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Let's start with theseComputer Software and Open Source Issues: A Primer, December 17, 2003
The use of open source software by the federal government has been gaining attention as organizations continue to search for opportunities to enhance their information technology operations while containing costs. For the federal government and Congress, the debate over the use of open source software intersects several other issues, including, but not limited to, the development of homeland security and e-government initiatives, improving government information technology management practices, strengthening computer security, and protecting intellectual property rights. Currently, the debate over open source software often revolves primarily around information security and intellectual property rights. However, issues related to cost and quality are often raised as well.
Intellectual Property, Computer Software and the Open Source Movement, March 11, 2004
This report considers the impact of intellectual property rights upon open source software. It provides an introduction to the open source movement in the software industry. It reviews the intellectual property laws, including copyrights, patents, and trade secrets. After identifying issues of interface between open source software and the intellectual property laws, the report concludes with a discussion of possible legislative issues and approaches.
Telecommunications Japans Telecommunications Deregulation: NTTs Access Fees and Worldwide Expansion, August 9, 2000
The United States and Japan are negotiating over Japan's costly rates for telecommunications companies to hook into the telephone network owned by the Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Company (NTT), Japan's dominant provider of telecom services. The U.S. has argued for a 41 percent cut in the rates, while Japan has insisted on a 22 percent cut. NTT also is attempting to acquire Verio, an Internet service provider in the United States.
Telecommunications Act: Competition, Innovation, and Reform, June 7, 2007
Both houses of Congress have begun debating how to modify the 1996 Act, most of which resides within the Communications Act of 1934, as amended. That debate focuses on how to foster investment, innovation and competition in both the physical broadband network and in the applications that ride over that network while also meeting the many non-economic objectives of U.S. telecommunications policy: universal service, homeland security, public safety, diversity of voices, localism, consumer protection, etc.
Patent-related The Obviousness Standard in Patent Law: KSR International Co. v. Teleflex Inc., May 31, 2007
The Patent Act provides protection for processes, machines, manufactures, and compositions of matter that are useful, novel, and nonobvious. Of these three statutory requirements, the nonobviousness of an invention is often the most difficult to establish. To help courts and patent examiners make the determination, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit developed a test called "teaching, suggestion, or motivation" (TSM). This test provided that a patent claim is only proved obvious if
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Everything is so much clearer
With helpful reports like this one available, it's no wonder that our Congress is the most responsive and insightful bunch of legislators in the world.
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Re:Where do I send my donations?
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikileaks:Donate
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Re:Your freedom stops when you hit my nose
I think the British police are a bit touchy about web pages with personal information included. You see, recently, someone posted the membership of the British Nationalist Party. That's the Nazi party in England, for folks who don't keep track of crazy political groups. The list is still available at http://wikileaks.org/wiki/British_National_Party_membership_and_contacts_list%2C_2007-2008, and it included at least one active policeman.
So, they're understandably a bit touchy about anyone revealing personal details of any member of the government right now, not merely for the physical safety of families of those members, but for the potential political scandal that personal facts can reveal. After all, they recently lost the head of British Petroleum for his perjuring himself about where he met his lover (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article1737811.ece). When even such powerful people people as the crown prince can lose his wife because the tabloids get proof of his affairs, well, that government is going to be a bit touchy about anonymous news services that encourage revealing secrets of those in power.
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Re:This is not the same thing as Palin's situation
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_inbox_2008
The list of emails include an exchange with Alaskan Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell about his campaign for Congress. Another screenshot shows Palin's inbox and an e-mail from Amy McCorkell, whom Palin appointed to the Governor's Advisory Board on Alcoholism and Drug Abuse in 2007.
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According to the Guardian, who has looked at the Wikileaks data, among the emails in Palin's account were several from addresses belonging to her aides, including a draft letter to California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, a discussion of nominations to the state court of appeals, and several bearing "DPS", the acronym for the Alaska Department of Public Safety.
but then
by QuantumHack
This really is becoming "SlashKos". Anyone who could be bothered to actually READ the screenshots at Gawker of Palin's Yahoo! account could have seen that it WAS NOT GOVERNMENT BUSINESS.Sheesh. Come on. You may hate Palin, but this is a technology website. Let's deal in the truth.
Is that the O'Reilly "No Spin" flavor of Truthiness you are sampling there or do you make your own Kool-Aid?
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Re:This is why linux/opensource sucks.
Yeah...
Can I buy an unlocked iPhone for a reasonable price, yet? How about deals with networks other than AT&T?
Can I install custom software yet? Oh, I have to jailbreak it. That makes sens... Oh wait, you're asking me to crack my own phone.
Alright, I'll develop an iPhone app. I'll write it in Python, or maybe Erlang, download updates on the fly... Not allowed, you say? I wonder why? Only Apple knows...
Maybe I'll make it run in the background, so I can have something play music while users do something else... Nope, not allowed. When the user taps away from my app, I have to shut down, completely, so as not to drain the battery. That's not just a good best practice, it's actually enforced by Apple.
Yes, it's prettier. Yes, there are things it does better. But as long as Apple keeps such a stranglehold around what's available and what isn't, the iPhone will fall behind. There is no question of that -- there will be killer apps written for Android, even for Windows Mobile, which cannot be ported to the iPhone because of Apple's restrictions.
Why would you want a system so closed, inflexible, and proprietary that it makes Windows look good?
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Re:I'd do this in a second
It's some shit I made up - kind of. We do know that at least 24% of female inductees to one academy were raped, we also know that only a tiny percentage of rape allegations are false and that rape is underreported. Meanwhile, there have been many charges of rape and murder against US soldiers, and many US servicewomen in the mideast have been going mysteriously missing with no explanations offered as to the reasons for their disappearance.
In addition, the military is getting desperate. Drug crime conviction rates have been going steadily up since the Clinton days - specifically among the 18-35 set. These "criminals" are increasingly offered suspended or even revoked sentences for entering the military. Pretty typical. More worrying however is that induction standards have generally fallen off across the board; the military has increasingly been willing to knowingly recruit white supremacists, and white supremacists are actually recruiting current and ex-military as well! When you train people to violence, they become more violent. Does this sound like a good idea to you?
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How exactly will this work ?
Forcing idiots to encrypt sensitive files will
...force idiots to encrypt files (not the ones they should encrypt, obviously) using the password "password"
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lose half the data, believing they encrypted it
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send the data to half their family, especially anyone claiming to be a hacker, with the subject line "can you tell me the password for this file", who'll put it online on wikileaks (who'll happily -and proudly- publish extremely private information on anyone they don't like, laws and privacy be damned)
Well at least, when the honeymoon's over and it's time for Barack O. to publish his email correspondance he can claim to have "encrypted it" and then send a random string, telling the judge the password has something to do with a very dark hole where apparently many claim the sun does not shine.
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Verisign = US Government
Verisign preforms intercepts for the NSA. (how exactly they do with with pub/private key is unknown to me.. perhaps they have a copy of the private key).
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Cox_Communications_Interception_Request_Worksheet_2008
I think it is absolutely a danger to freedom on the internet to have any Government in control of DNS.
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Let's Recap
> There was nothing in them that any sane person would construe as state business. Talking about election plans and partisan coverage is emphatically not state business; it's a party political matter. Sending family photos is, again, not state business.
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_inbox_2008
According to the Guardian, who has looked at the Wikileaks data, among the emails in Palin's account were several from addresses belonging to her aides, including a draft letter to California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, a discussion of nominations to the state court of appeals, and several bearing "DPS", the acronym for the Alaska Department of Public Safety.
There's also an image with an email saying "Fw: veep talking points" It's hard to see that as a personal email, given that this was before the Tina Fey jokes.
No one is saying that the family emails were government business. That's absurd. I will even agree that most of the email was personal, but it's clear that not all of it was and the two shouldn't be mixed in the first place! I personally keep my work email on a separate account from my personal email and I don't mix the two in general, particularly if dealing with outside customers.
How is a draft of a letter to Gen. Schwarzenegger concerning government business "personal", anyhow? This becomes even more relevant when you consider that her tax returns are a bit odd. She's been getting a per diem (along with her family!) for being "away from the office" (and at home). At least some of this should clearly be reported as income. I know it's a side issue, but my point is that having one of her emails hacked by some dumbass who declared her innocent doesn't actually exonerate her. Also, we're told that the gov.sarah account was more widely used for government business and it was NOT hacked, if you recall. You can read the tax analysis here, BTW.
And the information I put up on the Alaska Public Records Act, for that matter, specifically says "There is no exception in the law for records of the governor." Yes, there are other exceptions, but it's hard to see Gov. Schwarzenegger as one of her personal advisers. And one ought NOT to be using Yahoo for government business at all.
Can you imagine if she was VP and sent Top Secret information there? I will grant that it's more shady and sloppy than anything. But I'd rather have careful leaders than careless ones.
That said, you're right that she's not hiding some major crime, just violating a few minor laws. So what I'm saying is that I don't trust her because of this.
And I will maintain again (lest someone read this and not grandparent), that the hacker here deserves punishment. I do NOT think he deserves any sympathy. He's a dumbass (which is why I don't believe that he knew anything about Alaska's Public Records laws).
To summarize:
* Palin is secretive and I don't trust her. I think her privacy should be respected, but I wish she wouldn't mix government and private business.
* She clearly breaks many minor laws, but apparently few major ones (I reserve judgment about Troopergate. That investigation was open long before she ran for VP and the guy who said it could be an "October Surprise" was just stating the obvious.)
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Re:Maybe the media is what he wants.The fact her email address had gov in it pretty much says she was using it for business. Secondly if you sift through the zip file you can find subjects to business related emails and...
From the wiki leaks article: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/VP_contender_Sarah_Palin_hackedAccording to the Guardian, who has looked at the Wikileaks data, among the emails in Palin's account were several from addresses belonging to her aides, including a draft letter to California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, a discussion of nominations to the state court of appeals, and several bearing "DPS", the acronym for the Alaska Department of Public Safety. DPS supervises the Alaska state troopers. Could the e-mails in question be relevant to the brewing ethics storm over Palin's push to sack her former brother-in-law from the force?
The kid did something stupid and wrong. He should be punished for this but I can't believe the media and law officials are going to ignore the fact she used it for work. I'm surprised the accounts were deleted (and yes no doubt by her) because the leaked stuff implies things and she probably doesn't want anyone enquiring about it. She's already in trouble with troopergate.
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Re:Maybe the media is what he wants.
When this whole thing came out, I learned that Sarah Palin was illegally using personal email accounts for business email, supposedly to avoid leaving the electronic trail.
THAT was eye opening.
I've heard the same thing too, yet I have not yet seen any evidence whatsoever that she was using personal email for government work. The only emails I saw was stuff that I wouldn't want on tax-payer-funded servers anyway.
Can you provide links that show the emails that were concerning state business? If you can, I would like to see them. If you can't, then you really shouldn't be making such charges. And yes, I saw THIS page. The closest thing I have found that fits what you describe is the subject only. Without the body of the email, it means nothing.
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Re:indict Palin
Why should she be indicted? None of her emails were very inappropriate.
Government officials have record and reporting requirements. By using an external E-mail provider, she avoided those.
even though her personal emails have been exposed and cleared as appropriate
The account was called "gov.palin" and contained messages like this:
According to the Guardian, who has looked at the Wikileaks data, among the emails in Palin's account were several from addresses belonging to her aides, including a draft letter to California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, a discussion of nominations to the state court of appeals, and several bearing "DPS", the acronym for the Alaska Department of Public Safety.
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_inbox_2008
Let it go--she obviously wasn't, and we know that thanks to the idiot who accessed her emails.
She was using the account inappropriately, that much is clear. One can argue about whether this should be a big deal, given that there was no obviously incriminating information she was trying to hide.
I'd usually say this shouldn't be a big deal. But given her apparent history of abuse of power, this is quite relevant.
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Also in Bavaria
Here is some information on Bavarian police interception of Skype. http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Skype_and_SSL_Interception_letters_-_Bavaria_-_Digitask
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Re:Talking to the Police is a bad Idea
And we all know since there's no specification for EXIF data that someone who has a vested interest in removing it would be unable to figure it out.
I'm thinking aloud here, but - JPEG is a lossy alogrithm with all sorts of things you can tweak in terms of image quality. And image sensors on cameras never give you a perfect image - there's always a certain amount of noise. The processor on the camera generally applies some sharpening as well. I wonder if, given a JPEG image straight off the camera with EXIF information removed, it would be possible to deduce the make/model?
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Re:Talking to the Police is a bad Idea
And we all know since there's no specification for EXIF data that someone who has a vested interest in removing it would be unable to figure it out.
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Re:This Just In
But she didn't conduct any official business with the yahoo account! All that was in it were family pictures and emails to her friends.
Really? How do you know that?
Do these sound like personal emails to you?Subject: Draft letter to Governor Schwarzenegger / Container Tax
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)Subject: FW: Motor Fuel Tax Suspension
From: Meghan Stapleton (Press Secretary)Subject: RE: Using Royalty Oil to Lower the Cost of Fuel for Alaskans
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)Subject: Court of Appeals / Executive Director Parole Board / Boards and Commissions
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)Subject: RE: Please approve
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)Subject: Rural Wireless Service
From: McBride, Rhonda (Rural Advisor)Subject: FW: DPS Employee Draft
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)Subject: Re: DPS Personnel and Budget Issues
From: McAllister, William D (Communciations Director)Subject: FW: DPS Personnel and Budget Issues
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)Subject: Court of Appeals Nominations
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)Subject: another records request
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)Subject: RE: Scheduling - Week of 08.10.08
From: Mason, Janice L (Scheduling AssistantSubject: FW: Capitalizing on coal reserves, Crow Tribe strikes deal for $7B
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)Subject: Status report
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)Subject: FW: Special session press release
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)Subject: Followup.
From: Colberg, Talis J (Alaska Attorney General)Subject: FW: CONFIDENTIAL Ethics Matter
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff) -
Re:This Just In
You got an extra i on the end of that URL - here is one the works:
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Re:This Just In
She wasn't using the account for gov business, at least not based on what was posted on wikileaks, or according to the purported "Hacker".
That's actually not true. If you take the time to look at the information posted on wikileaks, you'll notice a number of emails have titles such as "Draft letter to Governor Schwarzenegger / Container Tax", "Court of Appeals / Executive Director Parole Board / Boards and Commissions", "Re: DPS Personnel and Budget Issues", "Court of Appeals Nominations", "FW: CONFIDENTIAL Ethics Matter". Those definitely sound like official state business, although it's impossible to know now that the account has been deleted.
As for the lack of any sort of incriminating information, what does that prove? It's not an official email account. There's no requirement that the information is archived; if any of the emails did contain information that would provide evidence of wrongdoing, Palin can simply delete them at any time. That's the issue: Palin promised transparency in government, but she's done the opposite, and has made herself unaccountable for her actions as Governor.
For the complete list of emails, see: http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_inbox_2008i
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Re:I can't imagine schools will be too happy
There's certainly this documented case: http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Faculty_in_league_table_expulsion
I don't know if your university was particularly good about this, but you'd better believe that a lot of 'people skills' schools engage in this kind of encouragement of their students to boost evaluations. And I've certainly seen subtle signs of it in teachers who casually violated the confidentiality part of the teacher evaluations, and at least one part where it got a student's grade lowered.
Like any evaluation, it's worth taking with a grain of salt, and looking for political and fiscal reasons for it to be evaluated.
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Re:keyloggers on student laptops is not hacking ..
Thnk about it for a second. You don't install a keylogger on a server and then capture logins from students from remote machines
... the keyloggers were installed on the students' laptops. This is NOT "hacking" or "cracking" the university's computers. He installed keyloggers on up to 37 other students' laptops to capture their login info.You obviously haven't even read the report. Please do:
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Censored_Cartleton_University_Campuscard_fiasco_2008The keylogger was installed on university Point of Sale terminal(s), not "laptops"...
And it was 32 students, not 37...
Try again.
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Anonymous who?It is important to keep in mind that, in the absence of a PGP signature or some other non-forgeable means of verification, there's no way to be able to tell that this"The activist group called "anonymous" is indeed the same or different people than "the group best known for its jousts with the Church of Scientology."
Anybody can call themselves anonymous.
The wikileaks site seems to be slashdotted at the moment.
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Re:No way to tell?
Ok here's the full list of Wikileaks domains:
* http://www.wikileaks.org/
* https://secure.wikileaks.org/
* https://wikileaks.cx/
* http://wikileaks.org.uk/
* http://www.cauce.us/wiki/Wikileaks
* https://secure.wikileaks.be/
* https://secure.freedomsbell.org/ â" alternative name to bypass the Great Firewall of China
* https://secure.libertypen.org/ â" alternative name to bypass the Great Firewall of China
* https://secure.ljsf.org/ â" alternative name to bypass the Great Firewall of China
* https://secure.sunshinepress.org/ â" alternative name to bypass the Great Firewall of China -
Re:No way to tell?
Ok here's the full list of Wikileaks domains:
* http://www.wikileaks.org/
* https://secure.wikileaks.org/
* https://wikileaks.cx/
* http://wikileaks.org.uk/
* http://www.cauce.us/wiki/Wikileaks
* https://secure.wikileaks.be/
* https://secure.freedomsbell.org/ â" alternative name to bypass the Great Firewall of China
* https://secure.libertypen.org/ â" alternative name to bypass the Great Firewall of China
* https://secure.ljsf.org/ â" alternative name to bypass the Great Firewall of China
* https://secure.sunshinepress.org/ â" alternative name to bypass the Great Firewall of China -
Gov't Maximally Effective Torture Method. wikileak
scopolamine injected into the cerebral-spinal fluid: ANYone will admit to ANYthing within 24 hours, period.
"Lecture on torture techniques by Dr. Larry Forness of the American Military University (Dec 2005). The document explains the rationale behind torturing prisoners, torture methods, and a justification for ignoring international law. Forness advocates the injection of truth serums, threatening to inject Muslim prisoners with pigs' blood, and torturing detainees' friends and family."
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Torture,_interrogation_and_intelligence
straw effigy, my ass.
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Re:... and your chicks for free.
"this sounds like they're re-inventing the radio license fee, but without having to provide extra programming paid for by that fee"
Which sound like net neutrality for music. IOW: They want you to pay at both ends but here they want you to pay over and over.
-You pay to buy the CD or DL for music that you like.
-You pay your ISP for the music that you may (not) like.
-You pay ??? the Blank CD tax for the music that you may (not) like.-you pay for the MP3 version because you go to jail for ripping CDs (Coming soon to Canada)
-You pay for replacing the MP3 versions when they seize your MP3 player while crossing the border (Coming soon via ACTA)
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Proposed_US_ACTA_multi-lateral_intellectual_property_trade_agreement_(2007) -
false reports wikileaks forced to remove paper
Wikileaks posted the wrong paper, realized it, and took it down. The paper they had was published quite openly on the arxiv.org archives:
http://arxiv.org/abs/0803.2285
Read wikileaks own discussion of the event:
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Talk:Censored_Milfaire_Classic_Oyster_Card_break_paper_2008
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Re:Wikileaks problems?
The doc that appeared on Wikileaks was an older document about the cards, not the current doc that details the cloning, so thats why it was removed.
https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/Censored_Milfaire_Classic_Oyster_Card_break_paper_2008 -
Re:ENOM !
a great majority of hosting industry uses enom.com . its probably the biggest registrar out there. the only problem is acquiring a reseller account, because they dont sell like godaddy. but, you can acquire an account either directly through them by depositing a huge chunk of cash, or from their levle 2 resellers.
This is a late post for sure, but maybe you'll notice it sometime.
:)ENOM is big like GoDaddy, and I don't believe they are very nice people, either.
Check out:
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/WIKILEAKS.INFO_censored_by_eNom_and_Demand_Media
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Nuke blueprints...
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Re:They want control but should not have it.
You mean like what is already being discussed?
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I wonder...
Was this legislation some sort of delayed response to the Julius Baer mess that Wikileaks blew open a while back?
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Re:Links please?
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Re:Um, Replacing Charity Ads?No it doesn't:
The second phase - a traditional ad-selling campaign runby 121 Media selling ad space to various listed companies, for the 2 weeks of the trial itself, during which time, the ads would be placed to "replace" ads by various named charities with the ads of the companies on the list according to PageSense technology. The affected charities were Oxfam, Make Trade Fair, and SOS Children's villages.
It is unclear as to where this charity ad obliteration was occurring, there is no indication that the charities were paid for such ads, nor that their consent was obtained. It should be noted that the financial accounts for 121Media for the period in question do not appear to show any charitable donations.
The issue as to whether the obliterated charity ads were on Google search result pages, is currently being investigated.
from http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Talk:British_Telecom_Phorm_PageSense_External_Validation_report -
Re:Tor, Freenet, and I2PLast I heard, our government was interested in USING tor. US goverment agencies have failed at creating their own anonymous proxies, and tor--created and run by just about anyone interested--provides a much more anonymous set of proxy IPs than the government has been able to produce on their own. Wikipedia and Wikileaks will both back that up. To quote:
The United States Navy funded the original onion routing research that led to the development of the Tor network, which is now funded by the Electronic Frontier Foundation. -
Re:The Memory Hole and its 'Fellow Travellers'
The Memory Hole is a pretty good site, especially when people are insisting how there are no terrorists because of the war on terror, or how profiling against brown people will save us. That said, it already looks mostly defunct without the help of the government, with the main page last updated in 2006, and links to a blog that almost certainly isn't Russ Kick's anymore.
Crytome is good too, collecting bits of information on certain topics from around the world, but it doesn't really filter for anything (top stories: new foia releases and LANL can't make nukes very fast, ho hum) so finding anything amazing is basically a matter of figuring out what's interesting to you out of the list of stuff they run, and the vast majority of it is stuff that's already openly published in some lonely corner of the world, and is just being brought to light.
Now wikileaks, that one's a site I'd vote for. Just about everything there is hot-button and wanted shut down by someone. Unfortunately, given that their SSL cert is now 2 weeks expired and their "SSL Mail" was what they claimed to be an alternative to PGP, perhaps they're already coming apart at the seams. -
The Memory Hole and its 'Fellow Travellers'
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Re:Mediadefender is the Punisher'One bureau source told THREAT LEVEL that it was a "gray" area in federal computer security law.'
Black: An individual DoSing a big company
White: A big company DoSing a small company
Grey: A big company DoSing another big companySeems pretty straightforward to me.
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Re:Bizarreness matters too
Personally, its not in the beliefs at all.
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Re:Bizarreness matters too
Personally, its not in the beliefs at all.
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Re:Remember, Remember the 5th of whenever! - IDIOT
If you are going to make a statement, at least try to fake being a little more informed.
The U.S. repeatedly proposes such overreaching police state security measures and fails due to citizens taking a stand. Yes we have Gulags, but they are dealt repeated blows in the courts. Americans make mistakes, but we do not sit idly by while it happens.
When someone tries to take more control there are always others who step in to fight back. That is our history. We are rebels. We started a country as rebels. And we continue to rebel. That's why you can sit on this site and bitch all day. Try posting an article saying how much you hate your leaders in India or China or Russia and watch yourself disappear into rotting, rat infested jails, never to be seen again. Try saying that China is a totalitarian state, in China, on the internet, and see what happens, douchebag. Or try to look at some porn on the internet in China and spend 3-10 years in jail.
America is not perfect. But I am fucking sick of people saying that the alternatives are better. We make a lot of mistakes. We are people. People make mistakes. But at least we try to correct them. The abuses of the Bush administration are being swept out with vigor right now. There is a cycle here. The cycle elsewhere is a never ending one of oppression.
Um, Russia is becoming more free? Are you insane? Seriously learn a little something about the world before you say something stupid. Have you bothered to listen to former chess champion Gary Kasperov? The "elections" they just had where Putin's hand picked successor got 98% of the vote in Muslim parts of the country, where the Russian government is hated. Or how about forcing entire companies to vote while your boss watches you? Or about about placing your vote in the open with AK-47 armed guards standing over you. Guess who you vote for?
And didn't we just have a story about China the other day where they are looking to build an all seeing eye of linked facial recognition systems and hidden cameras?
A friend of mine went to China an few years back and the police burst into his room looking for unmarried couples sleeping together. They were going room to room in the hotel. Or how about taking a look at these pictures of dead Tiben monks, a group of peaceful non violent people by nature who were "rioting". http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikileaks_releases_over_150_censored_videos_and_photos_of_the_Tibet_uprising
Look at them if you have the stomach.
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Re:OK...
You actually missed one of the wiki* in this conflict. In particular, Wikileaks is reporting that the Wikimedia Foundation is suppressing a news item on Wikinews about Wikipedia.
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Re:Do we need a WikiNewsNews?I wonder how much of this is just a thoughtless mistake. Wikipedia itself has a quote in (at least) one of it's help sections (pertaining to article editing):
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." And let's face it, the top management at Wikipedia (and many other organizations) often do a lot a stupid things despite themselves.
Also talk about FUD; the "child pornography" they were talking about is of album art from a famous heavy metal rock band: The cover is from a 1976 album of the Scorpions titled 'Virgin Killer' and has the image of an underage girl, posing nude, with an crack crossing over her genitals, but nothing blocking out her breasts. The girl appears to be around 10-years-old. - Ref. http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikinews_suppressed_Wikipedia_pornography_investigation -
Wikileaks
Interesting, my workplace uses the Smartfilter censorship software to keep us from, you know, doing our jobs, and just noticed this gem:
You cannot access the following Web address:
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikinews_suppressed_Wikipedia_pornography_investigation
The site you requested is blocked under the following categories: Hate Speech, Historical Revisionism, Extreme
You can:
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The powers of be must HATE that site. I don't think the Historial Revisionism thing even exists on Smartfilter's official list of categories to censor. -
Re:Order of the Arrow
This article article mentions Wikileaks, Wikimedia and a Wikinews article linking to the Wikileaks article.
Nowhere is Wikipedia mentioned in the article. Wikipedia is a Wikimedia project, but they're not one and the same.
Yes, that's a lot of Wiki there, but Wikipedia is not once mentioned in the article. -
Re:Order of the Arrow
This article article mentions Wikileaks, Wikimedia and a Wikinews article linking to the Wikileaks article.
Nowhere is Wikipedia mentioned in the article. Wikipedia is a Wikimedia project, but they're not one and the same.
Yes, that's a lot of Wiki there, but Wikipedia is not once mentioned in the article. -
Re:Where is wikileaks?From: http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikileaks:About
Is Wikileaks concerned about any legal consequences? Our roots are in dissident communities and our focus is on non-Western authoritarian regimes. Consequently we believe a politically motivated legal attack on us would be seen as a grave error in Western administrations. However, we are prepared, structurally and technically, to deal with all legal attacks. We design the software, and promote its human rights agenda, but the servers are run by anonymous volunteers. Because we have no commercial interest in the software, there is no need to restrict its distribution. In the very unlikely event that we were to face coercion to make the software censorship friendly, there are many others who will continue the work in other jurisdictions.
I know that doesn't directly answer the question, but basically they're saying that it doesn't matter if they get sued. Someone else will take the reins. -
Re:Where is wikileaks?
From wikipedia: Wikileaks is hosted by PRQ, an internet service provider in Sweden
Also: Wikileaks information is distributed across many jurisdictions, organizations and individuals. [From: http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikileaks:About%5D -
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Re:Pfft, Wikileaks
If you can't trust a thing on the site, why bother reading it?
I don't think you're right about the philosphy of Wikileaks either; it's not just "a place to put up any document". The Wikileaks "editors" are trying to build credibility and integrity. From the "Writer's Kit" section, they want to "understand the document, summarize and explain, question veracity and motives, cite references, and make conclusions supported by facts". I'm arguing that they're failing miserably, as shown by the JP Morgan article. The writer didn't understand the topic, does not cite any references, and none of the conclusions are supported by the facts. When someone who did understand the issue tried to fix the page (ie me), an obtuse admin reversed it.