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Re:Yes, let's ignore 3Million+ alien abduction cas
One day, scientists and their followers will feel like complete idiots, when it becomes obvious aliens have been here all along.
Citation#1: US presidents have known about UFOs here on Earth, even seen them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...Citation#2: If 200+ NASA, Ex-Military, Ex-US government high ranking employees coming forth and willing to testify before congress isn't enough for you, then your mind is too closed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Citation#3: How many pilot witnesses with radar evidence to back it up does it take before you belive that UFOs are real and here on Earth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...Citation#4: Is 3 Million alien abductions in the USA alone enough evidence for you, or are you waiting around for a nice round number like 10 million?
http://www.ufoevidence.org/top...Right. Now, do you want a tissue to wipe your foaming mouth?
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Yes, let's ignore 3Million+ alien abduction cases
One day, scientists and their followers will feel like complete idiots, when it becomes obvious aliens have been here all along.
Citation#1: US presidents have known about UFOs here on Earth, even seen them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...Citation#2: If 200+ NASA, Ex-Military, Ex-US government high ranking employees coming forth and willing to testify before congress isn't enough for you, then your mind is too closed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Citation#3: How many pilot witnesses with radar evidence to back it up does it take before you belive that UFOs are real and here on Earth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...Citation#4: Is 3 Million alien abductions in the USA alone enough evidence for you, or are you waiting around for a nice round number like 10 million?
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ce ne sont pas un troll
PHAH!
Pilots can't tell the planet Venus from a UFO, even when clearly marked. Granted, this presupposes the pilot knew "Arabic" for that bit of Looney Tunes ontological camouflage to work
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Re:MUFON is not respected.
A quick read about the null hypothesis will help you dealing with these "science" trolls. The null hypothesis is the basis of scientific inquiry. Read up and you can formulate a null hypothesis for evaluating UFO phenomena as examples of extraterrestrial visitors. That should make everything clear to these "science" trolls - you can speak their language then and properly defend ufology. Devise a correct null hypothesis and then you'll be able to articulate how the evidence supports alien presence in a way that these trolls can't refute. That's how science really works....
Be careful though... there are those who don't fully get what the null hypothesis means and try to apply the language without understanding it.
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Evidence is here
The evidence for a foreign intelligence is here on earth. This evidence is overwhelming. Yes, there is no "hard evidence", but still: Everyone who has done deep *scientific* investigation of the UFO phenomenon won't deny the fact that there is a foreign intelligence on earth.
Documents
- Project Sign (USA, 1947–1949)
- 'Flying Saucer' Working Party part 1, part 2, part 3, part 4, part 5, part 6 (GB, 1950–1951)
- Project Blue Book (USA, 1951–1969)
- Condon Report (USA, 1969)
- Project Hessdalen 1984 - Final Technical Report (N, 1983)
- Project EMBLA: A Long-Term Scientific Survey of the Hessdalen Phenomenon. (I, 2004)
- Project Condign (GB, 1996–2000)
- Sturrock Panel Report (USA, 1997; PDF file; 572kB)
- COMETA Report part 1 / part 2 (F, 1999)
- Video: Press conference Disclosure Project“ (USA, 2001)
- Video: Press conference Neue Untersuchung des UFO Phänomens“ (USA, 2007)
If you haven't read those papers, please don't assert to know that UFOs (as in "foreign intelligence") don't exist.
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Evidence is here
The evidence for a foreign intelligence is here on earth. This evidence is overwhelming. Yes, there is no "hard evidence", but still: Everyone who has done deep *scientific* investigation of the UFO phenomenon won't deny the fact that there is a foreign intelligence on earth.
Documents
- Project Sign (USA, 1947–1949)
- 'Flying Saucer' Working Party part 1, part 2, part 3, part 4, part 5, part 6 (GB, 1950–1951)
- Project Blue Book (USA, 1951–1969)
- Condon Report (USA, 1969)
- Project Hessdalen 1984 - Final Technical Report (N, 1983)
- Project EMBLA: A Long-Term Scientific Survey of the Hessdalen Phenomenon. (I, 2004)
- Project Condign (GB, 1996–2000)
- Sturrock Panel Report (USA, 1997; PDF file; 572kB)
- COMETA Report part 1 / part 2 (F, 1999)
- Video: Press conference Disclosure Project“ (USA, 2001)
- Video: Press conference Neue Untersuchung des UFO Phänomens“ (USA, 2007)
If you haven't read those papers, please don't assert to know that UFOs (as in "foreign intelligence") don't exist.
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Evidence is here
There is already enough evidence for a foreign intelligence, here on earth. Yes, it is no so-called "hard evidence", but in its entirety the evidences are just overwhelming.
You want to see it? There you go:
But before you say that all UFOs can or could be explained as natural phenomenons or secret aircrafts or any other explanation besides a foreign intelligence, you really should read these documents. I don't know anybody who has read them and still says "UFOs (as in "foreign intelligence") are not real". Every person who did deep scientific investigation into the UFO phenomenon comes to the conclusion that there must be a foreign intelligence behind some of the mass of UFO cases.
Documents:
- Project Sign (USA, 1947–1949)
- 'Flying Saucer' Working Party Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6 (GB, 1950–1951)
- Project Blue Book (USA, 1951–1969)
- Condon Report (USA, 1969)
- Project Hessdalen 1984 - Final Technical Report (N, 1983)
- Project EMBLA: A Long-Term Scientific Survey of the Hessdalen Phenomenon. (I, 2004)
- Project Condign (GB, 1996–2000)
- Sturrock Panel Report (USA, 1997; PDF-Datei; 572kB)
- COMETA Report Part 1 / Part 2 (F, 1999)
- Video: Press conference Disclosure Project“ (USA, 2001)
- Video: Press conference Neue Untersuchung des UFO Phänomens“ (USA, 2007)
Archives and data bases
- The Roswell Files - page about Roswell with some government documents
- UFO Evidence - Collection of documents and articles
- The Prufos Police Database - database with UFO sightings of british police officers
- The Black Vault/UFOs – collection with the help of FOIA documents
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Evidence is here
There is already enough evidence for a foreign intelligence, here on earth. Yes, it is no so-called "hard evidence", but in its entirety the evidences are just overwhelming.
You want to see it? There you go:
But before you say that all UFOs can or could be explained as natural phenomenons or secret aircrafts or any other explanation besides a foreign intelligence, you really should read these documents. I don't know anybody who has read them and still says "UFOs (as in "foreign intelligence") are not real". Every person who did deep scientific investigation into the UFO phenomenon comes to the conclusion that there must be a foreign intelligence behind some of the mass of UFO cases.
Documents:
- Project Sign (USA, 1947–1949)
- 'Flying Saucer' Working Party Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6 (GB, 1950–1951)
- Project Blue Book (USA, 1951–1969)
- Condon Report (USA, 1969)
- Project Hessdalen 1984 - Final Technical Report (N, 1983)
- Project EMBLA: A Long-Term Scientific Survey of the Hessdalen Phenomenon. (I, 2004)
- Project Condign (GB, 1996–2000)
- Sturrock Panel Report (USA, 1997; PDF-Datei; 572kB)
- COMETA Report Part 1 / Part 2 (F, 1999)
- Video: Press conference Disclosure Project“ (USA, 2001)
- Video: Press conference Neue Untersuchung des UFO Phänomens“ (USA, 2007)
Archives and data bases
- The Roswell Files - page about Roswell with some government documents
- UFO Evidence - Collection of documents and articles
- The Prufos Police Database - database with UFO sightings of british police officers
- The Black Vault/UFOs – collection with the help of FOIA documents
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Evidence is here
There is already enough evidence for a foreign intelligence, here on earth. Yes, it is no so-called "hard evidence", but in its entirety the evidences are just overwhelming.
You want to see it? There you go:
But before you say that all UFOs can or could be explained as natural phenomenons or secret aircrafts or any other explanation besides a foreign intelligence, you really should read these documents. I don't know anybody who has read them and still says "UFOs (as in "foreign intelligence") are not real". Every person who did deep scientific investigation into the UFO phenomenon comes to the conclusion that there must be a foreign intelligence behind some of the mass of UFO cases.
Documents:
- Project Sign (USA, 1947–1949)
- 'Flying Saucer' Working Party Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6 (GB, 1950–1951)
- Project Blue Book (USA, 1951–1969)
- Condon Report (USA, 1969)
- Project Hessdalen 1984 - Final Technical Report (N, 1983)
- Project EMBLA: A Long-Term Scientific Survey of the Hessdalen Phenomenon. (I, 2004)
- Project Condign (GB, 1996–2000)
- Sturrock Panel Report (USA, 1997; PDF-Datei; 572kB)
- COMETA Report Part 1 / Part 2 (F, 1999)
- Video: Press conference Disclosure Project“ (USA, 2001)
- Video: Press conference Neue Untersuchung des UFO Phänomens“ (USA, 2007)
Archives and data bases
- The Roswell Files - page about Roswell with some government documents
- UFO Evidence - Collection of documents and articles
- The Prufos Police Database - database with UFO sightings of british police officers
- The Black Vault/UFOs – collection with the help of FOIA documents
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Re:Written Before Christianity Was PAGANIZED
It's the wonders of leading a cult.
If you're telling the truth, you'll follow it to any end.
If you're lying, you'll say it so many times that even you will believe it, and follow it to any end.
If you're lying and don't believe it, your choices are to follow it, or be killed by your followers when they find out that you lied to them, so you follow it to any end.
You can't use a document as proof that the document is correct. Just because it says it in the bible doesn't mean that what it says in the bible is true. Before you come back with "there is plenty of proof.", provide the citations. Anything that predates the original book in question. We're still discussing a book where the oldest copy available was an nth generation hand copied version made at least a few hundred years after the events took place. This copy shows that the "modern" copy being used is wrong, and has been edited countless times to fit particular agendas.
If I were to write a book on the happenings of King Charles the VIII of France (arbitrary real person from history) now, based on what I may have found pieced together from other papers that were hand copied versions over hundreds of years, and stories passed down verbally through generations, do you think that account is going to be accurate? Hell, there are written witness accounts of a UFO battle over Germany in 1561, a 1680 French coin showing a UFO flying over the city, and
... well, others too.. There's more corroboration for those events that were recorded at least at a time close to the original event, and not hand copied over n-generations. Not that I believe most of the crap I read on the Internet, but you have to look at what is written and decide if the author knew what he was talking about. I provided those citations for a specific reason, which hopefully you'll understand. -
Cause & Effect
it is career suicide to have your name associated with UFOs
Not career suicide, just a hilariously pointless hobby like squirrel eating
... or Warcraft.
Something that's always bothered me about Alien sightings and 'abductions' is that the sightings really didn't kick off until 1897 which coincides closely with the release of the War of the Worlds. And, interestingly enough, alien abductions didn't really take off until the 1960s when movies about abductions had been in circulation since the 50s (as any devout MST3K fan knows).
Aside from a few odd reportings (and maybe a few religions) the above holds true.
We are human beings, we have awesome imaginations and a multitude of chemicals that effect them. I don't know what it's like to be coked out in an opium den or suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning but I think a lot of UFO stuff is pretty much a direct result of the human psyche, not extraterrestrials. -
Re:Demon haunted world
But you'd also expect to hear stories like this, if there weren't flying saucers.
The testimony isn't in itself enough to distinguish between the two states.
Hmmm.. yes and no. I definitely understand your point but personally I would not expect stories like these from these kind of people. I know this still testimony, but they've got a lot to loose given their status, reputation, background, etc.
Also, some of them do have material like RADAR logs, etc. which support their stories.
Am I totally 100% convinced? Hmm, no.. but I am leaning towards it because, as I mentioned, these people are willing to testify under oath before Congress.. so I assume they have a pretty good case together.
Let me also give it another perspective:
If all these people testified against me in a court case for a serious crime, I am quite likely to get the death penalty. (assuming that's possible in the given state, etc. etc.)
If it's good enough to rule over life and death, it's good enough for me to lean towards proof.
Finally:
I list names here, but there's some very intriguing physical evidence in the form of RADAR logs, but also e.g. radiation measurements made at locations where objects have supposedly landed.
If one took the time to bring all the evidence together in a serious, scientific report, one can arrive at the point of having an extremely solid case.
If I recall correctly from a few days ago, the following website had a nice collection of papers describing all kinds of evidence. I cannot get it to load at the moment, but here's the link:
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Re:Or an insider with knowledge you lack
Other astronauts who don't have any experiences with this phenomenon?
Ahem, you better read some of the following stuff then:
Astronaut Sightings http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/Astronauts.htm
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it's really a conspiracy
People, I can't believe we're making light of this. We could instead ignore or horribly misinterpret conspicuous evidence, fabricate our own, claim the mainstream is oppressing us out of blindness or malice, and delude ourselves by thinking we're applying skepticism and that others are calling their dogmatic beliefs 'skepticism'!
It's obviously caused by chemicals sprayed from passenger aircraft to control the populace!
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/
Everything mysterious is caused by the entrenched, all-powerful government's efforts to control every resident human with chemicals.
It's just another glaring piece of proof that everything in the universe is electromagnetic, including stars, comets, and gravity at least plus probably the other two forces as well.
http://www.kronia.com/
Everything mysterious is explained by the entrenched misunderstanding of fundamental science as non-electrical by mainstream academia.
It's just further evidence of alien presence on Earth!
http://www.ufoevidence.org/
Everything mysterious is caused by aliens meddling with and experimenting on humans on our critically important and conspicuous speck of a world.
Come on people! It's time to listen to your fancy and your fear. Stop being rational and skeptical, but still claim you're just being extra-special skeptical. Remember: the other 6 billion humans are just misguided and backward, but your greater intellect saves you from the panic that would grip their feeble minds if they beheld the awesome truth. You'll show them the light because you're just so benevolent, and only you can gently break through to their child-like worlds of fantasy, superstition, and darkness. Truth seekers unite! -
Re:Disclosure ProjectFrance has released its 'cometa' report: http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/Cometa.htm
In 1999 an important document was published in France entitled, UFOs and Defense: What must we be prepared for? ("Les Ovni Et La Defense: A quoi doit-on se préparer?"). This ninety-page report is the result of an in-depth study of UFOs, covering many aspects of the subject, especially questions of national defense. The study was carried out over several years by an independent group of former "auditors" at the Institute of Advanced Studies for National Defense, or IHEDN, and by qualified experts from various fields. Before its public release, it has been sent to French President Jacques Chirac and to Prime Minister Lionel Jospin. The report is prefaced by General Bernard Norlain of the Air Force, former Director of IHEDN, and it begins with a preamble by André Lebeau, former President of the National Center for Space Studies (Centre National D'études Spatiales), or CNES, the French equivalent of NASA. The group itself, collective author of the report, is an association of experts, many of whom are or have been auditors of IHEDN, and it is presided over by General Denis Letty of the Air Force, former auditor (FA) of IHEDN.
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Re:its a matter of point of view
You might want to look at the Drake equation
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Re:How many people really believe in these things?
I've never seen this site referenced here, so I'll post: http://www.ufoevidence.org/ If even a small percentage of the most credible accounts here are true, then the Earth has been regularly visited by unknown entities for a long time. Yes, there are a LOT of mistaken observations, hoaxes, etc. But it is also true that the HUGE number of highly credible reports (Pilots, police, first responders, educated, articulate people, etc) in databases like these indicates that something beyond the capabilities of human tech is going on.
...and just because Coelacanths were unknown to official science until the mid 20th century, does not mean they didn't exist. -
No evidence??
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They were right!From TFA under predictions: UFOs will make contact with the Internet.
They were right!
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BAD link - full copies of the COMETA Report
The link I gave is a summary of the report, which I didn't realize because I googled it looking for the best copy. Well, I was wrong. Here is the full report (and apologies), both pdfs:
COMETA Part 1: http://www.ufoevidence.org/newsite/files/COMETA_pa rt1.pdf
COMETA Part 2: http://www.ufoevidence.org/newsite/files/COMETA_pa rt2.pdf
(Please note that I am not connected with ufoevidence.org and know nothing about the site). -
BAD link - full copies of the COMETA Report
The link I gave is a summary of the report, which I didn't realize because I googled it looking for the best copy. Well, I was wrong. Here is the full report (and apologies), both pdfs:
COMETA Part 1: http://www.ufoevidence.org/newsite/files/COMETA_pa rt1.pdf
COMETA Part 2: http://www.ufoevidence.org/newsite/files/COMETA_pa rt2.pdf
(Please note that I am not connected with ufoevidence.org and know nothing about the site). -
Re:Wtf
I like the premise, but I think the metaphor is wrong: there is no actual debt, and in now way does being in prison function as repayment. Aside from other philosophical issues around the meaning of justice, individuals that demonstrate that they are a danger to society must be segregated from society at least until (arguably, only until) they are no longer a danger to society. The idea that someone presents such a danger that they need to be tracked suggests they are too dangerous to be "out." The theoretical streaker is unlikely to present any danger to society, whereas an unrepentant serial rapist with multiple prior convictions probably shouldn't be let out again, or at least until there's some plausible developments in psychiatry. But the same holds true for violent criminals, so clearly sex crimes are singled out solely for their prurient interest, by providing an opportunity to gratuitously describe sex in an offensive way that winds up voters but is without any political or legislative merit, which sounds a lot like a sex crime itself to me...
On balance though, we should be grateful for Lawrence & garner v. State of Texas. It would be a great help to pass a constitutional amendment barring laws that dictate the private behavior of consenting adults. Ask your legislators.
As the "Won't somebody please think of the children" subject alludes, the Simpsons have effectively commented on bogeyman politics, in particular with the bear patrol episode. It's just transparent pandering, creating a false fear and exploiting it; and all the better that the subject be indefensible, though simply defenseless will also work when all the good ones are taken. Sex criminals will always be an easy target, but once that bandwagon has left the station (again), it's time to attack immigrants (poor Groundskeeper Willie), or Albania, or homosexuals, or whatever.
The best thing about this sort of moralist pandering and posturing is that politicians are just as morally complex as everyone else and their utter humiliation is a nice reward for the harm they do, so we should all thank Limbaugh, Haggard, Barnes, Bakker, etc for the joy they've given us. -
Inteligent Life
"There could be sentient being living there. Odds are 50/50 they have more advanced technology than we do. If they can travel at near light speed, they could arrive here 82+ years after we started beaming massive amounts of radio and tv into space, which would be soon. Maybe we should prepare a "reception" for them or something."
I totally agree here, it has not been maybe 100 years or so ( correct me if i am wrong ) that humans started using radio waves for communication, these radio waves do not travel at the speed of light, so if there are other inteligent life forms ( which i belive there is ) that probably havent picked up our signals yet since it probably havent reach them yet, So sooner or later one of these folks going to pick up American Idol on their receivers and come to check us out. I really hope it will happen soon or has it already ( http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/photohome.a sp ) -
Re:And if you are lonely this holiday season...
Wasn't that released years ago?
(Well, let's say the parts they wanted to release were released years ago...)
Check here: http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/ProjectBlueBook. htm/
Comprehensive Catalog of 1,500 Project BLUE BOOK UFO Unknowns (Version 1.1)(PDF Warning)
Project Blue Book Archive (URL:http://www.bluebookarchive.org//>
The Project Blue Book Archive is a new web-site which will provide free online access to the National Archives Blue Book microfilm collection, and has so far posted about 10% of the Blue Book microfilm. The Blue Book Archive provides a fully searchable interface to high-resolution document scans relating to the US government's investigation of the UFO phenomena. Also available are high-quality CD-ROMs of the microfilms, which can be purchased directly from the website. -
Re:Oppenheimer on ancient nuclear war and other st
Its my pleasure...check this.
And since we are trading links have you read COMETA?
"In 1999 an important document was published in France entitled, UFOs and Defense: What must we be prepared for? ("Les Ovni Et La Defense: A quoi doit-on se préparer?"). This ninety-page report is the result of an in-depth study of UFOs, covering many aspects of the subject, especially questions of national defense. The study was carried out over several years by an independent group of former "auditors" at the Institute of Advanced Studies for National Defense, or IHEDN, and by qualified experts from various fields. Before its public release, it has been sent to French President Jacques Chirac and to Prime Minister Lionel Jospin. The report is prefaced by General Bernard Norlain of the Air Force, former Director of IHEDN, and it begins with a preamble by André Lebeau, former President of the National Center for Space Studies (Centre National D'études Spatiales), or CNES, the French equivalent of NASA. The group itself, collective author of the report, is an association of experts, many of whom are or have been auditors of IHEDN, and it is presided over by General Denis Letty of the Air Force, former auditor (FA) of IHEDN."
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After you have wiped the froth from your mouth...
...go and read the Cometa Report Part 1 and part 2. (two PDFs) in their entirety.
Not preparing for this inevitable event is like not shoring up the levees or not building an underground bolt-hole when you live in Tornado Alley. -
Re:UFO cover-up
Yes, it's obvious that this secret was not kept due to all the evidence that we have:
- http://www.ufoevidence.org/
- http://www.disclosureproject.org/
- http://www.mufon.com/
There are radar tapes, cases of jets being scambled, physical evidence, etc. That this has been denied does not make the issue go away. -
Can you say "invented"?From another article on the same subject:
Some funding for the experiment came from the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)
Yeah. I'm betting that "some" of the tech used came from the same source as well. I mean, if it's been proven [tt] that transistors couldn't have been invented the all of a sudden way they were in 1947 (or even using today's technology), then how are they expecting us to believe that this new tech isn't reverse-engineered UFO tech? We're currently still miles away from acheiving anything in quantum computing, and now we're suddenly expected to believe that HP has this kind of working tech? Give me a break.
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Re:Gordon Cooper and the existence of UFOs
The existence and anomalous nature of these craft has been known to anyone who has dared to think outside the box and recognize valid testimony (albeit unusual) for almost 60 years.
It has been testified to by countless (hundreds in fact) military officials and government authorities. The Air Force itself admitted that many craft sighted were not it's own even though they performed extremely complex aeronautical maneuevers. Please go here or here, or here if you would like to do further reading.
In case there is any question, no I am not wearing a tinfoil hat. Yes I am an aerospace engineer. -
Of course there's a flying saucer connection
And with the obligatory uber-nerd Coast to Coast AM/Carl Sagan connection: one of the things that would provide persuasive evidence of a UFO crash would be debris composed in whole or in part of element(s) from the Island of Stability
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Re:But why from the WHouse?Sigh. You're not paying attention. There are lots of implementations, if you prefer that word, of Times New Roman out there. Microsoft's is the one that was used in these memos, as identified positively this morning by forensic expert Dr. Philip Bouffard.
I can only find one other case in which Dr Philip Bouffard has provided advice concerning a typewriter font on the net. It involves wierd UFO shit and Bouffard appears to be supporting the claims made by the UFO believers.
Bouffard is mentioned in a number of places in connection with a classification scheme for 4,500 typewriter typefaces. This is not actually a very large number and the system does not appear to be widely used or for that matter used outside Australia. The databases used by the FBI and most international law enforcement agencies list over 80,000 typewriter faces.
The biggest reason to doubt the bouffard claims is that the gif image that has been posted is of such a miserable resolution that it is impossible to see what is going on at all. If the claims had any weight then a better image would be provided.
I do not even agree that the font is definitely Times Roman and it is certainly impossible to make any statement about Kerning given the original resolution on the CBS site. The WH copies are even worse having been faxed in between.
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already hereBased on extensive information that is available, much published by our own Government, they are already here: You be the judge