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Honestly, man. You're getting all worked up about his estimate that the "average age" of H1-Bs coming into the country. Look at how much you typed before basically stating "[citation needed]". It was an estimate. You didn't need to type a 12 page double spaced essay on the subject. You could've proved he was wrong by now if you wanted to.

Exactly right- I can't think of a single more pro-corporation anti-American organization. Corporatism is the new communism- seeking to use the power of the corporate dollar through lobbyists to restrict the free market down to just a few oligarchial players.

The ITAA is for: Replacing all American high-tech workers with H-1b indentured servants, Removing Verifiable voting from American voters, is for guest worker visas to replace American Workers, and is headed by the guy who destroyed Cesar Chaverez's attempt to unionize farm workers back in the 1970s. And we expect a man named GARCIA from this group to be pro-USA enough to head such an important post?

JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER
                                          by Rob Sanchez
                              October 21, 2005 No. 1352
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Today I talked to Roy Beck of NumbersUSA to get some inside information about why the Senate Judiciary approved more H-1B and green card visas. He said the word is out in Washington DC that this was the result of intense lobbying by Microsoft. Last week lobbyists from Microsoft went to every Congressional office to lobby for more visas. Some people on Capitol Hill are actually referring to the Senate proposal as the "Bill Gates" bill.

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My source for the "Bill Gates Act" is this "Job Destruction Newsletter," sent out to a free e-mail list by Rob Sanchez. Although the Newsletter is archived at his web site:

http://www.zazona.com/

This recent one is not there yet.

Rob got his information from Roy Beck:

http://www.numbersusa.com/index

Prof. Norman Matloff of Univ of Calif.

http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.html

also sent this information out to his free e-mail list.

I consider all of these people reliable and well-informed, in contrast to the pro-industry propaganda found in MSM [Main Stream Media].

I can't suggest stories to /. since they apparently dump all attempted contributions from Win XP users, a bug that is not being addressed currently according to their bug list. - The wrong way to attack Microsoft, IMHO.

I would be grateful if you or someone would attempt to post this info, and even more the following time-critical info [e-mail from Norm Matloff: ]

---

To: programmer mailing list

I urge you to call and express your opinion, pro or con. (Obviously I support Byrd on this issue.)

Yes, CALL. And make sure you talk to someone who handles immigration, NOT whoever answers the phone.

The sample message below is far too complicated. CONGRESS DOESN'T CARE ABOUT REASONING OR LOGIC; all they understand is pressure. Keep your message short, just a couple of sentences. But make sure they understand that you feel STRONGLY about this issue.

Norm

----- Forwarded message from Sandra Gunn

Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:15:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Sandra Gunn
Reply-To: Sandra Gunn
To: matloff@cs.ucdavis.edu
Subject: URGENT ALERT! Senate Voting Tommorrow on Amdt to Stop Foreign Worker/Immigration Increase

URGENT ALERT FROM FAIR!

Senate Voting Tomorrow on Amendment to Strip Foreign Worker/Immigration Increase from Deficit Reduction Bill

Call your Senators Immediately and Urge a YES Vote for the
Byrd Amendment

THIS JUST IN...Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV) has decided to offer an amendment tomorrow to the Deficit Reduction Omnibus Reconciliation Act of 2005 (S. 1932) that will strip out language added by the Judiciary Committee that sells out American workers by expanding employment-based visas, H-1B high tech worker visas and accompanying family members by an estimated 368,000 per year.

PLEASE CALL YOUR SENATORS IMMEDIATELY AND URGE A YES VOTE FOR THE BYRD AMENDMENT.

This will come up tomorrow, so we have less than 24 hours
to make an impact. If you call during business hours, ask to speak with or leave a message for the legislative assistant handling immigration. If calling after business hours, please leave a message on your senators' voicemail.

Call the Capitol
Switchboard (202-224-3121) and ask to be connected, or find direct phone numbers on our web site at

http://capwiz.com/fair/dbq/officials/

This whole deal with H-1B workers being hired at lower wages is absolutely baseless. The corporations are required to show that pay scales are in line with other employees (black/brown/yellow). Besides do you realize how much it costs to actually sponsor a person on such a visa, and the legal bills that pile up.

What a load of crap. A company submitting an LCA is free to use whatever method it wants to determine a prevailing wage for an employment category if they wish, and the number of companies using H-1Bs that choose to set their own number is 68%. Every analysis I've seen shows H-1Bs are paid 15-30% less than resident workers with comparable education and experience. The one-time cost to sponsor an H-1B runs from 2,000 to 10,000 dollars. If an employer can replace a resident worker making $60,000 with an H-1B making $45,000 for six years, it doesn't take a math major to figure out what the company's motivation is.

If you're interested, try washtech, zazona , and Matloff's mailing list. It's not a secret from anyone except those in Congress.

Corporations have no god-given right to their property-rights. They were given the environment that provided their property rights by the US's citizens who defended not only defended those property rights with their lives and tax dollars, but were the source technologically creative culture these globalizing traitors now sell-out to foreign competitors with the cooperation of corrupt politicians.

PS: This isn't to say this movement of labor off-shore isn't welcomed. The less power companies like HP have over the US the faster the US will recover from the slide to third-world status created by these Frankenstein monstrosities.

http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/JobDestructionNews.htm

In a recent newsletter I wrote about a new corporate plan by Honeywell that some of their executives called a "Census Adjustment". Their cutsie corporate terminology is just another way of describing their new policy of replacing U.S. labor with cheaper foreign labor. I equated Honeywell's "census adjustment" to a corporate policy of "ethnic cleansing".

Since that newsletter was published I have received credible
information about several of the specifics of the Honeywell plan. The following information may seem like a spoof, but I assure you that it's no joke and nobody at Honeywell will be laughing as of July 1st.

DISCLAIMER: Although this information contained in this newsletter is from a credible source, there may be some factual errors. I have no way of independently verifying any of these factoids below.

***** Dictionary of terms used by Honeywell corporate executives
*****

Learning the dialects used by the corporatists can help us understand how they view the world. These are a few terms that I learned by studying information from Honeywell.

Census Adjustment: mass replacement of higher priced American employees with lower cost foreign employees. They don't make a distinction between foreign workers that come to the U.S. on H-1B/L-1 visas and workers that are in offshore positions. In most cases the foreign workers are high-tech workers from India or Eastern Europe. This term
is going out-of-favor among Honeywell executives because so many employees made derisive comments and jokes about it.

Globalization: the use of workers as a global commodity to lower cost. This term can be used interchangeably with "census adjustment".

Globalized engineers: usually used when referring to foreign engineers
that come to the U.S. by using H-1B and L-1 visas, but it can also be
used to describe overseas engineers that work for Honeywell (the exact
meaning depends on the context). The phrase is a clever code-word that
corporate execs and HR lap-dogs use for "Cheap engineers".

Infill - the process of filling job positions with workers. There is no
distinction made between the hiring of new workers or the transferring
of workers from one Honeywell location to another. "Infill" is a trendy
term that is very popular with borks and HR departments.

----- Honeywell's Plan for Census Adjustment by Globalization -----

Honeywell executives have decided that revenue spent for engineering
must go below 15% of their total expenditures. In order to cut costs
they will "globalize" their engineering departments. This globalization
process will focus on cutting the cost of labor by using the following
methods:

* Replacing current Honeywell workers with L-1 visa holders. These L-1
visa holders will come mostly from Russia, Czech Republic, and India.

* Whenever possible all positions in engineering and its support
functions will be outsourced to overseas locations.

* All new IT jobs will be required to be outsourced offshore.

* No external hiring will be allowed, and transfers of employees within
Honeywell will be discouraged until the job terminations are complete.

* Open job positions will be "backfilled with globalized engineers at a
lower cost." Managers that refuse to go along with this process will be
replaced with more cooperative ones.

* American subcontractors are currently being eliminated and replaced
with foreign companies.

The following factoids pertain specifically about Honeywell's Component
Engineering in their Commercial Electronic Systems (CES) on Deer Valley
Road in Phoenix, Arizona and Aerospace (AES). Similar tactics will be
used at other Honeywell locations.

>> Honeywell CEO, Dave Cote, has ordered Roman Jamragowiecz, VP of
Engineering, to globalize 25% of AES engineering. It is generall

Relevant Cartoon

You can also get additional employment information in general (I can't find it broken out by visa status) as the Bureau of Labor Statistics

You can also get additional employment information in general (I can't find it broken out by visa status) as the Bureau of Labor Statistics

In the year 2001, 9 out of every 10 new job openings for computer/IT were taken by H-1Bs, and despite record unemployment the INS issued 312,000 visas in 2002.

H-1B is used to import workers for jobs that American employers claim can't be filled in the "tight American labor market". Their claim is a lie because there are more than enough Americans to fill these jobs.

http://www.zazona.com/- one of the better clearinghouses for the fight against abuse of the H-1b visa. If you're not aware of what's been going on for the past decade or so with this visa, and how the DOL has supported the corporations over just about any protest, this is a good place to start.

For the Everest Computer fight- http://www.ortech.org/ is the homepage of Mitch Besser's High-Tech Union in Oregon, a subsidiary of Communication Workers of America. They're the only ones I know of who have actually won a fight to see the original LCAs of a single company, and have found fraud in the LCAs themselves (the other dirty tricks in this thread are NOT fraud per say- they're loopholes in the law on how to prove that no American is available for the job or how much an H-1b is paid. Everest Consulting was going WAY beyond this- on pay they were doing things like using the figures from one job market to lower wages in another job market, and they were checking the box that they were NOT H-1b dependant when more than 99% of their staff was H-1b. This is NOT the same as Intel using entry-level wages, or HP claiming it's not H-1b dependant because janitors and factory workers are also staff and are largely American Citizens, those are legal loopholes).

There's a difference between legally immigrating to the US and sneaking over the Rio Grande.

• INsourcing mass foreigners, H1B visas, just HORRIBLE!
• OUTsourcing tech jobs, TERRIBLE!

Funny you should mention H1-B's !

Entering "Green Hills" as the company name into the LCA database yields eleven(11) Labor certification applications for the purpose of importing foreign tech workers. I suspect that's just the tip of the iceberg, who knows how many H1-B's and L-1's they got from body shops?

Many 'recycled' computers currently get shipped overseas

Stop the presses!!! Where's CNN? Where's Lou Dobbs when we need him the most???

• Doctor
• Nurse

and another

India is emerging as the health-care destination of choice for an increasing number of surgery candidates, with more than 60,000 foreign patients from 34 countries treated in its top-flight Apollo Hospitals chain in the past decade. A delegation of Indian doctors was recently invited to London to brief British Prime Minister Tony Blair's medical advisers on flying surgery patients from the United Kingdom to Mumbai and or New Delhi for operative and post-operative care, allowing them to recuperate, and flying them back to the UK far cheaper than treating them at home. Routine cardiac surgery at the best hospitals in India costs about US$35,000, with a success rate of 98.5 percent, compared with about $150,000 in the United States. For more complicated problems that cost far more than that, cost differentials are anywhere from 200 percent to 500 percent to off the chart. And India is not alone; breast implants in Thailand from top-flight cosmetic surgeons cost as little as 50,000 baht ($1,260) compared with a median price of about $5,000 in the United States.

I wish we had a better way of finding out who they are. A decent approximation is Zazona's LCA Database--generally the companies that do intense outsourcing also hire lots of H-1b/L-1 workers.

The world keeps turning, you can't expect it to stop because your skillset no longer matches the 'hot' jobs.

I wish that were the problem. The jobs didn't go away, they just got moved to people I can't compete with because it costs less to live in their country than it does mine. 1 Million jobs in a decade is significant.

Moving jobs to other countries only benefits the owners of the company. American workers get displaced and thrown into unemployment while companies in the targeted foreign company go belly up because they can't compete with the higher wages of American countries. Also, a small percentage of the foreign population gets their wages promoted to somewhere between a third world nation and the U.S. The large percentage of people who don't get American jobs loose buying power because of the inflation. It throws them into poverty. Neither country benefits; however, the corp owner cuts his bottom line and increases his profit margin. I'm all for competition and education for myself to compete, but the game is severely stacked against the American worker when companies start exporting labor. Look at what happened with NAFTA in Mexico and how bad it was for Mexicans and Americans.

ALso, It's very very difficult for a displaced worker to take an 80% paycut (difference between I.T. wage and unemployment) and then find money to go to school. I don't know about you, but if I took an 80% paycut, school would be the last thing on my mind. I'd be trying to find enough work to keep my house and car and avoid the failure of bankruptcy. (not to mention the familiar and marital problems that come with that kind of financial shock.)

I'm all for competition and everyone getting paid for their sacrifices and risks, but the only one winning with foreign outsourcing and h1b visa's are a small percentage of executives and large corp. owners.

There's a lengthy thread on offshoring and related stuff here:

CIO Magazine On Offshore IT

See also:

Why you can't find a job

ZaZona, home of H1B News, the Job Destruction Newsletter

I found through Google about Congress and Outsourcing revealed this interesting article on IndianExpress.com

Here is also a Petition site attempting to Abolish the H-1B program entirely: Zazona.com

Not sure about SGI but regardless, we're in big trouble.

If you're smug about your current employment, enjoy it while you can. Around here, people are competing to work at Wal-Mart. Can't imagine what I'd do if I had to support a family.

The outsourcing is only just beginning. X-ray techs are now becoming hot for sourcing to India. They just email x-rays and your medical records, and a short while later, viola, your prognosis!

If you're not scared now, you will be when you're faced with having to list your former jobs phone number as a reference for your Wal-Mart application. Can you picture yourself doing this? Nah, never happen to you! But I'll tell you what, when you see your formerly $10,000 savings account flutter at the $200 dollar level, you'll start rethinking all sorts of things real fast.

And what if after you bite the bullet and Wal-Mart never calls you back! What the fuck are you gonna do?

Or how about Recession Fries

...cheap H1-B sysadmins, maybe they'd be configured better!

Practice in front of a mirror: "Do you want fries with that?"

Hits too close to home. Check out the 2nd carton on this page:

http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/WorkVisaHumor.htm

I have been sitting here sick with the flue reading the various posts, interesting.

To begin for those who wondered as to the basis of the stats, H1B Hall of Shame. It seems the goverment stopped keeping stats after 2001 but did allow for the possible trippling of these visas. The numbers, .. well go look.

In Jesus Christ Super Star, Jesus proclaims that he cannot heal everyone. there are just to many of them. Extrapolating, how big is your life raft, and who do you want on it. Do you take care of your own or do you arm those who compete with you with higher tech giving them chance after chance to destroy you. Understand, we are talking about our families or their families, with dire consequences for individuals and families in and out of the work place. A Boston stat I saw once was 4 years to Aids on the street. So death is possible, and Bush just cut off how many from unemployment. Most are our intelligencia which means that this is an attack against the infrastructure and intellectual capitol of this country, coring the economic apple from within. This is war. These prople are not your friend, this is a resource issue. Do not speek about these issues around work, this is survival and truth is the first thing to go. For survival, people will lie cheat or steal, whatever it takes. Read my "poem" at alt.newsring.com Our Children or Their Children. I know it still needs some work, but you have to start somewhere.

Regarding racism, I have not had problems that I know of with non-white individuals. Surprise most were Canadians, many of which were formerly expatriated Northern Europeans. They actually seem to have arranged to have me fired for writing Jobs, Jobs, Jobs - Self funded Industrial Espionage. This left handedly brings me to the posters who accused me of racism. We deserve Bin Laden? Did I get that right. Interesting, foreign nationals in tech will use anything including Congressional and Senate bribery, to take your job. This is business. Capitolism for those who forgot is based on markets and hence marketing. Marketing derives terms such as market penetration and target markets from WW II battlefield statistics. Business is warfare, and if the CEO's of America want to play the game "The Emperor's New Clothes, do not be surpised when some foreign national decides that he can pay a higher bribe to the stupid American politician [what cost power - with few exceptions, almost all power is derived], after all it is just good business.

Look, for those who did not read my article, Congress with the exception of one man is taking foreign money to give away American Industry to internationalists faster than we can create jobs, these actions lower wages as much as 40%. This isn't the worst of it look at Lee, Los Alomos and Clinton, you can give away Nuclear secrets, targeting, miniaturization, rocketry, etc. Why not your and my jobs. Remember the Republicans won't even say anything about it, so jobs ....

I have developed a number of techniques to raise computer processing speeds by possible order of magnitudes involving breaking the egyptian numbering system and I am told by counsel that I may not discriminate against non-American workers so as to keep the tech in this country. Check out TechnologyCandyStore. Some counsel at Peobody and Arnold Boston said if I take my tech to the net, there is no national security. Who are the stupid people who make such laws, or is this internationalism, I do not remember voting on whether the United States should become part of Mexico, Canada or otherwise give up our sovereignty, and since when should the rights of Americans be discriminated against over foreign nationals.

Who are these stupid leaders:

• "Dunn's First law of leadership: Never give up power over your fate to another, any leaderwhich does this, weather President, Senate or Congress is not worthy of their position.
  
• Dunn's second law of leadership: Never sell out your people in a democracy to get or stay in power.
  

A leader who does these things is a parasite and not a true leader.

Sincerely,

Richard Dunn

In closing, I went to the Doctor today, an Irish immigrant, I am out of unemployment, medical runs out at the end of January[wife laid off to]. She told me that this has been going on with white engineering class males beginning in 1987. She told me she would give me medical at $5-10.00, I told her I would owe her big time if I needed it. I told her what I wrote, she said I was not wrong and agreed to give me medical anyway. I told her I was sad and grateful, but that it was a resource issue. She said she knew and was gone.

I once walked away from a process that made tritium, someone will understand the humor. To those who took my future, I did not come hunting you, you came hunting me. This is an appeal, I need help, I own "radiofree"[almost everystate in the union].[com/net/org]. I have a web page for almost every town in America. If I have a business plan the bank will give me $1-3M. This is why some are afraid of me. If I get traction I beleive we cant take this country back. It is obvious we have been infiltrated and targeted by Internationalists.

Richard Dunn rdunn@radiofreenation.com

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Fired for Pro-American writing like this, on my time.

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Current Immigration policy is economic warfare against America's intellgencia
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1. Are ignorant of the laws
2. Are ignorant of the prevailing wages
3. Are afraid to speak up because they don't want to
   1. get fired and then sued by their previous employer for breaking the employment contract
   2. are afraid immigration problems
4. Come from a culture where it is expected/accepted that they will be exploited unfairly.

Uhh...I'm nervious with anything tied around my neck. Much less, something that can be tightened.

This reminds me of a cartoon:

http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/images/Humor/cube .g if

Uhhh, because they've undercut American and European workers?

• http://www.zazona.com
• http://www.nasscom.org

Because this thing really should be called the Itanic...

Somebody has already beat you to that name.

1. http://www.zazona.com
2. http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.html
3. http://www.nasscom.com

You're obviously not on an H1B visa.

See also:
http://www.iowa2010.state.ia.us/news/06_11.html
http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/may/24us1.htm
http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/H1BFAQs.htm
http://lists.tamil.com/lists/it/2001-01/msg00029.h tml

woof.

The Associated Press reports that "U.S. companies and other groups applied for 342,035 H-1B work visas in 2001, up 14 percent from 2000, before the economy tumbled.", "The number accepted also rose by 40 percent..." and "About half ... are for computer related jobs." The article cites research by UC Davis Professor Norman Matloff saying that "wages of computer programmers and engineers working in the U.S. on the visas are 15 percent to 33 percent lower than those of U.S. citizens".

Mark Shevitz of VisaNow is quoted as saying, "I think it surprised everyone. All that you hear about in the media is these huge layoffs and the tech industry is just shedding workers."

Finally, the article reports "Bay Area companies Oracle, Cisco Systems, Intel and Sun Microsystems were among the top users of the program in 2000, as were universities such as Harvard and Yale. The INS did not have numbers available on how many applications the companies filed last year amid layoffs.

----

BTW: It is illegal to use the H-1B program to lower wages from the rates prevailing in the absence of the program.

Here's information posted by an anti-H-!B activist at another site:

Additional information provided by an h1b activist (although I encourage people to avoid political action, there are far more effective things they can do with technology to deconstruct the edifice that did this to us because it is, after all, in existence because of technologists -- the real ones, not the Wired magazine ones):

80% of the US public opposed H1-B expansion. Part of what makes the bill increasing H1-B Visas so unusual is that it was so unpopular and was passed with very, very little debate.

Zazona is the most comprehensive site on the H1-B issue. Corrective legislation is now in a US congressional Committee. The philosophy of HR 3222 has been supported by a diverse group that includes Buchanan Supporters, Nader Supporters, and the National Urban League. HR 3222 is a compromise-it roles the level of new H1-B Visas back to 1998 levels and puts in place an unemployment adjustment mechanism.

H1-B Visa expansion was advocated by the ITAA. Organized opposition to H1-B includes:the AEA and the Programmers Guild.

You can Look at H1-B applications by company,state,city. You can write your Congressional representatives if you have a problem with the current H1-B situation. You can also write your state representatives. The only aspect of the H1-B issue that is in state jurisdiction is use of H1-B labor at state institutions. However, state representatives are influential in their parties-if your state representative writes a letter to congress it could mean a lot.

The Associated Press reports that "U.S. companies and other groups applied for 342,035 H-1B work visas in 2001, up 14 percent from 2000, before the economy tumbled.", "The number accepted also rose by 40 percent..." and "About half ... are for computer related jobs." The article cites research by UC Davis Professor Norman Matloff saying that "wages of computer programmers and engineers working in the U.S. on the visas are 15 percent to 33 percent lower than those of U.S. citizens".

Mark Shevitz of VisaNow is quoted as saying, "I think it surprised everyone. All that you hear about in the media is these huge layoffs and the tech industry is just shedding workers."

Finally, the article reports "Bay Area companies Oracle, Cisco Systems, Intel and Sun Microsystems were among the top users of the program in 2000, as were universities such as Harvard and Yale. The INS did not have numbers available on how many applications the companies filed last year amid layoffs.

----

BTW: It is illegal to use the H-1B program to lower wages from the rates prevailing in the absence of the program.

Here's information posted by an anti-H-!B activist at another site:

Additional information provided by an h1b activist (although I encourage people to avoid political action, there are far more effective things they can do with technology to deconstruct the edifice that did this to us because it is, after all, in existence because of technologists -- the real ones, not the Wired magazine ones):

80% of the US public opposed H1-B expansion. Part of what makes the bill increasing H1-B Visas so unusual is that it was so unpopular and was passed with very, very little debate.

Zazona is the most comprehensive site on the H1-B issue. Corrective legislation is now in a US congressional Committee. The philosophy of HR 3222 has been supported by a diverse group that includes Buchanan Supporters, Nader Supporters, and the National Urban League. HR 3222 is a compromise-it roles the level of new H1-B Visas back to 1998 levels and puts in place an unemployment adjustment mechanism.

H1-B Visa expansion was advocated by the ITAA. Organized opposition to H1-B includes:the AEA and the Programmers Guild.

You can Look at H1-B applications by company,state,city. You can write your Congressional representatives if you have a problem with the current H1-B situation. You can also write your state representatives. The only aspect of the H1-B issue that is in state jurisdiction is use of H1-B labor at state institutions. However, state representatives are influential in their parties-if your state representative writes a letter to congress it could mean a lot.

The Associated Press reports that "U.S. companies and other groups applied for 342,035 H-1B work visas in 2001, up 14 percent from 2000, before the economy tumbled.", "The number accepted also rose by 40 percent..." and "About half ... are for computer related jobs." The article cites research by UC Davis Professor Norman Matloff saying that "wages of computer programmers and engineers working in the U.S. on the visas are 15 percent to 33 percent lower than those of U.S. citizens".

Mark Shevitz of VisaNow is quoted as saying, "I think it surprised everyone. All that you hear about in the media is these huge layoffs and the tech industry is just shedding workers."

Finally, the article reports "Bay Area companies Oracle, Cisco Systems, Intel and Sun Microsystems were among the top users of the program in 2000, as were universities such as Harvard and Yale. The INS did not have numbers available on how many applications the companies filed last year amid layoffs.

----

BTW: It is illegal to use the H-1B program to lower wages from the rates prevailing in the absence of the program.

Here's information posted by an anti-H-!B activist at another site:

Additional information provided by an h1b activist (although I encourage people to avoid political action, there are far more effective things they can do with technology to deconstruct the edifice that did this to us because it is, after all, in existence because of technologists -- the real ones, not the Wired magazine ones):

80% of the US public opposed H1-B expansion. Part of what makes the bill increasing H1-B Visas so unusual is that it was so unpopular and was passed with very, very little debate.

Zazona is the most comprehensive site on the H1-B issue. Corrective legislation is now in a US congressional Committee. The philosophy of HR 3222 has been supported by a diverse group that includes Buchanan Supporters, Nader Supporters, and the National Urban League. HR 3222 is a compromise-it roles the level of new H1-B Visas back to 1998 levels and puts in place an unemployment adjustment mechanism.

H1-B Visa expansion was advocated by the ITAA. Organized opposition to H1-B includes:the AEA and the Programmers Guild.

You can Look at H1-B applications by company,state,city. You can write your Congressional representatives if you have a problem with the current H1-B situation. You can also write your state representatives. The only aspect of the H1-B issue that is in state jurisdiction is use of H1-B labor at state institutions. However, state representatives are influential in their parties-if your state representative writes a letter to congress it could mean a lot.

Check out AOL --basically these folks keep these company alive by getting special immigration legislation. If you don't like this, speak out.

H-1Bs are still stuck to their employers. They often sign agreements that subject them to huge fees if they quit the company before the end of the contract. It could also set back their attempts at getting a Green Card.

It makes little difference to the Americans that are systematically being replaced by H-1Bs whether they can change jobs or not.

Currently their are over 600,000 H-1Bs employed in the US.

www.ZaZona.com

Your professional career is being undermined by our own government and rich corporate lobbyists.

H-1B, one of many worker replacement visa bills, allows American companies to hire foreign temps to replace YOU. As if that wasn't bad enough, 195,000 more of these "temps" are allowed into our country every year. More than 671,000 H-1B workers will be employed in the United States in the year 2001. H-1B is used to import foreign indentured workers here to take white collar jobs that American employers claim can't be filled in the "tight American labor market". H-1B isn't the only way corporations are subverting the American way of life. H-2A and H-2B visas are being used to bring in blue collar and agricultural workers and J-1 visas are now being used by educational and governmental institutions to bring in foreign workers. TN (NAFTA) visas are used to bring in Canadian and Mexican citizens to work in the United States. To make matters worse, President Bush now wants to give millions of H-2B worker visas to allow Mexicans to work take American jobs.

H-1B was bought and paid for by Corporate America. They "donated" to our politicians' campaign funds and now they are reaping the benefits of H-1B because they have the best government money can buy. They now are pushing the Trade Promotion Authority that is a new name for Fast Track. These agreements will allow corporations to import cheap labor whenever and wherever they want.

Listed below are some of the jobs that H-1B visas are being issued for:
Accountants and Administrators
Executives, Managers, Administrators
Software programmers and computer scientists
All engineers and Technicians
Research Associates and Scientists
Lawyers and Tax Analysts
School Teachers and college professors Postdocs and Fellows
Sports Instructors and Physiologists
Doctors, Nurses, Med-Techs, Therapists, Pharmacists
Surgical and Dental Assistants
Fashion models, Secretaries, Clerks
Architects, Musicians, and Artists
Youth Counselors, Day Care, and Cashiers
Truck Drivers
The List Goes ON and ON and ON and ON ..................

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Most of the same principals apply. With micros, people just are sloppier. But they should follow many of the same practices.

Even with this programming shortage, employers discriminate against older people. Or they demand exact skills, but then they ask for increases in the H1B visa limit.

Some information on it is at the Programmer's Guild.

Petition to Abolish the H1B.