World Govs Choose Linux For Security & More

pjones writes "Government Technology reports that "For reasons of national security and national pride, government officials in countries like China, France and Germany are increasingly adopting the free, open-source computer operating system known as Linux." Noted in the article are China's Red Flag, NSA's Security-Enhanced Linux and much more."

Comments

First rock post!

[Ozzy Osbourne]

Ozzy was here!

Re:First rock post!

[I.H.S.W.R.K.]

Congrats on the first rockin' post Ozzy! And remember, until next time, keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars!

Re:First rock post!

[Anonymous Coward]

Can you teach about having sex with retarded kids? I mean, where do you find them? How old are they? Do you ever worry that they'll rat you out? Are they better in bed? C'mon! I want the gory details!

Re:First rock post!

[Ozzy Osbourne]

I bit the head off a retard kid once. I thought he was a dove or something. A large misshapen dove with mongol features. Made a lot of noise, that one!

I claim this first post for the Queen of Spain!

[Anonymous Coward]

She's a government leader who chose Linux because Columbus discovered it in the New World (tm).

This post...

[I.H.S.W.R.K.]

...will probably not be first. If it is, then let me just say DOWN SYNDROME IS #1!!!

Coincidence?

[I.H.S.W.R.K.]

Hmm, China is obviously communist, Germany is full of neo-nazis and sons of nazis, and France is full of pussies who bent over for the nazis. That's some fine company for Linux!

this story is old

[Anonymous Coward]

World governments choosing Linux for national security (Dec. 1, 2001)

http://detnews.com/2001/technews/0112/01/technol og y-356385.htm

Re:this story is old

[Anonymous Coward]

well fuck me in the ass and call me cmdrtaco, your right!

Re:this story is old

[Hinano]

Well, it is an AP story.

national pride?

[NeoTomba]

Wow. I can safely say that slashdot is full of microsoft hating linux zealots. Hell, I'm probably one of them.

And every day, you see a million and one reasons why Linux is superior, microsoft sucks, blah blah blah.

But I can safely say, nobody has EVER mentioned "national pride" as the reason Linux is superior.

I suppose it makes sense. If I were from China, I'd hate to use software from America's #1 conglomerate as well, I guess.

Oh, and if anyone can dig up a link to Red Flag Linux... I definately want a copy.

-neotomba

Re:national pride?

[I.H.S.W.R.K.]

Oh, and if anyone can dig up a link to Red Flag Linux... I definately want a copy.

YOU FUCKING PINKO!! I didn't watch my buddies die in the frozen mud of Korea just so you could get free copies of an obviously COMMUNIST operating system. You sir, are WORSE THAN HITLER, and IF I EVER MEET YOU, I WILL KICK YOUR ASS!!

Re:national pride?

[fishebulb]

there is a name attached to this so i dont know what to think its not some anonymous loser.

whats worse is that people actually believe the communist rhetoric the US shoved down eveeryones throats.

As abbie hoffman would say:
"If someone asks me if im communist or jewish, i will say yes if i know it will make them mad"

If someone gets all upset about something being communist/evil/whatever i will get it just to spite that person

Re:national pride?

[Anonymous Coward]

communism == mass murder stalin mao, polpot, kim castro Lenin ----------- hitler was a socialist

Re:national pride?

[fishebulb]

try READING a history book, hitler was a dictator once in power, so was stalin, mao and polpot.

Castro doesnt have anything to do with mass murder, same with lenin (well except for the revolution, but thats a different issue).

the only thing those three had to do with communism is that their economy was communist.

anyone can say they are something, doesnt make it so. stalin was about as much of a communist (outside of economics) as i am an olympic runner

Re:national pride?

[derF024]

>But I can safely say, nobody has EVER mentioned
>"national pride" as the reason Linux is superior.

well, the article did. maybe you should have read it.

Re:national pride?

[Anonymous Coward]

As abbie hoffman would say: "If someone asks me if im communist or jewish, i will say yes if i know it will make them mad"

Abbie Hoffman is dead you goddamn commie.

Re:national pride?

[fishebulb]

holy shit he's dead?, wow i never knew that, considering it happened a decade ago. minus ten stating the obvious. btw i take that as a compliment

Re:national pride?

[Anonymous Coward]

try READING a history book, hitler was a dictator once in power, so was stalin, mao and polpot.

The difference between these, of course, is Hitler was elected.

Re:national pride?

[Anonymous Coward]

His name is I.H.S.W.R.K....

His sig is I Have Sex With Retarded Kids.

I believe not checking "Post Anonymously" was not an accident.

Re:national pride?

[Anonymous Coward]

Sort of. Hitler beat the shit out of his competetion until he was the only choice. When you have only one choice, it's easy to say "See! I was elected."

BAH!

Re:national pride?

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm an historian and you are *so* wrong.
Stalin was a communist and a popular one here in Western Europe. He beated the nazi's remember. When the Cold War started, the USA started his propaganda campain to make him look like a criminal. I check the sources, they are fake. Read whatever anti-Stalin book. Check the sources. The are all from Italina fascists, trotskists and cia-agents.

Check the sources! That what you learn on you fist year at university.

C.

Re:national pride?

[spamkabuki]

Getcha red hot Red Flag!

www.redflag-linux.com/peixun/ecb.html

Re:national pride?

[-brazil-]

Not quite. He actually did win the election mostly by telling people who'd been living in poverty for years that they were superior, part of something wonderful, and that he'd solve all their problems if they'd let him. i.e. patriotism and empty promises, same formula that all politicians use.

Re:national pride?

[vegardolsen]

Stalin was a communism, but that does not mean that there were communism in soviet. In soviet there was socialism, communism have never been accomplished. to accomplis communism, there have to be socialism first. thats the first step to communism.

Re:national pride?

[ImaLamer]

Ever see steal this movie? pretty sweet.

Re:national pride?

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, don't get me wrong, I like Linux, but with all the recent exploits for major distributions floating around I wouldn't exactly be proud of it right now. Major bugs in the Linux kernel itself, exploits or DOS bugs in at least a half dozen common server programs under major distributions (wu-ftpd, lpd, rpc server, the RPM program, LPRng, OpenSSH, Apache prior to 1.3.22 in Mandrake, etc.). Microsoft does suck but remember that people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. All operating systems are going to have bugs but lately we've been hit by a few doozies. I mean hell, 2.4.11 was a complete disaster that corrupted your filesystem! Can you imagine that ever getting past anyone else's Q&A department? Even Microsoft would catch a bug that would completely corrupt a filesystem on shutdown.

Re:national pride?

[sql*kitten]

Oh, and if anyone can dig up a link to Red Flag Linux... I definately want a copy

Ironic, isn't it, that Open Source is being used to support the activities of governments that are resolutely anti-freedom. I don't expect we'll ever know if the Chinese government respect the GPL... or if they use Linux to monitor the email of dissidents or hold databases of citizens who stray from Maoist thought.

But hey, to the average Slashbot, torturing political prisoners in concentration camps is preferable to Microsoft, whose only crime is that given the choice, some people like to buy their stuff.

Re:national pride?

[Anonymous Coward]

Linux is superior because of the source.

IN this case, it is not necessarily a good thing. It means that in tighter countries like China, where they cannot think to get Microsoft to put in all the control and monitoring functions that the Chinese Government would like to have, that China can roll their own stuff for this into their own Official Rising Phoenix Linux distribution without having to worry about political pressure in other countries (the US) possibly getting Microsoft to back off on somethings. It is sort of a dirty secret that selling networking hardware in China means that your hardware facilitates things that are not allowed or would be accepted in the US were the US Govment to try and do the same things.

Re:national pride?

[ethereal]

Oh, come on, surely you can put together a better Microsoft troll than that - I've seen you do it in the past :).

Corrupt and powerful governments will act evilly no matter what tools they have, and I don't see how the use of Linux has made their actions much easier. They could just as easily spy on dissidents, etc. with Microsoft products.

And in fact, if you are a dissident in China, it is probably safer for you to download independent Linux sources and compile your own apps, than it is for you to use Microsoft China's products and hope that they haven't added any government-required back doors. The government's standardization on a platform that is available from many independent, non-government-controlled sources besides the official government version is a Good Thing for the people of China.

But hey, to the average Slashbot, torturing political prisoners in concentration camps is preferable to Microsoft, whose only crime is that given the choice, some people like to buy their stuff.

I don't think anyone here is in favor of torturing political prisoners. And I, for one, would love to be given the choice of whether or not to buy Microsoft. Unfortunately, in many cases Microsoft's actions have been concentrated on removing that choice. So I have little sympathy for when they find themselves in a situation where a government has removed them from being a choice - turnabout is fair play, says I.

Re:national pride?

[alptraum]

Here's a link to Red Flag Linux's English version site:

http://www.redflag-linux.com/eindex.html

Re:national pride?

[Doomdark]

where they cannot think to get Microsoft to put in all the control and monitoring functions that the Chinese Government would like to have

Why do you think that's true? Given enough money, Microsoft (like, it seems, all big corporations nowadays), would probably be more than happy to sell a "security enhanced" version of Chinadows XP. Make no mistake, when money talks bullshit walks; if it was profitable, and Chinese gov't paid the bill, there's no reason why Bill & co would NOT do it. Same goes for Apple, IBM, probably also for a few (if not all) linux distro makers.

Similar things have been going on for all kinds of hardware/system exports; especially projects in rich oil countries have had all kinds of weird 'customizations' done, related to various local regulations or customs (women can't use systems, or are the only ones allowed to use, depending on where the system is installed).

I'm not saying it's good that companies do that, or that it's even unpreventable (companies are regulated, export regulations could, in theory, include restrictions on exporting eavesdropping stuff, ie. prevent including that in OS), but it is a fact that these things are done.

Remember the stories about virus detection software makers kissing US gov't butt (as a result of 9/11 attacks), announcing they have absolutely nothing against looking the other way when FBI virus creeps in? See the parallels here?

Re:national pride?

[Anonymous Coward]

Hello, Brazil!

If you want to represent us, please write better: at least you should've mentioned you were talking about Hitler.

Re:national pride?

[Anonymous Coward]

Come on...

What the previous poster wanted to say was that Stalin didn't follow the Communist ideals very closely.

One can agree with Communism, or disagree, but it was not the filthy mixture of authoritarianism, racism that Stalin used to practice.

Read books that are not so blindly anticommunist...

World Govs Choose Snot for CmdrTaco & More

[George WIPO Bush]

THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ By The WIPO Troll, $Revision: 1.12 $

Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco, in which he seems to be speaking in some kind of code language?

Whenever Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual orgies with him. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with the letter P in it, you're in trouble.

So this time, he found you. Lucky you.

CmdrTaco's code language is relatively easy to decipher. He prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo to evade the watchful (but relatively stupid) eye of Slashdot's parent corporation, VA Software. CmdrTaco's "Commander" is, of course, his penis -- a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants that only comes out in the presence of other men or at the beck and call of CmdrTaco's own right hand. His "Taco bells" are the shriveled testes that droop beneath his Commander, and his "Taco sauce" is his, well, jizz. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means when he asks you to "ring his Taco bells" or "taste his gourmet Taco sauce."

Lastly, there is a practice he refers to as "Taco-snotting" and the more shocking "circle-snot."

Good Lord. What is "Taco-snotting?"

"Taco-snotting" is the term used by CmdrTaco to refer to the practice of sucking the penis of a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumored to prefer rape), then blowing the semen out his nose onto his partner's (victim's) face and body. A long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTaco's face, dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."

A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel, and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum -- spooging their jizz-snot all over each other's faces and pasty, white bodies, until they're covered head to toe with each other's man juice. This can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.

To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

Hopefully.

You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an Open Source Convention. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some "gourmet Tacos," but when I got there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm... then he snotted my own milky-white jizz back onto my face, into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.

CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) buddies over to continue the twisted snotfest. Linux Torvalds raped my ass with his "monolithic kernel," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my defenseless body. Michael was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about "all those Censorware freaks out to get him."

How did you finally escape, you ask? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):

You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.

After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.

Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called " Katz juicy-douching" with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. If he's in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag and just squirt it from his ass onto his boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.

As I already said, Mr. Katz is also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

...Are you getting hard writing this?

Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

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READER COMMENTS

1. Fucking hilarious too bad it didnt get a 5:Funny (Score:-1, Offtopic)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.02 19:01 (#2644105)
   
   this is good shit man

2. Re:Taco-snotting@Home! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
   by Dark_Cobra87 on 2001.12.01 23:03 (#2642180)
   
   Oops, forgot to check that Taco-snot option...

3. Re:Fuck Linux! Fuck him hard! (Score:-1)
   by Fecal Troll Matter on 2001.12.01 20:55 (#2641791)
   
   Mmmmmmm, Taco Sauce...
   
   Sig (appended to the end of comments you post, 120 chars)

4. Look (Score:-1)
   by ArchieBunker on 2001.12.01 20:19 (#2641679)
   
   I love trolling but this shit is getting old, fast. At least start mixing them up a little bit. How about the 'How OSM was Freed' series?
   http://www.naawp.org/

5. Re:Congratulations! You have been WIPO'd!! (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.01 8:37 (#2640602)
   
   Stop posting this! I've got hangover and Taco Snotting doesn't make me feel any better.
   
   I'm really glad that Taco Snotting is illegal here in Europe.

6. Re:Snot me baby, one more time! (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.30 1:01 (#2634213)
   
   Get a life you loser! Don't you have anything better to do than insult CmdrTaco and the gay community? We are not perverts, we are human beings just like you. So give it a rest!

7. Re:Hello, perdida!!! Won't you snot my face tonigh (Score:-1)
   by perdida on on 2001.11.27 14:13 (#2618764)
   
   Shut up you asshole.
   
   I am not great, I am merely adequate. I live in adequacy.

8. Go back to Russia. (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.26 22:22 (#2616035)
   
   You weiner trool!

9. Re:The Taco-Snotting FAQ Rides Again!! (Updated so (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.25 9:14 (#2609574)
   
   try to find a pic of actual "taco-snotting"! fucking funny it would be! so go to gay porn sites day in and day out until you find a man giving another man a blowjob that has jizz coming out of his nose and mouth. by the way, keep up the good work

10. Re:Snotting another first!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 12:18 (#2603370)
    
    WIPO, this is getting waaaay old, either drop it or revise it.... there've been no updates for days now...
    
    CmdrTaco

11. Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.22 17:28 (#2600815)
    
    A truly excellent and very humourous troll indeed!
    However...
    
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves.
    
    Black GeStaPo uniforms? The GeStaPo (Geheime Staatspolizei - Secret State Police) wore civilian clothes (although there are reports on them occasionally using Allgemeine SS uniforms in occupied territories).
    
    I seriously doubt that perverted individuals like CmdrTaco et al would have the good taste to ever wear the outstandingly beautiful black Waffen SS uniforms! Please update the FAQ accordingly.
    • Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 4:06 (#2602610)
      
      Actually, it appears you are both wrong!! Ah ha!! I think our boy WIPO was thinking of the Allgemeine SS uniforms. Waffen SS were grey.

12. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:49 (#2594325)
    
    oh yeah, you say you have masturbated only 2 times to this post. well, by the time it takes for me to get through reading it, i usually end up masturbated 5 to 6 times, 10 to 12 if i have the goatse.cx homepage loaded up and am looking at it side by side with the slashdot page. my keyboard, hands, mouse, monitor, the underside of my desk and around the floor under my desk are cum soaked and sticky with the man smell i know and love.

13. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:41 (#2594311)
    
    for version 2 you should make a total re-write of the cod...errr...text and add some details about cmdrtaco and the homo-gang's happenings with their coworkers (osdn?) and all of the gay revelry they enjoy and promote. by the way, did i just see cmdrtaco on television promoting the nax hair removal system? i guess after using vaseline in and around his ass he grew quite a ponytail and it had to be removed somehow...ouch!

14. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by TRoLLaXoR on 2001.11.21 3:59 (#2594191)
    
    WIPO, do you notice how few comments you get for anything you write/post/spam nowadays?
    
    -Trollaxor

15. Jon-Katz docking (Score:-1)
    by sales_worldwide on 2001.11.20 11:53 (#2588488)
    
    You forgot to mention Jon Katz's "docking" games, where he places his chopper head to head with another chap, and rolls the other guys foreskin over his own circumcised end ("docking"), providing him with fantasies of actually having his own forskin ...
    "Making linux GPL was the best thing I ever did" - Torvalds. I'd hate to see the worst thing...

16. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1)
    by Fucky the troll on 2001.11.20 11:28 (#2588446)
    
    Woah! When did the WIPO troll get freed? And how the fuck did I miss it?
    
    Excellent FP, sir.
    
    This is a sig virus. Please put me in your sig

17. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.20 11:04 (#2588407)
    
    omg that is crapflooding material if i ever saw it!!!!!! and u got a first post!!!! whoot to the wipo troll!!!

18. GW, please.... (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 9:03 (#2583756)
    
    GW...you know we love every hair on your 27 acre ass... and I, for one, would never do anything untowards your graceful demeanor. And you probably have several friends that would love to help you do the bear dance all over my face if I so much as spelled your name wrong. And you know I'd defend your Constitutional right to defame God in heaven. I'd even help fund your education, should you ever decide to take that route. Hell, I'd buy you a tall tepid bear-whiz beer if you were here with me, right now!
    
    But. ...if you can't find another topic, I'm gonna step over your dead mother's grave and kick your assuredly anesthetitized butt clear across the playground.
    
    Now go stick your shaved head back down inside the woman's toilet, and just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll jump in the tow-truck and drive right over to help you pull it right out...ok?
    
    thanks

19. Re:Help me Taco-Snotters!! (Score:-1)
    by mark knopfler 69 on 2001.11.19 8:25 (#2583695)
    
    I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU SIR. FOR ONE THING, THE E-MAIL FROM CMDRTACO DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH GRAMMATICAL AND SPELLING MISTAKES. Let's be realistic here, CmdrTaco usually types with one hand, and since he is shaking from jacking off his aim on the keyboard isn't too good. Those e-mails were a little too well written. Sorry boy, you'll have to do better.

20. Re: What the hell is "taco snotting"? (Score:-1)
    by WeatherTroll on 2001.11.19 8:14 (#2583667)
    
    You should update this to say VA Software instead of VA Linux.

21. YOU ARE WINNER (Score:1)
    by smackmonkey on 2001.11.19 7:06 (#2583510)
    
    Crackhead moderators: this is +5, Hilarious material.
    
    --
    CNN declares War on Islam!
    Left-wing America declares War on its Civil Liberties!

22. Re:On Taco-Snotting 1.9 (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 5:40 (#2583336)
    
    This was funny the first 100 times. Now it is getting boring!

23. Digusting and Shameful (Score:-1)
    by egg troll on 2001.11.18 22:27 (#2582054)
    
    Having masturbated *twice* to this post, I'm still incredibly aroused! Come over for a Taco Snot. I'll be wearing my crotchless Clifford the Big Red Dog outfit!!
    
    For more info check out this /. article

24. IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:03 (#2580822)
    
    add more links to goatse and to cowboineal's site to make it better. a link to rotten.com would be nice too
    • Re:IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:18 (#2580832)
      
      and a link to michael's site and to jon katz's site if he has one and homo's site. i dont know what else to say. maybe a few links to phallic.org they have nice penis pictures! a link to the planet quake site or whatever. really make the reader feel this faq really answers their questions. oh yeah, and when you talk about cmdrtaco snotting you, say he brought you to "orgasm after sweaty orgasm". describe it more is all i'm saying. and use more italics and bolding! and when you talk about jon katz shitting or whatever have a link to fecal japan on rotten.com
      
      other wise a great job wipo troll! keep up the good work!

25. Re:CmdrTaco's filthy secret! (Score:-1)
    by Wil Wheaton on 2001.11.18 6:41 (#2580438)
    
    Hi. Let's be buddies.. butt buddies.
    --
    WIL WHEATON DOT NET

26. WIPO speaks the truth (Score:-1)
    by dead_puppy on 2001.11.18 5:33 (#2580342)
    
    Here is an e-mail I received a week ago:
    
    From: malda@slashdot.org
    To: puppy_dead@hotmail.com
    Subject: were where you last friday? :(
    
    I thought we where supposed to meet at Backdoor's at 8-ish, sugar-lips? You could've at least told me that you could'nt make it! I was even in my favorite pink skirt for you, honey-cup... next time, you could be more considarite and tell me you cant come... bastard.
    
    --
    CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org)
    
    You finding Ling-Ling's head?

27. Taco snotting is WRONG!!! (Score:-1)
    by Big_Ass_Spork on 2001.11.18 4:53 (#2580300)
    
    I do it wrong
    
    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.
    
    Massaging my nutsack she....
    
    WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!
    
    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass. [goatse.cx]
    
    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"
    
    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"
    
    I DO IT WRONG!!!!
    
    ---
    All your Sporks are belong to Big_Ass_Spork! What you say?! All your Sporks are belo... forget it...

28. Rob Malda Dead at age 25! (Score:-1)
    by j0nkatz on 2001.11.17 22:54 (#2579596)
    
    I just heard some sad news on the radio -- famous queerbait Rob Malda was found dead in his Holland home this morning. The details were a bit hazy, but it seems that he drowned in jizz while Taco Snotting his friend Hemos. I'm sure everyone in the /. community will miss him -- even if you didn't enjoy his queer antics and boring ass website, there's no denying his contributions to the homosesual cultural development, particularly in the areas of Taco snotting. Truly an American icon.
    
    I wanna Open Source sex so it won't be worth a shit either.

29. TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601)
    
    No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)

30. Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
    by AbsoluteRelativity on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457)
    
    The WIPO Troll
    Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.

31. Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632)
    
    Oh, man that's just sick !

32. HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604)
    
    TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P

33. Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by vikool on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495)
    
    what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured

34. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
    by I.T.R.A.R.K. on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890)
    
    Where the fuck do I sign up?!
    
    - I throw rocks at retarded kids
    
    "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."

35. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753)
    
    this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.

36. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by rockwood on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746)
    
    OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also. The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.

37. Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701)
    
    dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.
    duuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeee.

38. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266)
    
    horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com
    
    Ah, so that's what the alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.horny-rob newsgroup is about!

39. MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
    by egg troll on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024)
    
    +5, Arousing
    
    For more info check out this /. article

40. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891)
    
    WINNER>

41. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887)
    
    I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.

42. Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412)
    
    you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!
    
    WIPO trolls > linux

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Common sense

[Anonymous Coward]

It's common sense for governments to use Open Source, otherwise they are just having to trust the USA, why should they? It would be easy for the US' corrupt government who put Bush in power even though Gore won to bribe Micro$oft. All M$ have to do is not distribute particular modules to the educational source distributions they make. Then again, there was something on /. a while ago about infected compilers making programs which were up to tricks, we would never know without a disassembly and the source code would look perfectly fine. - DDRP

Re:Common sense

[fishebulb]

trusting the US is not the same as trusting Microsoft and viceversa. Microsoft and the US is not one entity (okay sometimes they seem it). The Black Chamber convinced international telecoms/telegraph services to secretly copy certain messages in the early 1900's, could they do the same now? now the NSA/3 letter acronym could just as easily "convince" a company in ANY country to bend over for them now a days, even more so today, "they were a front for terrorism?"

China's "Red Flag"? *chuckle*

[Artifice_Eternity]

I love that they named their version of Linux that...

Other possibilities:

• Russia: Red Square (or Fur Hat)
• France: Red Beret
• Afghanistan: Red Turban

OK, that's enough cheap humor based on national stereotypes for today. :)

Re:China's "Red Flag"? *chuckle*

[havardi]

Russia could be 'Iron Curtain Linux'

heh. now I'm thinking of Red Alert...

Re:China's "Red Flag"? *chuckle*

[Anonymous Coward]

how about: "The Wall"-linux.

Re:China's "Red Flag"? *chuckle*

[ImaLamer]

I love

Plus the obvious "RedFlag, Kills Windows DEAD!"

Re:China's "Red Flag"? *chuckle*

[clark625]

I'm not so sure that the intent was for a national stereotype. I really think that they were taking inspiration from Judy Chicago's 1971 art piece known as "Red Flag". I personally wouldn't go looking there, though. It's not for everyone, that's for sure. Maybe it's best to forget I even mentioned it.

Re:China's "Red Flag"? *chuckle*

[sharkey]

Followed by USA: Red Neck Linux.

I Am Sorry People But

[Anonymous Coward]

This has already been posted here, here, and here. I am starting to get fed up with repeat articles being posted. Please mod up as informative. Thank you.

More Snot from the Taco Man!

[George WIPO Bush]

THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ By The WIPO Troll, $Revision: 1.12 $

Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco, in which he seems to be speaking in some kind of code language?

Whenever Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual orgies with him. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with the letter P in it, you're in trouble.

So this time, he found you. Lucky you.

CmdrTaco's code language is relatively easy to decipher. He prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo to evade the watchful (but relatively stupid) eye of Slashdot's parent corporation, VA Software. CmdrTaco's "Commander" is, of course, his penis -- a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants that only comes out in the presence of other men or at the beck and call of CmdrTaco's own right hand. His "Taco bells" are the shriveled testes that droop beneath his Commander, and his "Taco sauce" is his, well, jizz. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means when he asks you to "ring his Taco bells" or "taste his gourmet Taco sauce."

Lastly, there is a practice he refers to as "Taco-snotting" and the more shocking "circle-snot."

Good Lord. What is "Taco-snotting?"

"Taco-snotting" is the term used by CmdrTaco to refer to the practice of sucking the penis of a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumored to prefer rape), then blowing the semen out his nose onto his partner's (victim's) face and body. A long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTaco's face, dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."

A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel, and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum -- spooging their jizz-snot all over each other's faces and pasty, white bodies, until they're covered head to toe with each other's man juice. This can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.

To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

Hopefully.

You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an Open Source Convention. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some "gourmet Tacos," but when I got there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm... then he snotted my own milky-white jizz back onto my face, into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.

CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) buddies over to continue the twisted snotfest. Linux Torvalds raped my ass with his "monolithic kernel," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my defenseless body. Michael was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about "all those Censorware freaks out to get him."

How did you finally escape, you ask? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):

You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.

After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.

Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called " Katz juicy-douching" with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. If he's in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag and just squirt it from his ass onto his boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.

As I already said, Mr. Katz is also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

...Are you getting hard writing this?

Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

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READER COMMENTS

1. Fucking hilarious too bad it didnt get a 5:Funny (Score:-1, Offtopic)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.02 19:01 (#2644105)
   
   this is good shit man

2. Re:Taco-snotting@Home! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
   by Dark_Cobra87 on 2001.12.01 23:03 (#2642180)
   
   Oops, forgot to check that Taco-snot option...

3. Re:Fuck Linux! Fuck him hard! (Score:-1)
   by Fecal Troll Matter on 2001.12.01 20:55 (#2641791)
   
   Mmmmmmm, Taco Sauce...
   
   Sig (appended to the end of comments you post, 120 chars)

4. Look (Score:-1)
   by ArchieBunker on 2001.12.01 20:19 (#2641679)
   
   I love trolling but this shit is getting old, fast. At least start mixing them up a little bit. How about the 'How OSM was Freed' series?
   http://www.naawp.org/

5. Re:Congratulations! You have been WIPO'd!! (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.01 8:37 (#2640602)
   
   Stop posting this! I've got hangover and Taco Snotting doesn't make me feel any better.
   
   I'm really glad that Taco Snotting is illegal here in Europe.

6. Re:Snot me baby, one more time! (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.30 1:01 (#2634213)
   
   Get a life you loser! Don't you have anything better to do than insult CmdrTaco and the gay community? We are not perverts, we are human beings just like you. So give it a rest!

7. Re:Hello, perdida!!! Won't you snot my face tonigh (Score:-1)
   by perdida on on 2001.11.27 14:13 (#2618764)
   
   Shut up you asshole.
   
   I am not great, I am merely adequate. I live in adequacy.

8. Go back to Russia. (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.26 22:22 (#2616035)
   
   You weiner trool!

9. Re:The Taco-Snotting FAQ Rides Again!! (Updated so (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.25 9:14 (#2609574)
   
   try to find a pic of actual "taco-snotting"! fucking funny it would be! so go to gay porn sites day in and day out until you find a man giving another man a blowjob that has jizz coming out of his nose and mouth. by the way, keep up the good work

10. Re:Snotting another first!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 12:18 (#2603370)
    
    WIPO, this is getting waaaay old, either drop it or revise it.... there've been no updates for days now...
    
    CmdrTaco

11. Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.22 17:28 (#2600815)
    
    A truly excellent and very humourous troll indeed!
    However...
    
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves.
    
    Black GeStaPo uniforms? The GeStaPo (Geheime Staatspolizei - Secret State Police) wore civilian clothes (although there are reports on them occasionally using Allgemeine SS uniforms in occupied territories).
    
    I seriously doubt that perverted individuals like CmdrTaco et al would have the good taste to ever wear the outstandingly beautiful black Waffen SS uniforms! Please update the FAQ accordingly.
    • Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 4:06 (#2602610)
      
      Actually, it appears you are both wrong!! Ah ha!! I think our boy WIPO was thinking of the Allgemeine SS uniforms. Waffen SS were grey.

12. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:49 (#2594325)
    
    oh yeah, you say you have masturbated only 2 times to this post. well, by the time it takes for me to get through reading it, i usually end up masturbated 5 to 6 times, 10 to 12 if i have the goatse.cx homepage loaded up and am looking at it side by side with the slashdot page. my keyboard, hands, mouse, monitor, the underside of my desk and around the floor under my desk are cum soaked and sticky with the man smell i know and love.

13. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:41 (#2594311)
    
    for version 2 you should make a total re-write of the cod...errr...text and add some details about cmdrtaco and the homo-gang's happenings with their coworkers (osdn?) and all of the gay revelry they enjoy and promote. by the way, did i just see cmdrtaco on television promoting the nax hair removal system? i guess after using vaseline in and around his ass he grew quite a ponytail and it had to be removed somehow...ouch!

14. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by TRoLLaXoR on 2001.11.21 3:59 (#2594191)
    
    WIPO, do you notice how few comments you get for anything you write/post/spam nowadays?
    
    -Trollaxor

15. Jon-Katz docking (Score:-1)
    by sales_worldwide on 2001.11.20 11:53 (#2588488)
    
    You forgot to mention Jon Katz's "docking" games, where he places his chopper head to head with another chap, and rolls the other guys foreskin over his own circumcised end ("docking"), providing him with fantasies of actually having his own forskin ...
    "Making linux GPL was the best thing I ever did" - Torvalds. I'd hate to see the worst thing...

16. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1)
    by Fucky the troll on 2001.11.20 11:28 (#2588446)
    
    Woah! When did the WIPO troll get freed? And how the fuck did I miss it?
    
    Excellent FP, sir.
    
    This is a sig virus. Please put me in your sig

17. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.20 11:04 (#2588407)
    
    omg that is crapflooding material if i ever saw it!!!!!! and u got a first post!!!! whoot to the wipo troll!!!

18. GW, please.... (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 9:03 (#2583756)
    
    GW...you know we love every hair on your 27 acre ass... and I, for one, would never do anything untowards your graceful demeanor. And you probably have several friends that would love to help you do the bear dance all over my face if I so much as spelled your name wrong. And you know I'd defend your Constitutional right to defame God in heaven. I'd even help fund your education, should you ever decide to take that route. Hell, I'd buy you a tall tepid bear-whiz beer if you were here with me, right now!
    
    But. ...if you can't find another topic, I'm gonna step over your dead mother's grave and kick your assuredly anesthetitized butt clear across the playground.
    
    Now go stick your shaved head back down inside the woman's toilet, and just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll jump in the tow-truck and drive right over to help you pull it right out...ok?
    
    thanks

19. Re:Help me Taco-Snotters!! (Score:-1)
    by mark knopfler 69 on 2001.11.19 8:25 (#2583695)
    
    I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU SIR. FOR ONE THING, THE E-MAIL FROM CMDRTACO DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH GRAMMATICAL AND SPELLING MISTAKES. Let's be realistic here, CmdrTaco usually types with one hand, and since he is shaking from jacking off his aim on the keyboard isn't too good. Those e-mails were a little too well written. Sorry boy, you'll have to do better.

20. Re: What the hell is "taco snotting"? (Score:-1)
    by WeatherTroll on 2001.11.19 8:14 (#2583667)
    
    You should update this to say VA Software instead of VA Linux.

21. YOU ARE WINNER (Score:1)
    by smackmonkey on 2001.11.19 7:06 (#2583510)
    
    Crackhead moderators: this is +5, Hilarious material.
    
    --
    CNN declares War on Islam!
    Left-wing America declares War on its Civil Liberties!

22. Re:On Taco-Snotting 1.9 (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 5:40 (#2583336)
    
    This was funny the first 100 times. Now it is getting boring!

23. Digusting and Shameful (Score:-1)
    by egg troll on 2001.11.18 22:27 (#2582054)
    
    Having masturbated *twice* to this post, I'm still incredibly aroused! Come over for a Taco Snot. I'll be wearing my crotchless Clifford the Big Red Dog outfit!!
    
    For more info check out this /. article

24. IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:03 (#2580822)
    
    add more links to goatse and to cowboineal's site to make it better. a link to rotten.com would be nice too
    • Re:IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:18 (#2580832)
      
      and a link to michael's site and to jon katz's site if he has one and homo's site. i dont know what else to say. maybe a few links to phallic.org they have nice penis pictures! a link to the planet quake site or whatever. really make the reader feel this faq really answers their questions. oh yeah, and when you talk about cmdrtaco snotting you, say he brought you to "orgasm after sweaty orgasm". describe it more is all i'm saying. and use more italics and bolding! and when you talk about jon katz shitting or whatever have a link to fecal japan on rotten.com
      
      other wise a great job wipo troll! keep up the good work!

25. Re:CmdrTaco's filthy secret! (Score:-1)
    by Wil Wheaton on 2001.11.18 6:41 (#2580438)
    
    Hi. Let's be buddies.. butt buddies.
    --
    WIL WHEATON DOT NET

26. WIPO speaks the truth (Score:-1)
    by dead_puppy on 2001.11.18 5:33 (#2580342)
    
    Here is an e-mail I received a week ago:
    
    From: malda@slashdot.org
    To: puppy_dead@hotmail.com
    Subject: were where you last friday? :(
    
    I thought we where supposed to meet at Backdoor's at 8-ish, sugar-lips? You could've at least told me that you could'nt make it! I was even in my favorite pink skirt for you, honey-cup... next time, you could be more considarite and tell me you cant come... bastard.
    
    --
    CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org)
    
    You finding Ling-Ling's head?

27. Taco snotting is WRONG!!! (Score:-1)
    by Big_Ass_Spork on 2001.11.18 4:53 (#2580300)
    
    I do it wrong
    
    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.
    
    Massaging my nutsack she....
    
    WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!
    
    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass. [goatse.cx]
    
    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"
    
    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"
    
    I DO IT WRONG!!!!
    
    ---
    All your Sporks are belong to Big_Ass_Spork! What you say?! All your Sporks are belo... forget it...

28. Rob Malda Dead at age 25! (Score:-1)
    by j0nkatz on 2001.11.17 22:54 (#2579596)
    
    I just heard some sad news on the radio -- famous queerbait Rob Malda was found dead in his Holland home this morning. The details were a bit hazy, but it seems that he drowned in jizz while Taco Snotting his friend Hemos. I'm sure everyone in the /. community will miss him -- even if you didn't enjoy his queer antics and boring ass website, there's no denying his contributions to the homosesual cultural development, particularly in the areas of Taco snotting. Truly an American icon.
    
    I wanna Open Source sex so it won't be worth a shit either.

29. TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601)
    
    No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)

30. Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
    by AbsoluteRelativity on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457)
    
    The WIPO Troll
    Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.

31. Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632)
    
    Oh, man that's just sick !

32. HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604)
    
    TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P

33. Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by vikool on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495)
    
    what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured

34. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
    by I.T.R.A.R.K. on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890)
    
    Where the fuck do I sign up?!
    
    - I throw rocks at retarded kids
    
    "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."

35. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753)
    
    this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.

36. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by rockwood on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746)
    
    OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also. The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.

37. Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701)
    
    dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.
    duuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeee.

38. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266)
    
    horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com
    
    Ah, so that's what the alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.horny-rob newsgroup is about!

39. MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
    by egg troll on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024)
    
    +5, Arousing
    
    For more info check out this /. article

40. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891)
    
    WINNER>

41. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887)
    
    I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.

42. Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412)
    
    you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!
    
    WIPO trolls > linux

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It's not that hard to believe

[bobdylan]

But it makes sense for governments not to use software developed by US companies. I don't expect all of the customizations made by the Chinese to be released publically, but at least they are using Linux. As the timeline goes to infinity, free OSes, like Linux and BSD must prevail.

Re:It's not that hard to believe

[drsoran]

I don't expect all of the customizations made by the Chinese to be released publically, but at least they are using Linux.

What? So it's alright for an oppressive communist government to take Linux and modify it without releasing the source code and yet if somebody in the US does it then suddenly every geek on slashdot is up in arms demanding the code? Isn't that a bit hypocritical? If China wants to code in human rights violating bits into the kernel then so be it, but the point of free software is that so all of us can share! Don't you think Iraq, Cuba, and John Ashcroft could use those customizations? Quit being so greedy China!

Re:It's not that hard to believe

[bytes256]

But it makes sense for governments not to use software developed by US companies....As the timeline goes to infinity, free OSes, like Linux and BSD must prevail.

Sorry bud...BSD's American grown...well, except for OpenBSD...that's Canadian...granted there are people from all over the world working on BSD, but the seed was planted in America...unlike that other free OS.

Re:It's not that hard to believe

[LRNG_LNX]

True, it makes sense to not use a proprietary OS. The open-source is the key. Each government can check out the security to dispell any "espionage" claims before they begin.

The fact that some are going against the open-source licensing is another issue. That would be an infringement. If they want to add their own back doors, then they are going to have to accept the fact that some hackers may check the source and "find them out." That is their issue.

Re:It's not that hard to believe

[Anonymous Coward]

1. He didn't say it was "alright" for them to do anything. He said what he expected them to do. The distinction is not subtle. I expect them to continue being an oppressive regime, that doesn't mean I approve of it.

2. Under the GPL you are required to make source code available only to anyone that you give binaries to. Assuming they were planning on keeping the binaries to themselves there is no requirement for them to release the source to their changes. This is the same for everyone, oppresive governments included.

To the DOJ, re Microsoft Settlement...

[George WIPO Bush]

To whom it may concern,

Please amend your settlement in the Microsoft case to include provisions against a vile homosexual practice known as "snotting." Snotting is a practice that is very common in the technology sector. The procedure is simple: a man sucks onto the penis of another man and then proceeds to blow the semen out his nose back onto his partner.

I have spent 13 months now as a professional crapflooder at the popular technology website Slashdot.org and I have had the misfortune to see snottings performed by many of the Slashdot editors, most notoriously one Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda. I cannot describe the disgust I experienced when I saw this pudgy, naked geek fill his mouth with another's semen, jerk his head back, and sneeze it onto his partner's face.

If Bill Gates begins to snot his consumers the same way he has screwed them all over for the past two decades, then the terrorists have already won.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
J. Wipo Troll, Esq.
wipotroll@hotmail.com

Wait, I've got one for the Canadians!

[Artifice_Eternity]

...who are always concerned about distinguishing themselves from their more populous, wealthy and powerful neighbors to the south:

• GNA (Gna's Not American)

Yeah, that's pretty weak, I admit.

Re:Wait, I've got one for the Canadians!

[Anonymous Coward]

SubtleNuance will love that one.

-AC

Re:Wait, I've got one for the Canadians!

[spamkabuki]

GNA (Gna's Not American) Yeah, that's pretty weak, I admit.
Yes, it is. Try this.
Canadians: Red Toque.

Bitchslapped?

[havardi]

"Our desire is simply to use software products other than Microsoft's."

Doesn't Bill have feelings too?

Re:Bitchslapped?

[jx100]

I thought Borg didn't have feelings?

Re:Bitchslapped?

[mlk]

I think the Queen does, she does seam a bit pissed when both J.L.P and data say no...

Re:Bitchslapped?

[ScumBiker]

The following is the result of research into various OS and office suites. THIS IS NOT MY OPINION! It's the opinion of a commitee I work with. I deleted the agencies name to protect my ass. This is what we deal with if we want to try and convert the Gov to an OSS solution.

Technical Evaluation of Alternatives for Upgrading and Migrating the 's Desktop Operating System and Office Suite and Network Server Operating System

The Issues: Since the deployment of Windows NT approximately 6 years ago and Office 97 approximately 3 years ago, Microsoft has released two new versions of the desktop operating system and the office suite. It is anticipated that Microsoft will terminate support for our existing environment in the near future. It has also been announced that our desktop hardware vendor will discontinue support for Windows NT on laptops beginning in June of 2002 and for desktops most likely by June of 2002. It is expected that other vendors will follow suit, after Microsoft makes its announcement. Vendor support of our tools is an important part of being able to maintain our environment in its best form. It allows us to resolve issues more quickly, and when there isn't a ready solution, it is a means by which we can get the vendor to assist us in resolving our issues.

We face a similar issue for the current version of our network operating system, which is Windows NT Server. There currently is one newer version of this operating system on the market, which is called Windows 2000 Server and technically there are three flavors of this product. Microsoft has announced that it is currently beta testing another version called Windows .NET Server. We can anticipate similar desupport notices and issues for Windows NT Server in the next six months to one year.

In addition to the normal cycle of product upgrades and desupport notices, we will be faced with making licensing choices in how we choose to license Microsoft products in the future. The focus of this paper is on the technical aspects of these announcements and their impacts. Issues of licensing and funding are items, which are to be explored by , however this team is acutely aware of the current fiscal situation facing this agency and has made recommendations with this situation in mind.

The Scope of This Document: The purpose of this document is to outline the technical criteria on which decisions for migration to a new version of the desktop operating system, desktop office suite, and network operating system can be made. In addition, this document will provide a recommendation on what BEITA believes is/are the best alternative(s) for migration.

The options, which are specifically focused on in this document include:

Migration to Windows 2000 on the Desktop and Laptop
Migration to Windows XP on the Desktop and Laptop
Migration to Office 2000 on the desktop and laptop
Migration to Office XP on the desktop and laptop
Migration to another vendor's operating system on the desktop and laptop
Migration to another vendor's office suite on the desktop and laptop
Migration to Windows 2000 Server as the Network Operating System
Migration to Windows .NET Server as the Network Operating System
Migration to another vendor's Network Operating System
Migration of all or part of our environment to Thin Client environment
Do Nothing

Factors, which must be weighed in making a determination include:

The Business needs of the agency
The cost to develop effective training for staff
The cost in time to actually train both technical staff and users
The cost to replace desktops/laptops/servers that will not function under new product releases
The cost in staff time to perform the physical migration
The cost effectiveness of rebuilding a device versus upgrading the device
The cost to migrate other related software to supported versions
The cost to migrate applications to the new environment
The cost to rebuild applications or purchase new software where existing cannot be migrated
Availability of support for each of the environments impacted by the proposed change
The cost to migrate information
The impacts of phased migrations
Risks of undertaking such a project
Benefits of undertaking such a project
Features gained
Features lost
The risks and cost of failing to act
Time

While all of these factors could not be assessed in the time given to complete this document, the information is an honest assessment of the factors that could be measured at this time.

Evaluating the Options:

Migration to Windows 2000 on the Desktop and Laptop

Windows 2000 is a desktop operating system. We would be replacing the existing Windows NT desktop operating system with this product.

50 - 55% of existing desktops are not capable of running Windows 2000.
Our hardware vendor (Dell) will not guarantee availability of devices able to run Windows NT beyond June 2002.
Industry indicates more cost effective to replace devices than to upgrade existing
standard software should run in this environment, some upgrades and testing should be conducted
Some applications may require modifications
Software/Hardware exceptions run a high risk of failing in this environment, particularly DOS based products.
Exception process warns of possibility and that BEITA is not obligated to make them work.
Training will be required for both technical staff and users.
Images for the new desktop OS would need to be created.
Development and testing for optimal configurations is a requirement.
Windows 2000 has been superseded by the new release of the desktop operating system called Windows XP.
More granular administration would allow for granting of some administrative functions to ITC's. This would require a project to develop a standard list of functions all ITC's would support.
Gartner is projecting support for Windows 2000 on the desktop into 2004. This is not a guarantee as Microsoft can change its support structure at will.
Windows 2000 has been shown to be a more stable operating system than Windows NT.
Windows 2000 will allow us to continue to run the existing office suite.
Windows 2000 provides for improved power management and plug-n-play features for laptop devices. This would allow us to reduce the number images to be supported.
Windows CE 3.5 requires Windows 2000/XP in order to function correctly. Implementation would reduce costs to customers using Windows CE PDAs.
Windows 2000 eliminates 7.8 Gigabyte partition limitation on hard disks which has caused difficulties and additional work related to SMS pushes.
Windows 2000 provides for self healing applications in conjunction with Office 2000.

Migration to Windows XP on the Desktop and Laptop

Windows XP is Microsoft's most current desktop operating system. We would be replacing the existing Windows NT desktop operating system with this product.

50 - 55% of existing desktops are not capable of running Windows 2000.
Our hardware vendor (Dell) will not guarantee availability of devices able to run Windows NT beyond June 2002.
Industry indicates more cost effective to replace devices than to upgrade existing.
Software /Hardware exceptions run a high risk of failing in this environment, particularly DOS based products.
Exception process warns of possibility and that BEITA is not obligated to make it work.
Training will be required for both technical staff and users.
Images for the new desktop OS would need to be created.
Development and testing for optimal configurations is a requirement.
Windows XP is the most current version of Microsoft's desktop operating system. By going directly to it, we reduce costs by avoiding an extra migration.
More granular administration would allow for granting of some administrative functions to ITC's. This would require a project to develop a standard list of functions all ITC's would support.
Gartner currently is projecting support for Windows XP beyond 2004. This is not a guarantee as Microsoft can change its support structure at will.
Windows XP has been shown to be a more stable operating system than Windows NT.
It is uncertain if Windows XP will allow us to continue to run the existing desktop office suite. There are reports of successes and failures on Microsoft Technet.
Windows XP provides for improved power management and plug-n-play features for laptop devices. This would allow the to reduce the number of desktop images that must be maintained.
Windows CE 3.5 requires Windows 2000/XP in order to function correctly. Implementation would reduce costs to customers using Windows CE PDA's.
Windows XP eliminates the 7.8 Gigabyte partition limitation on hard disks which has caused difficulties and additional work related to SMS pushes.
Windows XP provides for self healing applications in conjuntion with Office 2000/XP.
As a brand new release, we would want to wait a period of time for patches before deploying across the agency.
Giga, Gartner and other industry analysts highly recommend the Windows XP product.
According to Giga, Gartner and others Windows XP will lower the cost of supporting the desktop.
Windows XP supports the concept of mobile profiles, making it easier for a user to move from device to device.
Windows XP allows switching of users, even if another user is currently logged on.
Vendors may begin to require this product as the lowest common denominator.
While other vendors have indicated that they intend to support Windows XP, some testing of software and applications will be required, and some additional software upgrades may be required.
We will need to explore security issues with this product.
We will need to examine how product activation impacts development of images. Product Activation is a means of preventing software piracy.
We will need to explore the auto update feature of this product.

Migration to Office 2000 on the Desktop and Laptop

Office 2000 is a desktop office suite comprised of Microsoft Word, Excel and Access. We would be replacing the existing Office 97 office suite with this product.

50 - 55% of existing desktops are not capable of running Office 2000.
Industry indicates more cost effective to replace devices than to upgrade existing.
Most existing software will function with Office 2000. There are some exceptions.
At least one application developed (SWAMP) will need modifications related to the implementation of this product.
Existing Microsoft Access applications may have difficulty migrating due to a new file structure in this version of the product.
Training will need to be provided to both Technical staff and users, to ensure quality installation and the ability to take advantage of new features.
Time will need to be allocated to ensure proper functioning of existing applications.
Time will need to be allocated for development of optimal configuration of product and images.
This version of the product has been superseded by the release of Office XP.
Implementation of this version will result in an extra migration needing to be completed.
There are no current projections for how long this version of the product will be supported.
This product should be reviewed and compared to agency business needs to see if there is value to the agency in adding them.
Basic functionality remains essentially the same and should minimize training in these areas.
Office 2000 allows for output in both HTML and XML formats, as well as traditional formats.
Office 2000 supports the concept of self healing applications.

Migration to Office XP on the Desktop and Laptop

Office XP is a desktop office suite comprised of Microsoft Word, Excel and Access. We would be replacing the existing Office 97 office suite with this product.

50 - 55% of existing desktops are not capable of running Office XP.
Industry indicates more cost effective to replace devices than to upgrade existing.
Most existing software will function with Office XP. There are some exceptions.
At least one application developed (SWAMP) will need modifications related to the implementation of this product and others that integrate with the office suite should be checked.
Existing Microsoft Access applications may have difficulty migrating due to a new file structure in this version of the product.
Training will need to be provided to both Technical staff and users, to ensure quality installation and the ability to take advantage of new features.
Time will need to be allocated to ensure proper functioning of existing applications.
Time will need to be allocated for development of optimal configuration of product and images.
Implementation of this version avoids an extra migration step.
There are no current projections for how long this version of the product will be supported.
This product should be reviewed and compared to agency business needs to see if there is value to the agency in adding them.
Basic functionality remains essentially the same and should minimize training in these areas.
Office XP allows for output in both HTML and XML formats, as well as traditional formats.
Office XP supports the concept of self healing applications.
Office XP provides more extensive collaboration tools.
Office XP provides for strong programmable capabilities that we would need to examine and develop standards for.
Beginning with this version of the product, we will incur annual licensing fees.
We will need to examine how product activation impacts development of images. Product Activation is a means of preventing software piracy.
We will need to explore security issues with this product.
As a brand new release, we would want to wait a period of time for patches before deploying across the agency.

Migration to an Alternate Operating System on the Desktop and Laptop

With the advent of open source software development, have come a number of seemingly low cost alternatives to the Microsoft products which are currently prevalent in Wisconsin State Government. Probably the most well know of these is Linux in its various flavors. Linux is a desktop operating system. There are a number of vendors who produce Linux versions because of the rules related to Open Source software development.

Open source software tends to have fairly low initial software costs.
Product support for our standard software and hardware is uneven. Some vendors support some flavors, others another.
Need to closely examine how viable the vendor of this operating system is.
ESRI does not develop products for Linux and to date will not commit to doing so.
Oracle provides some support for Linux, but it is unclear how well.
A number of applications developed at the will not function in this environment, which would mean redesign and redevelopment in a tool that would function.
We would be forced to migrate to a whole new Office Suite, if we were to adopt this operating system.
We may need to redesign things like letter head and forms to run in a product on this perating system.
We would need to create whole new training programs for staff and require them to take this training, in order for them to attain proficiency in the new operating system.
We would need to allocate time for technical staff to become proficient in managing this operating system.
We would need to take time to determine optimal configurations and develop images for this environment.
We would need to find a replacement for Site Server and a number of our web development tools, which are Microsoft centric at this time.
It is almost a guarantee that most of the Software Exception requests will not function in this environment and most certainly not the DOS applications.
Cost estimates for conversion work, training, deployment and lost hours would most likely be in the Millions of dollars. We would need to balance this against the savings in licensing fees and the long term viability of the vendor.

Migration to an Alternate Office Suite on the Desktop and Laptop

Today there are a number of alternatives to the Microsoft products which are currently prevalent in Wisconsin State Government. In the realm of alternate office suites, we have more choices in general terms, many of them even capable of running in a Microsoft Operating System.

Open source software tends to have fairly low initial software costs.
Need to closely examine how viable the software and the vendor of the product are. For example: Sun produces Star Office. Sun is a very viable company in and of itself, however they earn no revenue on Star Office. If push comes to shove, this most likely would be one of the first things they drop.
A number of our applications are integrated with the Microsoft Office Suite. Moving to Star Office or Word Perfect would require us to redevelop those portions of our applications integrated with the Office Suite.
It is unknown at this time, what support there may be for integrating alternate Office Suites with our existing tools, such as Oracle, PowerBuilder and Visual Interdev.
We would need to examine conversion of existing documents, forms, spread sheets and single user databases from the Microsoft Office Suite to the new Office Suite.
We would need to create whole new training programs for staff and require them to take this training, in order for them to attain proficiency in the new office suite.
We would need to allocate time for technical staff to become proficient in managing this office suite.
We would need to take time to determine optimal configurations and develop images for this environment.
We would need to examine the impacts of making such a decision on our business partners. While selecting WordPerfect would simplify communicating with EPA, selecting Star Office could potentially alienate us from every business partner in terms of our ability to share documents.
Making this change to our desktop office suite will cost large sums of money in converting existing documents and applications, training, and set up. It will require an extended period of time to accomplish. We would need to balance these costs against any potential savings in licensing fees and the long term viability of the vendor.

Migration to Windows 2000 Server as the Network Operating System

Windows 2000 Server is the most current "production" operating system produced by Microsoft. If implemented, it would replace Windows NT Server within the .

Windows 2000 Server is a substantially more stable product than Windows NT Server.
Windows 2000 Server provides all the functionality of Windows NT Server and expands upon it.
Microsoft has announced a new Network Operating System release is currently in beta testing. No release date has been announced.
Moving to Windows 2000 Server will require implementation of Active Directory.
The Enterprise desires to role out Active Directory in a uniform manner throughout state government. This project is not currently funded.
Several agencies are proceeding with implementation of Active Directory in advance of the Enterprise.
Servers should be migrated to Windows 2000 before the desktop Operating System is upgraded to avoid additional stops/modifications to the desktop at a later date.
Four technical staff are already trained in Windows 2000 Server.
Existing servers should only require minimal upgrades in the area of memory in order to be migrated to Windows 2000 Server.
This product allows for improved file and print services as compared to Windows NT.
Our existing (Domain Name Services) translates directly to Windows 2000 Server. In addition, Windows 2000 Server provides more robust support for DNS and DHCP while are integral parts of the 's existing network.
This product continues to support Outlook Web Access and improves the interface for this tool.
This product continues to support both IIS and Site Server which are part of our Internet and Intranet environments.
We know that our side Oracle and ESRI tools will operate within this environment.

Migration to Another Vendor's Network Operating System

There are several other Network Operating Systems that could be chosen, including various Unix and Linux flavors. Each of them carries their own licensing requirements and each would need to be examined against our other existing Network Services for viability. Following is a brief over view.



Migration of All or Part of Our Environment to Thin Client Services

A thin client environment is focused on maintaining less software and data at the client. This reduces the investment required in desktop software. Obviously, we would need to compensate on the server side.



Do Nothing

Chosing to do nothing at this time appears to save the agency money, and it potentially does in the short term. Eventually, due to software or hardware failure we would be forced into doing something. The following points help to evaluate the concerns of doing nothing.



The Hidden Costs of Phased Migrations



Recommendation:

We believe that the first step in migrating our existing Server and Desktop Operating System and Desktop Office Suite is to focus on the environment that we felt most needed to have vendor support available on a continuing basis. As our Network Servers provide connectivity, email and data services to the agency, we felt that they must receive first priority in any upgrade scenario. As such we recommend that first priority be given to migrate all Windows NT Servers to Windows 2000. This will require implementation of Active Directory as well. Most of these servers only need the Windows 2000 server version, although a few would need to be set up for Windows 2000 Advanced Server because of the number of processors they contain. As part of this we are recommending that we select Upgrade Advantage for these servers.

We also recommend that this agency pursue the development of a new PBB for purchase of several devices with Windows XP, set up and testing of applications and standard software in the new Operating System and with the proposed office suite. We believe that it is important that this testing be undertaken yet this fiscal year, if at all possible. This information will serve us well in determining what actual work would need to be completed in order to migrate to this operating system. The information gathered will be valuable in further assessing how we will deal with the impending lack of support for Windows NT on newly purchased desktop and laptop devices. We do not believe there is any gain to implementing Windows 2000, and experts including Giga and Gartner both recommend bypassing 2000 if you have not already begun implementation on the desktop.

Our third recommendation is that a mandatory PBB be created and executed in the new Fiscal Year to Research Windows Terminal Servers, and in particular Citrix. Along with assessing the technical viability of the product within the , this project will develop a detailed cost benefit analysis of Citrix and Windows Terminal Server. The project would need to test existing applications and software. It has been suggested that we may want to require software exceptions be run from a Citrix server as well, to minimize costs to the desktop. It would also have to look at the makeup of staff and their requirements for a desktop. While Citrix would require investment in servers and disk space, we could reduce costs for the desktop in terms of needing less powerful machines and lengthening the life of a device.

Our fourth recommendation is to place a moratorium on purchase of new devices, once our vendor (Dell) can no longer provide devices capable of running NT, until such time as we have completed the work in our second recommendation. We would encourage those who have a need to replace defective equipment look to the devices being surplused by other programs as a means of maintaining basic functionality until such time as the evaluation of the second recommendation and possibly the third recommendation.

Re:Bitchslapped?

[peter]

> [switch to linux] It is almost a guarantee that most of the Software Exception requests will not function in this environment and most certainly not the DOS applications.

Actually, DOS applications are more likely to work properly, since dosemu, which provides a virtual machine which can run MS-DOS, freedos, or whatever, is pretty solid. The x86 architecture can virtualize a 16bit environment, which is how dosemu works. x86 can't virtualize an IA32 env, which is why vmware and plex86, etc are tricky.
I've seen plenty of reports of people moving legacy DOS apps to a linux machine with dosemu, usually with success. It's very likely to work if these are 16bit progs, but a lot of 32bit progs are OK too. Heck, Duke Nukem 3D works fine under dosemu; I've done it myself.
If you have in-house apps, you could try them under wine, the windows emulator. If they don't do anything fancy, you shouldn't have a problem. Last time I checked, wine wasn't up to running MS Excel well, but it could sort of show the spreadsheet... MS probably uses secret functionality that wine doesn't know it should provide. I don't know if typical VB programs that throw up a couple dialogs and show the results tend to run well with wine or not.

Anyway, don't write off letting your in-house stuff become "legacy" apps that use dosemu or wine to run. Set up a linux machine and try some of them, since it will be important to know how well it's going to work.

I like to Snot it, Snot it!

[George WIPO Bush]

THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ By The WIPO Troll, $Revision: 1.12 $

Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco, in which he seems to be speaking in some kind of code language?

Whenever Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual orgies with him. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with the letter P in it, you're in trouble.

So this time, he found you. Lucky you.

CmdrTaco's code language is relatively easy to decipher. He prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo to evade the watchful (but relatively stupid) eye of Slashdot's parent corporation, VA Software. CmdrTaco's "Commander" is, of course, his penis -- a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants that only comes out in the presence of other men or at the beck and call of CmdrTaco's own right hand. His "Taco bells" are the shriveled testes that droop beneath his Commander, and his "Taco sauce" is his, well, jizz. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means when he asks you to "ring his Taco bells" or "taste his gourmet Taco sauce."

Lastly, there is a practice he refers to as "Taco-snotting" and the more shocking "circle-snot."

Good Lord. What is "Taco-snotting?"

"Taco-snotting" is the term used by CmdrTaco to refer to the practice of sucking the penis of a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumored to prefer rape), then blowing the semen out his nose onto his partner's (victim's) face and body. A long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTaco's face, dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."

A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel, and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum -- spooging their jizz-snot all over each other's faces and pasty, white bodies, until they're covered head to toe with each other's man juice. This can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.

To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

Hopefully.

You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an Open Source Convention. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some "gourmet Tacos," but when I got there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm... then he snotted my own milky-white jizz back onto my face, into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.

CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) buddies over to continue the twisted snotfest. Linux Torvalds raped my ass with his "monolithic kernel," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my defenseless body. Michael was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about "all those Censorware freaks out to get him."

How did you finally escape, you ask? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):

You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.

After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.

Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called " Katz juicy-douching" with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. If he's in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag and just squirt it from his ass onto his boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.

As I already said, Mr. Katz is also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

...Are you getting hard writing this?

Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

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READER COMMENTS

1. Fucking hilarious too bad it didnt get a 5:Funny (Score:-1, Offtopic)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.02 19:01 (#2644105)
   
   this is good shit man

2. Re:Taco-snotting@Home! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
   by Dark_Cobra87 on 2001.12.01 23:03 (#2642180)
   
   Oops, forgot to check that Taco-snot option...

3. Re:Fuck Linux! Fuck him hard! (Score:-1)
   by Fecal Troll Matter on 2001.12.01 20:55 (#2641791)
   
   Mmmmmmm, Taco Sauce...
   
   Sig (appended to the end of comments you post, 120 chars)

4. Look (Score:-1)
   by ArchieBunker on 2001.12.01 20:19 (#2641679)
   
   I love trolling but this shit is getting old, fast. At least start mixing them up a little bit. How about the 'How OSM was Freed' series?
   http://www.naawp.org/

5. Re:Congratulations! You have been WIPO'd!! (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.01 8:37 (#2640602)
   
   Stop posting this! I've got hangover and Taco Snotting doesn't make me feel any better.
   
   I'm really glad that Taco Snotting is illegal here in Europe.

6. Re:Snot me baby, one more time! (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.30 1:01 (#2634213)
   
   Get a life you loser! Don't you have anything better to do than insult CmdrTaco and the gay community? We are not perverts, we are human beings just like you. So give it a rest!

7. Re:Hello, perdida!!! Won't you snot my face tonigh (Score:-1)
   by perdida on on 2001.11.27 14:13 (#2618764)
   
   Shut up you asshole.
   
   I am not great, I am merely adequate. I live in adequacy.

8. Go back to Russia. (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.26 22:22 (#2616035)
   
   You weiner trool!

9. Re:The Taco-Snotting FAQ Rides Again!! (Updated so (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.25 9:14 (#2609574)
   
   try to find a pic of actual "taco-snotting"! fucking funny it would be! so go to gay porn sites day in and day out until you find a man giving another man a blowjob that has jizz coming out of his nose and mouth. by the way, keep up the good work

10. Re:Snotting another first!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 12:18 (#2603370)
    
    WIPO, this is getting waaaay old, either drop it or revise it.... there've been no updates for days now...
    
    CmdrTaco

11. Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.22 17:28 (#2600815)
    
    A truly excellent and very humourous troll indeed!
    However...
    
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves.
    
    Black GeStaPo uniforms? The GeStaPo (Geheime Staatspolizei - Secret State Police) wore civilian clothes (although there are reports on them occasionally using Allgemeine SS uniforms in occupied territories).
    
    I seriously doubt that perverted individuals like CmdrTaco et al would have the good taste to ever wear the outstandingly beautiful black Waffen SS uniforms! Please update the FAQ accordingly.
    • Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 4:06 (#2602610)
      
      Actually, it appears you are both wrong!! Ah ha!! I think our boy WIPO was thinking of the Allgemeine SS uniforms. Waffen SS were grey.

12. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:49 (#2594325)
    
    oh yeah, you say you have masturbated only 2 times to this post. well, by the time it takes for me to get through reading it, i usually end up masturbated 5 to 6 times, 10 to 12 if i have the goatse.cx homepage loaded up and am looking at it side by side with the slashdot page. my keyboard, hands, mouse, monitor, the underside of my desk and around the floor under my desk are cum soaked and sticky with the man smell i know and love.

13. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:41 (#2594311)
    
    for version 2 you should make a total re-write of the cod...errr...text and add some details about cmdrtaco and the homo-gang's happenings with their coworkers (osdn?) and all of the gay revelry they enjoy and promote. by the way, did i just see cmdrtaco on television promoting the nax hair removal system? i guess after using vaseline in and around his ass he grew quite a ponytail and it had to be removed somehow...ouch!

14. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
    by TRoLLaXoR on 2001.11.21 3:59 (#2594191)
    
    WIPO, do you notice how few comments you get for anything you write/post/spam nowadays?
    
    -Trollaxor

15. Jon-Katz docking (Score:-1)
    by sales_worldwide on 2001.11.20 11:53 (#2588488)
    
    You forgot to mention Jon Katz's "docking" games, where he places his chopper head to head with another chap, and rolls the other guys foreskin over his own circumcised end ("docking"), providing him with fantasies of actually having his own forskin ...
    "Making linux GPL was the best thing I ever did" - Torvalds. I'd hate to see the worst thing...

16. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1)
    by Fucky the troll on 2001.11.20 11:28 (#2588446)
    
    Woah! When did the WIPO troll get freed? And how the fuck did I miss it?
    
    Excellent FP, sir.
    
    This is a sig virus. Please put me in your sig

17. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.20 11:04 (#2588407)
    
    omg that is crapflooding material if i ever saw it!!!!!! and u got a first post!!!! whoot to the wipo troll!!!

18. GW, please.... (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 9:03 (#2583756)
    
    GW...you know we love every hair on your 27 acre ass... and I, for one, would never do anything untowards your graceful demeanor. And you probably have several friends that would love to help you do the bear dance all over my face if I so much as spelled your name wrong. And you know I'd defend your Constitutional right to defame God in heaven. I'd even help fund your education, should you ever decide to take that route. Hell, I'd buy you a tall tepid bear-whiz beer if you were here with me, right now!
    
    But. ...if you can't find another topic, I'm gonna step over your dead mother's grave and kick your assuredly anesthetitized butt clear across the playground.
    
    Now go stick your shaved head back down inside the woman's toilet, and just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll jump in the tow-truck and drive right over to help you pull it right out...ok?
    
    thanks

19. Re:Help me Taco-Snotters!! (Score:-1)
    by mark knopfler 69 on 2001.11.19 8:25 (#2583695)
    
    I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU SIR. FOR ONE THING, THE E-MAIL FROM CMDRTACO DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH GRAMMATICAL AND SPELLING MISTAKES. Let's be realistic here, CmdrTaco usually types with one hand, and since he is shaking from jacking off his aim on the keyboard isn't too good. Those e-mails were a little too well written. Sorry boy, you'll have to do better.

20. Re: What the hell is "taco snotting"? (Score:-1)
    by WeatherTroll on 2001.11.19 8:14 (#2583667)
    
    You should update this to say VA Software instead of VA Linux.

21. YOU ARE WINNER (Score:1)
    by smackmonkey on 2001.11.19 7:06 (#2583510)
    
    Crackhead moderators: this is +5, Hilarious material.
    
    --
    CNN declares War on Islam!
    Left-wing America declares War on its Civil Liberties!

22. Re:On Taco-Snotting 1.9 (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 5:40 (#2583336)
    
    This was funny the first 100 times. Now it is getting boring!

23. Digusting and Shameful (Score:-1)
    by egg troll on 2001.11.18 22:27 (#2582054)
    
    Having masturbated *twice* to this post, I'm still incredibly aroused! Come over for a Taco Snot. I'll be wearing my crotchless Clifford the Big Red Dog outfit!!
    
    For more info check out this /. article

24. IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:03 (#2580822)
    
    add more links to goatse and to cowboineal's site to make it better. a link to rotten.com would be nice too
    • Re:IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:18 (#2580832)
      
      and a link to michael's site and to jon katz's site if he has one and homo's site. i dont know what else to say. maybe a few links to phallic.org they have nice penis pictures! a link to the planet quake site or whatever. really make the reader feel this faq really answers their questions. oh yeah, and when you talk about cmdrtaco snotting you, say he brought you to "orgasm after sweaty orgasm". describe it more is all i'm saying. and use more italics and bolding! and when you talk about jon katz shitting or whatever have a link to fecal japan on rotten.com
      
      other wise a great job wipo troll! keep up the good work!

25. Re:CmdrTaco's filthy secret! (Score:-1)
    by Wil Wheaton on 2001.11.18 6:41 (#2580438)
    
    Hi. Let's be buddies.. butt buddies.
    --
    WIL WHEATON DOT NET

26. WIPO speaks the truth (Score:-1)
    by dead_puppy on 2001.11.18 5:33 (#2580342)
    
    Here is an e-mail I received a week ago:
    
    From: malda@slashdot.org
    To: puppy_dead@hotmail.com
    Subject: were where you last friday? :(
    
    I thought we where supposed to meet at Backdoor's at 8-ish, sugar-lips? You could've at least told me that you could'nt make it! I was even in my favorite pink skirt for you, honey-cup... next time, you could be more considarite and tell me you cant come... bastard.
    
    --
    CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org)
    
    You finding Ling-Ling's head?

27. Taco snotting is WRONG!!! (Score:-1)
    by Big_Ass_Spork on 2001.11.18 4:53 (#2580300)
    
    I do it wrong
    
    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.
    
    Massaging my nutsack she....
    
    WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!
    
    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass. [goatse.cx]
    
    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"
    
    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"
    
    I DO IT WRONG!!!!
    
    ---
    All your Sporks are belong to Big_Ass_Spork! What you say?! All your Sporks are belo... forget it...

28. Rob Malda Dead at age 25! (Score:-1)
    by j0nkatz on 2001.11.17 22:54 (#2579596)
    
    I just heard some sad news on the radio -- famous queerbait Rob Malda was found dead in his Holland home this morning. The details were a bit hazy, but it seems that he drowned in jizz while Taco Snotting his friend Hemos. I'm sure everyone in the /. community will miss him -- even if you didn't enjoy his queer antics and boring ass website, there's no denying his contributions to the homosesual cultural development, particularly in the areas of Taco snotting. Truly an American icon.
    
    I wanna Open Source sex so it won't be worth a shit either.

29. TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601)
    
    No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)

30. Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
    by AbsoluteRelativity on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457)
    
    The WIPO Troll
    Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.

31. Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632)
    
    Oh, man that's just sick !

32. HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604)
    
    TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P

33. Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by vikool on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495)
    
    what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured

34. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
    by I.T.R.A.R.K. on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890)
    
    Where the fuck do I sign up?!
    
    - I throw rocks at retarded kids
    
    "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."

35. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753)
    
    this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.

36. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by rockwood on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746)
    
    OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also. The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.

37. Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701)
    
    dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.
    duuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeee.

38. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266)
    
    horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com
    
    Ah, so that's what the alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.horny-rob newsgroup is about!

39. MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
    by egg troll on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024)
    
    +5, Arousing
    
    For more info check out this /. article

40. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891)
    
    WINNER>

41. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887)
    
    I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.

42. Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412)
    
    you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!
    
    WIPO trolls > linux

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Someday EVERYONE will have a real operating system

[Futurepower(tm)]

Great story!

Go Linux!

Someday the average computer user will have a real operating system.

Needed for Linux: 1) Easier installation and configuration. 2) Better documentation.

Too bad the US doesn't follow suit....

[FKell]

And the reason why they don't is beyond me. Truthfully, if the reason is to support "our" software industry, its just pathetic. They even charged MS with being a monopoly.

The real problem is that no one in the government knows any better. Why the hell do you think we get all these crap laws like DMCA in the first place? Its cause the very loud kaa-ching sound of coins in big business's pocket drown out the yells of the under-funded consumer group lobiests. And the fact that there is only maybe 10 people in congress who had a person computer before the age of 20.

Re:Too bad the US doesn't follow suit....

[Moridineas]

What a troll! Did you even bother to read the story description, not to mention the story?? Hello, NSA Linux right here!!

Scott

Re:Too bad the US doesn't follow suit....

[NecroPuppy]

Right, but NSA Linux isn't necessarily like the others....

The national versions of Linux may be considered similar to the national airlines, i.e., the flag carriers.

Personally, if I had a available computer to put it on, I'd give the NSA Linux a try.

Re:Too bad the US doesn't follow suit....

[Sanity]

Basically, it all comes down to the fact that those in government gets to spend other people's money, and if, in doing so, they can befriend a powerful corporation (who could fund their next election campaign) then all the better!

Re:Too bad the US doesn't follow suit....

[Yggsson]

While I don't doubt that supporting a US corporation could be a factor, there are also other forces at play. When the U.S. Department of State was planning a world-wide network, the original specs were software independent. However, once those specs were passed to consultants, the MS suite of software was specified. The result is a system that is a nightmare to manage and difficult intergration between Windows NT/2000 systems and existing Unix systems. They have invested millions of dollars in training and supporting this network and it is unlikely that they will change now even though Linux would be a MUCH better solution.

Re:Too bad the US doesn't follow suit....

[Anonymous Coward]

No, the real reason is that even in the US Government there are "positive feedback loops" to purchasing and approving authorities. The US Government is the largest consumer of software in the US. Look at your average off-the-shelf software license next time, and note that they usually have a completely separate sections to deal with use by US Govment and the US DoD.

Re:Too bad the US doesn't follow suit....

[Anonymous Coward]

And the fact that there is only maybe 10 people in congress who had a person computer before the age of 20.

Assuming that this is actually a "fact" as you state it is (though it's obviously just something you made up), and where you wrote "person" you meant "personal", there's a pretty obvious reason for that. The average age of someone in the House of Reps is 52, the average age of a Senator is 55. For the vast majority of them, nothing resembling a personal computer existed before they were 20. Unlike you, they never had a chance to run their first script when they were still wearing their Winnie-the-Pooh jammies.

Also, Congress members specialize in certain topics. Some specialize in agriculture, some in industry, etc. There are doubtlessy a few specialists in computer technology, who lead the decisions the rest of Congress makes. Right now, Congress has to decide whether they should go for `electronic rights' or support big business, which will (hopefully) help the economy and thus the common man. I'm so sorry that music piracy doesn't top their list of concerns.

Re:Too bad the US doesn't follow suit....

[Danse]

I'm so sorry that music piracy doesn't top their list of concerns.

Don't be a jackass. There are serious problems with existing legislation regarding computers. Between 2600, Felton, and Sklyarov, we've got a real mess and some very real threats to our liberties. It hasn't got a damn thing to do with music piracy either.

hmmm

[ArcSecond]

The only question that comes to mind: "Will the U.S. Government now take this as a reason to rally around Microsoft, as a matter of national pride?"

I mean, I'm glad to see the rest of the world smartening up and kicking the MS habit, but unless the U.S. gives up it's vision of a global industry dominated by "their" companies (heh), I don't think they will push alternatives very hard.

Also, how deep are the ties between MS and the present Administration? That will make a big difference in how the Gov't treats MS.

Re:hmmm

[Eslyjah]

Also, how deep are the ties between MS and the present Administration? That will make a big difference in how the Gov't treats MS.

Microsoft doesn't really support either party more than the other. They play both sides, as any politically saavy corporation would do. I worked for a summer in party fundraising and I *believe* (don't hold me to it) that Microsoft's dollars go nearly 50-50 to each party. IIRC, Bill Gates himself is a Democrat.

Re:hmmm

[Anonymous Coward]

they gave slightly more to Gore's campaign than to Bush's, but the difference was trivial out of the roughly 4 million each got.

this info is all available on www.opensecrets.org somewhere...

Pragmatism

[rela]

Nice to see a niche forming up there...

Could a non-Finish European please...

[natslovR]

Could a non-Finish European please confirm or deny that the fact that Linus Torvalds is a native of Finland is a 'rallying point' for Europeans?

"Another rallying point for Europeans is the fact that Linus Torvalds, the programmer known as the father of Linux, is a native of Finland."

That really does sound like a load of rubbish to me!

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Anonymous Coward]

If LISP was so good, then someone would have already created a program to answer this question! DAMN YOU LISP!

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Anonymous Coward]

*posting AC due to the fact that i have been moderating*
I (from .be) would say that that is BS, might be a bit importand in the scandinavian countrys but thats it i think. I could however have alot to do that its not from U.S.A's mega-evil-corp #1. but i could be biasedon that one :)

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[mlk]

a far as I am aware, yes.
But feel free to corect me if I am wrong.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Anonymous Coward]

well you should use prolog.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Anonymous Coward]

True dat...

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Anonymous Coward]

I will confirm as a non-Finnish American that the fact that Linus left Europe and moved to the US is a rallying point for me. And Linux Rox too.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[hughk]

In Germany, forget Linus, it is Suse that matters. They are big enough and successful enough that the government feels that they could do with an extra bit of help. I doubt, for example, that the Bundestag will use RedHat!

Also, slowly, people realise that when you have source, you are not dependent upon that corporation , wherever they are.

Many people are amused by the Finnish link but it doesn't necessarily sell the product as 'european'.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[loopkin]

In France, all the same. Mandrake for most companies and administration (yes, it's French), along with SuSE (especially in eastern parts of France) and RedHat (especially for servers), and PingOO in education.

But still, i think the fact that Linus is Finnish and not American counts a bit... but only a very bit. About the same on that side of the Rhein :-))

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[kzadot]

Yeah for sure, most of us are developing sickening feelings whenever we see how our culture is being overridden by americanization. Not just with computer software, but with music and movies etc too. The backlash against this is slowly building up steam, but a lot of the young'uns still see america as the coolest place in the world. Once they get to high school though, cynicism plays its part, and people start to question americas dominance of everything.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Woolfie]

as a non-finnish German I have to deny it and I guess most Finnish Linux contributors also would. As much as I love the Finnish people for their extraordinarily black humour (finnish movies rule!) and their kindness, I think this argument only reflects the view of a non-European. "National pride" and the Open Source spirit don't fit together. Linux is a truly international endavour and I love this fact. If Linux were a reason for "national pride", it would lose most of it's attractivity for me.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Anonymous Coward]

Exactly, what I like about Linux is that it is not controlled by a single corporation and incorporates code from people all around the world. Note that recently a guy from Swaziland started to produce quite a lot of patches. You can contribute wherever you are, provided you have Internet access (admittedly a problem in the poorest countries, but no more restricted to Europe/North America/Japan).

Plus the fact that with open source, you can really see what's going on. Not like Microsoft which controls everything and soon the right to make what you payed for stop working.

FInally, it is very good in eductaion to promote computer literacy and programming skills. Face it: Microsoft does not want a computer literate use base and fosters computer illiteracy, to get more support calls, which translate directly into more $$$$.

The fact that Linus is Finnish is somewhat irrelevant, many of us also use some BSD variant.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Anonymous Coward]

Linus is Finnish?
Hum I couldn't care less ...

:D

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Jasupehmo]

National bride, bah. Linus is somewhat known in Finland (try naming famous finns, and you get my point) but that doesn't change the fact that finnish goverment still uses M$-products.

There's no national bride there, only things we get our bride from are ice hockey and ... well that's about it.

Micro$oft - simple solutions for simple people

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Richard_at_work]

national bride eh? i think Linus` wife might be able to vouch for the fact that he could only ever be a groom :)

Go on, someone prove me wrong :)

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[hughk]

Is source code availability a major issue though in France?

In Germany, I have worked at a financial institution that had client software installed throughout Germany. You know, big time problems and adverse newspaper coverage when we went down.

Typically we had software that was purchased locally and to a degree even supported. However, the help they got from the US end was extremely variable as on the mother corp's radar, we were invisible. In the end, what seemed to be important was getting the source code where we could influence maintenance.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Anonymous Coward]

Sorry for the anonymous reply... I'm French so yup, European.

I guess it does strike a chord but not for that reason. That Linus or Tanenbaum or any other one man show is from X/Y/Z is just coincidence, but what is interesting about Linux is that the contributors to the kernel and all the other apps are from any place and no one seems to care cause it's natural.

When you think about it, this is the first real non political project that got most people involved regardless of origins. This might even go beyond what the Nobel prices normaly select to reward. Normaly a project which gets 2 or 3 governments involved gets tons of "woooo... haaaaaa!" and lotsa articles about it.

In making public domain software you completely forget about that. Someone ought to try to see who contributed to the whole GNU/Linux based on countries of... WAIT! Actually DON'T I think it's a better idea not to be conscious about it and let it go like that. It's not everyday that mankind forgets to be stupid.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Anonymous Coward]

Is this meant as some subtle satire that I'm just not picking up? If it isn't, it's possibly the most useless comment ever posted on Slashdot, ever. The next time you don't know the answer to a question, assclown, maybe you should just keep your hole shut and let someone who does know answer.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[loopkin]

Well.. i can only partly answer to that.

The initial thread was about government, and i've stopped working for government projects for 2 years. As far as i remember, even by that time, for some ministers, especially defense (well.. the army), source code availability was a major issue. Not only availability, but the right to modify source code. And price as well was an issue, since army is not the richest administration.

Now i'm working for another company that doesn't have the state as customer. We're selling projects based on OSS essentially, and we provide as well support for some OSS we are using (they are US companies doing it as well, but they're simply too far from Europe, especially considering they're mased in CA)

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[fredrik70]

that's a negative, at least for me...
Only good thing would be that we could talk in our mother's tounge with each other (I'm swedish), but since I live in the UK for almost 5 years now and he lives in the us I belive it's a bit of a moot point...

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[fredrik70]

things mix up... law of entropy...
mixed cultures is what we end up with and I can't really say I dislike the idea... bet you US is getting their dose of foreign cultures as well!

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[mbrubeck]

Yeah for sure, most of us are developing sickening feelings whenever we see how our culture is being overridden by americanization. Not just with computer software, but with music and movies etc too.

Well, you know there are only four things America does better than anyone else: Music, movies, microcode, and high-speed pizza delivery.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[Waffle Iron]

I think that you're overstating things a bit. For example, one of America's most important contributions to world heritage is the "value meal". However, we only really added packaging and marketing to this phenomenon. At its core, it still is comprised of two European concepts: the French fry and the Hamburger.

Re:Could a non-Finish European please...

[easter1916]

I'm Irish, not a rallying point for me, really. My sister-in-law is Finnish and she couldn't give a toss either.

goatse alert

[Anonymous Coward]

And what crackhead moderator came up with calling this informative ?
Jezus if you want to moderate atleast check the freaking links

Linux is elite

[Anonymous Coward]

Not only is Linux elite, I think I found some size 6 diapers. Are there any 7 year old girls that wear diapers underneath their dresses?

Re:Linux is elite

[Anonymous Coward]

well, you can find that out.

hide in your local mall's women's restroom and check out all the 7 year old girls.

Amazing

[Anonymous Coward]

A post at +1 completely devoid of any meaningful content. It looks like the terrorists have already won.

Take it from here WIPO.

German Parliament and Linux / Windows...

[Anonymous Coward]

There have been a couple of articles on IX about the German parliament considering a migration from NT4 to either Linux or Windows, the latest news from that battle was that Microsoft promised to make the sourcecode of Windows XP available to the German government for inspection.

One thing that keeps me curious is how they (the closed source evil-doers) could possibly guarantee that the source code they give out to selected people is the code they build the actual system from, I mean do they actually say "build your own windows"? ...

Re:German Parliament and Linux / Windows...

[hughk]

I was at a presentation at Linuxworld in Frankfurt where the politician responsible for this states (I believe he also chqairs the committee for new media) that MS had offered to make the source code of Win2K (not XP) available to representatives of the Bundestag to inspect. Please note that a knowledge of C or C++ is not normally amongst the qualifications needed to be an elected federal representative.

This guy knew enough to say that he hadn't the expertise, but he would like to accept their offer and bring some experts from the from the Bundesamt fuer Sicherheit in Informationstechnik and, of course, the Chaos Computer Club. Microsoft Germany did not respond after that.

To be honest, it could have been a good advertisement for MS if these guys had passed Win2K, but oh well, obviously they had their doubts.

Re:German Parliament and Linux / Windows...

[ImaLamer]

I do know they blocked disk keeper because it is supposedly backed by scientology.

Makes sense... i guess.

Trust me, I'm American.

[Boiling_point_]

<conspiracy theory>

With M$ in bed with US politics, what other national government would trust the US not to embed espionageware in their OSes?

</conspiracy theory>

Re:Trust me, I'm American.

[natslovR]

OMG your sig is real.. shame Microsoft, shame. What a perfect example of why a country would want to move to a more secure OS.

Re:Trust me, I'm American.

[Boiling_point_]

natslovR from QGL?

Re:Trust me, I'm American.

[natslovR]

Yeah, it's me.

While the gov'ts choose Linux...

[Anonymous Coward]

Microsoft is choosing our governments.

MS bought the US Presidential election and picked the Attorney General (Mr. aShcroFT) that it could not only stop the DOJ from breaking it up but extend its monopoly for generations to come (via education).

More than Re:national pride?

[Anonymous Coward]

Those Linux distros are developed by local businesses, meaning they employ citizens. Makes sense for a government to support its own working men and women.

First rock wife post!

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey, Ozz man. I heard Sharon's a really good lay now that she lost all that weight. Is it true? If yes, can I see for myself? If yes, will you provide the alcohol?

Re:First rock wife post!

[Ozzy Osbourne]

uh uh uh uh uh uh uh I ra ra ra ra ra really don't uh uh uh enjoy this fucking discussion, man. ii i ii i i iii it's like eeveryone's so fucking delusional i can't keep my fucking head clear. i i i ii i i it's like that time I tried to kill, uh uh uh buh ba ba whatshername uh uh Sharon.. mu ma wife.

NSA's SE Linux

[ender81b]

Has anybody actually had expierence using this? I am curious if this is worth paying any attention to as I am setting up a secure linux box for online transactions and want the most secure version of linux possible.

Re:NSA's SE Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

I've been using it for a few months on my server (vorpal.mcs.drexel.edu) and I find it to be very stable. Configuration is not a trivial task, but is doable with some auxiliary software I developed. Basically, you run the system in the (default) permissive mode and get thousands of "access denied" messages (in permissive mode, the system just prints the messages and allows access). Then you run a perl script to generate a new security policy that allows all the things that were denied and reload the security policy (something that can be done on a running system). Then you really turn on the security system and occasionally tweak the security policy to deal with situations that arise.

Re:NSA's SE Linux

[guinnessnwhiskey]

Has anybody actually had expierence using this?
Not yet, but according to this Debian Packages are under way.
When they hit Unstable i'll give them a try.

Invest in America...

[Anonymous Coward]

...Buy a congressman today!

Re:Someday EVERYONE will have a real operating sys

[DavidJA]

Needed for Linux: 1) Easier installation and configuration. 2) Better documentation

3. Nice deployment tools, like Microsoft's Remote Installation Services, where a brand new computer with a bootable network card (or boot disk) can be booted up, press F12 and an entire pre-configured workstation image is downloaded and installed on the workstation. Complete with Office, etc, etc. Workstation hardware independent as well. (the image can be for a SMP machine and the workstation a non SMP machine).

Or group policy with inteliMirror, where workstations upon bootup can download and apply the latest office service pack (bug fixes, whatever) from a centeral server.

We are deploying this technology at the moment and it is VERY cool.

Finish?

[sopuli]

I suppose you mean Finnish.

Re:Finish?

[Anonymous Coward]

Far fewer Americans are brain-injured than you think. It's screwball (i.e., crazy) methods of teaching reading that make them seem that way. In this case, evident inability to see and remember that references to Finland have two n's: "Finnish".
// Enby in Waltham

only evil hackers use lunix

[Anonymous Coward]

I read this in my computer magazine, PC Computing, that many kids use Lunix to hack. You can tell if you have Lunix on your system if a program named LILLY runs when you begin your system. If your kid is a hacker, please make him wear diapers and watch the princess diaries and masturbate.

Removal of 100-Watt Electric Bulb from Rectum

[Anonymous Coward]

To the Editor:

In all societies, individuals have introduced foreign bodies into the rectum, penis, and vagina, sometimes for sexual gratification and sometimes for unusual psychological reasons. The literature contains many reports of such instances, particularly with respect to foreign bodies in the rectum. Objects reported include stones, coke bottles, plastic vibrators, pencils, sticks, a baseball, knives, screwdrivers, the U-bend of a sink, a sponge rubber ball, glass tumblers, a pickle bottle, and a beer glass. This case report adds to the list a 100-watt electric bulb, an object not previously reported, and describes the technique used for the successful removal of this fragile object. A 54-year-old man presented with the complaint that two days earlier he had drunk whiskey and "did something" to his rectum. He was obviously embarrassed and reluctant to explain his problem. Rectal examination revealed a hard, smooth, globular mass. The results of the rest of the physical examination were within normal limits. When asked specifically, the patient admitted that an electric bulb had been in his rectum for two days. He said he had gotten drunk, accepted a wager of $100 and, using shaving cream as a lubricant, had inserted a 100-watt electric bulb into his rectum. The next day, sober, he realized that he had done a "stupid" thing but believed that the bulb would come out unassisted. After two days he became aware of difficulty defacating, and when he began to experience difficulty urinating, he became frightened and sought medical help. AP and lateral films of the pelvis verified the location of the electric bulb in the rectum, and the patient was taken to the operating room. He was placed in a face-down position with his hips elevated. The buttocks were separated and held apart by a circular metal ring. With the aid of malleable retractors in the rectum, the electric bulb was visualized, but it was not possible to get a gloved finger over the maximum diameter of the bulb. Toy darts with suction cup ends were used to draw the electric bulb to the sphincter. After drying the glass surface of the bulb with ethyl ether swabs, we attempted to attach the suction cup end of the dart to the eletric bulb with cyanoacrylate cement. Four attempts of this maneuver were unsuccessful: the cement would not stick. The patient was then turned to the lithotomy position and another dart was successfully attached to the bulb without any glue, and the bulb was pulled to the sphincter. Three #24 Foley catheters with 30-cc terminal balloons were lubricated with mineral oil and passed over the maximum diameter of the bulb. The catheters were placed at the six, ten and two o'clock positions. Throughout this procedure, a steady pull was maintained on the attached dart. After it was verified by digital examination that the tips and balloons of the catheters were beyond the maximum diameter of the bulb, the balloons were inflated with 30 cc of water, and about 30 cc of mineral oil was injected into the rectum through a Foley catheter. A steady pull of about five pounds was applied to each catheter, and after about ten minutes the sphincter began to dilate and the bulb began to emerge. The electric bulb finally came out through the external sphincter with no further complications. Sigmoidoscopic examination showed no bleeding or other injury to the rectal mucosa. After 24 hours of observation, the patient returned home. The literature describes various methods that have been employed to retrieve foreign bodies from the rectum. Because this electric bulb was a large object (maximum diameter, 61 mm; length from metal end to top, 114 mm) made of fragile glass, special consideration had to be taken to avoid breakage that would have resulted in lacerations to the rectum and adjacent structures, with consequent complications. Ideally, the bulb should be removed intact from the rectum through the anus. If this is not possible, the abdomen must be opened and the bulb gently squeezed through the rectum and the anus, with great care taken to avoid injuring the rectum. Should this method be unsuccessful, the sigmoid colon must be opened and the bulb removed through the abdominal incision; however, opening the sigmoid colon is a very lenghy procedure with severe morbidity and a prolonged recovery period,, and this maneuver should be reserved as an extraordinary measure.

Vaman S. Diwan, MD, MS

Meaningful content: Encouragement, happiness

[Futurepower(tm)]

Encouragement and expression of happiness is meaningful content. The fast growth of Linux is a wonderful, wonderful thing. Shouts of joy are meaningful.

It is a stretch to say this has any connection with terrorism.

Re:Meaningful content: Encouragement, happiness

[Anonymous Coward]

Shut your hole, terrorist. America is coming after you next.

Re:Meaningful content: Encouragement, happiness

[pivo]

It is a stretch to say this has any connection with terrorism.

A stretch ? I find it disturbing that you can imagine some kind of connection between terrorism and meaningless content on the web. The initial post was funny because the association was absurd (oh great, now I'm explaining why someone else's post was funny) your post is just plain scarry.

Re:Meaningful content: Encouragement, happiness

[flikx]

Replace Linux with OpenBSD in that statement and I would agree with that.

Hmm

[Anonymous Coward]

Informative Posts so far: 0
Go Linux Posts: 5
Troll Count: 20

What's wrong with this picture?

Re:Hmm

[Anonymous Coward]

I know what you mean. They're not even new trolls (mostly). Unless the quality of trolls improves drastically, I'm going to go back to reading at +1. There seem to be about 5 copies of the Taco-snotting message in here and that was only slightly funny the first time.

Re:Hmm

[Anonymous Coward]

Troll count is far too low.

Red Flag Linux

[nsample]

You can get ahold of Red Flag Linux, no problemo. You should be able to read chinese, however.

http://www.redflag-linux.com/

Re:Red Flag Linux

[Wizard of OS]

The english version is here

Some quotes from the page:

• "Redflag Joins Hands with EdgeMatrix of Singapore to Tap China?s Multimedia Communication Market", nice to know that the linux distro taps communication.
• ControLinux finds application in lottery machine?s operating system, yeah, it must be coincidence that the name is 'Control-inux'

Re:Red Flag Linux

[nsample]

If you're having trouble forcing the Babelfish to catch the pop-up window, you're missing a real classic! For some reason, the Babelfish doesn't parse and catch the popup.

It's cached here: translation

It starts with

Respect husband / woman:

Hello!

If only it ended with "all your base are belong to us". =)

Re:Red Flag Linux

[afxgrin]

17:10 - 17:30 Luckily pulls out the prize (opportunity is rare, do not have to miss yo!)

HAHA .. do not have to miss 'yo!'.

Re:Red Flag Linux

[jsse]

Also:

17: 10-17: 30 Luckily pulls out the prize (opportunity is rare, do not have to miss yo!)

Yes, they meant 'Lucky draw', otherwise it'd be quite an amazing way to end a party.

Re:Red Flag Linux

[Gorak]

Note that the contact person is called "Yellow Is Luxuriant".

Now, *that's* a name!

Tard family fun

[Anonymous Coward]

Got a referral to evaluate a tard for institutionalization the other day.
The family scenario was just lovely. The person being referred was a tard,
but could talk and wipe his own ass. Living with him at home was his mother
and "uncle". Mom was also a tard, but couldn't speak much and obviously
could not wipe her own ass. The uncle was an alleged family member who had
been taking care of the two for about 20 years.

It was obvious that uncle was getting some benefit from this, as the
son-tard kept referring to how much his uncle charged for fixing meals,
cleaning the house, buying groceries, etc. Whenever such statements were
made, the uncle would just go "Ssshh" and then shake his head and say, "The
boy jus' ain' in his right min'."

Anyway, we had gone through the IQ evaluations and were discussion behavior
problems. Uncle had indicated that son-tard could get hostile and
aggressive, particularly towards mom-tard. This went on for a few minutes,
and then I asked if there was anything else. The uncle replied, "Oh yeah,
the boy fucks his momma." The uncle described that, whenever son-tard got
the chance, it was time to have a go at momma. It was clear that uncle knew
a lot about the situation, as he described basic fucking, as well as anal
and oral. When asked if he did anything about this, he replied, "Well, his
momma don' seem ta min' an' I gotta go to work." All of this was discussed
by uncle in a "hurry up I want to go home and drink" tone of voice.

Sux0rZ!

[the_furies]

Everyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knows that Linux is just as prone to exploits as M$ft Windows, if not more so. It's just that script kiddies haven't been devoting as much attention to cracking the boxen. If Linux proliferates more, and especially as Linux gets used in high-security government purposes, the "A Patchy" servers will really start earning their names, as sysadmins start putting in serious overtime trying to keep up with the bombardment of worms, virii, Ddos attax, etc...

The irony kills me....

[DCowern]

A nation hell bent on suppressing free speech (China) embracing an operating system thats underlying belief structure is pure free speech. What next? Microsoft using the BSD TCP/IP stack? Oh... wait... ;-)

Re:The irony kills me....

[Anonymous Coward]

Muahahaha =)

Does this propose a deeper philosophical point that technology has it's own ethos and structure different from that of the people participating?

Re:The irony kills me....

[WildBeast]

It's Open Source so they can modify it to fit their politics :)

Re:The irony kills me....

[gmack]

Actually MicroSoft is quite open about their love for the BSD licence. It's the GPL they hate.

Re:The irony kills me....

[Anonymous Coward]

you think the gooks are really gonna abide by the GPL? Like who's gonna sue them--in China--if they don't?

Seduction to Destruction: The Homosexual Agenda

[Anonymous Coward]

Homosexual activists have set a well planned and well financed agenda that started in the 1960s and now includes not only tolerance of their lethal lifestyle but acceptance with privileges as a special class, as a minority group. The key target is our youth. This can be seen in the following written by "gay revolutionary" Mark Swift and printed in the February 15, 1987 issue of Gay Community News. These excerpts are reprinted from the Congressional Record:

"We shall sodomize your sons, We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your youth groups, Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will come to crave and adore us. All laws banning homosexual activity will be revoked. Instead, legislation shall be passed which engenders love between men. Our writers and artists will make love between men fashionable.... We shall raise vast, private armies...to defeat you. The family unit....will be abolished. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory....All churches who condemn us will be closed. Our only gods are handsome young men. All males who insist on remaining stupidly heterosexual will be tried in homosexual courts of justice and will become invisible men. Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks."

IT'S TIME FOR TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!

Competative Advantage

[darkov]

It's good to see people are finally realising that in using Microsoft products they are losing comptetive advatage. They're exposing themselves to the mediocrity of MS and all the dangers it entails. Improved security in Linux is just one example. As the net and IT infrastructure becomes increasingly improtant into the future, companies will realise the folly of blindly following Microsofts lead.

Re:Competative Advantage

[CaptainZapp]

I opened a business, a couple years ago. It's a modest consultancy, specialising on big, complex data management architectures.

When evaluating the IT infrastructure, I almost fell into the Ye know, my customers use NT and we'll have to interchange documents trap.

For one reason or another a properly licensed OEM copy failed to install on my box (which only was Win98 taxed, so I had to buy NT in addition).

To make a long story short: I was rather pissed, went to a bookstore, obtained a copy of SuSE-Linux and installed away (I planned Linux as a second partition anyway).

Was it painless ? Hell, no! Wasting a day, trying to configure a modem which turns out to be defective is not much fun. The learning curve is partially steep (and that's not an install matter) and surprises clutter your path. But

It was the best business decision that I made. Not only do I have three industry strength databases running on essentially on a PC reliaby, but I very rarely have IT problems and if I do, they can usually be solved.

Yep, definitely a competitive advantage. And this is not a price issue.

Re:Competative Advantage

[Anonymous Coward]

While I think there is much truth to what you say, there is a greater advantage that Linux gives other nation's government: no vendor lock in. Anyone, a person, a businiess, or a government, if they use MS software, must upgrade on a schedule decided upon by MS, or else they risk losing important functionality.

Linux allows organizations to upgrade when it is to their advantage to do so, including the option to not upgrade at all.

Linux is a crummy OS.

[LinuxisforLosers]

Well, I can safely say that I am not one of the Microsoft hating Linux zealots. Personally, I think Linux is a sad excuse of an operating system. True, it provides a vital hardware abstraction layer to allow for interaction with the system's components, but it is seriously lacking in ease of use. Windows is a far superior operating system to Linux in almost all fronts. Take the following comparison, if you will:
1) Drop the CD in and type 'setup' and Windows installs itself, whereas you need a manual to tell you what should be installed for Linux.

2) Hmm, all the best games and software are written for Windows, whereas Linux scrapes all of the leftovers and second class software from the people who don't get paid very well for their work.

3) If you have a problem with your computer, you can always call the company who put it together for you, whereas with Linux you have to work your problem around the schedule of some pasty unshaven lout who is wired to explode after drinking one too many Red Bull energy drinks.

4) So what if Linux is cheaper? You get what you pay for, people. Why buy a used car and worry about getting the thing running (a problem with Linux) when you can buy a new car and not have to worry?

5) Does your computer crash when you install Windows on it? Maybe that's because you built the thing from the guts of obsolete machines. Also, if you want to buy your parts off of pricewatch.com, expect to get parts that don't work properly. Does this mean that Linux is better because it has a higher compatibility with different components? NO. It means that Windows has higher standards.

6) Windows users, on average, copulate far more than Linux users. Windows users also don't smell like cheddar cheese.

7) My mother knows how to use Windows. Does your mother know how to use Linux?

8) Nobody has -EVER- been able to hack my machine or install any virus simply because I turn off Active Scripting. You take scripting away, and suddenly my Windows machine is more secure than your bodged up Linux b0xen.

9) Programs written for Windows work in Windows, whereas you have to know the program inside and out to get the thing to compile in *nix.

10) Don't like the way something is running in Windows? Change it with the click of a button. Don't like the way something is running in Linux? Recompile the god damned kernel and pray the thing doesn't hex dump over your Sarah Michelle Gellar .jpgs.

Sound about right to you? Well, I thought so.
By the way, 'No Money' sounds more appropriate than 'National Pride' as a reason for using Linux.

Sincerely,
Linuxisforlosers
spankmehoff@hotmail.com (Yes, that is my real e-mail address!)

Re:Someday EVERYONE will have a real operating sys

[Anonymous Coward]

boot - net install

been doing it for years. sorry, yet another pathetic attempt at catch-up for m$

Money Matters

[villoks]

Well,

In Finland the goverment and some of the biggest cities like Turku are currently spending quite serious money to find out if Linux / Open Office would offer a more sensible option than the MS-products. The reason -money. The new MS-lisence scheme has really irritated the local decicion makers. It's not easy to find 30-50% more money for software licenses at the same time as unempleyment rates have started to raise again...

The added security of OSS-products is of course nice benefit, but it's not the main factor.

v.

Re:Money Matters

[WildBeast]

Money, hey? I thought that Open Source didn't necesserily mean free. It sure doesn't but hey 99% of Open Source products are free.

We're all free to code and soon enough we'll all be coding for free. Viva la révolution

One telling statistic...

[StarTux]

"Microsoft Web server software powers about 30 percent of the world's Web sites -- and 62 percent of the sites that have been hacked, according to data collected by two Internet sites, Netcraft's Web Server Survey and the Alldas Defacement Archive."

Re:Troll Tuesday

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, it's that time again!

Got Frost Pist?

Duh.

[Dog and Pony]

What is more likely: That an US based, closed-source, capitalist company would build in secret backdoors, hidden features, security flaws (intentional or not) spyware, and you name it, or that an international, open source, freedom loving community would?

Oh, wait. The open source part kinda makes this not a question at all.

Bottom line #1 is that noone has any reason to trust Microsoft, matter of factly there are still some unidentified programs shipping with MSN among other things, that are frequently talking ot Redmond without any given reason. Think it was named "Q-Something". I don't use MSN, so I'll have to look it up. Word on the street is that it sends continous screendumps? Well, it matters not. The point is that it very well could, and since MS isn't telling us, we don't know. All we know is that it apparently slows modem traffic down to almost a halt...

Bottom line #2 is that MS is insecure, partly because they focus on other things (like sales), and partly because it is a popular platform to attack.

Bottom line #3 is that it is a US based company, with all what that means. It could mean both that they get money from the US gov or military to build in certain features, or that they are forced to do so. Remember encryption export restrictions? The debate about mandatory PGP backdoors? Yes, that is right. The same people. Huge cudos to NSA for their open source, GPL/BSD licensed enhancements to Linux though. I am not capable to determine the value of those patches, but it seems a good initiative in any case.

I could go on. I choose not to. :) I think my point is clear, whether you agree or not.

Re:Duh.

[fishebulb]

i dont disagree, except that the US can convince a company in a different country just as easily as a US based one. The NSA has always kept quiet about crypto exports. The FBI is constantly bitching about it. My guess is that the NSA has the tech to break, but the majority of peopl'e encrypted messages are not of concern.

Also opensource doesnt prevent someone from putting a back door in, example: A company puts a back door into its XYZ program, sells it to china. china wants the source code. the company sends them the none backdoored code

Re:Duh.

[Anonymous Coward]

i dont disagree, except that the US can convince a company in a different country just as easily as a US based one.

It's true that they can convince companies based in other countries. It isn't true that it's as easy; they have less levers to apply.

The NSA has always kept quiet about crypto exports. The FBI is constantly bitching about it. My guess is that the NSA has the tech to break, but the majority of peopl'e encrypted messages are not of concern.

I think that's simplistic. The question on allowing crypto exports isn't "can we break the systems in use today?" it's "can we guarantee that we'll always be able to break any system that comes along?" If you feel a need to be able to crack encryption then you'll always feel a need to restrict it for fear that the next system might be beyond you even if the current one isn't. If the NSA doesn't want to restrict crypto it isn't based on their ability to break today's systems. They either feel that banning it encourages its use and causes more problems than its worth or just don't feel that security is more important than their ability to bypass security.

Also opensource doesnt prevent someone from putting a back door in, example: A company puts a back door into its XYZ program, sells it to china. china wants the source code. the company sends them the none backdoored code

Right, so we're supposed to assume that the Chinese government is incapable of compiling the code to see?

Re:Duh.

[Dog and Pony]

china wants the source code. the company sends them the none backdoored code

China compiles without the backdoor. Backdoor gone.

woah

[Anonymous Coward]

look at the goverments that are adopting Linux
Germany is trying to block porn sites depending on the time of the day
france does the same for nazi items
and china... ::cough::

yay for having linux ascosiated with non freedom of speech supporting countries!

ps. excuse my english ;-(

Re:woah

[Anonymous Coward]

> Germany is trying to block porn sites depending on the time of the day
...
> ps. excuse my english ;-(

Is your english the reason you are so badly missinformed?

My company is switching Wentzville, MO schools

[Mustang Matt]

It's not just the Government, schools are switching as well!

We just finished switching servers to (SuSE 7.3) linux (vs Novell) for Wentzville, Missouri school district. (wentzville.k12.mo.us) The workstation machines might be next!

Not because anyone hates Microsoft or Novell, just because it was going to cost them a minimum of $13,000 a year for Novell licenses and who knows how much for Microsoft licenses.

They simply can't afford it and don't want to resort to piracy as so many other schools and companies have.

On top of that their getting a lot of added functionality they didn't have previously such as in house email, dns and web hosting.

We also got them setup with NAT, DHCP, and a firewall. None of which they had previously!

They are very excited to see it up and running so quickly. We're going to train them with what they need to know and they've got other training in their future budget plan.

NSA Linux

[Arcanix]

It seems to me like the source code of NSA Linux would pass a security inspection but if the NSA uses it's normal tactics it wouldn't suprise me if the binaries, that the majority of users download, would have a backdoor...

good news, but don't cheer to early !

[gismo]

european govs _talk_ about using linux - but they talk for a couple of years now.
The german "bundestag" diskusses about switching from NT to linux - but the same time windows-based e-gov solutions are presented.
( Windows 2000 for virtual city-halls (e))
Meanwhile MS announces to show theire sources to european govs (XP-source for gov of austria (e))....
i hope, linux will make it into our govs - but i do not really believe into it.

re china: they are not realy "anti-MS" anymore - their mayor ISPs switched to MS - most of them predicted to sitch to linux half a year ago ( breakthroug for MS in china (e))

sorry for all the links to german heise news - i read things like this on other (austrian/german) news-services, but heise has the better search-engine ;-)

Re:good news, but don't cheer to early !

[Master Of Ninja]

Got to agree with you. The NHS (National Health Service) in the UK just linked up with Microsoft to use their software on all their computers. This includes office as well. The article is from BBC News.

The NHS is one of the biggest (if not the biggest) employers in the UK so a deal like this means a massive increase in income for MS - £5 billion according to the article (with discount!).

As the article says medical records need confidentiality and having MS "own" the system required to read it is potentially disasterous. The other computer projects that the NHS has undertaken have not been too great of a success e.g. the "NHSnet" (an internal network) which was buggy and used old protocols instead of using newer email protocols (i.e. they didn't use POP3).

I think that MS one this contract cause they are in bed with president tony (blair). I can't see how it is good for the health service if every machine is ms-dependent. They really should have tried splitting the system between different contractors (ms could still be involved) so that there is redundancy in the system. The thing is everybody attack IIS systems, and for some reason I think it will be a major hassle trying to locate and patch every single server the NHS has.

more links
500,000 winxp licenses for Uk.gov
NHS email system not working
Gates talks to NHS managers about using ms products
Doctors forced to use Hotmail for confidential medical records

Re:good news, but don't cheer to early !

[Quazion]

>>Meanwhile MS announces to show theire sources to european govs (XP-source for gov of austria

I wonder if they can compile it them selves, cause i wouldn't know if they are showing me all the sources, cause i dont know how many of you have browsed tru the sources of a major project like a complete OS, thats gonna be HELL....and finding spyware things or others is going to be HELL...now if you cant be sure if you have everything and cant compile it your self whats the deal ?
( anyone who can read german found something like that in the article ? )

But nevertheless who knows if they didnt just remove the parts they didnt want you to see, your happy running MS's owned compiled versions of XP which have spyware and or other strange things in it, while you have a source code, i guess since windows XP they got smart and implented the spyware stuff seperate easy to remove from the source package, so we can show it to someone, i wouldnt trust them if you cant compile and run your own version after you audited ofcourse :)

Just another paranoid rant..
But just showing sources means shit in my perspective.

Quazion.

Re:good news, but don't cheer to early !

[gismo]

i do have the sources of a entire OS on my HD and can compile it myselve ;-) (at least i could if i realy, realy wanted)

But i agree with you, that no-one (MS included i suppose ! ;-) ) can read the XP-Source and find anything. But i don't think this is the point - MS offers the sources (to a very limited set of persons) to blur the differences between opensource-software and Windows (and stuff) in the mind of most persons. this makes it harder to argue for linux.

i fear they will succeed with this strategy like they always did - MS-Marketing always has been better then MS-Software... :-(

Re:good news, but don't cheer to early !

[gmkeegan]

Actually, the 5 billion is a global modernisation fund, of which 100 million is to be spent on this project this year. It doesn't say how much of that is going to MS, but I would bet that most of it is going to staff (converting existing data, writing new API's and or middleware interfaces, etc...)

Indeed ...

[Aceticon]

Reading the article made me feel warm all over ...

Oh ... wait ...

... that explains it - i've spilled cofee on my shirt

I agree NSA Linux...but we are not using it!!!!!

[FKell]

See this is my WHOLE POINT! We are not using it across most of our systems. They still have MS software, even though they PAID the development costs of NSA Linux!!!!!

lol

[Anonymous Coward]

linux aint secure.....run a bsd!

Ummm....Maybe because it is 4 am?

[Anonymous Coward]

nuff said

Re:Ummm....Maybe because it is 4 am?

[hatchet]

Ummm....Maybe because it is 4 am? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on 10:53 11 December 2001

Think global, act local. (americans got that another way around all the time)

and the other way round ...

[belbo]

Don't want to dip my fly in everybody else's ointment, but royal.gov.uk recently switched from Linux to Windows 2000.

b.

Re:and the other way round ...

[Wiwi Jumbo]

Um.. I was under the impression that the reasion that site switched is that it went from being hosted by a Gov. department and is now hosted by a company that only uses MS.

The actual switch was from provider, the OS switching was just an effect of that.

Fur Hat Linux

[intermodal]

The problem with Fur Hat Linux is that it makes your CPU overheat when you use it in places where the local temperature above -20 degrees farenheit. However, this problem wasn't discovered until the Siberian hackers who developed it sent it to a more temperate part of Russia to put it into widespread government use...still, looking at the bright side, they are however looking forward to becoming the world's largest operating system provider in walk-in freezers everywhere.

Linux is a crummy OS for lamers like me.

[ImaLamer]

I took the bait!


1) Drop the CD in and type 'setup' and Windows installs itself, whereas you need a manual to tell you what should be installed for Linux.
So I've got this PC sitting here with no operating system or I just installed a new hard drive and I just drop in a cd and hit install? Like windows' comes on a CD that is bootable? Oh they finally got around to that with XP and 2000... gotcha

2) Hmm, all the best games and software are written for Windows, whereas Linux scrapes all of the leftovers and second class software from the people who don't get paid very well for their work.
*All* the best games are written for Windows? You are right. Linux doesn't have many big selling games available for it like Quake [I, II or III] The Sims, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Unreal Tournament, or anything else. Maybe this isn't anyone's fault except the game writers?

3) If you have a problem with your computer, you can always call the company who put it together for you, whereas with Linux you have to work your problem around the schedule of some pasty unshaven lout who is wired to explode after drinking one too many Red Bull energy drinks.
Always? After a year and a day most will tell you to go fuck yourself. You can't call M$ - most of the time they say call your builder. Have you ever dealt with anyone's tech support? Most companies either replace the part[s] or nothing. No one holds your hand - they sell you a book, yes there is books for Windoze. OH! If your hardware isn't supported yet it maybe supported one day under linux. Under windows, it either is or isn't. People at M$ don't just sit around writing drivers for fun, but the linux community does.

4) So what if Linux is cheaper? You get what you pay for, people. Why buy a used car and worry about getting the thing running (a problem with Linux) when you can buy a new car and not have to worry?
Unfortunatly you don't get anything with your cash when you buy windoze. Solitare, and other apps that you need to rush back to the store to upgrade... worth 99 bucks? And if your shit ain't supported in winbloze M$ will tell you to suck it and call the maker - which will tell you to suck it because they don't support windows X9000 or whatever.
Oh yeah, how many thousand of apps come with windows? How many CDs in the box? By far more software *comes* with Linux. I've always wondered... how much does the Norton [Symantec] stock price jump when a new version of windows is announced.

5) Does your computer crash when you install Windows on it? Maybe that's because you built the thing from the guts of obsolete machines. Also, if you want to buy your parts off of pricewatch.com, expect to get parts that don't work properly. Does this mean that Linux is better because it has a higher compatibility with different components? NO. It means that Windows has higher standards.
Windows is SUPPOSED to be the umbrella that all computer parts, and standards sit under! Higher standards - like memory leaks, daily 'defrags', no security, control over hardware makers? I once tried to install 98 on a machine of a friend that had recently lost all of his data because of 'registry' errors and the like. Pre-built system 2 months over warrantee. No recovery CD was supplied from the PC maker and his machine sat for months because 98 would not finish the installation. Now he bought XP, can't wait for that! PS: Pricewatch doesn't sell a fucking thing.

6) Windows users, on average, copulate far more than Linux users. Windows users also don't smell like cheddar cheese.
Bill Gates is laid daily by women of all races from around the globe! You could be as well if you bought Windows XP Professional and not Home Edition! Gimme' a break.

7) My mother knows how to use Windows. Does your mother know how to use Linux?
Leave my mother out of this! Actually she is a dual booter! RedHat on one drive [doesn't use] and Mandrake on the other. She got rid of Windows when she bought ME and it froze every hour or so. She would wake up... go to the PC and see that nice pretty blue-screen saver.

8) Nobody has -EVER- been able to hack my machine or install any virus simply because I turn off Active Scripting. You take scripting away, and suddenly my Windows machine is more secure than your bodged up Linux b0xen.
Mind sharing your IP address with us? How much did you get raped for your Anti-Virus software?

9) Programs written for Windows work in Windows, whereas you have to know the program inside and out to get the thing to compile in *nix.
Compile? That's so 20th century. Desktop users these days are apt-getting and rpm'n this and that.

10) Don't like the way something is running in Windows? Change it with the click of a button. Don't like the way something is running in Linux? Recompile the god damned kernel and pray the thing doesn't hex dump over your Sarah Michelle Gellar .jpgs.
I don't like how things stop running in windows frankly. How do I change that? You seem to be someone that when shown a DOS prompt you say WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

Sound about right to you? Well, I thought so.
By the way, 'No Money' sounds more appropriate than 'National Pride' as a reason for using Linux.
When you pay for basic software on thousands, maybe millions of PC's then you tend to be lighter in the wallet.

Sincerely,
Linuxisforlosers
Drugs are for losers! Remember that and stay off the crack.

Otherwise, thank you for the amusing post even if you are a fanboy.

I'm not a fanboy - your argument is just silly.

Re:Could a non-Fin(n)ish European please...

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm Finnish and a Linux-user. The fact that Linus is Finnish too, doesn't matter to me, or to any other Finnish Linux-user I know. Sure it's nice to have something that good come from Finland, but I think Linux is a world-wide OS, just originating from Finland.

National pride has nothing to do with the fact that Linux is superior to Windows in many ways. The only place where it could matter would be governmental policies, but Finnish government uses mostly MS products.

RedFlag... kills windows dead

[ImaLamer]

This is got to be one of the coolest distro's around.

I like the 'microwave oven' idea.

I know people have been hacking that sorta' thing for years, but this one isn't a hack.

At least the US isn't using Linux

[Hektor_Troy]

Because if you think those minor items (ignoring China for a second) are big - think about the US.

If you say stuff like "I think it would be cool, if someone hijacked Air Force One and crashed it into the White House", you'll probably end up in jail (couting the seconds right now). Saying something like: "Ahem . . . in this time of war against Osama bin Laden and the oppressive Taliban regime . . . we are thankful that our leader isn't the spoiled son of a powerful politician from a wealthy oil family who is supported by religious fundamentalists, operates through clandestine organizations, has no respect for the democratic electoral process, bombs innocents, and uses war to deny people their civil liberties" you'll probably end up being stoned to death by an angry mob, before the FBI/CIA/NSA/et al lines you up against the wall for execution.

And if you even dare speak out against the current "war against terrorism" - well, I think you know what will happen. And don't you dare look like an arabian!!!

Re:At least the US isn't using Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

Unfortunately you are correct. In America, only popular speech is protected. Anything that is against the flow of "normallcy" as dictated by government propaganda spouts (CNN/Fox-News) will get the author/speaker in hot water.

Hell in Germany, even Jews were free to say "Heil Hitler".

Re:At least the US isn't using Linux

[mamba-mamba]

Fuck the draft?

anyone...

Re:At least the US isn't using Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, much better to disguise yourself as an Apaloosa.

Du hast die heise lederhosen.

[Anonymous Coward]

n/t

Only news worthy for the funny pun-type headlines

[h00pla]

This piece of FUD only resulted in a contest to see which Microsoft-owned tech website (read: ZDNet) could come up with the best funny sounding title
Queen Banishes Linux
Royal throne flushes out Linux

For every server that switches back to Windows, there's gotta be at least 100 that switch over to Linux. Mr. Drake's article does a pretty decent job of pointing out why.

I mean Mr. *Krane*

[h00pla]

Whoops - Should have said Mr. Krane

them never heard of that much enthusiasm,

[Anonymous Coward]

that wasn't generated buy some phony pr talknicians.

on to the desktop.

Wellcome?

[antdude]

Heh, I just noticed their title has a typo (Wellcome). :)

Hmmmm....

[teaserX]

"What if the U.S. and China go to war?"

The only system still running would be powered by the UPS generators in Cheyenne Mountain. Unfortunatly It's a P90 running kernel 1.2 that got walled in by mistake. When they do find it there wont be any doubt about the world record for uptime.

The final words...

[nzhavok]

of the article:

"NSA feels it has a responsibility in that area," Haigh said. "They understand better than anybody in the world the deficiencies of operating systems."

but we knew that all along anyway ;-)

Waiting for Red Lantern?

[mattr]

Presumably this is due to 1) cost, 2) backdoors inserted by Microsoft, NSA, or other source.

I think #1 is main because of a friend who got school and goverment in a French town to convert to his linux based preinstalled machines, and also because of the Florida examples.

Here's some questions then..

1. What if Microsoft provides source code or even ability to make own builds to selected institutions/countries if they pay/sign enough paper? Is there a price point at which Microsoft becomes interesting again? In Japan some cell phones cost a penny up front. Paid $5 for mine, but have to pay $100 a month..

2. How do apt-getters and up2daters really know they are getting nsa-backdoor-free binaries (besides having a server in their country rebuild all the binaries automatically..) I.e. how to make best case for linux security over M$. Doubt full answer is "duh, MD5".

3. Same as #2 for general case where citizen of country A wants to download distros/binaries from scary country B. "Scary" could be redefined as "France or worse" (regarding government-funded economic espionage policy). Maybe we need to have local, private, secure, trusted cross compiler studios to create a positive force at purifying the net..

4. Perhaps library/binary from non-U.S. country X might be relatively unsafe due to CIA-inserted backdoors/virii? Figure for example that China *will* make lots of attempts at doing this themselves against their own citizens now that we all and the U.S. government are giving them all these great ideas. 'Course maybe they would then promote linux to the hilt and then one democracy virus would wipe out their "Red Lantern" infrastructure.. :)

5. (No, no need to flame) Are Microsoft ideas of subscriptions, or shared source, repugnant to government customers mainly because
a) they are morally bankrupt (i.e. crime against humanity)
b) would be a prior lien on a nation's prosperity (i.e. crime against your constituents)
c) your business and/or government could fail or worse if you made Microsoft an enemy by say falling in arrears
d) "information security"
e) "national security"
f) moot, we want MS (preinstalled base in our govt)
g) moot, we want MS (old established firm)
h) repugnant but only game in town
i) moot (who cares)
j) other (what?)

6. What is an effective way for private open source developers to make money on market constituted of all world governments' organs?
Obviously there is some kind of a barrier here regarding currency, local requirements, trust, obtaining contact information, every country being set up differently, etc.
I'm thinking 1) education software.. ideology agnostic (woops thats not really true). and 2) a best-practices database that would tell them what to buy. Oh, and 3) make something that saves money and sell to everyone including governments.

Re:Waiting for Red Lantern?

[Anonymous Coward]

3. Same as #2 for general case where citizen of country A wants to download distros/binaries from scary country B. "Scary" could be redefined as "France or worse" (regarding government-funded economic espionage policy).

I totally agree, if by "worse" you mean the US (see the annual budget of government-funded economic espionage agencies such as the NSA), UK, Oz and the other countries participating in Echelon, or Israel (it's scary to think that CheckPoint, the maker of Firewall-1, is one of the first employers of Mossad retired employees...).

Remember that physical security breach article?

[Omnihil]

Does anyone recall an article posted on Slashdot, about the following: A man speaks of how he walks into corporate structures to do white hat audits. - he walks off with important papers, - he pretends to talk on cellphone to get through passcode doors while others enter code, as security - he carries boxes around to have people open doors for him - he carries around a clipbook to seem like a utility guy - he wears hardhat, and an electritians type uniform - he tells us how he gets all the way to server rooms, etc.. I cannot find the article on slashdot. It seems all security articles from before a few months ago cannot be searched. Does anyone have the link? - Omnihil

US government is a large linux contributor

[Jeppe Salvesen]

Lots of US government agencies use Linux for various purposed. NASA uses it. NSA is developing their own hardened distrobution. Etc.

What's important is that we continue to provide them with a good Linux experience. Treat US government employees like royalty in newsgroups etc(when they ask about linux), and we just might increase our brainshare and marketshare.

Don't be so naive...

[Natestradamus]

Wouldn't it be so easy for M$ to line the pockets of those who sit on DoD and Intelligence oversight committees?
Not that your average politico knows jack about OS's in general, but that just makes it easier to go with the default.

-N

Offtopic....NSA Linux?

[JayFlatland]

From what I've read about it, isn't NSA's Linux more just a proof of concept of attaching hardware access to a user, and actually not a 'super elite security OS'? I see it's name tacked on to things like this and think that either I'm wrong or someone else is....

Linux not American?

[Anonymous Coward]

I thought most large Linux distributions are US-based: Red Hat, Slackware, Debian... Same goes for FreeBSD and NetBSD. (Not to mention all of the proprietary Unix scene and the myriad of other OSes around there, starting from Mac and embdedded systems...)

Maybe many developers come from other countries, but the source of distribution is in the US, and also many developers.

Re:Linux not American?

[10Ghz]

No, Linux is not american. You could say it is a finnish OS, since the inventor and the "Man in charge" is a finn. But then again, there are alot of kernel-hackers from other countries.

As for the distros. Sure there are american distros (is Debian american? I consider it to be more international). And there are non-american distros (SuSE, Mandrake, Best Linux etc).

I think the best way to describe Linux is to call in international OS. It has it's roots in Finland, but developement are done all over the world. The man in charge is a finn living is USA, the second in command (Alan Cox) is british. The maintainer of 2.4 kernel is from Brazil.

enter: here

[chemstar]

from the article:

Microsoft's Lipner said the company is now releasing "lockdown" tools to deal with the problem and is also no longer leaving "entry port" settings open by default on server software.

Open by default. I just can't understand the reasoning. Springtime? Everybody loves ftp?

Re:Someday EVERYONE will have a real operating sys

[ethereal]

Yawn. Either in cron or rc.local:

apt-get update; apt-get upgrade

Point it at your own local sources, of course, not the official Debian ones, so that you have control of the patch level of your machines.

I agree with the other poster - maybe someday Microsoft will be easier to remotely administer, but that day has not come yet.

You're ignoring BSD variants??

[MtViewGuy]

While everyone cheers the increased used of Linux by governments, I think you're all missed the fact that BSD variants of UNIX (OpenBSD/FreeBSD) have been heavily used by many governmental agencies long before Linux became the latest hip OS to have.

After all, BSD variants can handle very high volume transaction loads and has generally pretty good security, something that government agencies really want.

Windows not insecure huh?

[Anonymous Coward]

You Slashdot people always claim that Windows is not insecure and that Linux is very insecure.
Well, since governments have chosen to use Linux, I guess that blows up your theories, doesn't it.

Re:Windows not insecure huh?

[praedor]

Err...you mean windoze is not secure and linux is really secure (and *BSD is really REALLY secure - or the NSA linux is also really REALLY secure).

Insecure is what windoze is and always will be, simply because to make money, Gates and Co. insist on having their fingers directly in your database and information transfer, PARTICULARLY with their .Net nonsense.

Re:Windows not insecure huh?

[Anonymous Coward]

"Err...you mean windoze is not secure and linux is really secure (and *BSD is really REALLY secure - or the NSA linux is also really REALLY secure)."

Yes, I realize that.
But the Slashdot community whines about the opposite.

Moderators on crack

[Anonymous Coward]

How is this offtopic? The article cites the "security" of Linux. The poster correctly points out that Linux isn't so secure & suggests alternatives.

That post should be "+5 Insightful"

Governments use free software.

[Anonymous Coward]

DUH,

If Microsoft wasn't greasing the US government they would also be using what is "free". I remember my stint in the IT department of the city government offices (my home town) Microsoft gave us a "municipality discount" and basically gave us NT4.0 at a 2 for 1 price to switch from the SUN systems we had in place. You will see the rest of the world adopt free and open OS's and apps before the United states even get's a clue.

Govt A, "we can use Govt B's os that they wont give us the source code to, but the promise there aren't any backdoors or secret access programs in it. or we can use this BSD/Linux thingy."

Govt B, "Use this, We promise we wont spy on you with it. we wont even tell the SPA that you have it." (attempt at humor)

Govt A, "Ummmm.... yeah.... we'll think about that."

Don't celebrate too fast...

[--daz--]

My guess is that this doesn't have much (any) to do with the technical superiority (or inferiority) of Linux, and more with fears that there are NSA links inside Windows or other closed software. It's more like "well, this is our only choice". I know I'll get flamed for this, but search your feelings, you know it to'be true.

Nope, it's exactly the reversed

[Anonymous Coward]

Every day I see the Slashdotr community whing about how Linux is bad and how Microsoft and Windows are superior.
When governments proof that it isn't like that, Microsoft zealots get all upset about it.
"Linux bad blah blah, Microsoft good blah blah"

China

[Anonymous Coward]

" "They don't want to build an economy entirely on Western technology," Gong said. "To be a strong nation, they have to have intellectual property.""

i thought linux was a western technology... after all, they are just modifying the code...

Nope

[Anonymous Coward]

Kids use Windows and Sub7 to hack. And then they think they're real hackers and that they're cool just because they can click a few buttons in Sub7.

U.S. Trailing Badly in IT Advances/Freedoms

[Anonymous Coward]

SoftWar Gangsters Continue to Hold U.S. Hostage

That's write, we're recommending that curious george et al take immediate action to disempower the felonious gangsters whoare causing our nation to look whoreabull.

Why not appoint a group of "temporary guardians" of PCville/the 'net? Said bored could consist of such annoying figureheads as stallman, perens, torvalds, cronkite, raymond, etc..., even the commander could help. Go for IT george, do IT now. billygates is lying to you.

Proof of Backdoors?

[euphline]

While I don't really believe there are a bunch of US Govt backdoors in M$ products (there are enough generally known backdoors...), wouldn't it make sense for the US Government to support the use of Microsoft products, including internally, if there were backdoors?

Conspiracy theorists, where are you? I think that the perfect way to get backdoors into everyone's computers would be to allow an operating system (that you have backdoors into) to become prolific!

Re:Proof of Backdoors?

[Erris]

Better just to specify NSA "enhanced" linux.

As someone more clever than me pointed out, if you teach the compiler itself to make backdoors you can backdoor any system, even if the user recompiles the compiler.

Re:Proof of Backdoors?

[Anonymous Coward]

Couldn't someone notice this by looking at the source for the compiler? I think that there are enough people suspicious of the NSA to want to give it a good check before using it.

Re:Proof of Backdoors?

[Erris]

Couldn't someone notice this by looking at the source for the compiler?

No they could not as the instruction could be removed from the source without the compiler forgeting. The compiler can be instructed to copy parts of itself that are missing from the source. The only way to tell is to compile with a non corrupted version of the same compiler and get a different sized output.

Re:Proof of Backdoors?

[gorilla]

The classic paper on this is Ken Thompson's Reflections on trusting trust

OT:Re:Wellcome?

[fredrik70]

you think that's bad? ;-) ever heard about the Wellcome trust? Sponsors of the Human Genome Proj.
Worked there last year at wellcome, not HGP)
check them out at http://www.wellcome.ac.uk
noew *that's* a typo! *grin*
Mind you, got an explanation back then why it was spellt like it was - can't remmeber though

Re:OT:Re:Wellcome?

[Anonymous Coward]

I also remember my sudafeds were made by Glaxo Wellcome. Now they've merged with Smith Kline to become Glaxo Smith Kline. Seriously messed up spellings in the name. Dunno why it's "Wellcome." Maybe it's a European thing?

Re:OT:Re:Wellcome?

[fredrik70]

Maybe some old style spelling of the word. We probably never know! ;-)

I'm surprised language isn't a major issue.

[mobosplash]

I would have thought a big reason for China (or Chinese companies) to create their own version of Linux is to have better integration with the Chinese Language. While most OS's have chinese or japanese versions they are adapted from the english originals. It seems they could write an Window Manager or APIs that were better integrated with thier languages.

I'd be interested in the comments of people using Windows or MacOS with the Chinese language packages. Does it feel natural or like you are using something awkwardly grafted together?

Definition: An OS is software you can trust.

[Futurepower(tm)]

I am very pro-Microsoft. I am more pro-Microsoft than Bill Gates. In my opinion, correcting the problems below would be very healthy for Microsoft.

The registry is a single point of failure. If I install a program, and something goes wrong, the registry may become corrupted. There are many kinds of registry corruption that cannot be fixed for a practical price.

Microsoft operating systems cannot be trusted. Microsoft often builds attempts at making money and crushing competitors into its operating systems. For example, if I make a mistake in typing an address into the Internet Explorer address bar, I am connected instead to MSN.com, a commercial activity of Microsoft.

A recent service pack upgrade to Microsoft operating system software disabled a competitor's software (Apple's QuickTime). There was no notice. The fact that there was no notice means that users may spend time troubleshooting why QuickTime would not start.

Microsoft cannot be trusted to try to make a good operating system. The registry problems are, apparently, caused by trying to mix all programs together so that the mixture will act as copy protection. This is putting interest in making money before interest in trying to make a good operating system.

Microsoft Windows 95, 98, and ME contain deliberate limitations. They crash even when there is plenty of memory, because of deliberate limitations in operating sytem resources. This was done apparently because of the desire to sell everyone a better operating system later.


I estimate that this message could go on for 1,000 more pages. Just the very limited U.S. Justice Department complaints against Microsoft, in which Microsoft was found guilty of breaking the law, were more than 200 pages.

Part of the complete definition of an operating system is that it is software you can trust completely. By that definition, in my opinion it cannot be said that Microsoft has ever made an operating system.

push or pull?

[Erris]

I mean, I'm glad to see the rest of the world smartening up and kicking the MS habit, but unless the U.S. gives up it's vision of a global industry dominated by "their" companies (heh), I don't think they will push alternatives very hard.

From recent laws, outrageous patents and what not, it's more like when M$ is going to push "their" government to bully the world?

M$ delendo est.

Source Code and Security

[rlp]

Ken Thompson wrote a paper a few years back that demonstrates that source code alone is insufficient to gaurantee security. Suppose that you have source code for the OS and all the various utilities and applications. You inspect the source code, then compile it, and you now feel pretty secure - yes? No, because, what about the tools used to compile the code? What Thompson demonstrated was a compiler, that a) looks for and hacks the Unix login code to add a back door and b) recognises and similarly compromises compilers that it builds! Here's a link to a subsequent article Thompson wrote for the ACM revisiting the issue.

Re:Source Code and Security

[Anonymous Coward]

Kind of like Microsoft's ability to reverse compile any program built using any of their compilers.

Once clear ending

[Erris]

We anticipate your positive participation!

I've more often heard that about M$ "products" here at work. Nice to see how large orgainzations have constants, regardless of who's in charge and what they say they think. If only there were something there about "empowerment".

universal

[Erris]

The underlying belief structure of all science must be free speech, and all the usefull arts rise or fall based on that freedom.

As you noted, enemies of freedom are happy to use all the tools others develop to secure their power. They have the freedom to choose, those under them do not.

free speech and free speech.

[Erris]

2. How do apt-getters and up2daters really know they are getting nsa-backdoor-free binaries (besides having a server in their country rebuild all the binaries automatically..) I.e. how to make best case for linux security over M$. Doubt full answer is "duh, MD5".

While I can't speak for up2daters, I know that Debian Maintainers would scream if anyone tampered with a mirrored version of their work. It would be reported at www.debian.org and here before you could say "reinstall" from trusted source. DNS attacks are evil, but they will be reported.

The Royal Family (England)

[Anonymous Coward]

I understand that the Royal family moved to Windows though... ISP imposed policy :(

It's official.

[NRAdude]

All these other countries think they can jump on the band-wagon and claim Linux for their Personal and Public Security and act as though they are pioneers against Microsoft. Fat chance. These other countries think as though they are boycotting a part of USA that represents capitalism, ala Microsoft, and in fact they are inducting capitalism into their markets; pooch-screwing themselves in the ass. Unix and all things associated with it is relative to good ol' USA. Linus Torvalds didn't move to Russia or China to release his software; Russia and China are strictly communist and wouldn't allow him to do what he does best. Mr. Torvalds moved to USA because it is the last bastion of 100% freedom. Freedom ringing so loud that the government has grasped its own freedom to violate other people's freedom, allow Microsoft to produce dirty software, and the FBI is allowed to bypass the Constitution by confiscating everyone's guns; removing any chances of upholding freedom. What made Linus Torvalds move to USA and not China or Russisa? He knew the USA, no matter what state of its union, has potential for reform from any kind of corruption. He knew that in USA, all of its government is being watched tentatively by the eyes of freedom fighters that uphold the real checks and balance system. In the United States of America, you can uphold your freedom while China and Russia prance on our coat tails by claiming Linux as their own when they realy mean to corrupt it. What a bunch of clowns they are; we, the United States of America, is freedom and they are not.

What's next? Convict Linux? Red Storm Linux? RedHat Linux? What is up with all these shitty naming conventions for Linux distributors? I suggest we hoist a 100% GPL'ed Linux optimized for different uses while supporting the same uses all by itself, unlike other distributors, and call it either "FreeLinux", "NetLinux", or "openLinux". BSD has a good .plan on their distributions. Can anyone agree more?

and GPL in Chinese!

[kitsook]

http://www.redflag-linux.com/xiazai/gpl.html

I could have posted this....

[DoofusRufus]

....but I figured that when I saw it in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution business section 2-3 weeks ago, it had to be old news.
One never knows do one...?

will the real linus torvalds please stand up?

THe future

[Anonymous Coward]

Jon Honeyball predicts MS will switch from NTFS to a SQL'sh data repsository. This will ensure a captive market. IBM did this with VSAM files. Proprietary data storage is the greatest threat , and dis-inccentive to shift. nuf said/