The inventor of K'Nex went to Drexel University so he donated *assloads* of K'nex to the school. I was working on K'nex design project freshman year. We made some pretty kick-ass rubber band powered guns that shot the rods. They *really* can hurt.
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Lego also announced the release of their RIAA and MPA boxed sets, with realistic "Cease and Desist" tiles and life-like explosive seperation when hit by Lego machine guns. Includes RIAA and MPA satanic Lawyer From Hell action figure.
Sorry, just had to write that.
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Where's the Lego potato cannon? That would be impressive.
(And where was this thing when I was 10 years old, and throwing the bricks by hand in my Lego battles?)
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This isn't as good as it sounds.
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Great! Now I have to wait ten days before buying my lego A-Wing. Does this mean that legos have become too dangerous for anyone to have other than Approved Law Enforcement Authorities? I hope I'm not too subversive for silly putty-- I'm running out of toys which are not Bad Influences (TM).
I agree that making a machine gun out of legos is pretty cool, but it's also a bit morbid. When I was a kid we made spaceships, and little towns with little people in them. Machine guns didn't really cross my mind.
Perhaps just the idea of making a toy weapon out of legos is a bit much for me... Why couldn't you make a water gun or something?
There go my childhood memories...
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Re:I'm a bit confused...
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What do you mean a little morbid? The whole lego atmosphere is morbid! Knights slaying dragons, Spaceships with guns, sharks in the water to eat any swimmer-bys, Lego-men with little guns for their little hands, and etc.
Sure all of the guns were imaginary (rather than real as this one is), but they're still encouraging violence!
Re:I'm a bit confused...
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Hmmm, I fail to see why a lego gun is worse than a water gun....I read an article once by a woman who said she rejected gender stereotypes for her son, didn't want to encourage violence etc...so instead of toy guns she got him some barbie dolls. When he was three years old he popped around the corner one day, cradling the Barbie in his arms and pointing the little plastic feet at her, going "RATATATATATAT!!!" At which point she realized that some things are hardwired, and gave up the fight.
When I was a kid I restricted my Leco buildign to weapons of mass destruction. Battleships, spaceships with big guns, even a model nuclear missile silo.
However, I think the combination of a lego machine gun and a lego town with lots of lego people could be quite a bit of fun...
What's really fun though is to build a functioning A-Bomb out of the Lego Town Uranium Processing Plant kit. (those uranium bricks are a collectors item now - wish I'd kept mine)
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Re:I'm a bit confused...
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heh, well, i would argue that the reason this kid turned the barbie to a machine gun is not genetics but the other cultural stimuli, such as movies and television which literally steam-rolled any gender-typing that may have been going on with hawaii-fun-barbie.
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Re:I'm a bit confused...
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it would have been really tragic if this transvestite young lad tried to rob a bank armed only with his barbie and a few "ken doll head grenades" --------------------------------------- -----
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Ah, but you see, the wonderful thing about a projectile weapon is it's simple enough to work.
There's certainly alot of fun to be had simply by messing about with lego, and, as the Steiner-esque Cliché goes "using your imagination".
But think also of the thrill you get when you build something that "works". It's what first got me interested in programming; it's the satisfaction which makes fixing things worth it.
The great thing about a gun is that it's a simple, clearly defined goal, seen in already implemented, which is clearly feasible, for which there are clearly defined goals (notably here rate of fire), and the guilt for which is minimal. At the end of the day, a device which spits out lego at half a metre a second does not make anyone "death, the destroyer of worlds".
Perhaps what is morbid is the fact that any youngish child to teen on the street (well, many in Toronto) knows about a spectacular range of the real devices.
stuff blew up in GI Joe, but no one ever really died. Also, they always had the lesson of the day at the end.
Damned American Gun Culture
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antizeus
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I predict a flame war over guns and the right to keep and bear arms. I think I'll start it off with a little trolling.
We shouldn't be encouraging our children to glorify weapons with toys. Won't somebody please think of the children?
Studies have shown that you're 7652 times more likely to shoot yourself with a Lego machine gun than you are to shoot an intruder.
The Second Amendment of the US Constitution only grants an organized militia (i.e. the government) to have Lego machine guns.
The need for Lego machine guns is historically obsolete because the playgrounds are run by democratic coalitions of children and not mean kids like in the old days.
If the playground is taken over by mean kids, then Lego machine guns won't help the nice kids because the mean kids will have the overwhelming advantage of possessing Lego tanks and Lego nukes.
OK, that ought to get us started.
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Re:Damned American Gun Culture
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...And don't forget that Lego and tequila don't mix!!!:)
Home security system? Frag that.. my cat had better mend his ways and stop demanding to be fed at 6.30 on weekends.. already have a mindstorms chassis that would accept something like this with a few modifications..
And why shouldn't we use something creative to build a weapon? Usually it's the other way around.. if you don't keep things balanced in life you start getting an itchy feeling to get into politics..
This is pretty neat and all, but did it need to be posted in an article by it's self? Maybe it would have been better suited with CmdrTaco's quickies (man I miss those)? BRING ON THE QUICKIES I SAY! Then we could get a bunch at a time.:-)
This is pretty neat and all, but did it need to be posted in an article by it's self? Maybe it would have been better suited with CmdrTaco's quickies (man I miss those)?
I don't know why this was moderated as "offtopic"; I agree completely. While it's a cool link, is it really deserving of its own story? It really is quickie material.
I wondered the same. Fortunatly i got moderated back up one too. I thought it was right on topic:-)
I don't think they knew what I was talking about.
A Lego Machine Gun! Fruit of the devil!
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Anonymous Coward
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This is very upsetting. Did anyone check to see if the 7 day waiting period was met? What about a permit? Has the gun been registered? You know someone just built it to sneak on to airplanes! What is this world coming to. It all started with that evil Doom(tm) game! Next thing you know someone will build an atomic bomb out of them. I think we should repeal the constitution NOW. Burn the bill of rights! The world would be a better place without the 1st and 2nd amendmants! Imagine no one could say anything that might offend someone. No guns - the government could enforce it's laws without fear of public outcry or backlash. No internet. No posting of that evil DeCSS code. I am going to go cry now that someone has turned a child hood toy of creation and wonderment into an evil tool of destruction - you could put out someones eye!
I find your lack of faith disturbing Darth Vader on the subject of open sourcing the death star plans
Re:A Lego Machine Gun! Fruit of the devil!
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find your lack of faith disturbing Darth Vader on the subject of open sourcing the death star plans
This is funny, If the DeathStar plans would have been open source from the begining then they most likely would have found the ventelation duct security hole before the actual construction of the thing started. Wow, maybe open source isn't such a good idea. If the DeathStar plans were open source the Rebles would not have made it out of that battle alive.
NO MORE OPEN SOURCE THE EVIL EMPIRE WILL USE IT AGAINST US!!!!!
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Is this the beginning of an armament race strated by the Robot Monkeys? I implore everyone to support banning Lego weapons for Robot Monkeys! If the Robotic Monkeys get Lego guns, they'll be free to force us around like sheep!
LIF
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I used Lego's to build a model of 'Little Boy' (implosive a-bomb) for a high-school project once. We had been asked to write an essay about a historically significant bit of technology, and have at least one example of it for illustrative purposes. Kept the model in a metal box next to the desk whilst reading the essay for effect. (The effect was a trip down to the principal's office for a discussion on 'why nukes are BAD!')
The only challenges I see are getting Lego to produce the explosive bricks needed for the lenses,(TNT does not lend itself to modern hi-temp injection moulding!) and then getting them to produce a Lego timing module capable of signalling thousands of 1x1 Lego M1 detonator bricks. The enriched uranium bricks could probably be bought for a couple of tins of Spam on the Russian black market.. (We only need 20 kilos) Lego currently makes the 'urchin' device; it's in set 107; Jr. Atomic Scientist's Secret Lab.
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This really beats MY pitiful Lego sets.
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Mad-cat
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Wish I had that when I had to confront my ISP guys!
*Whaddaya mean NO DSN?*
Lock and load!
BTW, if you care to see my own Lego stuff, check out my website.
I have a legitimate use for this
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I, as a nerd, am somewhat lazy at times. I also like things that when misused turn into interesting toys. And I like PEZ. The solution? A PEZ cannon. I've been working on the concept for a few months now, and finally I have the solution. Using Mindstorms, I connect my PEZ cannon to my PC at work. Need a PEZ? How about thirty? No problem!! And with a simple keystroke (perhaps Ctrl-Alt-P) a predefined number of PEZ come screaming at my face. It's all ingenious, don't you think?
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According to their creator, The Lego Company (formerly The Lego Group), they are "LEGO Bricks"; the term "Lego" is not to be used to refer to a brick nor "Legos" to multiple bricks.
Also, the word LEGO is formed from the Danish words "LEg GOdt" ("play well").
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Yeah this brings a whole new meaning to the phrase 'Lego my Eggo'.;)
I am thinking that in a few weeks there will be a rash of Lego devestated Eggo's found in a dumpster somewhere.
How long 'till they are illegal?
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First of all, the 30 round magazines are illegal. Of course, no non-military person needs such an extreme rate of fire! And don't even get me started on the fact that the plastic bits can be transported through the detectors at the airport. Heck, someone could hijack a plane by building the darned thing after they board!
I know what you're thinking, if we outlaw LEGO then only outlaws will play with LEGO. But at what price? How many stories on the next Columbine do we need to hear from Katz before we wake up to the reality of how dangerous this can be? People can't be safe what with all these robots running around, now possibly armed.
So write your Congress, the MPAA, and anyone else who can be swayed to abuse their power for no reason. Obviously this guy should be locked up since he is telling everyone how to make guns and providing the plans.
:) TGIF!
Re:How long 'till they are illegal?
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348
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First off why did you post as AC? The post is actually pretty thoughtful. 1) ? that the plastic bits can be transported through the detectors at the airport This is true and sooner or later some dolt will try it.
2) do we need to hear from Katz before we wake up to the reality of how dangerous this can be? you let the cat out of the bag! Betcha within a week or two Katz will have an article something along the lines of "Amerika, how Lego is contributing to the socialization of society."
3) So write your Congress, This like everything else will have some muckety muck group to oppose it, led by some Hollywood activist type, I can see Steisand now, "The youth of our nation is at risk from Southpark and Lego, please members of the house subcommittee, you must put a stop to it".
4) . Obviously this guy should be locked up since he is telling everyone how to make guns and providing the plans Also Betcha this will happen.
Something so simple and yet there will be all the fuss about we need to protect ourselves from ourselves.
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Re:How long 'till they are illegal?
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Mister Jones quietly got up and moved towards the planes restroom, taking his briefcase with him. Closing and latching the door, he opened the case and withdrew the harmless lego spaceship within..... With a surgeons skills, he quickly broke down the miniture space craft and reassembled it into a deadly KarrLegaCannon and readed himself to take the cockpit..
Some guy already did that, the link was at HardOCP awhile back (not sure where it is now though). It was pretty cool, especially the fact that he was asking to be sent more, because he had run out...and the color scheme left, uh, something to be desired. =]
Expect to see more stories from the Hellmouth - Pre-schoolers bringing Lego machine guns to school and shooting everyone up! Imagine: Drive-by Lego'ings in Power Wheels! No one will be safe.
On the bright side, maybe the availibility of Lego machine guns will deter young terrorists from using actual firearms.
So, the legos are the interesting part.
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seebs
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If a reporter were covering us (actually, one is), I wonder if it would figure in the article that, for all our interest in impassioned debate about education, the education story doesn't come back, but the legos get more coverage.
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I was expecting a Lego-sized machine gun, to fit into those little hands. It'd be perfect for playing "LMI vs. Symbolics" (for the clue-impaired amongst you, an ancestral version of "BSD vs. GPL") with my Lego set.
Anyway... does anyone remember that program that built Lego bridges using a genetic algorithm? Why not put it to use improving this machine gun? I bet in a few thousand generations it'd turn out a real weapon of mass destruction. Hell yeah!
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I used to play Lego demolition derby, which consisted of each player building a vehicle and taking it in turns to ram your opponents, with last vehicle left mobile still winning.
If I'd known my Lego vehicles could have projectile weapons my childhood would have been a lot more fun [and I'd probably have been seen by a lot of psychiatrists:-)].
On terrestrial UK TV [can't remember the channel] there is a program called "Robot Wars" where teams of people build radio controlled vehicles whose aim is to demolish the other vehicle.
It should be possible to create a similar type of competition involving designing Lego Mindstorm vehicles, only with no external interference allowed. Anyone ever tried this ?
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Lego test replaced SATS at some schools, remember?
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Pariah
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Boy, this guy's a shoo-in at any of the schools which are using LEGO projects as admission criteria now. I can see it now:
"Okay, uh, your Lego project doesn't really look much like it's supposed to, frankly we're a little disappointed in... Hey! Put that down! OK! You're in! You're in!"
From what I can tell, all this seems to be is an electronic firing system (think of a multi-barreled gun, with a bullet in each barrel, and each bullet wired to fire - hence no moving parts, high rate of fire - but not many bullets to fire).
Personally, I think a machine gun would be better, as these devices seem to make you reload after only a few shots (4-6 in the handgun case, maybe 50 or so in the larger versions). In the case of a handgun, it might make a little sense - but for anything where you want to "hose" something for a little while, well...
The webserver on that machine is now entirely dead... I am getting an 80ms ping from that box though.:) I swear/. is the most deadly distributed denial of cervix application out there in existence to this date.
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Anonymous Coward
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This is a good preview for lego's new "domestic violence" line that's supposed to be debuting next year.
I'm going home and make one now!
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hardburn
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Let us be thankful that Hitler never had this power, although I bet they were working on it near the end.
Bill Clinton today annouced a bill that he will send to Congress requiring a 3 way waiting period and background check for the sale of LEGO's sets, and require that all LEGO's be sold with a locking case.
In addition to the LEGO machine gun design posted on the web, Clinton cited the possible use of LEGO Mindstorm sets to plant terrorist devices.
When pressed as to how a LEGO machine gun could pose a theat to American society, Clinton responded, "You could put an eye out with those things. We must protect the children!"
Meanwhile, Al Gore, campaigning at a daycare in South Carolina, told kids that he "invented LEGOs."
Essentially what I said previously, except multiple bullets in the barrel, each seperated by a charge. The charges are electronically controlled (set off), the heat of the explosion expands the bullet behind it, keeping the heat from igniting the charges behind the next bullet. Rate of fire determined by barrel cooling, and rate at which bullets leave barrel.
Better trust the software/hardware behind these devices - can you imagine what would happen if the wrong bullet was fired out of order (Oops! Where did my hand go!)...
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Fools
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Anonymous Coward
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Your puny little lego popgun is a mere shadow of my uberpowerful 155mm tinkertoy howitzer
The Moron Who posted this...
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SilkyHog
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... needs some help. Lego Machine guns are a thing from the past, try the new and improved LEGO howlitzer. It's capable of hitting LA from DC with over a thousand shards of LEGO, (formally known as "airplane wings")
Whilst in college, an EE/ME friend and I tried to develop a project we called the "BeerMaster" -- a range-finding, direction-finding tabletop device, with a gravity-fed magazine of beer cans, and a compressed air launching mechanism.
The basic idea was that if you'd shout "Beer Me!", the device would recognize your call, turn to face you, estimate distance, and launch a beer at you (which you'd naturally grab out of the air).
We had a couple problems that made us give up development:
our targetting was poor. The device was able to direction-find pretty accurately, but the rangefinding wasn't very good -- it would frequently target the wall six feet behind you, or the like.
the launching mechanism required a fair bit of power, that made the device relatively unfeasible for normal home use. For example, we had to attach two cylinders of compressed air, and that didn't last long.
in order to get a clean launch, each can had to be placed in a "non-discarding sabot" -- a jacket that fit over each beer and provided a better fit against the launch mechanism. We only had one such jacket, 'cause it was a pain to make. Cans aren't terribly ballistic, as-is.
since we used compressed air, and we weren't really good at metering it, our launches were of irregular force. It was nearly impossible to get the can flying at exactly the right speed.
In retrospect, we perhaps shouldn't have given up so easily, but when you've had a few too many cans shot at your head, you start to get spooked easily. Plus the cans were able to dent sheetrock, and therefore messed up our walls pretty badly.
Anyone want to take up the effort? It'd be a cool party trick, but don't blame me if you kill someone.
What about using a trebuchet style launcher? Or (since the cans are made of metal) a magnetic accelerator? Or a steam catapult? Just a few thoughts... (are there automatic laser rangefinders?) The range could probably be got via some signal processing from a couple of microphones spread around the room...
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O, "LEGO bricks" is plural.
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Speare
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Other useless trivia from LEGO.com's website:
The international LEGO Group was established in 1932 and is one of the worlds largest toy manufactorers, employing about 10,000 people in 50 companies in 30 countries. Did you know...
4.9152 cm3 is the volume of an 8-stud LEGO brick. It measures 9.6 x 32 x 16 mm.
Thousands of a mm - that's the tolerance of accuracy at the LEGO mould factories.
102,981,500 are how many different ways there are to combine six 8-stud bricks of the same colour. If you haven't that much time, you can take three 8-stud bricks - same colour - and fit them together in 1,060 ways. Two 8-stud bricks - still the same colour - can be put together in 24 ways.
203,000,000,000 (203 billion) LEGO elements or thereabouts - were moulded between 1949 and the end of 1998. Of these, 6.5 billion are eight-stud bricks. And 2.3 billion Mini figures have been moulded, decorated and assembled since 1978.
("O, 'LEGO bricks' is plural" =anagram> "Erg, I'll use 'pair o' blocks'.")
If I knew how, I'd create a LEGO BFG for Quake III or UT. Now that's fragalicious!
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hmmmm heheh mindstorm fun
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FoulBeard
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couple this with a little mindstorm inventiveness and you have hours of fun and enjoyment (pain?). I have already programming my mindstorm bot to chase our black cat around the apartment. Ouch*.... Just got a mental picture of my poor cat getting pelted by volleys of high speed legos.
NOT entirely LEGOs! Uses Rubber Band for Power!
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Cy+Guy
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This entire article is a fraud!
It's powered by a rubber band, not LEGOs. (Though I guess if you strached one of the little rubber tires on a LEGO car set, you might be able to make it work)
Since the power source is a rubber band, the premise of the story is false, in that I could make a real gun out of LEGO's as long as I am willing to use black powder as my power source. (or in the case mentioned in another thread, plutonium for a LEGO A-bomb, though it is MUCH harder to get than rubber bands)
Re:NOT entirely LEGOs! Uses Rubber Band for Power!
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slothdog
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Actually, I bought a LEGO Technic set *cough* for my son *cough* the other day, and it came with several rubber bands for use in the steering mechanism. Sure, they're not bricks, but they *did* come with a LEGO set.
Re:NOT entirely LEGOs! Uses Rubber Band for Power!
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> I could make a real gun out of LEGO's as long as I am willing to > use black powder as my power source.
Oh PLEASE make such a gun oh PLEASE and publish the plans and photos of it going off...really I just can't see how any machine made of legos (I mean Legos, wanna capitalise so as to respect the trademark) can stand any kind of exothermic reaction. But I could be wrong; I'll admit I never spent a tenth as long as I should have playing with black powder. So if you've got something in mind let's see it.
I had already posted something else earlier and didn't want to look like I was hogging I guess. Glad to see people enjoyed it. I really liked some of the other responses better myself.
Cheers!
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I'm thinking you take a few of the machine-gun guy's LEGO Toy Canyons, one of his guns, and this six-legged walker... pick a battlefield, and go forth and conquer.:)
Which brings up the question: is there a way to get some Crusoe chips into these, set up TCP/IP, and have the battles remotely via webcams?
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When I was a lil' munchkin, I used to build "bombs" out of popsickle sticks. It would just be a bunch of popsickle sticks arranged so that it was all held together by tension. If you removed or dislodged one stick, they whole thing would lose tension and fly apart, scattering sticks everywhere.
Just throwing it or having someone "accidently" step on it was enough to make it "explode."
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Re:Right-wingers are censors, you moron.
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It must be hard to rationalize your ludicrous notions with reality. For example, the Libertarian Party, which vehemently defends all of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not just the popular ones (ACLU, I'm looking at you).
If only you'd get a brain and not confuse "white supremecists" with "gun nuts", you might make a little more sense.
Somebody please moderate down this ignorant troll.
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You only scratched the surface
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348
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You guys didn''t take it far enough. Just having some little imaginary battles is only the beginning. Sort of like the difference between playing with a few matchbox cars and SimCity 2K, I took it a little further and created a Lego society. Below is just a sampling of our Lego Bill of Rights.
Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a Lego gun, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of Lego firearms, or of Lego Copying; or the right of the little Lego people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the Lego people to keep and bear Lego Arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III No Lego-armed Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and Lego, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or Lego to be seized.
Amendment V No person shall be held to answer for a Lego, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the Lego land or Lego naval forces, or in the Lego Militia, when in actual service in time of Lego War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in Lego jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of Lego, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private Lego property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI In all criminal Lego prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial Lego jury of the State and district wherein the Lego crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Lego Counsel for his defense.
Amendment VII In suits at common Lego law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by Lego jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a Lego jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any Lego Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the Lego common law.
Amendment VIII Excessive Lego bail shall not be required, nor excessive Lego fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual Lego punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX The enumeration in the Lego Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the Lego people.
Amendment X The powers not delegated to the Lego States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the Lego States respectively, or to the Lego people.
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After a recent article on Slashdot regarding Lego Machine Guns, there has been a proliferation of violence connected with small plastic blocks in our society. Indeed, the Anarchist's Cookbook has added several chapters on Lego Weaponry, including a simple example of how to create a critical mass of certain Legos with intent to create cold fusion as a power source for a Lego rail-gun. There are record numbers of children in our schools that have been impaled with these ordinarily "fun" toys since this last report.
Several ofthe most extreme cases involve a preschool and an airplane. Little Private Burrito (an unfortunate name) went to preschool one day, with great expectations of play time, only to be struck repeatedly with high-speed Legos from his (former) friend Humis' Lego gun. Several other children were bloodied, and almost 90% of the class wet their pants during this event. We cannot continue to allow such things in the hands of babes...
But in the hands of adults, Legos are even more dangerous. Jaques Strappe recently hijacked an airliner, with over 75 people on board, using a modified rapid-fire semi-automatic Lego Gun. Though no passengers were hurt, several first class travelers were apparently shouting such things as "Golly!" and "Lordy, Lordy!". After he was apprehended, Strappe claimed to have found the plans for his weapon on the Internet. No lawsuits have been filed against Lego or Slashdot/Andover/VA as of yet, but you can be sure that there are many to come...
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how long until some terrorists decide to modify this and hijack a plane ? getting plastic toys through airport security would be no problem.
Toys of Mass Destruction
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When I was a kid, I...
Had massive Lego castle wars with my brothers
Had Lego car ramming competitions
Built Lincoln Log houses and launched smaller Lincoln Logs at them with a crude Lincoln Log catapult
Made crossbows out of Tinker-Toys and rubber bands
I think you just had a boring childhood.:)
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LEGO Machine gun vs. LEGO Grenades.
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Yeah, machine guns are a bit morbid. So was every kid I played with as a child. We'd stack the 8x4 bricks to make a hollow "sphere" (more like a cube with protrusions) to make grenades, which we'd lob at each other. They'd shatter on impact! I think I'd rather get shot by a 2x4 brick than have a lego grenade nail my head.
I don't have many childhood memories. Go Figure.
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Re:LEGO Machine gun vs. LEGO Grenades.
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Even better:
You take a bunch of legos, assemble them into a square on a large platform piece (all on the same level). Wrap an elastic around them so that the elastic is on the flat sides, not the bumps. Then you carefully take the bricks off the platform, so that they're just held together by the elastic. Watch out though! If one of these goes off in your hand, you can REALLY get hurt!
A friend of mine made time bombs and vibration-sensitive bombs out of these that would send bricks flying all over the house... He's studying philosohy now. <G>
slashdot needs a "lego" category
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There are so many "lego" stories on slashdot, why not make a category and icon specifically for legos. I'll make the the icon if you want.
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Re:slashdot needs a "lego" category
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If I'm not mistaken, the toy category uses a 2x4 red lego brick. That's good enough for me!
I think I'll come up with my own encryption algorithm based on this. Do the US export laws prevent me from sending information out about 6x8 stud encryption?
And how many colors are LEGO bricks available in anyway?
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Now if I had answered ten minutes later after reading all of the responses, then moderate me down and ruin my karma, otherwise don't be such an ass and mess with my karma you bastards!
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I once made a lego machine gun that shot an assembly of a 2x1 flat brick with the ridges in it and a 2x2 flat brick underneath with a 2x2 gear connected to my motor. The Technic gears fit nicely into the ridges, as long as there's only one bump-worth of them. The fire rate was poor because I couldn't get the "bullets" out of the holder fast enough. Also, aiming was limited, because I had to point it down to get the bullets out, then point it to where I wanted to shoot, while the thing came out. Those things do get accelerated pretty fast, though. Not much of a range, I guess my batteries were weak at that point.
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I did something very similar to that, using a gear on the motor, and using the flat geared blocks from the rack-and-pinion steering of the Technics Car as bullets.
As far as i remember, it could fire across a room pretty well, which was enough to entertain me at the time.
Re:my LAST lego weapon was a crossbow
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Technics ROCKED for stuff like that. If you could make an 10 unit (or longer) axle go straight (slightly harder than I originally thought when I did it), it's easy to use the old 4.5V motor to just drive it out at a decent speed. Of course, fast isn't fast enough for me. Set up a small gearbox to go with that, and you'll still have enough torque to get by with nothing more than wheels after that.
The best part? You can make it LOOK like a crossbow, but it'll fire like a submachine gun at the very slowest. At the fastest? I never measured, but drop in loading and nearly instant firing are enough to make *me* happy. Christopher Kalos
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"Procrastination is great. It gives me a lot more time to do things that I'm never going to do."
When I was a kid I was making tanks out of Tinker-Toys, had really cool exploading action on my Lincoln Log cabins (acheived by sliding one of the flat roof pieces under the foundation, using a small log for a fulcrum and pushing down on the opposite end). And most definitely I made lots of guns out of Lego's, Lock-Blocks, and whatever else they had back then... Granted, mine didn't actually shoot anything, but if I had the ingenuity you can bet they would have.
And as for the Lego towns and spaceships. They never got blown up by an enemy star cruiser or something, and you never took advantage of the fact that Lego people could be split into multiple parts. Its all natural.. (I think?!?!)
Wow the memories are now coming back of all the crazy menacing devices I created with Capsela and Robotix, also. Boy that was fun stuff. Thanks for invoking the trip down memory lane...
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Ok, Now my Robot AI script will be for IRC, Quake, File Filtering, and An Unyholy Army of Legos.
Now think on this: Might this be just how the Matrix "AI" was born? This is what sparked the War! Soon people will discover how to make rapid-fire 1x1 unstopable Lego Bricks make from depleted uranium! These things will fire faster than the speed of sound!
"Alright, this is Blacktron 7843, We're ready with the new Beam Cannon"
"Roger that 7843, You are Authorized"
[Cannon Fires a Stream of Lego Bricks, The Base security Shatters, The Base Shatters, The Platform the base was on shatters, The Plane that was on splits in half and flies off in both directions, The Floor gets driven through and it kills your sister who was working on the computer downstairs at the time. Because You had a Lego Mindstorm AI controlling the Cannon, It re-targets and blows apart the walls, sending the roof crashing down, But it's not over yet- this rocked, you used glue, little bricks start breaking windows and splitting trees, A stray one catches the air and knocks out a plane's engine, The plane crashes about a mile away, And your gun- It's still firing, The whol area is in devestation or chaos, with your dying breath you manage to say, "7843: successful"]
Mwuahahahah. Yes, I can dream. And you cant stop me. Dont even bother trying.
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Now even small kids can get a machine gun of their own. Sort of a "starter kit." Sorry, this does not seem like a good idea to me no matter how creative.
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Bah, counter doesn't work.
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Darnit...my counter script doesn't work on this server. Shoulda tested that first, eh? Anyway, I'll be replacing it with a crappy LinkExchange counter shortly.
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Colorado College vs the Lego Mac-10...
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I wonder what would happen if you built one of these guns during the Colorado College "new" admissions test and then exerted your leadership by holding the other test takers hostage.
It would demonstrate: - Engineering insite - Ability to apply technology in a stressful situation - Leadership - Do what I say or else! - It could be practical back in the 'hood to bust out a Lego Mac-10 on the playground with no risk of felony weapons charges.
Legos the coolest real toys ever
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I still love legos. When me and my friends used to get together we'd really come up with some cool stuff to create, model enterprises, etc.. But the wars were the best. I still remember the time we took a whole bunch of legos and arranged them into crude throwing stars. They really hurt, but if you missed and hit the wall you broke a few of your legos. But try and control their direction, you'd have better luck trying to push a car up a hill. But the closest I ever got to my gun was a crude piston like system that required you crank really fast. And then make sure everything was still together.:) But I always wondered, why bother building a really cool gun when you could just get the 2 x 4 bricks by the handful and whip them at your opponent, kinda like a shotgun effect? Ahh the memories.
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Re:OFFTOPIC, just a question about a .sig
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G.W. Junior ("Shrub") said that in reference to gwbush.com, a satirical web site that broadly made fun of "Shrub's" vapidity, rumors about his "youthful" cocaine use, etc. "Shrub" doesn't believe that the First Amendment covers making fun of him on a web site. He feels political commentary is going too far. What an airhead.
Yours WDK - WKiernan@concentric.net
Re:Where is the chicken blood drool?
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I went to your web site and I was tragically disappointed. The reason I find Ms. Portman so appealing, and I should think this goes for the rest of the geeks here on slashdot as well, is because of those wonderful photos of her all gothically white with that fetching stripe of blood in the middle of her lower lip. Alas I missed the movie (didn't play in the town where I live) but obviously that red stripe comes from biting chickens's heads off.
So here I rush to the web site on the other side of your link and there she is, breathtakingly undressed, yes all blessed, but then my blood runs cold as I realize, damn it all, where is the chicken blood!?!?
Life is a disappointment, nay, a cheat. (Arthur Schopenhauer said that.)
Thanks alot. I'll keep it handy.:) Dilbert: I have become one with my computer. It is a feeling of ecstacy... the blend of logic and emotion. I have reached...
Re:Right-wingers are censors, you moron.
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>...defends all of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not just > the popular ones (ACLU, I'm looking at you).
Look, the ACLU does its job and it does it damn well. And it has done it for more than eighty years in the face of fierce opposition from all sides - not only from the oligarchs and thought police whose entire business consists of forcing you to shut the fuck up, which makes sense as the ACLU is directly opposed to their interests, but also opposition from misguided types like yourself, who fail to realize that the number one reason they can complain about the government so freely and openly is spelled "A-C-L-U".
So God damn what if the ACLU focuses on the First Amendment to the exclusion of supporting your gun hobby? They're plenty busy defending the First Amendment, without which you God damn gun nuts wouldn't even get a chance to publicly protest. Keep in mind that you're not going up against a pack of perfumed postmodernists here; you're taking on the U.S. government! Go read about A. Mitchell Palmer, circa 1918, sometime. Go read about Martin Dies and Joseph McCarthy. In case you forgot, the first principle of all governments throughout history is, "Stamp on your critics." I get so God damned tired of people putting the ACLU down because it doesn't do the NRA's job for them. That's bullshit; you want the ACLU lawyers to come over to your house and wash your car while they're at it?
Instead of knocking the ACLU, why don't you go join the ACLU instead? They really need your money, and if you want to continue to have the freedom to shoot your mouth off the way you (and I) seem to enjoy doing right here and now, you want to give them some money too. Also go sign up with the EFF too while you've got your credit card out.
Yours WDK - WKiernan@concentric.net
ps the first poster is wrong, you know; all the gun nuts I happen to know are libertarians, not theocrats. Or at least the bloodthirsty theocrat-terrorists, would-be Talibani, amongst my acquaintances keep quiet about their nefarious plots in my presence.
and lego crack pipe (little clear 1x1s represent rocks) and big green lego spleeeeef, but when some fiend stars publishing the plans for those, then it will be time to crack down on the youth-corrupting distributors, both small (the Kay-Bee at the mall) and big (the mysterious, shadowy "Claus Syndicate" centered, some say, in the Arctic...)
No, it's real, that's the point, it's like therapy for programmers; see, legos are material. Material in discrete integral chunks with limited, highly specific functions, but it's a start. Soon after a gentle reorientation with these simple, bit-like material objects, they move on to stuffed dolls and swing-sets, things like that; and soon the detoxifying programmer can focus on and even grasp continuous natural phenomena, such as the flow of water, or aging and death.
IANAL -- I always just said lego not legos always thought people pluralizng the best toy in the universe by calling it "legos" were almost being sacreligous. But thats just me.
Re:For decades I have been annoyed with...
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I feel exactly the same way. They're called "legos" by the same people who pronounce "linux" with a long i.
After spending a little while actually building the thing, one major drawback became apparent.
Sure, it has a high firing rate (assuming the handle doesn't break), but it has no power to match!
Using 1x4 bricks yields a consistent result with a somewhat higher muzzle velocity, but there are better alternatives...
Take the classic axle 'crossbow'. It's contstructed completely out of technic lego, and fire the longest axles around at frightening speeds. Even better, simple versions can be slipped into a pocket
The most basic form is simply about 10 fairly wide beams held securely together, lined up so the axle can slip through with minimum friction. Then the rubber band wraps around the front (you need to make sure that it doesn't cover the exit hole. THen you pull the band tight, line up an axle, and release...
If the band is tight enough, the axle will pass through at least 2 sheets of corrugated cardboard before noticably slowing down
That's raw lego power power in anybody's language
Then there's the highly advanced pump action axle crossbow, but that can hardly be detailed through text...so...
Of all the words that come to mind....airhead is not included. lol The list is MUCH more colorful. *blush* (Such language is very unladylike of me) The more I hear about this man, the less I like him.
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I get so God damned tired of people putting the ACLU down because it doesn't do the NRA's job for them.
I was not really saying that the ACLU had to do the NRA's "job" (is it really their "job"?), but that it hypocritically denies that the 2nd Ammendment has any meaning at all while claiming to defend all American rights. I am grateful for the existence of the ACLU and the job they have done defending the citizens from government encroachment, but they rely on a simplistic and inaccurate "out" to relieve themselves of any responsibility to support civilian gun ownership no matter what the Bill of Rights says. It's obvious to me that their position is based on a matter of personal bias, not the universal acceptance of rights protected by the Constitution and its ammendments.
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Now this is what I call a point'n'click-interface!
We made some pretty kick-ass rubber band powered guns that shot the rods. They *really* can hurt.
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Do really dense people warp space more than others?
I can think of lots of uses for this:
- Bring to court and bop MPAA lawyers with legos. Won't do much harm but if you get em in the right place they'll look like they have acne.
- Give to Richard Stallman so he can enforce the GPL. "Stop or I'll Lego". Poetic geek justice.
- Equip all the Jon Katz flamers with one and set up a shooting range. Maybe they'll get it out of their system.
- Build a scale model of the MPAA building out of balsa wood and shoot it down with a hundred lego guns at point-blank range. Fun for the whole family!
- Build a statue of Natalie Portman naked. Maybe then the trolls would finally shut up. You may use the recent Sun photos as a template.
These are just a few uses for arguably the most important invention of the 21st century to-date!Thank you. I now return you to your regularly scheduled trolling, hot grits, natalie portman naked and petrified, etc.
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Sorry, just had to write that.
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Does someone have a mirror up? I tried going to the link but it's not responding. (already!)
Oh, go on, check out my job.
Where's the Lego potato cannon? That would be impressive.
(And where was this thing when I was 10 years old, and throwing the bricks by hand in my Lego battles?)
We can believe in you for 3 minutes, but beyond that, even the King of All Cosmos can't be expected to wait.
Great! Now I have to wait ten days before buying my lego A-Wing. Does this mean that legos have become too dangerous for anyone to have other than Approved Law Enforcement Authorities? I hope I'm not too subversive for silly putty-- I'm running out of toys which are not Bad Influences (TM).
Knowing the U.S. Government, this will be classified as a class III weapon by the BATF, causing LEGOs to be banned for importatoin, sale or use! ;-)
I agree that making a machine gun out of legos is pretty cool, but it's also a bit morbid. When I was a kid we made spaceships, and little towns with little people in them. Machine guns didn't really cross my mind.
Perhaps just the idea of making a toy weapon out of legos is a bit much for me... Why couldn't you make a water gun or something?
There go my childhood memories...
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
- We shouldn't be encouraging our children to glorify weapons with toys. Won't somebody please think of the children?
- Studies have shown that you're 7652 times more likely to shoot yourself with a Lego machine gun than you are to shoot an intruder.
- The Second Amendment of the US Constitution only grants an organized militia (i.e. the government) to have Lego machine guns.
- The need for Lego machine guns is historically obsolete because the playgrounds are run by democratic coalitions of children and not mean kids like in the old days.
- If the playground is taken over by mean kids, then Lego machine guns won't help the nice kids because the mean kids will have the overwhelming advantage of possessing Lego tanks and Lego nukes.
OK, that ought to get us started.-- $SIGNATURE
Seriously, it is interesting to see legos, a toy for building creativity, used as weaponry!
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"You spoony bard!" -Tellah
This is pretty neat and all, but did it need to be posted in an article by it's self? Maybe it would have been better suited with CmdrTaco's quickies (man I miss those)? :-)
BRING ON THE QUICKIES I SAY!
Then we could get a bunch at a time.
I find your lack of faith disturbing Darth Vader on the subject of open sourcing the death star plans
Geez, that went down quick. Anyone get a chance to mirror it?
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Is this the beginning of an armament race strated by the Robot Monkeys? I implore everyone to support banning Lego weapons for Robot Monkeys! If the Robotic Monkeys get Lego guns, they'll be free to force us around like sheep!
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I'd like to see you do that!
That would be an extremely interesting (and probably impossible) engineering challenge. Wonder if we can make lead-lined lego bricks...
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Wish I had that when I had to confront my ISP guys!
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Lock and load!
BTW, if you care to see my own Lego stuff, check out my website.
I, as a nerd, am somewhat lazy at times. I also like things that when misused turn into interesting toys. And I like PEZ. The solution? A PEZ cannon. I've been working on the concept for a few months now, and finally I have the solution. Using Mindstorms, I connect my PEZ cannon to my PC at work. Need a PEZ? How about thirty? No problem!! And with a simple keystroke (perhaps Ctrl-Alt-P) a predefined number of PEZ come screaming at my face. It's all ingenious, don't you think?
There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
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did this lego gun get the guy into college so he wouldn't have to take the SAT?
just a couple of questions that have niggled at me for a while..
Why do some people call a pile of LEGO bricks, LEGO and others say LEGOs? What is the correct terminology?
Does LEGO stand for anything?
ok so its not facts vital to mankind but this is the kind of stuff i think about when i have insomnia....
First of all, the 30 round magazines are illegal. Of course, no non-military person needs such an extreme rate of fire! And don't even get me started on the fact that the plastic bits can be transported through the detectors at the airport. Heck, someone could hijack a plane by building the darned thing after they board!
I know what you're thinking, if we outlaw LEGO then only outlaws will play with LEGO. But at what price? How many stories on the next Columbine do we need to hear from Katz before we wake up to the reality of how dangerous this can be? People can't be safe what with all these robots running around, now possibly armed.
So write your Congress, the MPAA, and anyone else who can be swayed to abuse their power for no reason. Obviously this guy should be locked up since he is telling everyone how to make guns and providing the plans.
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That thing kicks ass! I wonder if I can make a decent case out of Legos. Hrmmmm.... Sharkey
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Expect to see more stories from the Hellmouth - Pre-schoolers bringing Lego machine guns to school and shooting everyone up! Imagine: Drive-by Lego'ings in Power Wheels! No one will be safe.
On the bright side, maybe the availibility of Lego machine guns will deter young terrorists from using actual firearms.
If a reporter were covering us (actually, one is), I wonder if it would figure in the article that, for all our interest in impassioned debate about education, the education story doesn't come back, but the legos get more coverage.
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I was expecting a Lego-sized machine gun, to fit into those little hands. It'd be perfect for playing "LMI vs. Symbolics" (for the clue-impaired amongst you, an ancestral version of "BSD vs. GPL") with my Lego set.
Anyway... does anyone remember that program that built Lego bridges using a genetic algorithm? Why not put it to use improving this machine gun? I bet in a few thousand generations it'd turn out a real weapon of mass destruction. Hell yeah!
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I used to play Lego demolition derby, which consisted of each player building a vehicle and taking it in turns to ram your opponents, with last vehicle left mobile still winning.
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If I'd known my Lego vehicles could have projectile weapons my childhood would have been a lot more fun [and I'd probably have been seen by a lot of psychiatrists
On terrestrial UK TV [can't remember the channel] there is a program called "Robot Wars" where teams of people build radio controlled vehicles whose aim is to demolish the other vehicle.
It should be possible to create a similar type of competition involving designing Lego Mindstorm vehicles, only with no external interference allowed. Anyone ever tried this ?
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Boy, this guy's a shoo-in at any of the schools which are using LEGO projects as admission criteria now. I can see it now:
"Okay, uh, your Lego project doesn't really look much like it's supposed to, frankly we're a little disappointed in... Hey! Put that down! OK! You're in! You're in!"
Here are some links:
p ://www.metalstorm-ltd.com/ .odwyer-smartgun.com/entry.html
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9706/28/super.gun/
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From what I can tell, all this seems to be is an electronic firing system (think of a multi-barreled gun, with a bullet in each barrel, and each bullet wired to fire - hence no moving parts, high rate of fire - but not many bullets to fire).
Personally, I think a machine gun would be better, as these devices seem to make you reload after only a few shots (4-6 in the handgun case, maybe 50 or so in the larger versions). In the case of a handgun, it might make a little sense - but for anything where you want to "hose" something for a little while, well...
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The webserver on that machine is now entirely dead... I am getting an 80ms ping from that box though. :) I swear /. is the most deadly distributed denial of cervix application out there in existence to this date.
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This is a good preview for lego's new "domestic violence" line that's supposed to be debuting next year.
Let us be thankful that Hitler never had this power, although I bet they were working on it near the end.
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In addition to the LEGO machine gun design posted on the web, Clinton cited the possible use of LEGO Mindstorm sets to plant terrorist devices.
When pressed as to how a LEGO machine gun could pose a theat to American society, Clinton responded, "You could put an eye out with those things. We must protect the children!"
Meanwhile, Al Gore, campaigning at a daycare in South Carolina, told kids that he "invented LEGOs."
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Here is a link that better describes the process - this seems right:
t /ascott.htm
http://www.dig.bris.ac.uk/teaching/o_a_hf/ascot
Essentially what I said previously, except multiple bullets in the barrel, each seperated by a charge. The charges are electronically controlled (set off), the heat of the explosion expands the bullet behind it, keeping the heat from igniting the charges behind the next bullet. Rate of fire determined by barrel cooling, and rate at which bullets leave barrel.
Better trust the software/hardware behind these devices - can you imagine what would happen if the wrong bullet was fired out of order (Oops! Where did my hand go!)...
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Your puny little lego popgun is a mere shadow of my uberpowerful 155mm tinkertoy howitzer
... needs some help. Lego Machine guns are a thing from the past, try the new and improved LEGO howlitzer. It's capable of hitting LA from DC with over a thousand shards of LEGO, (formally known as "airplane wings")
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The basic idea was that if you'd shout "Beer Me!", the device would recognize your call, turn to face you, estimate distance, and launch a beer at you (which you'd naturally grab out of the air).
We had a couple problems that made us give up development:
- our targetting was poor. The device was able to direction-find pretty accurately, but the rangefinding wasn't very good -- it would frequently target the wall six feet behind you, or the like.
- the launching mechanism required a fair bit of power, that made the device relatively unfeasible for normal home use. For example, we had to attach two cylinders of compressed air, and that didn't last long.
- in order to get a clean launch, each can had to be placed in a "non-discarding sabot" -- a jacket that fit over each beer and provided a better fit against the launch mechanism. We only had one such jacket, 'cause it was a pain to make. Cans aren't terribly ballistic, as-is.
- since we used compressed air, and we weren't really good at metering it, our launches were of irregular force. It was nearly impossible to get the can flying at exactly the right speed.
In retrospect, we perhaps shouldn't have given up so easily, but when you've had a few too many cans shot at your head, you start to get spooked easily. Plus the cans were able to dent sheetrock, and therefore messed up our walls pretty badly.Anyone want to take up the effort? It'd be a cool party trick, but don't blame me if you kill someone.
I have no
Someone needs to snag that picture of a 2x4 brick and use it as the /. icon for Legos!
#naabhaprzrag, #sverubfr-000, #agi-fcbafberq, negvpyr[pynff*=' negvpyr-ary-'] { qvfcynl: abar !vzcbegnag; }
...seems perfectly natural to me. But then again, I _did_ build a Lego trebuchet when I was a kid. It'd throw marbles about forty feet...
Ah, the memories.... :)
--WhiskeyJack
Now I have something to aim towards my Microsoft Certified Professional action figures....
--The Groove
WE HAVE DETECTED A MOMENT OF CREATIVITY AND IMAGINATION, CEASE AND DESIST ALL MERRY-MAKING AND RETURN TO OFFICIALLY APPROVED FUNTIMES.
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Personally, I've always had serious thing for Ryoko. *drool*
I said that; Slashdot fucked up. I'm very proud of my love for Ryoko, and I would never post such a thing AC intentionally.
Ryoko, Ryoko, Ryoko! I'm geekier than Tenchi any day, baby! Get back here!
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Other useless trivia from LEGO.com's website:
- The international LEGO Group was established in 1932 and is one of the worlds largest toy manufactorers, employing about 10,000 people in 50 companies in 30 countries. Did you know...
("O, 'LEGO bricks' is plural" =anagram> "Erg, I'll use 'pair o' blocks'.")4.9152 cm3 is the volume of an 8-stud LEGO brick. It measures 9.6 x 32 x 16 mm.
Thousands of a mm - that's the tolerance of accuracy at the LEGO mould factories.
102,981,500 are how many different ways there are to combine six 8-stud bricks of the same colour. If you haven't that much time, you can take three 8-stud bricks - same colour - and fit them together in 1,060 ways. Two 8-stud bricks - still the same colour - can be put together in 24 ways.
203,000,000,000 (203 billion) LEGO elements or thereabouts - were moulded between 1949 and the end of 1998. Of these, 6.5 billion are eight-stud bricks. And 2.3 billion Mini figures have been moulded, decorated and assembled since 1978.
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If I knew how, I'd create a LEGO BFG for Quake III or UT. Now that's fragalicious!
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I just wish I could c:\format Internet
couple this with a little mindstorm inventiveness and you have hours of fun and enjoyment (pain?). I have already programming my mindstorm bot to chase our black cat around the apartment. ....
Ouch*
Just got a mental picture of my poor cat getting pelted by volleys of high speed legos.
This entire article is a fraud!
It's powered by a rubber band, not LEGOs. (Though I guess if you strached one of the little rubber tires on a LEGO car set, you might be able to make it work)
Since the power source is a rubber band, the premise of the story is false, in that I could make a real gun out of LEGO's as long as I am willing to use black powder as my power source. (or in the case mentioned in another thread, plutonium for a LEGO A-bomb, though it is MUCH harder to get than rubber bands)
Work for Change & GET PAID!
I had already posted something else earlier and didn't want to look like I was hogging I guess. Glad to see people enjoyed it. I really liked some of the other responses better myself.
Cheers!
Do really dense people warp space more than others?
Moderation Totals:Lawsuit Bait=1, Insightful=1, Geekvalue=5 Total=7.
Never knock on Death's door:
More race stuff in one place,
than any one place on the net.
'nuff said.
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I'm thinking you take a few of the machine-gun guy's LEGO Toy Canyons, one of his guns, and this six-legged walker ... pick a battlefield, and go forth and conquer. :)
Which brings up the question: is there a way to get some Crusoe chips into these, set up TCP/IP, and have the battles remotely via webcams?
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I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
When I was a lil' munchkin, I used to build "bombs" out of popsickle sticks. It would just be a bunch of popsickle sticks arranged so that it was all held together by tension. If you removed or dislodged one stick, they whole thing would lose tension and fly apart, scattering sticks everywhere.
Just throwing it or having someone "accidently" step on it was enough to make it "explode."
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As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
If only you'd get a brain and not confuse "white supremecists" with "gun nuts", you might make a little more sense.
Somebody please moderate down this ignorant troll.
"Prejudice is wrong; you should hate everyone the same."
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a Lego gun, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of Lego firearms, or of Lego Copying; or the right of the little Lego people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the Lego people to keep and bear Lego Arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III
No Lego-armed Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and Lego, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or Lego to be seized.
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a Lego, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the Lego land or Lego naval forces, or in the Lego Militia, when in actual service in time of Lego War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in Lego jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of Lego, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private Lego property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI
In all criminal Lego prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial Lego jury of the State and district wherein the Lego crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Lego Counsel for his defense.
Amendment VII
In suits at common Lego law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by Lego jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a Lego jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any Lego Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the Lego common law.
Amendment VIII
Excessive Lego bail shall not be required, nor excessive Lego fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual Lego punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Lego Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the Lego people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the Lego States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the Lego States respectively, or to the Lego people.
Never knock on Death's door:
More race stuff in one place,
than any one place on the net.
(another special from Jon Dogz)
After a recent article on Slashdot regarding Lego Machine Guns, there has been a proliferation of violence connected with small plastic blocks in our society. Indeed, the Anarchist's Cookbook has added several chapters on Lego Weaponry, including a simple example of how to create a critical mass of certain Legos with intent to create cold fusion as a power source for a Lego rail-gun. There are record numbers of children in our schools that have been impaled with these ordinarily "fun" toys since this last report.
Several ofthe most extreme cases involve a preschool and an airplane. Little Private Burrito (an unfortunate name) went to preschool one day, with great expectations of play time, only to be struck repeatedly with high-speed Legos from his (former) friend Humis' Lego gun. Several other children were bloodied, and almost 90% of the class wet their pants during this event. We cannot continue to allow such things in the hands of babes...
But in the hands of adults, Legos are even more dangerous. Jaques Strappe recently hijacked an airliner, with over 75 people on board, using a modified rapid-fire semi-automatic Lego Gun. Though no passengers were hurt, several first class travelers were apparently shouting such things as "Golly!" and "Lordy, Lordy!". After he was apprehended, Strappe claimed to have found the plans for his weapon on the Internet. No lawsuits have been filed against Lego or Slashdot/Andover/VA as of yet, but you can be sure that there are many to come...
"It's tough to be bilingual when you get hit in the head."
how long until some terrorists decide to modify this and hijack a plane ? getting plastic toys through airport security would be no problem.
- Had massive Lego castle wars with my brothers
- Had Lego car ramming competitions
- Built Lincoln Log houses and launched smaller Lincoln Logs at them with a crude Lincoln Log catapult
- Made crossbows out of Tinker-Toys and rubber bands
I think you just had a boring childhood."Prejudice is wrong; you should hate everyone the same."
I don't have many childhood memories. Go Figure.
Network Security: It always comes down to a big guy with a gun.
There are so many "lego" stories on slashdot, why not make a category and icon specifically for legos. I'll make the the icon if you want.
Enter the DirtMerchant
I think I'll come up with my own encryption algorithm based on this. Do the US export laws prevent me from sending information out about 6x8 stud encryption?
And how many colors are LEGO bricks available in anyway?
Do really dense people warp space more than others?
Next.... the Lego warhead.
-brain
Slashdot moderators need to start looking at timestamps on responses. If someone asks a question and two people reply with exactly the same answer at almost exactly the same time, then I would hardly call that redundant.
Now if I had answered ten minutes later after reading all of the responses, then moderate me down and ruin my karma, otherwise don't be such an ass and mess with my karma you bastards!
Taco, FIX THIS! A double mod of Redundant is redundant and as such the moderators should lose karma points at the same time.
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MoooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
careful, use of this word has recently come under fire because it looks and sounds like another word
Shut up brain or I'll stab you with a Q-Tip. - Homer Simpson
Now all we need are LEGO-proof vests to protect you against other people with LEGO machine guns.
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Why aren't we using the LEGO icon?
Now all we need to do is manufacture Lego's out of C4 and then the fun will really begin.
Imagine the Lego howitzer, mortar launcher, or Tank cannon....
The possibilities are endless. Couple it with that really cool Lego mindstorm stuff and we've just given playtime a whole new definition of fun.
-- A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake without ketchup and mustard
I once made a lego machine gun that shot an assembly of a 2x1 flat brick with the ridges in it and a 2x2 flat brick underneath with a 2x2 gear connected to my motor. The Technic gears fit nicely into the ridges, as long as there's only one bump-worth of them. The fire rate was poor because I couldn't get the "bullets" out of the holder fast enough. Also, aiming was limited, because I had to point it down to get the bullets out, then point it to where I wanted to shoot, while the thing came out. Those things do get accelerated pretty fast, though. Not much of a range, I guess my batteries were weak at that point.
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Seeing is believing; You wouldn't have seen it if you didn't believe it.
Technics ROCKED for stuff like that. If you could make an 10 unit (or longer) axle go straight (slightly harder than I originally thought when I did it), it's easy to use the old 4.5V motor to just drive it out at a decent speed.
Of course, fast isn't fast enough for me. Set up a small gearbox to go with that, and you'll still have enough torque to get by with nothing more than wheels after that.
The best part? You can make it LOOK like a crossbow, but it'll fire like a submachine gun at the very slowest. At the fastest? I never measured, but drop in loading and nearly instant firing are enough to make *me* happy.
Christopher Kalos
Raptor
"Procrastination is great. It gives me a lot more time to do things that I'm never going to do."
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
-Albert Einstein
It will obviously be fought with Legos...
When I was a kid I was making tanks out of Tinker-Toys, had really cool exploading action on my Lincoln Log cabins (acheived by sliding one of the flat roof pieces under the foundation, using a small log for a fulcrum and pushing down on the opposite end). And most definitely I made lots of guns out of Lego's, Lock-Blocks, and whatever else they had back then... Granted, mine didn't actually shoot anything, but if I had the ingenuity you can bet they would have.
And as for the Lego towns and spaceships. They never got blown up by an enemy star cruiser or something, and you never took advantage of the fact that Lego people could be split into multiple parts. Its all natural.. (I think?!?!)
Wow the memories are now coming back of all the crazy menacing devices I created with Capsela and Robotix, also. Boy that was fun stuff. Thanks for invoking the trip down memory lane...
-- A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake without ketchup and mustard
Ok, Now my Robot AI script will be for IRC, Quake, File Filtering, and An Unyholy Army of Legos.
Now think on this: Might this be just how the Matrix "AI" was born? This is what sparked the War! Soon people will discover how to make rapid-fire 1x1 unstopable Lego Bricks make from depleted uranium!
These things will fire faster than the speed of sound!
"Alright, this is Blacktron 7843, We're ready with the new Beam Cannon"
"Roger that 7843, You are Authorized"
[Cannon Fires a Stream of Lego Bricks, The Base security Shatters, The Base Shatters, The Platform the base was on shatters, The Plane that was on splits in half and flies off in both directions, The Floor gets driven through and it kills your sister who was working on the computer downstairs at the time. Because You had a Lego Mindstorm AI controlling the Cannon, It re-targets and blows apart the walls, sending the roof crashing down, But it's not over yet- this rocked, you used glue, little bricks start breaking windows and splitting trees, A stray one catches the air and knocks out a plane's engine, The plane crashes about a mile away, And your gun- It's still firing, The whol area is in devestation or chaos, with your dying breath you manage to say, "7843: successful"]
Mwuahahahah.
Yes, I can dream. And you cant stop me. Dont even bother trying.
-- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
What havoc technology wreaks. Pretty soon the thought police are going to throw some five year old in jail for mowing down thirty lego men at once.
Now even small kids can get a machine gun of their own. Sort of a "starter kit." Sorry, this does not seem like a good idea to me no matter how creative.
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This page is taking a while to load due to slashdotting, so I figured I'd be nice and put up a mirror.
Just so you know, I changed it to an ASP file. This is only so I could add a counter script that I wrote to it. And yes, this means this mirror is being hosted on an NT box. Take that however you will.
Anyway, the mirror is at http://silverlight.org/cray/lego/
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"I personal[ly] think Unix is "superior" because on LSD it tastes like Blue." -- jbarnett
Darnit...my counter script doesn't work on this server. Shoulda tested that first, eh? Anyway, I'll be replacing it with a crappy LinkExchange counter shortly.
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"I personal[ly] think Unix is "superior" because on LSD it tastes like Blue." -- jbarnett
Hey I've read this before! Just can't remember the Title/Section # of the U.S. code. :( Do you remember, or does the Library of Congress have a webpage? Really want to look into the details... :)
Dilbert: I have become one with my computer. It is a feeling of ecstacy... the blend of logic and emotion. I have reached...
I wonder what would happen if you built one of these guns during the Colorado College "new" admissions test and then exerted your leadership by holding the other test takers hostage.
It would demonstrate:
- Engineering insite
- Ability to apply technology in a stressful situation
- Leadership - Do what I say or else!
- It could be practical back in the 'hood to bust out a Lego Mac-10 on the playground with no risk of felony weapons charges.
10 USC 311 at uscode.house.gov.
I still love legos. When me and my friends used to get together we'd really come up with some cool stuff to create, model enterprises, etc.. But the wars were the best. I still remember the time we took a whole bunch of legos and arranged them into crude throwing stars. They really hurt, but if you missed and hit the wall you broke a few of your legos. But try and control their direction, you'd have better luck trying to push a car up a hill. But the closest I ever got to my gun was a crude piston like system that required you crank really fast. And then make sure everything was still together. :) But I always wondered, why bother building a really cool gun when you could just get the 2 x 4 bricks by the handful and whip them at your opponent, kinda like a shotgun effect? Ahh the memories.
Everyone should read BAMF daily. Everyone. Don't forget the gaming section.
G.W. Junior ("Shrub") said that in reference to gwbush.com, a satirical web site that broadly made fun of "Shrub's" vapidity, rumors about his "youthful" cocaine use, etc. "Shrub" doesn't believe that the First Amendment covers making fun of him on a web site. He feels political commentary is going too far. What an airhead.
Yours WDK - WKiernan@concentric.net
I went to your web site and I was tragically disappointed. The reason I find Ms. Portman so appealing, and I should think this goes for the rest of the geeks here on slashdot as well, is because of those wonderful photos of her all gothically white with that fetching stripe of blood in the middle of her lower lip. Alas I missed the movie (didn't play in the town where I live) but obviously that red stripe comes from biting chickens's heads off.
So here I rush to the web site on the other side of your link and there she is, breathtakingly undressed, yes all blessed, but then my blood runs cold as I realize, damn it all, where is the chicken blood!?!?
Life is a disappointment, nay, a cheat. (Arthur Schopenhauer said that.)
Yours WDK - WKiernan@concentric.net
Thanks alot. I'll keep it handy. :)
Dilbert: I have become one with my computer. It is a feeling of ecstacy... the blend of logic and emotion. I have reached...
> ...defends all of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not just
> the popular ones (ACLU, I'm looking at you).
Look, the ACLU does its job and it does it damn well. And it has done it for more than eighty years in the face of fierce opposition from all sides - not only from the oligarchs and thought police whose entire business consists of forcing you to shut the fuck up, which makes sense as the ACLU is directly opposed to their interests, but also opposition from misguided types like yourself, who fail to realize that the number one reason they can complain about the government so freely and openly is spelled "A-C-L-U".
So God damn what if the ACLU focuses on the First Amendment to the exclusion of supporting your gun hobby? They're plenty busy defending the First Amendment, without which you God damn gun nuts wouldn't even get a chance to publicly protest. Keep in mind that you're not going up against a pack of perfumed postmodernists here; you're taking on the U.S. government! Go read about A. Mitchell Palmer, circa 1918, sometime. Go read about Martin Dies and Joseph McCarthy. In case you forgot, the first principle of all governments throughout history is, "Stamp on your critics." I get so God damned tired of people putting the ACLU down because it doesn't do the NRA's job for them. That's bullshit; you want the ACLU lawyers to come over to your house and wash your car while they're at it?
Instead of knocking the ACLU, why don't you go join the ACLU instead? They really need your money, and if you want to continue to have the freedom to shoot your mouth off the way you (and I) seem to enjoy doing right here and now, you want to give them some money too. Also go sign up with the EFF too while you've got your credit card out.
Yours WDK - WKiernan@concentric.net
ps the first poster is wrong, you know; all the gun nuts I happen to know are libertarians, not theocrats. Or at least the bloodthirsty theocrat-terrorists, would-be Talibani, amongst my acquaintances keep quiet about their nefarious plots in my presence.
and lego crack pipe (little clear 1x1s represent rocks) and big green lego spleeeeef, but when some fiend stars publishing the plans for those, then it will be time to crack down on the youth-corrupting distributors, both small (the Kay-Bee at the mall) and big (the mysterious, shadowy "Claus Syndicate" centered, some say, in the Arctic...)
Yours WDK - WKiernan@concentric.net
No, it's real, that's the point, it's like therapy for programmers; see, legos are material. Material in discrete integral chunks with limited, highly specific functions, but it's a start. Soon after a gentle reorientation with these simple, bit-like material objects, they move on to stuffed dolls and swing-sets, things like that; and soon the detoxifying programmer can focus on and even grasp continuous natural phenomena, such as the flow of water, or aging and death.
Yours WDK - WKiernan@concentric.net
IANAL -- I always just said lego not legos always thought people pluralizng the best toy in the universe by calling it "legos" were almost being sacreligous. But thats just me.
at least people are doing useful stuff with their time...
After spending a little while actually building the thing, one major drawback became apparent.
Sure, it has a high firing rate (assuming the handle doesn't break), but it has no power to match!
Using 1x4 bricks yields a consistent result with a somewhat higher muzzle velocity, but there are better alternatives...
Take the classic axle 'crossbow'. It's contstructed completely out of technic lego, and fire the longest axles around at frightening speeds. Even better, simple versions can be slipped into a pocket
The most basic form is simply about 10 fairly wide beams held securely together, lined up so the axle can slip through with minimum friction. Then the rubber band wraps around the front (you need to make sure that it doesn't cover the exit hole. THen you pull the band tight, line up an axle, and release...
If the band is tight enough, the axle will pass through at least 2 sheets of corrugated cardboard before noticably slowing down
That's raw lego power power in anybody's language
Then there's the highly advanced pump action axle crossbow, but that can hardly be detailed through text...so...
Lego, very conveniently, also mean "I collect", or "I read" in Latin... Check out that dictionary!
http://ward.vandewege.net/blog/
Of all the words that come to mind....airhead is not included. lol The list is MUCH more colorful. *blush* (Such language is very unladylike of me) The more I hear about this man, the less I like him.
"The light at the end of the tunnel is undoubtedly the headlamp of an oncoming train." - Mrs. Murphy
Now do you see why we need more Gun Control laws? This guy should hook up with the NRA. (Nachos, Rifles, and Alcohol, according to Homer Simpson.)
- I get so God damned tired of people putting the ACLU down because it doesn't do the NRA's job for them.
I was not really saying that the ACLU had to do the NRA's "job" (is it really their "job"?), but that it hypocritically denies that the 2nd Ammendment has any meaning at all while claiming to defend all American rights. I am grateful for the existence of the ACLU and the job they have done defending the citizens from government encroachment, but they rely on a simplistic and inaccurate "out" to relieve themselves of any responsibility to support civilian gun ownership no matter what the Bill of Rights says. It's obvious to me that their position is based on a matter of personal bias, not the universal acceptance of rights protected by the Constitution and its ammendments."Prejudice is wrong; you should hate everyone the same."
Personally.. i've always had a serious thing for Ryo-ohki.
DROOOL
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