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Re:ARGH
So what you are saying is, it is OK for M$ to steal people's bandwidth because 'er' 'um' they are stealing from everyone with windows installed
I didn't say that. I said is wasn't as much a concern as say the invasion of the interface. 3GB for the average household is a drop in the bucket these days.
Mind you they are not stealing once but hugely invading your privacy with the install and stealing all your personal data, monitoring everything you do, key logger, network connections, files, emails, skype, invasively and pervertedly prying into every inch of your private life. As far as they are concerned no choice, bend over, drop your pants and pucker up the windows probe is ready to be inserted, want it or not. There is not defence for this abuse and they should be criminally punished for it.
I wasn't tackling that issue but regardless they have OPT OUT options. One could argue they should be off by default but it's not so...
If you take 1 minute and portray MS as a good guy for once. Check this blog post that explains why they did this, how it's benefited the OS and how MS understands trust is required and needs to be earned...
https://blogs.windows.com/wind...What most forget to include as part of their rant on MS is that no "sensitive" data is collected on purpose. It's the same as crash logs in Windows 7. A crash log report can be sent to MS and there's a chance sensitive data is included. That's reality but isn't the objective of the exercise. I think people reveal far more private information on social media than Windows 10 ever will.
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Re:"with the same characteristics"
From the blog at https://blogs.windows.com/msed... there are two differences
1. It does not expose the bindings to Windows platform
2. Instead of COM based diagnostic APIs, there provide a different set for Open source one. -
Re:Free video in Edge will be silent
does not make it the all-around best web browser.
Who said Edge was the best all-around web browser? Your premise is faulty. You're arguing the wrong point.
and it fails to support free audio and video data formats.
You yourself linked to their roadmap for adding support for these. Edge supports Opus in ORTC (Skype, now owned by Microsoft, did contribute SILK to Opus after all) and VP9 support is coming. VP9 video won't be "silent" in Edge as you claim. In DASH the audio and video streams can be separate so you can easily have VP9 video and, say, AAC audio. YouTube streams video like this.
Edge is going to support Opus in the video and audio tag eventually. Microsoft is part of the Alliance for Open Media which is working towards a new royalty-free video codec (aka NetVC). Additionally, Windows 10 has Matroska (aka the superset of WebM) and FLAC support.
Microsoft is open sourcing Edge's JavaScript engine. And don't forget that with Edge's improvements to asm.js performance, and with WebAssembly support in the future, audio codecs become practical to implement in JavaScript.
Take the time to study Edge and Microsoft's direction with this stuff. They're doing a lot.
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Free video in Edge will be silent
Following open web standards
Which will reportedly soon include compatibility with royalty-free web codecs such as the WebM project's VP9. Yet video in royalty-free formats on Edge will be silent, as the same page states that support for royalty-free audio codecs Vorbis and Opus, used with WebM video, is still "under consideration". And does the only operating system for which Edge is available respect the privacy of web users, or does it by default report every visited URL to Microsoft?
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Free video in Edge will be silent
Following open web standards
Which will reportedly soon include compatibility with royalty-free web codecs such as the WebM project's VP9. Yet video in royalty-free formats on Edge will be silent, as the same page states that support for royalty-free audio codecs Vorbis and Opus, used with WebM video, is still "under consideration". And does the only operating system for which Edge is available respect the privacy of web users, or does it by default report every visited URL to Microsoft?
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Re:Edge is IE
Chakra, Edge's JavaScript engine, is going open source.
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Re:Android OnlyActually... No. Windows Phone updates have to be approved by carriers.
We work closely with our carrier partners, and encourage them to test our software as swiftly as possible. But it’s still their network, and the reality is that some carriers require more time than others. By the way, this carrier testing is a common industry practice that all of our competitors must also undergo. No exceptions.
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Re:Still won't work in Internet Explorer
No web browser supports H.265 (aka HEVC) video. In contrast Firefox, Chrome, Opera, and soon Microsoft Edge support VP9 video. So don't worry about H.265 for browsers. Just use VP9 and be happy.
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Re:What's for cows
The keygen feature has been deprecated. It's likely edge will support more open formats in the future: http://blogs.windows.com/msedg..., including opus+vorbis.
Between firefox, chrome and edge, I'd suggest that today it is chrome that has the greatest support for non-standard features, tracing back to the hastily designed extensions to webkit for the early iphones. In particular many non standard things like speed synthesis and recognition are only on in blink/webkit, as is WebSQL (which, to be fair, was at least once proposed as a standard, even though it was rejected). Those three features alone account for a 15 point headstart (17 if you count keygen) that chrome has over edge+firefox, even though their support should if anything, decrease the score.
It's no coincidence than non-webkit browsers started supporting -webkit- prefixed css properties - webkit has included a large amount of non-standard extensions over the years. Edge's declared preference for feature toggles (and firefox I believe prefers those too, exposing speech api's only if an about:config flag is set for instance) is friendlier to standardization because it means that non-standard features do not become entrenched and hard to fix.
If anything, a high score in html5test means a non-standard browser. Just take a look at the actual features where the major browsers differ and that amount to chrome's advantage - almost all of them are experimental, entirely non-standard, deprecated, or rejected. Why exactly should that count as standards compliant?
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Already exists (Project Astoria)
The thing you talk about - Android and iOS apps on Windows phones - already exists (in preview form, at least). Originally called "Project Astoria", Microsoft seems to have decided to call it Windows Bridges, and is only for Windows 10 Mobile (not out yet, but the previews have been publicly available for months). Android and iOS apps can be recompiled for Windows with minimal effort. There's also a feature of Project Astoria that lets you run Android APKs directly, unmodified, on W10M... but that one seems to be in limbo, and may or may not see official release (the Android permissions system is different enough from the Windows Phone one that it apparently causes some problems).
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Microsoft already has a solution for this...
Microsoft has two versions of Windows 10 for volume license users: CB and LTSB.
CB (Current Branch) is the same as what the home users have to deal with.
LTSB (Long Term Service Branch) however does things differently.
"For example, systems powering hospital emergency rooms, air traffic control towers, financial trading systems, factory floors, just to name a few, may need very strict change management policies, for prolonged periods of time. To support Windows 10 devices in these mission critical customer environments we will provide Long Term Servicing branches at the appropriate time intervals. On these branches, customer devices will receive the level of enterprise support expected for the mission critical systems, keeping systems more secure with the latest security and critical updates, while minimizing change by not delivering new features for the duration of mainstream (five years) and extended support (five years)."
Source: Windows 10 for Enterprise: More secure and up to date
https://blogs.windows.com/busi...
The only other solution I can think of would rely on setting up a WSUS server, and managing the updates from there. The OP would then just need to change some registry settings on his family's computers to point to his WSUS server for updates.
Instructions: Configure Automatic Updates using Registry Editor
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Re: Next...I fail to see how that is relevant here; we're not talking about PCs, but I'll bite anyway.
You do, of course, have to wait for your OS vendor (Microsoft) to patch your Windows PC, just the same as I have to wait for My phone's OS vendor (Google) to patch my Nexus device, or an iPhone user has to wait for their phone's OS vendor (Apple) to patch their iPhone. The difference here is that Google pushes those patches faster than Microsoft or Apple.
to further my point, though, since we're talking about phones: replace your PC with a Windows phone. Does your argument still hold up? Almost.The companies that make your Windows Phone handset—or even the chips inside them—also frequently provide us updated firmware that they’ve written, tested, and want us to include.
The implication being that, if updated firmware isn't provided, your phone doesn't get an update. Yes, updates all come directly from Microsoft, but they can only be released with the cooperation of the phone manufacturer. Also, although the updates come directly from Microsoft, they still require carrier review and approval before being released.
We work closely with our carrier partners, and encourage them to test our software as swiftly as possible. But it’s still their network, and the reality is that some carriers require more time than others. By the way, this carrier testing is a common industry practice that all of our competitors must also undergo. No exceptions.
Add to that, some (I'd say most) updates are hardware-specific, just as in the iPhone and Android world, and we get this:
One important point worth highlighting: Our update technology allows us to precisely target which phones receive an update. Since some updates are hardware-specific, we don’t send every update to every device.
So, why not just bundle all the drivers and firmware and features and crap into a single image and let the devices use just what they need from all of that? Storage. We're talking about devices that don't have much of it. The solution is to tailor system images to devices, including only the drivers, firmware, and apps that are appropriate for each device. And the carriers have the final say in what is allowed on their networks.
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Re: Meanwhile, in Canada
Why, then, is it not available for Windows 10?
It's coming over the next few months, but it seems that there is more to making a localised version than just understanding the language(s). They are obviously attempting to do more with the product on the desktop than they did on the phones.
I suppose it's understandable that they delayed it. If they made a crappy version available with plans to improve it later, then people would test it with their new Windows 10 setups, find it to be worthless and never touch it again. That said, I'll be turning it off if I do end up upgrading to Win10.
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Re:Quick question
What's new from a developer perspective; different than a system/admin or user perspective though https://dev.windows.com/en-us/...
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Windows Is Like An Aging 20th Century Prostitute..
...slap on another coat of make-up on its aging wrinkled & drooping skin, then send it out on the streets to make some money one more time.
Interesting to also note the U-Turn on roll-outs for Windows 10 according to Terry Myerson's Blog which says "Starting on July 29, we will start rolling out Windows 10 to our Windows Insiders". Who???
So those of you sat there eagerly waiting to download it come July 29 may need to demonstrate some patience...
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Re:I've got the DVDs waiting to burn .ISOs
as well as the fact that Microsoft has point-blank refused to clearly state that there will not be a subscription fee added at some point in the future
You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word fact, I would like to see where they "point-blank refused". It couldn't be clearer:
"There was some confusion, however, when Microsoft's Terry Myerson started talking about Windows 10 "as a service." Did that mean that after that first year of free availability, Windows 10 would cost an annual fee? I asked Myerson for clarification after the presentation, and he confirmed that there will be no additional fees attached to Windows 10, whenever you buy it."
http://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-windows-10-will-not-be-sold-as-a-subscription/And also here:
"This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no cost."
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/01/21/the-next-generation-of-windows-windows-10/The above link also explains what they mean by Windows "as a service" - hint: it doesn't mean recurring subscription fees.
I'm fairly sure you will find some way to twist these words to mean something else, or come up with some question they have implicitly but not explicitly answered (and that you probably haven't asked). So maybe you should just forget Windows and move to Linux where you have all the control.
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Re:"no official statement"
Other than the post on the official Windows blog, I guess
http://blogs.windows.com/blogg...
Although that doesn't say this is the RTM, just that "this build is one step closer to what customers will start to receive on 7/29"
Can you prove that Microsoft even runs that site?
It's a reasonable assumption that windows.com, which uses msft.net nameservers, which CAN be proven to belong to Microsoft, legitimately belongs to Microsoft.
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Re:"no official statement"
Other than the post on the official Windows blog, I guess
http://blogs.windows.com/blogg...
Although that doesn't say this is the RTM, just that "this build is one step closer to what customers will start to receive on 7/29"
Can you prove that Microsoft even runs that site?
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"no official statement"
Other than the post on the official Windows blog, I guess
http://blogs.windows.com/blogg...
Although that doesn't say this is the RTM, just that "this build is one step closer to what customers will start to receive on 7/29"
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Uh this isn't news...
How the hell it became news, I don't have a clue either. Microsoft said it was going to be released on July 29th, almost 28 days ago.
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Re:Solitaire
I'll forgive you for missing this nugget buried in a completely unrelated article, but the first line clearly states that the Windows Solitaire Suite will be included in Windows 10 (it was only 8 that went without, as if anyone needed another reason to dislike 8)
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Re:There's no confirmation of the release date.
The confirmation is on the linked-to Microsoft blog: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29
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Re:There's no confirmation of the release date.
Release date July 29th 2015
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Re:WSUS anyone?
More info here about the WSUS successor, and how it ties into system centre etc:
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Re:Last week I tried to write a Win8.1 universal a
It's just another example of poor naming.
For 8.1 there were Universal Apps which are the one project, multiple heads, common core code.
For 10 there is UAP which is one project, one set of code with an adaptive UI if desired.
See windows-10-developer-tooling-preview-now-available-to-windows-insiders for more info on Adaptive UX and UAP.
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Re:so, the key to amnesty...
We announced that a free upgrade for Windows 10 will be made available to customers running Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows Phone 8.1 who upgrade in the first year after launch.
This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no cost.
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Re:Bad usability, man
I wholeheartedly agree that the "flattening" and "thinning" of all of the icons has crippled usability for me. Sure, I grew up being stuck with DOS at home when I was a kid, while watching the Macs at schools progress to System 7 and their 3D buttons adding depth to the interface, back in the old days of UIs having to account for low-color displays (especially in the bad old days of Windows 3.1, where increasing the color bitdepth would reduce the amount of icons that Program Manager could hold in memory; I remember reading about that in the manual for a videocard, either Cirrus Logic or Number Nine). Windows 2000 brought in a really nice evolution of the 95 / NT 4 UI with drop shadows and menu fade-ins; on my Windows 7 PC, those are currently the only effects enabled (I've disabled minimize/maximize effects to eliminate the delay and distraction of those window sizing events).
However, with Metro, I feel that they've spearheaded a terrible trend, and put it on life support (with an assist by Jony Ive at Apple). Putting all of the touchscreen-centric exasperations aside (and I'm truly glad that Microsoft literally HAS put many of those aside in Windows 10), the Metro design language is too flat, too thin, and too sparse. First, the Segoe typeface is too thin. Yes, thin is trendy, and Jony Ive did the same thing over at Apple by putting Helvetica on an anorexia diet and making it the official typeface of iOS 7/8 and Yosemite. My second major gripe is the reliance on ultra-sparse XY grids of "icon boxes", with icons that are intentionally monochrome, so they can be vectorized (if you look at many trend-chasing websites these days, they use a web font to populate icons). I'm personally baffled, because multiple colors and depth add context that the human mind can interpret, and most OSes these days support high-resolution icons (Apple Icon Image Format supports up to 1024x1024; Windows icons go up to 256x256).
In the Softpedia screenshot of the Windows 10 Explorer, I don't mind the folder icons too much, though I do wish they could at least give them drop shadows in the icon itself, as was the case in Windows 7. But drop shadows are apparently forbidden because they would belie the "flatten everything" ethos of the Metro design language.
The way I see it, this will all phase away, much like another design era that was pervasive at the time, and had plenty of fervent proponents shouting down anyone who said anything negative about it: the 1970's era of bizarre typefaces and orange and brown everywhere: http://fontsinuse.com/tags/299...
I also find it hilarous that Microsoft used a George Orwell quote in one of their design blog entries: http://blogs.windows.com/blogg...
I'll volunteer another slightly altered Orwell quote: "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on an interface -- forever."
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Re:Wow
If I were in charge of that, you'd have it like yesterday
:)On a more serious note, at this point I wouldn't put it into the "never gonna happen" bucket anymore, just based on all the things I've seen the company do in the past year that were in that bucket two years before. But either way, it will take a long time - bash (and any Unix shell, really) really expects a lot of Unixisms from the environment that it runs it. Basically, I don't think you can get a proper *sh without having a proper POSIX layer underneath. And all we have today is Cygwin, which is basically a giant hack.
On the other hand, command prompt is getting some long needed love in Win10, and hopefully beyond. And when they asked about what people want from that effort, the requests for things Unix ranked pretty high on the list. These guys have said that they'll pay close attention to feedback, so I hope they'll deliver on that promise.
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Re:As a Windows Phone userThey didn't make the choice to exclude anybody, there is a technical limitation. The reason this first release is only compatible with those six devices is because they are the only six on the market with system partitions large enough to handle the in-place upgrade process. The higher-end devices have less free space on the system partition. They have a solution for this problem, but it is not ready for deployment yet.
Some context on why we chose these and not higher end phones like the 930/Icon or 1520: We have a feature that will be coming soon called “partition stitching” which will allow us to adjust the OS partition dynamically to create room for the install process to be able to update the OS in-place. Until this comes in, we needed devices which were configured by mobile operators with sufficiently sized OS partitions to allow the in-place upgrade, and many of the bigger phones have very tight OS partitions. Note that this doesn’t mean that Windows 10 will take more disk space than Windows Phone 8.1, it’s just a function of the upgrade process at this point. Once the partition stitching feature is completed, many more devices will be supported.
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Re:Windows on Pi?
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and it runs Windows 10
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Re:Fuck Winders
Why would anyone still run virus-infested Winders in this day and age? Just use Linux you retards.
The chances of getting a virus-infested Windows installation is next to zero if you don't knowingly install spurious software.
Windows has improved tremendously over the last few years anyway. Hop on the Windows Insider Program with the rest of us, grab your free copy of W10TP, and see how it feels. Every übergeek follows what is happening on the other side too.
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Maybe Some Clarification
Ars Technica was present at the announcement, and the Q&A afterward was both insightful and confusing. They clarify the free upgrade to Windows 10 as follows (emphasis mine):
Update: Microsoft fielded some questions about this upgrade in its Q&A session after the event. The company "hasn't decided" how it will handle upgrades from Windows 7 or 8.1 after the first year of Windows 10 availability ends, and it is "working on an update for Windows RT," but doesn't have further details to share.
Update 2: A blog post from Terry Myerson clears up what "Windows as a service" means, though the duration of "the supported lifetime of the device" is still foggy. "This is more than a one-time upgrade," writes Myerson. "Once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device—at no additional charge."
It seems to me Microsoft is still keeping the details close to the vest. So, for my money, the jury is still out for what happens in a year.
Still, as a strategy to get people to move off Windows 7 in a hurry, this is pretty good. You'd only wonder what would have happened to the XP user base if Vista or 7 had been free. On the other hand, this Windows 10 ecosystem is a really big gamble, and Microsoft desperately needs developers to make their platform compete against iOS and Android. Based on that, giving the first taste away free is a pretty ballsy move.
I only hope they don't try to recoup some of that lost revenue by filling Windows 10 with trackware and clickbait, forking out tons of your personal data to Bing servers because, well, that's where the action is.
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Re:Rent seeking
Feature availability may vary by device. Some editions excluded. More details at http://www.windows.com./"
There is no information on windows.com at this time
Sure there is, scroll down to the bottom:
*It is our intent that most of these devices will qualify, but some hardware/software requirements apply and feature availability may vary by device. Devices must be connected to the internet and have Windows Update enabled. ISP fees may apply. Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 Update required. Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1. Active Software Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to Windows 10 Enterprise outside of this offer. We will be sharing more information and additional offer terms in coming months.
So "excluded editions" are enterprise versions etc; most of which are already separately covered by Software Assurance etc.
And the feature availability may vary by device? I expect that simply means if your device doesn't have a camera no 2-way skype calling, if there's no microphone no 2-way voice, and cortana won't work. If there's no touch screen... there's no touch features. Etc etc etc.
I would not be making bold claims like yours just yet - we don't know their business model yet
Claiming they are moving to a subscription model for the OS is what needs evidence here. Yes, they already have a subscription model for Onedrive, and office 365, etc and yes it wouldn't be surprise to see that expanded. But there is no evidence of that here, YET.
"free for a year" in this context is pretty clearly an upgrade window, after which if you are still running 7 and want to upgrade you will have to pay. Just as if you are still running 7 you can't get 8 for $15 or $45 or any of the other launch deals that were available.
And if you build a new PC, and want to install 10 on it, you will have to buy it in some form. That is not going to be free.
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Re:Please no...
"*Hardware and software requirements apply. No additional charge. Feature availability may vary by device. Some editions excluded. More details at http://www.windows.com./" This basically let's them downgrade the "free version" into shitty "limited edition" and then ask for sub money for "full edition".
Not sure how you got that interpretation from the disclaimer. This is how it reads to me:
Feature availability may vary by device
Don't expect your Windows Phone to get all of the features that your laptop has.
Some editions excluded:
The limited netbook versions of 7 (Home Basic, I believe), and Windows 8 RT can't be upgraded to Windows 10. (Just a guess, I'm not sure if RT can or can't be upgraded, or if Home Basic is excluded).
Microsoft has made some stupid mistakes in the past, but I'm a fan of their new direction, and I can't see them bricking an OS right now. They are trying to get back some of their marketshare, and taking away features really isn't the best way to do that. Take off the tin foil hat, and read through the article again, this time with a little less FUD, and it sounds like it'll just be similar to the limited time $40 Windows 8 upgrade, only this time free for a year. -
Re:Only for the first yearRTFB:
We announced that a free upgrade for Windows 10 will be made available to customers running Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows Phone 8.1 who upgrade in the first year after launch.*
*Hardware and software requirements apply. No additional charge. Feature availability may vary by device. Some editions excluded. More details at http://www.windows.com./
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Re:Please no...
I read the original article this is sourced from. And then I read the small print at the bottom of the article that most people missed.
The article is actually spot on if you read the small print. But it looks like it's wrong if you just read the main article.
The main article states the following:
"We announced that a free upgrade for Windows 10 will be made available to customers running Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows Phone 8.1 who upgrade in the first year after launch.*This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no additional charge."
Note the asterisk.
Now here is what it says in small print under the article:
"*Hardware and software requirements apply. No additional charge. Feature availability may vary by device. Some editions excluded. More details at http://www.windows.com./"
This basically let's them downgrade the "free version" into shitty "limited edition" and then ask for sub money for "full edition".
The issue here is that Microsoft pulls a lot of money from windows tax. I seriously doubt that they are willing to lose this money. Either we're looking for an upgrade as a desperate means to push windows app store upon people (which doesn't exist in 7, which majority of PCs are on) or this is a classic "try before you buy" scheme which downgrades the OS after a year "trial". Either way, we just don't know. Original article's claim of "no charge" promise is pretty much gutted by the "feature availability" caveat. We'll have to wait and see what they do.
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Re:Rent seeking
Most people missed the small print:
"*Hardware and software requirements apply. No additional charge. Feature availability may vary by device. Some editions excluded. More details at http://www.windows.com./"
There is no information on windows.com at this time, but this small print lets them basically downgrade OS into shitty "free" version after a year, with additional subscription fee to restore full functionality. I would not be making bold claims like yours just yet - we don't know their business model yet
I would remind a lot of people here that windows division brings in a lot of revenue for Microsoft in form of infamous "windows tax" and I seriously doubt they're willing to just lose this revenue stream after investing as much as they did into it to keep it.
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Re:Wha???
Are you kidding me? Seriously. Are you kidding me?
Well, someone is kidding you but it isn't Microsoft, this is a complete fabrication in the summary.
Microsoft did in fact state the exact opposite in no uncertain terms: "We announced that a free upgrade for Windows 10 will be made available to customers running Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows Phone 8.1 who upgrade in the first year after launch.* This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device â" at no additional charge. "
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Re:No
From the official Windows Blog: http://blogs.windows.com/blogg...
We announced that a free upgrade for Windows 10 will be made available to customers running Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows Phone 8.1 who upgrade in the first year after launch.*
This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no additional charge.
It sounds likely that there will be some kind of a subscription offered in the future, but those who use this upgrade offer are set for the lifetime of the device.
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Re:Only for the first year
http://blogs.windows.com/blogg...
Relevant portion:
This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no additional charge.
Define "device".
Upgrade the CPU in your old desktop and your free, lifetime license will go out the ...
In the past they had the option to call a toll-free number and simply state that it's the same device and they'd give you the reauthorization key. I've used it and it's painless. But there's no reason to believe that that option will be offered in perpetuity. -
Re:No
No, absolutely not.
http://blogs.windows.com/blogg...
We announced that a free upgrade for Windows 10 will be made available to customers running Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows Phone 8.1 who upgrade in the first year after launch.*
This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device â" at no additional charge.
Microsoft is perfectly clear about this.
The article is wrong, the summary is wrong, and whoever decided to post something that links to Mashable's random interpretations should be fired.
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Re:Only for the first yearhttp://blogs.windows.com/blogg...
Relevant portion:This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no additional charge.
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Re: Friends
Or you can download the ISO, enter the key (it's all over the net), and set up an entirely fake user account.
Well, now it is here too. The key is NKJFK-GPHP7-G8C3J-P6JXR-HQRJR. Microsoft is using this key for all W10TP installations.
The ISO can be grabbed from http://preview.windows.com/ by anyone who needs it.
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Re:Because they says they can doesn't mean they wi
How's the weather under your rock? Windows 10 Technical Preview is officially available for download. Good thing they put this stuff out early, so users know what to expect from the finished version.
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Re:Alright smart guy
It won't be popular here, but you could choose any Windows Phone 8 device, register for the Developer Preview and get the latest OS running very nicely on even the oldest, slowest models.
ahahahahahahahahahaaaahahahaaaa
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Re:Alright smart guy
It won't be popular here, but you could choose any Windows Phone 8 device, register for the Developer Preview and get the latest OS running very nicely on even the oldest, slowest models.
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Re:How many unhatched chickens? So many.
Once operating systems have native 3D printing support (i.e. allow a printer to be plugged in and work without needing to install any third party stuff) , the technology will be pretty mature.
I guess it's mature: http://blogs.windows.com/windo...
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Re:Kinda funny
You're not 100% right, but you're close.
Some guy at Microsoft named Paul Cook (yep, that guy), wrote this. Microsoft is simply doing the right thing in an effort to limit the spread of infections. They can see it's not legit, they just don't care.
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Direct3D "light weight" runtime
On a related note, Microsoft are working on an update to Direct3D to provide a "light weight" runtime similiar to the XBone. Presumably, this will solve the same draw call issues that Mantle deals with.
Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like the update will happen anytime soon - maybe for Windows 9?
Also, it's unclear whether they will back port the update to Windows 7.