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In OT 3,

OPERATING THETAN

Section Three

Hubbard explains his cosmology and the ins & outs of 'body thetans'. I will try to summarize it, because my lawyer, after having finally having seen evidence handed over to him on behalf of RTC, has advised me that including the full text is at this time against my interests. So be it. I therefore will give you this summary, interspersed with comments. Your comments are kindly invited. Please correct any errors and tell me about any information that I may have missed. Page numbers refer to the version of OT 3 as given in the Fishman Affidavit.

The following portion of OT 3 is quoted in full in Margery Wakefield's book The Road to Xenu, chapter 13, and I believe all of it has been quoted in other books and articles as well. It provides a nice context for my summary and comments:

The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger
stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very space
opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet - 178
billion on average) by mass implanting..

He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb
on the principal volcanos (incident II) and then the Pacific area
ones were taken - in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to
Las Palmas and there "packaged".

His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various
misleading data by means of circuits etc was placed in the
unplants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the
people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an
electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The
place (Confederation) has since been a desert.

The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never
recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc)
anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been
dispensed with by my tech development. One can freewheel through the
implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The
"freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc
and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and
not plow around and fail to complete one thetan at a time.

In December 1967 1 know someone had to take the plunge. I
did and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only
one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data now,
but only that given here is needful.

One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself
or to the body.

One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I.
It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing.

You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some
large, some small.

Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error.

Good luck.

(p. 76-77)

Well, lots of things to dissect and discuss here, and perhaps even more things that need some elucidation before we can even begin to understand what Hubbard says in this rather strange and condensed tidbit.

But before we start, I believe it may be useful to first explain some more about Scientology's basic beliefs; otherwise it's difficult to make head or tails of the quote.

Jon Atack, who once was a member of Scientology and who has in fact completed OT 3 before he became a very effective critic of the cult, has provided us with a very useful analysis, OT 3 rewritten for beginners. Here's what Jon says:

Scientologists believe that they have reincarnated from before the beginning of time. They believe that many interplanetary civilizations have existed. Hubbard restyled the spirit the "thetan"

Before the beginning of time, thetans existed, separate from one another (thetans were not created; they have existed for all time and indeed precede the creation of time). With the creation of energy and matter, thetans have gradually become trapped. The principal method of entrapment is through "implanting", where the thetan is hypnotised and given positive suggestions which limit its powers.

This process, according to Hubbard has been going on in this universe for four quadrillion years (4,000,000,000,000,000, rather than the mere 8-20,000,000 held by astrophysicists). However, this is just one universe in a series of several.

Scientology seeks to return the thetan's power by stripping away implants and using drills to heighten extrasensory perception and ability. The goal of these procedures is an "operating thetan" - a being who can act independently of his physical body, and can cause physical events to occur through sheer force of will. The "operating thetan" would be capable of dismissing illness and psychological disorder in others at will.

Now that we know that, let's go through it again. Here's how the story start:

The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger
stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very space
opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet - 178
billion on average) by mass implanting..

He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb
on the principal volcanos (incident II) and then the Pacific area
ones were taken - in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to
Las Palmas and there "packaged".

(p. 77)

Hubbard believes in various universes, an idea that has been explored in sci-fi under the name of 'parallel universes'. Hubbard postulates that 95 million years ago, in our particular universe, a Galactic Federation was founded. There are, according to him, seventy-six planets that have gained membership to it. Sure bigger than the United Nations, and very space-opera indeed.

According to Hubbard, earth was once part of this Federation. It suffered from severe overpopulation; an average 178 billion people per planet is indeed rather crowded. The head of the Federation, whose name is later on to be revealed as 'Xenu', although some people think it's 'Xemu' (Hubbard's handwriting is spidery, and thus easy to misread) took draconian measures to reduce the number of inhabitants. Xenu transported the lot of them to earth, then referred to as 'Teegeeack'. After transportation, Xenu used hydrogen bombs on various volcanos and thereby wiped out all these people. Very effective indeed. He then proceeded to carry off their souls/spirits or 'thetans' and 'implanted' those. This episode - the transport, the bombing, the implanting - was labelled 'Incident II' by Hubbard.

In the other universes, other things happened. All thetans on this planet and on twenty-one nearby stars have Incident II and 'R6' in common. Hubbard refers to these twenty-two planets as 'the Confederation'.

It might be worth mentioning here that the Sea Org's insigna carries twenty-two stars. The number of stars is surely not chosen haphazardly: the insigna is obviously intended to be a symbol of this confederation that had to 'suffer' Incident II.

The other planets within the Galactic Federation - there were seventy-six of them, Hubbard says - supposedly have their own version of Incident II. And other universes - remember, Hubbard believed in parallel universes - would probably have other versions of Incident II as well. But what all universes have in common, according to Hubbard, is Incident I. He describes it in just a few lines and obviously didn't give the matter much thought, or perhaps he didn't dare 'to take the plunge' into this one. Hubbard doesn't say how much time this incident took, nor does he locate it. He's also noteably silent upon what happened in between Incident I and II, if I may say so.

Peter-Paul Koch did extensive testing of DOM support in different browsers, including Mozilla.
It is available here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/js/version5.html

Do you want to check exactly what glitches Mozilla has? See link above!

P.S. other browsers are also far away from perfect.

Peter-Paul Koch did extensive testing of DOM support in different browsers, including Mozilla.
It is available here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/js/version5.html

Do you want to check exactly what glitches Mozilla has? See link above!

P.S. other browsers are also far away from perfect.

More details:
Features of the HTML rendering component in KDE 2.2
CSS2 support
And what professional people think about Konqueror

That has to be a darn small ISP. My ISP uses at least four incoming MX'es, eight maildrop boxes, four outgoing SMTP's and a couple of loadbalanced pop3 servers. The webservers are loadbalanced too and are running Apache on *BSD. Then again, they must have about 60.000 clients on dialup and DSL.

Actually, for an ISP [xs4all.nl] here in the Netherlands, if you sucessfully hack them and tell them about it without doing any damage, they give you a month free access. How nice. :-)

But yes, that would be an easy way to shut off these boxes spewing requests all over the place.

I find it understandable, not to say justifiable, and I'm pretty normal. Maybe I just have a better imagination than you do, or something.

Or as the saying goes,
"I am human and nothing human is alien to me."

This theory was advanced on 23 Aug here.

Lameness filter officially lame, film at 11...

The following links may shed more light on this whole thing:

Tim Krabbé's Chess Curiosities, entry #134 -- which links to further stories at Chlodwig's chess page and Leonid's chess theory page.

I, for one, tend to think that it is Fischer; the style of play is definitely not computer-ish at all, and as was pointed out, few and far between are the players who could expect to achieve these kinds of scores against strong grandmasters -- let alone with those kinds of garbage openings.

And for the record, I'm a player of about 1750 USCF strength; by comparison, a rank beginner is about 800-1000, a weak master is rated 2200 or so, and a strong grandmaster would be 2600 or above.

Maybe it would be more practical in the long run to just work on a way to produce what we need in space, instead of hauling everything up.

Time to go mining Cruithne, perhaps. :)

True. Last weekend I have been in a crowd of approx. 2500 (HAL 2001), most of which took their own computer so it should give an answer to who is using what OS, and why. This question remains unanswered. It didn't really matter, everybody had its own reason to use what he or she liked. A micro-cosmos of that could be seen in our tent (I was visiting the event together with folks from the Dutch Linux user group NLLGG). Of course, everybody took their own Linux box with them, installed with his or her favorite distro. There is some tendency to Mandrake for beginners and Debian for experienced users, but there are several exceptions to the rule.

At the end of the weekend, a 15-year old kid dropped in our tent who became interested in Linux. The kid had some clue (at least he was familiar with the "man" command :-)), was programming VB in Windows and knew how Internet protocols work. After some discussion, we sent him off with a URL of the nearest Red Hat mirror (he has a cable modem and CD burner at home), because that was the easiest way to go. Support in our user group is plentiful for any popular distro, however, Red Hat is easiest to get.

Brinkie

See my HAL 2001 Photo Gallery

He said that he had done some research on some topic (unfortunately I could not hear what it was about). He said he would go to the US next week for a conference and he feared being arrested if he would publish. Since he had mouths to feed and rent to pay, he said he could not afford to take the risk. So he decided to not publish his research. He urged everyone to protest against the DMCA which affects him as a non-US citizen. He did realise that at the HAL he was preaching to the choir...

Now there are other problems where the communication time is much less important, like the SETI programs, or many combinatorial programs that count things (e.g. http://www.xs4all.nl/~gp/PolyominoSolver/Polyomino .html

The reason why the latest i-patch doesn't work with newest kernels is because of some minor problems with the Makefile. For 2.4.7, I found this: http://www.xs4all.nl/~marceln/Misc/patch-int-2.4.7 .mn1.bz2. Works perfectly for me. I hope it works with 2.4.8 too :)

-Hans

Unfortunately, computers still cannot play chess as a whole game. They can easily be tricked and beaten by a way no human player of any decent level can be ever beaten. Just a little study of each chess program and voilas the way to kick it is found. That was proven by german chessplayer of expert strength (which is a rank below master) Edward Nemeth. You can read this story (which requires just a minimal chess understanding) here, item #129 and the author of the site has some other very interesting notes on the topic elsewhere in his diary. I wholeheartedly agree with him that computers are of excellent help in chess analysis, though!

• Paul Verhelst, Computer Chess Programming. Includes many other links.
• T.A. Marsland, The Anatomy of Chess Programs. International Computer Chess Association.
• A.N. Walker, Notes for a course at the University of Nottingham.
• Fox, Williams, and Messina. Chapter from a book called Parallel Computing Works.

...what effect does the DMCA realistically have on you? Does the US government have the right to tear apart foreign web sites?

Two words: Jon Johansen

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Knowledge is, in every country, the surest basis of public happiness.

One of our scientists just came from England, where there's a project to limit the speed of vehicles. Here's a link to information on the project.

There has been a similar project in The Netherlands. Follow this link.
It's based on GPS reception and digital mapping, basically the same technology as the car rental company used. But this is a one way communication only, since the interaction (speed limiting) takes place in the vehicle.
Maybe this is a lot better than fining your customer, just set a speed limit and you'll never get pulled over by a cop for speeding. But then again, how does the system detect work zones?

-brinkie

people try to steal our cars and take them to Mexico, EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I have checked out AirIQ's website and it looks like they're using cellphones to contact the base station, to transmit telemetry data gathered from the GPS receiver.
I used to work with the development of such tracking devices and cellular technology turned out to be a solution only if there's sufficient coverage of the cellular phone network. However, in Europe, where GSM has become commonplace, that is no problem. If you can get there by car, you can rest assured there's coverage. Roaming agreements between nationwide operators provide seamless coverage across the border.
So, how's that situation in the US? How well does a cellphone work in unpopulated areas? How well across the Mexican border?

-brinkie

I won't post the entire text of the scene ,but it starts off with Dingo saying how she does like this scene, and goes on (for 24 seconds) about whether or not they should include the scene in the film, ending finally with "Get on with it" shouted by all the soldiers from the near battle at the end.

My parents have long ago videotaped The Holy Grail from Dutch public television, I copied the tape to VHS (it was recorded on the now obsolete Video2000 system) and have seen the movie many, many times :) This version had some differences compared to the versions I have seen fairly recently on Net5 (Dutch commercial station) and the BBC. The scene with Zoot's worrying twin sister and "Get on with it!!!" is included in the old show, for sure. But I don't know if that scene has been left out in the newer shows, I should check the other two tapes.

Apart from that, the old show is in letterbox format (widescreen) and it has a trailer in which the Monty Python team apparently tries to hire an announcer. You see Arthur and a knight (Bedevere? I recall this from memory), with Arthur "knighting" (correct my English pse) the other with his sword. You hear a candidate saying "Once upon a time..." but the first candidates are lousy speakers ("Un-ce aa-pon aa ti-me..."), and they are replaced, "Next!" (I think that's Eric Idle). The scene starts over time and time again. Then you see the castle in the background collapse (it's only a model :)) and Arthur apparently gets bored, so he stabs the knight. Then a Chinese speaker turns up. It looks like this is the perfect announcer (with English subtitles), but it turns out to be a Chinese restaurant commercial ("Only 5 minutes from this theatre!"). I have a Mandarin speaking girlfriend and she confirmed that the Chinese is genuine.
After that, the movie starts, with the fake Swedish subtitles and so on. (Is this the reason the Muppets' Swedish Chef becoming so popular among geeks?)

-brinkie

... a cluster of thousands of well connected DeCSS/OT VII/<insert your favorite censored item> mirrors? Or will they firewall off HTML access to those virtual linux boxen? Wouldn't it be ironic if mirrors of this stuff turned up as well? IBM may have unwittingly set up a giant community blackboard here...

Karin Spaink's website is at this URL. http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink

"Picture 1980. Ted Nelson is running around with his Xanadu guys: Roger Gregory, H. Keith Henson (now waging war against the Scientologists) and K. Eric Drexler, later to build the Foresight Institute. They dream of creating what is to become the World Wide Web. Nowadays guys at hacker cons might dress like vampires. In 1980 they wear identical black baseball caps with silver wings and the slogan: 'Xanadu: wings of the mind.'"

1994-current. Work continues on the second XOC fine-grain hyper-sharin transpublishing server, under Roger Gregory and Keith Henson.

o In 1992, the Church of Scientology had become the first religious organization in Canada to be convicted of criminal conduct. Specifically, stealing documents from law firms, public associations and government entities -- and breach of trust. In addition, in the Casey Hill litigation, Scientology was ordered to pay millions of dollars to Canadian lawyer, Casey Hill, for slandering his reputation.

So, the Fishman Affidavit linkage would then also legally be approved by the US court? Or would the sciontology church actually have a stronger case then to make the rest of the world also stop linking to this 'copyrighted' document?

I've never really had a problem with tunelling, as most firewalls I've dealt with generally let out either HTTP (in which case, check out this site) or telnet.

While I know that telnet isn't secure; a rinky-dink server at home generally lets me get my job done in tunnelling.

From a hacker's point of view; you can use the Firewall-Hacking tutorial on linuxdoc (I believe it ends up pointing to This site)

The real point is that the moment you open up a port; you no longer have security. True security is having your machine turned off, not connected to a network, and in a steal cage...

The highest points on the Sears tower, the tops of the decoratively-enhanced dual antennae, are higher than the purely decorative spires atop the Petronas towers. If they served no purpose whatsoever, the Sears tower would take the prize. If you look at scale pictures of them together, the Sears tower looks much taller; any layman would pick it as the taller building without hesitation.

Of course, the CN tower easily has them both beat, though it doesn't have usable floor-space for most of its height (so it's apparently not officially a "building"!). The KTHI-TV broadcasting tower in North Dakota is even taller, though I believe it is supported by guy-wires (which disqualifies it as a "free standing structure" -- the CN tower's claim to fame).

More info here.
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Seems that this debate has been going on for a while.

This page has a good selection of puzzles.

According to this webpage they're protecting us all from dying from pneumonia!!!
Quoted:
"Anyone who encounters this material without having undertaken Scientology courses up to OT 2 will supposedly die from pneumonia."

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Here is the full text. Also Understand I'm posting this comment as a citizen of Maldives and that Church of Scientology would not have jurisdiction over me or my comments.

1. Church of Scientology International v. Fishman and Geertz

2. Church of Scientology vs. the Net

3. Scientology Court Files

4. Scientology Cult Attacks XS4ALL

5. Scientology v. the Internet

(Found via Google and Yahoo!)

Fisherman's Affidavit Sorry I couldnt past it cause of lameness filter.

I absolutely recommend the OT III for Beginners page, as mentioned in the article.
You will get a glimpse of what kind of BS the so-called "church" of Scientology tries to push forward...

As it says: "This document has been written with unix-like systems in mind. If either your local or remote operating system are of another flavour, you may find here how things work. However, you will have to translate examples yourself to apply to your own system(s)."

Side Note: There is also the issue of security on this that is mentioned in several places. Given the projected use of this, security becomes rather important.

How come so many Scientologists and Scientology supporters have criminal records? How come so many of them are losers who are taking their personal frustration out on the critics of their crimes?

We have Founder L. Ron Hubbard with his criminal conviction for petty theft for passing bad checks and with a record of wife-beating and drug abuse, who died on psych drugs while hiding from the authorities. Not only did his ex-wife and his own son describe him as a "paranoid schizophrenic" but a judge even described the cult he founded as "paranoid and schizophrenic" and stated that this was a "reflection of its founder." Among his other crimes, L. Ron Hubbard was sentenced to four years of prison for fraud by a French court, but he remained a fugitive from this charge as well.

Hubbard was also a child abuser, who forced his son L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. to take phenobarbitol and who was fined $50 and sentenced to probation for abandoning his own daughter in a vehicle.

Theft conviction
Wife-beating and drug abuse
Death on psych drugs coroner report
Described as a "paranoid schizophrenic" by ex-wife
Described as a "paranoid, schizophrenic megalomaniac" by his own son
Described as "schizophrenic and paranoid" by judge
Convicted of fraud and sentenced to four years in prison
Fined and put on probation for abandoning his daughter in a vehicle
Forced his own son to take drugs

Then we have L. Ron Hubbard's third wife Mary Sue Hubbard, who was convicted of felonies and served jail time for helping her husband mastermind the biggest domestic espionage case in American history, involving burglarizing government offices routinely and committing other crimes. Even her own lawyers admitted that she had committed these crimes, as well as 11 other Scientologists who were convicted of crimes including felonies.

Sentencing memorandum describing crimes as "heinous and vicious"
Stipulation of evidence admitting to multiple felonies by Hubbard and other defendants

Next comes the President of the cult he founded, Heber Jentzsch, who has just recently skipped out on a million dollars bail for felonies in Spain, making him a fugitive from justice and persona non grata in all of Europe. A habitual liar, who constantly claims that his cult has eight million members, this criminal can be seen in handcuffs all around the net, and can accurately be described as a bail-jumping felon.

Heber Jentzsch Spanish criminal charges

How come so many Scientologists and Scientology supporters have criminal records? How come so many of them are losers who are taking their personal frustration out on the critics of their crimes?

We have Founder L. Ron Hubbard with his criminal conviction for petty theft for passing bad checks and with a record of wife-beating and drug abuse, who died on psych drugs while hiding from the authorities. Not only did his ex-wife and his own son describe him as a "paranoid schizophrenic" but a judge even described the cult he founded as "paranoid and schizophrenic" and stated that this was a "reflection of its founder." Among his other crimes, L. Ron Hubbard was sentenced to four years of prison for fraud by a French court, but he remained a fugitive from this charge as well.

Hubbard was also a child abuser, who forced his son L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. to take phenobarbitol and who was fined $50 and sentenced to probation for abandoning his own daughter in a vehicle.

Theft conviction
Wife-beating and drug abuse
Death on psych drugs coroner report
Described as a "paranoid schizophrenic" by ex-wife
Described as a "paranoid, schizophrenic megalomaniac" by his own son
Described as "schizophrenic and paranoid" by judge
Convicted of fraud and sentenced to four years in prison
Fined and put on probation for abandoning his daughter in a vehicle
Forced his own son to take drugs

Then we have L. Ron Hubbard's third wife Mary Sue Hubbard, who was convicted of felonies and served jail time for helping her husband mastermind the biggest domestic espionage case in American history, involving burglarizing government offices routinely and committing other crimes. Even her own lawyers admitted that she had committed these crimes, as well as 11 other Scientologists who were convicted of crimes including felonies.

Sentencing memorandum describing crimes as "heinous and vicious"
Stipulation of evidence admitting to multiple felonies by Hubbard and other defendants

Next comes the President of the cult he founded, Heber Jentzsch, who has just recently skipped out on a million dollars bail for felonies in Spain, making him a fugitive from justice and persona non grata in all of Europe. A habitual liar, who constantly claims that his cult has eight million members, this criminal can be seen in handcuffs all around the net, and can accurately be described as a bail-jumping felon.

Heber Jentzsch Spanish criminal charges

>The first thing they'll do is sneakily install a proxy filter on your PC, just to make sure you don't see anything that might change your mind.

Yeah, I've heard about that. Apparently someone - with a complete lack of morals, I might add - reverse-engineered the base product CyberSitter, and this in turn led to the decryption of the ScienoSitter lists. ;-)

Thanks for the factnet link, that's just too scary for words :-(

Snapshot:

" The Church of Scientology (or: CoS; or: Co$, as some of their opponents call it) sells its followers expensive courses which, if students study them carefully, are supposed to set them free ('clear' them). A former Scientology member, Steven Fishman, was brought before court because he committed several crimes in order to get the money to pay for these courses. Scientology urged him to get the money any which way he could. According to Fishman, they also assigned him to kill somebody, and failing that, ordered him to commit suicide. In an interview for Time Magazine, Fishman relayed those stories and blamed Scientology for his crimes. Scientology sued him for slander."

Snapshot:

" The Church of Scientology (or: CoS; or: Co$, as some of their opponents call it) sells its followers expensive courses which, if students study them carefully, are supposed to set them free ('clear' them). A former Scientology member, Steven Fishman, was brought before court because he committed several crimes in order to get the money to pay for these courses. Scientology urged him to get the money any which way he could. According to Fishman, they also assigned him to kill somebody, and failing that, ordered him to commit suicide. In an interview for Time Magazine, Fishman relayed those stories and blamed Scientology for his crimes. Scientology sued him for slander."

Hmm.... it seems to have dissapeared at thefever.com. Some lame Trintium Gaming Network page instead.

Here's a mirror: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

This is a good example: xs4all.nl

does this system block his IP or his block of IP's, does it block the entire domain
That's one of the problems of filtering software, I was recently using a computer of Amerada Hess, the oil company, to access my (web based) e-mail. When I typed in the adress of my provider xs4all.nl I got the message that "this site is inappropriate according to the standards set by the company"....
xs4all is one of the most reputed ISP in the world so what made this silly machine think it should be banned, the combination of X and S in the name maybe?
Or was it the fact that the wel-known journalist Karin Spaink has her Scientology-critical site hosted by xs4all and is the blocking software infiltrated by Scientology?

I've had a shell account with xs4all from the very beginning when the name was hacktic. In 1998 they sold out to the evil local telecom giant KPN. Almost three years later it's still a quality ISP and if I need to get hold of a techie or even the CTO I can usually find them on IRC. If not, I can email them and they'll respond fairly quickly.

The Spider and The Goat

Here's an error message that was on the arrivals monitor at Schiphol Airport in the Netherlands.

FYI, Soundplay has been playing mp3's backwards for years. In fact, its believed by many people to be the first player that could play it backwards. So your big alsaplayer advantage is shot...

Oh yeah, on most Be systems soundplay can play about 30 mp3's backwards, forwards, and at different speeds... simultaneously, and without skipping.

heh but gtk is only useful as long as you are coding in c, wrappers for other languages lag behind...

and btw there are python wrappers for qt. check out following sites "Python + KDE tutorial"> and PyKDE

So the speed of RX J1856.5-3754 (about 85-100 km/s) is more in the lower range. What make this star interesting is not its velocity, but the fact that it is rather unique, because it does not show any activity (e.g. pulsations), unlike most other known neutron stars.

Also, as there is no gaseous shell from the supernova left, thus it must be quite old (at least 100000 yrs), but nevertheless the neutron star is still rather hot (as evidenced by its X-ray emission). This is puzzling because neutron stars have no internal energy source (unlike "normal" stars that are powered by thermonuclear reactions), and therefore should cool down continuously from the moment of birth.

There is an ESO Press Release about this object which offers much more info than the CNN article, yet is still written for non-scientists.

Anyone who tells you Scientology isn't dangerous or should be protected under freedom-of-religion doesn't know what Scientology is all about. It's no more a religion than, as another poster, Amway, but it's far, far more destructive. Where Amway will get you to do stupid things like try to sell cheap-ass junk to your friends and cost you some money, Scientology will destroy your mental health, estrange you from everyone you know, physically rape your friends and relatives, force you into slave labor to pay for the very classes that are ruining you, and, should you try to leave, will discredit you, harass you, defame you, file lawsuits against you, and make your life hell until you commit suicide (a href="http://www.xenu.net/">see xenu.net for details.) And, yes, you post anonymously when you speak out against them, or they'll come after you and your loved ones. I can take care of myself, but I wouldn't unleash them on my family for anything.

Religious protection.. hah.

The reality is that the CoS actively infiltrates governments. It's part of their cult mandate: LRon himself wrote "The goal of the [CoS] Department [of Governmental Affairs] is to bring the government and hostile philosophies or societies into a state of complete compliance with the goals of Scientology. This is done by a high-level ability to control and in its absence by a low-level ability to overwhelm. Introvert such agencies. Control such agencies."

Here's the internal CoS memo that ended up with the US IRS being infiltrated, a bijillion documents stolen, and ultimately the arrest and subsequent jailing of CoS members: [Infiltrate the IRS]. It is, of course, worth noting that in the end, the IRS dismissed over a billion dollars in backtaxes and granted the CoS religious exemption status... in a secret, shady, wholly unprecedented deal.

[This document] also provides some good insight.

The Greek government busted a CoS unit, and discovered [top-secret US military airbase maps.]

In Canada, the CoS stole confidential documents from myriad Ontario government organizations, when those organizations were investigating the CoS for various illegal practices. They CoS had operatives working in the RCMP, the Ontario Provincial Police, the Metro Toronto Police, the Ontario Medical Assoc., the College of Physicians, the Cdn Mental Health Assoc., and even the Attorney General's office.

The CoS is also infiltrating businesses: it offers a "training package" which is no more than Hubbardology in business guise. There's a bit of a write up [over here], and a bit of web-searching will dig up a lot more information about the repugnent tactics they use to abuse people to perform better.

Here are two great CoS information sites: [RickRoss] and [Xenu.Net] And it really takes no effort at all to use Google to dig up plenty of facts that will shock and astound you.

As evil organizations hell-bent on world domination go, the CoS is pretty much at the fore-front. Their adherents are fanatical beyond any rational thinking, their mandates to infiltrate governments, businesses and opposition groups is explicit and ruthless, and they have a pile of money.

Go do some web-prowling. The CoS is fascinating, scary and shocking. It's a better use of your time than surfing for goat pr0n!

[I'm probably now "Fair Game" -- which is kind of scary: in CoS words, I "may be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."]

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