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Slashdot reads like a left-wing propaganda site these days.

Today's stories include "How you're stupid if you question any vaccine on any level, how using the scientific method to question any aspect of climate change makes you unscientific, ten reasons why you should kneel before Apple and Tim Cook, and the patriarchy - how it's still real, and despite proof that the legal system and the culture in general favor women you need to accept it's because you're the patriarchy, you're evil, and it's your fault for possessing a penis!"

Right now? Probably not a hell of a lot unless you live in California or the southeast US.

Actually, I live in Madison, WI, and climate change is impacting me.

As part of climate change, we are seeing increased rainfalls, including more incidents of extreme precipitation. In town, we've had 2 examples of "100-year" floods in the past 10 years.

The Sahara is greening. That's because it's getting wetter. Yes, the desert is getting wetter! California is back up over normal snowpack levels, and the Midwest has a general increasing trend of precipitation. Pretty much everything you said was just proven wrong...

Her lawyer said her "client was sorry and had since required hospitalisation for mental health problems". (I find the criminal justice system in Commonwealth countries often caves when female defendants pull out the mental health card; doesn't seem to hold water for many male defendants.)

One does wonder if the sentence would have been the same had the genders been reversed.

No need to wonder. on average men receive 63 percent longer prison terms than women for the same crimes. Sauce: https://www.law.umich.edu/news...

Note that is a University of Michigan author, so doesn't include New Zealand. But interesting nonetheless.

That AC is an ignorant buffoon. However, there is more detail to infant mortality than *just* different definitions.

One of the issues is that infant mortality is high correlated with the age of the mother. Very young (under 15) and very old (over 45) mothers tend to have problems. Many of those very underweight, underdeveloped, or premature births come from those mothers. This results in infant mortality from those groups that is roughly 60% higher than other groups.

And the US has a significantly higher rate of young teen and very old mothers. When you compensate for mother's age, the US rises 3rd best in the world for infant mortality - even with the US's world-broadest definition of "live birth".

One of the many ways that AI is nothing like intelligence is the absence of any representational model of the real world.

There are many kinds of AI. Neural nets don't construct a representational model of the world from visual input but other AI techniques do. The Soar framework used so successfully for the machine-controlled antagonists in Descent (among many other uses) supports chunking, reinforcement learning, episodic learning, and semantic learning. It is based on the unified theory of cognition. It has both a temporary and permanent representational memory. It's fundamentally rule-based, rather than a neural net.

There was at one time a neural net version of Soar called Neuro-Soar but it's not part of the mainstream Soar library.

Turns out that Fox news is about as biased to the right as CNN is to the left and a LOT less biased than many other outlets. And the Wall Street Journal tends to be about as mainstream as you're going to find in the US.

Itanium is a VLIW (Very Long Instruction Word) processor, which means that speculation is controlled at compile-time, not at run-time. One of the early papers on the subject described it in the following way (note the passage that I have emphasized):

... run-time speculation is expensive in the hardware needed to support it. The alternative is to perform speculative code motion at compile-time. The compiler for a VLIW machine specifies that an operation be executed speculatively by performing speculative code motion, that is, scheduling an operation before the branch that determines that it should, in fact, be executed. At run-time, the VLIW processor executes these speculative operations in the exact order specified by the program just as it does for non-speculative operations. These operations will end up being executed before the branches that they originally were supposed to follow; hence, they are executed speculatively in relation to the original sequential code that the scheduler received....

When the compiler decides to schedule operations for speculative execution, it ensures that they do not overwrite any of the state of the computation that is needed to assure correct results if it turns out that that operation ought not to have been executed. This is achieved by writing the results of the speculative operations into different destination registers, i.e., performing register renaming at compile-time.

The smallpox blankets thing was neither an act of terrorism nor an attempted genocide because it didn't happen. The entire story is a fraud, perpetrated by a former "ethnic studies" professor named Ward Churchill. http://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/plag/5240451.0001.009/--did-the-us-army-distribute-smallpox-blankets-to-indians?rgn=main&view=fulltext

The High Plains Smallpox Epidemic of 1837 was caused by personal contact with infected passengers from the riverboat St. Peter's, owned by a fur trading company. The epidemic on the High Plains centered around Fort Clark which, despite the name, was not a military installation. It was a privately owned fur trading post. The boss of Fort Clark was Francis Chardon, a fur trader. His personal diary survived to this day, one of numerous eyewitness accounts preserved from the time.

Not only were infected blankets not distributed, but correspondence from Joshua Pilcher, the Indian Bureau's sub-agent to the Sioux, Cheyenne, and Ponca at Fort Kiowa, just south of Fort Clark, to Mr. Chardon describes one particular problem interfering with attempts to contain the epidemic that is curiously relevant to today. A smallpox vaccine existed in 1837, but Mr. Pilcher noted "it is a verry delicate experiment among those wild Indians, because death from any other cause, while under the influence of Vaccination would be attributed to that + no other cause[.]"

Sound familiar?

In 2006, Ward Churchill was found guilty of seven counts of research misconduct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... by the University of Colorado Ethics Committee. He was fired in 2007. He promptly filed suit, and won a jury trial for wrongful dismissal. The jury followed the instructions to the letter in coming to their conclusion, but recognized Churchill for the lying shitheel he was and awarded him precisely $1.00. (One juror denied any such motivation in a public interview.) A judge vacated the jury verdict on the grounds that the (state) university enjoys quasi-judicial immunity. The Colorado Court of Appeals upheld that decision. The Colorado Supreme Court agreed to hear an appeal and in 2013 agreed with both the first judge and the Court of Appeals that the university was immune to suit in these circumstances. The US Supreme Court declined to get involved.

It took 19 years from when Churchill first published his fraudulent bullshit in 1994 to the time when the judicial system finished with the case. It could easily take four or five generations for his lie to finally exit the public consciousness. This despite the fact that humanity currently has the fastest, most ubiquitous communications systems in the history of the species.

Ward Churchill: I've never really stopped to spell out why I was saying what I was saying, or to flesh out the annotation, partly because I mentioned them in the context of developing broader arguments, and partly because I considered what I was saying to be more or less self-evidently true. So, I glad-handed things a bit. Mea culpa. http://dissidentvoice.org/Sept05/Frank0919.htm

you want a useful study ? https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-sup... SO useful they hid it , SO useful a MEP had to invoke their own laws on data disclosure and free information against them (yea ofcourse pirate party, who else would go against lobbyright these days?) thats how useful it was and it will very likely confirm mafiaa and breinbaf worst nightmares : the only ones losing money are the ones sponsoring the copyright trolls because it barely makes a dent compared to all the lawyer and troll money thrown at it, its not about sounds business, its about competitive psychopaths and their need to "win" even if its against all reason back when the world was young i had the silly idea if you do business you scrap that what costs you more than that what gets you, otherwise you're closer to an NGO (but i always had weird ideas) on top of that : https://torrentfreak.com/japan... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/n... while https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu... https://torrentfreak.com/inter... most people here think anime is cartoons is pokemon shall i rest my case, because its pointless, clearly, like the whole intellectual and expert world advising against internet filtering and then they vote PRO

Any fact checking website would probably rate Gore's statement as true.

Kahn and Cerf say Al Gore took the initiative in creating the internet, that's good enough for me.

The UM folk are way ahead of you. While that version has a near-field radio, this version has an optical wake-up receiver.

The UM folk are way ahead of you. While that version has a near-field radio, this version has an optical wake-up receiver.

With more information regarding data transfer, power etc.

https://news.umich.edu/u-m-res...

This seems to be a common misconception.

In a rape case it is often very hard to prove what happened. There is often little or no evidence and witnesses. The standard for criminal convictions is "beyond a reasonable doubt" in most places and it can be quite hard to reach that bar.

No, that's not the reason false rape accusers get away with it at all, as could be easily demonstrated:

Girl made false accusation of rape after her ex-boyfriend rejected her

As far as punishment goes, there is a which is, of course, overlooked, for reasons not that widely known and even contrary to the mainstream narrative.

It's just not perceived as such a big problem (as made up statements about such false accusations "rarely happening" were repeated so many times, people started to believe it was true).

"I'll show you my link if you show me yours."

Well here are four separate studies that all reach the same conclusion.
https://repository.law.umich.e...
https://www.ussc.gov/research/...
http://people.terry.uga.edu/mu...
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.co...

I can probably find more if needed.

Smallpox blankets is a debunked lie.

According to this study, natural evaporative losses can be up to 0.6 inches per day. Assuming it's really just under half an inch (about 12mm), natural evaporation from Lake Michigan can reach 183 billion gallons per day. That 2.7 million gallons lost per day - and as the article says, most of it to evaporation - is about 0.0014% of the current evaporation. Is moving evaporation from the lake surface to a site right next to the lake surface an issue? In other words, relocating around 1 thousandth of 1 percent o the evaporation is the concern?

"Southern California" would most certainly be red.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/...

Not really. http://www-personal.umich.edu/...

"Southern California" would most certainly be red.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/...

Not really. http://www-personal.umich.edu/...

Dividing up

Does the law apply equally to men and women? Yes. Check legal.

AHA CHECKMATE! You're wrong.

Men receive on average longer sentences, up to 63% longer sentences and are twice as likely to get convicted (sauce : https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_disparities.aspx).

Male privilege is real!

For fuck's sakes. This was a retarded intentional misinterpretation, and now it's an ancient bit of idiocy. Gore never claimed to have invented the Internet. He was, however, its tireless defender in the bunch of technophobe weasels called Congress. Which is what he said. And the people who did actually invent the Internet supported that statement.

It wasn't clever or funny then, and it hasn't aged well. There's already enough retarded rightards here saying stupid shit, so fuck off.

My feeling is that it would be unlikely to change their policy, at least by those in power.

I agree, I think you're right here.

Many people tended to view subjugation or even extermination of "lesser" peoples as their divine right. That attitude is pervasive even in relatively modern times, as with WW2-era Nazis or Japanese and their attitudes about races they viewed as inferior to their own. And I shouldn't give the Allied powers a pass either, such as with the British subjugation of India and the middle east, or the French and Dutch colonies in the Far East.

Don't let the Arabs off the hook either
Nor the Aztecs themselves
Nor the Native Americans
... NOR ANY RACE OR TRIBE OR COUNTRY.
Slavery, mass murder, rape, war, and just plain assholery is an area where literally all have sinned.

And I believe there is historical evidence the US army deliberately used germ warfare against Native Americans in one case.

If you're talking about the army blankets then you heard wrong. It's bullshit made up by Ward Churchill.

Sadly, empathy for tribes outside of one's own has not historically been one of humanity's bright points.

True. And that's why Jesus and Christianity have lasted for thousands of years. The irony is that those who try to teach such things are hated the most, especially by those who (again, ironically) think they are so smart.

In fairness, contact between long separated peoples was basically inevitable once global exploration and trade became a thing. There's really no way to effectively quarantine a large population like that, at least in the long term. A single shipwrecked sailor is probably all it takes to trigger an epidemic.

I agree with this; I think you're right.

Thanks for the information, DNS-and-BIND. Correction: US attacking Native Indians was apparently a complete hoax, deliberately fabricated by Ward Churchill. Why did I not know this?

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/p...

Just goes to show that a compelling story spread much faster and farther than a subsequent retraction or correction.

Here is one direct citation.

You can just peruse the whole duckduckgo search if you wish.

Black males are not oppressed. I am a black male living and working in one of those supposedly terrible conservative places, run by righties, and I have never faced meaningful discrimination. I have never been in, seen, or heard of a workplace that intentionally tried to treat black males badly. I know a lot of conservative republicans, and none of them want black males to be treated badly.

The people I see complaining about the treatment of black males are people trying to invent a villain to blame their failures on.

While I'm not going to suggest that racism doesn't exist (there are plenty of scientific studies or statistical analysis of data that have found racial bias exists or cannot explain race-based gaps for different outcomes) I would argue that the people on both sides who are creating or perpetuating a victim narrative should just fuck off because they're not doing anything to help.

Dare you title it 'Logic'? From the actual UMich press release, that links to the study not the article in the Slashdot summary that links to the wrong Reuters article,

In an unexpected finding, wealthier respondents were less likely to purchase a vehicle than those whose household income is below $100,000 a year. The researchers speculate that this is because those in a higher income bracket likely already had a vehicle at their disposal.

There's a clue. Or MAD MONEY at their disposal. Perhaps the researchers' ability to speculate stops short of imagining that ride sharing as it stands and those trip fares are a luxury item... and it does not provide a reliable or economical means to meet daily commitments. Today it does not even provide survival income for most that offer the service. A Ponzi scheme that draws from both ends to enhance the corporate middle. New Yorkers go to great lengths not to rely exclusively on taxicabs to commute (as little as 6%) in a city that was constructed around them. How has this all changed?

It does not help that press releases touting the latest cloud-centric 'ride sharing' schemes glibly traverse between the realms of scheduled carpooling and the idea of random car-for-hire when it suits them. Carpooling was always a great idea. The idea that there is a Uber-slave parked and waiting (on the edge of a 'surge' area, a shifting blob on their smartphone screen) a few blocks away is poised to serve a personal need, is not.

Time and again I have observed milestones of technological progress being bargained away lightly, such as the personal automobile that (in sprawling medium density cities like Austin down to rural) does empower the individual to meet daily commitments and take trips. I have heard stories told by younger folk who start off in the utopian mindset and quickly realize that as they pursue the dream they begin to impose personally on others, their friends, who have made the commitment to own automobiles. And a few bucks tossed in here and there by-me does not compensate for the imposition on-you. Ultimately they shift priorities and at least consider the idea of car ownership, whether it is affordable to them or not.

And tragically it is not affordable to them. Unless they take the bus or walk, they're going to be late for work. Ironically some have made the commitment to own a car and parking is available, but they cannot afford to park. What aspect of 'city planning' has failed them? Only in the densest cities with the greatest commitment (principally in China) can one lay more than even odds that a shared bicycle will be available. How are taxicabs going to change the world? The UMich study is not wrong in any great way, nor is it right. It's just fixated on a tiny smidgen of statistical delta that is overwhelmed by the 'noise' of a distressed economy and a weird obsession with unworkable schemes.

Stop spreading lies. Or at least post proof.

You're replying to the wrong comment

It wasn't until I read this that it occurred to me that handing out smallpox infected blankets was an act of terrorism.

It wasn't an act of terrorism, but it may have been an attempt at genocide with bioweapons...but it's not clear whether it was an intentional use of bioweaponry or not.

It was neither an act of terrorism nor an attempted genocide because it didn't happen. The entire story is a fraud, perpetrated by a former "ethnic studies" professor named Ward Churchill.

The High Plains Smallpox Epidemic of 1837 was caused by personal contact with infected passengers from the riverboat St. Peter's, owned by a fur trading company. The epidemic on the High Plains centered around Fort Clark which, despite the name, was not a military installation. It was a privately owned fur trading post. The boss of Fort Clark was Francis Chardon, a fur trader. His personal diary survived to this day, one of numerous eyewitness accounts preserved from the time.

Not only were infected blankets not distributed, but correspondence from Joshua Pilcher, the Indian Bureau's sub-agent to the Sioux, Cheyenne, and Ponca at Fort Kiowa, just south of Fort Clark, to Mr. Chardon describes one particular problem interfering with attempts to contain the epidemic that is curiously relevant to today. A smallpox vaccine existed in 1837, but Mr. Pilcher noted "it is a verry delicate experiment among those wild Indians, because death from any other cause, while under the influence of Vaccination would be attributed to that + no other cause[.]"

Sound familiar?

In 2006, Ward Churchill was found guilty of seven counts of research misconduct by the University of Colorado Ethics Committee. He was fired in 2007. He promptly filed suit, and won a jury trial for wrongful dismissal. The jury followed the instructions to the letter in coming to their conclusion, but recognized Churchill for the lying shitheel he was and awarded him precisely $1.00. (One juror denied any such motivation in a public interview.) A judge vacated the jury verdict on the grounds that the (state) university enjoys quasi-judicial immunity. The Colorado Court of Appeals upheld that decision. The Colorado Supreme Court agreed to hear an appeal and in 2013 agreed with both the first judge and the Court of Appeals that the university was immune to suit in these circumstances. The US Supreme Court declined to get involved.

It took 19 years from when Churchill first published his fraudulent bullshit in 1994 to the time when the judicial system finished with the case. It could easily take four or five generations for his lie to finally exit the public consciousness. This despite the fact that humanity currently has the fastest, most ubiquitous communications systems in the history of the species.

"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still getting its boots on." —Mark Twain[1]

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[1] Except Samuel Clemens never wrote that. He was first credited with saying it in 1919, though he had died in 1910. The earliest known version of the sentiment in English was written by Jonathan Swift in 1710. His version was, "Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it;".

Stop spreading lies. Or at least post proof.

https://www.law.umich.edu/news... For those too busy to read the citation, the research by Professor Sonja Starr indicates men receive prison sentences that average 63% longer than women convicted of the same crime. Women are also twice as likely to avoid incarceration altogether. The paper itself: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/p...

So what we have here a bit of a minefield. If we are to continue this practice, the algorithm must take gender into account, and purposely hand out sentences that are much less for females than males. This would become glaringly obvious during testing. Input identical parameters except gender. Codified and simply proven gender discrimination, built right into the program will result in a pretty short gender discrimination trial.

But if gender is not taken into account, and suddenly females get identical sentencing, you can bet there will be a lot of legal agitation from a different group.

I see it as an entertaining thing to watch unravel. I would expect to consume much popcorn.

Never happened.

Hard as it is to prove a negative, it is easy to show a positive. Because the distribution smallpox blankets as a means of infection? Actually happened.

Even your own source mentioned it.

Not sure why you limited yourself to the US Army. I could say the Swiss Army never committed a massacre in Nanking, but what would that prove?

Also, would have been pretty amazing if the US Army had come to comprehend and weaponize germ theory decades before it was developed and accepted.

Why? It is known that the practice of biological warfare predates the discovery of the Americas. In fact, the British Army expressly discussed it. So you're saying the US Army would be amazing because they knew what their predecessors knew?

Am I amazing because I could read a book too? Or because my grandmother could teach me how to suck eggs?

Now certainly you wouldn't say their knowledge was complete, but you don't need to understand the mechanisms of salicylic acid in order to drink willowbark tea.

Never happened.

Also, would have been pretty amazing if the US Army had come to comprehend and weaponize germ theory decades before it was developed and accepted.

That's not what actual research says.

And funny, I also worked at a state university, and every year, the Board chose to raise tuition BECAUSE they had far more applicants willing to pay their federally granted loan money to attend the school than the school could afford to take. Related is the emphasis on out-of-state students, that pay far more. Yeah, the State's portion got cut every year, but no one cared, because the tuition and fees payments went up way more.

University of Michigan, in 2010, had state funding cut by $1.4 million, or about 0.5%, off of $316 million. But they raised tuition by almost 4%, and raised fees as well for a total increase of 7.1% - or $68 million out of $1 BILLION.

So STFU, because you are completely wrong.

In that sense, so is Oregon (Portland, Salem, Bend), California (SanFran Metro, LA Metro, San Diego Metro), Washington (SeaTac and maybe one other metro area), and likely lots of other states just like it. :)

Not quite, but certainly the perception of California, Washington, and Oregon as total Commie-Pinko Hippie territory is wrong. Reagan was elected governor of California. Reagan. The idea that the state is a far leftist fring? A lie.

But here's a shocker, so is the perception of the country as a Sea of Red. It's a lie. A damnable one.

Is there a list of the problematic apps that they found? Their paper - which can be found here: http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~jac... - lists a few example, but it would be useful to know the full list.

You start by calling me a racist and think that my reply was meant to engage you in a political argument?

No, actually, I don't see Bruce Perens calling you a racist, in fact, you interjected yourself, but actually, to start yourself off, you are one who stated:

"In fact, the entire "argument" for the left is that you are a racist if you don't agree with them."

A very defensive reaction, and a false premise, but I guess you wanted to get enraged over an imagined attack, and direct your abuse at the left" as Bruce Perens already described you. You began with trying to play the victim card, that comes across as hysterical posturing, nothing more.

That you then jumped to "They have no logic, no reason, nothing but insults." is even more discrediting when we consider the tendency of the current President to make up accusations, throw-out insults, and otherwise present fact-deficient claims, a problem that also applies to many in the Republican party, and yes, even to yourself. As demonstrated by your own conduct here.

Which actually makes me wonder if you're not trying to make them look bad as you're paid to be a discredit to the conservative party.

Sheesh, and you think that I'm the kid here.

Here's what ESR (you've heard of him, no?) had to say about the election:

Eric Scott Raymond isn't immune to foolish statements either, though I will say that if nothing else, he managed to endeavor to a higher level than yourself. Still, he got numerous facts wrong, and his premises are broken.

And what lesson did you learn from this election?

That Donald Trump only barely managed to outperform Bush, after 12 years of population growth, and that more effort needs to be focused on controlling gerrymandering and voter initiatives. But even with that, it was still a substantial lead in the popular vote, and no amount of lying about a landslide will change Trump's win from anything except a popular victory. As noted, you were also engaged in that lie, when you claimed the "people" favored him. A deceit of your own, and you should know better. But you don't want to do that.

Personally, I think Tim Kaine was the weakness. He delivered Virginia, but what else? Not much. Somebody with more dramatic left-wing appeal should have been chosen. Or more right-wing appeal. A Republican "disgusted" at Trump would have brought voters into the fold by the millions.

"The party that formed specifically to abolish slavery, that gave their very lives by the hundreds of thousands to free the slaves from their Democrat masters, and that passed something like a dozen civil rights acts over the objections of Democrats, has always been racist."

Yup, believe it or not, it HAS been a long-standing accusation against the Republican Party and its leaders. Namely, Douglas was saying that about Lincoln during their famed debates.

Take the Civil War and emancipation. It didn't take more than a decade before the Republicans walked away from protecting black civil rights in favor of winning the Presidency.

Sorry, but even Lincoln can't be sainted on the issue, let alone the thousands of other elected Republicans, or even the ones today.

This is not hacking a smartphone. This is A) 'biasing output' or making it look like one has put in more steps for the day, and B) 'controlling output' or spelling a word with the graph of acceleration/time using tight sound manipulation of an accelerometer. Link to TFPeer reviewed paper: https://spqr.eecs.umich.edu/pa...

Oh, my God...really?

I've avoided anything political for years because I'm sick of the BS all around...BUT could not resist and just hit the back button.

Here is why:

Er, how is that news? Look at what happened November 8th, 2016 for insanity index. Forecast; High.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymaprb1024.png
Rod Serling voice: Imagine if you will you live in a red'ish area and have been pushed around by your "betters" in blue for 8 years.
A "Republican" president is elected in what was (as Micheal Moore said) was the biggest FU to both sides and it would feel good.

Well, it did feel good and I laughed heartily and long with many chuckles for the past 35+ days.

I wish I could find the meme like http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymaprb1024.png where it said
  "The blue areas want a civil war to oust President Trump, but the red areas own 95% of the guns. How's that gonna work out?"

Chance of dunderheads: 100%

Agreed, but before Nov 9, 2016. Then it changed.

Protectionism, Xenophobia, and nut job anti-consumerism regulations to be expected for the next two years.

Secured boarders and deporting illegals, visa overstays and countries that sponsor terror, Xenophobic only as it relates to those that want to hurt/kill is usually called common sense.
Anti-consumerism? Not wanting to buy a product that anyone paying attention would have (and DID) tell you was a P.O.S not even meant to help?
Johnathan Gruber...look him up.

Sticking busybody noses into random vaginas guaranteed.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
Something like this, eh? https://patriotpost.us/cartoons/24498/
Or the Bill Clinton school of humidors?
Or sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, unless it is stuck in an intern.

Skyhigh medical bills and health insurance: Paid for by lobbyists that stand to gain.

Oh, so you are aware of what Obamacare was all about when the Democrats rammed it through on a PartyLine vote on Christmas Eve. Good for you!! You finally understand or just tripped over the truth.
R.R quote: https://patriotpost.us/memes/47509/

Hilarity, hypocrisy and hysteria: delivered.

I think you meant: Hillary-ity, hypocrisy and hysteria: delivered. (NOOOOOOTTTT).

Global shunning: On the way.

America! F*ck Yea!!! (tongue firmly in cheek w/ smug sarcasm as a bonus)
Trying to make the EU like the USA is working about as well as the reverse.
Then again, most people don't recall the point of the Statue of Liberty. (Hint: Not to make the US more like France, but quite the reverse).

'moose. (American, Veteran and currently residing in one of the two solid red states)

(aside: Mr. Moore was right...once...dang that felt gooood)

Oh, my God...really?

I've avoided anything political for years because I'm sick of the BS all around...BUT could not resist and just hit the back button.

Here is why:

Er, how is that news? Look at what happened November 8th, 2016 for insanity index. Forecast; High.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymaprb1024.png
Rod Serling voice: Imagine if you will you live in a red'ish area and have been pushed around by your "betters" in blue for 8 years.
A "Republican" president is elected in what was (as Micheal Moore said) was the biggest FU to both sides and it would feel good.

Well, it did feel good and I laughed heartily and long with many chuckles for the past 35+ days.

I wish I could find the meme like http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymaprb1024.png where it said
  "The blue areas want a civil war to oust President Trump, but the red areas own 95% of the guns. How's that gonna work out?"

Chance of dunderheads: 100%

Agreed, but before Nov 9, 2016. Then it changed.

Protectionism, Xenophobia, and nut job anti-consumerism regulations to be expected for the next two years.

Secured boarders and deporting illegals, visa overstays and countries that sponsor terror, Xenophobic only as it relates to those that want to hurt/kill is usually called common sense.
Anti-consumerism? Not wanting to buy a product that anyone paying attention would have (and DID) tell you was a P.O.S not even meant to help?
Johnathan Gruber...look him up.

Sticking busybody noses into random vaginas guaranteed.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
Something like this, eh? https://patriotpost.us/cartoons/24498/
Or the Bill Clinton school of humidors?
Or sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, unless it is stuck in an intern.

Skyhigh medical bills and health insurance: Paid for by lobbyists that stand to gain.

Oh, so you are aware of what Obamacare was all about when the Democrats rammed it through on a PartyLine vote on Christmas Eve. Good for you!! You finally understand or just tripped over the truth.
R.R quote: https://patriotpost.us/memes/47509/

Hilarity, hypocrisy and hysteria: delivered.

I think you meant: Hillary-ity, hypocrisy and hysteria: delivered. (NOOOOOOTTTT).

Global shunning: On the way.

America! F*ck Yea!!! (tongue firmly in cheek w/ smug sarcasm as a bonus)
Trying to make the EU like the USA is working about as well as the reverse.
Then again, most people don't recall the point of the Statue of Liberty. (Hint: Not to make the US more like France, but quite the reverse).

'moose. (American, Veteran and currently residing in one of the two solid red states)

(aside: Mr. Moore was right...once...dang that felt gooood)

This study is racist and xenophobic and slashdot is also for posting it. America is a country of immigrants and Indians have just as much right to a programming job as anyone who was born here.

You are trolling. Did you even read the study? I guess not because of your comment. Stop playing a victim here.

Study Link

Overall, our results suggest that high-skill foreign workers contribute to the well-being of the typical US consumer, mainly through the assumption that these workers contribute to innovation at the same rate as US high-skill workers. Indeed, under our calibrations, accounting for foreign workers’ effect on innovation, the gains to consumers are an order of magnitude larger than gains excluding this effect. At some level, this is hardly surprising. While simple models of the impact of immigration on native welfare suggests the immigrant surplus is second order (Borjas, 1999), if the immigrants shift out the production possibility frontier, their effect will be first order.

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Although our results suggest that the introduction and expansion of the H-1B program in the 1990s brought gains to both US consumers and IT sector entrepreneurs, we also found indications of losses for US computer scientists and potential computer scientists. Recent work (Peri and Sparber, 2009, 2011) has emphasized the importance of immigration affecting the occupational choice of US natives. Our results tend to support the importance of this view.

Indeed, our estimates suggest that high-skill immigration has had a significant effect on the choices made by US workers and students.

However, the study assumes that all H1B are high-skill foreign workers. I am not so sure about that assumption...

what's behind a paywall

Lrn2 internet, nub.

http://www.psc.isr.umich.edu/pubs/pdf/rr16-857.pdf

I had theorized a frustrated biochem student who mistakenly attributed the creator of the Krebs Cycle.

Yes, but it doesn't really work like that if you're on statins.

I had theorized a frustrated biochem student who mistakenly attributed the creator of the Krebs Cycle.

I didn't vote for either Trump or Hillary --- but if you look at what actually happened, you don't need conspiracy theories to explain it.

But that's the thing, too many people on the Trump side are explaining it as...something it is not. That's what has come up here.

Hillary won the east and west coasts, very much as you might have expected. She won them big and that's the main reason for her overall popular vote win.

She lost in conservative states where you would expect that.

The pollsters and pundits misread the situation on the ground in states like Michigan, which they thought Hillary would win, but instead went over to Trump by fairly narrow margins.

Ah, you should look at some maps..

Pretty
pictures.
ok

This appears to be more to do with the economy, jobs, etc., than leaked emails and the like.

Well, it's not because they love Donald Trump. He's now not unfavorable by 2/3 of the country! That's soaring...to new lows.

Of course, all of this can be debated endlessly, but what is there about the election that really leads to a credible theory of manipulation, fraud, and hacking? The fact that Hillary lost is not exactly evidence.

You may or may not be disappointed with the outcome. You may or may not be happy that Trump will be president. But there certainly seems to be a fairly simple and fairly logical explanation for the outcome. That seems a lot stronger than conspiracy theories.

Bzzt, error, error. You're in the wrong section of the thread. This is the section of the thread where we're talking about how Trump's win is not a landslide, is not clearly showing how the American people are speaking, and ultimately how Trump's a lying braggart.

I mean, if you want to discuss something, we could ask ourselves why Wisconsin has the lowest turnout since 2000. Why Michigan had so many problems. Why Pennsylvania election officials lied to potential voters. We could do that. But we won't.

because that's a job for people in low-cost countries, turning their pictures into something executable.

Um, No. Simulink does the C/C++ for you and does it better than 99% of the human coders out there.

If you are still outsourcing Simulink -> C to a human you're wasting money and adding bugs.

If you want the U.S. to balkanize, continue dictating that San Fransisco, Los angles, and New York should rule OVER a country bigger than Europe. And when the blood comes, and it will come, it will be on ivory tower eggheads at Harvard like Lessig.

If you want to change the electoral college for next election that is one thing, but saying electors should vote for someone else is doubly communist. You don't support the laws and systems and you aren't supporting democracy.

Actually, she lost in all kinds of places. Oklahoma, for example, she did not win a single county. It looks like Oklahoma uses paper ballots. She also lost every single county in West Virginia, which uses paper or machines with a paper trail.

Here's a list of the states using paper ballots, and who got their votes:

Montana - Trump
New Mexico - Clinton
North Dakota - T
South Dakota - T
Nebraska - T
Oklahoma - T
Minnesota - C
Iowa - T
Michigan - T
Alabama - T
New York - C
Maryland - C
Vermont - C
NH - C
Mass. - C
Conn. - C
RI - C
Maine - C

The paper-only states are the ones colored gray here:

https://ballotpedia.org/Voting...

For reference:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/...

When I was in the US I thought it was amazing how many people where hauling 4x8 sheets when looking at the cars people drove.

It's our government distorting the market.

They imposed the Corporate Average Fuel Economy standard, to try to reduce fuel consumption. To meet it, the auto manufacturers killed the station wagon and started making mostly small cars. So people with a family too large to drive, or tote groceries for, in a rice-rocket moved up to SUVs, vans, and pickup trucks. Less mileage - but they're "commercial" (and some ARE needed for commercial purposes), so they don't count.

They don't count even though the Pointy Haired Bosses in some auto companies noticed that MOST of their SUVs never leave the cities and freeways, redesigned them into "Mall Terrain Vehicles" with smoother highway rides (crippling them for off-road work), and wondered why their former regular customers (who bought vehicles even during recessions) switched to other brands.

If the foolish government goes through with their threat to bring SUVs and/or vans under the CAFE standard, it just means more crippling of farming, ranching, and other businesses, while the people needing larger family support vehicles will move up to crew-cab pickups and small buses.

(This is one example of why people who live and work in rural areas tended to vote against Hillary and Democrats for other federal offices.)