refutable direct link, but you can't ignore all the amounting evidence.
More came out today, from The Telegraph:Iraq's coalition government claims that it has uncovered documentary proof that Mohammed Atta, the al-Qaeda mastermind of the September 11 attacks against the US, was trained in Baghdad by Abu Nidal, the notorious Palestinian terrorist. [...]
It's quite silly just to dismiss Saddam as having "no connection" to 9/11. How, exactly, do you know that? Are you saying you have better intelligence than the #1 Government in the world? Give me a break.
"We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda," he said. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."
Saddam was all cozy in his little kindom, not having any weapons of mass destruction or anything, and Bush decided to go after Iraq, not the other way around. He did it for many reasons: Oil, a distraction from internal scrutiny, a well known villain, but NOT because Saddam attacked America, because he never did.
Ooooooooooillllllll!! It's all about oil!! Our zionist, imperalist thirst for oil! That mantra is so sad it's now became cliche. Nevermind if Bush really wanted oil he could of just lifted the sanctions. Or how about that story from the NYTimes where Saddam offered Bush all his oil if he didn't attack, yet Bush still went forward with Operation Iraqi Freedom? Or why didn't we take Iraq's oil during the first Gulf War? Hmmm? -
Re:Not bad.
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RIAA v Porn Industry
There's an interesting interview with Blu Cantrell(might need reg.), in which she compares the RIAA to the porn industry. Basically, she has more respect for the porn side: "At least with the sex business they're gonna give you your money in your hand after you're done. The music business, you get screwed and you don't even get your money!"
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Amusing tale about currency conversion
As most people are aware, newspapers have a house style which dictates such matters as how dates are shown, whether to have a full stop after "Mr", and such-like details.
The Daily Telegraph house style dictates that, when an amount is given in a foreign currency, it should be followed by the equivalent in GBP, in brackets.
Sometime in the '70s, this led to a front-page photograph appearing with the caption:Mrs Elizabeth Taylor arriving at Heathrow Airport yesterday. She told waiting journalists, "I feel like a million dollars! (647,000 GBP)"
(Out of curiosity, does anyone know why
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Re:Biometrics' shortcomings
OK, so relate it to how normal passwords are stored - as checksums, or encrypted. Can you not md5 a fingerprint, keep the hash on the server, and just hash it at the reader each time?
If there is a new Personal Identifier then employers will need to store it to use in communication with various government departments e.g. the Inland Revenue.
Which numbers? Census data is not recieved from everyone (illegal or not).
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Re:Why oh why
Also why don't most normal American's a have a problem with Bush yet?
Because they have no compelling reason to. -
Re:James Bond
next there will be trouble in Russia
I think we can have that starting any minute now.
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Better artcile on this topicHere is a better article on this topic.
Are there any long-term heatlh hazards here? A derivative of carpel-tunnel?
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No Proven Dangers. At Least Not Yet.
According to an article originally published by The London Telegraph (online version here), The Burning Question, but which I read in Sydney Morning Herald on 23 October 2003, two separate studies have been unable to prove any ill-effects from following a high-protein diet. Both studies showed that the Atkins diet work. This somewhat distressing for one of them as it had been funded by the American HEart Association, a fierce critic of Atkins.
Being to lazy to sum up the article I paste the full text of the article (copied from SMH) here:
The Burning Question
October 23, 2003
Yet another study has shown that the Atkins diet works. But even the scientist in charge is baffled about why the low-carb regime reduces fat more effectively than conventional low-calorie, low-fat eating plans, Robert Matthews reports.
An academic nutritionist at the University of Cincinnati, Dr Bonnie Brehm, is at the cutting edge of research into the biggest question to hit her field in decades: does the Atkins diet work?
Most nutritionists faced with the torrent of anecdotal evidence for its effectiveness have simply parroted the mantra that more research is needed, while muttering darkly about possible long-term health effects.
Brehm and her colleagues, in contrast, have spent the past few years actually doing the research and will unveil their findings at the American Dietetic Association's annual meeting next week.
They have been studying the effectiveness of the Atkins diet in trials involving people classed as clinically obese, implying a weight of more than 92 kilograms (14 stone) in a person 175 centimetres (5 foot, 9 inches) tall. The latest results are in - and they appear to vindicate the late Dr Robert Atkins, whose diet books have sold 15 million copies over 30 years.
According to Brehm, those following Atkins's low-carbohydrate diet for four months achieved twice the weight loss of those on a conventional calorie-controlled, low-fat diet. Furthermore, the team found no evidence of harmful effects from following the diet - at least during the study.
These results are in line with those found in similar small studies now starting to emerge. As well as backing the claims made for the Atkins diet, these latest results seem to further undermine standard nutritional advice about the need to focus on cutting fat and calories.
They are something of an embarrassment to Brehm, whose research is funded by the American Heart Association, which has long advocated calorie-controlled, low-fat diets.
As a scientist, Brehm puts unearthing the truth above pleasing her paymasters - but it is this that causes most concern. She is having problems explaining her findings - and in the increasingly vociferous debate over the Atkins diet, that may well land her in trouble at next week's meeting.
The scientific world is becoming increasingly polarised over the diet, with researchers such as Brehm being given a tough time over their apparent support for what some scientists regard as the nutritional equivalent of crystal therapy. At the heart of the controversy is the science behind the Atkins diet - first published 30 years ago - and whether it is really anything more than a collection of buzzwords.
Conventional wisdom dictates that calories are the key to weight loss, and so those who lose weight must simply be consuming fewer calories than they burn up. Yet, according to Brehm, the obese people who lost weight on the Atkins diet ate and burned up essentially the same number of calories as those on the standard diet. What was very different was the proportion of body fat shed by each group, which mirrored their percentage weight loss. On the face of it, this backs the central claim of the Atkins diet: that a low-c -
Re:Nuke simulations?
That goes on the pile with those other questions like why do the US and Russia still have thousands of missiles pointed at each other a decade after the cold war thawed? Why is the nuclear briefcase still following the President around and why are missile pointed at Russia still ready to launch with 2 minutes notice? Wasn't there an issue a couple of years back where the Russian President activated his nuclear briefcase on what turned out to be a false alarm?
I guess if you're going to maintain a nuclear "deterrent", you have to keep it up to date. Especially if your government has a nuclear first-strike policy. The comprehensive no test ban means simulation is the only option left. -
Re:Ahh, ze smeel of ze monie...
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Re:Ancients conquered for profit
Iraq II is about money? You've been fooled by Bush & Co. pretty easily. Remember, Rumsfeld defends this fanatic.
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US general: God put Bush in chargeGod put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden
By David RennieThe general leading the hunt for Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein has publicly declared that the Christian God is "bigger" than Allah, who is a false "idol", and believes the war on terrorism is a fight with Satan, it emerged yesterday.
Investigative reporters from the Los Angeles Times and NBC television have dug up two years' worth of seemingly incendiary comments from Lt Gen William "Jerry" Boykin, the newly promoted deputy undersecretary of state of defence for intelligence.
Gen Boykin has repeatedly told Christian groups and prayer meetings that President George W Bush was chosen by God to lead the global fight against Satan.
He told one gathering: "Why is this man in the White House? The majority of Americans did not vote for him. He's in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this."
In January, he told Baptists in Florida about a victory over a Muslim warlord in Somalia, who had boasted that Allah would protect him from American capture. "I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real god and his was an idol," Gen Boykin said.
He also emerged from the conflict with a photograph of the Somalian capital Mogadishu bearing a strange dark mark. He has said this showed "the principalities of darkness. . . a demonic presence in that city that God revealed to me as the enemy".
On the Middle East, Gen Boykin told an Oregon church in June that America could not ignore its Judaeo-Christian roots. "Our religion came from Judaism and therefore [Islamic] radicals will hate us forever."
In the same month, Gen Boykin told an Oklahoma congregation that Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were not the enemy.
"Our enemy is a spiritual enemy because we are a nation of believers. . . His name is Satan."
The disclosures will doubtless be seized on by Muslim critics as proof that the US-led war on terrorism is a crusade against Islam. It is a charge that Mr Bush has worked hard to refute.
Though careful to respect minority religions within its ranks, the US military is strikingly devout from top to bottom. Mr Bush and several key figures in his administration are staunch Christian conservatives.
Few outside the Pentagon noticed when Gen Boykin, a 13-year member of Delta Force, the top-secret commando unit modelled on the SAS, was promoted this summer, with responsibility for speeding the flow of top-secret intelligence to commandos hunting bin Laden and other high-value targets.
At a routine press conference yesterday, Donald Rumsfeld, the normally confident defence secretary, appeared wrong-footed by the controversy. He hailed the general's "outstanding record" and said his comments were made "in his private capacity".
However, Mr Rumsfeld was careful to cite Mr Bush's injunctions against viewing Islam as the enemy.
Gen Boykin told NBC that he would be curtailing his speeches to religious groups. "I don't want to come across as a Right-wing radical," he said.
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Nobel winner to fight US terror rules
Perhaps the most interesting outcome of this years Nobel prize winners, is that:
"One of the two Americans who won yesterday's Nobel prize for chemistry said he might use some of his award money to help defend academic freedoms against restrictions imposed on scientists as part of the US war on terrorism." (news.telegraph)
Hurrah for those who still aspire to pure learning! The full article may be viewed here, if you're interested:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/ne ws/2003/10/09/wnobel09.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/10/09 /ixworld.html
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Re:Gore had most votes on all levels...
does "stupid white man" - michael moore mention how the leftist media announced gore the winner well before all polls in the state had closed? thought not. anything about the senior Leftist lying about, getting caught with and let off the hook for having a voting machine in one of those confused counties? didn't think so.
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Re:A truly sad day for us Europeans
As a Belgian, I know this... I am in favour of it even though I don't live in Belgium, France of German. There is another reason why it won't happen: international pressure .
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I wonder
users can ask their computers to retrieve all pictures that include a specific person's face
I wonder if they'll link to any of this pictures, when searching for this specific person's face:
http://www.areyadone.com/images/hated/bill-gates.j pg
http://users.cybercity.dk/~cfs4636/PIC/Bill%20Gate s%20-%20007.jpg
http://www.holub.com/goodies/images/Billborg.jpg
http://home.midsouth.rr.com/catcam/bill-gates-borg .gif
http://www.kewlcard.de/bilder/postcard/5/bill%20ga tes.jpg
http://www.rockhardplace.com/horror/images/ironmai den/eddie-bill%20gates.jpg
http://superwebon.iespana.es/superwebon/Archivos/B romas/Fotos/Humor%202/Bill%20Gates%20Feto.jpg
http://www.paulsjusticepage.com/images/cyborg.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/graphics/2002/09/ 24/cnforb24.jpg
http://ta.twi.tudelft.nl/DV/Staff/Lemmens/gates.jp g
http://images.ecampus.com/images/d/258/0312192258. gif
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'Hijacker' defies US court with cry to Allah
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Re:You fall in the same trap
* Where did all the UN Food for Oil money disppear to?
Food for oil, I don't see much money in that deal. No money can't disappear.
Well, you don't walk into a grocery store with 10 gallons of unleaded and trade it for food. Oil gets sold, money buys food, food goes to Iraq... or at least that's what was supposed to happen. The UN got a nice "administation" cut off the top, but no one seems to know exactly where those billions went. And as much as people like to point the finger at Haliburton and claim they're a bunch of war profiteers its interesting how no one brings up the TotalFinaElf scandals and their involvement in some very, very shading dealings in Iraq.
* How much business did France and Germany do with Iraq in violation of UN resolutions?
None that I know of. Of course I have seen a lot of this crap on public forums or frog-bashing sites. But no report of those on any remotely reliable source, not even on Fox News (only exception is an op'ed column by William Safire in the NYT, which allegations have been denied by the US administration itself). Given the unusually aggressive stance the Bush administration has taken against those countries, I guess that any credible lead on that subject would have been leaked to the press in no time.
See the TotalElfFina articles above. Plus, the Germans and the French were trading *a lot* with the Iraqi gov't in the late 90s. It would be interesting to see just how "liberal" their interpretations of the sanctions exactly were. I think its been underreported.
* How the "sactions are killing millions of Iraqi babies" stories were bogus.
Economic sanctions are a useful tool to destabilize a regime or prevent it from endangering its neighbours but you have to admit that the population ends up paying the highest price to them. It might eventually be worth the price (South African Apartheid regime) or not (Cuba comes to mind). In the case of Irak, I guess that the food for oil program somehow prevented the most severe famines but I don't know of hard facts. Do you have them?
This assumes that if there was no oil for food program there would have been "severe famines" which also seems to be a pretty unsubstaciated claim. What looks like what happened was Saddam hyped up and played the "starving" baby angle for all it was worth. The "food" he got for his oil didn't make it to the Iraqi people. If you average $5billion a year in aid and spend $13million on healthcare, that's a lot of money unaccounted for.
* How much of the Arab and some European press were getting paid by Saddam
Come on! You're not saying that any media that voiced opinions differing from the official White House point of view were sold to Saddam, are you?
Not at all. What I am saying is that there were reporters/editors in the Arab press who were getting money (commissions, bribes, call it what you want) from the Iraqi gov't to file reports that were sympathetic to Saddam. There was speculation that some European editor/reporters were pocketing cash. That, as far as I know, hasn't been proven, but the point of this entire /. article is about stuff that hasn't gotten a lot of attention. There's been no followup as far as I know.
And which countries do you target in "some European press". Given your post's general tone, I guess you include France and Germany. But what about Spain, England or Poland. Even thou -
stealing nothing is still stealing
the absence of any text in so many lines of code might not totally sink SCO's case. Perhaps their novel theories of IP violations are based on this recent situation.
copyrighting silence
Straight from the "Nothing surprises me anymore" department.