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Re:Canonical will mail you a copy for free...
If you have a slow connection or you don't have a burner, you can get a pretty looking CD from Canonical by mail. They don't even charge for shipping.
Yes, however: "the delivery may take up to ten weeks"
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Re:It flew under the radar
I don't think they are paying for support. I think Canonical support costs more than $20.
Regular prices from Canonical are $250 (USD) for 9x5 (not sure what that's supposed to be, 9 hours per day, mon to fri ?) or $900 24x7. As quoted at http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
I suppose that a retailer could strike a support deal for lower prices but USD 20 seems to be a bit on the low side. -
Re:Great news!
The most important question for me before going to Best Buy to purchase is really how much of the proceeds go to the Ubuntu project. If it's 0 or a paltry sum (as I suspect) I'll go out of my way to tell people NOT to buy it from Best Buy. Preloaded on a computer, sure, but for anything else, get an Official Copy. Or, wait for a free CD from shipit and spend the money on an awesome T-shirt.
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Re:It flew under the radar
I'm picking up the sarcasm, but for what it's worth, Ubuntu do provide & ship CDs for free...
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Re:is it legal to sell it?
No, LTS means patch and update support for 5 years from the release date. And the bit about "paid support" is rubbish:
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
Please note that both LTS versions are freely available for download.
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Re:It flew under the radar
Then why would they have an entire site dedicated to it?
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Re:It flew under the radar
My bad, they put it back up! I cant believe they restarted that service!
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ for the link to get the disc free
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Re:It flew under the radar
One can get free professional ubuntu CDs from ShipIt. It does take close to a month to receive them though.
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Re:It flew under the radar
Moreover, who would buy something from BestBuy's website, when they can order the exact same thing -- for free -- from Ubuntu's website and wait just as long to get it? EVEN the "but I don't want to download it" argument makes no sense here, check it out:
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/login
This is just nuts. Does BestBuy get to (legally) make a profit on this, or do they at least donate the profit back to Ubuntu? -
Canonical will mail you a copy for free...
If you have a slow connection or you don't have a burner, you can get a pretty looking CD from Canonical by mail. They don't even charge for shipping. https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
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Re:is it legal to sell it?
I would assume that, since the blurb says it's "the latest Long Term Support version," it includes some form of long term support.
Despite what one may infer from the somewhat misleading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS , the "support" in Long Term Support (LTS) means that they will provide bug fixes and software updates for 3/5 years. It does not mean that you'll get direct professional support (e.g. actual tickets with an SLA, toll-free live-person support, etc).
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Re:Global Warming - why??
Start here:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/apt-buildThen build nagios3 from the Intrepid sources on your Hardy system. Then, if you still miss Gentoo, remove some random files from the system and spend a few hours trying to figure out what broke. Maybe have your neighbor come over and call you an idiot even though he also doesn't know what's wrong, so you can feel like you're in the Gentoo forums.
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Re:Good Stuff!Anyone know of an alternative to fill the role?
Yes. You can get a great replacement for free, right here. Just download their software and install it. I guarantee that you'll never have to worry about a virus, trojan or other malware again.
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Re:Zenburn
hmmm.. anonymous plagiary. Give a link next time buddy.
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SSL-Explorer
If you can't be sure yet what else you might need to export from this machine, in particular for access as a roadwarrior too (just terminals or also file shares to get data into and out of future projects, and possibly even forwarded access to further machines on the LAN?), 3SP's SSL-Explorer might be a good package comprising VNC, RDP etc., console prompts, network paths, web forwards (mostly through a Java helper that runs from many browsers), all encrypted as the name implies, and even more in in its commercial Enterprise Edition, which has a free trial for 2 users as well.
There had been a flurry of versions (all very usable indeed) and lively discussion up until RC19, with the project even proposed for inclusion into Ubuntu, but just before the final release, suddenly not much has been heard from the project since May anymore, and http://www.3sp.com/forums/forums/show/18.page (as well as the fact that http://www.sshtools.com/showSslExplorerCommunity.do now redirects to the commercial version) gets me a bit worried - does anyone have more recent news on this promising project? -
Re:Ooh! Oooh! I know!
A shiny, new laptop loaded with Vista, of course. He's earned it!
And a couple of accessories to go with it: A dongle that will allow him to install Mac OS X on said laptop, and an Ubuntu CD if he would rather go that route.
Don't think he wouldn't choose one of those options, because even he knows that Windows, in its current state, is unusable.
Bill sure did pick a good time to get out. I imagine when Windows 7 receives its inevitable bashing in the press, he'll be content just giving his money away, saving the world, one gift from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation at a time.
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Re:I would be curious...From Ubuntu Mobile and Embedded FAQ:
# What's the difference between UME packages and regular i386 packages?
- For the kernel there are a few changes to support the LPIA architecture better (TODO: check with Amit). For the user applications, they have a special rule to enable or disable resources when compiled for LPIA. We may use the hildon interface and/or disable something that we don't have/don't need. We want to improve usability for small screens and fingers.
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Re:You know...
And meanwhile the rest of us have switched to wearing much more comfortable jeans instead of slacks. As long as I'm going to have to switch, why not switch to something that's not as restrictive around the crotch?
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Re:Solution!
And Apple hasn't shipped a PPC box since 2006.
You're wrong anyway as Hardy is available for PPC: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/8.04/release/
Oh, you meant UbunUtu. Yeah, I haven't seen a PPC Ubunutu release in ages.
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feeds
News feeds:
IE Blog - for keeping track of what MS is up to on the browser front
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/atom.xmlStandards Blog - not as many posts now days, was very important during the height of the ooxml/odf war
http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/backend/geeklog.rssI keep OSNews for completeness, but it is pretty useless - software news
http://osnews.com/files/recent.xmlAnandtech - hardware news and reviews
http://www.anandtech.com/rss/articlefeed.aspxArs Technica - tech news and commentary
http://arstechnica.com/index.rssxPhoronix - linux graphics news and info
http://www.phoronix.com/rss.phpLinux Weekly News
http://lwn.net/headlines/rssKDE announcements
http://www.kde.org/dotkdeorg.rdfOpen Source Software Planets:
http://planet.debian.org/rss20.xml
http://planet.fedoraproject.org/atom.xml
http://planet.ubuntu.com/rss20.xml
http://planet.gnome.org/atom.xml
http://planetkde.org/rss20.xml
http://planet.freedesktop.org/rss20.xml
http://planet.mozilla.org/atom.xml
http://planet.jabber.org/atom.xml
mostly software releases and XEP updates
http://planet.jabber.org/news/atom.xmlhttp://maemo.org/news/planet-maemo/atom.xml
environment feeds:
Good Pacific Northwest environmental news
http://www.sightline.org/daily_score/rssBest environmental news and discussion on the web
http://www.worldchanging.com/index.xmlI keep Treehugger for completeness, but I mark 90% of their posts as read without looking at them.
Really too "light green/consumer green" for me
http://www.treehugger.com/index.xmlother feeds:
Dive into Mark - not what once was, but good enough to keep around
http://diveintomark.org/feed/Loooong posts on software
http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/atom.xmlBruce Scheier knows Alice and Bob's shared secret
http://www.schneier.com/blog/index.rdfThe intersection of Science (especially Evolution), Liberalism, Atheism, and Squid
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/index.xml"Your comment has too few characters per line" - what a load of bull. Taco, I know this and the timer are supposed to cut down on spam, but I think they annoy legitimate posters more than they reduce spam. You should really reconsider these "features".
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The Daily Planets
http://planet.gnome.org/
http://planet.mozilla.org/
http://planet.ubuntu.com/
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Re:Linpack? So does it run Linux?
Better question: Does Intrepid run Intrepid?
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Re:Downward spiral of hardware prices
You could try Ubuntu set up as a live usb drive with persistence. Not really sure how well it works, I only came across it when looking for a way to install Ubuntu from a USB drive so I didn't test the persistence feature, so I guess the updates may end up taking extra space where they don't on FaunOS. But for distros not fitting on a boot device, you can get 8GB and 16GB usb pendrives now which can easily accommodate a full install of pretty much any Linux distro.
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Re:MO2K7OXML, not Open XML
Yes, but while Windows became worse every year, GNU/Linux became better. You're invited to take a look at the latest Ubuntu Linux (8.04). It's fit now for multimedia and office purposes. I wrestled with various distros for a couple of years myself, but they're all getting better, all the time. (Fedora Linux is also definitely worth a look.) And then there's the BSDs, especially OpenBSD and FreeBSD, which have some of the packages from GNU/Linux in their ports collection. They're all very good Un*x systems. And let's not forget Solaris, OpenSolaris and AIX. And MacOS X, which based on BSD. After being called "dead" for more than 20 years, Un*x systems have not only made it to the desktop, are available for free for everyone, but are also ubiquitous in a way that could soon drown Windows out of the market. (cf. Gartner group studies about the future of Windows)
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Re:Aptitude?
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Re:8.04 Hardy Heron users got it today
Are you sure it wasn't RC1? http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/hardy-updates/firefox-3.0
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Ubuntu Brainstorm #9770 addresses this
There is an Ubuntu Brainstorm idea addressing this very thing, asking for Canonical to hire / fund an X.org developer (and a Gnome developer).
They have money, vote and support.
Read all about it here.Love or hate Ubuntu, they are quite a boon to Linux.
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Re:ASUS Eee PC
No idea about the webcam (friends have the webcamless ones) but the Ubuntu site[1] says it works out of the box, though not with flash (though the Ubuntu site also has a workaround for that).
The wifi requires you to download and build the madwifi driver, but it then works fine. Last I've heard, 8.10 should see it work out of the box.
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Re:Grr sidebar history
firefox 2 is in the hardy repositories.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox&searchon=names&suite=hardy§ion=all -
Re:Not available?Instructions for installing the packages can be found here : https://launchpad.net/netbook-remix Quoting from the article
: It is likely that we will, over time, make an ISO available, but it is less a market about displacement. If you want Ubuntu, and you want this device, you can simply go and buy it. Looking at : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Intrepid/Report/Platform#head-754034f06b81508d29d241478e49760403b42558 IMHO it's likely that eventually (intrepid?, intrepid+1?) you will be able to download a tool to make a netbook usb image. -
Why Ubuntu? They dropped PPC support
I don't get it. Ubuntu officially dropped PPC support last year.
So, why would Popular Mechanics recommend Ubuntu when you could download Yellow Dog Linux (for free as well from public mirrors), which is developed by the company hired by Sony to develop linux for the PS3. This sounds somewhat odd.
Disclaimer: I work for Terra Soft Solutions, so I've clearly got a bias here. -
PSUbuntu.com
There is an entire community dedicated to running Ubuntu on a PS3, at PSUbuntu.com. And you don't have to upgrade your HD from whatever size your PS3 came with, although of course it's easy and you can do it. The PS3 HW works right out of the box.
Right now is a good time to join the PSUbuntu.com community, because a new wave of developers on the ubuntu-cell maillist have just joined, and are uniting with the users at PSUbuntu.com to test and smooth out the PS3/Ubuntu distro.
And there is also a fairly new X/MPlayer driver that will render full 1080p HD video on the PS3's Cell CPU, that also needs just a little testing and integration.
What I really want to see is a PS3 running Ubuntu using the PlayTV PVR device that Sony is releasing this year. With Ubuntu running it, the PS3 could be quite the killer platform for all home entertainment.
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Re:Thing is, Vista sells more in a day than linuxBTW
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
They will ship you a Linux CD for free.
So no download, no compile, and if you really don't want to you don't even have to install it to use it. It will work as a live-CD.
Should be as easy to install as Vista if not more so. I hate to call this an asshole move, but I don't have a choice. Asking Canonical to send you a cd will cost them a pretty penny. Too many people do it and that's it for Ubuntu. If you do choose to have them send it, at the very least, make a donation. Or better yet, give them a donation and then download it via Bittorrent.
Obviously they wouldn't make this offer if it wasn't to be used, but only as a last resort. -
Re:Thing is, Vista sells more in a day than linux
Humm. I wonder. If you take all the Tivos, WAPs, Cellphones, and other embedded devices that come with Linux install on them you might actually beat Vista "Sales"
You might also beat Vista sales if you only count retail boxes of Vista vs sales of Linux :)
BTW
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
They will ship you a Linux CD for free.
So no download, no compile, and if you really don't want to you don't even have to install it to use it. It will work as a live-CD.
Should be as easy to install as Vista if not more so. -
Re:the name?
Are you saying that Gobuntu doesn't exist? Download it here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/gobuntu/releases/7.10/release/
or here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/gobuntu/daily/current/
Maybe part of your problem is that the FA is wrong. Mark Shuttleworth would not rather focus on gNewSense, but if the community is not interested in Canonical's Gobuntu work, then that community should go off and do their thing, and he will try to support them wherever it makes sense. In other words, if less collaboration is what they want, then that can be accommodated. -
Re:the name?
Are you saying that Gobuntu doesn't exist? Download it here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/gobuntu/releases/7.10/release/
or here:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/gobuntu/daily/current/
Maybe part of your problem is that the FA is wrong. Mark Shuttleworth would not rather focus on gNewSense, but if the community is not interested in Canonical's Gobuntu work, then that community should go off and do their thing, and he will try to support them wherever it makes sense. In other words, if less collaboration is what they want, then that can be accommodated. -
Re:Well, for one thing..Some also include fully legal DVD playback. Otherwise you're "supposed to" check with your local laws before loading up those libraries and codecs. Get it right next time.
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Re:physical access == game overYou can also use similar tricks to work around the vista Activation wizard to install drivers.
When vista says "activate now or die" .... then exit back and activate windows. Better yet, go activate your installation a better way. -
Re:Well, for one thing..
Some also include fully legal DVD playback. Otherwise you're supposed to check with your local laws before loading up those libraries and codecs.
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Re:Bad VistaHere's what I think MS needs to do to fix Windows: Sounds like you want this
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Re:I bought itSince I was getting a new hard drive to start fresh with anyways and I didn't want to use the restore discs, my choices were either spending a hundred bucks on an OEM XP disc (btw, I could never get my "genuine product key" to work with any install CDs I downloaded) or spend a hundred bucks for an OEM Vista Premium disc. You realize that you have another option, don't you?
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Re:Dislike Ubuntu
It appears that new approaches to init like upstart are trying to deal with these types of limitations. http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
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Re:What is it with Ubuntu
if you look at http://ubuntu.com/ versus http://debian.org/ you'll notice that one is quite pretty and modern, and the other looks like it fell out of a wormhole circa 1996.
Eh, the Ubuntu site looks like every other corporate site out there. I prefer the Debian site, but those blue button links could probably be a less jarring color. -
Re:What is it with Ubuntu
One of the things that's with Ubuntu is that it's the only group with a real sense of marketing. Granted, it's viral marketing, but if you look at http://ubuntu.com/ versus http://debian.org/ you'll notice that one is quite pretty and modern, and the other looks like it fell out of a wormhole circa 1996. I even tried talking about a site redesign on #debian on freenode once and got flamed by someone saying "why the hell should the look of a website matter?" Perhaps it somewhat matters because when I was a newbie and knew nothing about the merits of distros, I overlooked Debian as being a fairly amateurish distro because, well, its website looked amateurish. Yes, I know better now, but we should acknowledge at least a little that appearances do matter.
Of course, it's not just the website. Ubuntu also has an army of Diggers, and it's overall just a really easy distro to get started with when you know nothing about Linux, because the project has made appealing to that crowd one of its goals.
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Re:AgreedYou're right. Maybe they could be complete operating systems not nearly as vulnerable to attack through viruses and other malware.
:-D If it is created by man then man can break it. Can you make an Operating System that contain millions of lines of code 100% error free and 100% optimized?Also can you make it free from errors that may allow hackers to exploit code remotely?
Tell me you can, then create it. You would be a millionaire over night. You would also have more time as you wouldnt need to patch it because it would be the perfect operating system. -
Re:Agreed
You're right. Maybe they could be complete operating systems not nearly as vulnerable to attack through viruses and other malware.
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Didn't someone else already invent this ?
I'm certain I've heard of proactive virus protection before
... but where ?
AH ! Now I remember !
http://www.ubuntu.com/
Clearly prior art. -
Re:Rationale for new packaging system?
I can't tell an RPM that I want to build Gnucash with HBCI support. Or that I want ImageMagick without support for JBIG images.
Yes, you can. If you think that you can't, you don't know enough about RPM. Go back and read the docs. Seriously.
Now, granted, you're going to have to build your source RPMs in a way to make that work (you're not going to do that with unmodified source RPMs from Fedora or OpenSUSE, for instance), but it is possible. Furthermore, DEB packages support something very similar to SLOTs. Again, try reading the docs.For example, several package contain optional X11 interfaces. I don't know if Debian etc. put that into a separate foo-x11 package, but if they don't you automatically have to install X11 just to install foo because you could at some point need X11 to use all of foo's capabilities.
There is usually a 'nox' binary package. For example, emacs22-nox, vim-nox, etc. But I'm not talking about binary packages, I'm talking about source packages. The emacs and emacs-nox packages are built from the same source package. Again, most Gentoo users' lack of knowledge about RPM and DEB is astonishing.
What I'm saying is that RPM and DEB can be used to make a source-based distro. There really is no need for a new package system, especially when two very good ones already exist. -
Re:The Last Straw.
> I am pleased that there are alternatives at last, be it Apple or a future Linux that will be more innovative and user friendly by the time my current hardware dies.
Why wait that long? Download a Linux distro today and setup a dual boot system. Spend some time just looking around, figuring out what you need to make the migration. Take your time, and do a smooth transition.
Here's some free links for you:
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora
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Re:How fast will a hack appear for this ?
In fact I would be surprised that the hack is already out there
It is, the fix is here.