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FOSS adds little value to a small business
I work in an environment where the 'IT support' lives 500 miles away and visits once every few months if we are lucky. As with everything in a small company, problems need to be solved by the individual who has them and I'm sorry but from my albeit limited experience with it (at the risk of flamebaiting) nothing in any of the mainstream linux distros seems to be easy.
There may be a wealth of high quality, reliable applications available for nothing, but one of main reasons Microsoft and Apple, especially Apple, are successful is due to simplicity. Most employees can't spend half a day searching for 'font packs' or screwing around with wine or virtual machines to get a single proprietary software package to run in order to be compatible with the other 90% of the planet.
They are by no means perfect, but you can't really fault their compatibility for virtually anything a normal user would do. -
Re:Fatima
How about learning a little HTML and making proper hyperlinks? Cutting and pasting is for suckers.
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Re:gnome changes too often
Strawman. If a program is tested on a platform that you use, but not on a platform that you don't use, then the latter won't affect the program's stability on the platform that you do use.
Not true. In particular, problems with wayward pointers are famous for showing up only under certain memory conditions, where testing on a wider variety of platforms will often help reveal.
That aside, Windows 9x is simply not a "perfectly good platform".
That may be, but I've monitored quite a few websites that track and show that Windows 9x remains a persistent platform. While it may be that there are now more W9x installations in virtual machines than as a primary OS, you can't ignore it any more than you can ignore that some percentage of the population is gay, just because they're a minority.
This site has some statistics: , but leaves out mobile platforms for some reason-- I suspect many of those are less than the 0.1% attributed to W9x. But we don't care, we don't have to, we're MOZILLA...
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Re:Linux is for Geeks
Finding people freely admitting that Linux has faults is not hard at all. This story and every "Linux on the desktop" story like it is packed with them.
As for your claim that nobody is actually using Linux - you seem to be wrong. Oh, and if you start your comments with something incendiary and patently false, people will show up 'debunking' your negative opinions. -
Re:Why not open it up
Well, I know how to copy and paste as well as the next guy: £
Then, it would appear "the next guy" can't copy and paste correctly, since you managed to insert an extra symbol when you pasted.
Also, since this is HTML, whether you have a £ symbol on your keyboard isn't important. To reliably have anything with a character code outside of the 7-bit ASCII range display, you must use HTML entities.
So, to get £ to display, you would have to type "£".
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Re:But does it improve story quality?
Know your entities:
- € euro (€)
- £ pound (£)
- ‘ left single quotation mark (‘)
- ’ right single quotation mark (’)
- “ left double quotation mark (“)
- ” right double quotation mark (”)
- – en dash (–)
- — em dash (—)
For some reason though ² nor ² work for squared, as doesn't ³ or ³ for cubed.
Other supported named entities: ¥ ¦ © ® ± ¼ ½ ¾ × ÷ À Á Â Ã Ä Å Æ Ç È É Ê Ë Ì Í Î Ï Ð Ñ Ò Ó Ô Õ Ö Ø Ù Ú Û Ü Ý ß à á â ã ä å æ ç è é ê ë ì í î ï ð ñ ò ó ô õ ö ø ù ú û ü ý ÿ.
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Re:Do your homework before purchasing White Box HW
Just FYI, to make paragraphs in a slashdot comment use the "p" tag for html. You can also use the "br" tag to insert line breaks.
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Re:Compiler for Perl?
If you don't know the language, what are you doing maintaining Perl code? I consider that professionally irresponsible, at least if you're getting paid.
Oh, absolutely, no question there. I was thinking of people messing around for fun, not getting paid to maintain Perl code in a professional environment.
(Where do you look up the
/g flag for the JavaScript example?)When you look up the String.replace method, it should explain
/g there. In my Perl example, you have to recognize that ~ is actually part of the =~ operator, and that s is part of the s/// operator; once you know what these are, you can look them up in perlop (and indeed, /g is explained there).Obviously this isn't a realistic example; any Perl beginner should know the syntax I used. My point was that because other languages rely more heavily on functions to accomplish things that Perl has a unique syntax for (which makes Perl easier and more fun to write), other languages are easier to read because when you come to a function you're not familiar with you can easily look it up. With Perl, if you don't recognize the syntax, you don't know what to look up, so you're stuck (or you misinterpret what's going on).
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Re:I disagree
So how does having to do this http://www.w3schools.com/Ajax/ajax_browsers.asp involve DOM and CSS incompatibilities?
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Re:Notes on New Features
I suppose one could always set a fixed web page background as a canvas, then make it look like they're on an acid trip as they scroll.
:-PThis is what the CSS background-attachment: fixed; is for. (demo)
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Re:Ahh, the stupidity
ISO-8859-1 via HTML special entities
Same way you can create greater than and less than signs (for <sarcasm> and such) without the parser eating them.
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exactly
exactly right.
Honestly, if the OP is in the situation where he is trying to find and patch holes, it would probably be a better idea to do a little homework and start the project over again and use good security techniques when writing.
It is not that hard, really. You just have to remember never to trust user input. That means that you filter all of it, you don't rely on cookies for access control, and you don't trust the variables that the browser sent you (such as $_SESSION['http_referer']).
As far as filtering is concerned, remember that php has a lot of filters at your disposal (just remember to strip new lines out of email addresses yourself, the filter misses that one). Another word of warning: if you are echoing user input out onto a page, it is much easier to use bb syntax than allow html tags through strip tags: the danger is that an attacker can get javascript attributes the filter and it is better just to avoid it. -
Re:Note to self
Chrome market share died fairly quickly
According to http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp, Chrome is growing quickly.
Would love an extension that made Firefox look like chrome - got it looking like ie7 right now (glass + hidemenu + hidestatus bar), but Chrome looks better still.
I refuse to have GoogleUpdate running all the time though. Man has his limits. -
Re:Great article
And what it has is stupid "They just use DHTML". Well, DHTML is just a marketing term to group a few (JavaScript, CSS, HTML and DOM) things together. These things using DHTML isn't suprising or new and this doesn't tell anything at all... Spam article.
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People don't upgrade from what they're given
Right now, according to MarketShare, IE6 and Firefox 2/3 are roughly tied for market share (about 20% to each). TheCounter says that IE6 has 34% of the market while Firefox has 17%, and even W3Schools says that IE6 still has about 20% of users.
The moral of this story is: lots of people don't upgrade. They don't even run Windows Update. They use the browser they got when they installed XP, and they probably don't even know anything else is out there.
This is why, whenever Microsoft ties an application to the operating system, the market suffers. It becomes really hard to compete in that space. Right now, nobody's making money selling a web browser that competes with the one that comes with Windows. This is the way it's been for more than a decade now. The antitrust action against Microsoft was nothing more than a slap on the wrist; it did nothing to restore competition.
If Microsoft is so interested in bundling high-quality apps with the operating system for the good of its users, then why haven't they bundled Microsoft Word?
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Re:Computer with a mouse AT HOME?!
html is how I've always done it. I'm sure that someone fellow who looks down on mere mortals with disdain will explain that I'm doing it all wrong, though.
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Forcible adoption?
One has to wonder if this was a matter of Microsoft using its White House lobbyists, the tossing in of a free temporary datacenter, and free infrastructure to get Silverlight 2 as the defacto standard for this Inauguration.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
To me, it sounds like Microsoft is doing everything it can to not lose further market share to the likes of Google or the Mozilla Foundation and to strengthen its supposed "Flash killer" Silverlight technology.
Unfortunately, as IE comes standard with every Windows system, Microsoft will continue to have a majority hold over most of the desktop experience.
None the less, I think the inauguration being broadcast over the net, regardless of the medium, is still a step in the right direction. Too bad the Obama Administration didn't chose to go with a more robust standard of Adobe Flash.
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If linux as that Unpopular as Vista, !!!
FOSS would be dancing naked in the streets. LOL 2008 WinXP W2000 Win98 Vista W2003 Linux Mac December 71.4% 1.7% 0.1% 15.6% 1.7% 3.8% 5.3% http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp Windows 88.68% Mac 9.63% Linux 0.85% iPhone 0.44% Playstation 0.04% SunOS 0.01% Nintendo Wii 0.01% FreeBSD 0.01% NetBSD 0.00% AIX 0.00% HP-UX 0.00% OpenVMS 0.00% SCP 0.00% SCO 0.00% OpenBSD 0.00% http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8
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Re:Old news
It depends on where you go for browser stats.
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Re:Old news
It depends on where you go for browser stats.
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That Bad?
"What's especially interesting is the fact that Mozilla is picking up two out of three browser users that Microsoft surrenders."
I realize this was written with the intent of saying, "What a great victory for our hero, Mozilla!"
But let's look at the numbers...
Browser share for November 2008 per w3schools:
IE7: 26.6%
IE6: 20%
Chrome: 3.1%
Firefox: 44.2%
Mozilla: 0.4%
Safari: 2.7%
Opera: 2.3%So, non Microsoft leaves us with 53.4% of the market... Meaning Firefox already commands 80%+ of the non Microsoft share.
Gaining two out of every three - 67% of users quitting Microsoft - when it already has 80%+ of the non Microsoft share - implies its popularity is dropping not gaining amongst non Microsoft users.
Safari's stayed pretty constant for the last few months - as has Firefox, crawling up at a very slow rate. Chrome jumped from 0 to 3% pretty much immediately but has then barely moved in three months. Opera has actually gained proportionally the quickest (2% to 2.3% is a 15% improvement for them in three months).
So, I realize it was intended as a "Yay Firefox" claim - but, if you look deeper at the numbers - less of the new Anti-MS crowd are adopting it than have in the past.
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Does it really matter?
In browser studies from performance to compliance to security, IE either comes in last or close to last, and Opera comes in either first or close to first. But still IE has over 50% market share, and Opera has less than 3%. http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=0 http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
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Re:Linux as an actual alternative?
In all seriousness, I thought the "Linux on the desktop" model was dead several years ago. I can see how Enderle's point applies to Apple, but it seems an enormous stretch to predict that consumers will generally examine the desktop market as it exists today and opt for Linux over Vista, XP, or OS X. I realize Linux has gained ground in the netbook market and done well when debuted on systems that used customized distros. What's the larger picture?
In all seriousness, Linux on the desktop spanks any version of Windows silly.
The new version of the KDE desktop, KDE 4.1.3 or later, has worked out its initial teething troubles and now represent the only GPU-accelerated desktop for Linux, and as such is easily the fastest desktop available today, bar none. Because they use software rendering, not even "lightweight" Linux desktops such as LXDE or Fluxbox are as fast. KDE4 runs all of the compiz-style bling (including the desktop cube and 4 desktops), it is scriptable, it runs KDE3 or GTK applications easily and pretty well integrated, and it has innovative new desktop facets such as strigi, nepomuk et al, and it can run Google widgets, OSX widgets or Plasmoids at the same time (KDE 4.2+).
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081202-hands-on-kde-4-2-beta-1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4#KDE_4.2If you desperately need to run the odd legacy Windows application, you can very likely run it under Wine with more compatibility than Vista offers, and faster than Vista can. If it fails to run under Wine, then you can still run a version of Windows virtually using your choice of two free and open-source Virtual Machine Managers:
VirtualBox OSE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualboxKernel-based Virtual Machine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine
http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-8.10Wine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)#64-bit_applicationsSignificantly, just this last year or so some larger OEMs have begun to offer desktop Linux pre-installed:
http://linux.dell.com/desktops.shtml
http://blogs.computerworld.com/with_hp_in_all_oems_now_ship_desktop_linux
http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/desktop/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=212400561&subSection=News
http://www.workswithu.com/2008/12/12/system76-launches-biometric-ubuntu-linux-laptops/Finally, desktop Linux has (according to some measurements anyway) finally started to gain a measurable adoption rate, just 1.5% behind that of Mac OSX:
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
Vendors such as Canonical are actually finally putting some effort into promoting Linux as a usable, practical desktop OS:
http://www.workswithu.com/No-one told Linux that it was "dead on the desktop". Linux is dominant in every other area of computing, from supercomputers to clusters to servers to infrastructure machines (such as routers) to embedded devices in general (such as cellphones),
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46.6%, if yer talking browsers
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Re:Probably Also Contending with OpenLaszlo
well, with html 5 we all will have the video tag so there's a solution in sight - hopefully!
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Re:Acid is just a dick size comparison anyway...
Sure, IE8 will help, but there is still the problem of penetration. IE7 was released over two years ago, and still has less than 30% penetration. IE6 is still being used by around one in five users, and it has outright horrifying CSS rendering. Unless there have been drastic changes since the release of IE7, this is what can be predicted for the next few years of browser usage:
- IE6 usage will continue to decrease at a rate of 1-2% per month, putting it between 5-8% by the end of next year.
- IE7 will continue to increase for 4-6 months until the release of IE8. At a rate of 0.5-1% per month, that would put it at about 30-31% when IE8 is released. IE8 release will cause of decrease in usage of 10-15% in the first two months, and 1-2% per month afterward. This will put IE7 at about 12-18% by the end of next year.
- IE8 will be released between April and July. It will immediately gain 10-15% in the first two month. Usage will then increase at a rate of 0.5-1% per month, mostly at the expense of IE7 usage.This will put IE8 at about 18-22% by the end of next year.
- FF will continue to grow steadily at a rate of 0.75% per month. FF will be around 55% by the end of next year. Chrome poses the biggest threat to FF growth should a final version be released in the next year. This could affect from 2-10% of FF usage stats, depending on Google marketing and 'geek cred'.
- Safari growth will continue at 0.1%/month, leading it to 4-4.5% by the end of next year.
- Opera growth will continue around 0.1%/month, leading it to 3.3-3.5% at the end of next year.
- Chrome will remain around 2.5-4% until a release or increased advertising causes it to gain visibility, after which growth is unpredictable. -
The average human has one breast and one testicle.
I love statistics. Every one you look at tells you a different story, even on the same subject.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp tells me, that Windows is still above 90% (slightly) using a similar calculation method.
But the article is right in one point: Windows is continuously loosing ground, slowly. At least for the moment. The question is when does it reach a critical point at which application developers start to create their applications for more then just one dominant platform? We are not really there yet. Maybe in 5-10 years if the current tendency prevails.
At some point major software just starts to get developed in a cross-platform fashion which will also trigger better cross-platform frameworks and eventually catalyze the process, but I don't think this will happen until Windows looses another 10%.
It's basically about economy: when does the target audience on non-windows platforms reach the point at which the development for that platforms get profitable.
Don't get me wrong, I particularly hate Microsoft philosophy and products, but I still try to figure out reasonable probabilities. But I'm also no oracle, so I will just lean back in my seat and enjoy the show (misery) from my Linux box. -
Re:Why Apple beat Microsoft
Vista exploded on the launch pad. Nobody's upgrading.
Nobody's upgrading?. I know that a majority of the increasing percentage of Vista installs are related to factory installations, but you still can't discount the fact that more and more people are using Vista. Honestly, a lot of people were saying the same crap about Windows XP a 5-6 years ago but look where it's at now.
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Re:No surprise here...
& l t ; (all together, no spaces) outputs <
& g t ; outputs >
These are HTML Entities. They're explained here. The most commonly used one is & n b s p ; (Non-breaking space).
http://www.w3schools.com/HTML/html_entities.asp
Slashcode slaps you around a lot and makes sure you do things like close your
tags.
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Re:Blocking up the fail whales blowhole
Umm, no, I think the poster meant that his browser (probably Firefox 3.1 beta or nightly) supports the HTML 5 and tags.
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Re:50% still use IE6
> 50% still use IE6. I don't know where that leaves Firefox, but it isn't a nice place.
Depends on who you listen to.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
There is a source that says that IE6 share has collapsed from 35% September 07 down to 22% Spetember 08.
Firefox is ahead of both IE6 and IE7 individually. IE6 + IE7 combined is at 49%, where Fiorefox is at 43%.
As I say
... it all depends on who you listen to. In that context, it is interesting to note that w3schools don't make a browser themselves. -
JavaScript and ASP
For years I have fallen back on http://itr.org/ for their wonderful Javascript F.A.Q.s
For asp I have fallen on the habit of going to google, typing the object name and 'asp', from there I find http://w3schools.com/ and http://4guysfromrolla.com/ to have the best code samples and descriptions of use. However, I hate navigating both of them so Google has become my default doorway into them.
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Re:Good Business Sense?
I suppose it's good business sense to write software for the most popular platform. With around 75% of the OS hits being from Windows
From your link
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.aspOS Platform Statistics
Windows XP is the most popular operating system. The windows family counts for over 90%:
2008.....WinXP...W2000...Win98...Vista...W2003...Linux..Mac
August...73.9%...2.4%....0.2%....12.5%...1.9%....3.9%...4.9%Windows XP (73.9%) + Windows 2000 (2.4%) + Win98 (0.2%) + Windows 2003 (1.9%) + Vista (12.5%) = 90.9%
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Re:Good Business Sense?
I suppose it's good business sense to write software for the most popular platform. With around 75% of the OS hits being from Windows
From your link
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.aspOS Platform Statistics
Windows XP is the most popular operating system. The windows family counts for over 90%:
2008.....WinXP...W2000...Win98...Vista...W2003...Linux..Mac
August...73.9%...2.4%....0.2%....12.5%...1.9%....3.9%...4.9%Windows XP (73.9%) + Windows 2000 (2.4%) + Win98 (0.2%) + Windows 2003 (1.9%) + Vista (12.5%) = 90.9%
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Good Business Sense?
I suppose it's good business sense to write software for the most popular platform. With around 75% of the OS hits being from Windows, it would be prudent to sink resources into a windows browser, rather than Mac or Linux.
On the other hand, Mac use is steadily climbing and climbing among young people. Young people are typically drawn to free and shiny (one might say, Chromed) things. They're also good at starting and perpetuating trends. In that light, it might make sense for Google to sink more resources into making an OS X version. It's important to not only have a good product, but to make it fashionable to use that product. Lord knows how many people are still using IE, not because they like it, but rather because they don't know there's anything faster or better out there out there.
They might as well forget about Linux though. Everybody knows that Linux users are crotchety and only really want to use wget and for really special pages, lynx. I for one can't remember the last time I used a window manager and LIKED that new fangled environment. Too many colors and flashing lights, it's like those arcades that them darn kids like to visit.
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Set apart from?
http://www.w3schools.com/ - I use this site to get undergrads up to speed with the programming we do in our shop at the university. It's always worked well, and all the code is runnable in the browser. Pretty good info, too.
ah.clem
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Re:Service Pack? uhhhh....
I'd love to see your sources for those 'statistics' of yours, because everyone I've heard is grossly misconstruing the truth.
The 15% Apple marketshare claim came out for new, retail sales only for a quarter, in the US. This stat didn't including online retail sales, so it pretty much knocked Dell and most HP machines out of their numbers, along with most all other major PC sellers. Again, complete 'Apple-washing' of statistics to make them sound better.
CNN money clearly states Apple's actual market share of sales, which is 4.7%, which mirrors Apple's real-world share.
http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/01/17/reports-apple-slipped-to-4th-place-in-q4-us-sales/
Of all of the honest to goodness metrics very closely mirror the ones of this site. My personal site, along with my company's website's OS stats also mirror these numbers.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
Apple has increased marketshare, but only by about 1% of total to 4.8% over the past two years. Vista on the otherhand, has gained 11% total market share over the same period of time, all while XP's share hasn't budged over the past three years.
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Re:I have an idea
Someone (I don't have the needed skills) should make a website
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Re:"Community" ?
I mean, they didn't come up with the cute name, but they did package the technology first.
True, but their version is based on ActiveX, while everyone else used XMLHttpRequest. See here: http://www.w3schools.com/Ajax/ajax_browsers.asp
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Re:Safari not trailing Firefox
Rather than mod, I think I'd rather comment on this one... Webkit and Opera tied as the first browser engine to pass Acid3. More great news, Safari 3.1 is the first browser to parse all CSS3 selectors. Even though the story is definitely balls deep on FF's cock, there's no reason to be hatin' on FF. Competition is good, right? I think the important point to take away from this article is
...IE is falling way behind... So much so that users are abandoning it in droves. Look at all the holes in that chart. At the rate things are going, IE will no longer be the dominant browser by the end of the year. -
Re:Toxicity?
You know, this isn't just the internet, this is slashdot, where a lot of people can code or at least know some HTML - you could just use the anchor tag. I haven't used any autolinkify gubbimatrons, but I expect they'd take longer to click than it takes to type <a href=paste_url_here>link name here</a> anyway..
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Average Specs From Non Average Sampling
Clearly, some aspects of games could be improved by having a better knowledge of average PC specs
PopCap's tracking of casual gamers says the average system has a fourteen year old Intel integrated graphic chipset and runs Windows 3.1. This completely confirm's PopCap's choice to go after low end systems.
Crytek's tracking of Crysis players says the average system has eleventy billion GeForce 14000s in SLi mode and eight quad core processors, running 64bit Vista. This completely confirm's Crytek's choice to only worry about high end systems.
Alternatively, when you're testing something that your product already has a barrier of entry for (or targets people who can't make any other barrier of entry), you're going to get people who match the choice you made as opposed to any legitimate indicator of average specs.
Much as I appreciate their doing it, w3schools have the same issue with their browser specs... If you target the dev community, your logs are generally going to show a significant swaying towards newer, more interesting browsers. That you find there aren't many sheep still on whatever Microsoft gives them tells you more about your own users than the "average" web user.
In other news, the Republicans asked everone attending their national conference if global warming mattered and discovered the average American really didn't care that much if it interfered with business. This was a shock to the Green Party who sampled their audience attendees and discovered there was nothing more important to the average American.
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Re:2008: Year of Linux on the Desktop
I would recommend to be more skeptic of the guys that SEO themselves to the first position of Google results.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
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Re:the downward spiral of /.
You're part of the downward spiral. Any self respecting geek knows about html entities and knows those that he needs commonly by heart. (Especially because they are logically structured) So that would be "gefällt mir" with ä for a-umlaut.
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Re:This time
1) The scripting part: mistype a name, and bang, you've got a new variable
Same as PHP AND Ruby, among others.
2) Failed object notation: this.bla, this.foo, this.callMethod(). This is a joke
Why? Because you think object notation is a sacred thing. You should learn more languages. A lot of your criticisms are as if you only know one.
3) No inheritance. Javascript is not object oriented. And using dojo.declare is no joy.
Orly? How hard is it to type "javascript inheritance" into google, really? You don't know Javascript, remove it from your resume.
4) Failed arrays and type system. Play with a[1], a["1"] and other variations, loop over them and get different results. Joy and hapinness
See 1)... Do you even understand how the 2 cases are the same?
5) Failed libraries: new Date( 2000, 1, 1 ): what date is that ?
Yes, only YOU know how a Date() object should be parameterized, right? Go back to school. http://www.w3schools.com/JS/js_obj_date.asp
6) Failed runtime: where are the threads?
Some languages don't have threads. But since you clearly don't know basic Javascript - window.setTimeout(referenceToFunction,timeInMilliseconds); Oh you want a C-like thread implementation handed to you? 3rd Party libraries by people much more familiar with Javascript than you or I exist. Google knows where they are.
7) Failed syntax: compare { x:42, y:35 } with { x=42; y=35; }. I thought the comma-as-a-separator was a thing of the past.
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Re:It's like watching ugly people kiss
What's Windows 2000 doing with a whopping 4.5%? I don't know. Maybe 4 to 5 out of every 100 computers still uses Windows 2000. Even more users of W3schools (yes, a site aimed at developers) used Windows 2000 at the same time as the graph was published.
XP isn't on the graph because more than 5% of people use it. I think.
Microsoft wasn't charged with abusing its monopoly because they only have a small portion of the market
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Re:It's like watching ugly people kissWho hasn't already written off both of these companies? Anyone holding either of them for the long term simply does not grok where the internet and personal computing are going, or how desperately inept these two companies have become due to their size and age
60% of Microsoft's revenues come from outside the US.
Microsoft is long past the point where it can be significantly wounded by a recession in the states.
Microsoft is building a $300 million dollar research campus for 5,000 engineers in Beijing's "Silicon Valley."
Microsoft is very, very strongly positioned in emerging markets. Windows XP and MS Office on the OLPC should have taught the geek that much.
Microsoft's asset is an OS that people are still locked into, but becoming violently sick of.
There is little evidence for this beyond the geek's own fantasies.
Top Operating System Share Trend {By Versions], Operating System Market Share. [June 3, 2008] OS Platform Statistics
In these familiar webstats, OSX holds a familiar, quite comfortable niche, but still only a niche.
MS Vista should reach a 20% share in the Net Applications stats by late summer. Mostly through OEM consumer sales of Vista Premium - which means mostly as a sucessfull competitor to the Mac.
Linux bringing up the rear as always.
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Re:What's the RIGHT number?Firefox @ 16%
Firefox @ 18%
Firefox @ 40%
So which one is right? Is anyone really seeing numbers like that? I looked at the stats of two non-computer related sites. One had firefox at about 6-7% per month. The other was up to 44% but that is only because it's new and not getting a lot of traffic. If I subtract my hits from it, FF drops down to around 10%. -
20% was reached a long time ago
http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/bstats/latest.html http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp Has FireFox at 29.3% and 39.1%
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Re:What's the RIGHT number?Firefox @ 16%
Firefox @ 18%
Firefox @ 40%
So which one is right?Lets see (16+18+40)/3
24% sounds close.