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Capacitors have problems, and will never rule.
One problem with capacitors is the charge is stored a lot like water in a tank. As you use water the water level drops, in any capacitor, as you use it the voltage drops.
The governing equation is Q = 0.5 *C*V*V.A single cell (in a battery of cells) is composed of two materials of different chemical states and they produce a constant voltage until one of the chemical states is depleted. Charging reverses this, again at a constant voltage. The charge and discharge voltages in a theoretically perfect cell are ~~ the same, in a real cell, resistance caused voltage drops and departures from irreversibility lead to differences in the charge discharge voltage. You must charge with a high voltage than you get on discharge.
A second problem, is the fact that a bulk material changes state in a cell, this inherently stores more charge than a capacitor, which is a surface layer of added charge. It is true that since the capacitor involves no change of state, that the life is more or less infinite, and because it is a monolayer of charge, you can charge and discharge at speeds limited only by the current limits of the wires.
The net result is the energy density of the best capacitors is barely as good as the worst batteries.
Battery graphs here http://tinyurl.com/autjb7l
Capacitor graphs here http://tinyurl.com/byqbdje
Direct comparisons here http://tinyurl.com/b9zwcdwAs long as you design a downstream voltage regulator to use the declining voltage to power your circuit at its required constant voltage, then ultracaps will find a niche in many pieces of equipment from Cars(as a peak acceleration source) to tiny items as the sole power
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Capacitors have problems, and will never rule.
One problem with capacitors is the charge is stored a lot like water in a tank. As you use water the water level drops, in any capacitor, as you use it the voltage drops.
The governing equation is Q = 0.5 *C*V*V.A single cell (in a battery of cells) is composed of two materials of different chemical states and they produce a constant voltage until one of the chemical states is depleted. Charging reverses this, again at a constant voltage. The charge and discharge voltages in a theoretically perfect cell are ~~ the same, in a real cell, resistance caused voltage drops and departures from irreversibility lead to differences in the charge discharge voltage. You must charge with a high voltage than you get on discharge.
A second problem, is the fact that a bulk material changes state in a cell, this inherently stores more charge than a capacitor, which is a surface layer of added charge. It is true that since the capacitor involves no change of state, that the life is more or less infinite, and because it is a monolayer of charge, you can charge and discharge at speeds limited only by the current limits of the wires.
The net result is the energy density of the best capacitors is barely as good as the worst batteries.
Battery graphs here http://tinyurl.com/autjb7l
Capacitor graphs here http://tinyurl.com/byqbdje
Direct comparisons here http://tinyurl.com/b9zwcdwAs long as you design a downstream voltage regulator to use the declining voltage to power your circuit at its required constant voltage, then ultracaps will find a niche in many pieces of equipment from Cars(as a peak acceleration source) to tiny items as the sole power
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Capacitors have problems, and will never rule.
One problem with capacitors is the charge is stored a lot like water in a tank. As you use water the water level drops, in any capacitor, as you use it the voltage drops.
The governing equation is Q = 0.5 *C*V*V.A single cell (in a battery of cells) is composed of two materials of different chemical states and they produce a constant voltage until one of the chemical states is depleted. Charging reverses this, again at a constant voltage. The charge and discharge voltages in a theoretically perfect cell are ~~ the same, in a real cell, resistance caused voltage drops and departures from irreversibility lead to differences in the charge discharge voltage. You must charge with a high voltage than you get on discharge.
A second problem, is the fact that a bulk material changes state in a cell, this inherently stores more charge than a capacitor, which is a surface layer of added charge. It is true that since the capacitor involves no change of state, that the life is more or less infinite, and because it is a monolayer of charge, you can charge and discharge at speeds limited only by the current limits of the wires.
The net result is the energy density of the best capacitors is barely as good as the worst batteries.
Battery graphs here http://tinyurl.com/autjb7l
Capacitor graphs here http://tinyurl.com/byqbdje
Direct comparisons here http://tinyurl.com/b9zwcdwAs long as you design a downstream voltage regulator to use the declining voltage to power your circuit at its required constant voltage, then ultracaps will find a niche in many pieces of equipment from Cars(as a peak acceleration source) to tiny items as the sole power
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Re:Big enough sample size
Why predict when you can just do?
Here is a totally hacked-together and very poorly written JS implementation. It'll constantly take 1000-sample surveys of a 315m population. The actual distribution of the population is printed at the top, and the results of the surveys are printed underneath, color-coded to make it easier to spot the results.
It's kinda slow and may well need a 64-bit browser, so I also made versions with 100m population size, 31.5m and 3.15m. If you're going to argue that those are too small a population size, then suck it up and wait for the 315m version to finish. You can always just fiddle with the values yourself by saving the page; the population and sample size variables are at the top. I only tested on Firefox 24.0a1.
(To anybody who reads this post after the above links break: sorry. Slashdot wouldn't let be inline the data: URIs, so I had to use tinyurl.)
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Re:Big enough sample size
Why predict when you can just do?
Here is a totally hacked-together and very poorly written JS implementation. It'll constantly take 1000-sample surveys of a 315m population. The actual distribution of the population is printed at the top, and the results of the surveys are printed underneath, color-coded to make it easier to spot the results.
It's kinda slow and may well need a 64-bit browser, so I also made versions with 100m population size, 31.5m and 3.15m. If you're going to argue that those are too small a population size, then suck it up and wait for the 315m version to finish. You can always just fiddle with the values yourself by saving the page; the population and sample size variables are at the top. I only tested on Firefox 24.0a1.
(To anybody who reads this post after the above links break: sorry. Slashdot wouldn't let be inline the data: URIs, so I had to use tinyurl.)
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Re:Big enough sample size
Why predict when you can just do?
Here is a totally hacked-together and very poorly written JS implementation. It'll constantly take 1000-sample surveys of a 315m population. The actual distribution of the population is printed at the top, and the results of the surveys are printed underneath, color-coded to make it easier to spot the results.
It's kinda slow and may well need a 64-bit browser, so I also made versions with 100m population size, 31.5m and 3.15m. If you're going to argue that those are too small a population size, then suck it up and wait for the 315m version to finish. You can always just fiddle with the values yourself by saving the page; the population and sample size variables are at the top. I only tested on Firefox 24.0a1.
(To anybody who reads this post after the above links break: sorry. Slashdot wouldn't let be inline the data: URIs, so I had to use tinyurl.)
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Re:Big enough sample size
Why predict when you can just do?
Here is a totally hacked-together and very poorly written JS implementation. It'll constantly take 1000-sample surveys of a 315m population. The actual distribution of the population is printed at the top, and the results of the surveys are printed underneath, color-coded to make it easier to spot the results.
It's kinda slow and may well need a 64-bit browser, so I also made versions with 100m population size, 31.5m and 3.15m. If you're going to argue that those are too small a population size, then suck it up and wait for the 315m version to finish. You can always just fiddle with the values yourself by saving the page; the population and sample size variables are at the top. I only tested on Firefox 24.0a1.
(To anybody who reads this post after the above links break: sorry. Slashdot wouldn't let be inline the data: URIs, so I had to use tinyurl.)
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evidence is everywhere
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Re:I won't be buying one...
Have you got cites for that? According to this site - http://tinyurl.com/83eqste (PoliceOne.com);
"There are no national statistics on how many times officers' guns are taken away. But the FBI says that of the 616 law enforcement officers killed on duty by criminals from 1994 through 2003, 52 were killed with their own weapon, amounting to 8 percent."
When the media reports any statistics on gun deaths, it is very common for suicides to be lumped in with homicides. Perhaps your numbers do the same - that is, it may be the case that 25% of officers who die from gun shots (including suicides) are killed by their own guns. Obviously, the electronic safeties wouldn't affect the suicide rate.
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Re:Hangin's too good for him
I think mother nature already gave him justice, google for his photo
LOL http://preview.tinyurl.com/cq3n546 it's the pirate flag that makes it work, should go over well in court as well
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Re:tell me again
For what it's worth, bombings are happening every day elsewhere in the world. But in the US, granted, it's an uncommon sight. Quite sad. (That it happened, not that it's uncommon!)
I was watching coverage of the Boston incident and the news ticker said "Explosions across Iraq leave 24 dead". But it's only brown people, right? The priority of those stories should have been reversed.
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Re:tell me again
People getting hurt in bomb explosions in USA are for everyone. Including a-hole nerds. If you are one this is for you.
For what it's worth, bombings are happening every day elsewhere in the world. But in the US, granted, it's an uncommon sight. Quite sad. (That it happened, not that it's uncommon!)
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Censorship
In Russia Wikipedia is giving up to the political pressure to remove or edit a page on Cannabis smoking (Russian version of the page).
I can't fully understand what exactly on that page provoked the government reaction, but apparently there are a number of pages that the Russian gov't is set against (suicide, methamphetamine, bong, amphetamine, The Complete Manual of Suicide - the page on a Japanese book).
In any case, the Russian government is engaged in censorship against Internet sites and other "extremist" materials, which include books, articles, music, images, etc.
Apparently too many people around the world just can't come to grips with the fact that trying to stop proliferation of information on the Net is a stupid idea, but hey, laws don't have to be intelligent. Intelligence is not a prerequisite for survival, apparently it's also not a prerequisite for governing.
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Re:Left wing bird cage liner
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Re:Depends on the bitrate
There's a world of difference, and you'll easily see if you listen to a song with the sufficiently rich sound: http://tinyurl.com/2dat5kt
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Re:More facetime
"Exactly, the woman was one of those "politically correct or die!" ultra radicals that frankly make a workplace into a shithole. " aka "Crusader" and they are dangerous because total annihilation is their point.
As for dongle jokes:
Infoworld 1999 Xircom "Lost the Dongle" advertisement .Whatever you do, don't point this out to Adria, it might send her into cardiac arrest.
It is unfortunate that good women are allowing the crusaders to take over but here is what it has come down to: These conferences are increasingly adopting feminist policies. Crusaders are increasingly involving themselves in the planning, policing and lectures at the conferences. As we saw here, a man lost his job for little more than making a tired joke that should have been forgotten the second it was made all because of the environment these women have created at these conferences. Is it worth the price of attendance to risk becoming the next target of one of these types?
For myself, the next time I am interested in attending a conference, I will look into where they pulled their "code of conduct" from, who organized it and who the speakers are. If I do decide to attend, I will be sure to avoid any women.
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Re:I am an American
Sometimes it's much harder to start a company, build your own products (e.g. xerox machines), establish a well known brand, then do the spy stuff:
http://www.editinternational.com/read.php?id=47ddf19823b89
http://tinyurl.com/a7b9jqlI doubt the CIA call up random companies. But as you can see they definitely do use existing established companies.
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Magnet link broken
So the magnet link was broken, but tinyurl supports magnets , because slashdot mangles magnetlinks.
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Re:Noisy annoying environment
Agree 100%!
I'm a Linux sysadmin/architect, and recently, within the span of one week, I turned down two different lucrative contract jobs with a big bank because they insisted I'd have to return to the commuter lifestyle and work on-site. The work environment would have been an open floor plan with what I call "dog bone" tables -- like this: http://tinyurl.com/bld6axu
My home office is a 25 x 20 foot room over my garage. I have a private bathroom, my own fridge, and my wife cooks my lunch. I don't pay for parking, dry cleaning, coffee at Starbucks, lunches in restaurants, etc. I don't burn all that fossil fuel driving back and forth 15 miles each way to work -- and that saves me money and helps the environment.
On top of all the other advantages, I'm also WAY more productive working from home. I can close my door and completely concentrate on what I'm doing. When you work with your mind, the last thing you want is to sit in a big open room with people walking around all day, chit-chatting, and asking "How about them Panthers?" while you're trying to focus.
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Sony Announces DualShock 4 and PS4 Eye
DualShock 4 will come with a built-in speaker and stereo headset jack, enabling PS4 users to enjoy high-fidelity sound effects of games from both the TV and also from the controller.PS4 Eye, a newly developed camera for PS4 integrates two high-sensitive cameras with wide-angle lenses with 85-degree diagonal angle views which can recognize the depth of space precisely. Read More......
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Re:GPU reset, Windows users should be so lucky
Wasn't it that the OS will reset the graphics driver, not the program?
Lots of dissent on my post some people have problems some don't.
I fixed the problem I was having by myself and google, the graphics driver
was never reported as a problem, just an entry in the EventViewer that BF3.exe had stopped working
I'd never of known why this specific error occurred if I hadn't of had that one .DMP file to debugged.A copy and paste of a portion of the debug output is how I found the site I referenced as that's
exactly how my debug output read.Never a blue screen because of it. Just stopped as mentioned above.
I've also never had that type of error again, since stopping the TDR.
Can't say that it's a fix all as others may have different problems
Google: bf3.exe has stopped working site:http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3 http://preview.tinyurl.com/bakgrpe -
I don't believe it.
16 months ago, Robert Zubrin wrote an essay exposing Obama's real intentions regarding NASA.
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Re:Right action, unscientific argument
Bingo. Perhaps it isn't one emperor or the other who has no new clothes on. Perhaps everybody in the room is simply buck naked.
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Re:These exceptions would legalize hacking in Cana
http://tinyurl.com/9wpxjg6 Page 11-12 (a) a program that is installed by or on behalf of a person to prevent, detect, investigate, or terminate activities that the person reasonably believes (i) present a risk or threatens the security, privacy, or unauthorized or fraudulent use, of a computer system, telecommunications facility, or network, Do you believe the RIAA poses a reasonable threat to your privacy from their new rootkits? Well then it seems, under this law, you could install a trojan horse on their computer, read their files, and then crash programs that might end up help the RIAA from violating your privacy...Like Windows
I think I like section (b):
(b) a program that is installed, by or on behalf of a person who provides services related to the operation of the Internet or another digital network or who operates a network including a telecommunications service provider for the purposes of network management;legalizing botnets... awesome.
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Re:Unlikely to be discontinued altogether
So, where are those bagless Sears vacuums, then?
Here are a few: http://tinyurl.com/a5hb39k
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These exceptions would legalize hacking in Canada
http://tinyurl.com/9wpxjg6 Page 11-12
These exceptions they are asking for are so very broad. Take a look this exception they're seeking,
(a) a program that is installed by or on behalf of a person to prevent, detect, investigate, or terminate activities that the person reasonably believes (i) present a risk or threatens the security, privacy, or unauthorized or fraudulent use, of a computer system, telecommunications facility, or network,
Do you believe the RIAA poses a reasonable threat to your privacy from their new rootkits? Well then it seems, under this law, you could install a trojan horse on their computer, read their files, and then crash programs that might end up help the RIAA from violating your privacy...Like Windows -
Prior art
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Re:Revive the lofstrom loop!
Chrome didn't like the site - warned me of likely malware: http://tinyurl.com/9wcoqrh
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Noise
I program better when I am in a quiet environment.
I have been amazed how hard it is to get work done in cube farms, especially when there are people nearby whose job it is to talk on the phone often.
A few gigs like that made me invest in these. They work as well as ear plugs but without the inconvenience of roll and stuff them:
http://tinyurl.com/cw33u3xThere is this popular article about research that shows that quiet and solitude boosts productivity, including for developers
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/opinion/sunday/the-rise-of-the-new-groupthink.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0If an org will not pay for real offices they should consider separating people with noisy jobs ( phone use ) from others and make some rules about noise levels
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"Me Too"
A hardboiled detective story set in Chicago in the early 2070s. Sex, drugs and robots.
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Re:blah blah Capitalism Evil blah blah
The US government isn't spending 40% of the GDP.
Yes it is. OECD lists US government spending as around 40% of GDP:
So does Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_spending
The numbers you're quoting our specific acts by individiual policies. There is a general baseline that the article doesn't cover but is neither here nor there at this point.
I pointed you to an article on fiscal multipliers; it provides both general ranges across all policies and specific values. If you want a nice discussion of aggregate impact of fiscal multipliers, look here:
http://www.voxeu.org/article/determining-size-fiscal-multiplier
Note that even in the best of cases, that rises only to about 1.6.
Here is a good discussion in the context of US policy:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123258618204604599.html
You've provided no data to support your ludicrously implausible claims. I think it's clear you don't really know what you're talking about.
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Re:sjobs@apple = Executive Relations
I have no idea if the practice continues under Apple's current Great Leader.
Apparently, it still is:
In a recent interview with Business Week, Tim Cook said the practice is still in-place and even mentioned that he feels privileged to communicate with Apple's customers in this way. Here is a link to the story:
http://tinyurl.com/azzzbhy (BusinessWeek via TinyURL)
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Re:Also called "multiple-tab syndrome"
mushrooms
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Re:But...
Even if you want to assume at some point a continent was called America centuries ago, []
Yes, centuries ago. Go figure. A map from 1507 where the label "America" is well entrenched in the South American part of the generally unexplored territory (hint: third row, first column, near the top), and there was a reason for that (hint: first row, third column, right at the top: the guy who charted the South American coast but never visited North America). Even in much more modern maps that do include most of the territories the label America is placed next to South America (but probably only for layout reasons).
Furthermore, even nowadays both the official sources as well as hundreds of millions of people still call the whole landmass "America".
(At this point I was going to quote several dictionaries and encyclopedias, but I realized that at the end you acknowledge that pretty much all of them include the landmass as a definition of "America" and most of them actually have it as the first definition.)
There is no continent America []
There are many definitions of "continent". Wikipedia does a fantastic job presenting the five most popular ones. It so happens that you grew up in a place where the version taught is (I suppose) the one with seven continents. But in most other countries the definition used is one of the other four. Note that in three of the five definitions "America" is a single continent.
and people (mainly Canadians) getting uppity about it only make themselves look ignorant.
Mainly Canadians and Latin Americans, with a total population of around 600 million, thus making around 2/3 of the population of America. Oh, sorry, of "The Americas". (And that is ignoring the tens of millions of Latin Americans and Canadians living in the USA). Sorry, dude, you are grossly outnumbered.
Refering to the North and South of America as one entity is generally called "The Americas" and not America
That's because people like you need a revisionist workaround after the fact that their country has an ill-conceived name.
and if you look in the dictionary you'll see it says America is also a name for the United States therefore it's perfectly valid to reference the US as America or its citizens as Americans. Some dictionaries also put the US as its first definition so in their mind it's the most common meaning.
I love how it becomes evident that only until this point did you look up the word "America" in the dictionaries and encyclopedias. You suddenly realized that your previous argument ("America is NOT the landmass") is fundamentally flawed and tried to change it to a new one ("America is ALSO the country").
Some don't and all that means is most people don't give a shit.
As I said, MOST people actually do give a shit. It just happens to be people that you don't talk to (at least not about this kind of topics).
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What's wrong with gorilla arms?
There's nothing wrong with gorilla arms! http://tinyurl.com/dancing-ballmer
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The World Doesn't Need More Children
Be part of the solution. If you have not had a family yet, limit yourself to 2 kids of your own and adopt the rest if you want more. If you already have a family, teach your kids not to have more than 2 of their own either. Current Population: http://tinyurl.com/currentpopulation 6.9 billion people World fertility rate for population replacement: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replacement_fertility 2.33 children per woman From: http://tinyurl.com/futurepopulation According to the United Nations, the global population could be as high as 11 billion in 2050 or as low as 8 billion, if the right programs are put in place now.
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The World Doesn't Need More Children
Be part of the solution. If you have not had a family yet, limit yourself to 2 kids of your own and adopt the rest if you want more. If you already have a family, teach your kids not to have more than 2 of their own either. Current Population: http://tinyurl.com/currentpopulation 6.9 billion people World fertility rate for population replacement: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replacement_fertility 2.33 children per woman From: http://tinyurl.com/futurepopulation According to the United Nations, the global population could be as high as 11 billion in 2050 or as low as 8 billion, if the right programs are put in place now.
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Pregnancy Complications
Pregnancy Complications http://tinyurl.com/chdrymy
........... Find facts and information on pregnancy complications are health problems that occur during pregnancy. They can involve the mother's health, the baby's health, or both. including gestational diabetes, stretchmarks, and morning sickness. -
Re:Pregnancy Complications
Pregnancy Complications http://tinyurl.com/chdrymy
...........Find facts and information on pregnancy complications are health problems that occur during pregnancy. They can involve the mother's health, the baby's health, or both. including gestational diabetes, stretchmarks, and morning sickness.You'r spamming slashdot with this! I think you have your demographics wrong. Now if you had a product for RSI caused by too much masturbation
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Pregnancy Complications
Pregnancy Complications http://tinyurl.com/chdrymy
...........Find facts and information on pregnancy complications are health problems that occur during pregnancy. They can involve the mother's health, the baby's health, or both. including gestational diabetes, stretchmarks, and morning sickness. -
Re:Weev is not an online activist.
Actuall there's some more facinating information about the case here
Sorry about the link, the site is behind a paywall, which I don't like
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Re:They Can use Samsung Chips Instead
Samsung is the biggest investment competitor to Intel in the chip market, right? [ http://tinyurl.com/samsungintel ] What does Apple need Intel for, give the guys at Samsung a call. What could go wrong?
Apple and Samsung are getting along so well these days... I'm sure the thought to buy chips from Samsung crossed a few minds at Apple.... NOT!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/07/net-us-apple-samsung-supply-idUSBRE88603A20120907
http://www.zdnet.com/samsung-to-stop-providing-lcds-to-apple-7000006182/
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They Can use Samsung Chips Instead
Samsung is the biggest investment competitor to Intel in the chip market, right? [ http://tinyurl.com/samsungintel ] What does Apple need Intel for, give the guys at Samsung a call. What could go wrong?
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Spaceballs: When will then be now? Soon.
I can picture the Taliban watching the back of their heads on a screen, like in the Mel Brooks film. "Prepare to fast forward!" http://tinyurl.com/cqbwm5y
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Re:We're for the free market.. until we're notI don't own any pirated anything, so from there you can figure out my real identity since as far as I can tell that class has exactly one member, myself.
But I could really give a shit when the people who should have good paying jobs but don't because of this and 1000 other machinations the rich and Congress unleash upon the average citizen resort to stealing the end products of Disney, of the record labels of the cable companies of Microsoft and all the rest of the knowing and calculating liars who practice class warfare on a mind bending scale. Sometime stealing IS a political act, even when the thieves aren't aware of it as being such.
If there's any doubt that the Romney's the Carly Fiorina's, the Bill Gateses and John Chambers (CISCO) of this world are rich because they write the laws the force us to play by, then have a listen to David Kay Johnson
It's pure class warfare. Most Americans hate the idea of waging class warfare. But like the over-amicable dodo bird , middle class Americans don't live in a world that shares their love of fairness and dedication to economic non-aggression. Quite the opposite, actually.
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Re:Looks like the AG actually read the law
Wrong. Minority's and people in poverty get intimidated all the time. Billboards intimidate people in those areas.
And since there is almost 0(ZERO) voting fraud in the US, what other reason is there to put billboard in places that will intemedate voters into not voting? what is the purpose of Voter ID laws when 11% of the population doesn't have ID? Why are they also exclusively in dem voting areas?
voter fraud by state:
http://tinyurl.com/9e2q7lmLet me know when thousands and thousands of people are dying when they vote. Until then, you are committing the Fallacy Fallacy.
http://www.theskepticsguide.org/resources/logicalfallacies.aspx
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Supremacy clause.
Abbot can stuff his dick back in his pants.
In Ware v. Hylton, 3 U.S. (3 Dall.) 199 (1796), the Supreme Court for the first time relied on the Supremacy Clause to strike down a state statute. The state of Virginia had passed a statute during the Revolutionary War allowing the state to confiscate debt payments by Virginia citizens to British creditors. The Supreme Court found that this Virginia statute was inconsistent with the Treaty of Paris with Britain, which protected the rights of British creditors. Relying on the Supremacy Clause, the Supreme Court held that the Treaty superseded the Virginia statute, and that it was the duty of the courts to declare the Virginia statute "null and void."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ware_v._Hylton
The case itself: http://preview.tinyurl.com/9es2mes (shortened, because it's a google books link)--
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Re:the maiming and killing must be ok with them
and a web search won't confirm it
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Re:Is this...
It's downfall was all the bitch and moaning about sonic booms over populated areas.
No, it's downfall was that, for the vast majority of people, Mach 0.74 in a 737 is fast enough for the price-point, and people with deep pockets would rather pay for luxury...
http://tinyurl.com/8tvmthd
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Re:Is this a joke?
Just because you see "penis-severing scissors" for sale at the store, doesn't mean you're required to buy them and use them.
Would this be what you're thinking of? http://tinyurl.com/9mqwnmf