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Nokia E75 (S60 platform) does Internet streaming over wifi rather nicely. I bought it to listen to my beloved WOXY, but alas, they are dead right now.

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I'm curious if something like Wiibrew counts as circumvention. I used the Twilight Hack to install the Homebrew Channel. Mostly I use it for listening to my favorite radio station on the nice stereo in the living room. Though, I have downloaded some of the free applications from the website. I bought the Space Quest collection and play it under Dosbox* on the Wii on my TV. In the future, I might consider playing Gauntlet on it, though I might buy a used NES version to make myself feel better about it.

Is that so wrong?
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* I tried the ScummVM port, but it was crashy. The only problem with Dosbox on Wii is the mouse emulation for the Wiimote.

There's been some discussion of this on my favorite Internet station, WOXY. While the owners have assured us that there is enough revenue to sustain WOXY under the current model, all of their user-based streams would probably go away or be vastly different (P2P, in nature, instead of broadcast). Also, I got the feeling that "sustain" meant more "squeak by" than "doing peachy".

I've written both my senators and my congresscritter about this. Pretty please, do the same.

Cheers,
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The one thing that the labels still seem to have is a pretty tight grip on the music flowing into radio stations, particularly the corporate controlled (*cough*ClearChannel*cough*) ones; but the relevance of that mode of distribution is fading daily. Particularly if your audience is in a younger demographic, it doesn't seem like radio play is necessarily the requirement for sales that it once was.

It is indeed sad in a way. The Baloghs sold the FM license with a plan to go online-only . At the end of the day, funding wasn't there and advertisers wouldn't get behind the new format, and 97x "died." The day after they officially signed off forever, liasons for two anonymous investors approached them and offered a million or so to keep the station going until a business model could be found. Two months after that they came back online. They stretched the capital almost two years, and now they're looking for subscribers to survive (there was a story here on /. not too long ago).

The format is still "Modern Rock" which is a pretty wide classification. They also have a vintage channel (same subscription) which plays some of the older stuff that you probably heard when you were listening. You can find some of the quirkier cool old stuff on the vintage channel like "The Sweater" by Meryn Cadell. You can find the last 10 songs played on the vintage channel here.

They still use a radio like format with live djs, and they still take requests.

If you go to WOXY.com, you can listen to low bitrate streams for either channel if you would like to check it out without subscribing. Of course, the quality is worse than FM this way (because with FM you got noise, with MP3 you get tinny artifacts), but you can get an idea of the programming.

It is indeed sad in a way. The Baloghs sold the FM license with a plan to go online-only . At the end of the day, funding wasn't there and advertisers wouldn't get behind the new format, and 97x "died." The day after they officially signed off forever, liasons for two anonymous investors approached them and offered a million or so to keep the station going until a business model could be found. Two months after that they came back online. They stretched the capital almost two years, and now they're looking for subscribers to survive (there was a story here on /. not too long ago).

The format is still "Modern Rock" which is a pretty wide classification. They also have a vintage channel (same subscription) which plays some of the older stuff that you probably heard when you were listening. You can find some of the quirkier cool old stuff on the vintage channel like "The Sweater" by Meryn Cadell. You can find the last 10 songs played on the vintage channel here.

They still use a radio like format with live djs, and they still take requests.

If you go to WOXY.com, you can listen to low bitrate streams for either channel if you would like to check it out without subscribing. Of course, the quality is worse than FM this way (because with FM you got noise, with MP3 you get tinny artifacts), but you can get an idea of the programming.

Sucks to the RIAA's assmar
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In its "free" Guardian Unlimited form, at least the recent Ricky Gervais Show podcasts have included an ad for whatever UK TV network (Channel 4?) it is that shows My Name is Earl. I wonder if they tried finding more sponsors and failed. (In which case, see also, from just over a week ago: "Internet Radio Failing to Find Support?" on woxy.com going to a paid-subscription model for "premium" streams...)

This recalls the discussion we had a while back about online radio. WOXY.com (The Future of Rock and Roll) is also going pay to play.

All of the podcasts of live acts playing in their lounge and also the podcasts of the unsigned band show will be available for download for subscribers, much like the example this article provides.

It looks like the reality has finally hit that nothing is free. At least though, WOXY.com is a good deal. You get the podcasts, and real DJs streaming quality music live over broadband quality streams.

I personally wish everyone the best in their efforts to make entertainment sustainable, independent, and listener supported, both with regard to the new effort via iTunes, and independent groups like WOXY.com who have seen the future of quality entertainment.

Best,
Paul Henrich

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They say that royalties, reliable streaming, and staff are their biggest costs - they have real on-air personalities (who'll personally respond to email and play tons of requests), and they provide health insurance.

I love WOXY - Check their history page. I grew up in the Dayton area, so was able to hear them when they were FM. They were featured in Rainman as the cool-radio station because the moviemakers wanted the true, independent station, something that would be similar to KROQ back in the day.

I think the number of comments from fans of WOXY throught this article, point out that they've definitely found something that works - hopefully they can find a business model that will let them continue.

They say that royalties, reliable streaming, and staff are their biggest costs - they have real on-air personalities (who'll personally respond to email and play tons of requests), and they provide health insurance.

I love WOXY - Check their history page. I grew up in the Dayton area, so was able to hear them when they were FM. They were featured in Rainman as the cool-radio station because the moviemakers wanted the true, independent station, something that would be similar to KROQ back in the day.

I think the number of comments from fans of WOXY throught this article, point out that they've definitely found something that works - hopefully they can find a business model that will let them continue.

They say that royalties, reliable streaming, and staff are their biggest costs - they have real on-air personalities (who'll personally respond to email and play tons of requests), and they provide health insurance.

I love WOXY - Check their history page. I grew up in the Dayton area, so was able to hear them when they were FM. They were featured in Rainman as the cool-radio station because the moviemakers wanted the true, independent station, something that would be similar to KROQ back in the day.

I think the number of comments from fans of WOXY throught this article, point out that they've definitely found something that works - hopefully they can find a business model that will let them continue.

It is nothing close to "run of the mill". WOXY.com plays so much new music it would blow your mind. Besides the occasional Coldplay, Gorillaz, and Death Cab for Cutie (which WOXY played long before anyone else), WOXY plays music that corporate radio will not touch. It is heaven for an indie rock lover. On top of this, the djs are simply the best in the business. They know their music and they even interact with the listens by replying to emails, playing requests, and posting on the message boards. Radio does not get any better than WOXY.

They have a free low-quality stream if you go to http://www.woxy.com/ and click the listen now button. Listen for a little while. Please.

I see a problem when you try to switch from a working traditional model to a barely young one, especially when you don't have a name for yourself.

In independent radio circles, WOXY 97.7 did have a name for itself. It was regularly listed as one of the top alternative stations in Rolling Stone, and enjoyed extensive critical acclaim. As I understand it, their internet streams were constantly in the years leading up to the sale of the terrestrial signal.

Why Internet only?

Because the original owners of the station were reaching retirement age, and they needed to sell the terrestrial station to actually survive retirement. They couldn't guarantee that whoever bought the terrestrial station would keep the station format consistent with their original vision -- let alone keep the same staff -- so instead, they sold the signal and hardware, but stipulated that they would get to keep the music library, the brand, and the domain name, with the plan to obtain funding to take the station internet-only.

Why don't they keep their radio frequency, and use the net for free?

The radio frequency has already been sold. And using the net ISN'T free. There are broadcasts fees for internet broadcasts, and in fact, ASCAP royalties are more expensive for internet-only broadcasts than for simulcast over-the-air/internet broadcasts. And those royalties are about to get steeper...

Free is the word, b/c its with it that we share culture and grow... not locally or regionally, but globally.

Free is a nice word...until you realize free don't pay the DJs. Or their families.

This is by far the best station I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. I had already subscribed before the on-air announcement was over.

I highly encourage anyone with an interest in good music (especially of the modern rock variety) do themselves a favor and have a listen on the currently free stream.

The people are really what make the station. The DJs know everything about the music they play and add a very personal element to the station. They are also a huge force in discovering new interesting music and they somewhat frequently have "Lounge Acts" now where rising bands will come play a live set. Additionally they have a show called Unsigned@WOXY.com which features unsigned artists. Both of these are available as podcasts. WOXY.com also has full independence in what they play, unlike corporate stations which are payed for spinning certain tunes at certain times to increase ratings.

The problem is that radio has never been free, and now the people who used to pay (advertisers) do not know what to do with the new WOXY.com (BAM! The Future of Rock and Roll!). Is it a radio station? They don't broadcast on the dial! Is it a webcast? Well, its still very much a radio format! There is incredible value, but marketroids do not understand yet.

As other people have suggested here another major impetus is that most people don't have EVDO or EDGE in their cars. My hope is that subscriptions can carry the station over to a time when the rest of the world has caught up with the amazing things WOXY.com is doing; a time when we'll once again have The Future of Rock and Roll in our cars, except this time without geographic boundaries.

Overall, Woxy.com is the paragon of artistic integrity. This makes them very unique in what they have to offer, and I would highly suggest that you go to the web site, read their appeal, and have a listen. If you like what you hear, I HIGHLY urge you to support what 20 years from now will still be the preeminent independent music station with your assistance.

And no, I do not work for WOXY.com, I just really love the station for the knowledgable staff who provide a great service in providing music I would never have otherwise heard.

Best Regards,
Paul

WOXY already do podcasts of their in-studio guest appearances with some very good modern rock acts. That's something very rare for celestial stations anymore, and the fact that they make them available via podcast is even rarer.

And if you've listened to WOXY for any length of time, and are into modern rock, $10/month is nothing. Their jocks have an extraordinary skill into crafting their playlists and really immerse you in the music without feeling like they are indier-than-thou. I've been introduced to a wide range of music i might never thought I would like had it not been for this staff.

From the announcement on woxy.com's home page:

Our goal is to keep this ship afloat until we can find a business model which allows us to go back to being free, but in the meantime, we need you to come on board.

Really it seems their hoping the rest of the world -- advertisers, primarily -- will catch up with what woxy.com is doing.

Basically, woxy.com's business model is: traditional (but independent) commercial radio but over the internet instead of over the air. You would think that advertisers who would be willing to buy commercials on traditional over-the-air radio would be able to easily make the transition to internet-only (especially if they realized that audience measurement online should be much better than the wacky Arbitron and other sampling-based metrics for over-the-air radio). Further, it seems that internet radio's audience has to be growing, while over-the-air's audience overall can't be growing -- sure people listen to over-the-air in their cars, but how many people with desk jobs listen to over-the-air radio at work instead of plugging their headphones into their computer? I just don't get it that adevertisers (inc. the agencies) that have dealt with radio for ages just don't seem to understand that commercial internet radio is basically the same thing.

OTOH - I can get XM or local broadcast from my desk just fine, or just use my iPod.

One of the best stations in the country...

Give it a listen.

The staion go bought out, so they only 'cast on the web, but it rocks!

WOXY

Oxford, Cincinnati, Dayton, the world...

The Future of Rock & Roll!

Not only is WOXY.com an independently owned and operated web radio station that is commercial free and has live dj's M-F that play requests, they are also restarting their unsigned band contest as Unsigned@woxy.com an hour-long show and a podcast for unsigned artists.

Not only is WOXY.com an independently owned and operated web radio station that is commercial free and has live dj's M-F that play requests, they are also restarting their unsigned band contest as Unsigned@woxy.com an hour-long show and a podcast for unsigned artists.

I dunno, you can get pretty decent quality over 64mbps connections these days. The codecs are only improving.

As an example, I'll offer WOXY, a Cincinnati traditional radio station that has gone 100% internet. http://woxy.com/

They have 6 different streams for you to choose from depending on your taste in bandwidth and player.

Formally 97.7fm in Cincinnati, Ohio, has gone internet only. We can get the best and freshest Indy rock streamed to us daily with live DJ's during most of the day and limited commercials. woxy.com by far is the best internet radio station probably on the planet. They offer a beta aacplus stream, plus high and low streams. They also have live, in-house performances and other goodies for all to enjoy. And best of all, free for the listener! http://www.woxy.com/

I'm not sure why you would want to pay to listen to online radio when WOXY is free. And they are even currently beta testing AAC+ streams which sound pretty sweet. During the week they have live djs that play requests and they are always commercial free.

I'm not sure why you would want to pay to listen to online radio when WOXY is free. And they are even currently beta testing AAC+ streams which sound pretty sweet. During the week they have live djs that play requests and they are always commercial free.

That is a great station and it still broadcasts online: http://www.woxy.com/

Here is Washington we have a turd of a DJ named Jon Ballard on local cock rock station DC101 and one day when I was visiting Detroit on a business trip I heard him there too. WTF?!
The Detroit Free Press has a story about it Not so much that he's on two stations, just that he's such bad DJ that the world gets cursed at least twice with his presence.

Corporate Radio Sucks...Listen to this instead

XM is only 9.95 a month (after hardware investment) and so far I have heard my favorite band, XTC, more than I ever did on commercial radio. Listening to Dead Kennedys right now.

Of course if you don't want to listen to Sat radio then head to the Future of Rock and Roll at WOXY.COM. 97X - BAM! The Future of Rock and Roll (As seen in Rainman!). They stream over the 'net and are playing such delicious artists right now like the New Pornographers, Beulah and the Twilight Singers. Find THAT on your local alterna-pop, cock-rock rotating channel owned by the Borg (read: Clear Channel).

Sadly Clear Channel DOES have a stake in XM.

Who needs Corporate Radio?
I listen to 97X WOXY (they stream in broadband)and thanks to them I can hear new Guided by Voices, Ween and other stuff you don't get from crappy Clear Channel stations.

While I do not listen to much broadcast radio directly, I do listen to independent radio station WOXY over the internet every day. WOXY has introduced me to more new music in the past 3 years I've been listening to it than any other single source. That is one of the advantages of a god radio station, they can introduce you to bands that you would have never heard otherwise.

If we're suggesting good sources for sampling music, Let me also pimp my favorite modern rock station: 97X (WOXY) outside of Cincinnati. They stream their broadcasts, and their playlists reflect some of the best in modern rock today -- and a good majority of the music they play is from (surprise) small indie labels.

If we're suggesting good sources for sampling music, Let me also pimp my favorite modern rock station: 97X (WOXY) outside of Cincinnati. They stream their broadcasts, and their playlists reflect some of the best in modern rock today -- and a good majority of the music they play is from (surprise) small indie labels.

Mmm.. WOXY. 97x. Bam! The future of rock and roll. I listened to a local Alternative station yesterday that was promoting a "new song" that I heard on WOXY 4-5 months ago.

Plus WOXY streams in broadband..WOO HOO!!! It's the ONLY radio I listen to.

In Cincinnati its no different. Its either Clearchannel or Infinity. Although we do get WOXY which is independantly owned and operated and quite good.
Offtopic, but, just went to Cleveland a few months back and I have to say I am quite impressed with what has been done to the downtown area, the flats, rock and roll hall of fame, science museum, etc.. very nice. Cheers

Man made the CD player, looked at it and said "It is good."

And millions were freed from having to wait for the radio to play the song they wanted, and the fuzzy sounds of tapes all at the same time.

Yet, the same people who can't keep their headphones off were the same who complained about the corruption of radio.

WOXY is a good FM station that plays independent music in the Oxford, OH area. And they webcast. If only every area had a station something like it (because, I'll admit, I'd STILL rather use the CD player).

As seen in Rainman,.....
Small station has been rocking the boat for 25 years now playing nothing but the best alternative (real alternative).

Ironically I have to go here to hear bands from D.C. and I Live in D.C.

Plus they stream in broadband....
97X - BAM! The Future of Rock and Roll....

97x bamm! the future of rock and roll. www.woxy.com independently owned and operated in oxford ohio for 20 years. they had a commercial on a little while ago saying that on other radio station in the nation plays more new music and that "wasn't just an opinion, but a fact" It was also featured in the movie Rain Man for goodness sakes!

WOXY (as recited by Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man) has been one of my favorites for hearing good stuff. Also, the world cafe on NPR.

As anyone from Cincinnati can attest, the local Miami college radio station 97X (remember Dustin Hoffman in Rainman saying "Bam! The future of rock-n-roll!") is better than any other station here in town. The amount of cds in my collection that I bought after hearing it on that station, and that never would've gotten mainstream play is staggering. Unfortunately, due to reception problems and signal obstruction, I have to stream them here at work even in the same town.

Recently, they sent out a poll asking whether listeners would be willing to pay a small monthly amount in order for them to continue broadcasting online. Although they haven't announced the results yet, I'm sure that many people, like me, indicated that they'd be willing to pay to have great music available to them. I said that $5/month sounded reasonable, but I might be willing to go higher.

So if the station in the article is really that important to all those students, and those alum, maybe they can find ways of financing it. Besides monthly subscriptions, you could have a fundraiser with a band, sell tshirts, get more sponsors, whatever. I'm not familiar with the entire situation just from the article, but it doesn't look like the school in question even tried to keep this venture going.

A fight between the 800 pound gorillas and the public suffers.

You could launch a record and get it played on the radio for cheaper but it won't be on Clear Channel. Clear Channel does all kinds of evil stuff besides that, like piping in remote DJs and making you think they are local.

This sort of battle was inevitable when the FCC lifted regulations on radio ownership.

The solution for you, the public might be to try to patronize stations that are not conglomerate owned.

I DO listen to one radio station that is both terrestrial and internet streaming: 97X out of Oxford Ohio. Here's some of the NEW stuff I'm enjoying..
Elvis Costello
Hives
Cornershop
Idelwild
Girls Against Boys
The complete playlist is here

Great music that is bucking the current cock-rock trend of Linkin Park, System of a Down, Korn, etc. being offered by local Washington DC suck ass radio in the form of WHFS and it's "Most Played" list. (It's not Clear Channel, It's CBS, just as bad)

Then there's Radio Paradise.

Any /. geek would love this station merely for the technical expertise that Bill Goldsmith pulled off when he set this up.

Just boycott Clear Channel. Turn it off.....

You needn't follow the flock is you refuse to be part of it.

A fight between the 800 pound gorillas and the public suffers.

You could launch a record and get it played on the radio for cheaper but it won't be on Clear Channel. Clear Channel does all kinds of evil stuff besides that, like piping in remote DJs and making you think they are local.

This sort of battle was inevitable when the FCC lifted regulations on radio ownership.

The solution for you, the public might be to try to patronize stations that are not conglomerate owned.

I DO listen to one radio station that is both terrestrial and internet streaming: 97X out of Oxford Ohio. Here's some of the NEW stuff I'm enjoying..
Elvis Costello
Hives
Cornershop
Idelwild
Girls Against Boys
The complete playlist is here

Great music that is bucking the current cock-rock trend of Linkin Park, System of a Down, Korn, etc. being offered by local Washington DC suck ass radio in the form of WHFS and it's "Most Played" list. (It's not Clear Channel, It's CBS, just as bad)

Then there's Radio Paradise.

Any /. geek would love this station merely for the technical expertise that Bill Goldsmith pulled off when he set this up.

Just boycott Clear Channel. Turn it off.....

You needn't follow the flock is you refuse to be part of it.

Still one of the best independent stations around is, as Rain Man said:

97x... Bam... the Future of Rock and Roll
97x... Bam... the Future of Rock and Roll
97x... Bam... the Future of Rock and Roll

Still one of the best independent stations around is, as Rain Man said:

97x... Bam... the Future of Rock and Roll
97x... Bam... the Future of Rock and Roll
97x... Bam... the Future of Rock and Roll

Still one of the best independent stations around is, as Rain Man said:

97x... Bam... the Future of Rock and Roll
97x... Bam... the Future of Rock and Roll
97x... Bam... the Future of Rock and Roll

97x - WOXY

WOXY out of Oxford OH is a commercial station but they don't have a huge range but they DO webcast in a comparatively beefy 48k Stream.

These guys really are the future of Rock and Roll (It's their trademark). Here's the new music added this week.
the catheters : endless avenues
radio 4 : certain tragedy
prodigy : baby's got a temper
You see their whole playlist here. They're spinning the new Elvis Costello, Doves, Bad Religion. I got turned onto Irish band Ash and Swedish band Kent listening to these guys and I believe they are still the only stations in the country playing them.

Plus their 48K stream gets past the government firewall I am behind.

Ah musical serendipity!

97x - WOXY

WOXY out of Oxford OH is a commercial station but they don't have a huge range but they DO webcast in a comparatively beefy 48k Stream.

These guys really are the future of Rock and Roll (It's their trademark). Here's the new music added this week.
the catheters : endless avenues
radio 4 : certain tragedy
prodigy : baby's got a temper
You see their whole playlist here. They're spinning the new Elvis Costello, Doves, Bad Religion. I got turned onto Irish band Ash and Swedish band Kent listening to these guys and I believe they are still the only stations in the country playing them.

Plus their 48K stream gets past the government firewall I am behind.

Ah musical serendipity!

There are non corporate radio stations as well.
WOXY in Oxford Ohio.
Think they do a webcast over woxy.com.

to Clear Channel Stations..which is almost every station in the country it seems.

Here's a playlist to die for right now.... (Find a Clear Channel Station playing Josh Rouse or Pedro the Lion..)

It's from WOXY 97X in Oxford Ohio. You knew them best from the movie Rainman. It's the "97X - BAM the future of Rock and Roll" that he keeps saying over and over.

Best part is they stream in a nice comparatively meaty 48K MP3 stream.

Independent radio at it's finest with no cock rock.